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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. The Worlds of Vegetal podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: We might have taken the best quarterback out of the

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Speaker 2: bunch a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: Paul, you're not telling me things that I haven't said

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Speaker 3: in the past.

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Speaker 4: You have all these different elements. You know, they're running

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Speaker 4: like they ran counter bash in this.

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Speaker 1: Game, which I say, you're gonna drop a counter back.

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Speaker 4: They were not running counter bash in twenty eighteen with

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady, Like that's not that's not that elements of

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Speaker 4: the offense they.

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Speaker 3: Ran some counters in some bashes, but they didn't run

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Speaker 3: any counter bash.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Like Kyle Williams is not gonna he's not going

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Speaker 4: to be digging out the nickel.

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Speaker 3: Paul, power power what do you call me? Power slots?

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Speaker 4: Power slot? Yeah, he was. He was a little bit

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Speaker 4: more of that.

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Speaker 3: And he has a name for every power spots.

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Speaker 2: Power Freshing was the theme this offense set up and

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Speaker 2: play very was very refreshing.

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Speaker 3: I think I needed a Shower.

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Speaker 2: Evan impersonation to set the scene. The Patriots are in

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Speaker 2: fifty four personnel, five running backs, four.

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Speaker 4: Tight ends doesn't even exist.

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Speaker 2: Kyle william eves in motion and effectively acts as the

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Speaker 2: backside sniffer.

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Speaker 4: It's not the right thing.

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Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Less Stadium, and uh boy, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: we're gonna uh do this show on the heels of

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Speaker 2: that Catch twenty two episode.

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Speaker 1: They were going hard.

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Speaker 2: It was some epic episode you had there. I had

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Speaker 2: to take every power.

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Speaker 1: You look tired.

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Speaker 2: I'm just.

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Speaker 4: I really just kind of that was like I played

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Speaker 4: in the game, you know. Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 2: God all right, but well, we're gonna try. It's Evan,

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Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's Alex and Matt

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Speaker 2: and the booth. And it's turned the page day here

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Speaker 2: at Patriots Unfiltered. So we're gonna be turning mostly our

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Speaker 2: attention to the Buffalo Bills Sunday night matchup. Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: We'll have Mike Rabel At about twelve fifty five. It

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Speaker 2: has become the Wednesday. Custom Yep. Here, there's always something

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Speaker 2: that comes out of that. So definitely worth going to live.

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Speaker 2: So we'll do that when he's ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, like, what do we got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of breaking news right now?

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Speaker 5: Marcus Jones has won the AFC Special Teams Player of

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Speaker 5: the Week. This is the second time in four weeks

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Speaker 5: the Patriots have won that award, with time in three

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Speaker 5: weeks time three weeks with Antonio Gibson winning it down

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Speaker 5: there in Miami for his kickoff return.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations to Marcus Jones for this big day.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Springer up for a raise, Well, I don't know

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Speaker 2: about that, Okay, Well, but let's see how it looks

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Speaker 2: in December.

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Speaker 3: First, Okay, can go a game without two penalties?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, but no, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Look, they're a little bit up and down, but overall

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Speaker 5: I think they've been they've been pretty good, and they've

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Speaker 3: Lift from the return.

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Speaker 5: I I'd like to see borog Alice, you know, continue

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Speaker 5: to make his kicks and he'll be challenged this week

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Speaker 5: up in Buffalo for him, probably a little bit of yeah, check.

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Speaker 1: The weather, yeah, check the weather real quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's but the weather is for Sunday night. Orchard Park. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got you, yeah, because you got the it's coming

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Speaker 1: off the lake right.

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Speaker 2: Well, so is Buffalo, but it's a little bit for

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Speaker 2: I think Orchard Park's a little bit further in.

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Speaker 3: Oh bright, no getting lake effects, no worries.

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous, gorgeous, just you know.

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Speaker 4: Their new stadium is not going to have They're actually

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Speaker 3: The heat benches on the sideline were blowing onto the game.

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Speaker 4: No, it was that was devastating lead bad weather.

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Speaker 2: Yep, so yep. A lot of miss kicks in Buffalo

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think Josh Allen is putting together another

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Speaker 4: Which they had fourteen to nothing lead in that gay yah.

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Speaker 5: So you've already played there when it's freezing and tough conditions.

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Speaker 1: There was you know, Romandre fumble.

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Speaker 5: three and eleven Patriots. It was the eleven and three

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Speaker 5: Bills versus three and eleven Patriots, and Patriots came out

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Speaker 5: They just kept chipping it away. James Cook had a

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the last couple of years, like these games.

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Speaker 3: This is I was reading Mike Giardi today on the

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving in Minnesota. That was it twenty two? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: when they Henry Yes, yeah, the contested touchdown that the

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 5: That makes me feel better because that's exactly the thought

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Speaker 5: Paul Perillo territory? I like, you won't ask me about

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Speaker 5: that three AFC championship against the Colts, Like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Again? What happened?

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Speaker 5: But they're doing me right the struggles though, but right

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think positive which are much different

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's part of the reason why we

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Speaker 3: have a hard time is because they just they're all

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Speaker 3: so irrelevant, right, you know, when you go four and

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Speaker 3: thirteen consecutive seasons. None of the games were really you

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Speaker 2: Yeap, So what do we want to tackle?

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Speaker 5: Uh, like James Cook, because you can't tackle those guys.

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Speaker 3: there's been some some talk like they're two and two

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Speaker 3: lower tier, you know, closer to one of the middle tiers. Right,

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Speaker 3: So you have an opportunity in the National Spotlight Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: and I know Mike Rabel's really excited about it. You

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Speaker 3: This is an opportunity to sort of take a step forward.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to be in the playoff chase,

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Speaker 3: these are the kinds of games that you you need

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Speaker 3: to win. These are the kinds of games you need

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Speaker 3: They got to tackle an opportunity to say we're going

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Speaker 3: to be one of those teams, not one of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to ask you guys about you know,

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Speaker 4: and they didn't win. They really like kind of backdoored

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Speaker 2: So from a physicality standpoint, they definitely won that game.

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Speaker 4: Everybody kind of knows that. But that game was a

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Speaker 2: So I remember, I don't know how many years it

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Speaker 1: Look closer than you know.

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Speaker 5: It's like Paul always says, you got to see it,

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Speaker 5: I think that they have been you know, they're aware

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Speaker 3: So I think that that does give you confidence. And

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Speaker 2: Yah, it's not enough.

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Speaker 3: You know, one thing is remembered so fondly because they

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the Patriots need to do the same thing in

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Speaker 2: And you know when we talk about moral victory and

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Speaker 2: And I think if we have that moral victory against

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Speaker 2: We could have won that game. I can't wait till

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I almost felt like that in this last game, even

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Speaker 5: the next week, you know, like just keep saying some

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Speaker 1: It for the Bills.

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Speaker 5: But it's a it's a big challenge, and I you

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Sure, it's certainly not the It's not quite as overwhelming

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Speaker 4: And we were talking about this on catch twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Like he's not pushing it into windows. He shouldn't push

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Speaker 2: So whatever the game plan is on defense this year

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Speaker 4: Probably it's probably collaboratory.

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Speaker 2: You know who says, you know what, we're going to

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Speaker 4: Well, I think like you know, Scott Booker and Rabel

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Speaker 5: And so it's like a collaborative who overall says this

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Speaker 1: Put these blitzes in. You know, we got them with

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Speaker 1: All right, my impression of it. But okay, yeah, just

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Speaker 6: Yes, they have been.

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Speaker 2: If I'm vayble, I'm saying to my team defensively, we're

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Speaker 3: back in coverage. It's not necessarily you don't have to

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Speaker 3: back off, like you can be more aggressive in your coverage,

445
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Speaker 3: Like I think what Evan's saying about giving them a

446
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 3: little too much respect might be accurate, but some of

447
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 3: these teams might not be able to get the pressure

448
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: with four by playing with coverage. I think the Patriots

449
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 3: have shown at times, not consistently, but at times they

450
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Speaker 3: can get pressure with four. Yeah, but so can you

451
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Speaker 3: do that? That to me is very aggressive If you

452
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Speaker 3: can get after Josh Allen. Some teams don't.

453
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Speaker 2: But see, I'm not just talking about when he drops back.

454
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about loading the box early and trying to

455
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Speaker 2: stop Cooks early and relying on single coverage behind that.

456
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't like that putting an extra guy

457
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Speaker 2: up there and saying we're going to try to force

458
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Speaker 2: you into third and long.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Fred, like, I don't like that. No,

460
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Speaker 4: I think everybody else has played them called the way

461
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Speaker 4: that you want them to play, Like, that's how I.

462
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Speaker 3: Want to get after Josh Allen.

463
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Speaker 4: Okay, but you can't get after him because if you

464
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Speaker 4: have everybody that's just dropping off into his own coverage

465
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Speaker 4: and staring at him like there's no pass rush.

466
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Speaker 3: Doesn't that to well? I mean, I get you don't

467
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Speaker 3: want to do a lot of man again, I get it,

468
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Speaker 3: I get it.

469
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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing to me is like I

470
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: look at their offense and I look at their receivers,

471
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Speaker 4: and I'm not blown away by the talent at wide receiver.

472
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Speaker 4: So like you have these two corners that you pay

473
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Speaker 4: a lot of money to to go out there and

474
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Speaker 4: play man to man like let him eat, like you

475
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Speaker 4: get so Kean Coleman's gonna beat Carlton Davis, Like, I

476
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Speaker 4: don't think that now sheak Here's a problem, like Shaquires

477
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,479
Speaker 4: is a different because of the way they use him

478
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Speaker 4: as a problem. But like I just I feel good

479
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Speaker 4: about their corners holding up against the Bills receivers.

480
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Speaker 2: I really do.

481
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Speaker 3: But I don't see I don't think that I agree

482
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Speaker 3: with you on Coleman, but I think more of the

483
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Speaker 3: other guys than you do, and Kinkaid specifically, And I

484
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that you can just ask everybody to

485
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Speaker 3: hold up and we're gonna put eight in the box

486
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Speaker 3: to make Like I just think that if you want

487
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Speaker 3: to do that, then they'll throw it on you. Yeah,

488
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Speaker 3: I think most teams are like Evan said that, they

489
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Speaker 3: don't they they'll.

490
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Speaker 2: Use a creeper. Paul, No, you don't.

491
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Speaker 3: You don't declare it so I think that James Cook

492
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Speaker 3: is really good good, but I think that that's what

493
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Speaker 3: the other team is giving them because it doesn't allow

494
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Speaker 3: you to get blown out right away. Yeah, sure, it

495
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Speaker 3: takes longer. So I agree. I think Belichick has done

496
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Speaker 3: that kind of defense millions of times in the past

497
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Speaker 3: with great success.

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Speaker 4: I told you here what you're saying, and there's definitely

499
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Speaker 4: a case for that strategy. I just when you come

500
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Speaker 4: out in too high against this team. They're killing teams

501
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Speaker 4: in the run game, and they're killing teams in the

502
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Speaker 4: short passing game. And Brady, their offensive coordinator, is really

503
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Speaker 4: good at scheming ways to get Khalil secure in space,

504
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 4: and they motioned him all over the place and he's

505
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Speaker 4: constantly moving where he's at.

506
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Speaker 2: You have to make plays on defense. You can't rely

507
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Speaker 2: on them to make the mistake.

508
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Speaker 4: That's this Bill's offense doesn't make mistakes anymore.

509
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Speaker 1: You have tos. That's it right there.

510
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Speaker 5: I mean, I I kind of I think I'm more

511
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Speaker 5: scared of the tight ends and Cook just because I

512
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of you know, I'm still not

513
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Speaker 5: sure about the Patriots run defense.

514
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Speaker 1: And you know, I agree with what Evan's saying.

515
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Speaker 5: I can easily see, Yeah, we took their receivers out

516
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Speaker 5: of it, but they just killed us with the tight

517
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Speaker 5: ends because we couldn't cover the tight ends.

518
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Speaker 3: And you know, I agree that none of these guys

519
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Speaker 3: individually scare me.

520
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Speaker 1: But the group, right, damn, that's what's so good about

521
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Speaker 1: their team.

522
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Speaker 5: And it's you know, it's almost I said to Evan,

523
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Speaker 5: I'm like, I almost feel like they have like five

524
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Speaker 5: number twos, you know, like it's like, maybe that's overstating

525
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: at a tiny bit, but everybody can make plays when

526
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Speaker 5: they have to. Nobody individually is going to blow you away,

527
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Speaker 5: and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just how do they approach it?

529
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Speaker 5: And I just think it's fair to point out one

530
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Speaker 5: more thing about the Patriots defense. It's spin the dial

531
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Speaker 5: with coverages. Like I mean, they just especially early on,

532
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Speaker 5: they play a lot of different stuff. So I you know,

533
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Speaker 5: as much as we sit here and say they should

534
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Speaker 5: do this or that, I have a feeling that it's

535
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Speaker 5: going to be a lot of stuff that they're going

536
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Speaker 5: to try to throw at him and try to you know,

537
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Speaker 5: every single coverage that there is, they're going to probably

538
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Speaker 5: try to run it at one point or another.

539
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Speaker 1: But what's finding that that winning game plan. Can you

540
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Speaker 1: stop the run with those four guys?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's always appealing to me, being able to

542
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Speaker 5: just worry about the quarterback and the and the run

543
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Speaker 5: with the front four and the linebackers. But I just

544
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Speaker 5: I also, you know a couple of others I was

545
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Speaker 5: going through next Gen. You know, you come across like

546
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Speaker 5: random stats, but you know they they're first in the

547
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Speaker 5: league and inbreakers and second in slants.

548
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Speaker 6: So it's.

549
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Speaker 5: In the inside where the Patriots have had some trouble there.

550
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Speaker 5: So you know, it's just it's it's kind of pick

551
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Speaker 5: your poison and how do.

552
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Speaker 1: You want to lose the game or how do you

553
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Speaker 1: want to win the game.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'd much rather lose the game the

555
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Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid. Yeah, if Dalton Kinkaid and Jackson Hawes and

556
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Speaker 4: Dawson Knox beat you, then I think you as a Patriots,

557
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: you have to tip your cap and say that was

558
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Speaker 4: what we had to give you, Like, are you going

559
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: to give him cooking and chakir or are you going

560
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Speaker 4: to give him?

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Speaker 1: I just feel like Josh Allen's beating you.

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Speaker 3: I guess I look at it. I let Josh I

563
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Speaker 3: have my choice of letting Josh Allen beat me, James

564
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Speaker 3: Cook beat me, I'll let James Cook be Yeah, that.

565
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Speaker 1: Seems like that's the choice teams are primarily making.

566
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Speaker 5: But even when they're doing it both way, yes, I mean,

567
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Speaker 5: that's why they're trying to in both categories.

568
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Speaker 4: So it just you know that that's my whole thing.

