1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hi chick. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Hello. I don't even know I can even do an 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: intro right now. I'm a last are you guys? 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 3: You look tired? 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Good thing you can't smell me, you know what I mean. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: Don't judge a book by its cover. Here, It's just 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: been a crazy couple months, as we've talked about, with 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: work here in Nashville, and then we had CMA FOS 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: last week, and it's like, I never want to sit 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: on here and complain about any of the stuff that 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: I'm doing because it is really fun. I feel very 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: grateful to be so busy, and then you just hit 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: a point too where you're tired, so I just speak 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: about it. And that's where I am today. I'm just 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: a little bit of a zombie after a shoot I 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: had yesterday. So anyway, we are here and you're actually 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: leaving to go on the road again tonight. We've just 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: been kind of all over the place, both of us. 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: I feel mm hmm yeah. I'm heading out to Toronto 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: and then dipping down to the Bahamas. 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: Nice a couple of days off. We actually are not 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: going to be here next week. There is a new 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: episode on Wednesday. But I told you we would discuss 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: this and I. 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: Just decided, oh, look at that. 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a vacation next week. And we talk 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: about a lot on this podcast balance and we're really 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: trying to get better about that. There will be an 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: episode up that you guys will hear, but it'll be 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: one of my favorites, one of our favorites that we've 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: done before because we are going to be out of office. 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh baby. 33 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: But this week on the podcast, I had Emma Dunwoodie back. 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: She is a human design specialist and coach, and it's 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: old Chip about it and he's literally like, wait, what, 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: there's a whole nother thing because. 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 3: I have to google it, like what does that mean? 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Well? 39 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: And the hard thing about human design, I feel like 40 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: with astrology there's so much access to information about it 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: now that it's a little more common to have some 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: even semblance of understanding, whereas with human design, like I 43 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: look at my and this is as a person who 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: has known about human design and kind of worked with 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: it a little bit ish, I would say, and Ish 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: worked with it for a couple of years, and I'm 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: still like, what what does that mean? 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Like it's a foreign language? Truly. 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: We were going back and forth about what we were 50 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: going to talk about, and she said to me, oh, 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: my Wednesday podcast is about human design, and like that 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: was the context of it all. And I was like, what, 53 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: I've never even heard that term. I didn't know what 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: it was, and so I had to google it and 55 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: up comes this like crazy chart that looks like a 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: map of an airport. 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: You know, that's an interesting It kind of looks. 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: Like a weird weird terminals with all these like train 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: lines and stuff. And I mean, that's what it looks like. 60 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: It's it's your upper body, so it's from your sacral 61 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: to your what's the top one, the crown, Yeah, the crown, Yeah, yeah, 62 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: it maps all of that, and I mean I'm thoroughly confused. Yeah, 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: so I want to get into this conversation just to 64 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: sort of like get a baseline understanding of it. 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I could give that 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: to you. Go listen to Wednesday's podcastcast. But the other 67 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: thing about human design, I mean, I have an app too, 68 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: that's really helpful. Jenna Zoe is a great human design 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: special Yeah, so you can. You went and took the test, 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: I think, right, Yeah, And she is a great starting point. Also, 71 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: if you want to download her app, there's just breakdowns 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: and also it'll tell you timing, so it is similar 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: like astrology is tied into human design, so timing and 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: planet shifts and all of that plays into the different 75 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: readings that you'll get in the different breakdowns. It's just 76 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: a little more complex in the way that it works 77 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: with your body and the parts that you were just 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: talking about, like the different points. And that was actually 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: something Emma, Emma and I broke down on Wednesday because 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: we've done the general podcast about it, Like you told 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: me you took the test today and you're a projector 82 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm a generator. But there's so many more layers to it. 83 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the enneagram where it's like you 84 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: can go oh, and then someone's like, oh, what's your winging, 85 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: and you're it's all this whole new conversation. Then you know, 86 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: it's like we're not all just this one piece of it, 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: like I'm a generator. But she was talking about a 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: lot of things in my chart this last time that 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: she was like, Oh, I see where you're a little 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: different than what I would what people would assume a 91 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: generator would be like maybe you relate more to the 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: projector readings, and so there's just these different. 