1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: One of the biggest issues facing this country is the 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: prospect of World War three. That is going to be 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues that anyone running for office 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: is going to have to deal with. Remember the country said, 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty interesting if you go back 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: in history and you'll listen to the media, you'll listen 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: to Democrats. They said that it was going to be 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump that was going to get us into World 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: War three. Remember when they said Donald Trump shouldn't be 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: trusted with the nuclear codes. Remember when the Democrats actually 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: said that Donald Trump was going to be the reason 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the World War three started. Donald Trump didn't start World 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: War three. In fact, Donald Trump didn't even get us 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: close to War War three. He was the guy that 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: was making sure we stayed far away from Warren. How 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: was he doing it through piece through strength. He was 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: also willing to talk to anybody anywhere at any time, 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: basically including Kim Jong un. He was willing to go 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: meet with him. Why because he understood that if you 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: can humanize one another and talk to one another instead 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: of talking through the media, that there's a very good 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: chance that you can actually avert War War three. And 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: that's always a good thing. But the media wanted you 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: to know that Donald Trump was going to be the 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: reason why. That was part of the fear tech that 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: he's going to be the irrational, psychotic and crazy, that 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: guy that's going to get us into World War three. 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Never happened. Now, of course, they never said that about 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats, right, No, they would never say that about 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats. Joe Biden was never going to get us 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: into War three. You know, Joe Biden and all of 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: his war mongering friends right who loved to go to war, 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: all of his good buddies in Congress, they would never 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: accidentally get us into World War three. Nah, that would 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: never happen. And yet here we are on the verge 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: of World War The biggest issue for me, outside of 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: securing our border and our out of control spinning, is 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: the idea that we could get into a world war. 39 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people in Europe right now 40 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: that are ready to get back into war and things 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: are ratcheting up. We all know this is because of 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine, and the countries around Russian and Ukraine 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: are very concerned because this has already become a disaster 44 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: in so many different ways for them. Humanitarian crisis, refugee crisis, 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: people from those countries who live in Ukraine and are dying. 46 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: People from many countries around Hungry, are from Hungry and 47 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: other countries are going there to fight and defend their 48 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: family and their loved ones, and they're dying in these wars. 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: All of these different countries around Ukraine now are terrified 50 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: of the prospect of a full on world war. Who 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be worried about it, Joe Biden. Joe 52 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't seem to give a crap at all if 53 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: we get into World War three. In fact, he seems 54 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: to be in favor of it. He seems to be 55 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: in favor of ratcheting things up. He seems to be 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: in favor of moving things forward. He thinks that he 57 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: seems to be in favor of really going all in 58 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: on this one. Why one. I think it's a distraction 59 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: from his disaster of a foreign policy. I think that 60 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. I also think 61 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: he understands that there's a lot of special interest in 62 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people around him that are genuinely excited 63 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: about the financial benefits of getting us into a world war. 64 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: They like the idea in the prospect of getting us 65 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: into a world war. And if we're in a full 66 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: blown conflict between Russia, Ukraine and the EU's involved and 67 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: everybody else, and you get the allies involved, and you're 68 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: sending equipment and billions of dollars in aid, and we 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: go into this thing, it actually probably would help him, 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: not hurt him when it comes to his reelection. It 71 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: would probably make things better, not worse for his chances, 72 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: because then you're talking about, now is not the time 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: for us to have someone coming in like Donald Trump 74 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: or de Santists and changing our foreign policy. We're standing 75 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: united with all of our allies. You go through the list, right, 76 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: because even if it's a failure, they'll tell you it's 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: somehow a success. Now, there is another part of this conflict, 78 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: this war between Russian and Ukraine, that's not being talked about, 79 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: not being talked about at all, and that's the fact 80 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: that there are literally thousands per day that are dying. 