569
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Speaker 4: I know, I probably think a little less of kinkaid

570
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Speaker 4: than than other people do. Just not my not my

571
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 4: flavor of tight end. You know, the the jumbo receivers

572
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Speaker 4: just don't do it for me like like it does

573
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Speaker 4: for other people. But at the same time, it if

574
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Speaker 4: that's if he ends up having a big game against

575
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Speaker 4: them and that's the reason why they lose, Like at

576
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Speaker 4: least he went into the game and you took away

577
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Speaker 4: their two best options, which are Shakiir and Cook.

578
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it almost might be oversimplifying it, but

579
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Speaker 5: just like instead of all this tackle like to tackle

580
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Speaker 5: like that to me is a huge first step.

581
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Speaker 3: Like what we were talking about yesterday, do you spy

582
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen? And I was like, it's great that you

583
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: had someone that knew he was going to run, because

584
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Speaker 3: that's someone get him onto the ground because that's hard.

585
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Speaker 2: Yeah, jack jacket and arbas says to play an effective,

586
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: aggressive defensive game against the Bills, the Patriots should take

587
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: the approach the Lions took against Lamar Jackson. Rush aggressively

588
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: upfield on the edges. This will force Josh Allen to

589
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Speaker 2: move up in the pocket. Put a spy on Allen,

590
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Speaker 2: and have the defensive tackles play with gap discipline. When

591
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Speaker 2: Allen moves up in the pocket, the spy and the

592
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: defensive tackles tackle him. So he does sounds easy.

593
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Speaker 4: He does run through the middle a lot, but he

594
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Speaker 4: when he goes, he's more dangerous when he extends to throw,

595
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Speaker 4: and he does extend to throw out of the back

596
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: of the pocket. So to Jackson point, like you have

597
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: to kind of pick your poison of like is he

598
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Speaker 4: going to run right through the gut of the defense

599
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 4: or do you want him to get on the edge

600
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Speaker 4: and start extending plays and looking for receivers down the field.

601
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Speaker 4: So he's you know, those are the kind of the

602
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: differences like when you run, when you cheat and kind

603
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Speaker 4: of have him go through the middle of the pocket.

604
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: He's not gonna throw like he's gonna take off. So

605
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 4: it depends on what you want to do. I mean,

606
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 4: New Orleans tried to do what Jack is saying and

607
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: then he ran for thirty freaking yards right up the

608
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Speaker 4: middle of the field and like like three tackles doing it.

609
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: So it's he's he's good. Like a tough matchup.

610
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Speaker 2: Dave wants to know, is this the game to bring

611
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Speaker 2: back the Longhorn package. They didn't run that last school.

612
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: They ran it with school last year too. I don't

613
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Speaker 2: know if he's playing defense this year, but that was.

614
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Speaker 4: What they and I would say, like that's the reason

615
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Speaker 4: why they win. I gonna Paul is going to just

616
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Speaker 4: be I would love that show to watch tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Do we now see a return of the blueberry uniforms

618
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Speaker 2: because of the success last week?

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Speaker 4: Well, the Bills are wearing their ice whites, right, so

620
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Speaker 4: what they go good?

621
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Speaker 1: I mean I like the contrast between all blue and

622
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Speaker 1: all bloy, so.

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Speaker 3: All blue and right for it?

624
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure?

625
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Speaker 3: Yeah? And but you know that that that a whole

626
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: defensive thing that the Lions had, and they did they

627
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Speaker 3: because I watched a good chunk of that game, and

628
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 3: they did a good job of sort of making life

629
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Speaker 3: tough on Lamar Jackson. They still give up thirty, right, like,

630
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 3: it's just hard to take these offenses, and even when

631
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: you make them play left handed, they still find a

632
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: way because they're just so talented.

633
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Speaker 2: Yeah they are.

634
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Speaker 4: I think they're different animals.

635
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Speaker 2: What's fun.

636
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Speaker 3: They had a very different offense, yes, very quarterback, but

637
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: really the Ravens lost that game because of another fumble. Yeah,

638
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean Derrick Henry. That was his third fumble in

639
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Speaker 3: three games.

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Speaker 5: I've just been kind of savoring this game because there's

641
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Speaker 5: not a lot of like elite opponents this year on

642
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 5: the schedule, and to have an opponent like this where

643
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 5: it's just every stat you look through or everything, it's

644
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 5: just like, oh boy, oh boy, you know everything they

645
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: do well right now, and the Patriots got to figure

646
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Speaker 5: out a way to you know, just I think it's

647
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 5: about how the game unfolds.

648
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Even watching that game last year, you know, Drake HiT's

649
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: a big play.

650
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Speaker 5: They you know, they make a couple of plays early

651
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: and suddenly it's kind of a close game. Now, Buffalo

652
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: pulled away at the end, but look those Patriots last

653
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 5: year and again they were three wins, so Buffalo might

654
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 5: not have been an amp for the game as they

655
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: will be this week. But you know, you just you

656
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: never know you're going with these game plans, like you're

657
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: playing in a bubble, and at the end of the day,

658
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: a couple of big plays early on changes the complexion

659
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Speaker 5: of the game. You're ready to go out of the

660
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 5: gate for the first time kind of the season.

661
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Speaker 2: I think it'd be a really possible from a betting

662
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Speaker 2: spot standpoint, is it better? Is it a better spot

663
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Speaker 2: for the Patriots to be going up against a four

664
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: and zero team that's kind of cruising or a team

665
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: that's two and two and feels that they're underachieving and

666
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: they're hungry.

667
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's always an appeal to me, to

668
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: the to the young, hungry team that has something to prove.

669
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about like if the Bills came into

670
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: this game.

671
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: At feel much better, if they were two and two, Yeah,

672
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: then they probably had some weaknesses that you can actually

673
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: talk about it.

674
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: They also like last week was a very when I

675
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 4: was talking to the Bills guys last night, like it's

676
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: a very Dynasty Patriot thing. They won thirty one to nineteen,

677
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: but nobody thought they played well in the game, right,

678
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: So I don't think that the Bills are coming into

679
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: this game like they just won fifty to eleven Miami. Yeah,

680
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: so they they're they're the things that they were, you know,

681
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: a little bit worried about first of all, which I

682
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: was deuced was saying earlier. They will not say Drake

683
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: May's name. They are so afraid that the Patriots have

684
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: a quarterback again that they were like, let's talk about him.

685
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: And I was like, we talk, who are we talking about?

686
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: And they were talking about Drake. So they're terrified that

687
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: Drake May is good?

688
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: Are these people you're talking?

689
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, they like literally just like people that

690
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: work for the Bills.

691
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: No, no, oh no, but literally like he was volved

692
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: by that, Like they literally did not want to say

693
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: his name.

694
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

695
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: Then their run defense, the Bills run defense has been

696
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: leaky to start the season.

697
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: Like six yards of coach.

698
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's yeah, so you so like to you know,

699
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: if you were looking for a weakness on the team,

700
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: it's their run defense. And they've been down a couple

701
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: guys on defense all over Matt Milano. We'll see if

702
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: those guys practice this week. But if the Patriots you know,

703
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: can attack that, we you know, if there is a

704
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: weakness to attack, it's that they don't stop.

705
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: They're like every time we play the Bills, Matt Milano has.

706
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: Something always heard.

707
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is period, you know, one one little interesting nugget.

708
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: I thought maybe only haven't I'll find this interesting. But

709
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 5: you know, last year, I remember them playing like they're

710
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: just all Nickel team all the time, and now they're

711
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: they've really jumped in base like they're playing a lot

712
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: more base now, from four percent to twenty.

713
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is.

714
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: It's the most since like early on in mcdermot's coaching

715
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: tenure with the Bills. I think it was like eighteen

716
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 4: or nineteen was the last time they played this much

717
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: base defense. And they're doing that without Milana, who was

718
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: like their best linebacker.

719
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: Well, you think they'd be better at run defense if

720
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: they're playing that, you know, instead of the Nickels.

721
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: So I'd assume that's why they're playing so much bass,

722
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: because they can't stop the run.

723
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, makes sense.

724
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm I mean Sunday, and I can't get

725
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: here fast enough, right.

726
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: No, I that's there's only you know, Look, I always

727
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 5: would get up for Patriots games, but you know, when

728
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 5: you're going on the road against the Big Boss, of

729
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: the AFC East.

730
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: Call it what it is.

731
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: It's, you know, a young team trying to prove themselves.

732
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: We've kind of been in the spot before. I mean

733
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 5: Paul talked about the last big game. I mean I

734
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: remember twenty twenty one being a big game before it

735
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 5: turned into you know, win nonsense, like then it was,

736
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: but the Patriots were streaking at that point. I mean

737
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: that was the height of the Mac Jones, Bill Belichick.

738
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: I mean really that was that was kind of the

739
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: last week of the bill bis season. Yeah, that those

740
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: games down the stretch were all big games. But it's

741
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: been a while.

742
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: You know, if the Bills come up short again this year,

743
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: is Ara McDermott in trouble?

744
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: So when when when? Uh, when Evan was talking about

745
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: they won't say May's name, I was immediately thinking Ara McDermott,

746
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: Like this was like an edict, we don't like. That's

747
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: why I was like radio talking to like the Yeah,

748
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: I lost interest.

749
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: I really I really enjoy them. They're they're a great time.

750
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: We do it every year and they're they're they're great

751
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: cover one if you want, like the Bill's perspective.

752
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: I haven't never met a phone interview. We didn't like.

753
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: I just I love those I've been doing it every

754
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: year with them since eighteen nineteen.

755
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: I thought this was teed up for Freddy, like Hiray

756
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: mcdermot's not allowing anyone to say, right, this is.

757
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: Great, But listen, you are a Bill if you are

758
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: the Bills fans, you know you've finally now taken over

759
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: the AFC East. But could there be this emerging quarterback

760
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: on the Patriots where the pressure is even greater to

761
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: win now because pretty soon it's going to get competitive again.

762
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: That's right there.

763
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: Patriots they hear the footsteps honestly, like they legitimately.

764
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: Do, like who's hearing Bill's boys, Hill's mafia?

765
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: They hear the propaganda?

766
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Are they just being nice to you?

767
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: Fred I'm telling you we started the conversation, I know,

768
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: but he wouldn't say his name, and I was like, who,

769
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: I don't even know you're asking me a question. I

770
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: don't even know who you're talking about. And they were

771
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: talking about Drake. They they're genuinely work.

772
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 8: Did you guys ever feel embarrassing if you ask you

773
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 8: guys ever feel like that with the Patriots with like

774
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 8: a Mark Sanchez or Ryan Tannehill or when you know,

775
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 8: we're saying like, oh, that looks like the Jets or

776
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 8: the back when the Patriots had Tom Brady, did you

777
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 8: ever feel like, say, I'm not going to say the.

778
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Name Josh, I would get annoyed to Patrick Mahone.

779
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: Eventually said his name.

780
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: All right, It's just embarrassing that that would ever come up.

781
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, unless it was like a Freddy thing with

782
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: Aray McDermott, I was.

783
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: I was all in for that.

784
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: I thought this was a real thing.

785
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: But you thought that the head coach of the Buffalo

786
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: Bills wouldn't say Drake May's name.

787
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: The head coach of the New England Patriots wouldn't say

788
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 3: his own quarterbacks for like a year and a That's

789
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: a very different person.

790
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: But to your point, like when Pennington was schedule, it

791
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: wasn't that he was going to be like this great,

792
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: but he would annoy me. We should be beating this guy,

793
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: you know.

794
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, noodlelarm Sanchez a little bit. I mean, I mean,

795
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: Sanchez played the game of his life in that twenty

796
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: ten playoffs.

797
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: But really did play. I never have to give him.

798
00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

799
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 5: I never felt like they got a franchise quarter They

800
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 5: were good team, they were all coach, had a great defense,

801
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: they had some weapons around him l T at the end.

802
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: But I never felt Mark Sanchez was like, oh, let's

803
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: face it, since.

804
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: One what quarterback in the AFC East have you said,

805
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy's great, Josh, Josh Allen besides Josh.

806
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: Against the Patriots too up until you.

807
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: Know you're like, we should be we should be that bad.

808
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: You know, Pennington was probably the best in the Brady era.

809
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: You know, you could make an argument for my guy.

810
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: But so that's how bad the quarterbacks were, right, try

811
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: Jay Fiedler maybe, yeah, I mean right, they just there

812
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of I means, yeah, Pennington is probably

813
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: the answer to that question.

814
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: Tua is literally in the conversation, and I don't think

815
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: anybody thinks much of Tua.

816
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even Pennington, Like you just look at it

817
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 5: the way he threw the ball, and you're like, this guy,

818
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 5: yeah he might beat you once.

819
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: Or twice, especially after that surgery. Yeah, like he could

820
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: throw it all.

821
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: How great is it though, that you know deduce his point?

822
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about this game and like really analyzing

823
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: the game of like like the matchups and the strengths

824
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 4: and weaknesses and like it's fun. Just like we haven't

825
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: been able to do this in probably two years.

826
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: Like I said to Freddy, you just now it's like

827
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: I watched a baseball game last night. I was all

828
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: jacked up. It looks like it was an actual baseball

829
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 3: game for the first time in like three years.

830
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed games, but you know, playoffs.

831
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: He took that as to me being like kind of

832
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: like you with the base which is totally not true.

833
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: I just really enjoyed the game.

834
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: You haven't enjoyed games this year.

835
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: I don't really watch a lot of regular season because

836
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: this is playoff games and.

837
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: It's difference between but every pitch I watched a lot of.

838
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: I watched more Red Sox this year than a lot.

839
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Not a lot, but I've caught a couple of games.

840
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: That was a cool game.

841
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: Last night I was watching, I was stressed out, and

842
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: I was like, I was and it's so cool how

843
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: it comes. Like I just I love playoff baseball and

844
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 5: how tense every single pitches. It's just the tension and

845
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 5: now that the game moves faster, it's I mean, I

846
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 5: kind of appreciate it because it's not as much of

847
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: a slow burn. But I I'm like, why does this happen?

848
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: Like I never felt like even when I was watching

849
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 5: Red Sox during the season, I'd.

850
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: Be like, oh, that's a great win.

851
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: That oh thats tough loss. You know, never felt it.

852
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: But last night, I'm like, I think there's a handful

853
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: of games during the season that you know, you get

854
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: like a Raphael to walk off like it was.

855
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I actually texted Click.

856
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: I actually texted Freddy one night, the one against Tampa

857
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: Bay at Fenway, like, yeah, that was a little bit

858
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: different than the one sixty two. It was a handful

859
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: of those games. But this is when it matters.

860
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: This is when it mappens.

861
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: But I just think you just see Red Sox y's

862
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: actually jerseys, and I'm.

863
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: Like, live, oh yeah we do.

864
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

865
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: We probably watch forty to fifty Red Sox games a year.

866
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, I mean I mean we we are

867
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: not lying. Freddy probably watched like one hundred and fifty.

868
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean if.

869
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: It if it's Monday through Friday and they're on, that's

870
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 4: my summer friend.

