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Speaker 1: Mmmm. Welcome to the State of the Lakers show on

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Speaker 1: DASH Radio. Today is Tuesday, after our first preseason game,

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Speaker 1: first Lakers game of the two two season. Rog, how

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Speaker 1: you doing? Man? Did it feel good to be in

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Speaker 1: Staples Center in front of all those thousands of fans?

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Speaker 1: It felt amazing and it's great to be back after

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Speaker 1: an actual game. We get actual film. I know Jason

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Speaker 1: and I watched probably way too much of that of

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Speaker 1: that preseason game. But the first thing I want to

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Speaker 1: say is I have pushed the crow to the other

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Speaker 1: side of the table. It is on your side now, so, um,

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Speaker 1: it is not in front of me, at least for

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Speaker 1: the moment. Um, So I know that I know that

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Speaker 1: you were prepared. I like my apologies now, you know,

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Speaker 1: like DeAndre Jordan did start as I said he would

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Speaker 1: next to a d There are there's context to that,

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Speaker 1: of course, Um, but yeah, the crows on the other side,

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Speaker 1: how does that feel? You are absolutely correct. Our first

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Speaker 1: Lakers game involved Anthony Davis at the four, so technically,

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Speaker 1: technically for the moment, you are correct. Um, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was in general very weird preseason game for all

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Speaker 1: the reasons that preseason games are always weird. Like, for instance,

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Speaker 1: you had uh no, like literally no forwards playing for

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Speaker 1: the Lakers other than Anthony Davis, which inherently made it

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Speaker 1: so that the Lakers had to play small most of

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Speaker 1: the night, which we'll talk about led to uh, pretty

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Speaker 1: predictable rebounding problems. And that's the kind of thing you'll

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Speaker 1: only see in the preseason because any NBA team that

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Speaker 1: encounters that problem in the regular season, if you had

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Speaker 1: a decimated front court, would you know, sign a two

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Speaker 1: way to bring up a two way player, or you know,

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Speaker 1: have you know, a couple of veteran minimum signings to

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Speaker 1: try to fill in until guys could get healthy. But

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Speaker 1: that just wasn't gonna happen in a preseason situation. Then

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Speaker 1: you had the classic stuff like referees overdoing the points

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Speaker 1: of emphasis and getting you know, because they view the

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Speaker 1: preseason as an opportunity to establish new you know, protocols

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Speaker 1: and things like that, which I thought was super annoying

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Speaker 1: because like juxtaposed with the NBA Finals, you know, a

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Speaker 1: few months ago, and the stuff that they're letting go

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Speaker 1: all over the floor to suddenly like Anthony Davis reverse

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Speaker 1: pivot travel, like every single pick and roll, illegal screen

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Speaker 1: like I think Nick Claxton got called for four illegal

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Speaker 1: screens in the first half of that game. Like, it

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Speaker 1: was just incredibly sloppy, and you know, just in general,

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Speaker 1: both teams were playing really hard, I thought, which was

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Speaker 1: kind of refreshing to see. But like there's that classic

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Speaker 1: I think it's a John Wooden saying, but it's like

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Speaker 1: like activity with production. Don't confuse those two things. Like

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Speaker 1: both teams are running around a lot, but like they're

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Speaker 1: at like in terms of what they were supposed to

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Speaker 1: do within their scheme. I thought everybody was sloppy, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was fun. What was it like in the arena

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Speaker 1: as a as a Laker fan to see the fans back, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was really great. I've never really been

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Speaker 1: been that close up before, so it's really cool watching

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Speaker 1: the play players warm up, you know, getting to see

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, who didn't play, but just getting to watch

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Speaker 1: him shoot, Watching a guy who's so good at his

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Speaker 1: craft kind of work on it. Seeing Wayne Ellington work

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Speaker 1: on shots that he gets in games. You know, that

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Speaker 1: was really cool. Seeing all the players work with the trainers,

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Speaker 1: got to see Baysmore as well, all the fans. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was at full capacity. Um just we didn't

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Speaker 1: get a super cell out because of it being preseason.

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Speaker 1: But it was fun, man, just to be up close.

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Speaker 1: You get to hear things that you probably don't get

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Speaker 1: to hear if you're if you're far back, you get

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Speaker 1: to hear them screaming, like ice coverages and you know

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Speaker 1: you're by yourself, and you know all those kind of

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Speaker 1: things that are really cool here, the ball kind of

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Speaker 1: bouncing on the court. There's nothing like Staples Center to me.

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Speaker 1: Have you been the Stable Center before? Seen the game

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Speaker 1: of Staples Not an NBA game, but I did see

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Speaker 1: an Elite eight game from the n C Double A Tournament.

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Speaker 1: There is like when you get in there and you

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Speaker 1: history that as a basketball fan, I've absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 1: I think there are some Clipper fans over the summer

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be like, man, you got a factor

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Speaker 1: in the historical elements here, Like even if it's dumpy

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Speaker 1: there's history here and that matters you know like that

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Speaker 1: Staples is a stage right, Like while while I was

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Speaker 1: watching the lighting all the it feels like a theater performance.

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Speaker 1: Even though it's a preseason game, you still kind of

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Speaker 1: get that excitement. Um. Yeah, it was just fun to

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Speaker 1: it was a great experience. Hoped to be at a

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Speaker 1: Um to be safe, but go out there and have

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Speaker 1: a good time at the game. Yeah. I was planning

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Speaker 1: on going to Wednesday's game in Phoenix because it was

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Speaker 1: at an interesting time in the day that I might

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Speaker 1: have been able to make it. But as as fate

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Speaker 1: would have it, I think I told you I was

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Speaker 1: considering coaching some high school basketball this year, while I

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Speaker 1: I ended up taking the gig with the varsity team

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Speaker 1: that might occasionally cause some issues with our postgame shows,

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Speaker 1: but I'm hoping that it only will happen a couple

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Speaker 1: of times this year, just because for the most part,

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Speaker 1: because they're West Coast team, their games start so late

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Speaker 1: in the day anyway, So we're gonna get started to

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Speaker 1: our game plan today in terms of breaking down the

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Speaker 1: game is, we're going to each provide three things that

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Speaker 1: we were impressed by, and then three things that we

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Speaker 1: thought the Lakers really needed to work on. And then

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Speaker 1: obviously if we have some overlap Sham and I have

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Speaker 1: Roger and I have not discussed it at all. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if we have any overlap, we'll we'll just kind of

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Speaker 1: approach that as we get there. Anyway, Roger, why don't

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Speaker 1: you start us off with the first thing that you

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Speaker 1: were impressed by from the Lakers in their preseason opener.

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Speaker 1: So I'll just continue on from my like summer preachers,

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Speaker 1: like I loved Wayne Ellington on offense, Like obviously there's

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Speaker 1: defensive stuff to figure out, and again this is the

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Speaker 1: stuff we like. So on offense, he just a different

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Speaker 1: caliber of shooter that we've ever had, right, Like they

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Speaker 1: run sets for him, teams chase him, and like teams

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Speaker 1: don't just chase him. Teams are told like you don't

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Speaker 1: help responsibility, Like it's your job to stick with him. Um.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers used to run this play for k C

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Speaker 1: the second screen is becomes a dribble handoff with the

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Speaker 1: big and guys like KCP, Guys like Avery Bradley would

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Speaker 1: dribble into like the midrange. Ellenton is firing from three

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Speaker 1: off the handoff. You know what I mean. It's just

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Speaker 1: a different caliber. Um. When guys go under, he's immediately

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Speaker 1: going up super technical shooter as well. His feet are

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Speaker 1: set again, Like being at the game watching him practice

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Speaker 1: these threes, like you could see why he's so comfortable

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Speaker 1: in game taking them. All these things are are part

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Speaker 1: but all the shots that like I loved him taking.

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Speaker 1: He takes these transition threes, like I think Rondo hit

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Speaker 1: him in stride on one of them, were like he

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Speaker 1: from three and that's just a different type of shooter

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Speaker 1: loved Allington offense. I love what he's gonna open up.

