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Speaker 1: Welcome to my show where I'm the big star Hollywood Handbook.

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Speaker 2: This is the show where hey is this famous that

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Speaker 2: We have a real guest. We have a serious guest.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Orange is here, famous author oh Bibleleggs's book. He's

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Speaker 2: doing all kinds of things. Tommy, thank you for being

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Speaker 3: Hello, Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Stop stop before you go any further. I just want

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Speaker 1: Tommy Orange, Yes, Tommy Orange's new novel really is that good?

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Speaker 1: You remember that it really is? Comb Toben he said that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Who's in the newspaper, toybin colemb toyban.

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Speaker 1: First of all? Perfectly interesting to me? But it's not.

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Speaker 2: But the Hayes wears their shirt a lot. Yeah, got

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it's nice to know that the novel

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Speaker 3: I'm the only one that can do my books.

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Speaker 2: This first idea, Tommy, I'm bumping this one to the

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Speaker 1: You're college boy, right.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really intriguing this downstairs bathroom part and

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Speaker 3: I'm really curious about.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to follow them these two elements they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going to hear from them again.

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Speaker 4: The fact that everyone's weirded out about the downstairs bathroom

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Speaker 1: That they're weirded out, they've just never heard of.

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Speaker 2: They're not aware of it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: People because everyone only knows about upstairs bathrooms.

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Speaker 3: You heard of a Pittsburgh toilet?

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Speaker 2: Oh God, this is gonna be some Actually we could

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Speaker 2: use this in Princes of Rides. Maybe he's the guy

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Speaker 4: It's some kind of toilet in the basement of a

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean we've got all these like

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Speaker 2: you know, after he doesn't get a text back and

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Speaker 1: Hugs you probably probably won't use it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to use it, Tommy. Thank

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Speaker 2: I was worried that, uh, Prince of Rides might be

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Speaker 1: Fucking kicks ass right. It's so amazing, fucking bomb going off.

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Speaker 1: You can fucking feel it like this. This is the

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Speaker 2: They started with that, they burned that. It's like it's

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Speaker 2: Thank you for giving those props, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: just saying that, not saying shut up. Well, maybe you'll

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Speaker 2: brought it up because I didn't know what that was,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's perfect for this. This book is

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Speaker 2: called The Ringer. Justin Ringo is a culture columnist for

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Speaker 2: the Eringer dot com. After a full day of ranking

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Speaker 2: so he delays his perfect proposal and resorts to constantly

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Speaker 2: having an affair. Wow, I mean, is that powerful, mister books.

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Speaker 3: I really love that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who you love that that happened to have.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who calls somebody who is looking for

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Speaker 1: The Ringer, The Ringer.

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Speaker 2: Well, he works at the ringer dot.

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Speaker 1: Com and his name is Justin Ringo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a ring's happening, but I don't know that it

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Speaker 2: To And he also he played d one ball and

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Speaker 2: And his name's Justin Ringo and he works for the

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so I guess I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: fuck you're bump was just on the title like and

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Speaker 2: to be a good title uh uh, I got it.

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Speaker 1: Starts with th R. This guy is trying to clear

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Speaker 1: space on the fucking shelf. He doesn't like this guy.

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Speaker 1: We heard, we heard he's protective of the title.

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Speaker 2: He knew he doesn't want us that close.

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Speaker 1: He says, this is get over there with the w

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Speaker 1: users on them bit.

439
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: This book's gonna push my book down a shelf. Buddy,

440
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: it's over. Man, you had a hell of a run.

441
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: Fuck hey you me man, I bought the fucking thing.

442
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: I read it.

443
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: You know. I good Adia, you got my ass man, God.

444
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: Bless got Obama. But now.

445
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: It's time to move on. The Ringer is not competing

446
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: with they're there. I guess that has totally different story.

447
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 4: I have a more technical question, how do you because

448
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: the pipes and the flushing and the poop goes away,

449
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 4: how is he getting how is he capturing the poop

450
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: to look through it?