871
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, see that's what I do. It's just kind of on.

872
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: But I'm not I'm not glue. Last night I watched

873
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: pretty much every pitch.

874
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, but no, we we watch pretty religiously.

875
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: Last night, Yeah.

876
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: Good, watched the game and we eat jelly.

877
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: But it's kind of it's kind of feeling like a

878
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: little throwback. We're watching some Yankees playoff baseball.

879
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: The Patriots got a big game against the Bills.

880
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Like, you know, it's almost it's a little revival here.

881
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: We're actually talking about matchups and as if they matter,

882
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: you know, whereas like, jeez, I don't know how they're

883
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: going to do this. I don't think they have a

884
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: shot to do that. No, I think that everybody looks

885
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: at Drake May right now and the offense and the

886
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: way the offense has played the last three weeks. You know,

887
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: say for the turnover fest in Pittsburgh in the middle,

888
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: can they get in a shootout and win it? Yeah,

889
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: and you go, Mano Amano with one of the best,

890
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: if not the best.

891
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 4: We're talking about that raft.

892
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: Dave wants to know, would you rather win Sunday against

893
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: Buffalo or beat Buffalo at home? Later?

894
00:37:59,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 6: Oh?

895
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Here, give me the game this week.

896
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: If I had to choose one or the other, Like

897
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: you could make an argument that one at the end

898
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: of the year would be more important. But I don't

899
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: know what Buffalo will be playing. When how late do

900
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: they play Buffalo.

901
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: I think it's the third to last week or.

902
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: Second to last and Dolphins Jets, So I know, I don't.

903
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: I think I would rather win this one.

904
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we too, just went on the road under Drake.

905
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: I would love to.

906
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: Watch Bill's Mafia walking out of that stadium. Oh yeah,

907
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: when we're going down to the to the you'll have

908
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: to do that too, So that sneaky. That is fantastic

909
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: because that press box and that whole setup. They have

910
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: to go inside and back outside and then down and

911
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: then it's it's terrible.

912
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Fourth to last.

913
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: So they play the Giants on Monday Night football and

914
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 5: then a little short week here.

915
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a chance that it won't matter that

916
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 3: much for Buffalo. I mean it will matter. I mean,

917
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: I can't imagine they have like the number one seed

918
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 3: if they're in play for that blocked up four weeks.

919
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: But I'll take this one. I would to the significance

920
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: of beating them on the road. I mean, I guess

921
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: you can wait and see how they play, but I

922
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: gotta think they're going to happen after two kind of

923
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: lackluster performances, Buffalo has got to have the attention, you know,

924
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: where it should be. It's not like you're sneaking up

925
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: on them.

926
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: Not a mouse track game.

927
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 5: I shouldn't I shouldn't be Generally, I feel like the

928
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 5: offense will will do some good things. I just I

929
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: feel I'm feeling good about the offense right now.

930
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: I just I to me, the Patriots defense is just

931
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: a huge wild card in this game.

932
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 5: And there's really no result against them with Josh Allen

933
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 5: that that would surprise me. Maybe just that they completely

934
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 5: shut Josh Allen down. But you know, there's a chance

935
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: that it's you know, Swiss cheese for for quite a

936
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: few drives, that they're going up and downfield.

937
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: That's why I wonder if you just play the turnover game. Yeah,

938
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: but I don't think you're going to stop them in

939
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: conventional offense, like we'll get them, yeah, and so like

940
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: it just I just wonder if you try to steal

941
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: some possessions in this game with pressure.

942
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, you know, obviously take a win however it

943
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: can come. But I can I hope that if they win,

944
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: so the hypothetical here is a win no matter what. Okay,

945
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 3: if they win, I hope it's not turnover related. Yeah,

946
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't want any yah butts.

947
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how else they're gonna win, to

948
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: be honest with you, I mean.

949
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: So you know, right, so that's what. That's what. Well,

950
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, they turned it over three times, and it's

951
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: very very character for the Bills. They haven't turned it over,

952
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: you know, all year. They haven't. They didn't really turn

953
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: it over last year either.

954
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: Yea.

955
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: They had a long stretch without a turnover, right, they

956
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: rival Kansas City's record.

957
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 4: I just wonder it's not even so much about turnovers,

958
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: but like negative plays like can you get a sack

959
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: on first down?

960
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: No, that's different.

961
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: That puts them off schedule.

962
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: That's not a yeah, but right, but they got sacked.

963
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: You have they sacked them. That's that's because if you

964
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: just like.

965
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: Again, like if you let them stay on scheduled, then

966
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: you're not they're going to If the turnovers.

967
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: Are two picks by Gonzo, that's why you got them.

968
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: I would rather I mean, my hypothetical is a win.

969
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: The meta what Okay, Okay, I would rather have it

970
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: be no no picks by anybody and just you you

971
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: lined up and beat them.

972
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: But that's a play that you made. Maybe maybe it's

973
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: not like just reaching out and dropping the ball on

974
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: a run. It's like your best quarterback did what he's

975
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: supposed to do.

976
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: What if you like zero blitz him and he ends

977
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: up chucking one up and then Gonzo just picks it off.

978
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: That's what I like it happen.

979
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: I just feel like that's a force turnover.

980
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: You kind of have to.

981
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm not talking. I'm not going to be happy if

982
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: they win.

983
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: Because they're coming up with the reasons now where you're

984
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: gonna have the yeah butt.

985
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: No, no, but that's always a yeah. But I mean

986
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: totally right.

987
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: If they go to Buffalo and win, that's they went

988
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: to Buffalo and well no, yeah, but okay, I'm saying, Okay,

989
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: if I had my choice, I would rather have it

990
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: be they just lined up and they were better, Yeah,

991
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: as opposed to the other team didn't play.

992
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: As I have my choice, Buffalo turns it over ten

993
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: times and we score fifty points? Do you think my choice?

994
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: You think?

995
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

996
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: But after I think Pittsburgh would have rather have won

997
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: the game. Without reminder, receiveing some fumbling twice.

998
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they give it.

999
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: Damn, I understand that. I said, what do you think

1000
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: they would rather have won it? Because they were better?

1001
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I think they're better, but they're not.

1002
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: I think I think Pepper's thinks I put my helmet

1003
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: on the ball and I made them fumble.

1004
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: I just I sorry to derail this. No, I was

1005
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: just something haven't said.

1006
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: I actually no, I'd be honest.

1007
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: And this might be a little circumstantial too.

1008
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: But like watching the Patriots game last week, I felt

1009
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 5: like so much of their success depend on early down

1010
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 5: success on defense, So like negative plays on first and

1011
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: second down, like when they weren't getting that use the

1012
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: example that first drive where they had two second downs

1013
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: and they were second and ones. Otherwise it was just

1014
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: first down, first down, first down, first out score. You know,

1015
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: getting that success on those early downs, and to Evi's point,

1016
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: being aggressive on early downs and trying to force the

1017
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 5: issue with negative plays. I think that's something the Patriots

1018
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 5: defense might really need to rely on, getting those success

1019
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 5: on early downs. I like them on third down, but

1020
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 5: you can see when they when teams get going on

1021
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 5: first and second down and you.

1022
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 4: Get them into third and long, Like, how many third

1023
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: and longs can you get them into in this game?

1024
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: I think is gonna defensively that's going to ultimately decide

1025
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: the game.

1026
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: All right, A five to five Pats five hundred is

1027
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: the hotline. We'll see what you have to say. But first,

1028
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: football fans know that traditions matter, turning moments together into

1029
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: truly something epic. There what inspire us to make our

1030
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: masa in tostitos the traditional way, starting with whole corn kernels,

1031
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: no artificial flavors, colors, or preservatives, all to give you

1032
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: that perfect crunch. Discover your next tradition this football season.

1033
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: Head to the store, grab you tostito's team bag, and

1034
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: scan the code for a chance to score an epic

1035
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: experience with the Patriots. Tostitos tradition matters. All right, let's

1036
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: get to the phones. See what you have to say.

1037
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 2: We'll go to Anthony and Seattle first. What's up, Anthony?

1038
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 6: Hey, what's up? People?

1039
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: Hey?

1040
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 6: Hey?

1041
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 9: Hi?

1042
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 7: So I agree with with you guys. I'd rather have

1043
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 7: this game than the later game for something about eating

1044
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 7: them on Sunday night. Football in front of America Another

1045
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 7: good game. Hey, uh, this game definitely feels more a

1046
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 7: little butther bit butther but and less David versus Goliath.

1047
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 7: I think this is the lost we had coming in

1048
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 7: in a long time, so I'm excited for it. I'm

1049
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 7: definitely you know, Monday, I was really like miling here

1050
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 7: to hear, like, oh man, it feels really nice to

1051
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 7: have the player of the week quarterback that everybody's talking about.

1052
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 7: When I showed the graphic and the Sunday night game,

1053
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 7: They're showing Drake May and Top Allen, and I'm like,

1054
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 7: oh man, it's so nice to have our quarterbacks to

1055
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 7: put that graphic as your market player, not for man

1056
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 7: Great Stevenson or Bill.

1057
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: Belichick, not for me, Bill Belichick against t J.

1058
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 4: Watt, right exactly, remember I remember, yeah, yeah.

1059
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 7: But hey, listen to the media is starting to worry

1060
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 7: me a little bit to there. As the week goes on,

1061
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 7: they can sinue to talk about Man. I'm like, all right,

1062
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 7: let let it breath a little bit. But I got

1063
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 7: just two quick people, I'll hang out one hit U

1064
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 7: my one. My one pushback on the moral victory is, uh,

1065
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 7: there's definitely a moral victory qualifier game, except for if

1066
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 7: we like if we freaking had them and it was

1067
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 7: like and we just like the fall like fourth and

1068
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 7: one and we fall start, or we run the play

1069
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 7: and there was a legal man and eligible man like

1070
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 7: something like that, and I'm gonna be like, oh that,

1071
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But other than that, if

1072
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 7: we just go to toe loose close, uh, you know,

1073
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 7: absolutely moral victory. And lastly, if we go down there

1074
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: and win and Drake May plays good, Here's what I'm

1075
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 7: gonna do. I'mnall in Tuesday. We'll wait on hold. You

1076
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 7: gotta answer my call. I'm just gonna say we are

1077
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 7: all right.

1078
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: There you go. Thanks Anthony, We got our guy. Where

1079
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: you hear from Williams in Montreal? Hello William? Well sure,

1080
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: William bye.

1081
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

1082
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 9: Yes, if Drake May goes down in Buffalo and out plays,

1083
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 9: Josh Allen would every time to put Drake May and

1084
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 9: the and the conversation.

1085
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: I still think it's a little too early. We had

1086
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: that question last week as well. I think yesterday or

1087
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: yesterday we had it. Yeah, I still think it's a

1088
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: little early for MVP talk for Drake May. But let's

1089
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: if the if the Patriots start peeling off wins after this. Yeah,

1090
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: it's going to be because Drake May is playing.

1091
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: Well why on this topic.

1092
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they win the game and he outduels Josh

1093
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Allen and then that leads to a battle for the

1094
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 3: AFC East title, then absolutely.

1095
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1096
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: But right now the Patriots are two and two. Yeah,

1097
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback of a two and two team is probably

1098
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: not in the m v.

1099
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 5: P race, right And I'd say you need to see

1100
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: a game where the quarterback will the team to victory

1101
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: on his back to be an m v P.

1102
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I can't believe we're talking like it's

1103
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: week four.

1104
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you why.

1105
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 5: And it's kind of funny, you know, it's not the callers.

1106
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: We're so anti fun everybody's say we're thirsty.

1107
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: For it is and that's why it's not just the caller.

1108
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not six seven.

1109
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: Uh what that means.

1110
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: The funny thing is is that like every time you

1111
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: go on Twitter, someone's found a new stat to tell

1112
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 5: you how good Drake's been, you know, like that's like

1113
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 5: they get more and more minute and.

1114
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: Like someone tweeted us a stat that was absolute fabrication. Really,

1115
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: someone tweeted us something that said that that he was

1116
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: leading the league in yards and I was like, I

1117
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: had no idea and I will looked he's like sixth.

1118
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not the fact that he's six I mean,

1119
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 5: I love I love me some good Drake stats.

1120
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: I love, you know, but like it's four games. Let's

1121
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: not get too ahead of ourselves.

1122
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: We're all very excited ahead of you, you know.

1123
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: I mean, look and I am a little bit ahead

1124
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 5: of myself just with how comfortable he looks. I mean,

1125
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: that's just to me, has been promising from maybe the

1126
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 5: first OTA practice we watched him, where it was like, wow,

1127
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: he looks like he's pretty comfortable right now, and that's continued.

1128
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 4: And that's positive, but that's watch season stats are crazy though,

1129
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: Like the fact that they're the third best team in

1130
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: the league in past EPA right now is insane. Like

1131
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: they were worlds away from that last year. And I

1132
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: get it. It's four games. It's a small sample size,

1133
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 4: but it's also not like one game anymore.

1134
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: That's a quarter of the season, right you started talking.

1135
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm more with you though, Like I just look at

1136
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: him and I see how much different he looks to me,

1137
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: And again I don't have anything to back up. I

1138
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: don't have. It's just anecdotal. I think he looks more

1139
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: confident and comfortable. I don't see him running around, you know,

1140
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: sort of haphazardly like I did a line like I

1141
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: did at times in the summer. No, it's you're throwing

1142
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: the ball twenty times instead of forty five. I saw

1143
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: him in week one. I saw him running around halp

1144
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: hazardly in week one. I haven't seen it the last

1145
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: three weeks. I think that they've sort of figured out,

1146
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: and I'm going to give Evans boy Josh a lot

1147
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: of credit. So I just feel like I look.

1148
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 6: At the guy.

1149
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: I've always been a believer in Drake May. That's why

1150
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: I wanted him over The only one I said at

1151
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: the beginning of all of this that I would have

1152
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: taken was Caleb Waits because I think he's more talented.

1153
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: I stuck by that even after Daydon Daniels was an

1154
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: MVP candidate and winning twelve games last year and going

1155
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: to championship. I still would take Drake May over him.

1156
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: There is all right, one more call then. I think

1157
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: Vrabel's going to be coming up soon, so we might

1158
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: have to cut in for that. Mike's in Puerto Rico

1159
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: what's up, Mike, Mike.

1160
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 10: Mike's everybody doing today?

1161
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 2: Good?

1162
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: Good Show's fine, but I'm I'm super excited.

1163
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 10: I didn't get to listen yesterday, so I don't know

1164
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 10: if Evan had a particular take on bad Bunny being

1165
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 10: at the Super Bowl. But I'm gonna tell you right now,

1166
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 10: if the Pagots make it with that Bunny at the

1167
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 10: halftime show, I am definitely gonna make it over there.

1168
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 10: It's fifty minutes from my house. I even placed the

1169
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 10: bed to cover the cost, so I'm going to make

1170
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 10: it happen one way or another.

1171
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, there you go.

1172
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: Smart. That is smart, Mike. I like it, good stuff.