93 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Pieces to it. 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: It's way too much for me to try to explain 95 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: to you because I don't know enough about it, but 96 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: I do find it to be really helpful, just as 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: I say with astrology, to go have a reading, like 98 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: go have a reading with a human design specialist, and 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: they're they're everywhere. You definitely can find them on Instagram. 100 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: Emma is a really great one, Jenna Zoe is. These 101 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: are like the bigger people obviously, but they have like 102 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: local specialists here in Nashville. Even I'm doing another reading 103 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: with someone this week, in fact, because I want to 104 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: dive deeper into my human design and how it can 105 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: help me in work, because I think that's like a 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: really specific place which we're kind of going to a 107 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: little bit today too. I find this stuff so interesting 108 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: because it's so fascinating to me that we come to 109 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: this world and like we're almost taught that you're just 110 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: supposed to do the X, Y and zs and make 111 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: this life like you're supposed to meet the person you 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: want to marry, have kids, if you want, have this 113 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: nice house, build a career, whatever it is these are 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: like the checklists we're given, you know, and then you 115 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: start getting into some of this other stuff. And if 116 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: you go on any sort of spiritual journey and you're 117 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: doing any sort of like personality test aneograam astrology, human design, 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: gene keys is another one. Not to overwhelm you. Chip 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: these are all just different well they're just different modalities 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: that essentially can lead you to the same thing, but 121 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: whatever speaks to you. But there's all these different things 122 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: that tell us, if you start to work with these 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: kind of modalities, that our soul is genuinely here for 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: a specific reason, a specific journey. And so this generalized 125 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: journey that our culture pitches is kind of wild because 126 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: it's really not accurate at all, and it's so interesting 127 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: because it can send us into so much shame for 128 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: not being like everyone else, you know. And it's really 129 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: this beautiful experience when you start diving into all this 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: stuff to get to know your own unique soul journey 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: and your own unique path and your own unique understanding 132 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: of like why you're here. And I think those are 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: like the big gifts and why I'm so fascinated with 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: all of these different modalities and working with them. 135 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny too, because you just listed a bunch 136 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: of whys and I was thinking earlier when I was 137 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: reading about this stuff, something that I can see that's 138 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: very different between you and me is that you ask 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: the whys. And I don't know if that has if 140 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: it's like a personality trait, or if it's a male 141 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: female thing, or your soul is just craving it more 142 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: than mine is. Yeah, but I think that that's why 143 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff feels like just Greek and 144 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: gobbledygook to me, because I'm not good at the whys 145 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: very often, and because I just don't think I ask 146 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: myself that enough. I kind of, like, you know, without 147 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: sounding flippant about life, I feel like I sort of 148 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: just float through it and like my philosophy is always 149 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: kind of it is what it is and let's figure 150 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: out a way around it. Which is funny because when 151 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: I just read about what the projector says, it's a 152 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: projector is someone who can see better, more efficient and 153 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: upgraded approach to specific things. So like for me that 154 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: kind of makes sense because I'm like, it is what 155 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: it is, and I'm going to figure out my way 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: through it and like it be. Let it be what 157 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 3: it's going to be, and you know, I'm not always 158 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: going to be happy about outcomes, but like it also 159 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: is what it is. So if I can have that 160 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: appreciation and acknowledgment to you know, whatever situation, then ultimately 161 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: I come out on the other end happy, happier because 162 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm not like fighting it. But it's very rarely do 163 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: I ask the why. And I think that's why this 164 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: kind of stuff feels really funny to me. And I 165 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: wonder if that's part of the reason why I'm I 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: like even hesitate to dig deeper, maybe because I haven't 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: asked the wise, and then that becomes