451
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: For rings, it's Pittsburgh toilet. So he gets right into

452
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: the pipe. So every time he hears a flush, he goes, oh, babe,

453
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: I really got to get in there. I don't know

454
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: what's going on for me. Lately, he goes running in

455
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: right behind her, starts undoing the pipes, goes you know,

456
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: goes rooting around through it, and we talk about it

457
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: in a very like classy way, like we don't have

458
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: to get yucky with it at all, and we say, like,

459
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: it's not yucky. Her diet's really good. And and then

460
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: as he's going through everything, you know, he's going. I

461
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: gotta find an engagement, and I gotta find sees the

462
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: glint of a diamond, pulls it out. It's a different

463
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: engagement ring. Now she was proposed to by someone else

464
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: who also put it in her favorite dessert.

465
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: That's why.

466
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: That's why the waiter was acting so weird, right because

467
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: he had seen it happen the other day that.

468
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: She didn't realize either time. She didn't realize this she swallowed.

469
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: She loves this, she loves this boudino. She loves this

470
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: delectable boudino. Mister books, and she doesn't even use a spoon.

471
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: And you knows who the other man? Do you know

472
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: who the other man was? Ring Wardner Junior?

473
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: But wait, why is it called the ringer? That's you?

474
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: But wait, how would that even?

475
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: But that's not.

476
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: The that's you, unfortunately for both of us. So it's

477
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: just an idea. We don't have to do it. And

478
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: by the way, this guy could be the Prince of Rides.

479
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: I waited until everyone at college was asleep. I quietly

480
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: opened my door and looked out in the hallway. The

481
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: coast was clear. I made sure to not let the

482
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: door close too loudly, so I wouldn't wake anyone up.

483
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: I tiptoed down the hallway, careful that the sounds of

484
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: my footsteps didn't make too much noise. I tried to

485
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: control the motion of my pants and shirt so that

486
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: nobody would hear their rustling. Just then, a door opened.

487
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: Somebody poked their head out the door. It was the ra.

488
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: What are you doing out here? They said? I realized

489
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: I was nervous, so the verbal noises and sounds I

490
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: was making in the hallway had been loud. I was

491
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: hooting and hollering uncontrollably and saying gad zookes. Then the

492
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: Ra noticed it was me. I had announced my entire

493
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: plan to him for days in advance, in case of

494
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: exactly this situation. He shut the door and I continued

495
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: my journey.

496
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: Wow, so pretty powerful stuff, Huh.

497
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Scary for a moment there, right.

498
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: When the hara comes out, You know, I'm getting ready

499
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: to close the book like I'm I'm reading it, like

500
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: just peeking at the pages inside like this, because I

501
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: have to be ready at a moment's notice to completely

502
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: shut the book in case the jig is up?

503
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: Are we thinking this is a Prince of Rides flashback

504
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: and some and we there's there's sort of attension created

505
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: and knowing that something maybe didn't go right at college

506
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: and that's how he ended up a limo driver as

507
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: opposed to you know, maybe a better job's.

508
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: Not really it's not an anti limo driver book like

509
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: that wasn't really or or podcasts.

510
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I know you're a college boy,

511
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: but like that's actually a fine job, first of all,

512
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: and also they don't make you like it does have

513
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: no impact on your grades. You go to the bathroom,

514
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: you could.

515
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: Use the bathroom every day. You could never use the

516
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: bathroom in your dorms, and your professors are not allowed

517
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: to change your grade based on that. I've checked. So

518
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: I guess you know what I thought was so and

519
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: you didn't really notice this. I guess what was so creative.

520
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: And the way we kind of played with time here

521
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: is we've been with this character a lot. They had

522
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: butterflies flying around in their chest. You know, we've been

523
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: inside their head.

524
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: But we.

525
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: Carefully emitted the scenes where they went to the ra

526
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: to describe their plan, which happened multiple times in the

527
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: days leading up to the event. And then when you

528
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: get to this moment where they're almost caught, you know,

529
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: they're almost busted by the RA. There're gonna be in trouble.

530
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean they're saying kad zooks in the hallway that

531
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: can affect your grades. M h. So there are about

532
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: to be busted. And then we sort of fill in

533
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: the background. It's sort of this like flashback where it's like, oh,

534
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: every time in the previous chapters when the character said

535
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the bathroom, walk downstairs and

536
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: came back up without going to the bathroom, they were

537
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: going to the ra's room which is next to the

538
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: bathroom and saying, hey, I'm gonna do this later. And

539
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: then you go, oh, that's what was going on. So

540
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: this thing that seemed like a mistake or confusing now

541
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: has become.

542
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: A Swiss watch.

543
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: Oh, these guys are like brainiacs. It's like Ocean's eleven

544
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: or something.