1173
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: What odds did you get?

1174
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 7: Actually?

1175
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 10: I thought it fifty to one.

1176
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 11: Fifty to one, yeah, okay, and to make the Super one,

1177
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 11: so I put to get to the Super Bowl correct

1178
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 11: the conference, So I put you on dollars soulfully.

1179
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 10: That will turn out to be like ten thousand, and

1180
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 10: that should be more than enough to get the season ticket.

1181
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, I love it, Mike. I love that. That's

1182
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: smart strategy, you know, because in other words, if they win,

1183
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: I win, right, Well, that's how that's worked.

1184
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: But you know, you know what I mean, I actually

1185
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: didn't know what you meant.

1186
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well thanks Mike thinks okay, okay, thanks

1187
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 2: for calling it.

1188
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: So he's from Puerto Rico, but he's not living improved

1189
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico.

1190
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: Correct, So I guess the rabel's running a little late,

1191
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: a little late, that's okay. I know this is one

1192
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: of Paul's favorite subjects email and says, MVP talk is

1193
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: pretty crazy at this point. However, what's more likely is

1194
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Steph Diggs getting Comeback Player of the Year. I mean,

1195
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: what do you think of that? That Paul coming back

1196
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: from an injury.

1197
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: I honestly do not put Comeback Player of the Year

1198
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: on my radar at all. I have no idea what

1199
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: it is why they have.

1200
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: It, Okay, but you know people have won it before

1201
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: and it's usually guys that had injuries.

1202
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: Right, So sometimes it's guys that just sucks the year

1203
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: before and they come back. So that's why.

1204
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: Dak, I don't know, just trying to think of players

1205
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: that I heard last year that I don't know.

1206
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 5: Maybe if I mean, Dick's got to keep keep building,

1207
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 5: get a thousand hour season, and you know it's all connected.

1208
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: Anything we'd have to do more than that, but I

1209
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: got to see, like what he did this week the

1210
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: rest of the way. Yeah, you know what I mean,

1211
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: that's a big difference.

1212
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 5: That I forget what the down was, but that passed

1213
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 5: Drake through to him last week kind of an over route,

1214
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: big play.

1215
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Remember, you know what I think I was the one third.

1216
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: I was like third and sixteen.

1217
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 5: That was the moment that Deuce was like whoa boy

1218
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 5: like that? That specific past to me. I remember in

1219
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 5: the press box watching him complete that. It's pressure in

1220
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 5: his face getting it off, and that to me was

1221
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 5: just the moment where I said, I I really think

1222
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 5: this kid might be some so got to keep it going.

1223
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: But I get why everybody's excited about him.

1224
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 5: And that's, you know, that's what social media's for to like,

1225
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: you know, hype your guy, come up with some random

1226
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 5: stat that shows how great he is, and hopefully you

1227
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: can keep it up.

1228
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: Todd and Gardner writes in so Greg Madard said that

1229
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: he feels that Drake is quite ahead of schedule with

1230
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: respect to his progress in the year two. I'm more

1231
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: interested in where you all feel that the rookies are

1232
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: with respect to their progress this year and their ability

1233
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: to contribute over the long term.

1234
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: I think they all look good. Yeah, except for JJ McCarthy,

1235
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: who we haven't really seen much of because he got

1236
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 3: hurt and we played like two games and got hurt.

1237
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: But man, I watched bow Nicks the other night. I

1238
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: thought he looked pretty good. And I don't think that

1239
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: much about Nicks. I always put that out there. Daniels

1240
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: has been the best of the group. He's been hurt.

1241
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams the last couple of weeks has played. I

1242
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: think he's actually played pretty well in all of the games, yeah,

1243
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: just hasn't been able to win them all. Now he's

1244
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: won a couple. And I think May has been the

1245
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: best of that group this year, clearly.

1246
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: But it's a good class.

1247
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: Penix had a terrible game against Carolina, came back the

1248
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: next week and ripped it up against.

1249
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 5: Washington's essentially a rookie and he played a little last year.

1250
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: So some of these guys, you know, even Drake to

1251
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: even Drake still is there's going to be still and

1252
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 5: that's I mean, I think that's something to acknowledge that

1253
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: you know, this doesn't just mean that Drake's trajectory is

1254
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 5: a straight line upward like there's going to be some struggles.

1255
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the best defense he's faced this

1256
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 5: year and it's going to present some new challenges to him.

1257
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: So he's he's just got to continue to get the reps.

1258
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 3: And I think that class, you know, I mean it's

1259
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: too but I think that class looks good.

1260
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: Was he talking about our rookies at our rookies?

1261
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: I thought he was talk about the quarterbacks.

1262
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought he was talking about our rookies,

1263
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: but maybe he was talking about the quarterbacks, well.

1264
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: Rookies, so I assumed he was talking about with the quarterbacks, Like,

1265
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 3: how does that class look? Well?

1266
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: We could talk about that too, maybe, But I think,

1267
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Will Campbell's been really solid. But again i'd

1268
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: put him in. He's a rookie.

1269
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: He's going to have some different matchups that he faces

1270
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 5: every week, and there's going to be tough pass rushers,

1271
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 5: you know, no matter how bad the teams they play, uh,

1272
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 5: you know, their strength to schedule.

1273
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: But I think every all the rookies have been pretty AMoD.

1274
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: Mellay Kyle scratching the surface a little bit.

1275
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 5: Trevion we were more excited about him before the game's

1276
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 5: got real and but I still have a lot of

1277
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 5: confidence in him that he can be a playmaker and

1278
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 5: you know in space and uh, you know Woodson, I

1279
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 5: feel the same.

1280
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, a good play and a couple

1281
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: bad plays and he's he's up and down.

1282
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 5: I don't think there's been a lot of discussion of that, really.

1283
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Craig Woodson has been one of

1284
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 5: the most under the radar players for this Patriots ten

1285
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: this year. Nobody wants to talk about a rookie what

1286
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 5: is her fourthfront pick? Like he's He's every snap safety

1287
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 5: for you. Now, He's taken some some lumps, for sure.

1288
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: He gave up two touchdowns last week.

1289
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 5: But you know, I would hope that the coaching staff

1290
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 5: is seeing really positive strides from him to be a

1291
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: permanent safety for this team going forward.

1292
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: Aiden in California, this will be the first actual big

1293
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: game where all eyes and hype is on the Patriots.

1294
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: My question would be, is the moment too big for

1295
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: them or will they rise to the occasion.

1296
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 3: I don't think the moment will be too big. They

1297
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: might not be good enough that I fully admit that

1298
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: that's a possibility. The other team is just a step

1299
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: up and weight class and the other team is just better.

1300
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 3: But I don't think it will be because they're you know,

1301
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: not ready for their moment. I think Vrabel has excelled

1302
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: in this role. My boy on My Shows, Bred Felger

1303
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 3: had some really interesting stats about Rabel in this touchdown

1304
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: plus underdog with Tennessee. He was four and four outright

1305
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: as a touchdown or more underdog. The rest of the

1306
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: league had a winning percentage of one sixty eight or

1307
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: something like that. So they're five hundred in a role

1308
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: that everybody else.

1309
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: These kind of games, and.

1310
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: I think of games like the twenty nineteen Division round

1311
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 3: against Baltimore where he completely shut down Lamar Jackson when

1312
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: no one came close to doing that. You know that

1313
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: year he had I think one against Kansas City that

1314
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 3: he did it to Mahomes, he beat the Patriots, beat

1315
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: he beat Brady.

1316
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: I know not, but I think Lamar is a better example.

1317
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: Well the player. I don't think they were more than

1318
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: a top were they more than a touchdowns exactly. I

1319
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: don't think that that would have been one of the underdogs.

1320
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: But he gets My point that I'm making is he

1321
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 3: gets his team ready for these spots.

1322
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: YEP.

1323
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: I think he plays the no one believes that you

1324
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: can do this card, and I also think he likes

1325
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 3: the fact that there's some juice to this game. With

1326
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 3: a Sunday night national TV crowd, I think they'll be

1327
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: ready for it.

1328
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: Patriots four and a half was the line in twenty

1329
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: nineteen wildcard rounds.

1330
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: See what was the I mean, I don't I don't

1331
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: even know what when it was. But the game that

1332
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 3: I I was thinking was the game at Tennessee. Uh

1333
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: uh oh that day won with Mariota.

1334
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh that a twenty eighteen twenty seventeen.

1335
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: While you're looking that up. Curtis and Saint Louis McDaniels

1336
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: talked on Edelman's podcast about how he coaches quarterbacks in

1337
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: a nutshell. He's basically said, he has a cup and

1338
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: he likes to fill it up progressively more and more.

1339
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: My question is, do you guys think May's cup is

1340
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: filling faster than you would expect? Is Josh feeding him

1341
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: more because Drake is digesting it well and showing enough

1342
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: progress week to week, or do you feel that it's

1343
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: actually been more simple when it comes to scheme and

1344
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: what he puts in May's cup thus far? If it's

1345
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: the latter, would you say Drake is really ready to

1346
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: take on more? And how good will this look when

1347
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: the cup is truly full and Josh's bag is wide open?

1348
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: Just missed. I don't know.

1349
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, this is so hard

1350
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: for us to tell, you know what it is.

1351
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: I just all we can look at is how Drake

1352
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: may looks on the field and performing into me.

1353
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: He he looks comfortable.

1354
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you how much that they given or not.

1355
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but it seems like it's building.

1356
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 5: Feels a little bit like, I mean, week one is

1357
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 5: a little bit an outlier, but each week it seems

1358
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 5: like a little bit more someone else is getting involved.

1359
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: And you know that's all you all you can ask for.

1360
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: But it's it's I mean, we don't we don't see

1361
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 1: behind the scenes.

1362
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: So it's still waiting for Mike Vrabel supposed to be

1363
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: a twelve to fifty five? What's going on? Could there

1364
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: be a trade? Big trading? It's always the thing, Brown,

1365
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: he's on the phone, Yeah, it deals, Cody writes in Brown,

1366
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: just want to give a shout out to Alex Barth

1367
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: for being a Bills hater on this network. The glazing

1368
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen from Evan in the O. Golly g

1369
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be nice for the Bills to win a

1370
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? For Mike gets old is.

1371
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: But Alex Barth makes Fred Kersh look like hate, like

1372
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 3: a Bills backer. Someone can't tell you how many times

1373
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: he's told me that the or said on the air

1374
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: the Bills won't make the playoffs.

1375
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone keep Barth around the studio for the next

1376
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: two hour.

1377
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I probably deserve it, and I will

1378
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: say that.

1379
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: I think it was deserved for being objective saying I'd

1380
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: like to see the message. I think the whole Buffalo

1381
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: Josh Allen thing stems from so many people who consider

1382
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: themselves experts. I thought he was a stiff in the draft,

1383
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: and they just can't bring themselves to say I was wrong.

1384
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: I never had to take on him in the draft.

1385
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 3: But I've said a million times it's not that hard

1386
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: to say, no, I thought this was going to happen,

1387
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: it didn't. I was wrong. It's not that hard. I

1388
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 3: look in the mirror, I was wrong. It's not hard.

1389
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 5: I could see my Bills hate coming back. I mean,

1390
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 5: they just don't vex me right now. And I think

1391
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 5: it's because the Patriots have been bad.

1392
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 3: But you can hate the bills.

1393
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't.

1394
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, but there's there's an under you have

1395
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: to listen to it, and you know me, Fred will

1396
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 3: tell you. I sometimes I hear things that might might

1397
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: not be heard by dogs, like there's an underlying lack

1398
00:59:53,840 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: of respect still in my view, a right forel.

1399
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 7: All eyes are gonna be on you and your team

1400
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 7: Sunday night.

1401
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy primetime spotlight or I think.

1402
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 12: If you wanna be if you wanna get to where

1403
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 12: you wanna get to, I think you're you know, you

1404
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 12: certainly better enjoy it, better enjoy uh playing in uh

1405
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 12: primetime games. And that's something that you know, we're we're

1406
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 12: trying to prepare for right now, and so I think that, uh,

1407
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 12: certainly it'll be a huge challenge.

1408
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 6: You know. The last time they lost at home was you.

1409
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 12: Know, fourteen games ago, and we're we're we're well aware

1410
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 12: of that and have to do a lot of really

1411
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 12: good things, uh to give ourselves a chance.

1412
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 6: And they.

1413
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 12: Playing good football or playing clean football, they're not beating themselves,

1414
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 12: and you know, they're doing a nice job in all phases.

1415
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: Like you you faced off against Josh Shan lived the

1416
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: first five years of his career. Just his development from

1417
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: you know, year one to then when you saw him

1418
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: here three to five. How impressive was that is?

1419
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 5: Is there anything you everyone else can take away from

1420
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 5: humping from as a player.

1421
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I think he realized that he's got

1422
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 12: immense talent, and I think he has done a much

1423
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 12: greater job, better job of taking care of football.

1424
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 6: And really that's been the the big difference for for

1425
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 6: me just watching it from Afar.

1426
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 12: You know, a few years ago, I was forcing things

1427
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 12: in the red zone and that led to some turnovers,

1428
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 12: some some interceptions, and now I think he just has

1429
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 12: a greater understanding of, you know, taking care of football

1430
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 12: in those situations.

1431
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 6: And uh and they're still scoring touchdowns.

1432
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 13: Do you have an update on July to buy you

1433
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 13: expects him to be out there?

1434
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 12: I expecting the practice, yes, So I don't have an

1435
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 12: update on the game, but he will return to play

1436
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 12: in practice.

1437
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 7: If you find that balance, you're trying to defend a

1438
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 7: quarterback play Josh Allen. If you want to get after

1439
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 7: who you want.

1440
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 6: To have the kind of kind of price if approptly.

1441
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 12: Girls want to to take countess, well, there's always gonna

1442
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 12: be an extra gap in there unless you send two

1443
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 12: guys right, So there's a gap somewhere in there if

1444
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 12: you rush four.

1445
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 6: There's a gap in there if you rush five.

1446
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 12: And but but again I think that it's just good coordinated,

1447
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 12: relentless coordinated rush. You know, even when he guys are free,

1448
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 12: he makes a mess, he spins, or he'll extend, you know,

1449
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 12: out past the numbers to the red line and continue

1450
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 12: to to make plays down the field, or hevn't forbid

1451
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 12: he scrambles up the middle and you know, makes a

1452
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 12: move on a guy like he's done in the past

1453
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 12: in the last couple of weeks, or or breaks the

1454
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 12: stiff arm out. So again it's a huge challenge, you know,

1455
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 12: any time that he's carrying the football, and then obviously

1456
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 12: the accuracy and kind of the timing that he's had

1457
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 12: throwing the football will be something that will have to

1458
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 12: work on.

1459
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 14: James cooking this Buffalo run game to have so much success,

1460
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 14: and more of the.

1461
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 12: Keys to try to get pay them this way because

1462
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 12: he's a good player. They got good guys blocking for him.

1463
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 12: I think the tight end have done a really nice job.