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Speaker 1: I think him and Baysmore were probably most effective by

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Speaker 1: not having our star creators out there, right they I

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Speaker 1: think Allington played best when it was Rondo next to him,

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Speaker 1: just a guy that finds him. But I would love

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Speaker 1: to see him with our stars. But yeah, there's defensive concerns,

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Speaker 1: but I love what he brings as a shooter to

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Speaker 1: our team. Yeah. I think everything thing that we saw

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Speaker 1: I look more at the way he affects the defense

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Speaker 1: You know, like he's gonna take four or five threes

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Speaker 1: every game and he's gonna make two or three of them.

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Speaker 1: That's that, that's the reality. But on the scoreboard, that's

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Speaker 1: look more with Ellington are what does he cause the

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Speaker 1: Davis's ability to pressure the rim. And then secondly, what

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Speaker 1: reality is as any good defense is going to run

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Speaker 1: So there was one play in particular, and I posted

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Speaker 1: it on my Twitter feed. You guys can find it there.

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Speaker 1: But it's that exact play you're talking about, that k

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Speaker 1: Deandre's Jordan's man has to be up at that screen.

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Speaker 1: The reason why is he's there to deter a curl.

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Speaker 1: When you have a shooter as good as Ellington, if

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Speaker 1: So you have that other big up at the screen

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Speaker 1: I even took a freeze frame of it, DeAndre Jordan

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Speaker 1: an example of gravity from Ellington that literally impacts two

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Speaker 1: him making easy reads. This is something that was a

429
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Speaker 1: concern for him coming into the season. Um. But at

430
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, there are times against really

431
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: good defenses in particular where the easy reads aren't there,

432
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just need somebody and Lebron is really

433
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: good at this. In particular, Anthony Davis does it more

434
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: as a rebounder than he does as a as an initiator.

435
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: But sometimes you just need to put your head down

436
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 1: and just get to the damn rim somehow, like like

437
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: you just need to plow through guys and hopefully get

438
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: enough pressure on the rim that it can generate some

439
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: quality shots when the really elite defenses are taking away

440
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: the easy reads and th h T still cannot be

441
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: stopped like at that initial drive position, Like his problems

442
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: never had anything to do with beating that first guy.

443
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: It was all like he would drive into too much

444
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: traffic and he would get stripped by the second defender

445
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: or the third defender. That kind of thing. We can

446
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 1: work on the the ability for th h T to

447
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: beat every single point of attack defender and to to

448
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: get a step and get headed towards the paint. That

449
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: is something that can translate to good offense. Especially. I

450
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: think you'll see him a lot more as a closeout

451
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: attacker this year, which is something we talked about early

452
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: in the season last year. But that th HD still

453
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: with his low center of gravity, his good strength and

454
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: his athleticism is still just a huge problem for teams

455
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: keeping him out of the paint. What did you see

456
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: from th h T on the good side of things? Yeah,

457
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: so again, just being there like T exudes is like

458
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: confidence is like veteran kind of feel already, and you

459
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: forget that he's twenty years old, just the way he

460
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: kind of carries himself. So I just want to start

461
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 1: with that. It's really cool to watch him grow and

462
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: his body is definitely different, like you could totally tell,

463
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: and it's totally impacted everything you talked about the point

464
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: of attack defense. I thought him going around screens was

465
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: much better in this game. I know it's only preseason,

466
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: but like the term is called like getting skinny, right,

467
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: so when you're going on when you're going on a screen,

468
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: you want to kind of get skinny. And uh, I

469
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: know the rests are kind of calling a lot of things,

470
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: but he drew three offensive fouls on movie screens just

471
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Speaker 1: because he was fighting over it. I thought that was

472
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Speaker 1: a big step for him on offense. Like again, I

473
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier and you said this, everything needs

474
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Speaker 1: to be kind of seen through this lens of next

475
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Speaker 1: to Lebron and Russell Westbrook, right, because all those three

476
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: will be those two will be playing most of the game,

477
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: so the ball handling duties will be on them. And

478
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Speaker 1: I thought thhd's best moments last night where when he

479
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: was the guy attacking and already collapsed defense, right, like

480
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: his dunk. His dunk was on a play where Baysmore

481
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: drove collapse of defense kicked it out to him, and

482
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Speaker 1: then he attacked the defense that was already rotating um

483
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: A couple of possessions later, he got a layup where

484
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Speaker 1: I think it was goaltender or something that was where

485
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: a D pushed it right and he got a hand

486
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: off of a D in drove and again the defense

487
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: was kind of worried about a D. A thought. His

488
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: third nice player was like where he got a spin

489
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: and got fouled. But that was when Rondo pushed it

490
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: up to I believe it was Monk who hit th

491
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: HD as the trailer there and he did like a

492
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: behind I don't know, it's a spin behind the back whatever.

493
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what he whatever he was doing, but

494
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: he got fouled on that. So that's what I want

495
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: to see with him. I liked him as uh an

496
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: attacker of an already compromised defense where he doesn't have

497
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Speaker 1: to be the first attack, right because when you're the

498
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: first attack, it's your it's your job to make the

499
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: right decision right to where the pass to who's open.

500
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: But if he's already attacking already compromised defense, he could

501
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: just attack the rim. You have to stop him after

502
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: already trying to rotate to a shooter or trying to

503
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: rotate to a d rolling or rotate to Lebron whatever,

504
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 1: and then he's coming down the lane with his kind

505
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: of herky jerky game. You know, he does those weird layups. Um,

506
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: he protects the ball really nicely when he when he

507
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: gets to the basket and draws files that way. So

508
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: I like him scoring that way. And again I thought

509
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: the defense was good, So I agree with you. I

510
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: like what I saw from from PhD there. That's a yeah,

511
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: that that's a really good point as it pertains to

512
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: taking away the decision making process essentially at this stage

513
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: of his career. It's kind of a delicate balance because

514
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: you know he needs reps in order to learn how

515
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: to make those decisions, but at the same time, you

516
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of need him to learn how to play off

517
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Speaker 1: of the stars. So my guess is that what you'll

518
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: end up seeing is kind of what you saw in

519
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: that game, which is in the games where stars sit

520
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: because of load management or injuries or whatever it may be.

521
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: I think you'll lean heavily on him as a decision

522
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: maker just so he can get reps and then obviously

523
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: when the guys are healthy, he'll play more, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: as a guy who attacks the already compromise defense. You

525
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Speaker 1: mentioned one other thing that I did not actually put

526
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Speaker 1: on my list, but I wanted to bring up that

527
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: you reminded me, is just in general, the pushing the

528
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Speaker 1: ball transition. Every time, almost every time that they advanced

529
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Speaker 1: to the ball, like the whoever would get the ball

530
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: out of bounds on a maid shot or whoever would

531
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Speaker 1: get the rebound and kick to the guard, they would

532
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: make that push ahead pass that like Lonzo ball pass

533
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: that that we used to see a lot when he

534
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: was a Laker. That kind of thing, just it causes

535
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: chaos and then you can capitalize on the chaos. The

536
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Speaker 1: one example I'll give is there was a play. I

537
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: don't remember who the push ahead guard was, but there

538
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: was Baysmore in the left corner, and uh that push

539
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: ahead to bays Moore in the left corner forced LaMarcus

540
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: Aldridge to close out because Baysmore's man was not back.

541
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Speaker 1: And when LaMarcus Aldridge closed out, Baysmore saw DeAndre Jordan

542
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: running down the lane and just threw it up and

543
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: he dunked it for an hand one, and that's an

544
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Speaker 1: example of of of generating easy shots. This is a

545
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Speaker 1: theme that we're going to talk about when we talk

546
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Speaker 1: about bad th HT But like, uh, good offense isn't

547
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: about making one good play. It's about understanding that over

548
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: the course of a game, you need to generate eight

549
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: to nine potentially more depending on the pace of the game,

550
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: but eight to nine high quality possessions. And so there

551
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: are going to be possessions in that set where the

552
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: defense is really locked in and you're in the half

553
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: court and nothing's easy, and you really need to manufacture

554
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: something easy. So what that means is when they do

555
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: make mistakes, when you can beat them down the floor,

556
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: when you can make an easy read, you absolutely have

557
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: to capitalize on it because those are the ones that

558
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: you need to buffer and cancel out the tougher possessions

559
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: or you're dragged down into the half court and and

560
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: that pushing in transition is the easiest way to do that.