81 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: There are thousands of people that have been dying on 82 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian side of things daily, and there's been thousands 83 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: have been dying on the Russian side. The humanitarian crisis 84 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: into the millions of people that have fled the country 85 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: of Ukraine because it's constant an er attack from Russia. 86 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: And there are people in Russia that are terrified by 87 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: what's also happening right now to some of their loved 88 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: ones who are in Ukraine. Remember, there's a lot of 89 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: ethnic Russians in Ukraine. There's a lot of Russian soldiers 90 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: apparently that we're not happy, and a lot of Russian 91 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: individuals that are not happy about what is happening in 92 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: this war. There's a lot of fatigue already, but when 93 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: you have all the money coming in and all the 94 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: people getting paid on this, it's not a bad thing 95 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: for them. Now, there's also another part of this war 96 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: that people don't understand. Former National Security Advisor Katie McFarland 97 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: talked about this with me at Sepak, and what was 98 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: talked about is the fact that when oil and gas 99 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: prices are high, Russia has the disposed income to keep 100 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: the war going. If you wanted to actually avert war, okay, 101 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: what you would do is you would make sure that 102 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you lowered oil and gas prices, because that would take 103 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: all discretion area spinning away from Russia, and then Russia 104 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: literally could not afford this war. You want to know 105 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: how Donald Trump averted War War three when he was president, 106 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: It was by keeping oil and gas prices low. Russia 107 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: couldn't afford to do what they're doing right now. No 108 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: chance in hell. Russia can't afford it now because the sanctions, 109 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: in a weird way, have actually backfired on the rest 110 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: of the world. As Russia's seen oil and gas prices 111 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: go up, they're making record prop it's right now, even 112 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: on the black market. The fact that America has shut 113 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: down our old exploration and our oil drilling has only 114 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: allowed for Vladimir Putin to do what he's doing now 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: that he would have never done under the leadership of 116 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, not for any other reason than Trump understood 117 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: the economics. Let me say that again, Trump understood the economics. 118 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: If the price of gas was low, the price of 119 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: oil was low, and you didn't have to worry about 120 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: them exporting near as much because you didn't need it 121 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: as badly into Russian oil and gas, you could control 122 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: Russia and not worry as much about them Going to 123 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: war or is expensive, especially when you don't have other 124 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: people funding it like you. Look at Ukraine right now, 125 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: they can't afford the war they're doing right now. 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You guys did an amazing seapack event there. 191 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: This was last year and it was actually delayed because 192 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: of the war that was breaking out between Russia Ukraine. 193 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: I just had Kat McFarland with me as you and 194 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I were talking during the break here, and she was 195 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: talking about this conflict and the concern of it exploding 196 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: into Wold War three. You have a Rand involved, Now 197 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: you have China involved, Now you have Europe involved, you 198 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: have America involved. You are neighboring Ukraine. You've also been 199 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: under Russian control in the history of your country communism. 200 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: You also have a unique relationship with Russia because you 201 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: guys are landlocked and when it comes the issue of 202 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: energy is important, and you guys are calling for peace. 203 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: Victor Orban Prime Minister, who have had the privilege of 204 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: spending some time with calling for peace, I want you 205 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: to talk about how important it is for people to 206 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: understand that this is affecting people's lives. It's a humanitarian 207 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: crisis issue. You guys, I don't even know the number 208 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: of the left. You give me the new update of 209 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: how many refugees have come across the border through hung 210 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: more than one million, and you're right there on the 211 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: border with Ukraine. You guys are calling for peace. Kind 212 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: of explain where you are now year later. Um, Look, 213 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: I think we in the Western world, we do share 214 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: the strategic goals. I mean, one of the strategic goal 215 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: is to have a suberin independent Ukraine, that's for sure. 216 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: And of course we do not want to live in 217 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: the shadow of the Russian threat, that's for sure. The 218 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: question is how to reach those goals, and the Hungarian mindset, 219 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: the Hungarian conservatives mindset, says that through immediate ceasefire and 220 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: peace negotiations, first of all, because we have to spare 221 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: human lives. Thousands are killed on a daily basis, and 222 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm happeople to understand that. I mean, this is happening. 