1464
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 12: And then I think his vision and his patience and

1465
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 12: burst he just everybody's at the point of attack. He

1466
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 12: runs where you're not, and if you have bad discipline

1467
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 12: or you don't chase your gap when it's moving away from.

1468
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 6: You, he's gonna come back and find it.

1469
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 12: So it's really been a nice back form and it's

1470
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 12: just you know, taking care the football with the with

1471
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 12: the amount of carries that he's had.

1472
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, you seem to embrace the happy personnel than anybody

1473
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 14: last yearanization offense the linement.

1474
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 6: This year they're using pause sorting that role.

1475
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 14: When it's on twenty two, I think yeah, late average

1476
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 14: is three first naps a game for for twenty two

1477
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 14: personnel and they're in the thirteen fourteen rangue.

1478
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 7: What what sort of challenges that is a pretty.

1479
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 12: Guests Well, not only the twenty two personnel, the the

1480
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 12: thirteen personnel that you know, those are basically heavier personnels.

1481
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 6: They do a nice job of having a run plan.

1482
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 12: Each week out of it that they like and that

1483
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 12: they think is going to give them success, but then

1484
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 12: also still having the ability to keep the the route integrity,

1485
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 12: uh and running some of the stuff out of that

1486
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 12: with with Kincaid and Knocks and being able to do

1487
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 12: all those things that they would do out of other

1488
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 12: personnel groups.

1489
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 14: Of course, it seems as if with Josh Allen the

1490
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 14: Bills embraced really quickly the go today.

1491
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 6: He's gonna run, it's gonna make mistakes, he's gonna be

1492
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 6: a little bit of a wild stealie. Let's do that.

1493
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: So he's now come out the other.

1494
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 4: Side of it with Braff, you guys are very much stressed.

1495
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 6: Let's let's be a passive for us. Do you anticipate

1496
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 6: both a course.

1497
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 7: Of time that he would become more of a potent

1498
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 7: runner and.

1499
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 6: Embracing that the way that Allen does. I don't know

1500
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 6: if I necessarily agree with that.

1501
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 12: I think that we want Drake to play quarterback, and

1502
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 12: that's to work the progression and work the scheme of

1503
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 12: the play. And then, you know, have never said not

1504
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 12: to to run and just to protect himself and to

1505
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 12: protect the ball. So I don't necessarily agree with that,

1506
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 12: you know. And then you know, with Josh Allen, I

1507
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 12: think everybody he's gonna play quarterback. How he feels like

1508
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 12: he gives him the best chance to win, And you

1509
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 12: know lead his team to victory each week, which has

1510
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 12: been pretty successful.

1511
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 6: Is his athletic skill set.

1512
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 1: The size this team, how.

1513
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 4: Would he uses It's like mcnera Roethlisberg's.

1514
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 12: Big Not into comparisons. I think that he's a very

1515
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 12: very good athlete. I think he loves football, and I

1516
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 12: think he's got an energy to him and and there's

1517
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 12: a willingness to run. Certainly contact courage doesn't lack any

1518
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 12: of that. You know, it's like Wildcat when they when

1519
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 12: they choose to to run him on design runs.

1520
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: Without getting into the one for one comparison. Is his

1521
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: skill set, It's difficult.

1522
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 7: To defend, as maybe any other quarterback you player.

1523
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 12: Coach will be this week. It'll be the toughest challenge

1524
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 12: this week. But again his reason that he's up there

1525
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 12: in the MVP every year and that these teams are

1526
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 12: very successful.

1527
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 6: Got a lot of respect for him.

1528
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: And he knows that with four games, I'm your belt.

1529
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Speaker 15: Now, how far along do you feel like you are

1530
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 15: in identifying the consistent strengths of the team week to week?

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01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 13: And is it kind of where you expect.

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01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: It to be.

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01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 12: I didn't really have many expectations, just because you never

1534
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 12: really know, I think we're just trying to do it

1535
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 12: each and every week, and we have to continue to

1536
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 12: build that and practice that. But it's a good reminder

1537
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 12: of that when we can do those things, that we

1538
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 12: can have success and we give ourselves a chance to win.

1539
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: Like just picking back a.

1540
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 15: Little bit, when Karen was asking about it being a

1541
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 15: big moment in the spotlight on a Sunday.

1542
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: Night, do you relish the opportunity to go into a

1543
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: place like Buffalo where they've had so much success.

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01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 12: In the crowd is so into Sure, I mean, I

1545
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 12: think you have to. I mean, one, we don't have

1546
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 12: any other choice, But I think you have to. And

1547
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 12: I think it's important that we can take the next

1548
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 12: step and show that but that we are ready and

1549
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 12: that maybe some of our identity has a chance to

1550
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 12: let itself out on Sunday night. And but it'll be

1551
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 12: a great challenge, it'd be a challenge to even just

1552
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 12: prepare today and get going and focus on all those

1553
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 12: things that are going to help us in the road environment.

1554
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 11: Historically, Todd down he's in a lot of work in

1555
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 11: the red zone for the other teams you work with,

1556
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 11: Where has his work shown up there for you?

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: Guys.

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01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 6: If it all same, you know what I mean. It's

1559
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 6: the same, you know what I mean.

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 12: I like to go in and talk with with Todd

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01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 12: and Thomas and get some preliminary thoughts and some things

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 12: that we may like and then be able to present

1563
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 12: it to Josh as we work due to week.

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01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 6: So you know, those guys are as involved as they

1565
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 6: always have been.

1566
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 5: How do you assess your safety and if you needed

1567
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 5: to tap into that, anyone in that corner room that

1568
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: might have some flexibility to play back there.

1569
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 12: I don't I haven't thought about I don't think we've

1570
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 12: thought about taking any corners and making them safeties just yet.

1571
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 6: Like let's make their past.

1572
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: Defense as effective this. It's been a thin fair number

1573
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: one of the league's yards.

1574
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 12: In the past, very sound, the great vision and break players.

1575
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 12: You know, they got some guys on the corner on

1576
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 12: the edge that have some length. Backers are fast, instinctive,

1577
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 12: and the safeties do a great job of disguising and

1578
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 12: then once the match the route declares, you know, being

1579
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 12: able to match it and play it. It's they've done

1580
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 12: a nice, really nice job. But they stay multiple proficient

1581
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 12: in a lot of different coverages and they mix it

1582
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 12: up on you.

1583
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 15: They're trying to keep things in front for the most part,

1584
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 15: seems like not a lot of deeper passes been.

1585
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably fair, But I

1586
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 12: don't think you know, it's not like they're playing cover

1587
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 12: two extensively, you know. I mean, there's a lot of

1588
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 12: post safety and you know, they get into their quarters

1589
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 12: and then they blitz different people off of it. But

1590
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 12: it's a very sound and instinctive defense with guys that trigger,

1591
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 12: and when it gets thrown short, they do a great

1592
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 12: job of breaking and vice tackling and not missing a

1593
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 12: whole lot of tackles and when the quarterback decides to

1594
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 12: check it down.

1595
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 3: I seen when at linebacker over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 14: Do you see that continuing or would you prefer to

1597
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 14: stick with one guy next to school.

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 12: I don't mind rotating, and I think that everybody's just

1599
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 12: trying to help us out. We've got a lot of

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 12: guys that play special teams. We've got guys that play

1601
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 12: rotating there on defense, we play a lot of different

1602
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 12: skill players offensively, So you know, I think that that

1603
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 12: can be a good bet, you know, I mean, good balance, This.

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Speaker 1: Will be good My last visit to Buffalo unless you

1605
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: go back and close season. Do you look at the

1606
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: what do you recollection to that stadium bat environment?

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Speaker 6: And did you really really love the visitors law for them? Yeah?

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 12: Didn't It wasn't it Ralph Wilson Stadium. Yeah, I mean

1609
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Speaker 12: I think again. I love the ride up. I love

1610
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 12: the passionate fans and you know mean coming up into

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01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 12: that day and driving down the you know, on the

1612
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 12: road and seeing the same things you saw for you know,

1613
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 12: twenty years, you know, being in this league. So it's

1614
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 12: a great sports town and uh, you know we're excited

1615
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 12: to go there on Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: History. But but that's my point. They didn't. I think

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Speaker 2: Levy was caught the wave there. He had a great team,

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Speaker 2: great person you know, great players. They were oh my

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Speaker 3: They were unnecessary one ever?

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. As you can see,

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Speaker 2: Uh dudes has gone to the locker room. He'll be

1668
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: back with a report. Evan already left early because he

1669
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: was that Vrabel and he'll be also in the locker room.

1670
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: So we'll get the word from the locker room when

1671
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: they returned. But we just heard from Mike Rabel and Paul.

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think were the takeaways?

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that there was a whole lot to

1674
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 3: this one. But as we talked about in the first hour,

1675
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: I would say that Mike Rabel very much is looking

1676
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 3: forward to this opportunity. I think he relishes these this role.

1677
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: I think National TV on the road against one of

1678
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: the NFL's elite, I think he likes those.

1679
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 2: And it's funny because he was asked that question just

1680
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: that way, and if it was Bill Belgian, well, you know,

1681
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,879
Speaker 2: it's just another game and you know where they're all important,

1682
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But Mike said, no, this is big game.

1683
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 2: We hope that we can have our identity start to

1684
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: develop or come forth in this game under the lights

1685
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: Sunday night, the whole country, will you know, Like He's like, yeah,

1686
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: I own it. This is going to be big.

1687
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 3: And you know, I thought there was some questions in

1688
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 3: the middle about, you know, sort of Josh Allen and

1689
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: you know, comparing him to others and Drake May, and

1690
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 3: he doesn't really want to get into any of those

1691
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: comparison kind of talk. I did find it interesting there

1692
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: was a question in there about sort of limiting May's creativity.

1693
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: You know, I'm paraphrasing that wasn't the actual question, but

1694
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: his running and Mike sort of took exception to that,

1695
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: like's I would disagree with that.

1696
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: I never told him that.

1697
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 3: You know, he wants him to protect himself and protect

1698
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 3: the ball, but not necessarily not to run. So I

1699
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 3: think that is kind of a narrative that is, you know,

1700
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: permeated for the first month.

1701
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: We got an update on Julia.

1702
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to start practicing. His window can officially

1703
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: open today, so the four weeks that he had a

1704
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: miss being on ir So now, assuming that he's out

1705
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 3: there at practice, we'll find out later, but assuming he

1706
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: was out there, that that thus opens a twenty one

1707
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 3: day window that he can practice before the Patriots have

1708
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: to make a decision on whether or not the active.

1709
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: He can play any time, but they have to make

1710
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: he could play Sunday.

1711
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: If they wanted him to play Sunday, they could activate

1712
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: him to the rosters before the game this week, but

1713
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: they have twenty one days to make that determination.

1714
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, So that was Mike Vrabel.

1715
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 3: My guess is we won't see him this week, but

1716
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: maybe he It's a week you know, kind of like Gonzo.

1717
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 3: You know, you have a week of practice under your belt,

1718
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: and the second week of practice and you come back.

1719
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 3: So Tavai hasn't really done much in a long time.

1720
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about this in the postgame show.

1721
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: Maybe with his the way he plays linebacker, he could

1722
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: be helpful this year. Yeah.

1723
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 3: At the very least, he gives you some depth at

1724
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 3: a spot that you don't have a ton of it.

1725
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, eight five five Pats five hundred is

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Speaker 2: the hotline. That's how you can call us podcast at

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Speaker 2: Patriots dot com is the email address, and a lot

1728
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 2: of emails coming in. Norwe from Arizona writes in he

1729
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: said he's pumped about the game and the national stage.

1730
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: He said he emailed Thursday show about reading into a

1731
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: running back drill when Henderson was the first one leading

1732
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 2: the tackling ball carrier. One. I recall Evan being dismissive

1733
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: of this, also considered that this information came from a

1734
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: Mike Reese tweet. Well, look at what happened on Sunday.

1735
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: You had Henderson and Gibson getting goal line touchdown carries

1736
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: while Stevenson didn't. Is this something else with is this

1737
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: something that we also shouldn't be reading into?

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Speaker 3: And Stevenson started, That's why Evan said not to read into.

1739
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have a question. If the Patriots are

1740
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: hanging with Buffalo in a back and forth game where

1741
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: both teams are alternating leads throughout the game and the

1742
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Speaker 2: games come down to who has the ball last, if

1743
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots end up falling short over a last minute

1744
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: score by Buffalo, how will you guys end up feeling

1745
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: about the team afterwards.

1746
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are all very I think they're all very

1747
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 3: good questions, and I just would say I kind of

1748
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: need to see the way the game unfolds generally, without

1749
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 3: getting too detailed, you know, with this, I would say

1750
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 3: I'd feel pretty good about the scenario that he just

1751
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 3: kind of unfolded there. But you just, you know, let's

1752
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 3: say that they fall short at the end, Fred, Why

1753
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: did they fall short? Right, Someone drop a pass, someone

1754
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 3: miss a blitz. It may overthrow somebody.

1755
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

1756
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of different ways that you

1757
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 3: can fall short and not feel great about it. But

1758
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 3: in general terms, I would say, if the Patriots have

1759
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 3: a chance to win this game on Sunday, I probably

1760
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: would feel pretty good about the Patriots. Yeah, general, you know,

1761
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: generally speaking, I mean, if they're plus four in the

1762
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: turnover ratio and they lose the game, I'm probably not

1763
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 3: going to feel as great as I might, you know,

1764
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 3: But if they go to Buffalo on a Sunday night

1765
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 3: and take Buffalo's best shot and have a chance to win,

1766
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: I think, you know, most Patriots fans, I think are

1767
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: probably going to feel pretty pretty good about the team's

1768
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: fortunes going forward.

1769
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: Adrian and Delaware, I know you guys don't do the

1770
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: paper anymore, but I think it would be fun on

1771
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: the Tuesday shows to brainstorm with the listener, is what

1772
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: the cover picture of the previous game would be and

1773
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: what the headline would say. For example, after the Carolina game,

1774
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: would the picture be the Marcus Jones punt return or

1775
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: Drake May Superman celebration?

1776
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: Good question, Yeah, it probably would have depended. I'm going

1777
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: to jump into Freddy's head here. Fred used to look

1778
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: at the photos and a lot of times that would

1779
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: determine what you what you went with if it was

1780
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: a great photo, you know. As an example, my guess

1781
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: is we would have had the cover of the Miami

1782
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 3: game would have been Antonio Gibson running side by side

1783
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 3: with Mike Rabela, the great David Silverman photo. Longtime Patriots photog.

1784
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: He didn't want to give him his props. David Silverman

1785
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 3: one of the few that's been around longer than.

1786
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: Both of us, right, been longer than the Crafts have

1787
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: been here.

1788
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that my guess is that you would have

1789
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: seen that and said we got to get this on

1790
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: the cover.

1791
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 6: Yep.

