Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
Speaker 1: we are back. It is nine two one oh MG
Speaker 1: with us three fabulous ladies. Happy New Year. Hi, Happy
Speaker 1: New Year. Uh my co host and bestie. You sound
Speaker 1: a little sexy. Why does always sound a little sexy? Oh?
Speaker 1: I got the vid? Oh who I hear everyone's doing it?
Speaker 1: Do you? No? I got it? I got it. I
Speaker 1: learned to be like you and I got it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna admit something that you're gonna be like.
Speaker 1: Oh to t am I. So when girlfriends are closed,
Speaker 1: their cycles sync up, and that's always happened to us,
Speaker 1: and now our VIDs have like SYNCD up. So twice
Speaker 1: we almost made it twice in one year. So I
Speaker 1: had it twice in one year. You had it almost
Speaker 1: twice in one year because you got it right January
Speaker 1: January last year, and then I got again January this year.
Speaker 1: But last year we got it back to back, and
Speaker 1: this year we got it back to back, just once again,
Speaker 1: proving to you guys that even though things change in life,
Speaker 1: like we have you know, pandemic, epidemic, tridemic, what do
Speaker 1: we have right now? Bestie still sync up, Kelly and
Speaker 1: Dona lucky us. Okay, So here's the thing, though, I've
Speaker 1: been in bed since Monday, like you know, in my
Speaker 1: banished to my bedroom where because my other nobody else
Speaker 1: in my family got it? Thank God. The craziest thing
Speaker 1: is I had an eightieth birthday party for my mom
Speaker 1: on Sunday, January one, and on the on that night,
Speaker 1: I started to not feel well. And then the next
Speaker 1: morning I tested positive. She didn't. I was so we
Speaker 1: didn't get it to me, but I didn't give it
Speaker 1: to me me like in all the wood and yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else got it, which is insane.
Speaker 1: But I've been you know, I tested. I want to
Speaker 1: leave my room, and I want to see my daughter,
Speaker 1: who's home, my Lola. She's home from from college and
Speaker 1: I wanted to spend time with her and I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to. So here's my lady. I'm so nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous. Oh my god. Okay, ready, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you. I'm so nervous. Was it saying, oh, Mama,
Speaker 1: you're so positive, but they say you can test positive
Speaker 1: for up to are you sure? Geez? I thought you're
Speaker 1: coming with that one. I don't know. What I was
Speaker 1: thinking about. Is what I was thinking is you can
Speaker 1: go from positive to negative, like you might be negative
Speaker 1: tomorrow or even tonight. Just do it again. I keep saying,
Speaker 1: how many? So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, it's Friday. So
Speaker 1: we're taping this on Friday, guys, so that's five days.
Speaker 1: I think you might have a couple one day. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't take it. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm lose my mind. I'm busting out today. Okay, but
Speaker 1: we're going to look at the silver lining here. And
Speaker 1: I was really proud of you because you posted this
Speaker 1: on on Instagram some days ago and that you have
Speaker 1: decided in three to slow down because she does she
Speaker 1: does everything for everyone moves at lightning pace. Um, and
Speaker 1: this you were saying, maybe this was a sign that
Speaker 1: it was gonna Your body was telling you to slow
Speaker 1: itself down. I guess so, yeah, that was my my
Speaker 1: word for the year, slow down my two words. I
Speaker 1: guess so because we've both been sick, I gotta say you, guys,
Speaker 1: my my New Year's wish came true. You got highlights.
Speaker 1: It looks so pretty. Oh my god, I got my
Speaker 1: I know you don't feel great right now, but you
Speaker 1: look really pretty and you're giving me total telly from
Speaker 1: this episode. I agree with no bangs and like hair back,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yes, no, you told me that. Um basically
Speaker 1: I looked ugly with brown hair and tst things like that.
Speaker 1: Did I say that? No? What did you say? I
Speaker 1: don't even remember, but you were like you are a
Speaker 1: blonde or something like that. Face it, but I was still.
Speaker 1: It's one thing we've all been through a lot of therapy.
Speaker 1: We know how to phrase things to people without trying
Speaker 1: to make them feel bad. I did not say you
Speaker 1: looked ugly. That's what your brain brain hurt. That Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful people. I got it. I
Speaker 1: got it lightened just for you. I said, you're a
Speaker 1: blonded heart. I guess I am, but I don't care
Speaker 1: like I just I don't really care. So when my
Speaker 1: hair like it grows out, I start to become like
Speaker 1: a brunette and I like it, and but other people
Speaker 1: around me, I guess, don't love it as much. So
Speaker 1: it's not that I don't like it. I thought you
Speaker 1: look good. I just love you. Okay, Well, this is
Speaker 1: a hair issue. We've been dealing with for thirty years.
Speaker 1: She always gets mad and I'm like, I like your
Speaker 1: hair longer, and then she has her hair short and
Speaker 1: then she's like, Okay, it was better longer and not
Speaker 1: to It's like the one thing I can ever get right,
Speaker 1: not to be kiss as. See how they always say
Speaker 1: I'm kiss as you kiss as Yeah, Oh you're so,
Speaker 1: isn't it wouldn't be actually as kissy whatever. But Tori,
Speaker 1: you posted a family photo with a crop top and
Speaker 1: you looked super huh, okay, thank you, thank you. That
Speaker 1: was my one night out, But really it was in
Speaker 1: because we just transport our sick family to a hotel.