223 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: You guys are dealing with us. It's on your boarder. 224 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Thousands are dying daily in their score. It's horrible, including 225 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: humanitarian including Hungarians. Because there is a quite large ethnic 226 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: Hungarian minority in Ukraine. And uh, those ethnic Hungarians Ukrainian 227 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: citizens are some of them or most of them. The 228 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: demand are enrolled to the Ukrainian Army and they are 229 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: fighting on the front against the against the Russian troops, 230 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: and they are dying on a daily basis as well, 231 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: so they are there are Hungarian casualties actually in the Ukraine. 232 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: So it affects Hungary not only from the perspective of 233 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: for example, energy security, but because of the Hungarian minority 234 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. So the Hungarian standpoint is that we do 235 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: have those mansion strategic goals for us, it's it's very 236 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: very important to have something between Hungary and between Russia, 237 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: and that should be a super in Ukraine, between between 238 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: my country and between a between Russia. But but very 239 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: do you have the differences with other countries. With the 240 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: European mainstream is how to reach those strategic goals. What 241 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: we feel investor in Europe is that the political environment, 242 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: the political atmosphere, promotes more military eight more military support. 243 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: It began a year ago, a whole fear ago, for 244 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: example in Germany with helmets to give helmets for Ukraines. 245 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: Now they are giving tanks and the next step will 246 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: be UH air force squads. Yeah, fighter jets. I mean 247 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: this is this is in one year, this has gone 248 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: from a military standpoint, the complete opposite of what you 249 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: and I talked about UM at the Presidential Palace UH 250 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: in Hungary almost a year ago to the day. And 251 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: that this is not going in the direction that you 252 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: guys knew it could go because you've living it, you're 253 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: experiencing it, the thousands are doing and that's got to 254 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: concern you. Now that maybe people are looking at the 255 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: other countries right around Ukraine. Yeah, UM, look the the 256 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: what I mentioned for us, it may have sound like 257 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the like the exclusive Hungarian interest that we are seeing 258 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: this promoting peace, promoting security, because that's the that's the 259 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: Hungary interest. And of course UH they are a nation 260 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: first country like UH, like America first was for Trump 261 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: for us. For Hungarians, Hungary comes first, that's for sure. 262 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: But our approach fits a think into the European interests 263 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: and to the interest of the Western world. I will 264 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: I will tell you why, because it seems that the 265 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: policies and politics carried on by the European mainstream, the 266 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: progressive mainstream, for example, sanctions on Russia. Uh did not 267 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: bring Russia into its knees, but but increase the energy 268 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: prices and deer here comes and that means he makes 269 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: more money. They make they make a lot more money, 270 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: and that means they can continue to fight. Yeah, the 271 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: way to stop this war is, Katie mcpromm said earlier, 272 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: and I agree with this, is to drive down energy 273 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: prices so they can't afford to fight this war. As 274 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: long as energy prices are high, they can afford and 275 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: have enough excess money left over to continue this on 276 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: sought in Ukraine. And that's what this administration doesn't seem 277 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: to understand. And the problem and the problem what you 278 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: should see that maybe from an American standpoint it's it's 279 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: too far, but Europe in general and Hungary central European 280 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: region is highly dependent on Russian energy. It's it's not 281 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: some kind of a love story with MESCO. As you mentioned, 282 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: Hungary suffered under the Communist thumb, under the Soviet Union's 283 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: oppression for more than forty years. So if there is 284 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: a country, and if there are a countryman, the Hungarian 285 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: conservatives who do know how it is to live under 286 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Russian oppression, that we Hungarians and Hungarian conservatives. I we 287 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: you know. So when it comes to Hungarian Russian relations, 288 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a love story. It's the