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Speaker 1: Critically acclaimed Commander in Chief. She's on the show today

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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations. Micky Taylor. I'm so honored

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Speaker 1: to be with you today. Get these words right there.

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Speaker 1: That's what got me nervous. You know, follower countries used

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Micky Taylor? How you doing? Oh? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing fine? How about you? And congratulations? Let me say

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Speaker 1: just listening in because this is a necessary conversation from

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Speaker 1: a necessary authority. Well, I appreciate that, but I want

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