545
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: They know the whole time that that that's that they

546
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: were doing that, or yeah.

547
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: We did meant a downstairs bathroom in any way.

548
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: It just I mean, it just demonstrates to me a

549
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: total lack of like paying attention, like just a total

550
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: inability to listen to anyone but yourself. I guess it's

551
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: technically sure, fine, it's a it's a it's a third

552
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: floor bathroom. The dorm is on the third floor, so

553
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: depending on what floor you are on, it could be

554
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: a downstairs bathroom.

555
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, and the character lives on the fourth floor.

556
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: And by the way, our original title for this, just

557
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: so you know, which we've generously changed, was there there

558
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: and it was the character, you know, finally in the

559
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: bathroom spoiler alert, going like where do I go? Like,

560
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: which is it one of these stall thingies like do

561
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: I go there? Do I go there? And we were

562
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 2: told that obviously we would not be allowed to do that.

563
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: So that's why we thought, well, let's let Tommy.

564
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: In one of his famous hissy fits.

565
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's gonna have another tantrum.

566
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: One of his legendary try County fits.

567
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: I would prefer there or not to be thhr you know,

568
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: especially the beginning whatever you guys end.

569
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: Up betting anywhere towards the beginning of the book, you

570
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: just clear, we've.

571
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Got to get those letters out of.

572
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: The beginning of the book.

573
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: So it's so it's out of the title that's gone,

574
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: and now we have to comb through the first several chapters.

575
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: That's fine to take out some of our most favorite

576
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: letters to you.

577
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: We can do that. We actually have multiple tools in

578
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: our toolbox and so like we that that's actually not

579
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: an issue for us.

580
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: No, we'll figure it out. But it's just it's a

581
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: lot of work.

582
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: Losing that butterfly line is going to be rough. You

583
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: need the T and the R and now and.

584
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I guess it can't be moths.

585
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Hmm. Yeah, And that's got th h in it? Just bugs?

586
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Is it just bugs?

587
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Birds and bugs?

588
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: Birds and bugs are doing the birds and bugs were

589
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: flying around.

590
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: That's only birds and bees.

591
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: I have one more book idea, and I think I've

592
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: actually identified your issue with some of the other ones,

593
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: and it's that they dealt a little too much, maybe

594
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: with romance and human emotions and being aware of people

595
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: other than yourself and kind of getting outside and of magic,

596
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: putting yourself in the shoes of someone else who has

597
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: like a really challenge, you know, challenging difficult time dating

598
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: because they're so good at sex, or someone who learns

599
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: that they are being betrayed by you know, uh.

600
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: They're the closing partituting.

601
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: So I think that didn't connect to you. And this

602
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 2: might be more your speed. This one is called the

603
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: Munchie Games. It's the Hunger Games on fucking weed, dude.

604
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: It's they're smoking that funny stuff man, the Ganja hype

605
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: biz burning. They're doing Hunger Games, but they keep forgetting

606
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 2: the rules and shit, and they're being way funnier. So

607
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean this to me, and I think we can

608
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of fun with the names, where like

609
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Catnus was like the main girl, but maybe the name

610
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: is like weedness, you know, something that really gets you,

611
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: like right in the funny bone, right off the rip,

612
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: by the way, right off the bong rip, I should

613
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: have said, And I think this could maybe connect to

614
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: you a little more. You're obviously high as shit right now.

615
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: The way you're acting is totally goofy and insane. It

616
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: can't be justified any other way. And so is this

617
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: finally something that you will fully get on board for.

618
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: Let's let's hear it.

619
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: That's it, you did, just hear it. It was called

620
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: the munch Games. It was the Hunger Games on fucking weed. Dogs.

621
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: I thought we were gonna get some element of story.

622
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: It's just the same thing.

623
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: But dude, yeah, I mean, like the spine of the

624
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: story is there. But imagine if imagine if when they

625
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: were doing the Hungry Games, instead of all being all uptight,

626
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: they were uh a puffing on the chiba, you know

627
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: what I mean, they had a little bit of the

628
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: green stuff. You know, maybe instead of all being like, hey,

629
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna kill that guy, they would have been like, Hey, man,

630
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: come on, dude, stop doing hungry games on my ass.

631
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: Hey can we eat any of this leaves?

632
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: Dude?