a scary thing 168 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 3: for me. You know, it's because you know, I also 169 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: like it's funny. We hear the phrase all the time, 170 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: like everything happens for a reason, and that feels a 171 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: little cheap, but it also is, you know, I think 172 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: it can help people find hope. But I also do 173 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: think it's like it's a little bit more specific than 174 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: it sounds, you know, because if our lives are charted 175 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: out in the way that a lot of people believe, 176 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: then everything is happening for a very specific reason. I 177 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: think the thing that I struggle with is like the 178 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: understanding of like it can't all just be faate because 179 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: there have to be ingredients that, like you, your soul 180 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: couldn't have anticipated, like what another soul was gonna do 181 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: and whatever, like you end up like life be life 182 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: in sometimes always and so you're like, I guess that 183 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: is how your soul would grow and morph is to 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: get hit with a curveball and have to like figure 185 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: something out. And if you're if you're aware of your 186 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: human design, then it would explain or help you sort 187 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: of map your way around that situation or that curveball 188 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: even thrown. So to me it does feel like gobbledygook 189 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: a little bit because it's also new, like someone I 190 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: rather the guy who came up with it, like heard 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: voices for seven days and then this is what came 192 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: out of it. 193 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: What they call it downloads and right, who knows, but 194 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: you know. 195 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: I do. I believe in plant medicine too, and I 196 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: do think that like it that can like really sort 197 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: of attach you to the world in a. 198 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Way that other higher consciousness. 199 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like really probably ask yourself the wise. Yeah, 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: this all seems crazy, but it's also it could explain 201 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: a lot, and so I'm appreciative that I now even 202 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: know that this exists because now I can dig in 203 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: a little bit. It's probably all way over my head, 204 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: but maybe it's time for me to get a reading 205 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: and have a pro tell me about it. 206 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you just touched on exactly 207 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: what I love doing about this podcast, because I do 208 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: like asking the whys, Like I'm very curious, which is 209 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: very much in my wiring, and the more I learn 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: about human design and astrology and all that, like, I 211 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: am literally here to do that. So it's one of 212 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: what I would call a gift now. But I think 213 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: you nailed it in the fact of, like, if you're 214 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: not thinking about the whys or whatever, it would be 215 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: really easy for you to sit here with me and 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm speaking in this language or whatever, for you to 217 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: maybe like shut down because you're a little overwhelmed with 218 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: the information and then go feel bad about that. 219 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: But the point exactly of this kind of work is 221 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: what you said when you've read about being a projector 222 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: because instead of feeling bad about not wanting to ask 223 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: the same questions as me or do it the same 224 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: way that I do what you could do now that 225 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: you're learning about being a projector is look at the 226 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: point of you wanting to go find the other solution 227 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: or whatever as the gift. So that's the gift that 228 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: you could bring to any situation that like I don't 229 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: bring that gift necessarily, you know, like I bring another gift. 230 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: I maybe want to sit in the depths with people 231 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: and ask the questions and you're like, hey, here's the 232 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: solution of how to go around this or whatever. And 233 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: so it's like we all have these different offerings and 234 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: that's the beauty in understanding it. It's not necessarily to 235 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: go to any shame places or whatever. Although all of 236 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: this stuff has shadow sides that I do find to 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: be really helpful when you're navigating different relationships, but even 238 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: in the bigger picture of why I want to dive 239 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: into this and you've kind of not done that yet, 240 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: Like there's no shame in it, like we were talking 241 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: about last time, it's just genuinely understanding that each of 242 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: us bring these different facets to the table and you 243 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: can't know that unless you like look at these things. 244 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: I guess you can know it instinctively, but like I 245 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: find it really helpful to have someone be like, oh, 246 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: you're really your soul lights up when you do this, 247 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: and then you're like, oh, that makes so much sense 248 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: because that's what you know, like what you just said. 249 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm reading like because I didn't know 250 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: what this I don't know what this chart means at all. 251 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: You know, I did it right before the call, and 252 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: it's like outlines a bunch of gifts exactly, and it's crazy. 