WEBVTT - Questioning America’s Morals 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.160 What's up family, it's your girl, Tamika d. Mallory and 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:08.400 it is. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.280 Your boy might start a general. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.360 And we are your hosts of Street Politicians, the place 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.480 where the streets and politics me. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.520 What's going on? Family? 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.799 We are in the last episode of season seven, so 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.120 just interesting and you know, really, I mean, I just 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.400 I guess I'm proud of us that for seven seasons 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:39.920 we've been going strong, you know, really trying to bring 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.440 together all the things we care about, all the things 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.760 happening in our society, and talk about it on each week. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.440 You know, I don't know anyone who has a podcast, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.840 or anybody who's written a book, or anybody who works 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:58.240 on projects knows that sitting still focusing on your. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.120 Podcast or focusing on any type of project. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.840 Like I said, it's a lot of work, especially with 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.800 us the way that we travel and having to be 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.520 in hotels and the corner of the car and the 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.600 lobby of the place, and just trying to make sure 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.200 that we pump out this content and get you all 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.679 information every week. Is it is a task that we're 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.640 up for, but nonetheless it is a true task. And 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.800 so for seven seasons we've been going strong, working alongside 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:34.240 our family at Catscape Production, Janice and Anastasia and Cat 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:40.000 Trig herself, and then of course our team at Bond 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.800 Brand Management, LaToya Latitia. Just so many people that it 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.240 takes to pull this show together. And I was talking 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.240 to another friend of ours, Monique Presley, who has her 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.520 own show, and she was saying, and this on her 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.200 show is on Instagram. It's not even like a show 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.120 that has to go through a distribution network, like she's 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.200 producing a show on Instagram. But she was talking about 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.840 the editors and the people that she works closely with, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:07.840 and it is truly. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:08.160 A lot of work. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.119 So for seven seasons, many of y'all have been with 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.200 us from the beginning. I know my sister Sharon Mallory 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:22.960 watches every single episode. She's the critique lady, the cheerleader. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.440 She likes the content, she gets a lot of information 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.560 and also shares a lot of stuff with us. So 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.960 I just want to say thank you to everybody who's 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.400 been sticking with us, the new, the old, The ind 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.040 between people who have sent us messages were all types 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.200 of love, and of course all the guests throughout the year. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.720 You know, at one point one of the reasons why 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:47.840 I was consuner right, I was concerned, and I was. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:55.360 I was apprehensive because I know how difficult it is 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.919 to track down celebrities and trying to get them booked 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.480 to do your show. And if you show numbers are 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.680 not like you know whatever, you don't have the numbers 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.040 of the Breakfast Club. It's not easy to get certain 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.520 types of guests to see the I mean yeah, certain 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.960 types of guests, certain types of personalities and influencers to 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:21.120 see the the value in going to your show versus 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.320 going to someone else's show. But what I appreciate is 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.480 that between you, my son, and of course our whole 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.520 team at Black Effect Network. Of course you know Charlemagne 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.600 being you know, the key leader there, and. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:39.040 Of course Dolly a bunch of folks. But everybody said, stick. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.720 Exactly where you are, provide information, don't worry about trying 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:47.040 to get celebrities, just make People will follow if you lead, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.200 if you give them the content. And You've been saying 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.680 that since the beginning. And once I sort of got 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.520 that monkey off my back of worrying about who was 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.480 going to be the guests and who we are going 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.320 to have on every week, and I just started to 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.280 focus on the people who are our friends who do 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.920 good work. It seems like from there we've been, you know, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.160 really jelling and doing a good job. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.600 Yeah, man, I told you, you build it and they'll come, man. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.400 So like, shout out to everybody who's been with us. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.240 It's been a long journey. You know, we're just getting 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.480 better and better. We're learning more. Like you said, we 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.320 want to be more content based instead of you know, 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.560 guest based, but we do want guests who have who 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.560 can contribute something to the culture, contribute something to the 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.920 conversations and the dialogues that we have because we know that, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.960 you know, our perspectives are more you know, we we 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.080 we come from a different lens. It's like I come 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.400 from a different lens than you, and sometimes we need 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.440 people that come from different lens than us and have 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.919 more expertise and understanding on different topics. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:45.400 You know. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.640 So it's this This is like you said, it's been 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.800 a journey, but it's been a good journey. I enjoy 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.960 giving the content, I enjoy getting feedback. I enjoy our dialogues. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.640 I enjoy just educating because a lot of times we 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.599 come because we have to do this this show, we 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.320 edu ourselves on things that we probably normally will just see, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.680 but we know that we have to provide you know, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.680 we have to provide content for our listeners and and 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.280 our fans and the people who support us. So we 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.680 delve into these different topics and we listen and we 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.640 hear different and we get perspectives that we probably normally 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.360 wouldn't have got if we weren't doing this show. So this, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.600 this show has definitely been a blessing for me. I'm 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.880 looking forward to where it can go. I know, we 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.760 have big ideas that we want to do moving forward, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.479 a lot of you know, rearranging and adding and just 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.120 building it up because we understand how important it is, 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.680 you know, like especially in these times that we all 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.120 we understand how important media media is. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.919 You know, we've watched people control media. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.599 Us being you know, doing this work, being in the 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.159 civil rights space and being in the social justice space. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:55.159 We understand how media works. And we've been victims of media. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.960 We watched people paint pictures of us that you had 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.440 me looking at the media has had me looking at 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.000 the screen like, who are they talking about? 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.200 That? Ain't Patrician Sunny talking about? You know what? 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.560 I'm saying, so we understand that we want to we 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.960 want to bring some level of integrity, especially for our 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.880 audience and people in our communities who normally wouldn't go 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.240 to CNN or or all all of these spaces, and 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.440 they don't and they don't care too much about the 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.279 people on the blog site. So we want to be 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.680 the condom between all those things. We want to take 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.160 information from, you know, to the mainstream news. We want 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.760 to take information from the blog sites that we know 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.080 is pertinent that our people need to know and be 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.039 able to convey messages and give them information that is 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.200 needed to them. So, you know, I look forward to 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.240 this journey. I appreciate you listening to me because I 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.600 had to invite you to do this podcast, but you know, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.560 you came along, and here we. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:48.320 Are that I did. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.599 I came along, and I'm glad you said blog sites 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.599 because we definitely need to make a distinction in what 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:56.600 is media. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:57.120 Right. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.360 So maybe some you can call some stuff news, you 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:06.039 could call some things, you know, information, but media is 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.920 very different from blog sites and we just need to 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.080 also just people need to remember that and sometimes you 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.320 could get the real story from the blog site versus 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.560 going to the news. Sometimes it's vice versa, but it's 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.760 always better to check the resources of people who are 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.120 actually engaged in a situation. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.280 So same thing with Jada Pinkett. You know, you look. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.800 At both the news and the blog sites and all 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.960 the things that they were saying, and then I started 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.360 to get into the book and really listen to interviews 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.840 and I'm like, wow, they're like, none of what is 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.760 being said here in terms of this negative pr that 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.200 was surrounding her, which we've talked about a million times, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.200 was accurate. And now I'm starting to see that. And 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.120 this is why I love Jada so much, because I 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:57.400 was speaking to her frequently leading up to the event 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.680 that she came to that we produced in Atlanta, and 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.440 you know, she was not even talking about She was 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.720 like focused on her tour, focused on getting the things 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.840 that she needs to do, and of course. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:12.520 Taking care of her family. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.560 She's always dealing with the kids, dealing with something that's 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.400 going on, and doing her business. And she was not like, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.040 oh my god, what they say and what do you 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.960 think and blah blah blah. It was me more than 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.600 anything online fighting people posting stuff, because that's what you 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.240 need your friends to do to show up for you 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.120 so you can stay focused on what you have going on. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.920 But now that the tour is happening, more and more 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.960 people are starting I'm seeing it posted in her stories, 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.200 I'm seeing other people writing it. I'm seeing people in 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.880 my comments being like, yo, I've read the book, or 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.760 I'm into you know, I went to an event, i 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.160 heard her speak firsthand, or I read the book and 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.640 what folks is talking about it's just not what it is. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.600 It's just not there. And so I realized, you. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.600 Know, and I think that was her position, is that 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.480 they've been through so many rounds of this where either 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.960 being misunderstood, just being a black woman in general, being 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.920 a black family, being a family that has been sort 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.360 of open in terms of, you know, information that they 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.320 give out to the world. They know that it's going 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.040 to be attacked, people are going to say things. You 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.080 gotta stay focused. And that's the thing is staying focused 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.880 despite all the noise that's going on around us. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:23.439 And that's not. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.000 Really easy, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.520 really easy. Sometimes it's not really easy. I'm not gonna lie, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.040 like sometimes it's hard for me to be like stay focused. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:38.080 But anyway, speaking us staying focused, the attack on Gaza 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:43.240 and the attack on the Palestinian people is still happening. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.080 You know, I was thinking, as I was working on 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.680 what we would talk about today, I was thinking that 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.679 some of my Jewish brothers and sisters, especially the ones 0:09:54.720 --> 0:10:00.480 that are not actively engaged in the social justice movement, 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.840 right because not all of anybody. It's not all black people, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.160 not all Jewish people, not all white people, not all 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:06.760 brown people. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.080 Some people it's just your friend because you just met 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.240 them in passing on the road. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.520 You know, you met them at an event, you may 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.600 have met them, and you know I'm not I am 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.760 not only in movement spaces. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.000 There's other things I do. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.079 I meet people from the strip club to the freaking 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.000 corporate offices, right, so you can meet all different types 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.640 of people. And I've also met some Jewish people who 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.760 I consider to be friends that are not in the 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.280 movement every day marching, protesting or whatever. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.040 They still they do fundamentally. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.360 Believe in the values, because otherwise we wouldn't be friends 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.840 at all. But in this last few weeks they certainly 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:50.679 have been very very conflicted and angry and frustrated and 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.800 concerned and all the things which they should be after 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:00.360 an attack happened on their people, and so they have 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.439 every right to feel that way. And I have sent condolences, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:09.920 had conversations. I've had some tough conversations, and I can 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.760 feel where some people, while they don't want to see 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.640 other people die either, they do feel a strong sense 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:23.000 of a need for retribution. And I think that's like normal, right, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:27.280 Like it's normal that if you're in a family and 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:32.120 one of your kids is killed, you might not want 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.440 to see another child killed, but there is something inside 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.680 of you that kind of says, if something happens to 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.160 either the killer or their friend or family member or something, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.440 there's something deep inside of you that has a sense 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:46.839 of an urge for retribution. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.120 You have to silence that. Like it's where your morality 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:50.760 speaks up. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.520 It's where because I'm not going to sit here and 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.439 say although I did go to court for the men 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.400 who killed my son's father, you know, against them and 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.080 wanted to see them held accountable, and over time I 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.480 stopped investing myself and that we used to write letters 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.400 to try to make sure they didn't get out. You know, 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.680 my son was doing that when he was young, but 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.800 then I was no longer invested in that the more 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.480 that I've engaged in this work, because I understand the 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.480 circumstances of everything at play are larger than a prison 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.160 cell or a prison building can contain, hold. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.560 And or heal. It can't. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.920 It's just it's so much bigger than that, you know, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.840 And so I had to let go of it. But 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.520 there is a sense inside of me that went in 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:38.360 that courtroom and also had conversations with other family members 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.040 on the street, where it feels like retribution is necessary. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.320 Both then your humanity and your morality and all of 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.120 that kicks in. And when it kicks in, you have 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.360 to say to yourself a few questions, I think, and 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.320 you know, of course you can say how you feel. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.120 I think. First question is how do we get here? 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.160 You have to ask that, like you got to start with, 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.240 was my child if we talked about just Ray Ray 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.679 and them in our community, We're not talking about Palestine 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:14.120 for now or Israel. We're talking about just us. If 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:19.160 my child is out terrorizing communities doing wrong, or my brother, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:26.080 my sister whomever, terrorizing people selling drugs or scamming, robbing, killing, shooting, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.760 doing whatever to traumatize communities and other people. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.200 That's the foundation of how we got here. Now, I 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:33.880 could go. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.120 Through, well, his father's dead, or his aunt did this, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:39.920 or he was molested. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.040 Or I could go through or you know, we was 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:41.720 put whatever. 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.199 All those things true, But I still need to go 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.760 at least to a foundational point and figure out what 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.440 about my child has been a part of the center 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.880 of this issue. Foundational, Right, that's the first question. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:56.600 I think. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.199 The next question we have to ask is who is 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.800 the leader that is now dealing with the retribution? 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:04.800 Right? 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.679 Is the retribution being left to individuals who truly have 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:16.800 the best concern for me, for my family or the 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.400 or the accountability. Who's accountability being left in the hands 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.760 of That's the question who. That's a good question to make. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:28.640 Who's accountability being left in the handser? Is it the person? 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.840 Is it a person who cares about both? Is it 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.800 a person who is fair and going to be equitable 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.360 and how they choose to deal with it, or is 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.640 it a person that could care less about my child 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.920 or the other child, or the other family or the 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.240 other side or you know, however, we want to set 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:44.720 it up. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.200 Right, So you got to ask that. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.240 And then the third thing is what is a reasonable response, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.520 And of course an addendum to that is when is 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:54.200 enough enough? 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.400 I think those are fair things? 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.840 What you think I think? I think they're all f 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.880 and things. You know what I want. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.800 What I want to say for me, right is when 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.240 we look at when we look at this situation in totality. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.760 You know, you made a speech, right, and you said 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.400 something and it resonates right now and when you said, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.520 we learn violence from you, right, And if you want 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.280 us to do better, then you got to do better. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.120 And the work that I do with boycott black murder 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.560 and raising kings and stopping violence and violence interrupted in 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:31.239 these communities is what we tell these kids that retribution 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:32.240 is not the answer. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:33.000 Right. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.920 We tell these kids that we're gonna get We're gonna 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.440 get Ray Ray and Jojo one hundred years. If he 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.480 shoot the boy who shot his brother, right, he gonna 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.360 get a hundred years. They gonna call him a thug, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.560 They ca him the worst person in the world. So 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.000 for you to expect me to do this work as 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.800 a man and go into these communities and talk to 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.640 these kids and stop them from shooting up and retaliating 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.320 against people that shot them, and people who've done that, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.320 and then America is saying that, you know what, We're 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.640 going to fund someone to not only just shoot the 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.200 people who shot them, but shoot anybody around them. But 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:12.239 this kids, grandmother's dogs or anything. It's not it's not realistic, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.240 it's not balance. It doesn't even make sense. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:15.480 You. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.440 I can't even have that conversation if I don't tell 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.200 you that you are wrong, right, if we're not calling 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.200 out our own government that tells us that you know 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.560 that violence in the communities is wrong. And they talk 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.320 about how all of the ship that's going on, They 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.040 point to Chicago and said, it's a big problem, but 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.760 we're willing to give billions and millions of dollars to 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.320 other countries to fund their violence, right, not not even 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:37.720 the fund. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.520 Because they say that you have a you have the 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.960 right to defend yourself, right defense? What is what do 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.920 they call defense? Right? What do we call the defense? 