Speaker 1: We weren't sick or contagious by the time we went
Speaker 1: to a hotel. But um we went to Park AVR
Speaker 1: and it was so good that we stayed in we
Speaker 1: didn't go outside. So but I did want to judge
Speaker 1: myself up because I feel like I've been in literally
Speaker 1: this sweat outfit. So I'm back to the sweat outfit
Speaker 1: and I'm going to wear it all of two twenty three.
Speaker 1: So John, if you get sick of it, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm wearing unless I go out for that and
Speaker 1: it has green pants matching Oh great, matching pants like
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills vibe. I am, but I'm like the opposite
Speaker 1: the Grinch. No, I'm our favorite color. Yes, okay, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to change the subject. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I always admitt it like I did put like a
Speaker 1: filter on my face because I succumbed to all the
Speaker 1: pressures on Instagram. I did not photoshop anything or even
Speaker 1: smooth on my stomach. Look great, it's all real. Nice. Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys tell me about this episode because I liked it.
Speaker 1: It's a favorite. Yeah is it? Oh no, you didn't
Speaker 1: like it. I liked it. It was it was you know,
Speaker 1: I liked it. I don't know, maybe theory. I had
Speaker 1: a theory and why I liked it. I would love
Speaker 1: your input because everything was really about the one storyline.
Speaker 1: Everybody's mini stories were still back on the main storyline,
Speaker 1: and I think for me, I was like, I love that.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like why is that happening? It was
Speaker 1: like even though everyone had their own angles and different things,
Speaker 1: it seemed really like centered. I feel you. I feel
Speaker 1: you that I feel the same way. I love it.
Speaker 1: When the episode everything's tied together and you're not all
Speaker 1: scattered everywhere with everybody else's storylines because it sort of
Speaker 1: diminishes it. I agree, And maybe that's why often I
Speaker 1: tell you guys that go, oh, I'm bored because no
Speaker 1: offense to anyone. Maybe if it's a storyline I'm not
Speaker 1: as invested in. I kind of like zone out. Wait
Speaker 1: wait wait. But because everybody's storyline was about this one
Speaker 1: thing and came together, I loved every second of it.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I'm very happy. So well, I liked it.
Speaker 1: I did not like it. There wasn't I used. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing backflips over anything right now, so but I
Speaker 1: really they didn't like it, and I thought everybody did
Speaker 1: such a great job. We are talking about season four,
Speaker 1: episode eleven, take Back the Night, aired November sevent Synopsis.
Speaker 1: Take Back the Night Week raises some tough questions amongst
Speaker 1: the group. Laura's about to make a huge accusation against
Speaker 1: Steve Sanders, John Sears Fine Way Shows has true colors,
Speaker 1: and may he likes Pie, so Less gets her heartbroken
Speaker 1: and Brandon gets blackmailed. Directed by James Whitmore Jr. Written
Speaker 1: by Chip Johansson. Can I be controversial? Right from the start. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I've been waiting to say the water cooler moment. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Tracy Mittendorff plays Laura, and she was like around
Speaker 1: like I think she was maybe on Days of our
Speaker 1: Lives at some point. I don't know she was on
Speaker 1: like she was the second Carrie Brady on Days for
Speaker 1: Our Lives. Yeah, she was always in different things, right,
Speaker 1: But I think this was the first I've ever saw her.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for saying this, but for her entire career,
Speaker 1: every time I always saw her, I found her annoying.
Speaker 1: And I literally think it's because of this Laura, God
Speaker 1: bless her is annoying. So I am wondering if for
Speaker 1: that girl's entire career, every time she would pop up,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, like, I never liked her as the
Speaker 1: other carry not because I don't like Tracy Minendoor if
Speaker 1: she's not a good actress, but I think it was
Speaker 1: because always Laura. I was like, w t F Laura,
Speaker 1: Like I get it, it's messy, but like, WHOA, yeah,
Speaker 1: is not going to come on this show. I mean
Speaker 1: we sealed that deal. It's okay. I want to ask
Speaker 1: her about Days realized. Sorry, go ahead when I got
Speaker 1: when I saw that Kelly was getting all twisted up
Speaker 1: it with Laura. I was like, no, don't get involved,
Speaker 1: She's going to bring you into a crazy world. But
Speaker 1: I did like you guys together. I liked the scene.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. Um when I saw them together, I
Speaker 1: remember that character as the cuckoo date rape girl. No, no,
Speaker 1: there's no way down the road. I could see how
Speaker 1: you would think that though, because she does like look
Speaker 1: like she could want to be I want to be Kelly.
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah. There were times when I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, is that No, that's not Kelly, that's whatever.
Speaker 1: Her name was Laura. In fact, off show, we had
Speaker 1: this conversation like how do we know her? And we
Speaker 1: know her and we were like, did she play like
Speaker 1: your sister and something like she could be? Yeah, Kelly
Speaker 1: she worked a lot like back then and up until
Speaker 1: you know, whenever she's she's a great actress. But her
Speaker 1: character was and I feel bad not liking her because
Speaker 1: she did her job. Well, yeah, do you feel sympathy
Speaker 1: for her because she obviously was crushing so hard on Steve.