253 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Is it spot on? 254 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: It's pretty spot on? 255 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? What numbers are you I'm. 256 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: Going to mine? Is a whole list? 257 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, there's usually like your most. 258 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: Important gift is a four to three forty three unique 259 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: opinions and insights. 260 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Well is that much true? 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's very true. 262 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 263 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: And then I've got a bunch of other gifts under 264 00:12:51,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: it in my other Like it's a whole list. 265 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: Emma and I talked about this a lot because part 266 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: of human design specifically, and like I told you guys, 267 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm having this reading later this week in Nashville. But 268 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: she specifically works with like finding your purpose in your 269 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: work life and things like that, and one of my 270 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: big soul callings and you can say this is because 271 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: I'm an old soul or I've had many different readings 272 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: of people telling me why. But like, if you believe 273 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: in the old soul piece of it, Like if you're 274 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: an old soul, usually you're on some of your later 275 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: lifetimes and so you have this desire to make an 276 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: impact like in this big way, and like I've always 277 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: had that and I can't explain that. And I think 278 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: it can take you, you know, to be too driven 279 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: in certain situations, but it also can be a really 280 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: good asset for wanting to build something that you know 281 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: helps people or I'm not saying it exactly right, but 282 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: like to leave your legacy kind of behind and make 283 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: an impact of some And so when Emma and I 284 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: were talking, we very much dove into like purpose and 285 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: how to use your human design to kind of figure 286 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: out what your soul came here to do ultimately. And 287 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: purpose is not always tied to work. Actually a lot 288 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: of times they say purpose in your work life are 289 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: very separate, but we kind of label it that way. 290 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: And your purpose is more of who you are at 291 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: your core, what you want to bring to everyone in 292 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: your life. I'm relating it to work in this situation 293 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: because that's the journey I'm on right now. But anyway, 294 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: it made me ask you about just purpose in general, like, 295 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: because there is, you know, such a big feeling. I 296 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: think at my age, I'm forty almost forty three, so 297 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: consider it midlife. You know when people have the mid 298 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: life crisis. I think this is why you start to 299 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: really realize, Okay, I'm on the second half of my 300 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: life now, like I am in the later stages of it, 301 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: and what am I doing? Like I'm spending all this 302 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: time at work? And like, is it really the thing 303 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: I want to leave behind? The legacy I want to 304 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: leave behind? So you really want to attach to the 305 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: purpose of your life? I think at this stage it 306 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: starts to happen. So I don't know if that's why 307 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm asking it or if it's something in the astrology 308 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: right now? Do you think that human design is a 309 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: really big modality for that? And I wanted to ask 310 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: you if you thought, as a society, like, do we 311 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: put too much pressure on purpose or do you believe 312 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: that we're all here for a specific reason to go 313 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: on some specific soul journey in each lifetime? 314 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I definitely feel like we are sold 315 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: the idea of finding your purpose. But when I started 316 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: doing a little research about it, because it's not something 317 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: I sit with a lot and think about, like what 318 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: is my purpose? 319 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Which is well because I wake up every day and 320 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm like why am I here? Like this is so 321 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: interesting yet. 322 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: And I mean because to me, it is what it is. 323 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: But I also too, like, you know, I do think 324 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: about legacy and I would love to leave a legacy behind. 325 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: And often I'm reminded by things that I did for 326 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: people that helped them out and it created a job 327 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: path for them or like, and it was like for me, 328 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: it was like a little thing and I don't even 329 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: remember doing it half the time. And then people will 330 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: like reach out and be like I owe you such 331 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: a thank you, like yeah, I'm here because of you 332 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: did this. And so I mean maybe I'm not supposed 333 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: to know my purpose. I'm just supposed to be and 334 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: like do these things. And but I you know, started 335 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: researching today like what is the purpose of finding your purpose? 