561
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: And I thought the Lakers just in general did a

562
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Speaker 1: really good job yesterday of pushing the ball in transition.

563
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: And it helps to have so many guys who can

564
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: handle the ball because what you did it was harder

565
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Speaker 1: when you push the ball up the floor and it'd

566
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Speaker 1: be West Matthews, or you push the ball up the

567
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: floor and it would be you know, uh an inferior

568
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: ball handle or someone like you know, even Kyle Kuzma

569
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: like struggled with that a lot. Having these guards who

570
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: can all make decisions and put the ball on the

571
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: floor make it easier to push the ball up the

572
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: floor because the guy running the wing is capable of

573
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: making a complicated dribble move and making a complicated read

574
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yeah, for sure. And we kind

575
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: of saw Rondo in that Westbrook role right where he

576
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: was the one kind of pushing it up. And you

577
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: see remnants of like what Vogel was talking about where

578
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: they want to be like a full time transition team, right,

579
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: they want to get most of their points in transition.

580
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: And and again I think the stats that you get

581
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: at most dirty percent of your if you can if

582
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: you're running on every play, which Westbrook does, but still

583
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: you get like your buckets in transition. But you kind

584
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: of see that the remnants of it. You saw Ellington

585
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: and a base more sprinting to corners, and I think

586
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: you talked about as well, like DeAndre Jordan's sprinting to

587
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: the lane and getting the lob dunk as e d

588
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: as the trailers, So you see a little bit of it.

589
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: I think you'll see it more on Lebron and Rust play,

590
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right. I love seeing them push the

591
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: ball a little bit kind see what they're trying to

592
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: do with that. UM. I guess my final kind of

593
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: what I liked um about the about the game was

594
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: seeing Dwight Howard back. Um. His energy is still super

595
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: infectious and even comes off even more when you're there.

596
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: You see him kind of screaming and running and all

597
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: the stuff they don't show on TV, where like he

598
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: he hits uh, he makes a layub of offensive rebound

599
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: and he's screaming for the next five to ten seconds

600
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, of that play, UM, and he's really in

601
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: with his teammates, and you see it in the timeouts

602
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: as well, going out to every single player kind of

603
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: giving them acourageman. So it was cool to see him.

604
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: It was funny because the game started obviously with LaMarcus

605
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Aldridge right and DeAndre Jordan's and both of them looked

606
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: very comfortable with like both of you, like they both

607
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: told each other. Hey, like, let's chill, you know what

608
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, let's both of us kind of we know,

609
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: we know what the deal is. It's preseason, like we're

610
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: both going to kind of chill. LaMarcus Aldrids look comfortable

611
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: as hell. He was hitting his jumpers in the mid range,

612
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: kind of getting to where he wants. DeAndre Jordan's you know,

613
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: he didn't look great and he's getting the flag as

614
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: he I guess he should, but he didn't look he

615
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: was going at any kind of energy level. And then

616
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard checks in and then, uh, you can see

617
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: the look on LaMarcus Audrey's face just being there. Dwight

618
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Howard is like sprinting right from one end to the other,

619
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: and I could see Aldres just looking at Dwight like

620
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know kind of thing like

621
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty season. Um. So it's cool to see

622
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: his energy back. I like him as like when you

623
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: have these bucket getters, having like a good screen setter

624
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: I think really helps Dwight. I think we talked about

625
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: earlier the screens he was sending from League Monk, screens

626
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: he sets for Wayne Llaton just he's he's really smart

627
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: with it too, Like he'll set the screen and then roll,

628
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: so it kind of takes both the fenders with him.

629
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's just very smart with those kind of things.

630
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: He has all the tricks up the sleeve. Um, he's

631
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: still got a bunch of offense rebounds because he just

632
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: knows how to kind of push players what to get

633
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: away with. And Uh, I just missed having him on

634
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: the team, and I'm glad he's back. He looks he

635
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: looks pretty close for the player he was that year.

636
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: He had a lot of fouls that I know people

637
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: are kind of on him on his six fouls, but

638
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: just being there, a lot of those fouls felt like

639
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: they could have gone either way. Honestly, a lot of

640
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: contact at the ref was kind of I don't know,

641
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: trying to show that that context is not allowed for

642
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: some reason or whatever. But I just like what I

643
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: saw from him. Um, I thought he was I thought

644
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: the gap between him and DeAndre is kind of sizeable

645
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: at least for right now, Like you could tell his impact,

646
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: uh is still there. So what do you think of Dwight?

647
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Because I thought he had a I thought he had

648
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a really nice for his showing. Yeah, the third good

649
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: thing that I put down was that our vertical presence

650
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: was back. Um. I I was impressed by both guys

651
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because I was going to

652
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 1: cut them slack for the obvious things that people were

653
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna pick apart. Like I didn't watch the game live

654
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: because I had a Men's League game that I had

655
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: to go to that was all the way across towns.

656
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: It was like a two hour adventure, and uh when

657
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: I got back, I didn't get a chance to watch

658
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: it until the following morning, and so all I saw

659
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: was what was what was on Twitter. And on Twitter,

660
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I saw people complaining about DeAndre Jordan and and and

661
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard as well, and I wanted to be like, Okay,

662
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: you know what are you asked King Dwight Howard and

663
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: and uh DeAndre Jordan to do be back line defenders

664
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: right and then also be kind of rim spacers. And

665
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: they're out there playing with absolutely no passing. And I

666
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: think you know, when Rondo got out there, you immediately

667
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: saw Dwight get a deep seal in a layup. That

668
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things where like you need

669
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: i Q surrounding those guys to bring the best out

670
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: of them, and then just in general, like you know,

671
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: it's there's such an obvious better fit for this team's identity.

672
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: You know, a guy like Montrese Harrold is obviously going

673
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: to be better as like an active offensive rebounder. He's

674
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: obviously going to be better if in the event that

675
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: you need to attack mismatches right switching defense, you know,

676
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: guard gets on him. Treas as a guy you can

677
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: throw the ball down to. Dwight's probably not you know, uh,

678
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's probably not. There are obvious advantages there. Marcusol

679
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: better shooter, the guy who's a much better passers. So

680
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: if you're running the offense out of the top of

681
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: the key from you know, dribble handoffs and stuff, like

682
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: a guy like Marcus sul is gonna look better with

683
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors when you're running a million dribble

684
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: handoffs with the Stephen and uh and Clay than it

685
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: is with you know, uh an offense the way that

686
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: this Laker team is built. At the end of the day, though,

687
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: what what the Lakers need out of that position is

688
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: that that vertical spacing, in that vertical presence defensively, because

689
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: you're funneling guys into the pain, So you need guys

690
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: who can jump into tur guys at the rim, and

691
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: then offensively, you've got all these passers who are looking

692
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: for an option when they get into the lane to

693
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: either drop off to somebody or throw it up around

694
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: the rim. So it was just refreshing for me in

695
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: general to see that DeAndre Jordan needs to do a

696
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: better job of running the floor. That's just that's I

697
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: called that out this morning. One of the biggest things

698
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: I noticed is like when he was in the half court,

699
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: I actually thought he was pretty good defensively. Uh, he

700
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: blocked a couple of shots and deterred several others. There

701
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: were a bunch of plays where guys would cut to

702
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: the basket and beat someone back door or something, but

703
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan will be waiting there and so they dribble

704
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: it back out Like that's something that doesn't show up

705
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: in the box score, but that actually matters because it's

706
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: saved a defensive breakdown. So I actually thought he was

707
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: good in the half court. He struggled in transition because

708
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: he just wasn't running hard enough. That's something that's probably

709
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: part of its conditioning. There was um Mike Trudell specifically

710
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: mentioned that on the LFR pod that his uh that

711
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: traditionally guys have a light day before a game, and

712
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's been in a rough week of practice, and

713
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: they practiced the previous day, so he's not like his

714
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: legs aren't underneath him. So there's some stuff to to

715
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: to like kind of to factor in there, if that

716
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: makes sense. Dwight Howard, same old Dwight stuff, like, you know,

717
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: silly fouls, things along those lines, a little bit, a

718
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: little bit too over zealous offensively, a couple of plays

719
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: where like he tried to make something out of nothing

720
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: on a post up where he probably should just kick

721
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: it out to the guards and said another screen. You know,

722
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: but I am like, I saw the DeAndre Jordan and

723
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Dwight thing and I was super happy with it, because

724
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: one Dre is not gonna play that much. So whatever

725
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: you get out of him is is gravy. Uh and too.