1792
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: You know, so a lot of times you would look

1793
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 3: at those photos and say, well, I know, the Marcus

1794
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: Jones punt return was probably the biggest player of the game,

1795
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: but this photo over here is a better photo, Yeah,

1796
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: and then gone with that. Yeah, but I love I

1797
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 3: love the idea of the Superman thing that would have been.

1798
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 3: That would have been kind of cool.

1799
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1800
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: So, like Paul said, you know, you what was going

1801
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: in on, what were the plays of the game, But

1802
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: then you see the photos, and back then it was

1803
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 2: a little bit different. Especially in the nineties, you didn't

1804
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: have the thousands of photos that these guys take now digitally,

1805
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: so you had to be more selective with what actually

1806
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: came out nicely, and like Paul said, sometimes the quality

1807
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: of the photo dictated the cover and then you'd have

1808
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: to figure out the headline from that.

1809
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: Because we had like off and running with Gibson on

1810
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 3: that kick return.

1811
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah something like that. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, too good.

1812
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: That's fine. I kind of missed that.

1813
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: Marcus Jones, too good. Two good, there you go, punt return.

1814
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. That's a good one. Good, Paul,

1815
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: that was a cliche. That's good. That's good. But I

1816
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: don't mind doing that. Like what's your cover headline?

1817
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: And you know what, let's make that a thing on Tuesdays.

1818
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 3: If we get you guys in your emails, email in

1819
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 3: what your cover words would have been? Yeah, and then

1820
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 3: we can maybe spend maybe fifteen minutes every Tuesday talking

1821
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 3: about it.

1822
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 2: Maybe we can actually pick a picture and have it

1823
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 2: up on the screen and say, okay, here's the picture. Yeah,

1824
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: give us the headline. Yeah. Yeah.

1825
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 3: It used to be a big thing on the bus. Yeah,

1826
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 3: on road games, you know, Fred and Andy and I

1827
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: would sit around the guys from like the radio, the

1828
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 3: sports hub. Mark Capello, a longtime producer of the Patriots games.

1829
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: Would you know, he would immediately come on, Freddy, what's

1830
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: the Cover's the cover? What's the cover like? And we

1831
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 3: would all sort of talk about it, and full disclosure,

1832
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 3: Fred and Andy would come up with far more of

1833
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: the covers than I would because it wasn't my thing

1834
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: and I always got shot down. But that's it was

1835
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 3: kind of a collaborative. We would do it on the

1836
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: bus a lot on those road games.

1837
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: Also, I think Alex should have a word of the

1838
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 2: week on Wednesday or Thursday. But the word or phrase

1839
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: must be in Portuguese. Maybe another Jill jingle. Perhaps I

1840
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: speak Spanish, but I'd love to learn a bit of Portuguese,

1841
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: especially since the Patriots are marketed in Brazil. This could

1842
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: be the spiritual successor to Eric's word of the day. Yeah,

1843
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: play yeah. Eric used to have a word of the day.

1844
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: I remember as if his vocabulary was so much more

1845
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 2: so fast, yeah, half the words you would mispronounce. Oh man,

1846
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: Eric Poor Eric Jeff and Hickory, North Carolina calls himself

1847
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: the Southern Patriot. If you look at it, we are

1848
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: a turnover away from being at least three and one,

1849
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: and then we would have a chance at this week

1850
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: against the Bills. Why the only two things I worry about? Oh,

1851
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: I see, yes, you only think that's what he probably Dideah.

1852
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 2: I think the only two things I worry about with

1853
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: the Bills is our defense. In the first quarter, they

1854
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: toughen up after that and turnover differential. Regardless, we have

1855
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: a chance if Drake has more than thirty rushing yards

1856
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: and no interceptions, change my mind. So Drake with thirty

1857
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: rushing yards and no interceptions, I.

1858
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: Don't think they I mean no interceptions is important. I

1859
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 3: don't think they need any certain amount of yards rushing.

1860
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think if he has three yards rushing,

1861
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: you have a chance.

1862
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: Does he throw the ball well right?

1863
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: And is he rushing because he's being chased all over

1864
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: the place? Yeah, I mean I everybody will has a

1865
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: very contextual game.

1866
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 3: I would say anybody that goes into a game like

1867
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 3: this and things, you don't have a chance. I just

1868
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 3: don't know what you've watched. Like, why wouldn't the team

1869
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: average and New Owans had a chance last week? I

1870
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: think New OANs is one of the worst teams in football.

1871
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 3: So why wouldn't the Patriots at two and two have

1872
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: a chance. They of course they have a chance. Yes,

1873
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 3: of course they do.

1874
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: I want to do a little Patriot It's uh.

1875
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: This is the time to do it when no one's

1876
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 3: here around.

1877
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: Sure, just play Okay, this is Max in Atlanta, who

1878
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: had the longest rush in the longest reception for the

1879
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: Patriots last season.

1880
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: To be good for me, I'm going to say Antonio

1881
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 3: Gibson had the longest of both.

1882
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: You're right, you would be correct, and one.

1883
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: Of them was definitely against San Francisco.

1884
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: Forty five yard ron in a fifty yard catch. When

1885
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: was the last year a wide receiver had the longest

1886
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: reception for the Patriots? When was the last year a

1887
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver had the longest reception for the Patriots. I

1888
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: would never have gotten this. I don't even remember the play.

1889
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 2: I'll give you the year. Want me to give you

1890
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: the twenty one?

1891
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: Oh so would this be like a Jacksonville or a

1892
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 3: Jets game?

1893
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. He doesn't have the game. No, no,

1894
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: I'll give you the yardage. Seventy five yards.

1895
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 3: It was a long play. Kendrick Bourne Hendrick Oh Dallas overtime,

1896
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: the overtime loss at home against Dallas, seventy five yard

1897
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 3: that gave him the lead in the fourth quarter.

1898
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Matt Jones had a nice pass.

1899
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it actually should have been picked but

1900
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: seventy five yard touchdown to Bourne the play after Jones

1901
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 3: had just thrown a pick six.

1902
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: Okay, in two thousand and four, one player on the

1903
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 2: Patriots had one hundred percent completion percentage. Who was it?

1904
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 3: What year?

1905
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four? This isn't This is kind of

1906
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: a trick question. Two thousand and four.

1907
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 3: Adam vinit Terry, that's correct.

1908
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: One pass, one touchdown.

1909
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Four yards. Troy Brown hat rams Yep.

1910
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: And that was also a game where Troy Brown played cornerback, right,

1911
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: he played He played defense in that game. Yeah, in

1912
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, we won our first ten games. What city

1913
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: were we playing in when we lost our first game?

1914
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: That season?

1915
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen they won their first ten Yeah, now, come on,

1916
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 3: this game has a name? Would not have remembered that

1917
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 3: Harper's muff?

1918
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Denver?

1919
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 3: That was their first loss that year.

1920
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were ten and o going into that game,

1921
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: remember that, So I remember they lost and Gronkowski had

1922
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: the injury.

1923
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: They lost four out of the last six, I believe,

1924
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: and all of them fell at least partly on the

1925
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 3: shoulders of Bill Belichick. I've gone to that those are

1926
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 3: my greatest hits. Two thousand and fifty. Yeah, kicking, kicking

1927
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 3: off and overtime, I mean yeah, kicking off and overtime

1928
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: at the Jets Harper's mouth, Harper's mouth, take a kid off.

1929
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 3: The practice squad put him back to return a punt

1930
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter in a snowstorm.

1931
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: In two thousand and five.

1932
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna run Stephen Jackson every play in Miami

1933
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: the course. Now you got me all riled up.

1934
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: That was a tough That was a tough year. That

1935
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: was a tough year. Should have been better in five

1936
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: we lost in the same city in Week six and

1937
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: in the Visional Round. Where were those games played?

1938
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: Denver?

1939
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: Again obviously, he says, yeah, yep, that one.

1940
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 3: That one's more obvious.

1941
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: And finally, one team has played four home games this season?

1942
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: Which team is it?

1943
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 10: Uh?

1944
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 3: You mean after Sunday?

1945
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1946
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: No one's played full home games.

1947
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 2: Okay, so after Sunday Buffalo.

1948
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 3: We talked about this on Sunday.

1949
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 2: Well, he says, Denver. But it's just a joke.

1950
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I thought he was being serious because of

1951
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 3: like this is we I don't really recall this. Buffalo

1952
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 3: is going to play at home Sunday night. It's going

1953
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 3: to be four the first five at home. Yeah, that's

1954
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 3: a lot.

1955
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: We thought it might have something to do with the stadium,

1956
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: but we looked at the end of the year, they

1957
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: were also playing at home.

1958
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 3: Then that's why I thought I was you know, he

1959
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 3: was being serious. Yes, but Denver is at home every week.

1960
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: PS. Yesterday you guys talked about Higgins being traded since

1961
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: he's a creative. We got that.

1962
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 3: I was definitely wrong on that one. See it's not

1963
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 3: that hard when you have the wrong information, you just

1964
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: say I was wrong.

1965
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: Ye Wisconsin, Glenn right, Sin The Bills haven't played a

1966
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: good NFL team yet. Ravens, Well, they are a good team. Jets,

1967
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Miami and Saints aren't good. The Patriots could be a

1968
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 2: step up in competition. They need to leverage their offense

1969
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,839
Speaker 2: and special teams. The defense will be under.

1970
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: Direct Okay, so here's where I You know, with all

1971
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 3: the I think that they can compete, you should absolutely

1972
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 3: expect to compete. Why don't they have a chance. I'm

1973
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 3: going to say all those things. So if we're not

1974
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 3: counting Baltimore as a good team, who are the Patriots played?

1975
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 6: Right? Right?

1976
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Right, they're good, Miami.

1977
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: They're good, right, Like those are bad. They've played bad teams.

1978
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 3: There's a reason why Baltimore still has a better chance

1979
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: odds wise to win the AFC North than Pittsburgh. Yeah,

1980
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: because everybody looks at the teams and says that one's

1981
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 3: better than that one. But I yeah, Like I said,

1982
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 3: I give the Patriots every opportunity to go to Buffalo

1983
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 3: and put their best foot forward. They should, They should

1984
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 3: expect to compete and win. They should.

1985
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Martin out of Kansas, good day, he says, Fred, you

1986
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: have the phrase, what do the Sharks know game? When

1987
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: the game open, it was Bills by ten and a hay.

1988
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 2: Now it's Bills by seven and a hay. I find

1989
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: it interesting. Are they giving the Patriots more respect?

1990
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 3: I saw eight and a half to seven and a half.

1991
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: But I trust you it could also mean they just

1992
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: need to get Bills money in because the Patriots at

1993
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 2: ten and a half while the fans were crazy and

1994
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: making the best.

1995
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Patriots have been I would say, offensively

1996
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 3: better than a lot of people thought they would be.

1997
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 3: I think two and two is not I mean two

1998
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 3: and two is not a surprise. A lot of people

1999
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: figured at the start of the season they had three

2000
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: and one was in play, so two and two was

2001
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 3: not a surprise. But I would say the offense has

2002
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 3: been a little bit of a surprise. Don't you think

2003
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 3: that they've been better offensively?

2004
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,839
Speaker 2: Well, I thought they would be better, so I thought.

2005
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: They would be better. But they've been good this difference,

2006
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Okay, Like like I mean,

2007
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 3: I don't really care about these numbers that Mike and

2008
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 3: Evan liked to throw because they're all percentages, yep. But

2009
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 3: they're like in the top five in the league and

2010
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 3: a lot of numbers wise, but I I think there's

2011
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 3: they're like sixth or eighth or something in point.

2012
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 2: But I expected see to see an improvement in the

2013
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: you know, I did too. It was Drake, it was

2014
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:31,839
Speaker 2: the line, it was the coaching.

2015
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 3: I did too. I just didn't expect them to be

2016
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 3: over thirty twice in the first four weeks.

2017
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't.

2018
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 3: I thought they would be better all the things you said,

2019
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 3: but I didn't expect them to be scoring thirty plus

2020
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 3: and forty plus in the first four weeks of the season.

2021
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay, But as you know, it wasn't really forty, but

2022
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: it was.

2023
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 4: It was.

2024
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 3: It was closer to really forty than it was over

2025
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 3: thirty of Miami game.

2026
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 6: Yep.

2027
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Valentine from Switzerland, if we hang with the Bills and

2028
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 2: we have a drive to end the win in May,

2029
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: would it be a moral victory? We talked about that.

2030
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: The only concern I have left with Drake May is

2031
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 2: his ability to win close games. Usually top quarterbacks in

2032
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: this league have already won multiple games coming from behind

2033
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: to this point.

2034
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you're right, he hasn't done. I mean, they

2035
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 3: did win a close game in Miami, but it wasn't

2036
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 3: because Drake May came from behind to do it. That

2037
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: he had the kick return that did it. Yeah, I

2038
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 3: mean that's probably the next step in his evolution is

2039
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 3: when the game is on the line, do you play

2040
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: the same way you have been playing?

2041
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 2: Right? Yep? A quick midweek game. Regarding the current roster

2042
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: for the following groups of three players, I would like

2043
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: to know if you would either keep the current player,

2044
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: switch the player for the alternate or alternative from the

2045
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: other team, or switch the player for a former Patriot. Oh,

2046
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: this is too complicated. I'm not doing it. It's too complicated.

2047
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 3: Can you give me just one example?

2048
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you one example. Three choices running back,

2049
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: keep ramondre Stevenson, switch for Cam Scataboo, or switch for

2050
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 2: prime Vegas Ferguson. Okay, so he keeps Yes, so I

2051
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 2: thought he wanted us.

2052
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: You probably you would probably trade him for Cam's camp Scataboo.

2053
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 2: In three yards of no, I keep remondre Stevens, would

2054
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: wide receiver, keep Stefan Diggs, switch him for Matthew Golden

2055
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: or switch for prime Cedric Jones.

2056
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 3: I think I would switch him for Matthew Golden for

2057
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 3: the age, the age difference. Okay, I mean Diggs is

2058
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 3: a better player, I mean right now.

2059
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 2: But what if you're just talking about this season not

2060
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, like I.

2061
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 3: Think Golden's pretty good, and I think he could be

2062
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: really good.

2063
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 2: All right, what's going on?

2064
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 3: And I don't know. There's a lot of conversations, a lot.

2065
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: Of u F bombs being thrown out there. Tight End,

2066
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 2: keep Hunter, Henry, switch for Dalton Kincaid, or switch for

2067
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 2: prime Rod Rutledge.

2068
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 3: I would keep Hunter because of Evan's thing. He's more

2069
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 3: of a well rounded tight end. I liked Alton Kincaid.

2070
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: Evan doesn't. I think he's a good player, but he's

2071
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 3: not much of a blocker. Henry does it does a

2072
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 3: little bit of everything.

2073
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: O line, keep Mike and when you switch for Matt Pryor,

2074
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: or switch for Prime Steven Neil.

2075
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 3: Oh, Steven Neil, Yeah, I don't know who Matt Prior is.

2076
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Full disclosure, cornerback.