336 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: And I feel like I feel like this list of 337 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: things is really important because my idea of finding my 338 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: purpose felt like it was something so specific that I 339 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: need to have like this aha moment where I'm like, 340 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: oh my God, my purpose is to make sure that 341 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: like every child on the continent of Africa is fed, 342 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: you know, like I feel like that's what we are taught. 343 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: Is like finding your purpose, or to rescue every stray 344 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: animal in all of Guatemala. I think people do land 345 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: on very specific things like that, and those are the 346 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: ones that tend to get like publicity and we hear 347 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: about them and then you feel the shame, like well, fuck, 348 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: what's my purpose? Yeah, But so this list I think 349 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: clarified it a little bit. So basically, finding your purpose 350 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: is the goal of finding a purpose is to give 351 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: your life direction and meaning and some sense of like cohesion. 352 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: So more specifically, clarity is one of the things that 353 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: you want. Once you know your purpose, it gives you 354 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 3: some clarity. It helps you to prioritize your time and 355 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: energy and the things that you're choosing to do. And 356 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 3: once you know what matters most to you, decisions become easier, 357 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: so you're more clear when making decisions. Purpose a clear 358 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: purpose also gives you motivation because it can sustain you, 359 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: like when you are up against a wall or have 360 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: a setback or something, because you're more likely to fight 361 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: for something that you feel like is really meaningful, so 362 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: it gives you motivation, It brings you connection. So purpose 363 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: will like link you to something bigger than yourself, whether 364 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: it's like your community, art, your spirituality, your legacy, acts 365 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: of service, those sorts of things, and then it brings 366 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: you fulfillment. So you know, happiness can be really fleeting 367 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: because it's moment by moment, but when you have purpose, 368 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: finding your purpose and acting toward it brings you like 369 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: a much more deep satisfaction, I guess is the way 370 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: to phrase it. And then the last one is resilience, 371 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: which is funny because this one also says in difficult times, 372 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: having a why can help you endure the how. 373 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: So well, you know what, I think that is true 374 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: and that's been true for me. The reason I got 375 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: into any of this stuff, and I talk about this, 376 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: I talked about it along a couple podcasts ago with 377 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: doctor Lisa Miller. But the catalyst for my entire spiritual journey, 378 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: I mean, granted, I grew up a very like a 379 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: Christian household. Spirituality in that way and via religion was 380 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: always a part of my life and there was a 381 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: big connection. And then as I got older, I didn't 382 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: resonate with that as much. But I hit some big 383 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what do you even call those. I 384 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: went through some things that I deemed really hard are 385 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: they were really hard, but I deemed really bad at 386 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: the time, and it just sent me on this journey though, 387 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: because there was like it didn't there the rhyme or 388 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: reason of things didn't make sense to me. And so 389 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I was like, wait, everything 390 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: I knew back in you know, my Christian days taught 391 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: me this. And then there was other things I had done, 392 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: spiritual things that I had done learning wise, and I 393 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: was like, this can't just be. There's a bigger thing 394 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: happening here, and I wanted to uncover that. And so 395 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: it's really I still take a lot of those principles 396 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 2: with me, Like I don't think you ever lose those things. 397 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: It's just expanded. And so these kind of things are 398 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: ways that I find to connect to the journey or 399 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: the whys of why things happen, and not to feel 400 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: so much like a victim of it, to feel more 401 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: empowered by it in a way. Even the painful things, 402 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: as hard as they are, it helps me process through them. 403 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: And yeah, kind of get to the other side versus 404 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: really stay stuck in it for the rest of your life. 405 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you brought up the Christianity part of 406 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: it or of your life, and it made me think, 407 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: Like I feel like in the church, it's often that 408 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: you're told your purpose is to serve the Lord, and 409 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: for some people that might actually be the truth. But 410 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: I feel like if we are all part of God, 411 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: which is also something that you know is believed in 412 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: the Christian faith, then our purpose should be to find 413 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: our purpose and so serve the Lord. And I think, 414 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: you know, Christianity is it's the largest religion in the 415 