633
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: You know, And it wouldn't have been like so fucking

634
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: intense because the way I read that book, by the way,

635
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: they're all trying to kill you all the time. I

636
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm peaking at it. I got just the teensiest slipper

637
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: of a page, and every time I finish, like basically

638
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: an he said to it all, I'm like, I shouldn't

639
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: have read that.

640
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you could have a whole genre

641
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: of like sort of remakes with wordplay for the weird thing.

642
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: I think that's probably something you can do.

643
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: What's another What's what's like? What's another one?

644
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: I know, if we're going to the dystopian shan Well,

645
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: Harry Potter feels like there's like a pothead thing we

646
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: could probably easily do.

647
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really fairing good. I guess he's right, that's awesome.

648
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

649
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: That's so fucking so I'm attached to the Ringer now

650
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: now that we have gone that down there, and how.

651
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: Well, what if that? You know, what if that? So?

652
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: What if? That's the opening is sort of the excerpt

653
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: we have from the Ringer. And then he gets like

654
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: summon and to the fucking division thingy and volunteers his

655
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: tribute or whatever because he's so upset that his girlfriend

656
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: is stepping out on him. Uh. And then it's just

657
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: like doesn't care if he lives or dies. But then

658
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: throughout the course of the Munchy Games realized that it

659
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: was like all a misunderstanding and that it was just

660
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: a friendship ring that he found from ring Larder Junior,

661
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: and now like has to win in order to get

662
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: back to his one true love. Uh, and that would

663
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: be like, I guess then she's weadness. I don't know,

664
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: somebody's weadness.

665
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: And ultimately, whatever the monkeys he ends up eating, we

666
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: could you know, sort of loop back to the toilet

667
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 4: and there could be some conflict we could find there,

668
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: whether it's downstairs, or you don't.

669
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of had enough of the toilet

670
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: stuff at this point. I know you really liked it.

671
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: I tried to cater to that as much as I could.

672
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: We're going to use that, but not for this anyway.

673
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: I probably not go back there at this point, especially

674
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: because we have so much of the Prince of Ryde's

675
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: backstory is about trying to use the bathroom. It just

676
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: feels it's a ton of issue for me. I want

677
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: to be able to do more than one thing, which

678
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: is in this case toilet stories. I don't think much

679
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: of games needs it.

680
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: Well, we did feel heavily tied to the college experience.

681
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: And I had finally made it. I was inside the bathroom.

682
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: The special move I did to get through the door

683
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: had hurt my legs so badly. I had to lie

684
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: on the ground for a really long time. I was

685
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: underneath the hand dryer, which was motion detecting my head

686
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: and blasting me. The air dryer was making my head

687
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: burn up, but I couldn't move because the move had

688
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: given me a severe leg injury and basically exploded part

689
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: of my leg. So the air drier kept blasting my head.

690
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: And burning it up. Somebody passed me outside the bathroom door,

691
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: which I had propped open with a gigantic table. Hey,

692
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: he said, dry head. So it's a little something about

693
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: like there are actually good people in the world, you.

694
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, just that one moment of kindness, you know,

695
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: that like ray of hope and what otherwise pretty bleak landscape.

696
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: We had the one person that freaked out on them, obviously,

697
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: the villain who we don't want to give a lot

698
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: of oxygen to, despite your notes. And then we also

699
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: have I just people who didn't weren't really familiar with

700
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: the downstairs bathroom. But now this person who we could

701
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: follow or not, you know, is actually trying to kind

702
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: of make lemonade out of lemons and say, hey, dry head, I.

703
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: Do see how you're moving away from towards at the

704
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: end here. You know, it's much much more based on it.

705
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: So it's not the only thing in a bathroom, Tommy.

706
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: It was the big moment I had wedged myself under

707
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: the bathroom stall. Somebody had thrown out a lariat in

708
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: the bathroom trash that I was able to use to

709
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: lassue the door of the stall and pull myself across

710
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: the wet floor. My now useless leg was stretched out

711
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: behind me, so now my foot was under the air dryer,

712
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: triggering the motion detector, so it was burning my shoe

713
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: and my leg. I couldn't believe how hot my shoe

714
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: had become in just one year of college.

715
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 4: I'm a little logistically just how close if he's lying

716
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 4: on the floor, could he be to the air dryer

717
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: where there's burning happening.

718
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: He's close enough that his foot is directly underneath that.

719
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: Just to paint the sort of picture for you, Is

720
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: he really long?