2077
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Keep Christian Gonzales, switch for Cooper Dejene or switch for

2078
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: Prime Malcolm Butler, Yeah, keep, come on. Finally, keep Drake

2079
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: May switch for Baker Mayfield, or switch for Prime Cam Newton.

2080
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 3: I think I would keep Drake May me too. Prime

2081
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 3: Cam Newton is m v P tempting, but I think

2082
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 3: that he's Mays a better passer, even at even at

2083
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 3: Newton's height of his prop powers, I think may is

2084
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 3: a better passer, So I would keep May. Yep, that

2085
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,839
Speaker 3: was a little bit more enjoyable.

2086
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: I didn't know he actually gave us the options. I

2087
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 2: thought we were have to like sit here and think

2088
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: about who we would switch them for. Alex from Austin, Texas.

2089
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 2: We often talk about how explosive Marcus Jones is with

2090
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. Yeah, Paul's guy.

2091
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 3: I know where this is going.

2092
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 2: This past weekend was exceptional evidence of that. Do we

2093
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 2: think there will be a time this season we'll see

2094
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 2: him on offense?

2095
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 6: Yep?

2096
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: I know we've seen it in the past, But do

2097
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: we think Josh will ever play that card? In PS?

2098
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 2: My Rivalry's jersey just came in and it is incredible.

2099
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 3: It's fire. I do think there's a chance that we'll

2100
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 3: see that this week. No, No, I'm not calling for

2101
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 3: it this weekkay, necessarily, I'm just saying I think there's

2102
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 3: a chance that you'll see Marcus Jones on offense.

2103
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Matthew from Wichita right sin. In the

2104
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 2: first part of the show, there was a lot of

2105
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 2: praise for the Buffalo pass catchers because how many good

2106
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 2: to okay options they have. Isn't that sort of the

2107
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: same thing the Patriots have. I think the Patriots pass

2108
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 2: catching group doesn't get enough praise for their diversity of talent.

2109
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: Each of the Patriots receivers has their own unique skill

2110
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 2: set and very little overlap. Would you rather have the

2111
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: Patriots pass catching group or the Bills?

2112
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 3: I think they're both subpar.

2113
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Well, which one would you rather have?

2114
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 3: Probably Buffalo only because of Diggs's age, but I think

2115
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 3: they're very similar. And I would just say, I mean,

2116
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 3: it sounded like there was like a a gotcha moment

2117
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 3: in that email. I No, I agree, and that's why

2118
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 3: I think most people think Buffalo's receivers stink like I

2119
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 3: think he was trying to say, well, if Buffalo is

2120
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 3: this or that or the other thing, then why are

2121
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 3: we not saying that about the Patriots?

2122
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 11: No, we are.

2123
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 3: I think they both kind of lacking in star power

2124
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: at the receiver position. Yeah right, okay, now digs like

2125
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 3: prime digs, which you know, if he would prime digs,

2126
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 3: he'd still be on Buffalo, right, he hasn't been that guy.

2127
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 2: Gavin writes in if the Patriots somehow pull off the wind,

2128
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 2: what are you guys thoughts on trading trying to trade

2129
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: for a J. Brown? And how great would this benefit

2130
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 2: the team going forward?

2131
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 3: I'd be interested in trading for AJ Brown win lose

2132
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 3: right now?

2133
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, yep, Okay, waiting for uh be coming in?

2134
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: But I do like you don't get the heads up anymore.

2135
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 2: He just storms in.

2136
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: No, it's it's become a thing. It's become a thing.

2137
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Somebody said that just prior to the song, like there

2138
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 2: should be that noise that Stone calls Stone cold Steve

2139
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 2: Austin when he smashes through Uh. But anyway, we'll see

2140
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: what they got cooked up back there the midst aw

2141
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 2: the yelling. I don't know what the yelling was.

2142
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 3: I just said that it was just today.

2143
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 2: We had a caller call and that was Costello is

2144
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 2: calling in from New Hampshire. His new favorite caller is

2145
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: Brian from Lowell and the way he sucks the fun

2146
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 2: out of the room and grinds the podcast to a halt.

2147
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 2: It's hilarious hearing Fred depressingly muttered, yell okay to get

2148
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,440
Speaker 2: the call over his comedy gold keep Brian.

2149
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 3: Please, everyone's welcome. Not everybody has the same level of play,

2150
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 3: you know, or time for your phone call and we

2151
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 3: take everyone yeap. Why can't Booty be the explosive deep threat?

2152
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 2: He says? Is it Booty or boutet Booty? Yeah, it's

2153
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 2: Booty right, Yeah. I heard the announcers say, oh, it's.

2154
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know our own guy. I don't know why.

2155
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:44,759
Speaker 3: I don't know why that happened.

2156
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 2: The TD bomb he caught last year against Houston and

2157
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: a few others from last season seemed like that could

2158
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 2: have been a role for him, or am I remembering

2159
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: that wrong.

2160
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 3: I have a lot of hope for him, so I

2161
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 3: would say that he has gotten deep a few times,

2162
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 3: but don't confuse that with being a consistent deep threat.

2163
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 3: I don't think he has great straight line speed, but

2164
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,959
Speaker 3: he has shown the ability to get open deep on occasion,

2165
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 3: and they really haven't tried a lot of those. They

2166
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 3: have tried a few of them, yep, here and there, but.

2167
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 2: I mean the one in Miami was like twenty five yards.

2168
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 3: It's not really sixteen sixteen yards sixteen yards, Yeah, but

2169
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 3: they I'm like, I'm thinking of the deep one down

2170
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 3: the sideline. They went to him deep on a pass

2171
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: interference against Pittsburgh. I think they've tried it a couple

2172
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 3: of times here in that, but they haven't really stretched

2173
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 3: the field very much on verticals, as Heaven would would say.

2174
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 2: Lastly, the linebackers have been bad. He's got it in caps.

2175
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 2: If Juwan Bentley was still on the team, could that

2176
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 2: have been a fit he could cover a little bit

2177
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 2: or is his body type not a fit for what

2178
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 2: they're doing on defense?

2179
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 3: Juwan Bentley was not known for his coverage.

2180
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: He was run stopped.

2181
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 3: He was a better run stopper than probably they've gotten

2182
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 3: better tackler. But evidently they felt like he wasn't a

2183
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 3: scheme fit, and you know, they went with some smaller,

2184
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 3: quicker guys in Spalaine in Ellis, you know, and it

2185
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 3: could have been.

2186
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: A cultural thing. Not that Juwan was great for the

2187
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 2: locker room, but I think in terms of the leadership

2188
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: of this team, Bentley was a former captain, and I

2189
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 2: think Rabel might have, just guessing here, wanted his guys

2190
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 2: as leaders.

2191
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 3: And you see, you know, first first year Patriots like

2192
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 3: Spulaine in Landry, you know, in that captain role. So

2193
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 3: I think you'd probably right about that.

2194
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why this person's asking this question, Ashton,

2195
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 2: but the question is, would you consider trading Drake May

2196
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 2: in two first rounds? Oh, it's a joke. Would you

2197
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: consider trading Drake May and two first round picks for

2198
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz in a third round pick? I thought it

2199
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: was the other word around, that we would get to

2200
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: first round picks. So it's even absurd, but just being crazy.

2201
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 3: That's weird though, it's like not even no, I think

2202
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 3: it's a joke, but it's not, you know, it's not

2203
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 3: even jokey though. No, I don't know, Yeah, but I

2204
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,799
Speaker 3: don't think there's very much that I would be considering

2205
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 3: trading Drake May for.

2206
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 2: That right now. I mean, he's the sky's a limit

2207
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,560
Speaker 2: the way it looks right now, we're we're starting to

2208
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 2: see who I.

2209
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 3: Want to see it out. I want to s see

2210
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 3: it play out. Does he get better? Does he continue

2211
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 3: to you know, add add some tools to his bag?

2212
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: And and and what I hope is you see the

2213
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 2: continuation this year. But I also hope there's some continuity

2214
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: with the coaching staff next year. Like, you know, Josh

2215
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 2: is still here, Thomas Brown doesn't head off to.

2216
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 3: The you know, yeah, I mean, you probably have a

2217
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 3: chance to lose some of the other guys, but this,

2218
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 3: you know, there's a good chance if if everybody wants

2219
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 3: to return. And you know, like I don't think Josh

2220
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 3: is going anywhere, right, I mean, at this stage, I

2221
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to get another joaching office.

2222
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's another thing that just struck me with

2223
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 2: Rabel's press conference today. He was talking about, you know,

2224
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 2: the game plan for the offense, and he says, you know,

2225
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: I'll talk to Thomas Brown and who's the other guy

2226
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 2: he mentioned, Todd down Now, Downing, we'll talk about some

2227
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 2: things and then we'll present that to Josh.

2228
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting that I think I might

2229
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 3: have missed that yeah when I stepped out to Yeah, I.

2230
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 2: Don't know if. I don't know if we can get

2231
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 2: that clip. But he said that he would talk to

2232
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Todd Downing and Thomas Brown and they would present things.

2233
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 3: He's going out of his way to create something there.

2234
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know what exactly the

2235
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 3: story is. But every time the subject of offensive coaching

2236
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 3: comes up, right, there seems to be a long way

2237
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 3: to Grandma's house that doesn't really include a direct route

2238
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 3: to Josh mctay right.

2239
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: Right, So I I that caught my ear. That caught

2240
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 2: my ear. I don't know if it caught anyone else's. Uh.

2241
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't even if, like guys back in KSP could

2242
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: get that clip and we could play that.

2243
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 3: I guess is it's going to catch the era of

2244
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 3: ear of you know my shows too, because those are

2245
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 3: kinds of drama written sure elements that they love.

2246
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: They love to infuse drama into people's comments. Hustin right, Sin.

2247
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: I just want to say, you guys are great. I

2248
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 2: enjoy the show. Would you rather have the Patriots win

2249
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: big because of great defense or win a close game

2250
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 2: where Drake leads a game winning drive. That's a good question. Actually,

2251
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 2: close game where Drake wins it on the game winning drive,

2252
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 2: or they dominate and they win big because they shut

2253
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: down the Bills.

2254
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I would rather have the Drake May.

2255
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, you don't want to see the defense like

2256
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 2: come alive and.

2257
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 3: Shut down the Bills again, as long as it's a

2258
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 3: w I don't. I'm not going to sit there and

2259
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 3: throw it away.

2260
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 2: Well, nobody is either.

2261
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 3: I think the thing that is most sustainable his offense,

2262
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 3: Drake May. If he can be that, I'll take that.

2263
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 2: But we've seen the offense starting to get better. We

2264
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 2: still have some questions on the defense. This would be

2265
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: great for this to be a defensive.

2266
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 3: Personally, I would think that myself. You asked me my opinion,

2267
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 3: I would look at it as a one off, whereas

2268
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 3: I think it's a continuation of Drake made.

2269
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 2: You can't have two off until you have a one off, Paul.

2270
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't think there's a lot of

2271
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 3: teams in the league that consistently shut down good offenses.

2272
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, I don't know anybody else.

2273
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 2: We had a big defensive game that mat me off.

2274
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 3: Like we're talking about Like earlier in the show, we

2275
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 3: had Jack and Ann Arbor tell us about how the

2276
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 3: secret to stopping America has Baltimore was X Y and Z,

2277
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 3: I see a hand raised and.

2278
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay and Baltimore.

2279
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 3: You know, the secret to stopping Baltimore was limiting to

2280
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 3: thirty points. Like that to me is that? And I

2281
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 3: agree with Jack. I think Detroit played well that night defensively, yep.

2282
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 3: That's why. Like if if they won the game like

2283
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 3: thirty eight to ten and the defense was just suffocating,

2284
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: I would say, great, it's a great win. But I

2285
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 3: don't think you can do that again.

2286
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 2: No, but it would be good that I don't know.

2287
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 3: Or if it's thirty eight thirty four and you want

2288
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 3: on a shootout because Drake May was outdueled Josh Allen,

2289
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 3: I think you could do that, But.

2290
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 2: Then we come out of that game still worried about

2291
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 2: our defense.

2292
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you is I would still be worried

2293
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 3: about the defense regardless.

2294
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 2: I know, but at least you have some.

2295
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 3: Well in the league, not the Patriots. I know, defense

2296
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 3: in general in the league is I agree that there's

2297
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 3: a lot of talk about these college gimmicky offenses are

2298
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 3: way behind, and it's hard to play the you the

2299
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 3: canfl that they the scoring is is just there on

2300
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 3: a consistent.

2301
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 2: For the record, I would take the big win with

2302
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 2: a defensive shutdown so that.

2303
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 3: I have those numbers that I was talking to you

2304
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 3: about a little a while ago about Rabel as an underdog. Yep,

2305
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 3: So I asked Mike to send me to the actual

2306
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 3: data regular and postseason games as a seven and a

2307
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 3: half point or more underdog. So that's what the Patriots are,

2308
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 3: seven and a half point underdog, seven and a half

2309
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 3: or more underdogs. Rabel was four and four as the

2310
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,839
Speaker 3: Tennessee coach. The rest of the league in that situation

2311
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 3: was sixty seven and three hundred and twenty seven for

2312
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 3: a winning percentage of seventeen percent. So the Patriots what

2313
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 3: the Titans went five hundred?

2314
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 2: What's the window that we're talking about from two thousand?

2315
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 2: Like what year twenty eighteen to twenty three? Okay, Well

2316
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: Rabel was with Tennessee. Okay, so that five years span,

2317
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 2: six six year span. Okay, that's impressive.

2318
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 3: Four and four as a seven and a half point

2319
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 3: underdog or more. This is outright, This isn't a spread.

2320
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 3: Outright four and four rest of the league sixty seven

2321
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 3: and three hundred and twenty seven for a one to

2322
01:44:54,240 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 3: seventy winning percentage. That's a big, big gap. Yeah, okay,

2323
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 3: and just as an underdog of any kind, Vrabel had

2324
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 3: the second best record in the league only to Mike

2325
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 3: tom wins winning percentage in that same time time period.

2326
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 2: Oh, let's hope that trend continues, so that we got

2327
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 2: you saying that we got a chance. Yes, okay, John

2328
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:23,600
Speaker 2: and Virginia formerly at Brockton has some trivia or not.

2329
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's trivia. It's just kind of

2330
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 2: a guessing game. Name one other player to wear the

2331
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: number twelve jersey other than Tom Brady for the Patriots.

2332
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 3: Tom Ramsey, that's one. Oh my, Matt Cavanaugh.

2333
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: That's two. I would never have guessed how many three?

2334
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Two of them? Eddie Wilson, I don't know who that is.

2335
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 2: Name five players to wear the thirty three jersey from

2336
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: eighty one to the present.

2337
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: Tony Collins that's one, Devin Falk.

2338
01:45:54,280 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Two, there's one. Where bring it right now?

2339
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 3: Oh, Anthony Jennings.

2340
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 2: Three.