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 3: world and certainly in the US, and I think that 416 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: people the shame probably comes from. There's the indoctrination of 417 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: believing that your sole purpose on earth is to serve 418 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: the Lord. 419 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: And you know what it is, It's that same thing 420 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: we talked about at the beginning of the podcast. What 421 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: you're describing. It's that all of our lives should look 422 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: exactly the same. And I think that's what's a little 423 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: false in that teaching. I see why it it was 424 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: the human interpretation of what the Bible said, But I 425 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: think it's the same thing I was saying where if 426 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: you believe that one statement, it's hard to feel like 427 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: your interpretation of what that looks like, or your version 428 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: of how you express that gift or whatever is accepted. 429 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's a little bit what people struggle 430 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: with with religion is it is so rigid in some 431 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: of these things and it doesn't allow for us all 432 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: to bring our own unique gifts and our own unique 433 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: versions to the table, which is really what I believe 434 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: would help out one. 435 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it has been morphed into 436 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: that because it's also about control, you know. Yeah, I 437 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 3: mean it is a business, and it's. 438 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: Human interpretation, and humans are of fallacy. Like it's just 439 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: it's to me not probably what the intention was, and 440 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: it's you know, in some places got a little off course, 441 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that's true for all. But right now 442 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: that's where I say, like, take what you like and 443 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: leave the rest, you know, Like that is a true 444 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: statement for how I live my life, because there's a 445 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: lot that I still pull from the Bible and the 446 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: things that I learned growing up, the principles to live by, 447 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: But I don't go to church every Sunday. It's not 448 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: what really resonates with my soul. At this point, there's 449 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: pieces of it I will never there's like integrated into 450 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 2: my life, I think, and it's just expanded. And the 451 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: more I've gone out in the world too, I'm like, well, 452 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: I can pull a lot from like Buddhism and other 453 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: religions as well. 454 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Like I love a lot of. 455 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: The Buddhist teachings because there's so much about not attaching 456 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 2: to the things that we attached to in this world. 457 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: Like that genuinely helps me the most. Probably now, those 458 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of mentalities. And I speak about a lot of 459 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: the Buddhist principles here, I wouldn't consider myself Buddhist by 460 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: any means. 461 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: You know. 462 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: I pull a lot from twelve step. I pull a 463 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: lot from astrology. Like to me, it's a more holistic. 464 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people get frustrated and people 465 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: say spiritual not religious, but that is what it is. 466 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: It's just that there is some sort of higher power 467 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: that I feel very connected to, that I feel is 468 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: within me. And if you want to call that God, okay, 469 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: if you want to call it the tree next to us, okay, 470 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: like I doesn't or whatever it is exactly, It's just 471 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: something bigger than me at play here, and that can 472 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: be your own soul too. You know, your own souls 473 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: came down here with a purpose so well. 474 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: And I mean, and if that is true, and it's 475 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: all integrated under one God, then the bigger thing is 476 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: really we. You know, it's all of us. Because the 477 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: energy that you know, one person is putting out in 478 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: the world, it has to go somewhere and and it 479 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: either bumps into your energy and ricochets off of it, 480 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: or it's absorbed in some way, or a combination of 481 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: the two. But energy never stops moving, no, So you know, 482 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: I think, like to believe in a religious god or 483 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: a spiritual god, it's kind of the same things. And 484 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: that's what you were saying, Like call it what you want, 485 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: but it really is. It's just like this like energy, 486 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: life force that we're just one very small ingredient of. 487 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, if you 488 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: look at any religion or any sort of dealing modality, 489 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: the concept of we is very important. It's like learning 490 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: about yourself to know what you can bring to the 491 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: collective consciousness, like even if that isn't on a public 492 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: platform scale. Like that's another thing I've been thinking about too. 493 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: It's like what we do in our small setting, in 494 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: our small communities, in our day to day life. And 495 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: I think we've seen so much divisiveness over the last 496 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: couple of years that it's really easy to kind of 497 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: see that how we've lost the concept of we You're 498 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: never going to agree with everyone, but if you show 499 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: up and do your part for the collective or for 500 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: the group or whatever, what happens then Because like we 501 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: said earlier, I bring a totally different skill set than 502 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: you bring, but like I really benefit from your skill 503 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: set often, you know, and I would hope the same 504 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: is true for you. And so it's like it's just 505 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: how do we give to each other with our own 506 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: unique gifts? But first you have to understand your own 507 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: unique gifts. I think that's kind of the point to 508 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: me of like human design to circ right, what we're 509 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: even talking about? 