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Speaker 1: production from this. Because I got all this equipment in

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Speaker 1: my apartment and I'm sitting around half the time doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: So I've got a bunch of questions in front of me.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. We're gonna span all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Some of you want to talk about rules, some of

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Speaker 1: of it. Let's get it started here. Zach on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Going back to your comments about Texas and how their

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Speaker 1: athletic director situation has developed. Are there any other programs

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Speaker 1: just one key change from taking steps forward? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think so, Zach. Now, what he's talking about is the

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Speaker 1: other night I did a segment on Lake Kick Live.

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Speaker 1: people close to Texas have given me behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: me much like how LSU insiders were talking about when

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Speaker 1: Scott Woodward came aboard and replaced Joe Oliva. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying, as some people suggested in the comments section,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Scott Woodward after being in town twelve

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Speaker 1: be friction you can't afford to If you're competing against

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Speaker 1: So I think Texas internally has gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: their mess solved. Now we find out, as I said

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Speaker 1: just him getting the job done or not. But Zach asks,

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Speaker 1: situation that Zach described. Moving on, Trevor on Twitter, I

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Speaker 1: So I remember how much I paid. I paid three

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Speaker 1: The first year Florida beats Bama, the second year Bama

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Speaker 1: the starting position at Tennessee's quarterback, will there be a battle?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's proven himself enough to hold the job. No, Edward,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's proven himself enough to hold the job.

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Speaker 1: There's no quarterback on that team that has proven themselves

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Speaker 1: I'll watch the late games because I would rather sit

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Speaker 1: in a stadium than sit still on the interstate. So

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Speaker 1: that's my game day routine. Marsha Bogden on Twitter. When

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Speaker 1: I was watching the show the other night, you talked

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Speaker 1: about Florida and how they have a couple of good

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Speaker 1: recruiters and not much after that, And I think I

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Speaker 1: can also apply that to Auburn. I know they're surrounded,

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Speaker 1: but better recruiting teams like Georgia, Alabama, and LSU, just

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Speaker 1: to name a few, make it hard on them. Do

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Speaker 1: you think Auburn is low on great recruiters or just

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Speaker 1: surrounded by teams better at it. I don't think Auburn's

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Speaker 1: recruiting poorly at all. I do think this is the

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Speaker 1: toughest job in America. Given the marriage of pay attention

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Speaker 1: to this part now, given the marriage of expectations and reality,

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Speaker 1: I think the Auburn job is the hardest in America.

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Speaker 1: The reason I would say it's harder than our and

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Speaker 1: software example, is because people at Arkansas do not expect

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Speaker 1: to win the SEC next year. People at Auburn do,

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Speaker 1: and so the task is still the same. For Auburn.

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Speaker 1: They got to play Obama every year. They got Georgia

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Speaker 1: every year, on top of LSU and Texas A and

449
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Speaker 1: M and the like and so, and they played Florida

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Speaker 1: last year. So I don't think Auburn's recruiting poorly at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think they're over achieving. Bogden, I want

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Speaker 1: you to consider this if it were ten years ago

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Speaker 1: and you're just looking at the year twenty twenty through

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Speaker 1: a fifty thousand foot perspective, a fifty thousand foot faraway lens,

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Speaker 1: and I were to tell you Nick Saban is still

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Speaker 1: going to be at Alabama. He will have won like

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Speaker 1: three or four more national championships. Georgia will not have

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Speaker 1: Mark Ritt anymore. They'll have Kirby Smart. They will be humming.

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Speaker 1: LSU will have ed Or Zaran of all people, but

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Speaker 1: he will have just won a national championship. So they'll

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Speaker 1: be on fire in their own home state, and teams

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Speaker 1: like Ohio State and Alabama and Clemson will be raiding

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Speaker 1: South Florida for talent. What did I just tell you?

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Speaker 1: I told you University of Alabama is still a power. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be tough for you to recruit in state.

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Speaker 1: I told you. The Atlanta metro area where you go

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Speaker 1: for a lot of talent, will have Georgia in it

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Speaker 1: to deal with. At their very height, Georgia's recruiting better

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Speaker 1: than they ever have. Louisiana is a place in the

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Speaker 1: past that Auburn really did some business them. Well, you

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Speaker 1: got LSU winning a national championship, so they're really tough

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Speaker 1: to contend with down there. And then you got South Florida,

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Speaker 1: where Auburn has done some business in the past too,

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Speaker 1: and yet you got everyone rating South Florida. So my

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Speaker 1: point is, if I were to tell you that ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, you'd probably say we're going to struggle to

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Speaker 1: the top twenty, aren't we? And yet there's Auburn every

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Speaker 1: year sitting right around at six to twelve range and

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Speaker 1: the recruiting rankings, I think they're doing a really good job. Again,

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Speaker 1: think about this too, what's the huge advantage at Auburn.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a unique tradition unlike any other program here.