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.560 If we call the defense that. 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.840 If you shoot me and I get away, I have 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.520 the right to go and shoot and kill your whole 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.160 family and the family of the family and the people 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.840 that live next door, right. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.640 It's what are we actually saying? You know? 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.320 So, I think for me it's it's it's a morality thing. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.240 It's an understanding. Even if even if we're not even 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.600 talking about the whole the whole conflict and where it 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.760 started and where even if we if we just ignore 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.040 those things, if we're not if we just we just 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:23.440 novice to this situation. We come seeing dead babies every day, right, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:29.960 seeing school's bombs, seeing hospitals bombs. My morality kicks in, right, 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.200 My morality kicks in and says to me that it's 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.760 just not right. And I wouldn't want that even if 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.680 if somebody, if I, if my one of my brothers died, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.439 I will not want to see the family and the 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.640 whole family of the person who killed my brother die. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.399 I wouldn't want to see the kids babies die because 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.960 I don't hold I do not hold those kids responsible 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.119 for that right. So we have to we have to 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.879 speak realistically. We got to have real conversations. You know, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:59.200 and and and I don't understand how like I understand 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.119 how you know, I understand the retribution, understand and and 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.200 even I understand that understand the human nature of retribution. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.720 I understand the human nature of self defense. And under 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.200 the eye for an eye two for too, for understanding. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.040 But you can't have an eye for two bodies, right, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.879 You can't have an eye for a whole family, right, 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.320 because it's supposed to be an eye for us. So 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.199 when we when we, when we really sitting down, the 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:28.000 morality of any person of h with humanitarian causes and 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.480 understanding should look and say, serve shit just ain't okay, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.199 you know, And me, my my morality just won't. It 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.240 just won't allow me to do that. It wonn't allow 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.359 me to do it for my own you know. So 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.320 I so I have to I have to tell people 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.000 you have to look deep. You gotta look deep into yourself. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.160 If you look at the situation that as what's going 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.720 on in Gaza, and you and you find that the 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.679 thousands of babies that are dying and justifying, right, that 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.000 you find that blowing up schools and blowing up. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.600 Hospitals and and and pretty much. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:05.680 And refugee camps, if you think that it is justified 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.560 because of what happened on October seventh, which was a 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.960 horrible situation and right, and there should be people held 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.600 accountable for that. But you if you think a whole 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.440 race and a whole nation and people should be held 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.359 accountable and wiped out for that situation. Then that's something 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.640 that you have to deal with personally. And I think 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.679 the world is speaking of I think when you have 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:33.240 three hundred thousand people go to Washington, DC of all nationalities, Jewish, Black, White, Asian, 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.639 every nationality. I watched the old lady on the internet 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.080 yesterday who said that she was she had a sign 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.400 and she said, I'm a Jewish woman, and in fact, 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.280 she said, anti anti Semitic to me is the fact 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.960 that you would believe that all Jewish people, or even 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:54.120 most Jewish people support killing innocent Palestinian babies. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.720 That's anti semitic to her. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.040 She said, I will not stop, I will not take 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.840 my sign off, I will not support Israel. I will 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.640 not allow you to do this in the name of us. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.960 So I think it's more it's a morality thing. It's 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.640 not because when we when we look at Black Lives Matter, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.240 and we looked at George Floyd, the street there was 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.160 you you probably would find one person that was black. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:15.960 They're probably like, you know, they shouldn't be out there 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:16.760 doing that. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.119 And there might have been Kandace Ois Candice Owis and 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.080 Kanye might have been the only people that said some 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.120 dumb shit, but for the most part. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.480 The rest of the world was like, Nah, that shit 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:27.119 ain't okay. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.000 That's that's that's against us, that's and and so what 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.800 I'm trying to say is we we understand the morality 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.800 is something that when we look at it, the totality 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.359 and totality, it's a moral issue. And even though it 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.800 might have been a black person that died, but the 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.159