WEBVTT - Episode 95: Star Wars - Lando 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:12.640 Yo, yo yo. How's it going everyone, and welcome to 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.520 another episode of nerdificent Ime one half of yo host 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.520 if you wide away and sitting across from me as always, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.240 Jenny Fernandez, Hey, how you doing, Dainty? I'm good, I'm good. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.520 Are you good? Do you see my shirt? Do you 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.880 see my baby Yoda shirt? Yeah? You're already already locking 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.559 in on the baby Yoda mercy. You have to tell 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:40.720 people what it says. It says protect attack, snack, Yes, yea. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.640 Our buddy Rocom also has a baby Yoda pins Now 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.920 he has one baby Yoda with the frog and snack 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.640 in his mouth, and then he has the of course 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.160 Boba fete where he's a boba like contained her. Did 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.280 I tell you about my Etsy thing? How Like? I 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.800 try to order it and I don't even think that 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.280 it existed. I don't think that doll existed, like that 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:03.600 was the only place you could get him. So I 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.600 tried to order one on Etsy back on December and 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.640 I never got it, and the person was like, oh, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.000 I sent my brother at the de sent it. I'm 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.440 like no, how could you break my He was like, oh, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:16.720 do you just want to refund? I was like no, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.760 I would like I would like the baby, Yoda, thank you, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.680 I would like the child and he was like, oh um, 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.839 and then I knew. I was like, you didn't even 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:29.600 have probably made one. They're actually really hard to make, uh, Tino? 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.039 Maybe I maybe I literally told this story last week. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.520 I can't remember. I have lost track of time. We 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:41.800 are both, we are both in a day's writing, um 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.280 if he. We are joined today by one of our 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.959 good friends. He's the author of Why We Love Star Wars. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.960 It's Ken Napsock. Hey. I am so thrilled to be 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.040 here with you both, but also jealous of that shirt. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:58.000 I have another child shirt to I could it could 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.680 fit over my head. That's about it. But I'll wear it. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.800 I'll well did you see I cut the arms out 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.360 because I also could not fit. But you love Star 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.360 Wars so much you wrote an entire book about it. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.680 I did. Yeah, It's it's a it's a lifelong existence 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.359 and I had the chance to write about it thanks 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.679 to Mango Publishing, and and put my heart and soul 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.919 in it, which is to me how I approached Star 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.880 Wars heart and soul first, mind and analytical stuff later, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.240 heart and stuff, heart first, you and all of our 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.840 friends that are Superstar Wars heads are always like very 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.920 You're like who I think a Jedi would be, Like, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.079 You're just very sweet and you listen to everyone's opinions, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.760 and like, I feel like that is probably how we 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.560 should all remember Star Wars. You and m A five, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.840 Ace Cabrera, even Mark ellis like those people who just 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.480 like really love something so they just you know, they 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.639 can have critical conversations about it but still have respect. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.639 I guess that's the word I'm looking. Yeah, we me 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.640 Justice Scrimpton on Jennifer and I've been doing Fourth Center 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.600 for five years under that kind of approach. Yeah, nothing 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.480 about Star Wars is ever going to be perfect, Nothing 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.679 is ever going to be the way you wanted. Celebrate 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.040 what you love, engage with the story presented, and just 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.400 also remember it's a silly space story, but not that 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.720 doesn't also mean it doesn't mean the world to you, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.320 and you can move around the galaxy as as you 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.920 want and have fun, have fun. Otherwise, why would I 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.240 be here? Why would I write a book? If I'm 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:30.799 like that's how people feel when I make fun of Goku. Yeah, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.639 I gets so triggered by it. I'm like he's tattooed 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.480 on my body. I can make fun of my wife, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:46.119 you know, Luke to be honest, Lucas Jesus. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:52.760 see you got it. That makes Yoda um holy spirit. Yeah, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.760 that's what I was about to say. I'm like, who 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:59.520 is Yoda? Then? Who's Jus? Yeah, Judas would be. It's 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:03.200 not Dark Earth, I guess, Oh yeah, who who turns? 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.680 No one really turns. Yeah, there's we need that. It's 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.680 a good Star Wars story. Jedi. I mean there's been 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.040 jediut of turn, but like in the big screen, I 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.800 want this now. Get right. We normally start our podcast 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.400 with what we're geeking out about. We normally do. I 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.599 think we'll let our guests go first. I was gonna go, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.440 and I was like, no, that's rude. We should let 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:29.600 our guests go first. What are you seeking out about? Kid? Well, yeah, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.280 here we got A'm gonna sound really old. The Graham 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.000 of Beer has shown up lately. You mentioned his name. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.719 He's kind of a big jerk. Mark Ellis threatened me, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.240 challenge me, challenge me as the word, but I used 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.520 threatened that I could not go do comedy with him 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.520 until I completed watching the History of the Eagles documentary 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.000 and I'm not like a huge Eagles fan, but I'm 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.520 a rock fan and old rock DJ. And I was like, yeah, 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.599 I've always been and he's like, you must. So I 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.159 started watching it. And even though I don't love this 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.120 band and and and you know, I just it's four 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:05.279 hours of drama. It's four hours of Twitter drama in 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.760 the history of the band, and that just I love 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.040 watching music documentaries. So the next night I was watching 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.200 Echo in the Canyon, the Jacobilan Laura Canyon music scene. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.280 I watched another Lennon Yo go on one and it's 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.600 just I'm right now. So it's been a few years, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.359 but I'm in a music doc and I don't have 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.520 to love the band or be invested. At the end 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.159 of it, you're invested. Are you going to make it 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.120 to Fleetwood? Mac? You know? I mean that's I think 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.119 ste everyone's screwing everyone in the studio and they're writing 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.559 songs about it. I make Fleetwood with his tongue out drama. Yeah, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.560 I bring this up a ton. But um Deef mccagan's 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:45.440 autobiog autobiogra Griffy There We Go on Audible is actually 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.640 really good. Worth it if you have an audible credit 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.640 worth it um because he talks about you know them. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.559 It's also wild that they just like Craigslist didn't exist 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.160 back then. But I think they were looking for a 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.040 drug like they were looking he was he's a basis, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.280 but they were looking to put this band to They're 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.680 like on the Classified or something, and they like they 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:11.360 got together at canters Um and they had their girlfriends 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.599 there and they had no money and they barely knew 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.720 how to play. And I'm like, wow, I can't imagine 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.279 just moving to Hollywood and barely knowing how to play 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.359 and they're just kind of like figuring it out and 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.000 then being one of the biggest bands of all times. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.560 But I love stories like that, and that's what I 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.800 love those stocks. I love passing that that Delhi and 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.240 Laurel Canyon, and that's where like Mick Fleetwood was looking 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.440 for a guitar. Someone's like, hey, do you know Lindsey 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.719 bugging m is like, I love that we live in 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.560 that city where you can find that little little pocket. Also, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.159 they just did not have like they had nothing to eat. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:40.919 It's just crazy listening to it to be like they 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.480 would have like one sandwich to have like throughout the 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.839 whole day, I'm like, how your blood sugar not crashing? 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.400 Just doing coke and like, I don't know smash cut 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.000 to are are where we started episode when Danny was 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.279 talking about eating sugar sandwiches while working at the ice house. 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.359 Is that what I said? No? No, I forgot what 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.520 you had? Struggle meal. Yeah. It was like tuna in 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.720 a can. I would like section it off. I would 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.559 eat half in the morning, half, like I was poor. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.280 Can we open up a business called Struggle Meal. I'll 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.000 hook it up, you know. Look you'll get a hot 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:20.040 link with with a piece of bread. Look, that's still 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.840 a classic. I'll hit that up in regular das. I'll 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:29.520 do Tina's burritos or those excellent to Molly's. You're like, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:33.679 oh this, there's nothing Mexican about this, but I'm about 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.120 to put it. Yeah. There was this one guy bit 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.520 king shout out to you in my discord who said 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.600 that he had a thirty three cent, an eighty nine cent, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:49.360 and a like a dollar ten burrito in the discord 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.560 and everyone was like, where'd you get it from? He 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.640 was like, oh no. Some gas station people were like, 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:00.000 oh no, your butt, Oh my gosh, but he report 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.400 did to us UH this morning. He was like, my 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:07.400 butt is full from the It's all right. Yeah, we 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.200 were all scared. Uh. The thing that I'm getting out 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:14.960 about is something that you can tune into tonight, which 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:20.120 is e Leak's Super Punch UH, presented by Twitch, that 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.760 I'm the host of on Monday through Thursdays live on 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.600 Twitch every night, uh, and then on Friday nights we 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.560 take it to TBS where host j D, Kelly Nugent 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.720 and Alex Korea hold it down and I'll be popping 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.000 my head in and bugging them throughout. It's gonna be 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.400 a good time. UM. Hopefully by the time this is 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.160 UH out, my hard work has paid off and you've 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.160 already laughed on Monday show and you're coming back to 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:52.800 Tuesday show excited. Uh. If not Twitch HQ, maybe on Fire. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.439 Either way, tune in. It's live on Twitch. It will 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.719 definitely be on the front page. That'll be UM the 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:05.400 effect time from eight till ten thirty Pacific time, which 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:11.640 means Eastern time is later than that. Nice. Yeah. I 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.760 was like I can add three to all of these 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.080 or just say later than that, and that's what I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.719 went with. What about you, Danny, What are you geeking out? 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.400 I am geeking out about The Outsider, which is on HBO. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.959 It's a new show. I think it's about four weeks 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.120 in now, and so glad that I saw people on 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.960 Twitter talking about it, or else I would not have 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.640 actually checked it out. Um. So it's based on a 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:36.679 Stephen King novel. Actually, Jason Bateman is in it and 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.240 he directed I think multiple episodes, or at least the 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:44.280 first episode. Ben Mendelsohn is in it. It's really creepy. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.679 It's like a murder happens or people keep getting murdered 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.959 and they can't quite figure out who is doing it 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:55.400 because the people that are doing it um have like alibis. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:56.760 It was like, how could they they were on the 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.960 other side of the country, how could they have murdered it? 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.320 So it's like maybe, so when's impersonating them? Really wild 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.120 and super creepy thriller, like just really well done. Definitely 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.400 check it out. I kind of fella. I literally sat 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.400 there and watched three hours worth of it when I 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.000 was getting when I was catching up. So that's how 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.319 good it is that I sat there. What I'm hearing 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.000 it because I'm playing I'm playing video games and my 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.360 girlfriend is it's worth checking now? I turned around every 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.719 now and then it sounds great like fantasy action or 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.079 is it's scary. Look, you can survive it if he 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.520 don't look at look the Wikipedia says horror, don't look 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:40.679 at it. Thriller. It's it's a thriller. It definitely is 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.920 spooky enough, like it catches me for me a horror. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.320 Heead like it gives me like that extra little bit 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.760 of like the Boogeyman in the bedroom, Like it just 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.000 has a pinch of that. That's good. But it's very 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.240 it's like a procedural like it's you know, they're tracking 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.800 down this case. So it's very true detective ish, which 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.800 is fascinating because it's on the same channel. Very true 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.439 detective but where children are being murdered. If you're into that, 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.320 well now I'm definitely gonna turn around. We'll be into 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:17.360 You'll be into this anyways. It's it's great, it's great, riveting, riveting, riveting. Um. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.959 Today we are talking about a character again. We're breaking 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.280 down Star Wars into little bits as we go so 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.120 that we can actually digest little digestible days. Yeah, little 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.679 digestible tasty bits. So we're not regurgitating things you've read 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.000 over and over, researched over and over. We're just talking 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.000 about some interesting things that people don't talk about often 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:42.280 and characters and set trap. But today we're talking about Lando. Yeah, 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:48.120 today we are talking about Lando. Yeah, Lando Calrisian the 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:52.600 coolest mofo in the galaxy. And my humble opinion, like 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.520 everyone you know growing up, like we're like, han, he's cool. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.280 Like now Lando was cool because he's sold Colt forty 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:05.160 five and oh he's super smooth. Yeah, he is epitome 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.000 of fashion. He set the trends. Capes had existed before, 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.960 but then he shows up and it just becomes a thing. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.160 But now even in like Star Wars and capes Vader 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.840 had one, Landoki comes in, but but he also, you know, 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.680 Billy d just brings Billy Denis to everything he does. Yeah, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.440 they actually updated his uh out for just a tad 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.440 in the last film. Um and he's now in Star Tours. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.440 Super excited about that. I don't know if yes, yes, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:41.280 it's not a spoiler because it's already out. But yeah, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.160 I got him. I went to uh, I went to 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.600 Disneyland and he popped up and I was like, well, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:51.640 that's so cool, that's awesome. That's not gonna yeah, yeah, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.559 I remember so oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Okay, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.640 I think it's going to take just a little little 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.360 certain ing. But so I saw a Star Wars late life, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.440 you know, so I probably like I was an adult, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:11.480 but someone um on my old improv team Cherry spits, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.040 I was live tweeting it. This was early live tweeting too, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.360 this is before it was InVogue. But I was live 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.640 tweeting my first viewing. And so I think I can 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.959 find like my very first thoughts when I first saw Lando, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.400 I like just ran into it, like when I was 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.960 looking for my old live journal and I still can't. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.719 I think they deleted it. It was it's probably for 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.960 a good reason, but I wanted there was a show 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.559 where like I was going through my old blog post 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.880 when I was young, and um, oh this site is bad. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.480 I love when you go back to your live journal past. Yeah, 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.800 that's always fun. Well, I wanted to talk about his 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.599 appearance and Empire. That's yeah, that's good. Yeah, do that. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.520 That's when we first saw him. Yeah, so in writing 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.880 the Empire strikes Back Lucas initially considered at Lando Casan 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.360 was a clone from a planet of clones, which caused 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.480 the clone wars mentioned in The New Hope. An earlier 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.120 trailer for the film introduced him as Landau cal Rision, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:15.040 So I guess they just didn't go with that. The 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.040 idea that George had a set plan for his original 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.200 trilogy is one of the most fun miss and Star 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.840 Wars that is often lobbed at the sequel trilogy. Where's 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.680 the plan? Where's the plan? George didn't care of his 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.200 own plants. It just and and I think that's that. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.320 That's how writing and creativity should go, right, sketch it 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.840 out in pencil, but to see where it takes you, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.200 see where your ideas take you. So yeah, yeah, we 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.080 kind of talked about that when they were working on 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.960 the last episode we just covered was fashion, and it 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.000 was so fascinating because they were like, we didn't even 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.640 know if this would air, Like they didn't even know 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.600 if it was going to be a movie when they 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.640 were done with it. So the fact that it ended 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.840 up being what it is, it's kind of just I 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.480 don't want to say out of luck because that sounds 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.200 like it, but it's you know, it's kind of one 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.280 of those things in the if I had come maybe 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.640 ten years later, ten years before, who knows. It's like 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.840 when you're eating a sugar sandwich and you don't know 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.160 is going to be You just got to take that shot. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:14.000 So I I found it, and I will I'll read 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.160 the the whole blog post in the swift. This is 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.040 Empire Strikes Back for the first Yeah. Yeah. This is 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:25.360 by my buddy James Stevieck on January two thousand ten, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.360 so over over a decade ago. I don't know how 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.800 many of you know my friend associate. If you Shakuda, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.680 if he waddy Way, he is a member of my 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.800 comedy group and a hugely funny guy. Recently, he admitted 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.760 to the team he has never ever seen the original 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.560 Star Wars trilogy. I sprung into action and got him 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.000 Empire Strikes Back for Christmas. I know it seems blasphemous 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.120 for me to start him on episode five rather than 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.120 New Hope, but I really wanted him to start on 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.760 the one, if not what I feel to be the 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.840 best Star Wars of the original trilogy. Plus less we 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.040 forget every single Star Wars movie opens with all the 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.200 pertinent information the audience needs to know if is a 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.520 good friend, despite the fact that we are utter opposites 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.000 in many ways. For example, I abhor Twitter and other 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.760 trindy internet fads, while if he tweets post more to 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.080 Facebook than anyone else I know. I stand by my 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.160 stance that no one on this planet is interesting enough 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.640 to warrant a constant Internet feed of their every unyielding thought. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.360 But every so often Twitter offers a unique window into 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.560 people's minds while they are at their most honest. The 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.080 following are if he's tweets upon watching Empire for the 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.440 first time and it's O, Lando, I don't trust you, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:34.680 and then damn you Lando. Yeah, well then there's also 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.920 don't tell them anythings? Solo are two? Your loud ass alerted? 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.160 Boba Fett? Can someone put three C three P O 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.720 on mute chro s his arm got cut off? What 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.360 happened to Luke's father? No, No, not true, that's impossible. No, No, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.040 I think I was leaning into that last one. It's 0:16:54.120 --> 0:17:00.600 pretty common knowledge that that invader, that vader is Luke's father. Um, 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.760 but yeah, so that's uh, that's a that's a brave 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.920 choice to start you there, but it worked up, Yeah, yeah, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.520 worked out. Yeah, he was. He was firm on his 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.119 belief that that's the better one that I like to 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.159 that you start with, don't trust him, because that is 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.960 kind of this big thing. I'm Billy de actually talked 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.479 about a Star Wars celebration about the idea of you know, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.639 don't trust Landa. But really he's like, I'm surviving. And 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.840 that's to me what I love about Lando as a character. Yeah, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.639 because he is, he is surviving in this galaxy and 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.080 he doesn't He's like, why should I trust haunt? Yeah exactly, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.200 and what do for me in mine? And what we 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.800 were talking about on the Planets episode is like this 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.280 his his like whole ship is manufacturing like weapons. So 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.600 I mean, not only is his like life at risk, 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.280 but also the his economy. You know, if he was 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.920 to break up that relationship with the Empire, then then 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.920 his that's not only his life he's ruining, He's ruining 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.200 the life of the whole planet. He's got a lot 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.199 of responsibilities on the shoulder, and his old buddy shows up. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.040 Hey man, I'm in trouble. Yeah I know, and look 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.920 what you've done. He brought this to my doorstep. Yeah, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.560 a whole and you stole my ship. When asked what 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.040 made Lando so popular originally, Billy D. Williams responded, I 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.480 think he's an interesting, fund swashbuckling individual with a lot 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.879 of charm. He's like the old fashioned swashbuckling characters in 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.440 the old films, Errol Flynn, and he's my personality. But 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.560 apparently that didn't stop fans from lashing out at Lando 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.840 for betraying Han. He said, quote, they don't cuss me 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.520 out anymore for betraying Han. That's over now. I don't 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.280 have little ten year old boys threatening my life. Wow, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.600 that's the real life Internet. Well, that's the Internet in 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.399 real life though. And when I do these conventions, I 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.520 run into people who were little kids when they first 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:54.040 saw it, and they're bringing their kids. That is really sweet. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.120 I've never directly thought of in that way of like, yeah, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.120 he is. You know, Lucas was writing this serial adventure 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.520 nineteen thirties type of movie with with New Hope and 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.080 Empire comes along, and now we actually get kind of 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.840 the debonair little wispy mustache like uh like uh, you 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.720 know Douglas Fairbanks back in the day and that's that's 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.920 that's that's actually real fascinating take from Billy D as 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.560 as he would know. And one of the things that 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:20.919 White Star Wars works so well back then is like 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.240 you know, Princess latt Is, Carrie Fisher and and and 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.200 it is. It's almost like pro wrestling where you find 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.359 the character that's just yourself amplified and yeah, that's the 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.760 strength is Billy D is Billy D. But he is 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.439 a good actor. So it's translates so well on the screen. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.359 Here's a cool bit I want to talk about. So, 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.159 the introduction of black men and women as leaders of 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.080 their own stories cemented black exploitations popularity, and despite the 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.880 genre's harmful themes such as physical and sexual abuse, hyper sexuality, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.640 linking blackness and inter city life to crime and drug use, 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.280 and hyper masculinity, the genre, which created legendary films like Shaft, Coffee, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.920 Cleopatrick Jones, and super Fly, provided black actors and black 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.400 audience as a way to Crew eight and consumed story 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.920 starring black characters that would gain mainstream appeal. Several big 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:09.320 names and entertainment participated in the genres development, like Sydney Portier, 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.760 who started two sequels in the heat of the Night 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.760 that would serve as a precursor to black exploitation. They 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:19.040 called me Mr uh Mr Tibbs and the organization and 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.879 you know this is also if if you're interested in 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.800 this lane at all, Dolomite is my name kind of 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.520 tackles that too, because it is like, this was a 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.879 time where, yeah, you didn't have, you know, that much representation. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.200 I mean, if you think we have it bad now, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.240 it was even worse than and this and yeah, it's 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.000 kind of, uh, it's kind of cool that. Like, so now, 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.959 by nineteen seventeen, Billy D. Williams was already a Hollywood 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:49.400 nine nineteen seventeen, back before the pictures, you know, when 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.840 it was silent. But yeah, by nineteen seventy two, Billy D. 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.479 Williams was already a Hollywood star and a chief arbiter 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.360 of cool for his roles in Brian Song and Lady 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.040 Sings the Blues and it kind of sebmented him as 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.320 a huge talent and uh, but he also started like 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.240 black exploitation films like The Final come Down Hit and 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.600 The Take, And even then, Williams still played like a 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:15.200 compassionate hero looking for justice and so like to step 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:16.720 out of that and to be in like a movie 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.879 like Star Wars is such a big move because I 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.080 think we talked about this. Actually this might have been 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.359 a subject I talked about on who Shot You talk 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.919 about movies too much? Uh, but like the idea of 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.360 a quote unquote black film, and like you and and 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.760 like for the longest uh you know, people say, oh, 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.560 that's a black film, they don't have to see it. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.359 And the reason this actually came up was for a 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.199 film called Tales from the Hood, which like even the 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.320 name might suggest that it's something different, but like it's 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.320 actually a poignant uh anthology, horror that actually deals with 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:55.760 stuff still prevalent today. It was police brutality, it was 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.600 you know, racist politicians because uh, Tales from the Hood 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.880 came out like a year after Jeff's Sessions almost became president. 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.760 Uh if you and if you don't remember that, and 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.840