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Speaker 1: There are teams down here with more national championships, more

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Speaker 1: draft picks. So they're not selling a huge trophy case.

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Speaker 1: They're not selling the NFL Draft more than Alabama can

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Speaker 1: or LSU can. They're not bad in any of these departments.

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you think about it. Where's their big edge.

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Speaker 1: Their facilities aren't better than the top programs down here,

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Speaker 1: and yet they're still hanging with the top programs. They're

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Speaker 1: not out recruiting Alabama, but I'll tell you this, they're

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Speaker 1: recruiting better than programs like Florida over a four year stretch.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're up until recently they were recruiting right

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Speaker 1: on par with or better than Texas A and M.

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Speaker 1: A and M had a good class this last cycle,

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Speaker 1: but they're recruiting comparable to A and M. Think about

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Speaker 1: the advantages that those programs should have over Auburn. So

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing a pretty darn good job. Go

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Speaker 1: Tigers nine on YouTube. If the hype out of Baton

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Speaker 1: Rouge is true about Miles Brennan, do you see LSU

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Speaker 1: contending for another national championship. Well, it depends on what

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Speaker 1: hype we're talking about. Do we believe And this is

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Speaker 1: a radical opinion, O, there aren't very many people out

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Speaker 1: there who think what Joe Burrow just did is duplicable.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there may be a fringe, a minority fringe

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Speaker 1: of people who think that, now that we've got the

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Speaker 1: offense figured out, every quarterback should do that. Well, of

506
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Speaker 1: course we know that's lunacy. So you're not asking that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that, and most of our listeners, who

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Speaker 1: I know to be pretty sharp, aren't thinking that either.

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Speaker 1: Will we get something comparable loosely comparable production wise, at

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Speaker 1: least in the same neighborhood. I think that's even hard.

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Speaker 1: But are you going to get high level quarterback play

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Speaker 1: that I think it's reasonable to expect now, whether it

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Speaker 1: comes to fruition, that's what you're asking, because you are

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Speaker 1: definitely going to take a step back offensively. I look

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Speaker 1: at Miles Brennan and then I listen to what people

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Speaker 1: down there say about him, most notably Ed Orgeron, who

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Speaker 1: has not been bashful about saying Miles Brennan is going

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Speaker 1: to be the quarterback here. And I expect him to

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Speaker 1: be a championship caliber quarterback. So you asked, can they

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Speaker 1: contend for a national championship? Yeah, I believe they can.

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Speaker 1: Path for anybody to repeat as a national championship is

522
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Speaker 1: always very treacherous. Winning one period in the SEC is

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Speaker 1: treacherous or otherwise, it's not an SEC thing, it's a

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Speaker 1: national thing. However, I think this doesn't have so much

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Speaker 1: to do with Miles Brennan as it has to do

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Speaker 1: with a bigger picture issue. If you can guarantee me

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Speaker 1: that entire roster is all in this year, I mean

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Speaker 1: they were willing to go over a cliff for the

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Speaker 1: guys standing to their left and right last year. If

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Speaker 1: they still have that mentality, if the hunger is there

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Speaker 1: to the degree it was last year, if that fire

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Speaker 1: is still there, they will be talented enough. Mark my words.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how many they just lost to the draft.

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Speaker 1: They will be talented enough to win a national championship.

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Speaker 1: If they don't win one next year, if they go

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Speaker 1: nine and three, I do not believe that we'll look

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Speaker 1: at them at the end of the year and say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, they just lack the talent to get it done.

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Speaker 1: Know what will have happened is if they do go

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Speaker 1: nine to three, they will have lost some close games,

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Speaker 1: competitive games, games where a bob player two. That's an

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Speaker 1: acron I use bounce off ball. You know that ball

543
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: is not shaped like a baseball, its round. It bounces

544
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Speaker 1: funny ways. Tips balls in the air, sometimes fall to

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Speaker 1: the ground, sometimes fall in the defender's hand and get

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Speaker 1: taken eighty yards to the house. Sometimes you fall in

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Speaker 1: the fumble. Sometimes it bounces away from you. These sorts

548
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: of things determine the outcomes of football games. Those sorts

549
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Speaker 1: of things will determine LSU season next year when you're

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Speaker 1: as talented as they are. That is the way it happens.

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Speaker 1: Think about you guys play in Alabama this past year.

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Speaker 1: You won that game by one possession. Think about the

553
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Speaker 1: opening drive for Alabama. No defender got a hand on

554
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Speaker 1: tongue of Ailoa. He just dropped the ball on the ground,

555
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Speaker 1: and you recovered it and drove right down and scored,

556
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Speaker 1: and it was your game throughout. What if he doesn't

557
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Speaker 1: drop that ball? Is my point. So those sorts of

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Speaker 1: things I'm not taking away from your win there. I'm

559
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: saying those sorts of things are either going to make

560
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Speaker 1: you or crush you. But it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: for lack of talent, and I don't think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be for a lack of Miles Brennan being good

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Speaker 1: enough to win games. And Matt on Twitter. We need

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Speaker 1: some context for this one, Matt, so I was suggesting, Well,

565
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Speaker 1: first off, I was suggesting never to expand the playoff

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Speaker 1: on one of the recent shows. But I also granted

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Speaker 1: you that I think it's probably coming. So my next

568
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Speaker 1: point was whether we go to six teams, eight teams,

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Speaker 1: or one hundred teams. I don't support auto bids for

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Speaker 1: the G five, and I don't support auto bids for anyone.