Speaker 1: I also liked how they did the two versions her flash.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the whole like that. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I hated it. What didn't you like movies? Like?
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like kep showing her bra and
Speaker 1: her boobies. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's a
Speaker 1: lot for And it was all black and white, which
Speaker 1: I liked, but it made it seem just so much
Speaker 1: more boobyish. I don't know everything they talk about for
Speaker 1: that time period, the bra and was too much for you?
Speaker 1: It was. And then just like when in her version
Speaker 1: when she it's like a you know, not a happy situation.
Speaker 1: When when I don't like seeing I didn't like seeing
Speaker 1: Steve act as if he was doing it and being
Speaker 1: aggressive with her, and like him when he threw her
Speaker 1: down on the bed, he's like that sound. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. I don't like it because he doesn't get
Speaker 1: a full hale pass. He still jerk. Yeah. I wanted
Speaker 1: to feel bad for but I couldn't because he's a cheerer.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, why okay? I God have so many questions.
Speaker 1: First of all, when you watched it and you saw
Speaker 1: both versions, did you immediately know, of course Steve's version
Speaker 1: is the real version the truth or do you think
Speaker 1: the truth was somewhere a little bit more in the middle.
Speaker 1: The middle. Do you think in the middle you think
Speaker 1: a little more skewed. I think it's definitely he was
Speaker 1: telling the right version. But I think when you know, machismo,
Speaker 1: like like I know, I don't know, I think a
Speaker 1: man's version is probably a little skewed, more like ego.
Speaker 1: There's an ego based. But I didn't feel like there
Speaker 1: was a middle situation at all, because we we know
Speaker 1: Steve really well, such a kind hearted person, and he's
Speaker 1: so tender and you know, he valued use that like that,
Speaker 1: that the act of like loving, you know, like he's
Speaker 1: so that way, and I just she just her character.
Speaker 1: We don't know her, we don't trust her, we don't
Speaker 1: feel for her. And she comes in and she just
Speaker 1: wants a kid guy and she's just so you know,
Speaker 1: that's her mom. And I just felt like I didn't
Speaker 1: see him having a partner at all other than just
Speaker 1: you know, thinking with his you know what, yeah and
Speaker 1: getting called Actually, I actually think they really pushed it
Speaker 1: to have him sleep with her, because I don't think
Speaker 1: the Steve, that the real Steve would have I get
Speaker 1: it's a show and whatever. I'm sure I agree with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have was not into her.
Speaker 1: He loves the last He didn't want any part of this,
Speaker 1: Like when it comes right down to it, like he
Speaker 1: was flirty with the New York girl and he's always
Speaker 1: google boggling over Kelly. But they had a pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there was there's that part of Steve that he
Speaker 1: would he wouldn't take it all the way. I don't think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't believe that. Sorry, sorry you guys. It's
Speaker 1: just a young guy, first year of college. I just
Speaker 1: think I don't know things happen. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: always a bad guy. But I think men, especially young guys,
Speaker 1: like they think with their other head and it oh man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. They think with their pep.
Speaker 1: What do you want to hear? I think it's an
Speaker 1: interesting question because he was not into her. He really
Speaker 1: didn't want to go on the date. He was doing
Speaker 1: it as a brother. I feel like he would have
Speaker 1: just been like, great nights, you never like. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. It didn't track with me that
Speaker 1: he actually would have slept with her. Maybe if it
Speaker 1: was but he did. Maybe if it was Kelly, but
Speaker 1: but he did so so bad though, when when it
Speaker 1: was breakup time for celest like, she was so sweet
Speaker 1: and cute in that scene in the in the peach
Speaker 1: pit when they're breaking up and my heart just broke
Speaker 1: for her. Wait, is that it for them? Amy? You know?
Speaker 1: She back? That's it? No, I think she comes back
Speaker 1: because I don't want to sell her on her show yet.
Speaker 1: And I love her, we love her. There's more. I
Speaker 1: actually didn't love her performance. I think I wrote down
Speaker 1: Jennifer was doing bad acting. Wait, wait, hell do I know? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I guess she won't come on our show either, But
Speaker 1: I did. I felt her feelings. I felt her sadness
Speaker 1: in that moment, and I felt she did a great job.
Speaker 1: But what do I know? A lot that said, but
Speaker 1: she does have gray hair always, so you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's and she's great. In the rest of the episode,
Speaker 1: I just thought maybe it was a little hard. That
Speaker 1: was a hard scene. But the whole episode is really good. Like,
Speaker 1: what did you think? It felt very contemporary. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's like quite the right word, because when
Speaker 1: you say contemporary, it's like, no, it really did. Even
Speaker 1: the dialogue except Brandon calling Brenda chick like, but there's
Speaker 1: a couple of piggy moments. Yeah, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah it did, it did. Okay, so let's go back
Speaker 1: to the beginning. So we we immediately know that this
Speaker 1: is going to be sort of the take Back the
Speaker 1: Night episode stop Violence against Women, and we get into
Speaker 1: that really quickly. It's take Back the Night week, and
Speaker 1: we see Lucinda lecturing, so it's like, Lucinda is not
Speaker 1: going anywhere, so she's around, yeah, and we know that
Speaker 1: Brandon's got to go there for dinner. So then the
Speaker 1: other thing I thought, Okay, so we go to the
Speaker 1: Keghouse and they're really I'm not sure brothers in a
Speaker 1: fraternity would be doing what they're doing to Steve, Like
Speaker 1: Laura's calling, here's the fun, you know, like I feel
Speaker 1: like we can only defer to you on this because
Speaker 1: we don't know. I don't in college. I think if
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes are in the fraternity together and
Speaker 1: one guy's like, you know, this girl likes me, I'm
Speaker 1: not indoor, I don't think they're going to go the opposite.
Speaker 1: They would have sort of been like, we get it, bro,
Speaker 1: you know really, yeah, here's me piping in and I
Speaker 1: never went to college. I feel like men would be like,
Speaker 1: what do you what's wrong with you? She's hot, just
Speaker 1: go with her. I don't know, I mean I feel
Speaker 1: like that voice first of all voice pretty good. Fraternity
Speaker 1: boys are pretty respectful of like the dude with the
Speaker 1: girlfriend that has never matched up for me. I mean
Speaker 1: all the yeah, I mean yeah, and they're also soup
Speaker 1: were protective of each other. They just would not be
Speaker 1: like throwing throwing under the bus. And like young men
Speaker 1: in general, like stand up for the girlfriend. They're always like,
Speaker 1: you're young, like live your life, go with the Really,
Speaker 1: it's not my experience. Yeah, like all the dude the
Speaker 1: dude had a girlfriend, and especially if the girlfriend was
Speaker 1: at the same school. Maybe if the girlfriend was like
Speaker 1: long distance, they might be like, come on, bro, have
Speaker 1: fun with us, you know whatever. But if the girlfriends
Speaker 1: at the same school, it was not my experience. But like,
Speaker 1: I guess not the guys we were around at that time,
Speaker 1: and alternative boys get a bad rap on. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about men in general when they're young and horny, right.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing about this episode that was
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe uh dated was how it was,
Speaker 1: so this happens to women and only women, and this
Speaker 1: is what men do where it is not white like that,
Speaker 1: and I actually Andrea, Yeah, Andrea was sort of taking
Speaker 1: the other perspective a little bit. I felt like, wait,
Speaker 1: whoa and that I don't know. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was she was. I didn't know what she was doing
Speaker 1: in that moment when she piped up, I felt like
Speaker 1: she was really being strong. It was she defending guys
Speaker 1: in that situation or was she just saying, look, there's
Speaker 1: two sides to the coin. I think she wants women
Speaker 1: to take responsibility to if there was a case where
Speaker 1: like a Laura, I think she was sort of almost
Speaker 1: foreshadowing that in that, Look, if you want to pursue
Speaker 1: a man and you you can. This doesn't just have
Speaker 1: to be about like the man has to be the pursuer,
Speaker 1: but you also have to take ownership of that and
Speaker 1: you you can't later than say do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like Laura was the initiatively had I mean
Speaker 1: one of my favorite scene in it. Actually sorry I'm
Speaker 1: skiving Hedgen, but but I didn't say, you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't say no, but I didn't know I didn't say yes,
Speaker 1: but I didn't say no, which is Andrew's point probably,
Speaker 1: and there unless the comply crux, because that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's a fine line and it's hard to decide which
Speaker 1: you know which can't you want to be with the
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah? I think maybe the three version is
Speaker 1: you also are allowed to say yes without feeling bad
Speaker 1: about yourself. I think that's something that is now, do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, I think the real
Speaker 1: version with Laura is that she really wanted to sleep
Speaker 1: with Steve, probably for the wrong reasons because she thought
Speaker 1: it was going to get her the boyfriend. But she
Speaker 1: I believe she was the aggressor she's been calling him.
Speaker 1: She's really pursuing him, and she doesn't have to necessarily
Speaker 1: feel shame about that, But she can't then flipped the
Speaker 1: script on him, right, Did she feel shame or was
Speaker 1: she pissed and so she did that Maybe she was
Speaker 1: dissembarrassed that Yeah, maybe she's embarrassed that he didn't reciprocate
Speaker 1: her feelings about it, or when she's embarrassed her like
Speaker 1: I'm going to take him down because I wanted him.
Speaker 1: He didn't reciprocate these feelings, so at him, I'm going
Speaker 1: I'm going to go for it. And he had a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a d move. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you guys, this doesn't Laura also say she didn't
Speaker 1: say yes, but she didn't say no? Does she repeat
Speaker 1: that line? I think for me that didn't track because
Speaker 1: she did she said yes, yeah, and now she's saying
Speaker 1: she said no. But who knows because none of us
Speaker 1: were in the room. We only have the two flashbacks
Speaker 1: to go to go off of. Right, the takeaway for
Speaker 1: me was that Steve's version was the more accurate version
Speaker 1: where she was the pursuer. She was the one who
Speaker 1: was really signifying yes, agreed yeah. Her quote was I
Speaker 1: didn't say yes, but I never said no. But I
Speaker 1: think she did say yes. But that's debatable and everyone
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Speaker 1: seen your kids that have these apps or whatever? Are
Speaker 1: these papers that they want? Like almost like you press
Speaker 1: a button on an app to say yes, do you
Speaker 1: guys in time out? I'm sorry, I need the Apple
Speaker 1: a button that says no, no no, no no no.