very 289 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: it's the very fact. It's the reality that all of 290 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: the gas pipelines, all of the oil pipelines, most of them, 291 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: most of them are coming to Hungary from Russia. And 292 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: that is true for the region and in a very 293 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: high percentage true for the whole Europe. That the continent 294 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: is dependent on Russian gas and russianally and because of 295 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: the sanctions imposed on the energy products of Russia by 296 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the European Commission, by the European Union, those sanctions increased 297 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: energy prices. Which partent has more money or more has 298 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: war machine, That's yeah, that's secondly. Secondly, it increased inflation 299 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: all over Europe, and the high inflation caused a very 300 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: very sure economic recession. So what we do experience now 301 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: in Europe that we do have a vord in our neighborhood. 302 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: As I told you, Hungarians are dying. Hungary had accepted 303 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: more than one million I think it's already are on 304 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: one point five million Ukrainian refugees to Hungary. But we 305 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: do have the economic troubles, the account of high inflation, 306 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: economic recession all over Europe. And what we why why 307 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: we urge for a peace is of course to spare 308 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: human life. But what we also see that with this 309 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: war ongoing, with the prolonged word economic suffering will be 310 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: for the future, would be for the future as well, 311 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: and that is not good for Europe. And I tell 312 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: you another thing, an important thing, it's not good for 313 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: the US either, because first of all, I think the 314 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: US needs a very strong European allie. Europe had been 315 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: always been had they had always been the ally of 316 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: the US. But Americans, I think need a strong Europe 317 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and strong European conservatives as a partner, a beacon in Europe. 318 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: European economic recession is not the best partner for the US. 319 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: And secondly, with those sanctions and with this whole whole, 320 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: I think insane politics towards the world, or I would think, 321 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: I would say, emotion base politics towards Russia. It pushes 322 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: Musco into the hands of Beijing. And that's the worst 323 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: screenplay if they will team up together, that's the worst 324 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: screenplay for Europe and for the US as well. Well. 325 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about another aspect of what you guys are 326 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: also having to deal with right now in Hungary, and 327 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and explain to people how many miles from Budapest, your 328 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: capital is it to Ukraine, the border of Ukraine. How 329 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: exacted a drive there to two and a half the border, 330 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: okay two another three hours, So it's people need to 331 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: understand how close is. It's very close. It's very because 332 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: they can be to live through this in the nineties 333 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: when there was the vor in Yugoslavia also a neighboring country, 334 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: or Serbia, neighboring country of Hungary. And I'll tell you 335 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: it's not good to have a war at your backyard. 336 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: It's not good. It's very different to approach to such 337 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: a situation from Berlin, from Rome, from Paris, or from Washington, DC. 338 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: So it is saying this, but to live next to 339 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a war they're Hungarians are already affected. That brings you 340 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: to a much more pacifist standpoint and mindset. And I 341 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: tell you what what is very very interesting that those 342 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: European politicians, the liberal progressive mainstream which urges now for 343 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: more military, more military support and promotes a very aggressive 344 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: of military standpoint. Those are the progressives who had been 345 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: advocating for peace, love, happiness, make love not war. For decades. 346 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: They were the one who always promoted pacifism all along, 347 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: even under the Soviet Union, and when the Van the 348 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Communist ruled half of Europe, they were very very pacifist. 349 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: And the hippies and now the very same progressive liberal group, 350 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: liberal mindset now suddenly became very hawkish in Europe and 351 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: the up promoting literary solution let's talk about sepack hungry 352 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: coming up. Obviously, the entire tone of what you thought 353 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: you'd be talking about two years ago in your country 354 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: has changed. We saw that with a very what I 355 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: would refer to Stave of a Union address from from 356 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: from Victor Orban, which I watched because I wanted to 357 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: see what he had to say. Do you speak Hungarian? No, 358 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: But I was watching the subtitles. I was, I was. 359 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: I was very much watching it because I wanted to 360 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: see what he said. And he was obviously talking about 361 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: family first