571
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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's conference should be guaranteed a spot

572
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Speaker 1: before the season is played. I want, let's say it's

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Speaker 1: eight teams. If it's an eight team playoff, I want

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Speaker 1: the eight best teams. That's what I want. That's what

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Speaker 1: I think is best for the sport. It is a

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Speaker 1: blind test. I couldn't care less at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year what conference you're in. Let's play the conference games,

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Speaker 1: let's play conference championships. But when it's time to select

579
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Speaker 1: for the college football Playoff, we're not trying to find

580
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Speaker 1: out who's the best in the ACC or the SEC

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Speaker 1: or the Big twelve. We're trying to find out who

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the country are. Therefore, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: the lines off the map. There are no conferences in

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Speaker 1: this conversation. There are just one hundred and thirty teams,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to pick the best ones. With that

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Speaker 1: in mind. Now, that's my philosophy. It won't be adopted

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: in all likelihoods, So don't worry if you don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have much to worry about. Matt

589
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter asks if that were the case, do you

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Speaker 1: think a committee would be willing to put, for example,

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Speaker 1: four SEC teams in on a given year and leave

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Speaker 1: out a week conference champion where they had beaten up

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Speaker 1: on each other and a three loss conference champion emerged.

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Speaker 1: If it's the same committee as today, I have a

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Speaker 1: tough time seeing them do this. For instance, there was

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Speaker 1: an Auburn team that lost Tobama and LSU, two top

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Speaker 1: five teams. If they were ten and two but third

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Speaker 1: in the SEC West. Do you think any committee would

599
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Speaker 1: ever put them in? No? Probably not. Therein lies my problem.

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Speaker 1: You see, there are two different discussions here. If you

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Speaker 1: want to tell me right at the onset, I am

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Speaker 1: not four just a how are rating top eight teams

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Speaker 1: from any committee being led in a playoff? I want

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Speaker 1: equal representation. I believe every conference should have a seat

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Speaker 1: at the table, and that's what I think is what's

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Speaker 1: best for the sport. If you tell me that, of

607
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Speaker 1: course I disagree with you. But if you tell me

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Speaker 1: that right at the outset, I don't have a problem

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Speaker 1: because you're not being intellectually dishonest with me. We just disagree.

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Speaker 1: There's a big difference. But if you come to me

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Speaker 1: and you say, oh, I'm just like you, Josh, trust me,

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Speaker 1: we want the same thing. You want the best in

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Speaker 1: and I want the best in. But then it comes

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Speaker 1: selection time and you tell me Auburn can't be in.

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Speaker 1: They didn't win the SEC. Auburn can't be in, they've

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Speaker 1: got two losses. I got an undefeated team over here.

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Speaker 1: You can't put a two loss team over and undefeated,

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Speaker 1: Well yeah I can. I certainly can. You don't even

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Speaker 1: stop to tell me who you're undefeated team faced because

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Speaker 1: here's the fact of the matter. They're going to be

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Speaker 1: given years in college football where you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: two loss team, and you're gonna have an undefeated team.

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Speaker 1: And that two loss team, if I take the losses

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Speaker 1: into account, they'll still have two or three wins better

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Speaker 1: than the undefeated team's best win. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't care about that. I do. You are not. Let

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Speaker 1: me repeat very slowly, this is not the NFL. You

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Speaker 1: are not always what your record says you are in

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Speaker 1: college football. But I've got a crowd and they're pretty sizable.

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Speaker 1: Who swear to me that going undefeated is the hardest

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Speaker 1: thing to do in sports. And if you go undefeated,

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Speaker 1: no matter what conference champ, undefeated you belong in. Well,

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, what if you just played a

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Speaker 1: high school schedule? What's the limit here? Where's the baseline?

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Speaker 1: How good does the schedule have to be? How strong

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Speaker 1: does the strength of schedule have to be? Because all

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Speaker 1: you tell me is, oh, forget it now. If they're

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Speaker 1: eleven and one, crucifying. But if they're twelve and zero,

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Speaker 1: I don't care who you played. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: you went to the local pee wee and just ran

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Speaker 1: people out of the building twelve weeks in a row.

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Speaker 1: Undefeated is undefeated, not undefeated is undefeated. But if you

643
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Speaker 1: think undefeated deserves an automatic seat at a playoff table,

644
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Speaker 1: you're out of your mind. You're out of your mind.