2341
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 3: That was that was a prototypical Paul. I can remember

2342
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 3: the day Collins forget Anthony Jennings, Yeah, I don't really

2343
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 3: have anything.

2344
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: Juwan Williams, Jeremy Hill, Deon Lewis, Leon Washington, Sam Gash.

2345
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 3: Deon Lewis was thirty three. I should have gotten that.

2346
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 2: One, George Adams and Patrick Egu Yeah.

2347
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have gotten many of those, Sam Gash and

2348
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 3: Deon Lewis. I should have gotten.

2349
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 2: From eighty one to present name five out of the

2350
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 2: six players to wear the number eighty seven.

2351
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 3: Eighty one to the present name five players.

2352
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 2: Five out of six. So we know Grenkowski did.

2353
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lynn Dawson, Yes, Look who's back from.

2354
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: The locker room?

2355
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 4: What was the mood where the player's friendly to that?

2356
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 3: None of them looked like Tavick Henry, Hey.

2357
01:46:58,560 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Mike, what was it like.

2358
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 5: Paying like?

2359
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 2: What was it like in the I think you should

2360
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 2: come in just wearing a towel because you just came

2361
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 2: from the locker room.

2362
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 6: Right.

2363
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: We want to track listeners, not scared them away. I

2364
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: mean that's not going to be good for anybody.

2365
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 5: Hello, everyone back for the locker room and a busy

2366
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 5: day in the locker room. I would say, uh, Stefan Diggs,

2367
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,480
Speaker 5: he's been speaking every Wednesday.

2368
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: So he has good stuff to say, seemed a little

2369
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: locked in, seem a little serious stuff.

2370
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,600
Speaker 5: He did comment on that five to ten thing that

2371
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 5: he said, which I think we talked about yesterday on

2372
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 5: the show, and kind of confirm what we said.

2373
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: He said, you know, if I said eight or nine

2374
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 1: or ten, like I wouldn't be doing as much as

2375
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: I should.

2376
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 5: So he said, you know, guys know how much I'm grinding,

2377
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 5: But that's more about I feel like I've just scratched

2378
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 5: the surface of, you know, my potential in this offense.

2379
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 5: But he did say the offense is you know, can

2380
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 5: be complicated and there can be some twist to it.

2381
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 5: So but he seems excited to go back to Buffalo.

2382
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 5: Spoke highly of their fans and you know, Josh Allen

2383
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 5: and just you know, the whole program. Didn't seem like,

2384
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 5: you know, he had any you know, ill will or

2385
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 5: anything towards that. Just spoke highly of the whole operation there.

2386
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 5: Talked to Milton Williams as well, who decided to get

2387
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 5: on Prime Time, said his comment about the offensive line

2388
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 5: remind him Buffalo's offensive line reminded him of Philadelphia last year.

2389
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 5: Said they're just all I think, he said, giant humans.

2390
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 5: You know, and he said, then even Josh is back

2391
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 5: there and he's big as well.

2392
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: So that was his take.

2393
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones commented, excited and you know, spreading credit.

2394
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Around on the special teams for his return.

2395
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 5: I'm just saying usually I wrote it, and the thing

2396
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 5: I did today said, you know, I just want to

2397
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 5: get the first down. He wants to get those first

2398
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 5: ten yards and you know, try to give the offense

2399
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 5: a little bit of a boost. And then the last

2400
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 5: and was christians All was just getting ready to get

2401
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 5: up there and then take on these receivers. Not a

2402
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 5: ton to stay from him, But I thought thing I

2403
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 5: would say, Jalen Hawkins didn't seem like he.

2404
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Was gear enough to go out to practice, so he

2405
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: left the game with a hamstring.

2406
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 5: Injury, speculating a little bit he could still throw his

2407
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 5: pads on here in the last ten minutes and get

2408
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 5: out there.

2409
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 3: But that's going to get his Kyle Dugger game.

2410
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it.

2411
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 5: Could be a Kyle Duggar back in the mix at

2412
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 5: safety perhaps, So we'll see how that all that all

2413
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 5: plays out. But yeah, really busy day, like crowded, crowded, crowded,

2414
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 5: and this is becoming a thing.

2415
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Now on Wednesday, it's you know, a lot of interviews.

2416
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 3: I think it's Papa Gino's unless they didn't unless they

2417
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 3: didn't update it from last weeks.

2418
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, shoot, I forget what his name is,

2419
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 5: Nick something from w b Z, but he he was

2420
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 5: just getting all these interviews going.

2421
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: Everybody's getting in there. So it was uh, it was productive.

2422
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: It was productive. You know here from a lot of

2423
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: these guys in.

2424
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 2: Our new segment for Wednesday, eyes on Evan, Evan talking.

2425
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Evan was talking a little bit. I caught Evan

2426
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 5: talking to Milton Williams a little bit. Then I saw him,

2427
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 5: you know, go up and say lit some of.

2428
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: The Marcus Jones.

2429
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, quietly, just a.

2430
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Private private party, just the just the two of us.

2431
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 6: I know more.

2432
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 3: Uh, they're all good guys, Yeah, I know more so

2433
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 3: we can talk on a level.

2434
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 2: You don't have to dumb it down for me.

2435
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: A little bit of a shout out to to Karen

2436
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: who asked step Digs. She's like, you know, you come

2437
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,799
Speaker 1: to playing all are you comfortable playing all around the offense?

2438
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, inside outside, So she's she didn't frame it

2439
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: as like he is the slot guy. So that was good.

2440
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, he said, that's that's what makes me me.

2441
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: I can line up everywhere.

2442
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 3: And you know that is part of what makes him,

2443
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 3: uh Digs because he has been able to do that

2444
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 3: throughout his career. He's a versatile guy.

2445
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think if people realize it that, like

2446
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: if you couldn't play on the outside, that would be

2447
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 1: a very bad sign, you know, like if you can

2448
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 1: only play on the inside.

2449
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 5: He's like, you can't get all coverage anymore. Like you know,

2450
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 5: he's he's he's slowing down.

2451
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: That's uh.

2452
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 5: I mean maybe you'll get there eventually, but no good

2453
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 5: good day in the locker room though they all seem

2454
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 5: to acknowledge this is a you know, big game, big

2455
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 5: opportunity and excited to play on Sunday night football.

2456
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 3: But I worry about with that the offense in general,

2457
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 3: like how much of that is Well. They decided to

2458
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 3: do some different things with Digs on Sunday because of

2459
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 3: a specific matchup, a game plan, right, and we knew

2460
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 3: that he could beat this Mike Jackson guy, and you know,

2461
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 3: we wanted to sort of you know, matchup hunt, as

2462
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 3: Evan likes to say, you know, and they hunted the

2463
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 3: matchup and they won the matchup more often than not.

2464
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 3: But next week or you know, some other game, it

2465
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 3: might they might not feel the same way.

2466
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, my apologies whoever wrote in and reprimanded

2467
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 5: me for you know, rooing for the bills a little bit.

2468
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 3: But this really stuck with you throughout the locker room,

2469
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 3: you know.

2470
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 5: But it's just like you when you were in there, Well,

2471
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 5: you listen to the players that I'm like, they're saying

2472
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 5: the same thing we say. They're all just you know,

2473
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 5: and it really impressed with with what good players they

2474
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 5: have on this team, and especially Josh Allen. It's you know,

2475
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 5: everyone knows how good he is. I think someone of

2476
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 5: the questions like you know what makes him so good?

2477
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 5: And that someone's like just turn on the tape like everything.

2478
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. It used to bug me when you know,

2479
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 3: when your team beats another team and you spent that

2480
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 3: whole week saying how bad the other team is, how

2481
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 3: overrated they are, and I would just look at and

2482
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 3: what have you done? What if you accomplished that? I mean,

2483
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 3: you beat Josh Allen. He's a stiff. You've told me

2484
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 3: all week he was overrated. He hasn't beaten anybody all

2485
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 3: year and obviously that's not happening this week. I'm just like, no,

2486
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 3: but that would happen. Never earned the dynasty.

2487
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 2: That would happen every week.

2488
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 3: And then and then I was supposed to come in

2489
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: on Tuesday for the next show, and No, I was

2490
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 3: supposed to say how wonderful the Patriots were for shutting

2491
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 3: that said stiff down, like you told me it was

2492
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 3: going to happen. You were right. I don't know what

2493
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 3: you're so excited about now, you know.

2494
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 2: So that's why you do the Belichick way. You pump

2495
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 2: up here, but I know you.

2496
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 3: Pumping them up. No, but I'm analyzing what I thought.

2497
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: I know. But you focus on the positives for the

2498
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 2: opponent always, always before they know.

2499
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 3: But that's coach.

2500
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 4: Like the coach.

2501
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 3: Fans don't have to pump up the opponent. What I'm saying,

2502
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 3: if the fan really doesn't think Josh Allen's any good,

2503
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 3: Evan's given him too many fans, it's not a big

2504
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 3: big deal to you if they win. And I don't

2505
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 3: think there are very many fans that objectively think that

2506
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's staying. I think there's still some in the

2507
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 3: media that if push came to shove and they had

2508
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 3: to put a hand on a bible. They would tell

2509
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 3: you that I'm not gonna out anybody.

2510
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 2: I think the windows closing on the bills, and I

2511
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 2: would love it. I would love for the Patriots to

2512
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 2: be part of closing that window, slamming that way.

2513
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 3: I could totally see in like twenty twenty nine, like

2514
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's like, you know, limping out there, finally taking it,

2515
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 3: finally taking one too many hits and he's done. And

2516
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 3: Fred was like, well, I told you the window was closed.

2517
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 5: I mean that might be the most one or not

2518
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 5: the most, but one of the most impressive things to

2519
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 5: me is just with the amount of contact that he takes.

2520
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 1: I think Brabel say contact courage today.

2521
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 3: I like that that he hasn't what about route integrity.

2522
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 5: Route integrity, I don't like that one as much, but yeah,

2523
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 5: contact courage is good.

2524
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 2: So while you were going, we were talking about the

2525
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: Rabel press conference a little bit, and there was one

2526
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 2: part that kind of I noticed. Yeah, he was talking

2527
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 2: about the offensive game plan and he said that he

2528
01:53:56,240 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: will talk with Thomas Brown and Todd Down and then

2529
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 2: they'll present it to Josh.

2530
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 3: Did you catch that I didn't catch that, but that

2531
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 3: that would be Uh, I didn't catch that might have

2532
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 3: been when I stepped out.

2533
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I did not catch that. Uh you know,

2534
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: I just uh, I wish.

2535
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 2: Thatting in the offensive in this you know, kind of

2536
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 2: offensive throne. And then they come and here's what we

2537
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 2: have for this will.

2538
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 3: I do remember the manner. I do remember quite specifically

2539
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 3: in that NFL Network documentary on Belichick from the nine season,

2540
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 3: and Brady is sitting with Belichick in Belichick's office and

2541
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 3: they're going over to this, that and the other thing

2542
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 3: about and he goes, Okay, I'm gonna go uh, I'm

2543
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 3: gonna go check in with Billy. Oh like, So clearly

2544
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 3: the game plan was being discussed with Belichick and Brady

2545
01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 3: and then they went and presented it.

2546
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 2: So though it could be a similar thing.

2547
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, I don't know.

2548
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I just why didn't anyone else hear that?

2549
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2550
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna we'll check the transcript on that.

2551
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 2: But Matt Morrell, they couldn't find that clip for me.

2552
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: What's that?

2553
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 12: I have the audio, Let's play it, talk with with

2554
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 12: Todd and Thomas and get some preliminary thoughts and some

2555
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 12: things that we may like and then be able to

2556
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 12: present it to Josh as we work due to week.

2557
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 6: So you know, those guys are as involved as they

2558
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 6: always have been.

2559
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was I did I did hear that?

2560
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: Interesting? That's interesting?

2561
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 3: And I mean, I don't know, I think it's interesting.

2562
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 5: I just wish that maybe we could be a little

2563
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 5: bit more aware of the storylines and just kind of

2564
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 5: you know, Bill would used to know what the storylines

2565
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 5: were and purposely take steps to make sure you're cutting

2566
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 5: those things off of the paths.

2567
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 3: And I think it is the opposite.

2568
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do.

2569
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh soap opera, soap opera time. As the Patriots turn, well,

2570
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's you know, it could be.

2571
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it couldn't be, but I just take

2572
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 2: it just how do they do things? What's the procedure

2573
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: on getting you know, the offensive game pin. I just

2574
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 2: think it's interesting that Vrabel is part of that preliminary

2575
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 2: crew that then presents it to Josh. It's not like, okay,

2576
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 2: the crew presents it to Josh, Josh comes up to

2577
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 2: the plan and then Vrabel okays it. It seems like

2578
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 2: it's the other way around, right, you know, like now

2579
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 2: ultimately maybe still Verbel has the final say, who knows.

2580
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 2: But I just it's just to me interesting.

2581
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: Did you say Thomas and Todd does that with the Okay?

2582
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, just got down the receivers coach in the

2583
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 5: past game coordinator right right? Okay, yeah, I mean it's uh,

2584
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 5: maybe someone has to follow see exactly what the what

2585
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 5: the methodology is again, like it's another thing behind the

2586
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 5: screen that you don't really know of, you know, how

2587
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 5: are these things organized?

2588
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 2: And right? I just that's all. I just thought it

2589
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 2: was interesting. I'm not want to create a soap opera here.

2590
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 3: Do you remember what other eighty sevens I may have

2591
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 3: left out?

2592
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 2: Ben Coates?

2593
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I would have gotten to that, Okay, I closed.

2594
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 2: I came Dawson about early two thousands receiver, Yeah.

2595
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 3: David gibbons Y Mike, Mike would have jumped.

2596
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: On that one. Okay, Yeah.

2597
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a little five guys that were eighty

2598
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 3: seven between eighty one and Gronk or something like.

2599
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 2: That with six have warn him. But besides Gronk, five

2600
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 2: others who are they? Okay? Yeah, then Dawson Cots, Ben Coates,

2601
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 2: David given, David gibbons and then I closed my computers.

2602
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 3: Jack Westover counts like he changed right from eighty seven

2603
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 3: to thirty seven, he did.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

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Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. But don't worry. We'll be back tomorrow Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We've got to do picks and any preview. Paul, how

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Speaker 2: did the group do? Oh boy? As a group? How

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Speaker 2: do we do?

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Speaker 3: You just continue? It was not I'm not asking for

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Speaker 3: my It was not a good week for the entirety

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Speaker 3: of the panel. Okay, but once again, you and you

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Speaker 3: and Alex.

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Speaker 1: Was it particularly terrible for anyone, he asked squeamishly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think it might have been. Was I

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Speaker 3: was a little better this week? Oh it's still on

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Speaker 3: last week.

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Speaker 2: You'll get back.

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Speaker 3: You'll get your feet someday. Yeah, someday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a tough off season, so, like you know,

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Speaker 2: you have to get your feet under you. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: not in playing shape yet. I got issues, not been

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Speaker 2: playing shape. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you then.

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Speaker 5: everything else that we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot,