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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. We welcome you in to a Thursday edition

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Speaker 1: of Cleveland Brown's Daily. I'm Jason Gibbs. That's right. When

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Speaker 1: the boys are away, the men will play. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're taking care of it, Poisell. I'm working

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Speaker 1: on your levels here. I'm running my own board. We're hosting,

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Speaker 1: we're doing all kinds of shenanigans. How about now here

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Speaker 1: we go. So you're saying there's a chance, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're doing all right. All right. We welcome you into

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Speaker 1: a Thursday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. I'm Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: He is the esteemed staff writer for your Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Poise out. We are with you for our one

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Speaker 1: and then coming up in our two, You're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from a few luminaries. Nathan Ziggura is exclusive one on

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Speaker 1: one with New Brown Safety one Thornhill. Also, Nathan sit

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Speaker 1: down with the Great Charles Davis from CBS Sports and

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Speaker 1: we get through this offseason and we continue. We're a

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Speaker 1: building poise out less than thirty days. Man, does that

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Speaker 1: This will be the first chance to our second chance

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Speaker 1: going into the Hall of Fame. Now we got to

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Speaker 1: Aikins too. I think because in Joker did go down

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Speaker 1: for a few games last year and there wasn't a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of production that came came from Harrison Bryan.

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Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, I liked it. I like they consent

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Speaker 1: a lout. I think that has to potentially be sort

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Speaker 1: of a I don't want to call it an under

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Speaker 1: the radar signing, but something that you look back on

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Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, we didn't It didn't seem like it

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Speaker 1: was a big of a deal at the time, But

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Speaker 1: you know, if vegans has another five touchdown year. That's great, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would have slotted him very highly on our list

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Speaker 1: of last year for us. So well, we'll get into

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Speaker 1: more on the free agency front and get poise Hell's

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Speaker 1: favorite signings best a guy that can make the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact of the quickest. We'll get to that here in

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Want to wish everybody a happy

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Speaker 1: MLB Opening Day and wish our friends at the Guardians

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Speaker 1: all the best here in twenty twenty three opening on

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Speaker 1: the West Coast ten ten first pitch. Not ideal for

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Speaker 1: my sleep schedule, which is already a mess this week.

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Speaker 1: Shane Bieber taking them ound for the Guardians. Wish them

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Speaker 1: all the best of luck. I'd love to see the

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Speaker 1: MLB season start like in mid April. Yeah, I mean,

448
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Speaker 1: I think Opening Day should be a national holiday. That's

449
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Speaker 1: just me and I know it's never half the teams

450
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Speaker 1: don't open at home though, well yeah, but it's still

451
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not open at home, you're still

452
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Speaker 1: putting them on the TV. Like, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: just win its day. It feels like the start of spring.

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Speaker 1: It feels like maybe not like a national hide in

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Speaker 1: a sense that like people don't have to go to

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Speaker 1: work or anything like that, but like, let's make it

457
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Speaker 1: like a nice relaxed day. People want to watch their baseball,

458
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Speaker 1: people want to watch people, you know here, people want

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Speaker 1: to watch their Guardians because it's a young, talented team

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Speaker 1: and they got a chance to make a noise. Well,

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Speaker 1: I I was thinking about this. I'm like, why couldn't

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Speaker 1: this game be at four o'clock today, like one o'clock

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Speaker 1: Seattle time, Like, you know, why don't they played during

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Speaker 1: the day. Why are they waiting till seven o'clock at

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Speaker 1: night to open their season? It's a great question. And

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Speaker 1: I was looking at the schedule too, I'm like, are

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Speaker 1: there any other East Coast teams that are on the

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Speaker 1: West Coast for Opening Day? It just feels not fair

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Speaker 1: for I mean, I know, it's it's one out of

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Speaker 1: one sixty two. There's a lot at the Yankees that's

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Speaker 1: going on actually right now. Yeah, but that's that's a

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Speaker 1: West Coast team coming to the East Coast. It's I mean, gosh,

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Speaker 1: like watching Opening Day at ten am probably isn't a

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Speaker 1: bad deal right now. I mean, and the West Coast

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Speaker 1: teams that are playing are playing the other West Coast teams, Rockies, Padres,

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Speaker 1: Angels have exactly Diamondbacks, Dodgers. Yeah, and that's how I think,

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Speaker 1: that's how it should be. Like make the Mountain time,

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Speaker 1: make the Central time. Teams do be a little solid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ten ten you make forcing people on the East coast

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Speaker 1: to say at ten ten to watch their team. Is

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Speaker 1: it's a little harsh, a little harsh, boy? Is it?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well, let's get our first time out in.

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Speaker 1: Nick Polis is back in the studios. He'll join us

484
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Speaker 1: coming up at the well closer to one forty as

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Speaker 1: we play a little fact or fiction more on free agency,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get Poisel's thoughts on the NFL owner meetings,

487
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Speaker 1: because well, he was in Arizona. He was living his

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Speaker 1: best life. Get yeah, make sure kind of looked that way.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're back with more of Cleveland Brown's Daily,

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Speaker 1: You're listening to eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Ballely Bet coming soon to Ohio

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Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Baallely bet coming into Ohio. Jason Gibbs,

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Speaker 1: Brown's staff writer Anthony Poisel in the hot seat till

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Speaker 1: two o'clock today. Coming up at two o'clock, we got

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Speaker 1: some interviews that we've been wanting to play for you

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Speaker 1: for a little bit. Today is a perfect day to

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Speaker 1: do that. With mister Bishop and mister Ziggura on assignments.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear from One Thornhill. At two o'clock you'll hear

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Speaker 1: from Charles Davis said about two twenty from CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: and NFL Network. We just talked a little bit about

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Speaker 1: Poisel free agent, see and everything going on and the

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Speaker 1: Browns making some moves the Browns earlier. Today's signing guard

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Speaker 1: West Martin. We've it was rumored for the last four days,

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Speaker 1: but basically everybody had to get back from the owner's

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Speaker 1: meetings to get all of that done and put to bed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I want to know the signing you are most excited about,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I think I'm out of the guys

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Speaker 1: that have gotten so far. Again, it's been ten a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of options, but the signing I

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Speaker 1: think I'm really most excited about. And I kind of

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Speaker 1: hinds that before, but I'm really high on Nobo Cronquo

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Speaker 1: and um, I know it's easy to say a lot

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Speaker 1: more here. I think he's going to be a big

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Speaker 1: addition too. But I really think Obo is going to

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Speaker 1: be a guy who can you know, has big, big

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Speaker 1: breakout year potential here. You know, you just look at

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Speaker 1: what he was able to do last year when he

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Speaker 1: finally started games. The big thing for him is going

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Speaker 1: to be staying healthy first off, But when he was

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Speaker 1: finally able to start games and get more snaps, and

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a wrecking ball. He was right

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Speaker 1: up there with Miles Garrett and in pressure rate in

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Speaker 1: that part of the season. Say, I think it was

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Speaker 1: like round sixteen percent sixteen point four, Miles was at

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Speaker 1: like sixteen point three. Obo was third and Miles was fourth.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's that's a big deal. And he's

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Speaker 1: right up there on the list with a lot of

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Speaker 1: good guys too. So, um, then you obviously put him

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Speaker 1: in in the D line friendly system that that Jim

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Speaker 1: Schwartz is going to roll it out. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna stretch those those addushterers out just a little bit

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Speaker 1: wider to give them more space. And you know, be

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Speaker 1: able to use more pass rush moves and really kind

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Speaker 1: of go a little deeper into what they're able to

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Speaker 1: do to get around tackles, and um, you know, they

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Speaker 1: they're really Obo was the first guy that they signed

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Speaker 1: on free agency. I don't know if that if that

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Speaker 1: means anything or not, but he was definitely somebody that

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Speaker 1: they He's had, he's been on the radar for a

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Speaker 1: while and you know, you look at what he did,

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Speaker 1: five sacks in those eight games last year. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's what the kind of production that you need.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you need over the course of a full seventeen games,

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Speaker 1: but that's the production that you need. On the other

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Speaker 1: side of of of Miles Garrett, I think the most

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Speaker 1: impressive part of that was you're he's playing on a

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Speaker 1: Houston team that I mean, were they tanking? Yeah, probably

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Speaker 1: a good chance until Lovey Smith screwed it up in

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Speaker 1: a week eighteen, which is one of the greatest things still.

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Speaker 1: But I've inver scene in the National Football League that

553
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Speaker 1: doesn't get enough attention or accolades for Lovey Smith. But

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Speaker 1: I mean we've been a part of those teams. Yeah,

555
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: where you're out of it it by Halloween. Yeah, well

556
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: you're out of it the first week in October and

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Speaker 1: you're playing out the string and he just he really

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Speaker 1: came on and he got himself paid because of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know, you just talk about how he plays

560
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Speaker 1: on the Texas everything, like there's not there wasn't anybody

561
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Speaker 1: else on that defensive line really who is going to

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Speaker 1: draw an extra amount of attention. And now he's on

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Speaker 1: a deep line, obviously, Miles is going to be getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of extra attention every single snap. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the most double team players in the league last year.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for Obo? Now? Like he was

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Speaker 1: able to do that under a fairly pedestrian defensive line

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Speaker 1: worked out really well. Now he's on a d line,

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Speaker 1: Like I, like I said, you know, Jim Schwartz's gonna

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Speaker 1: he has success with his addreshers, they play well, They

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Speaker 1: played really well historically, and now Miles is he's got

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Speaker 1: Miles on it, He's gonna be getting attention and Obos,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna have a lot of room, a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of time, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: opportunities to get to the quarterback again. The big thing

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Speaker 1: with him though, it's just just staying healthy again because

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Speaker 1: he dealt with a lot of injuries. There's first three

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Speaker 1: and a half four years in the league. Finally able

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Speaker 1: to play seventeen games last year. That's gonna be the key.

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Speaker 1: And again we were talking about it, you know, before

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Speaker 1: the break there about they still need more add rusher

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Speaker 1: help because what if somebody does get hurt, you know.

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Speaker 1: But I am excited about him. If he's able to

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Speaker 1: play a full season. I think he's he's got a

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Speaker 1: chance to be a guy who is at the top

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Speaker 1: of the breakout year players in the league this year. Yeah. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: So is he the guy that can help us the most?

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I ask you most excited. Yeah, I'm

589
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Speaker 1: excited about him the player I think is going to

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Speaker 1: help the most because he's gonna be able to help

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Speaker 1: in multiple ways besides just catching the football. And that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of Moore, the guy that got last week. Um,

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Speaker 1: they just it was so obvious last year that that

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Speaker 1: they were just lacking that extra speed element, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't help that Amara Cooper was playing, uh

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Speaker 1: I think with a hurt quad over the course of

597
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Speaker 1: the last few games. When when the seawan stepped in.

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Speaker 1: But they really. I mean, you just did not see

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Speaker 1: Deshaun through very many deep balls. And you know, now

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Speaker 1: he's got a guy like Elijah who will be able

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Speaker 1: to you know, burn past some guys and give him

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to make some deeper completions. UM. But then

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Speaker 1: beyond that, like just when you have a guy like

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Speaker 1: that who a defense has to be mindful of every

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Speaker 1: time he's on the field, Uh, you're you're going to

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Speaker 1: create even more space for guys like Amar Donovan People's

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Speaker 1: Jones in the middle of the field, for those those

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Speaker 1: kind of medium distance side passes. Um, that's going to

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Speaker 1: open up more space for them. The safeties are going

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Speaker 1: to be occupied with Elijah, and you know, guys like

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Speaker 1: Amara Cooper and Donam People's Jones are going to benefit

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Speaker 1: from having Elijah more in that offense as well. Now.

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Speaker 1: And and you know this is this is this is

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Speaker 1: what they needed. This was easily I would have put honestly,

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Speaker 1: getting a speedy receiver um right there with with defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle and finding you know, the top need for what

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Speaker 1: they needed to accomplish this year. And and they got it,

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Speaker 1: and they got it I think for a really good price.

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Speaker 1: I mean to be able to get a third round

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Speaker 1: pick back for them too is excellent. I think that

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Speaker 1: that was an a plus deal by Andrew Berry. And

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about what Elijamore is gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to do in this offense and what it means for

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Speaker 1: Deshaun and the and all the other receiver. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be able to help the most.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's switch our attention to the owner's meetings.

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Speaker 1: You spent some quality time in the sun in the pool,

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Speaker 1: hiking Camelback Mountain, UH, rubbing elbows with the big wigs

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Speaker 1: of the big wigs in the National Football League every

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Speaker 1: night at the Biltmore in in Arizona, which is a

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Speaker 1: fantastic hotel. Uh. Your biggest takeaway, say, you know Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefan Andrew Berry talks Sunday nights. Stefanski talked Monday, Uh,

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Speaker 1: and I believe the Haslums talked from Monday night. Am

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Speaker 1: I correct? On there? Tuesday morning they spoke on It

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Speaker 1: was Monday, Tuesday, Tuesday. I was on a plane the

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Speaker 1: whole day. It was so long travel day, but it

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00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: was it was fine. It's a lot going on, though,

638
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the top people in this organization in this franchise. Uh,

639
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: talk to the media, and they talked to the media

640
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: for a long time. Twenty five thirty minutes. Thirty five minutes. Yeah,

641
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean the annual meetings are important, and I don't

642
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: think I've appreciated how important the annual meetings are until

643
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I started working here. Um. But you know, when you're

644
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: able to get everybody and everybody in the league, all

645
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the GM's owners, coaches are all in one place at

646
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: the same time, and for them, it's almost like a

647
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: mini vacation, right because they're they're always in a relatively

648
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: nice part of the country and a nice part of

649
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: that nice part of the country, and they are able

650
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: to you know, just meet hang out. Um, they have

651
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: some fun. They do stuff beyond just uh, you know,

652
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: going to meetings and stuff. It's it's beyond that. They

653
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: take their families for for vacations too. So but no,

654
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: it's a great setting. Um. I'd say my takeaways from

655
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: what we heard from you know, Stefanski ab and then

656
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: I'll get to to you know, anything that hasn't said

657
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: later too. But you know, they just I'll just pick

658
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: up right where I left off talking about Elijah more

659
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Marquis Good when the two the two big uh you know,

660
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: additions that they were able to kind of lock in

661
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: last week, Um, just more Elijah Moore. The thing that

662
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I got from Sapanacy I thought was interesting was he's

663
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: a guy that it's it's he's not going to just

664
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: be used in the slot. You know. I think if

665
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: you look at how Elijah Moore had historically been used

666
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: both his first two years in the NFL and obviously

667
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: at All Miss, was that he was a big slack guy.

668
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that Savanacy said, you know,

669
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: he's we're not going to just limit him to the slot,

670
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: like we do want him to still help us out outside,

671
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: and that he's probably still going to play a lot

672
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: in the slot. That's where he's just made his money

673
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: when he was at All Miss, that's primarily where he

674
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: worked from. And you know, he was still able to

675
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: to burn guys in the middle of the field, and

676
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: that's going to be a really big weapon if they're

677
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: able to kind of unleashed that again from Elijah more

678
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: in this offense. But um, you know, you're not going

679
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: to see him just penciled in on the inside all

680
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: the time. And I think I like that, like that

681
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: that you know, they want to take full they want

682
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: to maximize all the traits that he brings and and

683
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: specifically all the traits that his speed brings. Um, and

684
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: he's got good hands too. I think it's he's only

685
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: got like three career drops. It's you know, he's got

686
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: a reliable pair of hands that I think is really

687
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: going to help this team and Stevanski wants them to to,

688
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, use it in every way that he can.

689
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: And I like that. So, um, next point I had

690
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: was just, uh, but they talked a little bit about

691
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Jed Wills and um, obviously you've got a big, big

692
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: decision coming up with him with the with the fifth

693
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: year option. But you know, they said that they thought, um,

694
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: he had the best year of his career last year.

695
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: And I know, yeah, I know it was. There were

696
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: some times where it wasn't It wasn't perfect, No, it

697
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. But the fact that they were willing to,

698
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, come out and say that about him, um,

699
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: I think can also be a little bit of hint

700
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: of where they're thinking for that fifth year option, which

701
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: seems to suggest that, uh, it's it's pretty likely that

702
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: that they'll pick that up, so we'll obviously they've got

703
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: time to decide. We'll see, But they apparently liked what

704
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: they saw out of Jed Wills last year. Yeah, Jed,

705
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Jed's another guy that he's from that twenty twenty draft class.

706
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Got to step up. Oh. I mean, like he's played well,

707
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: but for us to take the next step as an organization,

708
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: everybody's got to step up, right, and he is not

709
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: immune to that. And I think the key with Jed

710
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: this year, and we've we've talked about this a lot,

711
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: with just the transition that the offensive lineman had to

712
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: make in the middle of last year, going from Jacoby

713
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: to DeShawn. Jacoby obviously not as mobile m DeShawn able

714
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: to improvise make plays if the pocket breaks down. You

715
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: know that that's a big adjustment for the offensive lineman

716
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: too to make the you know, they they kind of

717
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: learned to to not stop their role in the play.

718
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: They got to keep plays going too. You know, when

719
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: the Shawn rolls out, they've got to still still be blocking.

720
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's part of the reason where

721
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Jed was a little bit inconsistent, but

722
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: that you know, it was it was adjustment for all

723
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: of the offensive linemen, correct, And yeah, I don't think

724
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: we don't talk enough about that, but yeah, two very

725
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: different quarterback styles. Yeah, and I mean that was always

726
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: going to be a hard transition for the offensive line

727
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: to make in the middle of Yeah, I I know,

728
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that it took that. You know, it

729
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: took full six games really for them to kind of

730
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it was never really fully consistent with them

731
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: when the Sean gout and I feel like, um, but

732
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: that's where it's going to help to just have a

733
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: full offseason this year. You know, these guys have experienced

734
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: now like has Joel did Joel ever blatonia? Like did

735
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: he ever really play consistently with a quarterback as mobile

736
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: as the Seawan? I no, no, right, no, So even

737
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: for guys like him, it was gonna be a little

738
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: bit of an adjustment and uh yeah, so um so yeah,

739
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I think it's it'll be better for the offensive line

740
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: this year, and it needs to be better. Uh for

741
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: ged Will still, even though they said that they thought

742
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: he had the best year of his career last year,

743
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: they've you know, they I think they want to still

744
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: see a little bit more of him, um, and and

745
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: and make sure that he ensures that a fifth year

746
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: option is the right move. Indeed, ya gonna be. There's

747
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: some underlying stories as we get closer to camp that

748
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: are worth watching. You know, will they will they reduce

749
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: some more of these contracts. There's a lot of money

750
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: being paid to them to a small amount of people.

751
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: And you know, if there's if there's a big fish

752
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: out there to still go get, you're going to have

753
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: to restructure some more contracts. So there's something to watch

754
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: there there with with Jedderick Wills and that fifth year option,

755
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: that's something to watch as well. Um. Anything else that

756
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: really stood out to you from the owner's meetings, especially

757
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: anything from Jimmy and d Haslem, Yeah, absolutely. Um. You

758
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: know they talked a lot about where things are at

759
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: with with the stadium and what's sort of the head there.

760
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: It is a very hot topic. Um. They did say

761
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: that it doesn't look like there there will be a dome. Uh.

762
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: Their main focus is on renovating First Energy Stadium, kind

763
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: of meshing that more into the redevelopments that the City

764
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: of Cleveland and may or justin bib right now are

765
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: trying to make as far as redeveloping that waterfront area. UM.

766
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of fans really want to dome.

767
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Know I've I've been to a lot of more of

768
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: the new dome stadiums around the league, and I like

769
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: them a lot. Um, But it just seems like that's

770
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: not something that's in the cards for for the surround

771
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: of renovations. But obviously it's still top of mind for

772
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: them that they they want to make that a better

773
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: place for fans and a better place to play football. UM,

774
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: in a better area, absolutely, I mean the lakefront still

775
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: needs work. I mean a beautiful piece of property. And

776
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: and that's what they were saying, is you know, they

777
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: they they know how much opportunity is there if you're

778
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: able to build you know, nice things around the lakefront,

779
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: that it's gonna make Cleveland a more attractive city, is it?

780
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's more community spaces, better, better buildings, a

781
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: better stadium, of course, Uh, it's it's gonna really, it

782
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: would make Cleveland pop a lot more. And so it

783
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: seems like the direction is not to be let's build

784
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: a stadium and a new piece of land around Cleveland.

785
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: It's not let's build a new stadium that's gonna have

786
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: a dome and a new piece of land around Cleveland.

787
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be what can we do with the property

788
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: that we already owned by the lake to make that

789
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: stadium better. Now, the thing that I keep thinking of

790
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: my mind of like maybe this is a direction that

791
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: they can go with this is you know, you look

792
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: at what they did in Miami to that stadium a

793
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: few years back, and I don't know how logistically how

794
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: much you can compare what the Browns could do to

795
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: first er stay and compared to what the Dolphins did

796
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: at hard Rock Stadium. But you know, the Dolphins, over

797
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: the course of I think three four or five years,

798
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: renovated that entire stadium. Used to host posta both baseball

799
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: and football. It was not a great stadium. It had

800
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: no shade for fans, and it was terrible. And and

801
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: then the renovated it to make it, you know, one

802
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: of the a gem of an outdoor stadium. M still outdoors,

803
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: but you know they put the shades on top. It

804
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: was it's a more a more attractive place for everything.

805
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: And now they're hosting Formula one events, they host you know,

806
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they they host all kinds of other

807
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: different events there, and I wonder if that's something that

808
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: you know that they could do in Cleveland. I know

809
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: it's obviously a lot different of a climate, but over

810
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: the course of three four five years, slowly kind of

811
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: get those renovations in the stadium. Will look weird for

812
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it's all it's all gonna be better.

813
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: Spaceship from after the Bears renovation. Yeah, when the Bears played,

814
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I was I was living in Illinois and I had

815
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: to cover the Bears in Champagne and came back and

816
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this is the renovation. It's a spaceship

817
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: on top of like an artifact, and it's not going

818
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: to be I mean, personally, if they're gonna if they

819
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: got to renovate the stadium, then I think they just

820
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: really renovate in the sense of, Okay, you're using the

821
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: same space, but you got to build build it from

822
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: the ground up. Still, you know, don't like just that's

823
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: the problem with what the Bears did is they kind

824
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: of they kept parts and bits and pieces of what

825
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: that old stadium was and they just tried to build

826
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: on top of it, and it just didn't work out. Um,

827
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: whereas in Miami they rebuilt like everything, So I think

828
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: that's what they would want it, like I would like

829
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: to do with this. But we'll see, we'll see. Yeah,

830
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: all right, that's a look at what happened at the

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00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,399
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848
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Speaker 1: So right place and right time for that. As Bow

849
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: likes to say, poisel k on a first Friday, you

850
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: should act accordingly. Have a cocktail. The problem was I

851
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: had about ten last night, and that would explain a

852
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: lot about the voice and how everything's feeling today in

853
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: my body, which currently hates me. But that's hard. We

854
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: had family in town and hadn't seen the family in

855
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: a while and made the most of it. Yea, I

856
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: would be remiss if I said I also did not

857
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: celebrate a first Friday. Went out with my pickup pocket

858
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: team Brea Bombers. I know, a little shout out some

859
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: of them might be listening right now, Um, shout out

860
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: to the Bombers, and uh, you know, capped off a great,

861
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: a great and fun season last night and went to

862
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Mcies Pub, had a couple of drinks there, so my

863
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: good friend Pat mcginney owns McGee. It was great. So

864
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: so we had a little bit of a First Friday

865
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: celebration as well. Very nice. How is the hockey team?

866
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: Are we good? Not? We are better than last year.

867
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: That is all. We're better than last year. I'm not

868
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: sure what our record is, but we were in every

869
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: single game this year, and that alone is a huge

870
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: jump in the right direction. And power ranking, where would

871
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: you rank yourself on this team? No other names needed,

872
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: but where would you put yourself on your on the

873
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: power rankings? You are just opening it up for me

874
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: to get absolutely roasted by teammates. No matter what I

875
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: say here, which I know I understand, I want to say,

876
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm middle of the pack. I think we've

877
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: got like sixteen seventeen people on the team. I'll say, um,

878
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: seven eight, number seven and eight, I'll say, right around,

879
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: that's an above average Yeah. I mean, well, I played

880
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: for twelve, thirteen, fourteen years, and everybody on the team

881
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: it's has played for a long time too. So I'll

882
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: just say I'm right in the middle of the play

883
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of center, right, you sit on that

884
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: fence your fine? Yeah, I'm really curious to see what

885
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: happens on my phone now. But well, I think they're

886
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: all busy. We've got lots of things going on internally today,

887
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: so I'm sure, yeah, all right with that, let's play

888
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: a little fact or fiction, Paula's hit the music and

889
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: let's get going. Uh right now, it is predicting the

890
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty three performances of wide receivers that

891
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: change teams NFL dot Com. First things first, d J

892
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Moore traded by the Carolina Panthers to the Chicago Bears. Uh.

893
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: According to NFL dot Com, they say his twenty twenty

894
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: three numbers will be better poisel. Is that a fact

895
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: or fiction? Yeah? No, this is a fact. If DJ

896
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Moore is not better with Justin Field and the Bears

897
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: next year, then then something terribly wrong is going on Cagou.

898
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: He's a talented guy who never really had a true

899
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: talented quarterback for Carolina. Now he's got. He's in really

900
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: good hands with an up and coming QB who showed

901
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: some really really good moments last year. Yeah, they finally

902
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: got him a weapon exactly. And I just think this

903
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: is a perfect situation for DJ Moore. Um, things are

904
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: always a little shaky with with the Bears. You never

905
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: really know for sure, boy statement, Yeah, but I really

906
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: like his fit with Justice Fields and I think this

907
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: is what Justin Fields needs. I think this is what

908
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: DJ Moore needs DJ Moore absolutely should be and needs

909
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: to be better than what he has been last what

910
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: he was last year with the Panthers, with the Bears

911
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: this year, for for them to really find the offense

912
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: that they've been looking to find now in year three

913
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields. All right, next, Oh no, the factor

914
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: of fiction button, it's not working. Oh no, it's got

915
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: to be out of date. I'll I'll see if I

916
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: can try and get up to date on Fontana and Cunningham. Absolutely, yeah,

917
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: we can definitely do that both of them. All right, Paulos,

918
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: I'll lead it off with you here, Factor Fiction, Brandon

919
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: Cooks will be better in twenty twenty three with the

920
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, because that's what NFL dot com says he

921
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: will be. Brandon Cooks Now, Brandon Cooks. I'm just looking

922
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: up his stats from my retriever last years fifty seven catches,

923
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: seven hundred receiving yards in three touchdown. Yeah, that is.

924
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: He is definitely gonna be way, way, way better than that,

925
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: especially with Dak Prescott able to throw him the ball. Now.

926
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, as we all know, is an overrated quarterback.

927
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: That's just a straight up facts. History of Dallas Cowboy

928
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks as has a lot of them are Yes, no

929
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: doubt about Tony Romo already. You can look at Troy

930
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Aikman as well, very overrated as well. The only reason

931
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: why he's in is because of those Super Bowl rings

932
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: and he can thank Emmett Smith in that offensive line

933
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: for that as well as the playmaker. Playmaker made a

934
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: lot of plays for him as well. But Dak Prescott

935
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: is if we know one thing about Dak, Deck's gonna

936
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: get his yards, He's gonna get his touchdowns. It's all

937
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: about the choking aspect for Dak, and I think that

938
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna Brandon Cooks is gonna put up yards as

939
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: the number two wide receiver there to Ceedee Lamb. But

940
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: outside of that, I mean, if we're looking if we're

941
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: talking about success, they're not gonna make it out of

942
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: the first round like they typically don't poise out fact

943
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: or fiction. Yeah, definitely a fact. I mean just looking

944
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: at what Cooks did last year and even felt toward

945
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: the end of the year he just didn't wasn't really

946
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: doing anything and you didn't want to play. He wanted

947
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: to be trading exactly. And the Cowboys they wanted him.

948
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: I think he's still got talent. He's twenty nine. He's

949
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: definitely getting a little older, but not over thirty yet.

950
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: And I really like what you might be able to

951
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: do now that he's on a roster that's got guys

952
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: that are also going to draw a lot of attention

953
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: from the defense, right, I mean, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup,

954
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: all to two talented players, and so I think again,

955
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: if Brandon Cooks isn't topping those numbers, I think something

956
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: something could be going wrong with the Cowboys offense. All right.

957
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Next fact or fiction? Alan Lazard, you're six, age twenty seven,

958
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: ends up signing with the New York Football Jets. With

959
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: the Packers last year fifteen games, sixty catches, seven eighty

960
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: eight receiving yards, six touchdowns, they say he will be

961
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: worse poiselle Fact or fiction. I'm going with fact again

962
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: because even if this Aaron Rodgers deal to the Jets

963
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: does go through, which again we talked about it last week,

964
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: it's not about the compensation. It appears right now, that's

965
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: the coming out of the owners, but nothing is official

966
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: in this league until it's official. Now, even if Aaron

967
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: Rodgers does go to New York. Right, He's still gonna

968
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: have competition. Still, Lazard is still gonna have competition with

969
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. I agree, I think, I fact, I think

970
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: his numbers will be worse, but I don't think it'll

971
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: be much worse though. I mean, if if Aaron is

972
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: still in New York and he's gonna find a way

973
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: to get the ball to his guy Poisel, I'm sorry,

974
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: Paulas Pollos and Poisel, I've got two different right there.

975
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: But sellars. Yeah, after fiction, I believe they say he's

976
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna have worse numbers. I think he's gonna actually have

977
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: better numbers personally, So I think that is actually what

978
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: would that be fiction? Then? Correct? Yeah, So sixty receptions,

979
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty eight yards, and six touchdowns last

980
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: year for Lazard. I'm looking at it from the standpoint

981
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: of Aaron's gonna need to throw to someone that he's

982
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: comfortable with because he is going to be in New York.

983
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: It whether that's now or three months from now, it's

984
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: absolutely going to happen here. So what we're gonna do is, yeah,

985
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: I will say Alan Zard is going to have more yards,

986
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: more touchdowns, and a better overall year. Up next, Jakobe

987
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Myers to the Los Angeles now the Las Vegas Raiders

988
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: with the Patriots in twenty twenty two fourteen game sixty

989
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: seven catches, eight hundred four yards, six receiving touchdowns. NFL

990
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: dot Com says his numbers will be better in twenty

991
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: twenty three, as he gets the ball from one. Jimmy

992
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Garoppolo paulis fact or fiction. I think it's actually gonna

993
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: be fact. I think that he is going to have

994
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: some better numbers because Jimmy G is gonna be going

995
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: back to an offense that he's comfortable with. And I mean,

996
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: he got to hope for the injury history not to

997
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, bite him, you know, bite him in the

998
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: butt again. But as we all know, Jimmy G's probably

999
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna get injured somewhere along the way. Jared Stidham actually

1000
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: didn't look bad, too terrible in that offense with uh god,

1001
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: what what's why can't I remember his name? Who's the Oh,

1002
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: my god? For which team? Yeah? For the Raiders, Josh McDaniels, Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, No, I believe he's actually gonna have a

1004
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: better year no matter who's throwing in the ball. I

1005
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a better year. It can't be

1006
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: any worse than what Mac Jones was boyse l. I'm

1007
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: gonna go with fiction, and I just I don't see

1008
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: things working out the way that people think it will

1009
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels in Las Vegas. I'm looking at what

1010
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: I mean. Jakobe Myers did not have a bad year

1011
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: last year. He eight hundred four total receiving yards, six

1012
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: total touchdowns, right, not not numbers that are gonna blow

1013
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: anything out of the water, but still not a bad year.

1014
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: And I just don't I don't think that he I

1015
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: don't know if Jimmy g is an upgrade over Derek

1016
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: carr Um. It's certainly possible that he can be, but

1017
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know for sure, And that's because

1018
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: I just don't have a whole lot of I don't

1019
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of trusted in that in what

1020
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels has done so far and is not just

1021
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, but his whole history hasn't had er role. Yeah, yes,

1022
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: he doesn't give you any Yeah, so agreed. So I'm

1023
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna go fiction on Jacobe having a better season in

1024
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I don't think it's any kind of

1025
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: slam dunk that he's gonna that he is going to

1026
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: perform any better with the Raiders, and he did last

1027
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: year with the Pats. All right, we've got about a

1028
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: minute left for real quick. Anybody think Juju Smith Shoster

1029
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: is gonna have a better year this year playing with

1030
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Absolutely not, absolutely not. What about

1031
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling with the Carol line of Panthers. Huh, probably not.

1032
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say absolutely not, but probably not. Last

1033
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: year seven hundred and sixteen yards, six receiving touchdowns. He's

1034
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: thirty three years old. To me that, yeah, no, just

1035
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: say again, you start spending big money on free agents,

1036
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: this is what happens. I was just gonna say, like,

1037
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I understand he's gonna be, you know, a new situation.

1038
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: He's probably the number one down in Carolina now, but

1039
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a rookie throwing the ball, and I

1040
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: believe CJ. Strouty he's gonna go number one, And I

1041
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: love CJ. But he's a rookie and good luck with that.

1042
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's gonna come anywhere near those numbers. Yeah.

1043
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Theeland's a thirty three year old receiver, and

1044
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: if he's the number one, that means he's gonna be

1045
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: going against some very very talented cornerbacks every week, whereas

1046
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: in Minnesota he those guys were lying up against Justin Jefferson.

1047
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see how Theeland's going to be

1048
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: able to have a better year or I think that.

1049
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: To me, this signing scream is something that's like it's

1050
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: just not going to pan out for for for next year.

1051
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Anthony Poisel, It's been a pleasure,

1052
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: my friend. You've held your own quite nicely. Well done.

1053
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Look forward to having you back soon, my friend. Now

1054
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having you back on CBD next

1055
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: week for a little higher or lower with the boys

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00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: when they return. Always looking forward to it and thankful

1057
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: for the opportunity to jump on here for a full hour. Gibbs,

1058
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: this is a fun time, perfect good. We appreciate it, Nick,

1059
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: Paulas appreciate your help. Nick and I stick around for

1060
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: hour two coming up next. Nathan Zaguras Exclusive one on

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Speaker 1: one with Safety one Thorn Hill. You're listening to Cleveland

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00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: this Football Thursday idea with us now to hear from

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00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: some of the luminaries that we've been talking to over

1069
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: the last few weeks and over the last month that

1070
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: maybe we just we haven't had a chance to present

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00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: to you yet, and this is as good a time

1072
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: as any New Brown safety one Thornhill. He's played in

1073
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: three Super Bowls. Well, he's played in two Super Bowls

1074
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: one one. He has been to three. He was hurt

1075
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: the first time when the Chiefs won their first one,

1076
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: got the chance to get back two more times, including

1077
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: old this January's win over the Philadelphia Eagles. He is

1078
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: now a Cleveland Brown and before he met with the media,

1079
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: he sat down with our own Nathan Zigura for this

1080
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: exclusive Cleveland Brown's Daily one on one interview. Well on,

1081
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: first of all, welcome to the Cleveland Browns. How's it

1082
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: kind of been? Just from the moment that you signed,

1083
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: going through everything coming through the facility today. You know,

1084
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: what's it been like for you? Has been amazing, just

1085
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: like signing here, Like Preec, I didn't know where I

1086
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: was going to be first of all, but in signing here,

1087
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: I was excited, like just looking at the players and

1088
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: my teammates. They're gonna be Hey, they're gonna be really

1089
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: great teammates. These guys are really good players. But I

1090
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: robbed to Cleveland last night and I came here with

1091
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: like not knowing what to expect. I mean, because that's

1092
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: how I try to walk into everything, getting downtown, just

1093
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: starting there in the city's beautiful, Like I mean, I

1094
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: love it already, Like I've been trying to just see

1095
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: everything around here, walking around the facilities. The facility is

1096
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: amazing as well. So I'm really loving Well, we're certainly

1097
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: happy to have you here. You mentioned the starter free agency.

1098
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: You didn't know what was going to happen for the

1099
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: first time in your career. Right, you get drafted in

1100
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: the second round by the Chiefs, play your whole career there,

1101
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: and we'll get into that story career that you had

1102
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: there in a second. But what was it like when

1103
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: you got the call. What was kind of the walk

1104
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: us through the negotiation when it became real that you

1105
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: could become a Cleveland Brown and then your decision to say, yeah,

1106
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: I want to be a Cleveland Brown. I was out

1107
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: in Miami, Florida with my fiance just congratulations, yeah, thank you,

1108
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: just walking around and all of a sudden, I was

1109
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: in the car and I got a phone call from

1110
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: my agent. He was like, wom we got some something

1111
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: that we need to take care of. And I'm in

1112
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: a hotel lobby. My heart's pounding because I'm like, all right,

1113
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: where am I going? I'm just I don't know where

1114
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm about to go, and I'm just excited. And they

1115
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: told me that I was coming to Cleveland. I felt

1116
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: like I was gonna crying, Honestly. He just like felt

1117
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: like Drive Day all over again. I was just super

1118
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: excited and finally knew where I was gonna go. And

1119
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland is a great city. I've heard a lot of

1120
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: good things about being here in this organization, so I'm excited.

1121
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: The beer passionate fans, what you're gonna hear about? You've

1122
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: heard about the dog poun You brought your own dog

1123
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: pounds here today. What's the story with the dogs making

1124
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: the trip because you're coming to the dog pound? Said,

1125
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: they gotta come. I brought my dog to the dog pound.

1126
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: So I'm the biggest dog in the dog pounaby. I

1127
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: love that. All right. Let's talk about Kansas City. You

1128
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: go there, You're playing three Super Bowls, right, You win

1129
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: two of those Super Bowls the first one obviously were injured,

1130
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: you weren't able to play. So to get back into

1131
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: that game, to be able to play in it and

1132
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: to win it this year, what did that mean to you?

1133
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean it was me. I had a lot going on,

1134
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: like you said, um I told my acl in nineteen,

1135
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: not being able to play in a Super Bowl, Just

1136
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: like sending in the stands watching your teammate, your teammates

1137
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: and your team run out the locker room, playing in

1138
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: the biggest game, the biggest stage, and you know you're

1139
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: growing up wanting to play in that game your whole life.

1140
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: And it was my rookie season. But it was sickening,

1141
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: just like sitting there and just watching them play, knowing

1142
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to be a part of it. But

1143
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: we won, So I had mixed emotions, like I'm sad

1144
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: and at the same time, I'm happy, but it just

1145
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: made me more hungry to work harder to get back

1146
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: into that game so I can possibly play in it

1147
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: and to win a super Bowl. And I got there again,

1148
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: but we lost that one, so I don't even want

1149
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: to talk about that one. But then I had the

1150
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: opportunity and make it back this year and I was

1151
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: able to play in this when it actually win it.

1152
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: It was truly amazing just being able to get that

1153
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: feeling as an experience that it's hard to explain that

1154
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: you just have to be there and just seeing like

1155
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: the confetti fall and knowing that all the work that

1156
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: you put in throughout the season it finally paid off

1157
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: and you're the best in the NFL and is the

1158
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: best feeling. How hungry were you when he suffered that

1159
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: injury to get back on the field, to get back

1160
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl to win? It took three years

1161
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl and some people will never

1162
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: go to a Super Bowl in their whole career. But

1163
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: what kind of did you learn about yourself in that

1164
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: period where something that you took for granted you were

1165
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: going to be playing right was taken away from you.

1166
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean I learned so much, like you said, like

1167
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: not knowing that an ACL could slow you down as

1168
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: much as it did. I thought I was gonna I mean, yeah,

1169
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: toy it. I was like, oh, I'll be fine, like

1170
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: in a couple of months and get out there. And

1171
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: I struggle mentally, for mentally and physically for two years.

1172
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: And I mean my knee bothered me for a while.

1173
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: And I would say this year was my first year

1174
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: being like one hundred percent. And this showed like I

1175
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: performed well this year, and I was just hungry all

1176
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: the season to make plays and to get back to

1177
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: that game, and I wanted to go out on a

1178
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: hot note. He certainly did. Super Bowl Champion. He had

1179
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: three picks this year, career high, and tackles as well.

1180
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: And now you come to the Cleveland Browns when you

1181
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: go and you sign a contract like that, is that

1182
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: something even as a young man, that your thought was

1183
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: possible to sign, you know, for twenty plus million dollars?

1184
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: And what does that kind of mean to you? Thinking

1185
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: you know your upbringing to where you are here today. See,

1186
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: with me, I always bet on myself, like that is

1187
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: something that I've always been knowing that I could do

1188
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: like growing up, I used to tell people that I

1189
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: was going to play in the eighth in the NFL

1190
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: in the eighth grade, and people were laugh at me.

1191
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: I remember, and I'm just like, I'm I'm going to

1192
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: show you. Well you're laughing out. Yeah, I'm laughing now.

1193
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: But then once you get into the NFL, they say

1194
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: that it's hard to make it to that second contract,

1195
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: only to select few guys make it to a second contract.

1196
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: And with me, even even after I told my cl

1197
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: I knew that I was going to get here because

1198
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I work harder than most of my

1199
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: opponents and the guys that's next to me as well.

1200
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: And when you got a guy in your room that

1201
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: works hard, you're gonna push each and everyone to work

1202
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: even harder because you're a competitor. I read you said something.

1203
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: You know, I don't care if I'm playing cornhole, whatever

1204
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: it is you want to win. I love that. I

1205
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: feel like that's a mentality you have to have because

1206
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: you must hate losing, right, Losing must make you second.

1207
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: I hate losing like I've been born a winner. Like

1208
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know, I got five state

1209
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: championships coming out of high school. So like, I'm just

1210
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: used to win it. That's something that I do and

1211
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't plan on stopping now. Well, look, we'd love

1212
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: to bring that here to the Cleveland Browns. What does

1213
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: it take? You've been around it, right, What does it take?

1214
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: From an individual standpoint, the commitment you must make, and

1215
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: then also from a team standpoint, what does it actually take?

1216
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes probably helps a little bit too, But

1217
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: what does it take to win a Super Bowl and

1218
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: to be elite year after year after year in this

1219
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: very competitive league? I mean, it takes more than what

1220
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: you think, like small things, Like a lot of guys

1221
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: think that football you just come to practice and you

1222
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: just practice that together and you just go your separate ways. No,

1223
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: it takes more than that. You have to be able

1224
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: to build those relationships with your teammates, like things like

1225
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: that will make you so much better. And that's one

1226
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: thing that I'm looking at bringing here is just bringing

1227
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: the defense together, the office together, bringing everybody together, because

1228
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: if you build those relationships with one another, it makes

1229
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: you dominant, believe it or not. You can set of

1230
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: just communicating calls on the field, can look at each

1231
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: other and know what you're thinking. Because you've been around

1232
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: each other so much, and I just think that things

1233
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: like that make you more dominant. What was it like

1234
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: for you this year working with so many rookies, right?

1235
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: You guys had to basically the entire back end other

1236
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: than yourself and Lagarius rookies, and you're able to get

1237
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: them to play at a high level and mold them,

1238
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: and you're gonna come here. Now you've got some younger guys,

1239
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: Greggs in his third year, MJ's gonna be in the

1240
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: second year, Grants in his fourth year, and then you

1241
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: got Denzel. But they're guys who at least have played.

1242
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: What was that like working with so many rookies and

1243
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: they now coming to a place where they've got some

1244
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: more established guys. It was It wasn't as bad as

1245
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: people would think. Like I thought it was gonna be

1246
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: like hard having a bunch of guys that like just

1247
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: down got it to the NFL. But those guys made

1248
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: it so much easier on me, honestly, Like I tell

1249
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: this story all the time, Like I remember me coming

1250
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: in as a rookie. I was trying to study the

1251
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: playbook by myself each and every night. First rated like

1252
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: wanting to cross sometimes because it's hard to pick up

1253
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: on the playbook and not really having anybody to talk

1254
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: to about it. But these rookies they stepped in and

1255
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: they went about doing it themselves. They had like groups

1256
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: together and they were study to playbook together. So one

1257
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: person didn't know what the other guys did. So, like

1258
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: I said, they made it easy on me. And I

1259
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 1: was just the older guy, like the vet that if

1260
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: they didn't understand something, they can come and ask me,

1261
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: and I'll be that I gotta let them know, like

1262
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: what's fright and what's wrong. Who's the one that taught

1263
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: you how to be a pro, because that's I think

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Speaker 1: one of the big keys in this league, right I

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Speaker 1: was learning how to be a pro. Yeah, I would

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01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: say Tyra Matthews, like yeah, the guy he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a competitor. You can see that. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what helped me out as well. Like I mean

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Speaker 1: just watching him practice each and every day, like he's

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Speaker 1: not trying to lose a rep on the field. He's

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Speaker 1: just a great leader. So when you're in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: guy got up in the front. Chris Jones, pretty good

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Speaker 1: game wrecker, can get after the quarterback come here. Now

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a guy named Miles Garrett, pretty darn

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Speaker 1: good game wrecker can get after the quarterback When you're

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Speaker 1: on the back end and you know that the quarterback

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: knows there's a finite amount of time that I can

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01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: hold this football before I'm gonna get hit. How does

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Speaker 1: that affect how you're able to play and maybe some

1280
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: of the chances you're able to take to go be

1281
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: a round the ball batmans. My job so much easier

1282
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: when you got a guy like Chris Jones and Miles

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01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 1: Garrett up front. You know that you're only covering foot

1284
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: maybe two seconds because that third second, the ball has

1285
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: got to come out. And if they get back there

1286
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: and hit that quarterback, that's when the quarterback saw us

1287
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: to throw balls up. And that's going to make it

1288
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: fun for me because I'm just covering fifty three yards

1289
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: idline the sile and picking everything off. So you your

1290
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: versatile as the safety, and I know you talked with

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz and he kind of likes that versatility. But

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01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: if you like playing that center field role, and I

1293
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: know we'll play a lot of single high here and

1294
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: something that you like to do it's fun. I mean

1295
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: it's fun when you really don't have any responsibility but

1296
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 1: played a quarterback and play the ball, Like it doesn't

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01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: get any better than that. Like it's it's like a

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01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: one on one matchup. Who's smart and who can make

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: who make a mistake. That's all it is. And I

1300
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: really enjoy being back there in that in that D third.

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Speaker 1: Who are some of the quarterbacks that you like kind

1302
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: of having that battle with? Uh? A guy that I

1303
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: feel like I might have is uh, Derek Carr, Like

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01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: I like him, Well he went to the NFC. He's like,

1305
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: all right, one's going over. A guy that I feel

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Speaker 1: like I was actually like I definitely lost that battle

1307
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers. Like that's one guy could not just

1308
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out when I played him. I was

1309
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: a rookie back then, a D third and he was

1310
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: kind of like picking me apart. I couldn't figure out

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: where he was going to go, And I felt like

1312
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: I struggled that game. But everyone else I feel like

1313
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: I can get a good read on, even Tom Brady

1314
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: the Goat, I feel like I had a good read

1315
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: on as well. Well, you're gonna get another shot at

1316
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. If he does, in fact, you make his

1317
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: way to the Jets, as it looks like well they

1318
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: will be playing the Browns this year, so it'll get

1319
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: another shot out of there. Oh yeah, what do you

1320
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: love about this game? I mean it's a man's game.

1321
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: That's what makes me the most excited about it. Like

1322
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like when you get first traded,

1323
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: you have anger built out, what do you have to do.

1324
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: You have to keep it in, you have to go

1325
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: into your room and not really let it out. But

1326
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: when you come to this game right here, you can

1327
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: let out any first ration you want. You get paid

1328
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: to hit someone as hard as you can. So that's

1329
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: what I love most about this game. Well, we're certainly

1330
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 1: gonna like that Browns fans, as you probably have already seen,

1331
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: or intense. They are passionate, and you come from a

1332
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: very passionate fan base in Kansas City or Head gets rocking.

1333
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: First Energy is going to be rocking for you as well.

1334
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: The two things real quick. One, your teammates, I know

1335
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: that Deshaun reach out to you. I know Miles Garrett

1336
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: reach out to What was it like to kind of

1337
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: have the stars of this football team welcome you in

1338
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: with open arms. I mean, it was amazing. When you're

1339
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: leaders of a team reach out to the guys that's

1340
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 1: coming in, it shows that they're great leaders. I mean

1341
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: they're willing to welcome anyone that comes into this locker room.

1342
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: And I just feel like guys like that, when you

1343
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: have those guys in your locker room, just makes things

1344
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: so much better. And I love to be around guys

1345
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: like that. You already talked about how you've liked Cleveland.

1346
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if Travis Kelsey told you anything since

1347
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: you've come here. He's a Cleveland guy and you may

1348
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: get a chance to see him. But what's something you

1349
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: want the fans of the Cleveland Browns to know about

1350
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: you when they look out there and they see Thornhill

1351
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: when they say that in the back of your jersey,

1352
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: what do you want them to be thinking about you

1353
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: as a player, as a man, or anything at all

1354
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: that you want them to know. How a broad here

1355
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: for a reason, and the reason that I'm here is

1356
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: to get us to the Super Bowls. That's simple. With

1357
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: ball and there at Thornhill's going to get it. Just

1358
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: believe in Thornhill. I love it well. I'm pleasure to

1359
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: meet you. Congratulations and welcome to the cleveand Browns. Thank you.

1360
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, the Cleveland brown safety one Thornhill. Looking forward

1361
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: to seeing him lace him up this fall and looking

1362
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: forward to talking with him more as the offseason moves

1363
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: forward and we get into the workout phases and then

1364
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: OTAs and then mini camp in early June and then

1365
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: back for real in mid July. We'll take a time

1366
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: out when we come back more of our exclusive interviews.

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura goes one on one with the great Charles

1368
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Davis from NFL Networking CBS Sports. That's when Cleveland Browns Daily,

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: presented by Bally Bett continues on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett, coming

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily. Jason Gibbs here, we're

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: playing some of the some of the interviews that haven't

1374
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: made the show for the last month because, frankly, we've

1375
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of content and a lot coming from

1376
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: the NFL Combine that was already a month ago. Hard

1377
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: to believe, but one of our favorite interviews and favorite

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: moments and a day that's worthy of this, especially if

1379
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: you're looking to get into the broadcast industry. Here's some

1380
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: advice from the Great Charles Davis, CBS Sports and NFL

1381
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: Network with our own Nathan Zigura from just a month

1382
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: ago of the NFL Combine. This is a real treat

1383
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: for me. Somebody that I look up to, certainly as

1384
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: a mentor and an idol in the commentary business. That

1385
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: the Great Charles Davis joins us. Now, how are you see?

1386
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: It's great to see you. I'm doing well. Thank you

1387
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: very much. It's always great to sit with you. And

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: congratulations I've finishing your first year in the booth, and

1389
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: thank you having a good time. And you know, I

1390
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: appreciate your very very kind words. But we'll have to

1391
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: set your sights a little bit higher. We gotta we

1392
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: gotta jump you up, get you to somebody really really good.

1393
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: We'll do that from now on. That is you appreciate.

1394
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate your humility. But you listen, you helped me

1395
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: so much when just kind of talking about the process,

1396
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: the prepperration and you hooking me able to the guy

1397
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: get my boards done right and all of that, and

1398
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: it was it was fun and getting to our relationship

1399
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: over the last few years. You know, get to help

1400
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: you out with some Browns game. You helped me. You

1401
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: help me in a big way. You know that because

1402
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: being able to go and get ready for a game.

1403
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: No one knows a team better than the people who

1404
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: are around the team, right, who who are embedded in

1405
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: a sense? And I hope I've been doing it the

1406
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: right way. My goal is always when I talk with

1407
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: you or anyone else's around teams, i'm preparing for a game.

1408
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for the secrets. I'm not asking for

1409
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: you to violate any confidences because you are with that team.

1410
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: All I want to know is who do we think

1411
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: is gonna play on That's right? Who will be on

1412
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: the board on Sunday so I can be prepared for

1413
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: that Because it's just the way things have changed since

1414
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: COVID for all of us, right, And I like it

1415
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: the way the league has changed how a team is.

1416
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, it used to be so restrictive, didn't it

1417
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: about how many guys. I just love the fact that

1418
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: we have more people available. I'd love to see the

1419
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: rosters expanded, but I know the owners are like the

1420
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: owners are like um it's not your money due no

1421
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: one asked you. All I'm saying is who do I

1422
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: think will be on the field on Sunday, so I

1423
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: can prepare and do the best job I can for

1424
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: that team, for that person. Our our team been doing

1425
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: coverage and I appreciate your help. Well, listen, we didn't

1426
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: get to cross paths this year. But one of the

1427
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: best tips that Jim Down even I know, very strange

1428
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: that our play by play guy gave me was watched

1429
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: the TV copy of the opponent from the week before,

1430
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: even the prior two weeks. So you get to hear

1431
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 1: what they had told those commentators and you can pick

1432
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: up some nuggets. So I got to listen to you

1433
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot because you called our opponents the week before

1434
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: many many times. How wild is that? But I didn't

1435
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: get I didn't get see it. But maybe this year

1436
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: we will get to see each other. I certainly hope,

1437
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: so I look forward to it. And the other part

1438
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: is what we gain from local knowledge national does, doesn't

1439
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: you know? If we gain it there when we're saying it,

1440
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: it's fresh for another set of another audience. Because if

1441
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: you're not in I'm being a Browns fan, or if

1442
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: we're doing any you know, whoever your team is, you're

1443
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna hear what you hear. You're like, God, of course

1444
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: we all know that, but everyone else listening may not

1445
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: know that information. So we try and we try and

1446
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: glean as much as we can too. So in my

1447
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: with me, I'm with the Browns, every game's a Browns

1448
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: game in my audience, our Browns fans period. And you

1449
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: kind of brought that up there. But what I appreciate

1450
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: about what you're able to do when you listen to

1451
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: a game is that there are a lot of times

1452
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: when national guys will do games and they just it's

1453
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: clear they don't know how to pronounce anybody's name. They

1454
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: don't know. It would be as if they drop somebody

1455
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: in to call the game. But you make it feel

1456
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: like almost that you've worked with the Browns or I

1457
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: listened to you had a few Steelers and Steelers Patriots

1458
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: think earlier this year, may it sound like you worked

1459
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: for the Steelers and the Patriots, Which I think that

1460
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: eliminates the one big gripe about the way that the

1461
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: system is set up right now right, and so that

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01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: I think is one of the traits. Thank you. I

1463
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and it's something I work at. I'm I

1464
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: know I'm not one hundred percent, but we try our

1465
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: best to get it right. And I think that all

1466
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: of us who are in the business, if you've ever

1467
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: encountered a family member when you've been mispronounced their loved

1468
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 1: one's name, you don't want you don't want that anymore.

1469
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: Plus it's just a straight respect for that person. You're

1470
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 1: trying your best, and when I do get it wrong,

1471
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: I feel horrible and I want to get it right

1472
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: the next time. And I think if you do it

1473
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: with effort, if you try your best, and they know

1474
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: you're trying your best, like Albert Oh, the tight End,

1475
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: and that I've heard of his name pronounced I don't

1476
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: know how many different ways, and we every time we're asking, so,

1477
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: last I've gotten was okway Boonam, and then the next

1478
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: se no, no no, no, no, it's okay boonom, okay boonam,

1479
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: and so so you're trying to you're trying your best

1480
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: to get it and hopefully I can get to him

1481
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: and say, okay, can I can you give it to me,

1482
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: and hopefully I have it. But for Indianapolis, Bobby okaaraka

1483
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: this year, right, that's just third. That's just third. And

1484
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: when I see Bobby, I'm I say, dude, that's the

1485
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: third pronunciation we've had on you, because it was okaree

1486
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: gang and then before that it was I remember, but

1487
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: I remember saying to I and Ego, my partner, I said,

1488
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: this is like the third. He goes, I believe this

1489
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: is the third. But whatever you want to be called.

1490
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: We want to just try and do it the right way.

1491
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: We've had guys who have changed and I do our

1492
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: pronunciation guide. I'm the audio of our own pronunciation guide,

1493
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: and we've had guys who have changed it in the

1494
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: middle of season, Tyrod Trod and Joku Joku. I just

1495
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: want to know and I want to try and do

1496
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: it the way that you was the chief. This is

1497
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: how old I am. Tony Dorset, the great running back. Yeah,

1498
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: prior to his senior year at Pittsburgh, it was Tony Dorset.

1499
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: Dorsett does have a little more pennoy in Dorset with

1500
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: the punching the Dorset. And I played for his college coach,

1501
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: Johnny Majors. He coached coach Tony and you know Tony,

1502
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: that was his baby. Now okay, it was all time

1503
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: page Sure to the day coach Majors died, he called

1504
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: him Dorset because he never had that doorset. If you

1505
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: go back to New Jersey, where Joe Thiseman's family is from,

1506
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: and you asked for the Thiseman family, someone will say

1507
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: you mean the Thisemans because it was Thisemen and then

1508
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: his sidea Notre Dame Roger Valdisaria, the great Sports of

1509
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: Race director, said we're gonna change it to thisman because

1510
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: it rhymes with Heisman, and they were trying to get

1511
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: the Heisman trophy and he became Joe Thisman and never

1512
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: looked back. You go back to that home area, they're like,

1513
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: can I see theismans because that's the proper pronunciation. So

1514
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: we try and as I said, Ian as a master,

1515
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean he nails it. Evan Washburn, my partner on

1516
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: the team, he nails it. I'm trying my best to

1517
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: get into their category. You're doing just fine. Just one

1518
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: thing for all the people listening, what would be the

1519
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: number one piece of advice you'd give somebody who wanted

1520
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: to get into the booth and call games. I can

1521
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: only do it for my perspective because I was worth

1522
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: enough to have played college football. I didn't make it

1523
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I was one of those like

1524
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: this is like me doing NFL games is like an

1525
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: alien dropped out of this guy. This isn't supposed to happen.

1526
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: And prior to Kirk Herbstreet doing Amazon this year, if

1527
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: you take away what I call the super specials, Dennis

1528
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: Miller right, um, you know when Rush Limbaugh did it,

1529
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: but he didn't do Bay and do it in the

1530
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,480
Speaker 1: booth was Dennis Miller and who else came into Tony Kornheiser,

1531
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: guys like that. I called them the super specials because

1532
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: they were true outliers. I was the only one doing

1533
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: NFL games. It hadn't played in the NFL, hadn't been

1534
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: an exactly, hadn't been a coach. Then Kirk came along

1535
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,879
Speaker 1: this year and joined me in that. And I remember

1536
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: going to my first game. I was nervous as hack.

1537
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: It was Carolina Philadelphia, and I kind of mentioned to

1538
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: coach Andy Reid as a coach, you know, I hadn't

1539
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: playing the league and coaching the league, how it was?

1540
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: How am I going to be received? He looked me

1541
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: dead and yeah, and he goes, if you know what

1542
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You'll be fine. If you'll know what

1543
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about, you'll hear about it. And that was it.

1544
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: That was it, and so hopefully people think that I am.

1545
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: So you ask my question, know what you're talking about,

1546
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is know the history

1547
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: of your sport. Know how what you're doing fits into

1548
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: that history of the sport, recent history, long history, all

1549
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: of those things. Know the rule book as much as possible,

1550
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: because most schemes that we do, you're not gonna have

1551
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: a territory that you can rely on. And fans, as

1552
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: I've discovered, if they don't think you know the rule book,

1553
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: they come for you because you're supposed to know that.

1554
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: So my goal is and a gene knows this. And

1555
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: when I was at the place out West before that,

1556
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: I would tell Mike Prayer and Dean Blandino, my goal

1557
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: is for you to confirm what I say. That's my goal, right.

1558
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna always get it, but I don't want

1559
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: to be. Hey, we're gonna find out what the rule?

1560
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: Why am I here? Okay? So know the rules on

1561
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: all that. Know the players just what you talked about before,

1562
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: players names, Know the backgrounds, know all of that, and

1563
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: I will leave them with this. Have the passion that

1564
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: you're not going to be stopped. Because if you have that,

1565
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 1: you have a chance. If you don't have the passion

1566
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: about that, then you're not. You have no chance. Because

1567
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of us diving in all the time.

1568
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 1: Who wants it, who will work hard enough of their craft,

1569
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: who will hone their craft, who will think about it, morning,

1570
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: noon and night, who will do the research, who will

1571
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: do the past. All these things have to go into it.

1572
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,759
Speaker 1: But you gotta want it, want want it, want it period,

1573
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I but that's what we want out

1574
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. And the last thing I would

1575
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: say is, you know, when you're going through all that

1576
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: process and you're doing all those things, what are your

1577
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: relationships with people? That's what's all about. That's what it

1578
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: all comes down to. Because the people who are doing

1579
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: all this for us now, who set up all this,

1580
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: who are filming us right now, who are doing all

1581
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: those things, those are our teammates. They are not anything else.

1582
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: They are your colleague. Oh yeah, And I'm always flabbergasted

1583
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: when I see people they don't do that. You're right,

1584
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: because relationships in every aspect of it, in terms of

1585
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: you want to never stop learning, right about the sound,

1586
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: learners with coaches, players, all that, everyone takes its big relationship.

1587
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: I could never be on the air without Gibbe. See.

1588
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: But you know that, and it's wonderful and it probably

1589
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: blows you away. And you run into people in our

1590
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: business and you're like, they're doing well with the people

1591
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: that they work. It requires no effort to be nice,

1592
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: no effort, and we try our best. That's all we

1593
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: can do. That's right. Hopefully you won't catch me on

1594
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: that bad day when you go he's such a jerk,

1595
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: that Davis, that day is not coming. You always have

1596
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: a smile and you're on your face and in your voice,

1597
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: and that's why it's always it's a pleasure. Let's talk

1598
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: about something really important now, got it? Yellowstone series, Yellowstone

1599
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three, eighteen eighty three. What's your ranking of

1600
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: the three shows? Well, yellowstonees the heart because that's where

1601
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: it all began for me. But I really enjoyed eighteen

1602
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: eighty three because of the different perspective, the beauty in

1603
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: the grandeur of what we were showing, because remember that

1604
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: was America somewhat unspoiled at that time, right, so we

1605
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't have urban sprawl at that time. So

1606
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 1: so that was amazing. And I remember thinking to myself,

1607
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: my god, that you know, there's still losing lives and

1608
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: the whole thing like the regular Yellowstone And I thought,

1609
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: why wouldn't the eighteen eighties there was a lot more

1610
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: brutal time than now. And then the nineteen twenty three

1611
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: has started, and as Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren, I

1612
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: am just like, this is this is incredible, incredible, And

1613
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: I did see where the start. I wish I knew

1614
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: her name. I hate it. And the Native American woman

1615
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: who's in the real school, and she was saying that

1616
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: there's been some criticism about how brutal the conditions and

1617
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: how and she's like, this is real and by the way,

1618
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: maybe people should be reminded of what my people went through. Yeah,

1619
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: And I thought that was one of the greatest answers.

1620
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: It's tough to watch, but it reminds me of us

1621
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: as people that we continue to evolve. Oh yeah, we

1622
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: all can's okay, let's let's make sure we do it

1623
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: and treat each other the right way. But I just

1624
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: love the shows. Um Taylor Sheridan, he keeps getting people

1625
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: and then all his other offshoots Tulsa King was slid

1626
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 1: stallone right with Jeremy Renner. Wow, and people are signing

1627
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: up wanting to be a part of these franchises. I mean,

1628
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: when you get Helen Mirren and Harrison Ford, when you

1629
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: get Tim mcgrawan, Faith Hill, Kevin Costner headlining, you're doing

1630
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: something right. I'm a big Spencer fan and I learned

1631
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: to never challenge a professional game hunter to a duel

1632
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: on a boat, right, Don't do it. Don't idea. It's

1633
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: a really bad idea, pecially when you've been beating three

1634
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: times and he's like, look, I'm not gonna kill you

1635
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: unless you forced me to do it. But that's what

1636
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. A fight. Take what it's gonna be.

1637
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: So there I am. I'm lucky enough to work with CBS.

1638
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: Paramount is our company, and please so one hear this,

1639
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: hear this. I want to at least go out and

1640
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: see how it's done. That's all I'm asking. I'm a

1641
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: huge fan, just just want to go see and if

1642
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: somehow I wander into a camera shout or two, who

1643
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: am I to complain, although once I do it, they'll

1644
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: probably ban me from What are keeping my eyes field?

1645
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: When when when I wandered through that second time? Get

1646
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: him out of here? He's done, He's done? All right?

1647
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: What do you like so much about the combined? What

1648
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: are you focused on this week? I'm just what I

1649
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: like about it is it's a it's a reunion for

1650
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: all of us. And when we had COVID and we

1651
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: couldn't see each other, couldn't be around Hena coudn't touch

1652
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: each other, it was hard. Yeah, because we talk about relationship.

1653
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: We all have relationships all around this league, and we're

1654
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: forming new relationship with these youngsters coming in because who

1655
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: knows it's going to come to the Browns, who knows

1656
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: it's going to go? All those things kick in, So

1657
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: we're starting that process one more time when we're doing it.

1658
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: Plus we're greeting old friends again. That part is wonderful.

1659
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: The other part is I love seeing who emerges out

1660
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: of here. Then maybe we haven't talked about as much.

1661
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: And what was interesting is Isaiah Checko with Kansas City

1662
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: the running Back, had such a great year for them

1663
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: and was so pivotal in what they did, and was wonderful.

1664
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: In the Super Bowl, he blew away the combine yet

1665
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: still went in the seventh round. So you just don't know.

1666
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those that like, oh God, I

1667
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: want every great story to be the underdog rising. I

1668
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: like seeing the people who are the top of the

1669
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: food chain confirmed their greatness. I like seeing Aidan Hutchinson

1670
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: last year be the number two pick overall and be

1671
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: really good as rookie year. I like seeing Trey Von

1672
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: Walker be a good player at the top of the board.

1673
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: Wasn't as good as Hutchinson was good a Sauce Gardener,

1674
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: but he was no bust. So I don't mind that.

1675
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 1: I love seeing that. I don't like to see people fail.

1676
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I want all the but but we know

1677
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen for everyone. Course know that.

1678
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I just see no reason

1679
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: to be like, well, I hope this guy bust and

1680
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: this is terrible. No. I want them all to have

1681
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: their opportunity and then the best are going to make it,

1682
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: whether they're seventh round or undrafted free agent or that

1683
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: first round of confirming that he was great. Kasauce Gardener

1684
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: was pretty good, but tariqu Woland, the note second best

1685
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: corner is a rookie last year, he wasn't fifth round

1686
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: at the Universe of Texas and Antonio. The story's everywhere

1687
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,839
Speaker 1: a unique size speed combination. If former receiver they flipped

1688
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: over the corner. Yeah, and I think you and I

1689
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: have talked about it. My thing right now, as the

1690
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: receivers are getting taller again, they're longer, more angular, they

1691
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: can run. If you are the third receiver on your

1692
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: team catching fifteen balls a year, get over on the

1693
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: other side of the field and learn how to back

1694
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: pedal because you might be the first corner right chance

1695
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, we got a big guy on art

1696
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: in our secondary last year, m j Emerson who had

1697
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: a very nice rookie season where it's not about him.

1698
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: You flip them over and turn it. Woland was a

1699
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: receiver flipped at the end of his career utsay and

1700
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: hasn't looked bad. And the good news about it for

1701
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: them the money is just as good. The money for

1702
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: money's real good. Yeah, because the game and name of

1703
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: the game is throwing it and throwing it and catching it. Right.

1704
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: You know what was the old Bear Bryant protect arn rush?

1705
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: There protect arn rush there. I love that, all right,

1706
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: Levia with this one, just a couple of Browns things.

1707
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: Number one full offseason with Deshaun Watson. I'll see those

1708
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: six games. What are you kind of expecting for the Browns?

1709
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: And then is there anybody as you kind of look

1710
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: through this combine, maybe at receiver, maybe at the edge,

1711
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: that you'd like to see wearing the Brown and orange

1712
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: next year? Look? So many different opportunities, so many different options.

1713
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know Deshaun Watson, Clemson guy doesn't

1714
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: have to match up that way. But these Ohio State receivers,

1715
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: they just keep pouring them out and it'll be interest

1716
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: to see how people look at Jackson Smith and Jig.

1717
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: But because he should go early, I think you should

1718
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: think so he's the best route runner I think probably

1719
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: after the receivers in the draft. But that stopwatch is

1720
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. And I'm wondering when he's gonna

1721
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: run his forty because he's coming off the hamstring and

1722
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to pop in another hammy.

1723
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: Is he gonna run it? Is he not gonna run it?

1724
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: Or we just got to take it off of tape.

1725
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he is a flyer taking it off

1726
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: the top. But I threw it to him every time

1727
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: I could because he's a gun makes him right. Geordan

1728
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: Addison is a slot guy from USC He's a terrific player,

1729
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: not a super big and then stout or anything like that.

1730
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: But you know, we have a all through. And I

1731
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: think for anyone who thought last year Deshaun Watson would

1732
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: come back from everything he's come back from in terms

1733
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: of not playing, then then then we have this. Then

1734
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: we have that he's just gonna be the Deshaun Watson

1735
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: that they signed that was folly. Now he has a

1736
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 1: chance to do everything. Plus the story has been told.

1737
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: We don't have to keep rehashing it. It's done the

1738
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: k I assume the cases are overall. That he's got

1739
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: his offseason. Now he goes OTAs, gets minicamp, chance to

1740
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: get with all his people. He should look closer to

1741
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,440
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson that Cleveland signed and wanted and expected.

1742
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: And you know, however, people want to look at a

1743
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: view it. Guess what we're talking about football right now.

1744
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: We're talking about him coming back. This is his chance

1745
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: to get back to being a football player and an

1746
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: elite one. Yeah, and that's why he was signed. And

1747
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: by the way, it wasn't just Cleveland who wanted to

1748
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: sign him. Right And listen, if we get back there,

1749
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a lot more games with you, So

1750
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that we'd come to Cleveland. Thank

1751
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: you so much for the Thank you for the time.

1752
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Great to see you as always, great to see you.

1753
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: Really appreciate all right, great Charles Davis. Be back more.

1754
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet here

1755
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

1756
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1757
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:28,320
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1758
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: brought to you by bally Bet. Jason Gibbs with you tomorrow.

1759
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: We are off. Matt Fontana and Danny Cunningham and Nick

1760
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: Poulis will join you from one to three. The crew

1761
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: starts to get back together on Monday, Bow and I'll

1762
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: be back. Zigura joins on Tuesday. One final segment here

1763
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's an annual tradition. It's Kyle Brandt from

1764
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,919
Speaker 1: NFL Network and Good Morning Football breaking down this year's coaches.

1765
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,480
Speaker 1: Photo from the owners meetings in Arizona. It's time. Everybody.

1766
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: You know, there was an era in this world and

1767
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: you didn't get photographs immediately. You couldn't just take a

1768
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: picture and the say I like it, I don't like it.

1769
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: You had to take your film. You go to someplace

1770
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: called the photo Matt and you wait several days, and

1771
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: you get doubles and you get matts, and they're better

1772
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: that way, and you can up to, oh, I like

1773
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: this one, I don't like this one. It's fun to

1774
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: wait for photographs, and we wait an entire year for

1775
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: the best photograph of the year, and it is here,

1776
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, from that photo Matt. We call the

1777
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: annual league meeting. Bring it up, bring up, you love it,

1778
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: we love it. And I could go any number of directions.

1779
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: I could point out House Stefanski's dunking on everybody with

1780
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: the Jordan's McDermott's got on his buster, Brown's going a

1781
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: piano recit. Or I can say that Matti Ebraflus is

1782
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: sneaky hot and a tight sweater, and who knew the

1783
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: flus is loose. Let's hand out some awards. They'd like

1784
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,440
Speaker 1: to hand out some hardware here. Let's start with the

1785
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: Dons don't wear shorts awards. You remember Carmine Lupertazi said

1786
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,480
Speaker 1: it to Tony Soprano, Dons don't wear shorts. They do here, baby,

1787
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 1: they wear shorts too, They wear whenever they want. Here

1788
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: we have thirteen combined Super Bowls and zero pants. Imagine

1789
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: sitting next to somebody on a plane and both you

1790
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: guys have short sign just going leg to leg for

1791
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and the leg hair is going. There's

1792
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 1: definitely sweating and if I don't it's almost like Belichick

1793
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: has his foot in a slight power move over. This

1794
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: MoCCA cent or whatever Andy Reid is wearing. I love it.

1795
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because Jude and your coach, he'll take

1796
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: a year off from the photo. He'll take a half

1797
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: decade off. Belichick showing up in the photo is like

1798
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 1: a comet, like you don't know when it's ever gonna

1799
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: come back. And he's here, and he's usually front and center.

1800
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: This is Jack Nicholson at the Oscars back in the day.

1801
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: It's spikily at the Knicks game, but in years past

1802
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: it hasn't always been that way. A little bit of

1803
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: an ords and store you always see the Tommy Bahamas

1804
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: Sheek and all that. This is back in twenty nineteen,

1805
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: next to Flow and in front of Patricia. Times have changed,

1806
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: but he said and said, he's like the lazy Susan

1807
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table. Go back to the

1808
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: last one. Though he used to be kind of like

1809
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: over to the side. He wasn't always. That's twenty eighteen.

1810
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 1: Standing in front of pat Shermer and next to Bill O'Brien,

1811
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: he was way every I like it better here. I

1812
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: like him right in the middle where he belongs. Those

1813
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: guys get the dons don't wear shorts to wear. But

1814
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: let's get in quickly to what I call the honorary

1815
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: Annual Bruce Arians SPF Award for the Least sun Protected

1816
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Person table. What are you doing? Are you kidding? This

1817
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: thing is crispy up top right here. I want to

1818
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: put this right house. Just he needs like one of

1819
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: those parasols or something like that. The future is brighton

1820
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,879
Speaker 1: New York and so is the sun in Arizona. Dames,

1821
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: you're a risk taker. You go for the two point conversion.

1822
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 1: Not here. This sun cooked you harder than Daniel Jones agent. Okay,

1823
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: you don't want to go like that expensive, really expensive.

1824
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: He looks more toasted than Shanahan does over here, Shanty,

1825
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: I feel you, dude. Your quarterback has hurt every single year.

1826
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: You're just cleaning out that mini bar. I would drink

1827
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: the mini kaloo a. Two of my quarterbacks kept getting hurt. Shanny,

1828
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 1: You've been an honorary member of these in the past.

1829
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Somebody get him a hat. Somebody get him a cap.

1830
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: I know it's on no cap. Get him a cap.

1831
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: I like the shades. This is gonna be third degree

1832
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: at some point. Moving on the boarding group, c Award,

1833
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: Let me show you these bros right here, Bang bang bang.

1834
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: These bros are on a flight to Vegas for a

1835
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: bachelor party. They're in row thirty seven thousand, Wait the floor.

1836
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: He's got his power shirt on. He's all stressed. Look

1837
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: at the stress in that face because he's got to

1838
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 1: figure out how to get twelve guys into a club

1839
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 1: that night. No women, just all twelve guys. Sean Payton's

1840
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: over here making sure everybody gets enough water. And Sean

1841
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 1: McBain's already blasted. He gave up both armrests. He doesn't

1842
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: give a damn. He's got the shades as hey man,

1843
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: when a drink girl come by asked for another vodka

1844
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: and vodka, Sean, there's no drink er. We'll still at

1845
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: the gate. She hasn't come by yet. What are you doing?

1846
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: He's leaning back with his watch and his shades and

1847
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: an entire half jar of palm and make a perfect

1848
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: little wigwam on top of that head and just leaning back.

1849
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sleep for a little while. Tell me when

1850
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: we get there. This is a great trio. I want

1851
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: to hang with them next. The Kyle brand definitely owns

1852
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: this outfit award. Let's go to Brandon Stage. Yeah, guys, listen,

1853
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to do some damage in the a

1854
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: FC West. He already put a beat down on the

1855
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Banana Republic Staley, I got you. This is what you

1856
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: call the Luxury Touch performance Polo at seventy dollars right

1857
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: now Bananapublic dot com. See how the genes are distressed

1858
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: or distressed down there like the Chargers in the second half.

1859
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: It happens, and I understand. Look, coach, I love you.

1860
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: You want to add some new wrinkles to the offense,

1861
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: not the outfit. I would review the analytics of an

1862
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 1: ironing board coach. It's a big photograph. You're next to

1863
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: mister crispi here and mister piano recital. Here. We can

1864
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 1: get a couple of these out. You get a steamer,

1865
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: you hang it in the shower, you run it really hot.

1866
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: There's lots of ways to do that. I love you, Staley. Guy.

1867
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: He's got that perfect two inch zip down here. He

1868
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: doesn't go low plunging like mister Christie, but he's got

1869
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: it just absolutely broken. I respect the Banana Republic cheek.

1870
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: We gotta get those wrinkles out, buddy, Staley. I love

1871
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: you now. I like this one too. The needs their

1872
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: own Netflix show award. Here we go these two guys

1873
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 1: side by damn side. I'm just gonna try this because

1874
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: it looks so cool, and I think it if you

1875
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: just hang him like that. I mean, are you telling

1876
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: me that Tomlin and Bowls is not the coolest cop

1877
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: show on Netflix. They're involved, they're unveiling a conspiracy that

1878
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: goes all the way to the top. Oh both. But

1879
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 1: he's he's seeing things, things, things you don't want to see,

1880
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: things you can't unsee. I just it's supposed to be

1881
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: a good cop, bad cop. But I think they're both

1882
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: bad cop. And if this is not worth ten episodes

1883
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: on Netflix, I don't know what is. I love it

1884
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: there between Dan Campbell, who I can't believe just showed

1885
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: up kind of normal, and Arthur Smith, who appears he's

1886
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: never been in a photograph of his life. And here

1887
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: we have Tomlin and Bold. It's coming to streaming soon,

1888
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: It's coming to Netflix. Next episode, binge that thing. Let

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01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: us know. Um, this is a great one. Now let's

1890
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: move on to what I call prom night Dad award.

1891
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Here you go, Oh, you show up to pick up

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01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: your date, walk in, You got little corsage, you got

1893
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: your tuxedo. McArthur says, sit down, Son looks absolutely miserable.

1894
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: He's wearing fifty pounds of a brick slacks, shirt blazer. Mike,

1895
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,839
Speaker 1: we got a guy right here going Bear sleeps dressing

1896
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: down a little bit. But I feel like the prom

1897
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: day comes in and he's sitting there in his chair

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01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy's got a pocket knife out and he's

1899
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 1: peeling an apple and just eating slices right off the blade.

1900
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny. You know what's funny is

1901
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: the prom night scenario. I feel like gannon, he's the

1902
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: date right here next time? See that guy that's the

1903
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: prom day? Anything knows what's up? And McCarthy's like, son,

1904
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: what are your intentions with my daughter? Again, it's like,

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01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: what aren't my intentions with your daughter? Sir? Let me

1906
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 1: just get the hell out of here. Is that the

1907
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: date right there? Because if you're not careful, let's move

1908
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: on to the next award. The date might be this guy.

1909
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: We might just have to go. My chefs go one

1910
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: over right here. Oh yeah, I'm here to take out

1911
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: your daughter. I call this the twenty thousand dollars out

1912
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: for the award. Mike, what the hell is this? You

1913
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: have some sort of blazer over a sweater over a

1914
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: zip up. You got the watch that they make knockoffs

1915
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: off on the museum steps in New York. You got

1916
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 1: the white slacks. He's looking over here. Guys, this is

1917
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: a football coach. He develops a power run game. He

1918
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: looks like the guy you follow on Twitter you went

1919
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: to high school with who tweets big things come in

1920
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, right, And then he sells his

1921
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: sock company for fifty million dollars. It's Uber for socks.

1922
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 1: That's McDaniel right there, and I know you're trying to

1923
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: get it so old white as a statement. I know

1924
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to represent Miami and the culture. Like, how

1925
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: do I say this, Mike? You look like you should

1926
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: be on Scarface's desk. This is an incredible thing he's

1927
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: got going here, and he's looking at the fancy. He's

1928
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: just stone coat handsomeness right next to him. That is fantastic,

1929
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, never disappoint How about this one? I hate

1930
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: this one. This is we don't have an in memorium here.

1931
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: We would never do that. We have the Too Cool

1932
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 1: for School Award. You guys, first three coaches, missing Bike Sirianni,

1933
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: who I expected to be the MVP, and then big

1934
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: old Braves in the parts. I know we don't know

1935
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: where they are, so I'm just gonna guess. I'm gonna

1936
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: guess Braves is in the fitness center on the hip

1937
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: sled with a big old hammer dip in. We got

1938
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: Syrinnie who's still streaming at the TV about the holding

1939
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: penalty on Bradbury and Frank Reich is walf of Anthony

1940
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: richardson tap and being like should we do it that

1941
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: would be nuts. We got the number one overall. Pick

1942
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: I miss Cliff, I miss them a lot. But guys,

1943
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: these are not even here. Let's go back to the

1944
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: main shot. Why did you know? Are you at the bar?

1945
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: Are you on the phone? Are you talking to rap sheets?

1946
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 1: Let us know? This is the picture? Is there anything

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Speaker 1: we missed? Thanks to Anthony Poisell. Thanks to Nick Paulus.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs. Thanks for listening to this edition of

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