policies at country first policies. He was also 362 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: talking about peace and making it clear we need to 363 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: have this seems to end and does not need to escalate, 364 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: and we need to find a way to peace. And 365 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: I love the way that he was describing Hungry's role. 366 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: You guys at the center fundamental rights understand how important 367 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: families are in a strong family. It's part of the 368 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: reason why you brought Seapack to Hungary, the honor speaking 369 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: at the first Seapack Hungry and look forward to hopefully 370 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: going back to Hungary as well as well. Yeah, I'm 371 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: excited to be back in Hungary. And you guys this 372 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: year's theme a year later, we're still coming in under 373 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: the same theme, except it's a war that's escalated. What 374 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: does the goal for you guys for seatback Hungry this year? 375 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: What is what does a successful Seapack Hungry look like 376 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to the issues, Luke, I have a 377 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: dream and my dream is the liberals nightmare, the stung 378 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: international cooperation of national conservative forces. Last year's motive of 379 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: CEPEC Hungary was God, homeland and family. Now it will 380 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: be about united We stand that conservative forces all around 381 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the world, will around the Western civilization should joins four 382 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: forces and should act unite it. Why because of course 383 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: there is a there is this ongoing world which is 384 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: the most important geopolitical problem that we have nowadays. But 385 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: we should not forget about the Marxists, the socialists that 386 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: we do have in the West, and they are trying 387 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: to destroy our most cherished values, the Judeo Christian heritage, 388 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: if our civilization, the importance of the nation, national pride, 389 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: and state superianity. And of course they are trying to 390 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: destroy the family, and they are threatening children with this 391 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: gender nonsense. Think and what we think with spec Hungary 392 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: and what we you think in general in Hungary, the 393 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: Hungary and conservatives is that if you're brave enough, and 394 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: if you're wise enough, and if you do know the 395 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: political know how, and if you can act as professional 396 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: as the progressives, then you can defend your values. And 397 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: that's why we brought SEEPAC to Hungary first of all, 398 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: to show the Hungarian example to divert because for example, 399 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: our constitution defends the Christian values if our country. It 400 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: enshrines the importance of national identity and state superanity, and 401 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: it protects the family and the children's right to self 402 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: identity and against gender propaganda. But there are also other 403 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: very important things about Hungary are very generous family, very 404 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: generous family policies pertaining to taxation as well. So the 405 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: more children you have in Hungary, the less tax you 406 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: pay for the state, you're basically encouraging a nuclear family 407 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: through the issue of tax, where you don't analyze people 408 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: for having a family, you're encouraging it, which is incredible 409 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: and so basic. And the and the whole environment very important, 410 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: very important. Not it's not only about technical or legal changes, 411 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: but the environment is changing. Fertility rate is increasing in Hungary, 412 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: a number of marriages doubled in the past ten years, 413 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: and very very the most important fact that without any 414 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: kind of legal amendment to the respective laws, the number 415 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: of abortions halved in the past ten years. Because the 416 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: environment is changing, it's becoming a more and more pro family, work, 417 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: fair society and environment in Hungary. So that's that's very 418 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: important new about and of course laws, but not least 419 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: protecting the borders and fight against illegal migration is all 420 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: to an important issue for us from Hungary in Conservatives 421 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: v built death vole on the southern border off if Hungary, 422 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: and first of all, the Hungary would like to show 423 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the Hungarian example the especially when you're next door to Russia. 424 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: It's like, look at these two different worlds you can 425 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: live in. You can live in a world of family, 426 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: pride and independence and prosperity in small business and growth, 427 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: economic growth, or you can live under this communism and 428 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin and this basically you have no freedoms and 429 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: independence as a human being a family. That's where I 430 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: think Hungary right now is such a beacon of hope 431 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: in this part of the world, and you guys are 432 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: basically shotting a massive light on it at the Center 433 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: for Fundamental Rights and also having see pack Hungary, and 434 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: it was well attended the first year I got to 435 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: tell people for a first year conference flying over there, 436 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: I obviously didn't know what to expect. It was a 437 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: packed house. The people are hungry for freedom and they're 438 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: hungry for family and traditional values in Hungary, which is amazing. 