726
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: I still absolutely love Dwight Howard for twenty minutes a game,

727
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: playing alongside a Lebron and Anthony Davis. I just think

728
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: he's a seamless fit who is who, who brings mostly

729
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: good to the table, and it is an awesome Like

730
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: he's just he's just he's just the perfect guy to

731
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: have that curveball for we're gonna go big, you know,

732
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: if if a d is gonna be at the four,

733
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: Dwight's the guy that I want there next to him.

734
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: I just think I think he's a natural fit in

735
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 1: that position. So, um, did you have any other good things?

736
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Are we moving on to the bad things? Yeah? I

737
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: think that was most of the good things. And you

738
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: talked about DeAndre not running the floor like he was

739
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: definitely in that like let me give the last amount

740
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: of energy, you know, possible, while still to look kind

741
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: of like I'm on the floor. Like both of those

742
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: blocks were him, just like because the coverage, I mean,

743
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in this kind of dropback coverage right

744
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: where like he's trying to protect from the lab while

745
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: also just making sure of the guard doesn't get to

746
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: the rim, Like that's his defensive coverage. Like expecting DeAndre

747
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: Jordan to go out and switch, it's just not feasible, right,

748
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: that's a position he's going to be in, And I

749
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: thought he did his job, Like his job is to

750
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: make sure that law is taken away and make sure

751
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: the guard doesn't just get to the rim, and if

752
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna get they're gonna shoot a floater. I think

753
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Basemore talked about this at his press conference, but he's like,

754
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: those guards are gonna shoot floaters over DeAndre, Jordan, A

755
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: D and Dwight all night. You live with those results

756
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna make a good enough percentage of them.

757
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: I thought the nets hit some tough ones. There's one

758
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: where like DeAndre Bembrey banked in this floater over Dwight Howard.

759
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that one. I remember

760
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: seeing that one in presson. I'm like, what the hell?

761
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: But but yeah, so like if they make those, then

762
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: they make those. But I thought he kind of did

763
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: his job. He's not this big, like switchable kind of

764
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: big defender. We oh there five ten minutes, give a

765
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: D a break from being the center. That's his job,

766
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: and I think he'll do that um in real games.

767
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: So I think we saw a good showing that we

768
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: can kind of move on to the road really quickly,

769
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: just piggyback on that. Like like when you play Portland,

770
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: for instance, you expect some shot making, like there's you

771
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: play solid defense and they're gonna make some shots with

772
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: hands in their face, like you know, Brooklyn's kind of

773
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: the same way, you know, even with their bench guys

774
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: like that. I think his name is Cam Johnson. I

775
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: could be wrong about that, but what he was lighting

776
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: up Ellington in the first half, making all these like

777
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: off the dribble jump shots, and it's like at the

778
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, yeah, you can pressure

779
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: him a little bit more, make him feel uncomfortable. Don't

780
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but like part of the deal with

781
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: teams like that is that you you make them take

782
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: a ton of contested jump shots and you live with

783
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: the results. Are gonna make some The reason why they lost,

784
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, the reason why they kind of trailed most

785
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: of the game was the physical dominance, which we'll get

786
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: to in a minute. Like they were just really small

787
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: because they were missing all their forwards and so they

788
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: gave up a million offensive rebounds and and just in general,

789
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: they struggled with the physicality of the nets because they

790
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: were less athletic and smaller. That's to be expected. And

791
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: when you're when all of your athleticism is sitting on

792
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the bench, you know what I mean. But just in general,

793
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: like I I think you gotta live with a certain

794
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: amount of shot making. But anyway, go ahead and give

795
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: us your first three things. First of the three things

796
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: that the Lakers needed to work on, uh yeah, well,

797
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean just as close out. That last part is crazy.

798
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: We went through a whole like first game preseason recap

799
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: and we didn't even talk about Anthony Davis, which is

800
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: is kind of which is kind of funny. We both

801
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: ringed up like six things that didn't include him, So

802
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: I guess energy A D was still like kind of

803
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: like a seventy energy level, so I don't really have

804
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: much on him. He was settling. He was against Paul

805
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: millsap and taking jumpers and stuff like that, but I guess,

806
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: like they're defensively, I thought he was good on defense. Yeah,

807
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: he also was kind of in this like let me

808
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: give as much energy the least amount of energy possible.

809
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: But but like yeah, also like when he got on

810
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: some switches, he shut them down, you know, when the

811
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: guards were against him and made them take tough shots.

812
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: So again, like A D is tough to kind of

813
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: judge him on there. It's just nice to see him

814
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: out there. But I guess, like my first one that

815
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: they need to work on. They definitely need to, Like

816
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: they did a lot of switching early on if he

817
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: saw that, but it was a lot of like where

818
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: the guard would end up on LaMarcus Aldridge, and then

819
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: they did this unnecessary doubling uh right away, and it

820
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: led to a bunch of open shots early. So I

821
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: just think they need to kind of work on what

822
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: they want to do defensively. Um. I think it's pretty

823
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: clear they didn't want to leave the guard on Aldridge

824
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: by themselves, but I thought it was just way too

825
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: much double team. So what do you kind of see

826
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: from the Demons, because I thought in the first quarter

827
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: at least they were kind of confused on what they

828
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: wanted to do. It was a lot of unnecessary kind

829
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: of switches and Brooklyn basically went to this like mismatch

830
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: hunting and again this preseason hard to tell, but I

831
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: think that's the first thing there. Even with the starting lineup,

832
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: even with a D and DJ there, I thought it

833
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of times where like th HD would

834
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: end up on LaMarcus Aldridge or you know, like things

835
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: like that would happen. So I just need to clean

836
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: that up, I guess, And I know vote will will

837
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: Um after looking at this film, he probably hasn't turned

838
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: this game off since then, so I'm sure. I'm sure

839
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: he'll get into that. But what do you see, I

840
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: guess from the defense overall, So the Lakers will do

841
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: some switching this year by design. Um that that's kind

842
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: of the way that the roster has shaped up. UM.

843
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I see lineups like Russ Space more Areasa Lebron a

844
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: D that could theoretically switch every screen. Um. But I

845
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: don't think they were switching by design in that game

846
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. I think what happened was is

847
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: they were in a drop coverage and the guards were

848
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: getting caught way too easily on the screen and taking

849
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: way too long to get over the top, and it

850
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: was forcing a switch. And the reason why you could

851
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: tell is what would usually happen is the guard would

852
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: chase over the top and eventually get back to the

853
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: to the offensive player, and then DeAndre Jordan's or or

854
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Dwight or a d would point over to the to

855
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: the other guy and ask for a switch because they

856
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: thought it was too late at that point. And you know,

857
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: there's there's two sides to that, because some of that

858
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: is like the big needs to the big needs to

859
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: recover back, and then the some of that is the

860
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: the guard needs to fight better over the top. But

861
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're playing Paul Millsap and LaMarcus Aldridge,

862
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: you should never be switching small guys onto them because

863
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: those are two specific power forwards that fit more into

864
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: that Mantrese Harold type of mold that we talked about

865
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: where they're not big defensive presence is they're not big

866
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: rebounding presences. But what they are our guys offensively, if

867
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: they get a small guy on them, they're almost a

868
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: guaranteed basket. And so it's it's not the kind of

869
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: thing that you would like to switch if you could

870
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: avoid it. So uh, in general, I don't want to

871
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: overthink it because I think some of this just takes time.