Speaker 1: I mean they're not there yet, but I could be
Speaker 1: wrong because I don't have teenagers, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: my mom friends have said, like they really teach now
Speaker 1: that it's you must say yes right, that the boys
Speaker 1: are supposed to say, like Jenny, is it okay if
Speaker 1: I kiss you? Yes? And then is it okay if
Speaker 1: I touch your boobs? Or I mean, that's what they
Speaker 1: teach and that's what we see. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's actually happened out there in the field, right
Speaker 1: I r L Yeah, I mean that's definitely. I thought
Speaker 1: there's some like you both press an app. I don't
Speaker 1: never have you seen it? Why couldn't they just say
Speaker 1: it in real to each other? Why they have to
Speaker 1: push an app? My kids are so naive and grateful
Speaker 1: for that, like my fourteen and fifth year old, like, goodness,
Speaker 1: not there yet and I'm okay with that, but that's good.
Speaker 1: So you're saying they press something instead of saying it
Speaker 1: if they're embarrassed. There's like I think Jenny's righting that
Speaker 1: no app is called consent. The consent, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone uses it. I don't know that app. I'm
Speaker 1: going to download it and use it tonight. What are
Speaker 1: you nuts? Wait, I'm seriously looking it up on the
Speaker 1: app store right now. What did you think about that
Speaker 1: Nat loved Laura? I was like, oh god, just a
Speaker 1: few checkboxes away. Oh my gosh, Wow, that takes some
Speaker 1: mood out, Like that kills a mood. That's so two
Speaker 1: three everything's quick. Consent is that it I don't see it.
Speaker 1: The consent really blow out my trustee phone. I'm sorry, Amy,
Speaker 1: what were you saying that? You know? One of the
Speaker 1: things about Laura is she really was, um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: doing the psycho girl thing where she's you know, she's
Speaker 1: befriending Andrea. She's befriending She's in there. She's charming the
Speaker 1: you know, sharp charming Nat and that you know, he
Speaker 1: really was like pleasure was mine, sweetheart? You know, like
Speaker 1: she's really worming her way into Steve's world. I just
Speaker 1: remember back in the nineties being so uncomfortable with Laura.
Speaker 1: Everything about her can be uncomfortable. Yeah, me too, m great,
Speaker 1: But now because she's younger and we're older at the time,
Speaker 1: we're not like as threatened by That's right, Tory. That's
Speaker 1: such a great point. I do see her differently now
Speaker 1: she's not quite so it's sort of you feel sorry
Speaker 1: for her now I just feel sorry for Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really changed because looking at her then she could be
Speaker 1: our all of our daughters. I'm telling you now, you go, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: how did you guys feel? I just want to which
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this storyline. Okay, how did you guys feel? Okay?
Speaker 1: Then we had the Lucinda Brandon thing. Listen to Brandon,
Speaker 1: Deshaun knows what's up one meal and this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: he's sitting down and he's like he could you could
Speaker 1: see that he realizes what's happening, and then he calls
Speaker 1: it up and use it to his advantage because he's smart. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's so cringe e Like she's doing all that
Speaker 1: right in front of her husband. Well, and she's the opposite.
Speaker 1: She is the aggressor to an inappropriate point. She wants
Speaker 1: to take back the night in a different way. So
Speaker 1: she's she's the adult version of Laura in this the
Speaker 1: y a little slicker and just put together so no
Speaker 1: one would suspect it. She's you know, I think the
Speaker 1: writers were quite intentional with that story, like smart, I
Speaker 1: don't like Lucinda at all. Like that character. She's a
Speaker 1: saucy lady who owns her power, but her power is
Speaker 1: being abused, uses her power or femininity, her her and
Speaker 1: her stature, Like I don't. I don't like her character. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it's interesting because we're talking about then and now.
Speaker 1: So then I was all like this, Lucinda is awful,
Speaker 1: and I was so like, I don't know, I didn't
Speaker 1: like her. And I'm not talking about you know, Dina,
Speaker 1: Like it was the character of Lucenda. But now I
Speaker 1: look at it and there was something that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: not that I want to be that person, but I
Speaker 1: was like, young, a bit of that confidence in power.
Speaker 1: I totally what you're saying. She's sexy and powerful and
Speaker 1: strong and unintimidated, but she's also a married woman and
Speaker 1: this Brandon has told her no, and Brandon has been
Speaker 1: very righteous and doing the right thing all through. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Oh we just said oh my god about
Speaker 1: Oh my God. If Brandon gives in and the storyline
Speaker 1: goes in the direction where they do get together, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be so upset that doesn't happen? Does it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you want a dream just hits you? Sorry,
Speaker 1: getting back to your question one second? Sorry? Sorry? Do
Speaker 1: you know you just realize your dream because you're talking
Speaker 1: about something? What I think? Because I watched the episode
Speaker 1: last night? Did you dream of Jason Prisley? Oh? Dirty? No?
Speaker 1: A dirty one or just a regular one? Oh? Those eyes?
Speaker 1: You had a sex dream about JP? I didn't say sex,
Speaker 1: a dirty one? What was he in the mud? What?
Speaker 1: I don't understand? What are you doing something? We won't
Speaker 1: be showing us with iron all the time. The weirdest
Speaker 1: part is, oh my god, we were in a hotel room,
Speaker 1: but we were not alone, and we're with jen ear muffs.
