WEBVTT - Take Back the Night 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.520 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.960 we are back. It is nine two one oh MG 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:20.040 with us three fabulous ladies. Happy New Year. Hi, Happy 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.560 New Year. Uh my co host and bestie. You sound 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.800 a little sexy. Why does always sound a little sexy? Oh? 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:32.200 I got the vid? Oh who I hear everyone's doing it? 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.800 Do you? No? I got it? I got it. I 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.840 learned to be like you and I got it. Okay, 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.360 so I'm gonna admit something that you're gonna be like. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.440 Oh to t am I. So when girlfriends are closed, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.920 their cycles sync up, and that's always happened to us, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:56.440 and now our VIDs have like SYNCD up. So twice 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.080 we almost made it twice in one year. So I 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.360 had it twice in one year. You had it almost 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.679 twice in one year because you got it right January 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.200 January last year, and then I got again January this year. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.760 But last year we got it back to back, and 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.520 this year we got it back to back, just once again, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.360 proving to you guys that even though things change in life, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:21.360 like we have you know, pandemic, epidemic, tridemic, what do 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.840 we have right now? Bestie still sync up, Kelly and 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:30.720 Dona lucky us. Okay, So here's the thing, though, I've 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.760 been in bed since Monday, like you know, in my 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.720 banished to my bedroom where because my other nobody else 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.560 in my family got it? Thank God. The craziest thing 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.120 is I had an eightieth birthday party for my mom 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:52.120 on Sunday, January one, and on the on that night, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.080 I started to not feel well. And then the next 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:58.880 morning I tested positive. She didn't. I was so we 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.920 didn't get it to me, but I didn't give it 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.040 to me me like in all the wood and yeah, 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.600 I don't think anybody else got it, which is insane. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.480 But I've been you know, I tested. I want to 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.320 leave my room, and I want to see my daughter, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.400 who's home, my Lola. She's home from from college and 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.160 I wanted to spend time with her and I haven't 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.560 been able to. So here's my lady. I'm so nervous. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.320 I'm so nervous. Oh my god. Okay, ready, I'm gonna 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:30.359 show you. I'm so nervous. Was it saying, oh, Mama, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:37.119 you're so positive, but they say you can test positive 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:42.680 for up to are you sure? Geez? I thought you're 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.480 coming with that one. I don't know. What I was 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.480 thinking about. Is what I was thinking is you can 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.760 go from positive to negative, like you might be negative 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.160 tomorrow or even tonight. Just do it again. I keep saying, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.000 how many? So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, it's Friday. So 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.280 we're taping this on Friday, guys, so that's five days. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.680 I think you might have a couple one day. Oh 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.760 my god, I can't take it. I can't, I can't. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.880 I'm lose my mind. I'm busting out today. Okay, but 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.360 we're going to look at the silver lining here. And 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.760 I was really proud of you because you posted this 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:18.600 on on Instagram some days ago and that you have 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.840 decided in three to slow down because she does she 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:29.040 does everything for everyone moves at lightning pace. Um, and 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.840 this you were saying, maybe this was a sign that 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.400 it was gonna Your body was telling you to slow 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.880 itself down. I guess so, yeah, that was my my 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.160 word for the year, slow down my two words. I 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.720 guess so because we've both been sick, I gotta say you, guys, 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.000 my my New Year's wish came true. You got highlights. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.280 It looks so pretty. Oh my god, I got my 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.120 I know you don't feel great right now, but you 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.720 look really pretty and you're giving me total telly from 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.800 this episode. I agree with no bangs and like hair back, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.240 that's crazy. Yes, no, you told me that. Um basically 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:16.200 I looked ugly with brown hair and tst things like that. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.760 Did I say that? No? What did you say? I 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.720 don't even remember, but you were like you are a 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:26.080 blonde or something like that. Face it, but I was still. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.160 It's one thing we've all been through a lot of therapy. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.200 We know how to phrase things to people without trying 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.120 to make them feel bad. I did not say you 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.680 looked ugly. That's what your brain brain hurt. That Yeah, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.240 one of the most beautiful people. I got it. I 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.440 got it lightened just for you. I said, you're a 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.240 blonded heart. I guess I am, but I don't care 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.640 like I just I don't really care. So when my 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.080 hair like it grows out, I start to become like 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.760 a brunette and I like it, and but other people 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.800 around me, I guess, don't love it as much. So 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.599 it's not that I don't like it. I thought you 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.279 look good. I just love you. Okay, Well, this is 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.359 a hair issue. We've been dealing with for thirty years. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.240 She always gets mad and I'm like, I like your 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:09.800 hair longer, and then she has her hair short and 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:11.680 then she's like, Okay, it was better longer and not 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.120 to It's like the one thing I can ever get right, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.000 not to be kiss as. See how they always say 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.320 I'm kiss as you kiss as Yeah, Oh you're so, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.640 isn't it wouldn't be actually as kissy whatever. But Tori, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.000 you posted a family photo with a crop top and 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:36.880 you looked super huh, okay, thank you, thank you. That 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.880 was my one night out, But really it was in 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.640 because we just transport our sick family to a hotel. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.640 We weren't sick or contagious by the time we went 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.840 to a hotel. But um we went to Park AVR 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.560 and it was so good that we stayed in we 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.119 didn't go outside. So but I did want to judge 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.280 myself up because I feel like I've been in literally 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.239 this sweat outfit. So I'm back to the sweat outfit 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.719 and I'm going to wear it all of two twenty three. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.680 So John, if you get sick of it, this is 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.760 what I'm wearing unless I go out for that and 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:07.040 it has green pants matching Oh great, matching pants like 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.760 Beverly Hills vibe. I am, but I'm like the opposite 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:17.200 the Grinch. No, I'm our favorite color. Yes, okay, but 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.160 I don't want to change the subject. Well, you know, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.080 I always admitt it like I did put like a 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.919 filter on my face because I succumbed to all the 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.600 pressures on Instagram. I did not photoshop anything or even 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:35.720 smooth on my stomach. Look great, it's all real. Nice. Okay, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.920 you guys tell me about this episode because I liked it. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:45.279 It's a favorite. Yeah is it? Oh no, you didn't 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.680 like it. I liked it. It was it was you know, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:53.400 I liked it. I don't know, maybe theory. I had 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:54.800 a theory and why I liked it. I would love 0:06:54.839 --> 0:07:02.000 your input because everything was really about the one storyline. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:08.040 Everybody's mini stories were still back on the main storyline, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.520 and I think for me, I was like, I love that. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.400 It didn't feel like why is that happening? It was 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.600 like even though everyone had their own angles and different things, 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.600 it seemed really like centered. I feel you. I feel 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.120 you that I feel the same way. I love it. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.400 When the episode everything's tied together and you're not all 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.800 scattered everywhere with everybody else's storylines because it sort of 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.240 diminishes it. I agree, And maybe that's why often I 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.400 tell you guys that go, oh, I'm bored because no 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.560 offense to anyone. Maybe if it's a storyline I'm not 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.240 as invested in. I kind of like zone out. Wait 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:45.040 wait wait. But because everybody's storyline was about this one 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.880 thing and came together, I loved every second of it. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.160 I'm so glad. I'm very happy. So well, I liked it. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.920 I did not like it. There wasn't I used. I'm 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.720 not doing backflips over anything right now, so but I 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.040 really they didn't like it, and I thought everybody did 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.880 such a great job. We are talking about season four, 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:12.120 episode eleven, take Back the Night, aired November sevent Synopsis. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.200 Take Back the Night Week raises some tough questions amongst 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.239 the group. Laura's about to make a huge accusation against 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.520 Steve Sanders, John Sears Fine Way Shows has true colors, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.640 and may he likes Pie, so Less gets her heartbroken 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.680 and Brandon gets blackmailed. Directed by James Whitmore Jr. Written 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:34.720 by Chip Johansson. Can I be controversial? Right from the start. Okay, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.680 So I've been waiting to say the water cooler moment. Okay. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:42.600 So Tracy Mittendorff plays Laura, and she was like around 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.240 like I think she was maybe on Days of our 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.520 Lives at some point. I don't know she was on 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.280 like she was the second Carrie Brady on Days for 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.960 Our Lives. Yeah, she was always in different things, right, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.839 But I think this was the first I've ever saw her. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.319 I feel bad for saying this, but for her entire career, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.760 every time I always saw her, I found her annoying. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:09.080 And I literally think it's because of this Laura, God 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:15.760 bless her is annoying. So I am wondering if for 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.480 that girl's entire career, every time she would pop up, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.640 I'd be like, like, I never liked her as the 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.080 other carry not because I don't like Tracy Minendoor if 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.439 she's not a good actress, but I think it was 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:30.320 because always Laura. I was like, w t F Laura, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:35.880 Like I get it, it's messy, but like, WHOA, yeah, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.400 is not going to come on this show. I mean 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.520 we sealed that deal. It's okay. I want to ask 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.960 her about Days realized. Sorry, go ahead when I got 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.200 when I saw that Kelly was getting all twisted up 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.240 it with Laura. I was like, no, don't get involved, 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.800 She's going to bring you into a crazy world. But 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.160 I did like you guys together. I liked the scene. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.960 It's so weird. Um when I saw them together, I 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:09.280 remember that character as the cuckoo date rape girl. No, no, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.520 there's no way down the road. I could see how 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:18.120 you would think that though, because she does like look 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.599 like she could want to be I want to be Kelly. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.600 I could see that. Yeah. There were times when I 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.800 was like, hey, is that No, that's not Kelly, that's whatever. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.280 Her name was Laura. In fact, off show, we had 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.120 this conversation like how do we know her? And we 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.400 know her and we were like, did she play like 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:39.240 your sister and something like she could be? Yeah, Kelly 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.840 she worked a lot like back then and up until 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.559 you know, whenever she's she's a great actress. But her 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:51.439 character was and I feel bad not liking her because 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.600 she did her job. Well, yeah, do you feel sympathy 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.760 for her because she obviously was crushing so hard on Steve. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.520 I also liked how they did the two versions her flash. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.840 I mean, it's the whole like that. Yeah, because I 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:13.880 wasn't there. I hated it. What didn't you like movies? Like? 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.760 I was like, oh, like kep showing her bra and 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.040 her boobies. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's a 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.240 lot for And it was all black and white, which 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.560 I liked, but it made it seem just so much 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.960 more boobyish. I don't know everything they talk about for 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.679 that time period, the bra and was too much for you? 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.400 It was. And then just like when in her version 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.199 when she it's like a you know, not a happy situation. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.200 When when I don't like seeing I didn't like seeing 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.880 Steve act as if he was doing it and being 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.640 aggressive with her, and like him when he threw her 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.080 down on the bed, he's like that sound. I didn't 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.720 like it. I don't like it because he doesn't get 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.600 a full hale pass. He still jerk. Yeah. I wanted 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.720 to feel bad for but I couldn't because he's a cheerer. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.840 Yeah yeah, why okay? I God have so many questions. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.000 First of all, when you watched it and you saw 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.680 both versions, did you immediately know, of course Steve's version 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.719 is the real version the truth or do you think 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.720 the truth was somewhere a little bit more in the middle. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.840 The middle. Do you think in the middle you think 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.240 a little more skewed. I think it's definitely he was 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.599 telling the right version. But I think when you know, machismo, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.880 like like I know, I don't know, I think a 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:46.200 man's version is probably a little skewed, more like ego. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.679 There's an ego based. But I didn't feel like there 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.920 was a middle situation at all, because we we know 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.480 Steve really well, such a kind hearted person, and he's 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:02.920 so tender and you know, he valued use that like that, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.000 that the act of like loving, you know, like he's 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.160 so that way, and I just she just her character. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.960 We don't know her, we don't trust her, we don't 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.560 feel for her. And she comes in and she just 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.600 wants a kid guy and she's just so you know, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.439 that's her mom. And I just felt like I didn't 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.960 see him having a partner at all other than just 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.439 you know, thinking with his you know what, yeah and 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:33.480 getting called Actually, I actually think they really pushed it 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.640 to have him sleep with her, because I don't think 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:42.120 the Steve, that the real Steve would have I get 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:47.640 it's a show and whatever. I'm sure I agree with you. Yeah, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.440 I don't think he would have was not into her. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.160 He loves the last He didn't want any part of this, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.000 Like when it comes right down to it, like he 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.040 was flirty with the New York girl and he's always 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.120 google boggling over Kelly. But they had a pass. Yeah, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.120 but there was there's that part of Steve that he 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.520 would he wouldn't take it all the way. I don't think. Yeah, 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.480 I just don't believe that. Sorry, sorry you guys. It's 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.480 just a young guy, first year of college. I just 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.480 think I don't know things happen. I don't think you're 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.720 always a bad guy. But I think men, especially young guys, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:31.080 like they think with their other head and it oh man, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.240 I don't want to hear that. They think with their pep. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.800 What do you want to hear? I think it's an 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:42.840 interesting question because he was not into her. He really 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.320 didn't want to go on the date. He was doing 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.040 it as a brother. I feel like he would have 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.640 just been like, great nights, you never like. I don't know. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.080 I don't buy it. It didn't track with me that 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.680 he actually would have slept with her. Maybe if it 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.960 was but he did. Maybe if it was Kelly, but 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:07.800 but he did so so bad though, when when it 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.720 was breakup time for celest like, she was so sweet 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.600 and cute in that scene in the in the peach 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.000 pit when they're breaking up and my heart just broke 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.920 for her. Wait, is that it for them? Amy? You know? 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.880 She back? That's it? No, I think she comes back 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.520 because I don't want to sell her on her show yet. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.000 And I love her, we love her. There's more. I 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.320 actually didn't love her performance. I think I wrote down 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:41.000 Jennifer was doing bad acting. Wait, wait, hell do I know? Okay, well, 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:47.840 I guess she won't come on our show either, But 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:52.240 I did. I felt her feelings. I felt her sadness 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.560 in that moment, and I felt she did a great job. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.880 But what do I know? A lot that said, but 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.600 she does have gray hair always, so you know what, Yeah, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.920 she's and she's great. In the rest of the episode, 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.720 I just thought maybe it was a little hard. That 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:15.240 was a hard scene. But the whole episode is really good. Like, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.880 what did you think? It felt very contemporary. I don't 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.600 know if that's like quite the right word, because when 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.280 you say contemporary, it's like, no, it really did. Even 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:31.920 the dialogue except Brandon calling Brenda chick like, but there's 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:36.120 a couple of piggy moments. Yeah, but yeah, you know, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:41.360 yeah it did, it did. Okay, so let's go back 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.200 to the beginning. So we we immediately know that this 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.960 is going to be sort of the take Back the 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.880 Night episode stop Violence against Women, and we get into 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.680 that really quickly. It's take Back the Night week, and 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:58.320 we see Lucinda lecturing, so it's like, Lucinda is not 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.520 going anywhere, so she's around, yeah, and we know that 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.320 Brandon's got to go there for dinner. So then the 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:05.920 other thing I thought, Okay, so we go to the 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.200 Keghouse and they're really I'm not sure brothers in a 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.239 fraternity would be doing what they're doing to Steve, Like 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.720 Laura's calling, here's the fun, you know, like I feel 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.080 like we can only defer to you on this because 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.640 we don't know. I don't in college. I think if 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.439 a bunch of dudes are in the fraternity together and 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.080 one guy's like, you know, this girl likes me, I'm 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.119 not indoor, I don't think they're going to go the opposite. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.280 They would have sort of been like, we get it, bro, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.840 you know really, yeah, here's me piping in and I 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.040 never went to college. I feel like men would be like, 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.040 what do you what's wrong with you? She's hot, just 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.040 go with her. I don't know, I mean I feel 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.320 like that voice first of all voice pretty good. Fraternity 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.240 boys are pretty respectful of like the dude with the 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.200 girlfriend that has never matched up for me. I mean 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.840 all the yeah, I mean yeah, and they're also soup 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.639 were protective of each other. They just would not be 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:08.000 like throwing throwing under the bus. And like young men 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.520 in general, like stand up for the girlfriend. They're always like, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.800 you're young, like live your life, go with the Really, 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.000 it's not my experience. Yeah, like all the dude the 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:22.719 dude had a girlfriend, and especially if the girlfriend was 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.560 at the same school. Maybe if the girlfriend was like 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.359 long distance, they might be like, come on, bro, have 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.360 fun with us, you know whatever. But if the girlfriends 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.720 at the same school, it was not my experience. But like, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.600 I guess not the guys we were around at that time, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:41.280 and alternative boys get a bad rap on. No, I'm 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.199 just talking about men in general when they're young and horny, right. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.960 I think the one thing about this episode that was 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:53.000 a little bit maybe uh dated was how it was, 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.800 so this happens to women and only women, and this 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.480 is what men do where it is not white like that, 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:04.760 and I actually Andrea, Yeah, Andrea was sort of taking 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.040 the other perspective a little bit. I felt like, wait, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.320 whoa and that I don't know. I didn't know what 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.240 was she was. I didn't know what she was doing 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.720 in that moment when she piped up, I felt like 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:20.400 she was really being strong. It was she defending guys 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.200 in that situation or was she just saying, look, there's 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.960 two sides to the coin. I think she wants women 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.480 to take responsibility to if there was a case where 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.120 like a Laura, I think she was sort of almost 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.280 foreshadowing that in that, Look, if you want to pursue 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.600 a man and you you can. This doesn't just have 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.399 to be about like the man has to be the pursuer, 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.239 but you also have to take ownership of that and 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:51.320 you you can't later than say do you know what 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.680 I mean? Like Laura was the initiatively had I mean 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.640 one of my favorite scene in it. Actually sorry I'm 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:02.879 skiving Hedgen, but but I didn't say, you know, I 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.200 didn't say no, but I didn't know I didn't say yes, 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:09.880 but I didn't say no, which is Andrew's point probably, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:15.160 and there unless the comply crux, because that's the thing. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:20.080 It's a fine line and it's hard to decide which 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.359 you know which can't you want to be with the 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:30.640 you know? Yeah? I think maybe the three version is 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:36.080 you also are allowed to say yes without feeling bad 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.520 about yourself. I think that's something that is now, do 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.640 you know what I'm saying? Like, I think the real 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.280 version with Laura is that she really wanted to sleep 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.080 with Steve, probably for the wrong reasons because she thought 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.879 it was going to get her the boyfriend. But she 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.560 I believe she was the aggressor she's been calling him. 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:57.560 She's really pursuing him, and she doesn't have to necessarily 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:00.480 feel shame about that, But she can't then flipped the 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:04.560 script on him, right, Did she feel shame or was 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.879 she pissed and so she did that Maybe she was 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:14.040 dissembarrassed that Yeah, maybe she's embarrassed that he didn't reciprocate 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.560 her feelings about it, or when she's embarrassed her like 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.880 I'm going to take him down because I wanted him. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.000 He didn't reciprocate these feelings, so at him, I'm going 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.200 I'm going to go for it. And he had a girlfriend, 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.720 which is kind of a d move. So let me 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.919 ask you guys, this doesn't Laura also say she didn't 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:37.160 say yes, but she didn't say no? Does she repeat 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.800 that line? I think for me that didn't track because 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:47.800 she did she said yes, yeah, and now she's saying 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.040 she said no. But who knows because none of us 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.359 were in the room. We only have the two flashbacks 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.040 to go to go off of. Right, the takeaway for 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:01.720 me was that Steve's version was the more accurate version 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.440 where she was the pursuer. She was the one who 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:11.800 was really signifying yes, agreed yeah. Her quote was I 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.520 didn't say yes, but I never said no. But I 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.639 think she did say yes. But that's debatable and everyone 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.680 could have their own perspective because she really would. She 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.920 didn't say as but she but she said yes right 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.680 as as moms. Have you guys ever seen that booby? 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:42.600 She said yes? Yes. Hey. I'm Lance Bass, host of 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.840 the New I Heart podcast Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.760 The hardest thing could be knowing who to turn to 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.840 when questions arise, or times get tough or you're at 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.480 the end of the road. Okay, I see what you're doing. 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.960 Do you ever think to yourself, what advice would Lance 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.880 Bass and my favorite boy bands give me in this situation? 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.359 If you do, you've come to the right place, because 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.680 I'm here to help this. 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Have you, guys 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.159 seen your kids that have these apps or whatever? Are 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:55.080 these papers that they want? Like almost like you press 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.920 a button on an app to say yes, do you 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:01.160 guys in time out? I'm sorry, I need the Apple 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.119 a button that says no, no no, no no no. 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.119 I mean they're not there yet, but I could be 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:09.960 wrong because I don't have teenagers, but I'm pretty sure 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.400 my mom friends have said, like they really teach now 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.960