872
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: But in like if you're in a drop coverage, it

873
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: depends on the fact that the guard can fight over

874
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: the top so that they don't have to switch. Because

875
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: the the the big is going to kind of position

876
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: himself between the rim and the offensive player, and then

877
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: as soon as the point of attack defender recovers, he

878
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: recovers to the big. That's the way that that coverage works,

879
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna work if the guard dies on

880
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: every single screen. Now, some of this is these guys,

881
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: these uh, these guards that we have like Ellington, like

882
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: Monk in the past haven't really been held to that

883
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: high of a standard defensively, So there's gonna be an

884
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: adjustment period. Also, when you're thin like a Malik Punk,

885
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier to get caught on a

886
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: on that type of screen. But I do think that

887
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: through effort and focus and through reps, they can eventually

888
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: figure that out. I do think that that's something that

889
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: they can get better at. The Other thing, too, is

890
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: inevitably you're going to give up those kinds of switches

891
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: occasionally during the game. Like even if you fight over

892
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: three of the screens, on that fourth one, maybe they

893
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: catch you good and they get you switched and down

894
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: on the block, so you have to double. And when

895
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: they did those doubles on Sunday, they were sloppy on

896
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: that back side. There was one where, uh, they kicked

897
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: out to Bruce Brown. Aldridge kicked out to Bruce Brown

898
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis easily could have rotated over and swallowed

899
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: up the shot, but he was kind of just an

900
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: upright position. He wasn't in the defensive stance. He was

901
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: slow to step over and Bruce Brown. Brown knocked down

902
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: the three that that was always the strength of the

903
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: Laker defense in the previous two years. Is Okay, we

904
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: had a breakdown and so we had to double. Now

905
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: what do we do? What do we do on the

906
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: back end? And they were always very sharp at that.

907
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Rotate and recover, rotate and recover, talking making sure that

908
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: everybody was just kind of on a string defensively. That

909
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: comes in time. So I'm not terribly concerned about it

910
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason, but just in general, when you do

911
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: give up those types of mismatches and you have to double,

912
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: the Lakers got to really tighten things up on the

913
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: back end as a rotating defense. No, yeah, I agree

914
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: with that, and they will. I mean, it's tough to

915
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: kind of judge with the guards that they played, right,

916
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn is. I thought Kendrick Nunn had a pretty

917
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: good defensive game, just like overall, I think he's a

918
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a good defender. It's just he was

919
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: too small sometimes, like again when he's on like Audrey

920
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: jorm Mill, sap Um just too small to kind of

921
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: deal with them. They gave up a lot offensive rebounds. Again,

922
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: this goes back to my like, gave as much effort

923
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: as you at least amount of effort as you can.

924
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: Like DJ and A. Do you want to know part

925
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: of like boxing out right, they weren't trying to box out,

926
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: They were just trying to jump up and kind of

927
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: get the rebounds, and they gave up a lot of

928
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: offensive rebounds that way. One of them, I think, just

929
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: like A do you try to jump on and get

930
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: in and went to forgot the guy's name and he

931
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: got filed shooting shooting the shot. So a lot of

932
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: those kind of possessions happen. I expect those things to

933
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: kind of clean up as we go here. And again,

934
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: like it's hard to judge any of this without Russell

935
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: Westbrook and Lebron on the floor, Like I need to

936
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: see how the defense works with with them on the floor.

937
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: So everything changes when those two get in there, and

938
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: when a D is at the five as well. We

939
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: saw some a D at the five right like when

940
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: DJ was out, but uh and when D why Howard

941
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: wasn't on the floor. But I just want to see

942
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: all of that together and hopefully we do on Wednesday.

943
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: What's your kind of first thing that you disliked? So

944
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: really quickly, just following up on what you just said

945
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: the in general when you're evaluating these preseason games, and

946
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: that the LFR probably did a good job of of

947
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: kind of describing this, but like, you're not really looking

948
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: at the scoreboard because you're not fielding a real basketball team.

949
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: So I look at two specific things. I look at

950
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: individual skill sets, like what am I what am I

951
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: seeing out of an individual basketball player? That translates to

952
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: when you have the full team, which we'll talk about

953
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: even more when we dive into the guards a little

954
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: bit more. But the other thing is like specific lineups,

955
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: and uh, like that starting lineup, for instance, is a

956
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: lineup you might occasionally see this year a D with

957
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: the center and three guards who can shoot and dribble.

958
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: You know that that's that's an example of something you

959
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: can watch. But watching the scoreboard in general is just

960
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: kind of a fool's Errand in that kind of of

961
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: environment when you're not fielding your real basketball team, Lebron

962
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: and Russ just do so much, especially on the offensive end,

963
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: to to kind of just put guys in the right spots,

964
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: slotting them in the in the right spots. My um uh. Second,

965
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: because I put guards fighting over screens, which kind of

966
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: piggybacks of what you were saying. But the second thing

967
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: I put for the three things to work on with

968
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: guards missing box outs. I and you had mentioned this

969
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: in in in your last segment, but like I I

970
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: counted miss box outs from every single guard and that

971
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: is just that is just little focused stuff that can't

972
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: be let down. There was one where there was one

973
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: where bays More uh was guarding a man in the

974
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 1: corner and after the shot went up, he just turned

975
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: towards the rim and started walking and uh as soon

976
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: as you walked in, the guy crashed right out of

977
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: the corner and got an offensive rebound. There was a

978
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: possession from th h T really really well put together

979
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: where he bothers the ball handler at the point of attack,

980
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: gets caught on the screen. They have to switch. Anthony

981
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Davis is the one who switches, so it's actually not

982
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: that bad of a switch. And th HD like squatted

983
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: really low and and and prevented Paul Millsap from from

984
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: getting position, but then he got switched again onto a

985
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: guard in the corner and the shot went up and

986
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: he didn't box out and gave up an offensive rebound.

987
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: The ball got knocked out of bounds, and it's like

988
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: you did of that possession like an all defensive level defender,

989
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: and you just missed the last, arguably most important part,

990
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: and that that that all is is stuff that just

991
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: needs to be tightened up. Malik Monk in particular, was

992
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: caught in a couple of physical mismatches. Or he'd be

993
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: guarding I'm horrible remembering these, you know, G league level

994
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: guys that are on the nets, but like he'd be

995
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: guarding a six six super athletic guard and he's six three,

996
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: and it's like it's not enough to run up and

997
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: put a forearm on him, because if you run up

998
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: and put a forum on him, he's just gonna bully

999
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: you physically and get an offensive rebound. On those guys

1000
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: that have that distinct size advantage, you need to really

1001
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: technically sound box out. You need to squat into a

1002
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: defensive stance, spread your arms and make him literally go

1003
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: over your back so that what if he does get

1004
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: the offensive rebound, he gets called, you know, for the

1005
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: offensive foul. Those are the kinds of the kinds of

1006
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: things that uh that I noticed, and you know, just

1007
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: in general, uh uh, the effort I thought was there.

1008
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: It's just that little bit of focus. So I'm not

1009
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: concerned about it in the long run. It's just something

1010
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: that I noticed from the game that needs to be

1011
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: tightened up a little bit, Yeah, for sure. And I

1012
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: thought like, this is kind of the trade off, right,

1013
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: like when you trade for like these kind of offensive

1014
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: these offense to focus guards, Like the trade off is

1015
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: kind of the defensive. I don't know ever, but kind

1016
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: of the defensive focus I guess, and guards who are

1017
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: kind of make their name on offense is gonna take

1018
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: time for those guys to kind of adjust adjust their UM.