Speaker 1: I'm not la la la la la la la Tiffany,
Speaker 1: and I'm messing with you. I just like to play
Speaker 1: into the press. It's non existent. But what the press says,
Speaker 1: we like to make poke fun of what the press
Speaker 1: like heightens and it's not true. Um, but she wasn't Tiffany.
Speaker 1: She was the Lucinda character. And yeah, I can hair style.
Speaker 1: This dream happened last night. Yes, And so the Jason character,
Speaker 1: who was probably Brandon in my dream, was like, let's
Speaker 1: go like, hey, you want to hook up? But basically
Speaker 1: it wasn't brand it was Brandon, it wasn't Jason, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't gross like, hey you want to hook up.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing a dude gross voice. Um. And I
Speaker 1: was like, she's right here, and she was like, you guys,
Speaker 1: I ordered breakfast in bed but it was night and
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was like, well, what you again?
Speaker 1: You just ate all the mashed potatoes and now I
Speaker 1: have nothing to eat him like that. I was so hungry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, I didn't eat less night in my ambient
Speaker 1: that's why. Okay. So and I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? She's right here and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: do you want to go in the bathroom? And I
Speaker 1: was like so. I was like, god, okay, I guess,
Speaker 1: but I don't really want to do this, like and
Speaker 1: then nothing happened. I woke up. Oh man, you have
Speaker 1: me on the edge of my seat. It's a bad ending,
Speaker 1: but but good story. That happens to me with Iron
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm just gonna admit it, Like every
Speaker 1: time I watched the show, I know I have like
Speaker 1: he gets in my dream. Not every time, but like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know the only thing my takeaways
Speaker 1: I just want mashed potatoes now, Okay, that makes me
Speaker 1: think though of this. You know the opening credits when
Speaker 1: Luke either whispers in your ear Tory, I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about it before he kisses you, so cute. I
Speaker 1: noticed it when I watched this particular episode. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: wonder what he saying, Let's go back on her. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's sort of uh yeah, like she's she needs to
Speaker 1: dial it back. And Brandon says to the to the husband,
Speaker 1: the teacher, whatever his name is he said, He says,
Speaker 1: right now to him, lustend as a player, all right,
Speaker 1: Like it's so heavy handed that this is this guy
Speaker 1: in on it or oh my god, remember she's like,
Speaker 1: have you ever done it on a kitchen table? Like
Speaker 1: it's so unique, modernized. I don't know what the word is,
Speaker 1: not swingers, because I don't think he want to be
Speaker 1: a relationship like something about it. Maybe he's the guy
Speaker 1: that couldn't get that girl and she's like we're together,
Speaker 1: but she's like, I want to do this and he
Speaker 1: kind of gets off maybe in some weird way kind
Speaker 1: of wink wink. I don't know. I think I remember
Speaker 1: he married this woman who's so all about this that
Speaker 1: maybe they do have an arrangement. Now that would be
Speaker 1: interesting and fun story line to watch. But that was
Speaker 1: very ahead of its time. But yeah, exactly, this whole
Speaker 1: episode is sort of ahead of its time. It really is.
Speaker 1: Were you guys happy to see um, Dylan and Brenda together?
Speaker 1: Like it's from the get go in the beginning in
Speaker 1: the hallway, that's cute to bother? Do you know what?
Speaker 1: I love? Though? When they're walking down the hallway and
Speaker 1: they're talking about their class and they're talking about their
Speaker 1: poetry thing, and Luke does that impression of the the professor.
Speaker 1: He's talk like zes or something. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: can't do it, but I can remember Luke always making that,
Speaker 1: doing that same accent, just making me laugh so hard.
Speaker 1: They totally improvised. Yes, I don't want to be a weird.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't want to be a weird.
Speaker 1: Really we need to be. There was sort of a
Speaker 1: wedding dress part two moments in the episode. Did you
Speaker 1: guys notice that the fresh you're talking about the end?
Speaker 1: I can't remember where it was in the episode, but
Speaker 1: I'm like it was at the very end. You know,
Speaker 1: I saw it because it really bothers me personally. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see nips on TV. Not her nips,
Speaker 1: not my nips, not anybody's nips. I'm not mad at
Speaker 1: it because it didn't. She was just like, this is
Speaker 1: getting to be a pattern. What was going on? I
Speaker 1: don't like it? Um, you know, And that reminded me
Speaker 1: that you brought that up. That reminded me this is
Speaker 1: another like one of those like realizations of about the
Speaker 1: environment in which we grew up in Toria, me and
Speaker 1: you and those girls of us on the show, the
Speaker 1: environment that we grew up and that wasn't very PC.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, uh, I remember the cameraman. I remember
Speaker 1: Jason always saying, or Luke always saying to the to
Speaker 1: the camera operator, where's the frame? What the frame? What's
Speaker 1: the shot? And the the the guy behind the camera
Speaker 1: would say, it's two tease, it's too tease. And I
Speaker 1: was always like, what's that mean to tease? But now
Speaker 1: I know it's that's their way of saying, it's right
Speaker 1: at her two tables and a microphone, where it's at
Speaker 1: tune in Tokyo. There was so many little references no better,
Speaker 1: and we would just laugh and go along with it,
Speaker 1: but normal. And then as we grew up when men
Speaker 1: didn't do that because they respected as we were like
Speaker 1: what what, what's wrong with us? Have you ever heard
Speaker 1: of camera person say that ever? Again? Two tease? Maybe
Speaker 1: that's like an expression, Maybe they say that for men
Speaker 1: to I don't know, but that in that moment of
Speaker 1: seeing the nips in the end of the episode again,
Speaker 1: I was like, two tease. It's two tease right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my gut would be it wasn't a good feeling if
Speaker 1: you remembered it, so clearly, I don't think you right. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of pigs, should we talk about on Sears? Yeah, sucks.