439 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: And honestly there's a part of me that wish that 440 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: we had that same type of urgency in this country 441 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: because we take it for granted far too often. Yeah, 442 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much for your words. I do really 443 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: hope and that I really I will stay humble because 444 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Hungary is a small country with an open economy, landlock country, 445 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: So we do not dare to say that we will 446 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: be the largest superpower in the Western word. If it 447 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: comes to conservative issues. But I do really hope that 448 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: Hungary can serve as a hub, as a as a 449 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: powerhouse for conservatives all around the Western civilization, because Hungary 450 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: is the best example that you can bring conservative ideas 451 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: that we are always talking about to practice, to act. 452 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: And that's why Brussels and the progressive mainstream all around 453 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: the world. Here in the US, the New York Times 454 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: scene and is so frustrated about Hungary and about spec 455 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: hungering about about Prime Minister worb on On On and about 456 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the the Hungarian conservative movement because they see that we 457 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: can protect our faith, our religious freedoms, our judio Christian heritage, 458 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: our national pride, our borders, our superenity. We do have 459 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: our deep state in Europe as well. You have your 460 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: deep state here in DC. Our our deep state is 461 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: called Brussels, the European Union. And although we are a 462 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: proud member of EU and NATO, we do have our 463 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: daily struggle. So we are fighting that fight with that 464 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: with that deep state if ours, and it needs bravery, 465 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: it needs courage, it needs uh wisdom. And our our 466 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: planet is the Hungarian master planet, is to bring conservatives 467 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: all around the world on the board to act unite 468 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: because what we see is that the left is professionally 469 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: organized at the international level. That's how they can, in 470 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: the name of political correctness esg voke gender ideology, critical 471 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: race theory, you can name it. In the name of 472 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: their ideas, they can launch a massive planetary global attack 473 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: are against fundamental values. But if we team up as well, 474 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: although we do have our local roots and maybe we 475 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: do have our differences if it comes to I don't know, 476 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: taxation or social medicine, therese all technical issues compared to 477 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: the big issues the tree and value of God, homeland 478 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: and family that we should protect and seepack. Hungary is 479 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: a flagship project I think for that, and Hungary I 480 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: hope can serve with a very good example for conservatives 481 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: all over the how to how to fight this fight, 482 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: and of course the Hungarians. We also want to learn 483 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: from you, from American conservatives, from European conservatives, from quik conservatives, 484 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: from South America, from Israel, from Australia, from Japan, because 485 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: that is how they can build up and know how, 486 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: and that is how we can build a conservative consensus 487 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: instead of a neoliberal consensus. And that's how we can 488 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: build up the Superanity of the Right. It's going to 489 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: be a really fun conference this year for people that 490 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: want to find out more about the certain fundamental rights. 491 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: How can they get in touch? We do have a 492 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: website in English as well. If they type into your 493 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Google a Center of Fundamental Rise, they will find it. 494 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: And of course Seepeck Hungary has a website as well, 495 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: so they can find on our website as well. And 496 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: of course there is Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, maybe we do 497 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: not have Maybe that's all. That's enough. We're good. Hey, 498 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: thank you. I look forward to seeing you over in Hungary. 499 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: It'll be a pleasure to be with you again. Thanks 500 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: for coming over for seatback in the US and always 501 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: a pleasure to see you my friend. Thank you very much, 502 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Ben United to be Stunned. Want to remind you you 503 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: can download the Ben Ferguson podcasts and you can hear 504 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: that Katie mcfallan interview. We do our podcast six days 505 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: a week, so makes you download the Ben Ferguson podcasts 506 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: now