1019
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't on what they can do. So I agree

1020
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: with that um and we'll see, Like I feel like

1021
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: Vogo will be able to help them. Malik Monk reminds

1022
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: me a lot of like I guess where Kuzma was

1023
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: when when he was before he got with Vogel as well,

1024
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Like his's just his defensive kind of now his like

1025
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: how he how he defends. I guess it's just not

1026
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: technical like the way he tries it goes around screens,

1027
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: you talked about he gets caught a lot, and I

1028
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: think it will be help with Vogels, so I agree

1029
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: with that. I think they'll be better. Though my third one,

1030
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: I guess, like I think this is my third one

1031
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: that I want to see kind of worked on, is

1032
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: uh those like kind of I know that we said

1033
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: Rust and Lebron are gonna be on the floor a lot,

1034
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: but I do think we need to find a way

1035
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: to have some kind of shot creation when they're not

1036
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: on the floor, Like like I feel like I know

1037
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: PhD is probably not the right guy for that, but

1038
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: we just need to find a way, whether it's Kendrick

1039
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: Nunn being the ball handler, just need to find the

1040
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: lineup that can great. Um Russell Lebron again will be

1041
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: on the floor for most of the time, but I

1042
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: just want to find a way to get enough good

1043
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: shot creation when they're not there, like when it was

1044
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: a d at the starting lineup, and again DeAndre Jordan

1045
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: probably won't start a lot of games, but or maybe

1046
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: he will, who knows, but but but but still like that,

1047
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: I think we have like eight points or something through

1048
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of the first quarter, you know, and

1049
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: just not getting good shots and a lot of this. Again,

1050
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: I talked about the A D was kind of settling,

1051
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: took a lot of midrange jumpers over Paul Millsapp. You

1052
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: should have Paul Millstapp, who should have no business guarding

1053
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis in any kind of setting. I don't care

1054
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: what what season it is, but yeah, he took. But

1055
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: that's a A D likes to do that. It just

1056
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: it is what it is he does. But again, like

1057
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: just in that kind of setting, like it's Paul Millsap,

1058
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: like get to the rim, you know, like trying to

1059
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: get to the basket. Yeah, like we said go inside out,

1060
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: but but yeah, he he does like to settle for that.

1061
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, like that's but I would like I would

1062
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: like to see some way to get better shot creation.

1063
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Kendrick Nunn, Like Henry Nunn started to get comfortable,

1064
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: he started to pull up. But he's not like a

1065
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: shot creator. He's kind of creates for more for himself.

1066
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: THD as well. We talked about him just gonna find

1067
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: the lineup that can create without Russ and Braun at

1068
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: least for a few minutes there. I know they'll play

1069
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: a lot. So that was my kind of final if

1070
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: I want to nitpick Um in the preseason first game

1071
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: of the preseason Um, that would be like my final

1072
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: nitpick there. So I I I tend to agree that

1073
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: outside of Lebron, Russ and Rondo, who won't play that

1074
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: there's that you don't have high level passers on the roster.

1075
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: This is something that a lot of Laker outlets have

1076
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: been kind of harping on in the last few weeks.

1077
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: You have a bunch of kind of one track mind

1078
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: type of offensive players. So I think the way you

1079
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: counter that is won by staggering and try to have

1080
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Lebron and Russ on the floor as much as possible.

1081
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: But two, if you can't through resting or whatever it

1082
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: may be, load management injuries, you've got to simplify their reads.

1083
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk a little bit more about this

1084
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: when we get to my last thing, which has has

1085
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: to do with th HT. But like if you so,

1086
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: for instance, put Ellington in the strong side corner, have

1087
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: Dwight set the screen and try to go four out

1088
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: with the other guys and get you know, either Kendrick

1089
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Nun or Malik Monk with the ball in their hands

1090
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: and and make it really simple. Here comes the ball screen.

1091
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: If he goes under, you shoot it every single time.

1092
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: If he chases over the top, you continue to go

1093
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: down the lane and you either pass it into the

1094
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: pocket to Dwight, or if the guy helps out of

1095
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: the corner, you kick it back to Ellington. Like make

1096
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: it easy basketball, you know. Uh. One of the uh

1097
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that my last college coach

1098
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: that I played for used in order to try to

1099
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: help make help guys with easy reads is to play

1100
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: three on three. Uh. He would. He would even if

1101
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: he had enough guys to play five and five. He's

1102
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: set up three on three because mentally, the game is

1103
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: just a little bit easier to process in three on

1104
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: three because it's it's just it's you're you're taking away

1105
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: all of the complexities of ten guys on the floor,

1106
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, here's my defender, here's the guy who's

1107
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: screening for me in his defender, and here's the spot

1108
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: up shooter on the weak side, and just making really

1109
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: really basic basketball decisions and repetitively making those decisions until

1110
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: you figure it out. I think that's the way you

1111
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: do it, as you Ellington is a real easy strong

1112
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: side corner option because the guys probably not gonna help,

1113
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: so it turns into a real true two man game

1114
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: with your screener. But if he does, it's a really

1115
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: easy kick out to a really, really good shooter. Those

1116
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: are the ways that you can simplify that. But I'm

1117
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: with you in general, like, in order in order for

1118
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: the non Lebron minutes to be positive, you either need

1119
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: to stagger like crazy and hope that Russ gives you

1120
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: an m v P caliber season out of that out

1121
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: of that type of role, or you need to make

1122
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: it so that when Russell Lebron are off the floor,

1123
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: your guards are set up to succeed by simplifying their

1124
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: their decision making. Um. The last thing that I put

1125
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: as a thing to work on was bad th h

1126
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: t um, and I'm not gonna spend too much time

1127
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: on it because it's things we've all mentioned, decision making, Like,

1128
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: he just had a tendency to force things and and

1129
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: and pass up on easy options that were there. You know,

1130
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: a basketball player that's that's forcing almost always leads to

1131
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: a bad outcome. And the reason why it's pretty simple.

1132
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: When a basketball player is forcing, he becomes predictable, and

1133
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: so the point of attack defender has a really easy

1134
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: time staying in front of him. Usually, Also, the refs

1135
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: can see when a player is forcing. If I if

1136
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a driving lane and I forced the

1137
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: ball to the right and I just start plowing into

1138
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: the lane, the refs are naturally going to let a

1139
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: lot of contact go. The refs just kind of naturally

1140
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: benefit or excuse me, will reward good basketball and will

1141
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: naturally punish bad basketball. It's like the player control foul.

1142
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: It's like when you when you plow somebody over. Even

1143
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: if the guy's moving his feet a little bit and

1144
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: he's kind of out of position, the refs just gonna

1145
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of naturally be like, like, you're out of control

1146
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: going into the lane. So this looks like an offensive

1147
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: foul to me. You know. That's kind of the thing

1148
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: that you notice a lot with THHD in that game,

1149
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: was just putting his head down and forcing his way

1150
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: into the lane and it leading to bad outcomes through

1151
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: revs letting contact go and defenders kind of being positioned

1152
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: between him and the rim. That's just something for him

1153
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: to work on. And then the last part I put

1154
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: there was failing to finish plays defensively, like lots of activity,

1155
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: really good disruption at the point of attack, switching and

1156
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: getting low and keeping the big from getting good post

1157
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: position and then missing a box out or you know,

1158
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: making two rotations but missing that third rotation. Those are

1159
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that I'd like to see t

1160
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: HD get better at his understanding that the defensive possession

1161
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: doesn't end until your team possesses the basketball. So what

1162
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: were the things that you were critical of with th

1163
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: HD in that game? So like watching THHD, always think

1164
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: like there's another universe where like THHT is on some

1165
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: lottery team, right, and they're like, hey, you're our future,

1166
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, and here's the ball, and here's thirty pick

1167
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: and roll as a game, get all the reps you want.

1168
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, don't care about scoreboard, don't care about anything

1169
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: like this is built around you. You know, you choose

1170
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: where the passes go, and we're just gonna let you

1171
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: get all the reps in the world. And I related

1172
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: to this too, like I think it was eighteen before

1173
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: Lebron got here, obviously, and we did that with Brandon Ingram, right,

1174
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: like Luke Ballng said, here, Brandon Ingram, here's the ball.

1175
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: You have enough ball handling. We have lots of ball

1176
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: next to you, but you're gonna be the primary creator.