645
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Speaker 1: So I'll never agree to that. But Matt, no, I

646
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Speaker 1: don't believe if you expanded to eight that there is

647
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Speaker 1: any committee out there that would put four SEC teams

648
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: or Big ten teams or in any given year, let's

649
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: just say the acc exploded. I don't think that there's

650
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Speaker 1: a committee out there that will put four teams from

651
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: the same conference on it, and their justification would be

652
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: because it is quote unquote bad for the sport. Dan

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Speaker 1: in the email inbox, who this is a good one. Dan,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you for those of you who just disagreed

655
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: with me on the last answer, you'll agree with me here.

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Speaker 1: What should the NCAA do about targeting and instant replay?

657
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Speaker 1: I have to confess, when I watch games, I get

658
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Speaker 1: really frustrated by how quickly targeting is called and how

659
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: many times replay is used. Should there be an intentional

660
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: targeting rule and then an unintentional targeting rule? And that's

661
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Speaker 1: Dan via email. Yes, I certainly think so. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of you out there don't like soccer A

663
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: huge soccer fan anyway. But I'll tell you one thing

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Speaker 1: soccer gets right that currently college football does not get right,

665
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: and that is the difference between a yellow card and

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Speaker 1: a red card. Now I don't necessarily know how all

667
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: that works, but think about the concept here. I mean,

668
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: we've got a situation right now, and they did take

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Speaker 1: a step down. Let me pause, They did take a

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00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: step did the rules committee to move in the right

671
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Speaker 1: direction on this? And if you missed it, this last

672
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: year was the first year where they adopted some new

673
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Speaker 1: rules on targeting. And whereas previously it was if there's

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Speaker 1: any doubt, throw the flag and then we'll kick him

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00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: out of the game, well, now it's throw the flag,

676
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: but when you replay it, there has to be overwhelming

677
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: evidence that there was targeting. So now if there's any

678
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: doubt whether it was targeting, pick the flag up. Now

679
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: that's certainly a move in the right direction, because what

680
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: you think about now is only real examples of targeting

681
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: are to be flagged and BS flags, tiki tak flags

682
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: will be picked up. And we saw that happen a

683
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Speaker 1: number of times this last year. And at that point,

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Speaker 1: I don't have that big a problem with what we're

685
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Speaker 1: dealing with because there are hits that we have to

686
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Speaker 1: get out of the game. Now. I don't think very

687
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: many people disagree on that. It's just that sometimes flags

688
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: are thrown on perfectly legal hits. But I agree with

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00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: you here. I think there's room for an adjustment here

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Speaker 1: where you got something that is legitimate enough to throw

691
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard personal foul penalty, but at the same

692
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: time incidental targeting maybe or versus versus intentional targeting red flag,

693
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Speaker 1: you're immediately out of the game. I would like to

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Speaker 1: adopt that system. So I agree with you in principle here.

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Speaker 1: We don't actually have to use yellow and red flags,

696
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: mind you. You can just announce it on the microphone

697
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: like normal adults do. Let's see Terence on Twitter. What

698
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: a loaded question, Terrence. Do media people get along at games?

699
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: You know this is going to shock you, Terrence. But

700
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: for all the blustering back and forth, and all the

701
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: posturing back and forth, and all the keyboard muscles that

702
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: some of these folks show off Monday through Friday, I've

703
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: never seen an argument in person at a game. It

704
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: may happen, I'm not saying it's never happened, And I'm

705
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: sure someone has better stories than me, but I haven't

706
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: seen it. I just see folks come in and do

707
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Speaker 1: their job. I'll tell you what stands out to me.

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00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of a side note. Here's what's fascinating to me.

709
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Speaker 1: I'll climb up on the soapbox for a couple of

710
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Speaker 1: minutes so you guys don't get to see this. As

711
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: I told you previously, I'm just a dude who grew

712
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: up going to games, no different than any of you

713
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Speaker 1: listening right now. Love the sport go to. I used

714
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Speaker 1: to go to Georgia Tech Games. I've been to Georgia Games, Auburn, Alabama.

715
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: If I could get there, I'd go. And so it

716
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: just floored me whenever the opportunity to cover this sport

717
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: for a living was put on the table, I work

718
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: my tail off to get there, Make no mistake, But

719
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: there are certain blessings that were put in front of

720
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: me and opportunities that I personally don't view as coincidence.

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00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger plan in place that takes

722
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: care of a lot of that. But regardless of whatever

723
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: your belief system is, I went from observing to being

724
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: able to cover what I'm most passionate about in the world,

725
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: which is college football recreationally at least, and so it's

726
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: a huge deal. It's what I'm saying is it's never

727
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: been lost on me. I have never nonchalantly walked into

728
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: a stadium to cover a game. I'm always in awe

729
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: just like you guys are. It's a huge, huge deal.

730
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: It's a huge deal to interview head coaches. To me,

731
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: they're bigger than rock stars. A lot of people grow

732
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: up idolizing movie stars and rock stars. To me, football

733
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: head coaches. Those have been the peak celebrities in the

734
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: American culture for me growing up, because college football was

735
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of entertainment for me growing up. And you

736
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: might wonder where I'm going with this. I'm going somewhere,

737
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to give you the back drop of

738
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: how I feel about this sport so you can understand.

739
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys would if you were in

740
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: my position. I'm just a former fan that was given

741
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: the ability to do this professionally. But I never lost

742
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: the fan hood inside of me. Haven't to this day,

743
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: and I won't. I'll promise you that I won't. That's

744
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: I think that's why a lot of our content appeals

745
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: to you because it's not manufactured, it's genuine. You can

746
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: tell you're very smart, you're very sharp. Just like back

747
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: in the day when I used to listen to all

748
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: these podcasts and watch all these shows, I can tell

749
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: who's real about it and who's manufacturing it, who's just

750
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: punching a clock in and out and trying to put

751
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: in their three hours on air and then go home

752
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: and they don't care about you and don't care about

753
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: what they talked about that day. Well, I'm not on

754
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: that side of the fence. I'm on the other side.

755
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: Here's what would shock you. I go to these games

756
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: and that's the greatest days of my entire year. Some

757
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: of you go to a job that you hate. Just statistically,

758
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: I see how many people listen to this program, and

759
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: more and more listen every week. And by the way,

760
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: if you are, thank you for those five star reviews

761
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: and written reviews. And if you haven't given us one,

762
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: please consider doing so. It's free and it takes like

763
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: two seconds. But I know you, guys. I talk to

764
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: a lot of you. I know virtually all of you,

765
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly. Some of you go to jobs

766
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: you love, and that's great. Some of you go to

767
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: jobs you just flat out hate. And even if you

768
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: have a job you love, picture something in your life

769
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: that you can't stand, and then picture your attitude when

770
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: you're doing that thing. It would probably shock you if

771
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: I told you when I walk into a press box

772
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: on a Saturday afternoon, there are people being paid to

773
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: cover this sport who look just like you do when

774
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: you're doing something you don't like. And this is boggled

775
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: my mind. It will boggle my mind until eternity that

776
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: there are people doing what I love to do more

777
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: than anything in the world who just look at it

778
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of as a job. I don't care how long

779
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: they've done it. I couldn't care less. I'll if I

780
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: were doing this when I was one hundred and fifteen

781
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: years old, I'd still be freaked out of my mind

782
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. It's the biggest thrill

783
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: of my life. It should be the biggest thrill of

784
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: anyone's life, and yet there are folks forget about whether

785
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: they get along or not. I'm not even that was

786
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: the original question. I'm way far away from that. But

787
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: just imagine walking into the press box of Neeland Stadium

788
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: or Sanford Stadium or Clemson Memorial Stadium, and seeing people

789
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: with a frown on their face and walking around, you know,

790
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: head down, Oh, checking your watch? How much longer? Oh,

791
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: the game hasn't even started, have the teams even arrived.

792
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: I've never understood how anyone could be like that, especially

793
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: with how competitive this industry is to break into and

794
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: how many people would crawl over broken glass to get

795
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: into it. How do you ever accidentally find your way

796
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: in here? I understand if someone ends up being a secretary.

797
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: I got a buddy who is a secretary who hates

798
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: his job. Hopefully, if you're a secretary, you love your job.

799
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Speaker 1: But I got a buddy who's a secretary who hates

800
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Speaker 1: his job, and he'll explain to me how he ended

801
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: up where he is, and it just kind of that's

802
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: where he fell into place at. Well, Okay, there aren't

803
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Speaker 1: a ton of people who grow up dreaming on Saturdays

804
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: about secretary positions. There are a lot of people who

805
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: grow up dreaming about covering college football. So I could

806
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: see how someone may plink go their way down into

807
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: settling into a secretary position. I can understand what he's

808
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: saying I can never understand how someone's miserable covering college football.

809
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: College football is what the miserable secretary daydreams about, Like

810
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: you're doing what they'd love to do. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: as you can hear, I'm on a soapbox. I've never

812
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: understood how people could be anything less than passionate and

813
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: just thrilled out of their mind to be able to

814
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: do this for a living. But that's just me. Let's

815
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Speaker 1: move on. I'll get in trouble. I'll end up dropping

816
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: names audio ghost on YouTube. What's a realistic record expectation

817
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: for Texas A and M this year? Can Jimbo Fisher

818
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Speaker 1: turn them into an elite force in the future like

819
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: they've desperately wanted to be for so long? Yeah? I

820
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: think he can. They're not missing anything. I said this

821
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Speaker 1: when someone was there. I thought this was the biggest

822
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: underachieving program in America. I've thought that for a lot

823
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: a long long time. There is no limitation, there is

824
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 1: no ceiling. There. Want to bore you with the list

825
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: that I always go down, But everything you need to

826
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Speaker 1: win at the highest levels of the sport, A and

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Speaker 1: M has, They've got it all. Try and think of

828
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Speaker 1: something they don't have. The only thing you're probably going

829
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: to go to is trophy case a bunch of national championships.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you, guys, I talk to high

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Speaker 1: school kids every year. They don't care about it. They

832
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Speaker 1: think they are the ones that can fill the trophy case.

833
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Speaker 1: So if you've got everything else taken care of, they

834
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Speaker 1: think they'll fill your trophy case for you. But Jimbo

835
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Fisher needs an elite quarterback. That's what he needs. I

836
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Speaker 1: got another question coming up about Florida in a second,

837
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: and it's kind of the same theme. Loosely, you gotta

838
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: be great at quarterback. This is not a generation to go.

839
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Speaker 1: Generation to go would have been the two thousand and

840
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Speaker 1: nine era. Think about that with a team like Alabama,

841
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: do you realize that we're only a little over a

842
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: decade removed from a team with Greg McElroy under center

843
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: and winning a national championship. Think about that. Think about

844
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: that for a second. You think Greg McElroy is starting

845
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Speaker 1: at quarterback, Bless his soul. You think he's starting for

846
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Speaker 1: Alabama today instead of to a tongue of Iloa and

847
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Bama contending for a national championship. Absolutely not. Back then,

848
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: they were able to bludgeon people to death, and they

849
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: had such a roster advantage that and they were going

850
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: to for the next few years that they could afford

851
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: to have what you started to call game manager material

852
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. You can't do that. Jimbo can't do that either.

853
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: When you've got a Trevor Lawrence out there and you've

854
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: got a tongue of Iloa or now our Bryce Young

855
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: or Mac Jones, anna loaded roster, you got Joe Burrow

856
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: out there, any given year, you got to be great

857
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: at quarterback. A and M is not great at quarterback.

858
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: They're not bad. And I know Kellen Mon's going to

859
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: get a lot of preseason love and no one's pulling

860
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: for him harder than I am. Trust me. Just as

861
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: much as I'm rooting for Tennessee to come back in

862
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: the East, I'm rooting for Texas A and M to

863
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: be a force in the West. I know it's selfish,

864
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: but it's good for me, it's good for Late Kick,

865
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: it's good for our brand here. So I know that

866
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: maybe if you're a Texas fan, you couldn't care less

867
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: about what A and M's doing. But understand I have

868
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: different motivation than you. He's got to be great at quarterback.

869
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: They're not there yet. Michael on YouTube. Dave Randa's LSU

870
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: defense last year was fairly low ranked, given that the

871
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: offense will likely be less explosive this season, do you

872
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: think there's any chance of the defense improving? This is

873
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: all relative. Last year. One of the things I noticed

874
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: about our LSU brethren was they were struggling to evolve

875
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: their expectations defensively in the new era. Offensively, we've seen

876
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: Alabama go through this Georgia. If they ever evolve offensively,

877
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: they'll go through the same thing. You're not going to

878
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: have the top rated defense in America and the top

879
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: rated offense. That's not going to happen. You've got to

880
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: evolve what your expectations are and what your standard for

881
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: greatness defensively is. And I focus on red zone defense.

882
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: That's what a third down defense, in red zone defense,

883
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: at yards per play, stuff like that, the advanced metrics,

884
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: that's what I focus on with these teams with more

885
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: new age and aggressive offenses, and that's what LSU was

886
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: last year. So Dave Randa's defense was plenty good enough

887
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: last year, plenty good enough this year. Dave Randa's gone.

888
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Not only is Joe Burrow gone, and a lot of

889
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: that offensive talent gone, so is Dave Randa. Dave Randa

890
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: out Bo Polini in This is one of the biggest

891
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: question marks to me and college football. Now. What we

892
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: should have learned already, if you haven't already, is don't

893
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: question ed Orgeron much on these personnel decisions. He has everything,

894
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: he's touched, every string he's pulled has been made of gold.

895
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: So far he was sold on bo Polini. Therefore it

896
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if I have questions on him. Ed Orzeern

897
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: has sold on him. But my questions remain, and my

898
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: questions are last time Bo Polini was really a defensive

899
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: coordinator in major college football was seven. And we just

900
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: talked about two or three minutes ago. Did we not

901
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: about the state of the game offensively and sec state

902
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: of the sec offensively in two thousand and seven versus

903
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: twenty twenty? And I'm not saying that someone like bo

904
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: Polini can't evolve his philosophy right along with the game evolving?

905
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: Has he will? He? Is he capable of that? That

906
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: really is what remains to be seen to me. So

907
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: you notice I didn't even dive into personnel like I've

908
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: got LSU's depth chart just like you do. I know

909
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: who they've got coming in, just like you do. I

910
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: don't even think I think it's a much more overarching

911
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: question and answer than well, here's who they have it

912
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, and here's who will replace so and so

913
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle. It's not even about that yet. That's

914
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: a more granular October November topic. If you catch my

915
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: drift there. Oh here's one. Zach via email. This is

916
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: a good question here. I was just talking to someone

917
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: about this today, Zach says. I was wondering, if the

918
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: SEC decides to have their season and other conferences or

919
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: teams don't, can the SEC replace those opponents with someone

920
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: from the SEC that they weren't originally scheduled to play.

921
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: For example, LSU is scheduled to play Texas, San Antonio, Texas, Rice,

922
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: and Nichols. Could they instead schedule Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri? Yes, Zach,

923
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: they could. This scenario is on the table. I know

924
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: this sounds kind of crazy. Last year I think it

925
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: was Wake Forest and North Carolina. I don't quote me

926
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: on that, but someone in the ACC did this last

927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: year they played each other as a non conference game.

928
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: Two conference opponents played each other, but it didn't count

929
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: the conference standings. Well, that wasn't a radical season. That

930
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: was just a radical decision. We may have a radical

931
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: season on our hands now. On the Sunday night show

932
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: Late Kick Live on the YouTube channel. If you watched that,

933
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: you heard me sort of tiptoe around a point that

934
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: I was making, And I told you at the time,

935
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: I am aware of conversations between a team and another

936
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: team who aren't scheduled to play each other in Week one,

937
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: but each of them has a concern whether their respective

938
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: opponent will be able to be on on the field

939
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: for Week one. Since then, it's been reported, I believe,

940
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: via the Paul feinebamb Show, and he is talking specifically

941
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: about the teams I was talking about. He reported earlier today.

942
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm recording this. On Wednesday, he reported Alabama and TCU

943
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: have had conversations about playing in Week one. Now, TCU

944
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: is scheduled to play cal Alabama is scheduled to play USC.

945
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: No one knows if the Pac twelve is going to

946
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: be able to play this season, much less the first

947
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: week of the season. So you have a team in

948
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: the Big twelve and a team in the SEC saying, well,

949
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: if you're out of an opponent and we're out of

950
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: an opponent, why don't we just play each other. I mean,

951
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: Bama's already supposed to play Southern Cal in Dallas. Fort

952
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: Worth is right next door to Dallas, so it could

953
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: work out with TCU. But there is another proposal here,

954
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: or maybe a combination of proposals, because, like you said,

955
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: what happens if you got several slots you have to

956
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: fill for SEC teams that are out of an out

957
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: of conference opponent. Well, what you can do is you

958
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: can play like the PAC twelve. I know has talked

959
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: about playing just everybody, play everybody around robin style in

960
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: conference and that's the season. I know you can't do

961
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: that perfectly symmetrically. If you have a fourteen team league,

962
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: subtract yourself. Of course, that's thirteen teams, so there's one

963
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: team that every team doesn't play. But yeah, I think

964
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: that is on the table. Zach Listen. We talked to

965
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Greg Sanki, the SEC commissioner, just this week. Brandon Marcelo

966
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: had forty minutes with him, and Sankie told us point blank.

967
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: We've got between fifteen and twenty schedule contingency plans. Of

968
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: course he wouldn't name them. I'd be surprised if he

969
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: had all of them memorized, because I'm sure that stuff

970
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: is very fluid and changes by the day. But yeah, Zach,

971
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: I just suffice to say, this is on the table.

972
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's flip the page. You know, there was

973
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: a question. I know it's here. I know it's here,

974
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: and I have skipped over it and I just teased it,

975
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: so I am not going to leave it out. We

976
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: answered that one. We answered that one. Here we go,

977
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: Here we go, okay, So the question is essentially Florida,

978
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: and that's not it either. Here we go. Okay. All right.

979
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: This is from kW and it was in the YouTube

980
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: and it was a really, really good comment, and I

981
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: was not going to leave this one out. It's long.

982
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Bear with me. I have an important point to make

983
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: on what I think you're missing. Now, this is kW

984
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: talking to me what you're missing when you discuss recruiting.

985
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: You need great players to win a national championship, but

986
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: you don't need elite players top to bottom. The teams

987
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: that are normally in the playoffs have one thing in common,

988
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback. So far, I agree with everything he said.

989
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: He continues, this is why I do not think a

990
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: team like Florida has to just rip it on the

991
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: recruiting trail. They've always had good to great talent. And

992
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: if I could bet on a team getting a quarterback

993
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: with that it factor outside of Bama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Clemson,

994
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: I place my bet on Florida, so Tennessee, Georgia, Texas

995
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: and even Texas A and M can get all this

996
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: recruiting hype, but it's all short lived if they can't

997
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: recruit and develop an elite quarterback. This is the main

998
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: reason why teams with elite rosters underperform when they do listen,

999
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: He's not disagreeing with me, k W. Even if you

1000
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: think you're disagreeing with me, brother, you I mean you're

1001
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: singing to the choir, or preaching to the choir. I

1002
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: guess I don't know if anyone's ever sung to a choir,

1003
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: how arrogant if they do. He's preaching to the choir

1004
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: here though, because he's right, you can this is what

1005
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: has kept Georgia from winning a national championship. Point blank

1006
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, think about how close they've come, and then

1007
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: think about what would happen if you just traded quarterbacks.

1008
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, if you put to a tongue of Bailoa

1009
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: on Georgia's roster when they played Bama, Georgia's a national champion.

1010
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean just flat out the next year. You know,

1011
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: if they have Joe Burrow instead of you know, Jake

1012
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: from They're a two time national champion. They've got an

1013
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: elite roster, they lack an elite quarterback. Listen, he's right

1014
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: about this. I think the point to be made here

1015
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: is if you've got an elite roster and an elite quarterback,

1016
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: well you're going to be very tough to beat, unless

1017
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: you just proved that last year. But here's the point

1018
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: to make of Florida. Florida to this point is not

1019
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: recruiting top five classes like he said, Like kW said,

1020
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: They're recruiting good classes, They're not outside the top twenty.

1021
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: That's why I got to be careful when I talk

1022
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: about Florida. It sounds like I always get accused of

1023
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: being a Gator hater quote unquote. It's only because I

1024
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: have high expectations for them. I want Florida to win,

1025
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: just like Florida fans do again. It's good for me

1026
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: when Florida's good and so, but it's hard because you've

1027
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: got to be careful when you're critical of a team

1028
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: that's doing things very good. And Florida recruits very good,

1029
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: and they coach, they coach at an elite level, they

1030
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: develop at an elite level. They're not going any higher

1031
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: than they're than they are in those departments. But when

1032
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: you know you got to beat LSU and or Georgia

1033
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: every year, and if you don't see George or LSU

1034
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: in Atlanta again, you see Alabama there. When you got

1035
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: to beat these teams and you know they're going to

1036
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: have really good quarterback playing, you know they're gonna have

1037
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: great rosters. If you've only got a very good roster,

1038
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: like kW said, you've got to have an elite quarterback. Now.

1039
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: The next question is, is Kyle Trask that I don't know.

1040
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: Do you have the elite quarterback of the future on

1041
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: your roster? I certainly don't know that. And if you don't,

1042
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: is Florida going to recruit that guy and or develop

1043
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: that guy? This, by the way, is also the blueprint

1044
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame to win a national championship. Notre Dame

1045
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: is not going to have an elite roster. That's the

1046
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: reality of modern day recruiting. They are not going to

1047
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: match Clemson player for player. They're not going to match

1048
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: Bama player for player. If they were to get an

1049
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: elite quarterback in there, then that element at quarterback and

1050
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: a good roster in any given year, if things bounce

1051
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: your way, you could win a national championship doing that.

1052
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: All right, that's what we have for today. To be

1053
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: honest with you, guys, I don't even know how long

1054
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: we just went. I just know I enjoyed it, and

1055
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: really I could go for like another hour, but our

1056
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: podcast wizards Tony specifically, who has to edit this. I

1057
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: don't think he wants that. He wants to eat supper,

1058
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: and the longer he has to edit the last time

1059
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Speaker 1: he has. So I appreciate it, and like I said,

1060
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate the five star reviews that you've been

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Speaker 1: giving us. Again, if you want to get your questions

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Speaker 1: submitted here, it's really easy. Multitude of ways you can

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Speaker 1: drop in the YouTube live chat and a lot of

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Speaker 1: you have lit that up. I mean, management here is

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Speaker 1: very very excited about the viewership and the traction that

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Speaker 1: we have gotten, albeit in a very short period of time,

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Speaker 1: with moving that entire Late Kick operation to twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven. So you can submit your questions on the

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Speaker 1: YouTube live chat. I put a specific penned comment below

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Speaker 1: every video, every live video Late Kick Live video where

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Speaker 1: you can submit a question. There. You can email me

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Speaker 1: joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com, or you

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Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter. And if you're going to

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Speaker 1: submit a question, I would prefer you do it in

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Speaker 1: the DMS. I keep them open for everyone, yes, even you,

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Speaker 1: and it is at Late Kick Josh, and give me

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Speaker 1: a follow while you're there, because hey, that's the main

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Speaker 1: reason or the main way that I communicate with you

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Speaker 1: guys during the week. Those five star reviews really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We went over one hundred this week. I say we

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Speaker 1: just go over one thousand, and the more reviews you

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Speaker 1: give me and the more traction we get, the more

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Speaker 1: content we're going to pump out and hopefully the quicker

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Speaker 1: college football season arrives. So until this Sunday night, Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: regardless of next time I see you, maybe it's not

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Speaker 1: until this time next week on the Leak, Kick Catching

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Speaker 1: the podcast, Take care, stay safe, Appreciate you listening. God

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Speaker 1: bless