510 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: What are we even talking about? 511 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Hey, let's dissect religion. 512 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean for those of you who are listening 513 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: that haven't ever heard of human design, like myself, like 514 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: I will tell you, you'll look at this map and 515 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: you'll be like, what the fuck is this? 516 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: This is why you need a guide? 517 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: But I do think that once you or any of 518 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: us are able to make an understanding of it, then 519 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: I do think it like will help reduce any sort 520 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: of shame or yeah or whatever feelings you feel for 521 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 3: being at all different than even your best friends, because 522 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: that's kind of what's beautiful about being humans is we're 523 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: all so much alike in so many ways, but we're 524 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 3: so we're like snowflakes. 525 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: You know, yes, every single one is different. You know 526 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: what's interesting, I'm wondering if our culture is going to 527 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: shift to that mentality that you just describe, because have 528 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: you noticed even in like the beauty conversation. I don't 529 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: know if this is different with girls versus boys, but 530 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: everyone's kind of starting to talk about, you know, all 531 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: the shit we've all been pumping into our faces for 532 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: however many years, and the fact that so many people 533 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: are starting to look exactly alike. I think that's like 534 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: a bit of what people call the Kardashian effect. Whether 535 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: that's truly what it was or not, but it is true, 536 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: like we've almost brainwashed ourselves into looking at beauty in 537 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: this one construct. And so if you have the perfect 538 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: nose and the perfect jawline and no forehead wrinkles, then 539 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: you're beautiful or you know, big boobs and a big 540 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: butt or whatever. And now everyone's like, oh, but maybe 541 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: we don't want a big butt anymore, and so that 542 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: surgery is being reversed. And it's just anyway. All of 543 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: it to say is like social media almost creates, like 544 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: even these filters that look a certain way, because we've 545 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 2: trained our brains to think that that is beautiful. And 546 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: back when I was younger, I just remember being unique 547 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: was actually what was beautiful, Like having a different look 548 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: about you. Yeah, that was, And I think in other 549 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: countries that is still the case often. Maybe that's a generalization, 550 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: but I hope that we move towards that again and 551 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: beauty and really appreciate different body types and different face 552 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: shapes and different nose shapes and imperfections as this cool, unique, 553 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: you know, beauty thing. Like I remember having a friend 554 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: grown up with a gap in her teeth, and I 555 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: thought it was so cool and beautiful and unique. Now 556 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 2: everyone would get that fixed with veneers, you know, Like 557 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: I have a hump on my nose. How many times 558 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: have I thought about having a nose job because of that? 559 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: And I'm like, really, really, trying. I mean, maybe one 560 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: day I will. I'm not going to promise you guys anything, 561 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: but like, but I just like I really tried to 562 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: like embrace that as this is different about me. 563 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: This is unique. 564 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I can still be pretty with 565 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: it or whatever, but it's the way we talk to ourselves. 566 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: So I wonder that about humans in general moving forward, 567 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: if we're getting sick of everyone being the same a 568 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: little bit, and I hope that we really start to 569 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: attach to everyone's unique beauty and everyone's unique insides. They're 570 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: like what they can bring to the table, they're unique gifts. 571 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, have you noticed that at all? Or 572 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: is that just me? 573 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know what's funny is when I think back 574 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: to like what supermodels looked like when we were. 575 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Younger, they were all so different, all. 576 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: So different, and it was truly like what made them 577 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: weird was what made them beautiful. And now and I think, 578 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: you know, and maybe this is the Kardashian effect, maybe 579 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: it is just social media in general. 