721
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: Is he tall? Is it a small bathroom?

722
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: This college boy went to one of these big ass

723
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: bathroom college. Yeah.

724
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: Right, college boy was at a college with bathrooms so

725
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: big he couldn't even see the fucking air dryer from

726
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: where he was under the stall. Unbelievable, the level of privilege,

727
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: You know what, forget about that part of it. Really,

728
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: what I wanted your notes on was just the lariat,

729
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: which we've been told by our editor needs. They're fine

730
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: with it, it needs a little bit of bolstering.

731
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I think it was implausible that somebody threw out a

732
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: whole lariat.

733
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: And threw it out and that it was functional. If

734
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: they had thrown it out. It should be somehow flawed.

735
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: It shouldn't, you know, allow them to haul their way in.

736
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: I had suggested, perhaps there is a student at the

737
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: college named Lariot the Spy who you know, sort of

738
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: sneaks around into the various buildings and always uses a

739
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: lariat to get in and out of the windows, and

740
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: never uses the same lariat twice, which you know, I'm

741
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: comfortable exploring that and kind of building that up. But

742
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: if there's a cleaner path to it that doesn't require

743
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: an additional two to six hundred pages, which I think

744
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: is what it would take to really service the Lariot

745
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: the Spy idea, We're open to it, and we would

746
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: hear from it. And just this time, I know you

747
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: haven't actually said shut up, but sometimes the way you

748
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: say what you think about, uh, the ideas we have,

749
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: there's sort of this silent shut up there that I'd

750
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: like to lose if possible.

751
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: That is why I was asking originally, But I don't

752
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: mean that when I'm with it right, and I've never

753
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: heard of it. I don't even know what a Laryat is.

754
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: I don't know how much it's adding to the story.

755
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: Oh, it's adding the physical means by which our primary character.

756
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: Is accomplishes his only goal of the entire book.

757
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: Mmm, it's related to the toilet and getting there.

758
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: I guess you could say it's related to it. I mean,

759
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: it is it That is the entire thing.

760
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: It's so it's more in the flashback, in the college

761
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: experience in this bathroom.

762
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: It's really kind of the climax moment.

763
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: You know. Amazingly, I've underestimated just how high you are.

764
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: Like I knew that you had blazed up to get

765
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: ready for this, and we could actually hear the bubbler

766
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: that you were firing, and it sounded like you got

767
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: some pretty premium stuff in there. But I still thought,

768
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: I guess, because you're mister books, that you would be

769
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: able to follow a couple of sentences of text read

770
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: expertly by Hayes. I mean, I was in there, Jesus

771
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: Christ man, I'm looking at my zoom window like this,

772
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: like I might have to dump on this thing in

773
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: a second, because when they, you know, with that shoes

774
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: getting hot, I'm like, Jesus gonna be okay, I'm scared, man. So, uh,

775
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's just like it's funny how our experiences

776
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: are different because I think it's so clear what's happening,

777
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: and I think it's so intense and touching and sort

778
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 2: of beautiful, and then you have these questions that feel

779
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: clinical and stupid and bad, and it makes it it

780
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: makes it hard to engage at all.

781
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: Can you guys explain on to Larry? It is for

782
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: those that out there who don't know what it is either?

783
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Do you wonder? Women not?

784
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: I saw the first one at the nineteen eighty four one.

785
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Wow, very supportive.

786
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: Wow? Uh sometimes I support women? Yeah, No, I think.

787
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: For you, I first kind of like you, kind of

788
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: like the other, like the old way they were doing things.

789
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should get a taste, but not too much.

790
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: No wonder he didn't understand Prince of rides this guy

791
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: getting them off four or five times, so you know.

792
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: But you know, the first one is kind of all

793
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: you need another word for a lariat. And now it's

794
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: all going to come together for you. I think is

795
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: a last sue.

796
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: In her lariat. When she would last sue you, you

797
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: would have to tell the truth.

798
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: Let me find a let me find a.

799
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: Movie with what I do to myself Every time I'm

800
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: about to write a great novel. I use Wonder Woman's

801
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Golden lass sue on myself, and I swear the most

802
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: truest words.

803
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: I swear that the page will be filled to the

804
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: brim with nothing but pure truth. Speaking of pure truth,

805
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: let me mention a movie with a last sue slash

806
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: Larry in it that I'm sure you did see and

807
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: you could picture it this way, City slickers, no one,

808
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: no women there. You know, it's just a bunch of

809
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: dudes on the dude ranch to take all my money.

810
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: Please.

811
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: Wait, you didn't see the Curlyes gold one.

812
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: I only saw the Curlyes gold one. You unbelievable. Wait,

813
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: So he way the lariat and that's somehow.

814
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: Also how he gets into the toilet stall.

815
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: He uses the lariat to last sue the door of

816
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: the stall, drag himself across the wet floor.

817
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: His leg is injured from the special move that he

818
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: did to get into the root.

819
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: Of his leg exploded, and he's going to pull himself

820
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: up onto theile using the laryers.

821
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: Well, let's see, Well, let's see.

822
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: Why don't we find out?

823
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: There was no getting around it. I was completely inside

824
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the toilet. I had pulled too hard on the lariat

825
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: and was flung into the stall and ended up nestled

826
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: inside the toilet. My leg was now so injured, big

827
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: pieces of it were not even in the room anymore.

828
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: Worst yet, the lariat was caught on the toilet handle,

829
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: so every time I tried to move, I would flush

830
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: myself even farther inside the toilet. After all that work,

831
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: I realized I didn't even have to go to the

832
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: bathroom anymore. There was no getting around it. The downstairs

833
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: bathroom didn't work like this at all. And that's where

834
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: we are. That's where here's Tommy's first question. Was there

835
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: any getting around it? That's that's hute it was for you.

836
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: I thought, do I have to go back to this

837
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: a second time? You have Tommy's reading with some.

838
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: Might have to the fucking Munchie games.

839
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: I got so hurt it was. It left the room.

840
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: Big pieces of it. We're not even in the room anymore.

841
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how injured it is.

842
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: It like exploded out and maybe did a special move

843
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: to leave the room itself.

844
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: No, it was a special move that led to exploded

845
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: in the first place.

846
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: Which then basically, if you think about the amount of

847
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: force it would take to pull yourself onto a toilet

848
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: when the lariat has only you know, looped around the handle,

849
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: And how hard you would be pulling with a leg injury,

850
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: with like exposed tendon and bone. Yeah, like a ligament's

851
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 2: probably gonna shoot off and shoot out the door into

852
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: the hallway when you're pulling that hard, just from the

853
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: strain of it. And then yeah, that's gonna be pretty surprising,

854
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: make you turn, lose your focus and probably go up

855
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: and land inside the toilet bowl, then flush yourself down

856
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: over and over again when you try to pull out.

857
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: I find myself going back to a head.

858
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Guy, the dry had guy. Yeah, you really want to

859
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: keep following him? Huh?

860
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: I want to know why somebody would think that that's

861
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: what he was doing. And also is it a supportive statement.

862
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: It's definitely supportive. Yes, yeah, it's sort.

863
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Of the opposite of what you've been doing the whole time. Well,

864
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: what he does is sees something someone else is doing

865
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: and tries to get on board to be possive.

866
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes all it takes, and this is for some other

867
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: guests than our past too. Sometimes nice thing to do

868
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: is just to come on the show and say hey,

869
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: nice podcast, Yeah, and just fucking keep walking.

870
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: That's all? Is that so hard? Hey? Man, nice podcast,

871
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: you got there. You've done all right for yourself. That

872
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: feels good. But uh yeah, but anyway, your thing is

873
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: what the dry headed guy you think he's like being

874
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: mean or something.

875
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're making fun of him, Like you're

876
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: standing under the thing with your head under it, and

877
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: that's your comment.

878
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're bringing that to it. Yeah, well so what's

879
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: your pitch? So let's change that line. Now, let's do

880
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: Tommy's version. Hey, you're standing under that thing and you're

881
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: lying down. First of all, Hey, you're standing under that

882
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: thing with your head under.

883
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: This college boy and his big ass, like high ceiling

884
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: bathrooms where you don't have to lie down under the

885
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: under the hand dryer, unbelievable.

886
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: Must be nice getting on a stepstool to dry your hands.

887
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: Fucking college boy, Bud.

888
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 3: I prefer mister books.

889
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: What's the line? What line do you want for that

890
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: one scene?

891
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: So?

892
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Hey, hey is in there? Hey, we can't change. So

893
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: he walks past the bathroom.

894
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: Hey, had enough for you.

895
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Goodbye,