Speaker 1: Not want to see Kelly and John Sears macking it down.
Speaker 1: I did not want to hear the little squeals you
Speaker 1: made when you were saying like you weren't ready, You're like,
Speaker 1: it was not good. It was cringe worthy. I didn't
Speaker 1: get cringe nothing about it. He's an ass, which makes
Speaker 1: his characters are really good. Yeah. Yeah, No, he's a
Speaker 1: good actor too, because I completely forget Paul Johnson completely
Speaker 1: and am fully John Sears, like, I'm not like thinking
Speaker 1: about him. He's too good at it though. I think
Speaker 1: that was always my thing with with um Paul Johansson
Speaker 1: when we were working together. I couldn't keep the two
Speaker 1: separate separate. I was like, this guy is John Sears.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I wondered that. Yeah, I mean that makes
Speaker 1: sense because it is very seamless. Like, yeah, I couldn't
Speaker 1: like off camera. I couldn't cool with him. I couldn't
Speaker 1: like him. It couldn't be nice to him because I
Speaker 1: felt so icky around him character because of the character.
Speaker 1: The thing I think that's interesting too, is I never
Speaker 1: find myself going like, that's the dude from One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: When I'm watching this, I am very honed in on
Speaker 1: him being John Sears. You know that that works for
Speaker 1: me because I never saw one tree in my life.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he's gross. What do you think
Speaker 1: that she went to Dylan? Why did you do this?
Speaker 1: Why is she going running to Dylan? I liked it,
Speaker 1: but because he's her safe place. Yeah, he was very safe.
Speaker 1: He's like as long as you're okay. He wasn't like
Speaker 1: the heartbroken ex boyfriend. He was really the loyal friend
Speaker 1: and confidant like I really was like, huh, And he
Speaker 1: was pisted he was he didn't want to hit him.
Speaker 1: But in theory, I do feel like she wouldn't have gone.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that's something you do
Speaker 1: with your acts like you might me I'm wrong, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I guess if there wasn't a lot going
Speaker 1: on with Steve in this episode, would you have gone
Speaker 1: to him? Like who would you? And they're so undone,
Speaker 1: meaning they're they're not finished Kelly and Dylan, that's there.
Speaker 1: It's all a little that's a little bit twisted on
Speaker 1: that part. But what do you think about him? I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: it's so worth it with the pie the pie, but
Speaker 1: I'm not I kind of wanted to see him knock
Speaker 1: him out. He was gonna man, he had him in
Speaker 1: the face hard with that pie, like you know that
Speaker 1: had to hurt. I Actually, he liked the scene where
Speaker 1: he confronts him and says, like, you know, stay away
Speaker 1: from her. She decides you make her sick, and I
Speaker 1: like the whole scene was like, what's your problem? McKay?
Speaker 1: Like I liked that where he was like, dude, we've
Speaker 1: said this before. Other another episode like they're them together
Speaker 1: are great, Like they bring the most out of each
Speaker 1: other like they both have brought it Like Brandon episode. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I know I'm switching, but um he got heated at
Speaker 1: the end there too. Yeah, and he was He's want
Speaker 1: to say, christ Brandon's great with his steadiness of doing
Speaker 1: the right thing, like he's like, I am not gonna
Speaker 1: he yelled, I'm not gonna sleep with this married woman.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking your tests for you. I am not.
Speaker 1: You can, you can blackmail me all you want. But
Speaker 1: great in that episode, and not just because I had
Speaker 1: a sex stream about him last night. Like I thought
Speaker 1: he was great in that episode. I thought everyone was
Speaker 1: great in this episode. I really did too. That's why
Speaker 1: I really liked it. I think. Hi, I'm Christine Taylor
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Speaker 1: tell me your favorite lines from the episode. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have so much more to talk about. Time your
Speaker 1: time is up? Baby? Wait? Can I give it really
Speaker 1: fast story? But you have to say it. It's Leslie Sumner.
Speaker 1: She's still around like Pantelinic council. Did you guys know
Speaker 1: what Pantalonic was? Does that mean anything to you? Don't know?
Speaker 1: Don't care? Didn't look system? Next before we do best lines?
Speaker 1: Can I do cringe eest line? Okay? When they say
Speaker 1: are you going to the like the rally there'll be
Speaker 1: a lot of babes there. I was like, oh god, cringe,
Speaker 1: yeah that cringe e Then um, that looks like that
Speaker 1: look said you two are doing the sweet thing. That's
Speaker 1: that I think to Shawn said that about Brandon. Yes dead, Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, I already said about it. I didn't like
Speaker 1: when Brandon said, what do you say to you're still
Speaker 1: a cool chick or you're the coolest chick. I don't
Speaker 1: know the word chick really bothers me, Like, yeah, more
Speaker 1: than vagina. That bothers me. Right up there about Luscinda's
Speaker 1: denim on Denham tied up. I like that look. I
Speaker 1: like that, although she's kind of cringe for me. Did
Speaker 1: she say something about a younger, younger man, bolder woman?