580 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: You know, the. 581 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: Algorithm, like if they think if you look at one 582 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: person that's like looks a certain way with beautiful hair, 583 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: like beautiful skin and blonde hair, and you like it. 584 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: The computer things. You like this person that looks like this, 585 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: So I'm going to show you other people look like this, 586 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: and the next thing, you know, your whole world is 587 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: the algorithm's just feeding you people that look the same, 588 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: and that becomes what you are accustomed to or like 589 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: better or whatever, and then you start to morph into that. 590 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: So I feel like it is a technological thing that's 591 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: happening too. Yeah, that's beyond our control and we don't 592 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: even realize it's happening. And then those people like are influencers, 593 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: so it's like they're driving the algorithm more and I 594 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: don't know. It's a really interesting thing because when I like, 595 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: occasionally someone will pop in pop culture now that is 596 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: incredibly awkward looking, but also really like Benedict Cumberbatch. It's 597 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: like he's arguably one of the most interesting handsome men, 598 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: but he's not stereotypical in any way. But I feel 599 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: like it's much more rare now than it used to be. 600 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, So that's what I'm hoping the shift comes. 601 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, everything cycles back. 602 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: I think it will. I think it will. I think 603 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna get tired of the same old Samuel. 604 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're talking about that's talking about the outsides, 605 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: but I do think it's connected to the insides, and 606 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: in a weird way, connected to the reason why we're 607 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: even talking about purpose and the importance of kind of 608 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: understanding what yours is and your own just unique gifts. 609 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep using that term, but like, that 610 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: is what these modalities bring you. And I think the 611 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: more we all dive into getting to know ourselves on 612 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: those levels, the more interested will become in people being 613 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: different and what they can bring to the table versus 614 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: like going Okay, well X Y and Z means you're 615 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: successful or you'll be successful, or if you do X, 616 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: Y and Z, that means you have a you figured 617 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: it out in life and you're you know how to 618 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: adult more than the rest of us. Like, I don't 619 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: think that we're designed for that. I really don't. I 620 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: think that's just some weird, made up thing we've done 621 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: in this society. But I think the more that we 622 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: individually kind of rebel against that and get to know 623 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: ourselves on these levels, the quicker we'll get out of 624 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: that thinking and it changes. 625 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 626 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: So anyway, if you guys want to go check out 627 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: human Design. Emma is a great avenue for that because 628 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: she has our own podcast as well, and she's been 629 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: on the podcast twice. 630 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: So if you did. 631 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: Listen to Wednesday and you're kind of like Hunt, go 632 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: back and listen to the first one I did with Emma, 633 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: because she does the very foundational parts of human design 634 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: and the stuff that when you pull up your chart 635 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: you'll immediately see like the projector generator, manifesting, generator, those 636 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: pieces that we kind of touched on, and then this 637 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: last one on Wednesday, we really broke down some stuff 638 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: that I didn't understand about defyings or undefined centers and 639 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: how that can change everything in a person's chart, which 640 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: really helped me put some things together for myself. So 641 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: if you know a little bit more about human design, 642 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: that might be a really interesting one for you. Also, 643 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: go check out her podcast because if you're like Chip 644 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: and you're like what is the ship that she's really 645 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: really good and she's very foundational, and she's Australian, so 646 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: like her voice is just pleasant to listen to. 647 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: For me, I love her accent. 648 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, definitely go check that out and if 649 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: you do a reading or you're diving into this, or 650 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: you have any questions, you can always hit us up. 651 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: You can email us at the Edge at velvet edge 652 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: dot com. I am also on Instagram at Velvet's Edge Chip. 653 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm at Chip Doors. It's Chip d r sch. 654 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: And as you guys go into the weekend and you're 655 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: living on the edge, I hope you always remember too. 656 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: A casual Oh that was so song like today. 657 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you really are giving them a little extra 658 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: this week. 659 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: Okay my purpose today. 660 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: All right, you guys, bye bye 661 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.