1177
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: Here's all the reps in the world. And it was

1178
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: ugly a lot of the times because it's brand Ingram

1179
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: and THD is actually ahead of Ingram in terms of

1180
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: like just the you know, ball handling and able to

1181
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: get to the rim and you know all that kind

1182
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: of stuff. He was ahead of Ingram. He just was.

1183
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: But now New Orleans is getting the fruit of that labor,

1184
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: right because now England, even though it's still not great,

1185
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,959
Speaker 1: even though he's probably not a you know, top level

1186
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: playoff team type of creator, but he's a good shot creator.

1187
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: And so that's how I kind of see with THHT

1188
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: like he's not going to get the reps that these

1189
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: other players do, all these other lottery picks, and he

1190
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a lottery pick, but you know that type of

1191
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: talented player would get. He's not gonna get those here.

1192
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: So again, like to me, he was in that Lebron

1193
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Russ role last night, and then you put a twenty

1194
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: year old in a Lebron Russ roll, So it's gonna

1195
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: look like like that's that's the kind of basketball you're

1196
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: gonna get when you get those guys being the main

1197
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: shot creator. So I agree with you, yess to become

1198
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: a better pastor, you guess to make the easy reads

1199
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: a little bit better. Right, Like there was a there

1200
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: was one driver like he drove and Baisemore was open

1201
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: in the corner and he got fouled on it. Like

1202
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: he did get fouled, but Basemore was like having his

1203
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: hands up, you know, in the air and then like

1204
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: you know when you clap, like when you don't get

1205
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: the ball and you're standing in the corner. It was

1206
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: one of those, and so so so there was a

1207
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of little moments like that the only team was open,

1208
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: he didn't find him, and I don't expect him to

1209
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: make those complicated like dry, where's the first help and

1210
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: second help coming from? So he it's a skip pass

1211
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: to the corner, like I don't make me expect him

1212
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: to make those. But just like those, I thought he

1213
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: had some nice dump off passes as well to DJ

1214
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But yeah, I agree with you,

1215
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: needs to work on his playmaking. I just don't know

1216
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: if we'll see like that those advanced reads or even

1217
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: the advanced reads this year, but I think he can

1218
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: get the simple ones down. You'll get enough minutes to

1219
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: at least get those um next to Russ and Ron

1220
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: and you can make those simple reads when you're attacking

1221
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: a compromised defense that the reeds are a little bit easier.

1222
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: Those like first drive, Okay, where's this help and where's

1223
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: the rotating rotation coming from? Those kind of things. I think, well,

1224
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: we will take time, but I agree with you, those

1225
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: are things he needs to work on. Yeah, Like the

1226
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: classic example is that Ellington kick out that I posted

1227
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Like it's very simple basketball play, like guy

1228
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: closes out on me, and because he was kind of

1229
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: chasing over screen. Well, in this case, Ellington used a

1230
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: V cut to get open, but he caught and beat

1231
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: his man off the dribble because of his shooting ability.

1232
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: Then he just drove into the lane and as soon

1233
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: as he got into the lane, there was a man

1234
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: who helped off the Kendrick Nunn and it was an

1235
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: easy kick out to the corner. That kind of basketball

1236
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: is easy, whereas if Ellington's you know, coming off of

1237
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: a pick and roll. As a ball handler, it's just

1238
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated, you know, in terms of

1239
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: there are pros and cons to to th HDS development,

1240
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: he's not getting reps on a bad team to learn

1241
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: how to be an advanced ball creator, the on ball

1242
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: creator the way that uh, you know, Brandon Ingram did.

1243
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: But if you watch Brandon Ingram now, he struggles in

1244
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the you know, kind of fundamental role

1245
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: player type things, like he's not very good defensively because

1246
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: he's been on team he's been on teams where he's

1247
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: been asked to just create everything offensively and kind of

1248
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: whatever you give us defensively he's good, you know. Or

1249
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: let's say, for instance, that the Pelicans had gotten Kyle

1250
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: Lowry and they were considered more of a championship type favorite,

1251
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: like Brandon Ingram would have been forced to do a

1252
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: lot more off the basketball. That's an element of his

1253
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: game that hasn't really been developed over the years. You know,

1254
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: th HT for what it's worth. With the reps that

1255
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: he's missing as an on ball creator, he's getting reps

1256
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: as an off ball type of role player. And in

1257
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: the future when he is on a team where he's

1258
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: the second or third best player on a championship level contender,

1259
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: it will benefit him that he knows how to play

1260
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: off the ball. And that he is dialed in defensively,

1261
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: those kinds of things there there are long term advantages

1262
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: to that, so I I do think that that's worth

1263
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: pointing out. Um So, we got about seven minutes I

1264
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: wanted to We may not have time to deep dive

1265
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: into each of these players, and we'll do it more

1266
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: as we go through the preseason. I had a specific

1267
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: topic that I wanted to talk about with you. Um So,

1268
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about how the point

1269
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: of attack defense this year is not as good, and

1270
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, the the example that most people were using

1271
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: from Sunday's game was Ellington and the fact that that

1272
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: Cam Thomas or whatever his name was was was lighting

1273
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: him up and getting decent shots off the dribble and

1274
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: getting by him. I think I there's and I could

1275
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: just be overly optimistic here, but the reason why I'm

1276
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: not necessarily concerned about it is I care so much

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: more about reactionary defense then point of attack defense because

1278
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: of the fact that when you get to the highest

1279
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: levels in the finals and in the conference finals, you're

1280
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: not keeping anybody at these superstars in front Like okay, yeah,

1281
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: like Ellington's struggle to stay in front of Cam Thomas,

1282
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: but like Lebron would struggle to stay in front of

1283
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. So like, when you're in that series, the

1284
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is gonna compromise you, like they're just going to

1285
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: if you're playing the Clippers, for instance, Let's say they

1286
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: play the Clippers in the conference finals. Like, you don't

1287
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: think Reggie Jackson and Paul George are gonna beat guys

1288
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: off the dribble, Like I don't care if you're playing

1289
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: bays Moore and Areza and Russ and you keep all

1290
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: your weak defenders on the bench, those they're you're gonna

1291
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: give up straight line drives. It's just kind of the

1292
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: the nature of it trying to guard these top tier teams.

1293
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: So what matters more to me is how you recover

1294
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: and react to that kind of stuff. So like, I

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: don't care as much about Ellington's ability to keep somebody

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: in front as long as he's dialed in in the rotations,

1297
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: because you will be able to double, you will be

1298
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: able to send help, and as long as once the

1299
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: ball has given up Ellington's sprints to the next shooter,

1300
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: it'll work, you know what I mean. That's that's the

1301
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: kind of thing that I think matters more. Does that

1302
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: make sense to me or to you? I should say

1303
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. The playoffs become this like this match

1304
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: hunting kind of thing, right where it's like you're kind

1305
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: of as good as your weakest defender in that kind

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: of way. So to me, it's all about health defense

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: as well. Like how did how did the Clippers I

1308
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: guess be Utah right, Like they went into this like

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01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: they knew that they would not switch with Gobert, right,

1310
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: so like Gobert just they just don't switch with him,

1311
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: so they would call his man up drive by kick,

1312
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: kick all the way and get gets three point shots

1313
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: off that. Ellenton and Monk are not gonna stay in

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01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: front of defenders, Like I don't expect them to. I

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: don't expect them to be like Alex Crusoe level defenders.

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01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: Like that's not fair. Um, But like I think when

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01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: you put guys in specialized roles, they can succeed. So

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Speaker 1: like if they're gonna run this like drop ice coverage

1319
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: and they just run that, you know, just be very clear, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you push your guy away from the screen and we'll

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01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: handle the rest, you know what I mean, Like, just

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01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: do your job. They're putting Ellenton on some guy and

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01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: telling him to shut him down. That's just not feasible.

1324
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: Molik Monk as well, Kendrick Nunn as well, those guys,

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01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: you just don't do that. Like, our starting lineup will

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01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: be Russ Braun and a D right, and that's Brun

1327
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: and a D are good enough health defenders to me

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: to be able to cover a lot of things like that,

1329
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: to cover gaps in that way, we had a small guarlt.

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: I think Dennis Freuder is a good defender as a

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: super small guard, right, He's a super small guard. The

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01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: Lakes were able to kind of cover that have the

1333
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: number one defense last year's still so I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think it is it is overstated, but I do

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01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: think it still matters. I don't think you can have

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: like four bad point of attack defenders together, right, like,

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: especially in closing lineups, like we're not gonna see none

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01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: and Ellington probably close games, right, you probably won't see that,

1339
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: Like it will be against second units where you kind

1340
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: of you kind of live with that. But I think

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01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: you can't have like and then you can have like

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: three or four bad point of attack defenders in your

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01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: closing lineup to me, like I feel like that's where

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: you kind of have to you have to make sure

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: you have really great defenders there. But I think it's overstated.

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01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: I think what they bring on offense more than mix

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: up for the defensive drop. They're like their threats as

1348
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: offensive players makes up for them. And that's the trade

1349
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: off that the Lakers did this offseason, and uh, I

1350
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: think it is worth it. Like, I think that's what

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01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: we'll see. There might be a little drop on defense

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01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: in that point of attack, but I think lay some

1353
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: more than a players to cover up for it. So

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01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: but will he that's a good point about not being

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: able to or not not being a good idea to

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01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: put multiple of them on the on the floor at

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01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: the same time. I mean, I was actually planning on

1358
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: talking about this today, we didn't really have time. But like,

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: aggregate athleticism and aggregate size matters to me because like so,

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Speaker 1: for instance, like we got bullied physically by Brooklyn, who's

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01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: not a physically dominating team because we had no forwards

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: in the game, so we were playing basically either four

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01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: guards in a center or three guards in and a

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01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: D in a center. That's basically what we did all

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01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: game long. And you know, Baysmore was probably the biggest

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01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: UH guard that we would play in one of those positions.

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: So the aggregate athleticism and physicality in that lineup is poor,

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, like but you know, the like Ellington getting

1369
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: physically bullied is going to be more noticeable in the

1370
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: lineup like that, whereas if he's in the starting lineup,

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: the proposed starting lineup, where he's with Lebron and he's

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: with Rus and he's with a D and he's with

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: Trevor Reza, the excuse me, the aggregate athleticism of that

1374
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: group in totality makes up for it. It's like the

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: Trey Young thing, you know. And we talked a little

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: bit about this, I think in the last pot or

1377
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: the one before, But like there are you know, the defense.

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Speaker 1: Defense is always evolved as well as offense in the NBA,

1379
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, all this off the dribble

1380
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: shooting and all of these comprehensive offensive you know, evolutions

1381
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: over the last ten years come hand in hand with

1382
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: defensive evolutions, and switch attacking was inherently going to lead

1383
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: to a counter from defenses and they exist now. And

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01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: we talked about that. You can do things to hide

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01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: Trey Young that three or four years ago you couldn't do.

1386
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: And so again, it works as long as you have

1387
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: all those other small forwards like the Hawks have, and

1388
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: you have Clint Capella under the rim like you as

1389
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: a that the aggregate total physicality of that defense made

1390
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: it so that Trey Young wasn't as much of a liability.

1391
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: And and so that's the way you gotta make it.

1392
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: Make it work now. In general, what will be interesting

1393
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: to see is how often Frank plays two of those guards,

1394
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: because the three guards that I'm gonna be looking at

1395
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,959
Speaker 1: as guys who are huge liabilities are gonna be Monk,

1396
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: None and Ellington. And I don't know that you can

1397
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: play two of them at the same time, but maybe

1398
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: maybe they do. And it's in the lineups with A

1399
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: D and Dwight. And then it's, like you said, you

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01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: simplify what you're asking them to do. Okay. I don't

1401
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: need you to be like a shutdown isolation defender. I

1402
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: just need you to force guys away from ball screens

1403
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: so we can ice on the side, so that forces

1404
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: guys into the rim, and we need you to chase

1405
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: guys off the line when you're closing out like you

1406
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: can simplify their role and then basically make it so

1407
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: that as long as they do these very simple things

1408
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: really well, then the totality of the scheme works because

1409
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: you have Anthony Davison Dwight out there. Though that's the

1410
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: way that I would look at it in terms of

1411
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: like a way to play two of them at the

1412
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: same time. Honestly, I don't think you'll see two of

1413
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: him at the same time very often, especially since Frank

1414
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: said he plans I'm playing Mellow a lot, So you're

1415
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of Mellow, Mellow and Areza and

1416
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: in days more. That just means there's just not a

1417
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: ton of opportunity there for those guys to be out there,

1418
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, in mass if that makes sense. And I

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01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: love that you brought up Trey Young because like, yes,

1420
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: you can attack Trey Young like they put him in

1421
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: the corner right against some corner shooter. Usually that's what

1422
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: the Hawks do. You can try to attack Trey Young.

1423
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna take like fifteen seconds of your shot clock.

1424
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: Just okay that the Hawks, you know, are able to

1425
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: switch and they know what they're doing. The same with

1426
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: the same thing with the Lakers. I remember in the playoffs,

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: like you would play Rondo a bunch, you could try to,

1428
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,959
Speaker 1: you know, mismatch attack Rondo. It's gonna take fifteen seconds

1429
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 1: shot clock. And then it's also Anthony Davis is gonna

1430
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: be waiting there. So like, yes, you can try to

1431
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: mismatch on against Rondo is a great example, by the way,

1432
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: I literally thought about that last night watching the game.

1433
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, we did it with Rondo. Yeah, Like so

1434
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: if you have Rono on the floor, teams you can

1435
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: try to attack him. But like the Lakers, they know

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01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: exactly what they do in that situation, right, It's not

1437
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: like they don't know they're gonna try too. So like

1438
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: Trey Young as well, is the example there Rondo as well,

1439
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: So like you can, it's gonna take. It's why teams

1440
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: like that are able to do it. Um, you go

1441
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: against schemes that aren't as good. I guess like it's

1442
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: it's tougher against good defenses right to mismatch hunt um.

1443
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: I think also the Hawks kind of play two teams

1444
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: that were probably the least equipped to attack mismatches in

1445
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Sixers. But still though, like Trey Young,

1446
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: is Trey Young is a short point guard was a

1447
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: huge offensive you know load, you should be able to

1448
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: attack him, but they just couldn't because the Hawks are

1449
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: extremely good and they surround him with a bunch of

1450
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: wings who can defend in a in a shop blocking

1451
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: center at the middle. So and I think the Lakers

1452
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: kind of can do that as well to an even

1453
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: better extent. So I agree with you it's hard to

1454
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: attack those and I don't. But I still think you

1455
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: can't have like three or four bad point of bad

1456
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: point of attack defenders who just get beat off the

1457
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: dribble time and time and time again. But you can

1458
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: simplify their roles. You can have a good defense, as

1459
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I think we saw that last year. There was a

1460
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: musical chairs with the Lakers, like you don't know who

1461
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: was playing nine to nine, and they still kept um,

1462
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: they still kept their defensive identity. So I agree with

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: you on that. Do you have anything else you wanna add? Uh? No,

1464
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: I think that's it. It's fun game. That first game

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01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: Lakers play again tomorrow. I believe that like tomorrow three o'clock,

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: Roger and I will most likely be recording on Thursday morning.

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Speaker 1: I would assume possibly Friday, but we'll probably go for

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Speaker 1: We'll probably shoot for Thursday so that we can get

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Speaker 1: the guys at dash Radio another show on Friday. UM.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for your support as always.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, this will air on dash Radio tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at seven am Pacific Standard time. Also, we will have

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Speaker 1: the podcast version of this uploaded here within the next

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Speaker 1: few minutes. Thank you, guys as always for your support.

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Speaker 1: We're in the mix of things now. We're looking forward

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Speaker 1: to a lot of la your basketball over the next

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Speaker 1: hopefully nine months or so. UM. Alright, guys, everybody, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the rest of your day and we will see you

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Thanks everyone,