Speaker 1: Did she say bolder older? I didn't see that. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear. And here I might have to like because
Speaker 1: I thought, oh she did, because she is that that's
Speaker 1: her thing bolder, and it's sort of like bullying. She's
Speaker 1: very like, yeah, can you guys explain to me? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't get it that everyone's doing it like whatever,
Speaker 1: even Charlie Chaplin, Like, I don't get it. Oh, Charlie Chaplin,
Speaker 1: I think was notorious for having many women. Am I okay?
Speaker 1: These many children I need? We're went down to Charlie
Speaker 1: Chaplin spiral like a few months ago, where I just
Speaker 1: started Wikipedia everything about him. I have no idea why
Speaker 1: I've never seen Charlie Chapman so that. Actually, I don't
Speaker 1: know why I did that. I think I wanted to
Speaker 1: know if any of his errors were alive. I don't
Speaker 1: remember why I did it, but I think he might have.
Speaker 1: I'm going to look that up, or maybe Lorraine, will
Speaker 1: you look that up? If Charlie Chaplin was of notorious
Speaker 1: for like being a player? Yeah, what you guys? I
Speaker 1: have a question from both to both of you. Have
Speaker 1: you ever done it on a kitchen table? No, Lucinda
Speaker 1: asked Brandon. Jenny done on a kitchen table? Oh my gosh, silence?
Speaker 1: Is it? Does the kitchen counter account as the table? Whoa? Jenny? Well,
Speaker 1: I had a really big island in my kitchen. And
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. She said, you notorious cleaner. You'd
Speaker 1: be like, no, no, you don't want no fluids on
Speaker 1: my kitchen counter? Uh backwards? Can you guys see what
Speaker 1: Lorraine said? Something about he was he was very incorrigible
Speaker 1: for his advances towards women. Oh something like that, Chaplin?
Speaker 1: But who cares? He boasted about his conquest. It was
Speaker 1: reference in a teen drama. Because I'm like, I'm an
Speaker 1: adult now and I still didn't came up with that
Speaker 1: and like from song was one of our younger writers.
Speaker 1: Though right, I don't remember now, maybe I'm wrong with
Speaker 1: that line. Yeah, because that James Mary Mons is like
Speaker 1: Harri James Whitmore junior. The director was No Spring Chicken
Speaker 1: wasn't true. I like you stray you pay? That's fine?
Speaker 1: Oh shoot, sorry, Jenny, No, that's fine. I'm good. That
Speaker 1: was a good one. We really fast. Before we go
Speaker 1: really fast, what did you think of the Kelly Steve
Speaker 1: that We didn't really dig into that and there was
Speaker 1: a lot of Kelly Steve that I really liked. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of them together not together air quotes, but
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I believe like the friendship, the history,
Speaker 1: like I like it. It feels so real when they're
Speaker 1: when they have scenes together and they're very brotherly sisterly.
Speaker 1: It does it feels deep. Yeah, Kenn and Barbie, Like
Speaker 1: I'm into it, and therefore it Kenn Barbie. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: if they did the Kenn and Barbie movie that was
Speaker 1: with Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie, if they had done it,
Speaker 1: then it could have been iron zering. Well. That a
Speaker 1: bout wraps up this episode. Next week we have great,
Speaker 1: oar love. What's your scores? Dare you drum roll? Please?
Speaker 1: They're like eight and a half eight and a half's
Speaker 1: going to tables on a microphone, some titties and net.
Speaker 1: But I gave it a ten yeah for me? Wait? Jen,
Speaker 1: so you okay? You started this thinking maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: love it as much as some of the other episodes,
Speaker 1: and then you got to give it an eight point five. Well,
Speaker 1: I liked it because you know, everybody was all together.
Speaker 1: You know, I love an episode altogether. Did you guys
Speaker 1: see the extreme foreshadowing coming out of Brandon's drawer? No?
Speaker 1: Are you guys kidding me? Out of his drawer when
Speaker 1: he is packing to get away? You guys don't know
Speaker 1: what's happening. I'll say it, say it. He said he's
Speaker 1: going camping. Yeah, and he also even mentioned it by
Speaker 1: name of He gives a shout out. I think I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure Emily, Oh the picture? He saw the picture
Speaker 1: from Emily? Is he? Is she back on the show?
Speaker 1: He's going to San Francisco, right, Brandon? Don't do it? Oh? Wait?
Speaker 1: Isn't she enough? Okay? And foreshadowing that I think it's
Speaker 1: happening soon. Isn't it like David's frustration with Donna I
Speaker 1: have sex with Oh man, you guys to sit out
Speaker 1: that episode. I'm gonna be so devastated. He cannot take
Speaker 1: it anymore. That poor kid. I mean, blue balls are
Speaker 1: a thing. Totally alright, you guys on that note good.
Speaker 1: I love I mean, I can't wait to hear from
Speaker 1: everybody because I love this episode. Let us know, let
Speaker 1: us know. Yeah, all right, you guys, have a great week.
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