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Speaker 1: Genty said, that's how naturally feel good standing in the backfield.

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Speaker 2: So that's how I'm going to play o Jo.

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Speaker 1: We've heard by a lot of players that's played on

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's like his way.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, what does that stance have

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Speaker 1: to do with your coaches style. It's all about control

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Speaker 1: That man's been standing like there. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: Say he only took about six and now his whole career,

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: I mean the whole point of you drafting that's high

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Speaker 3: why change what makes him comfortable? That's like, you draft

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Speaker 3: him but he was very high, and try to change

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Speaker 3: him on how he's staying, Like, what are we doing coaching?

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Speaker 3: That's it? Let him, Let him do what he does.

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Speaker 3: He's not giving you any indication in which way he's

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Speaker 2: That's his South and blood.

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Speaker 1: The man, Oh Joe, you put him in a conventional stand,

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Speaker 1: How the hell he gonna see you buy?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: Put him in the downstairs? He already five six? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: At all at all. Justice just to say, just to

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Speaker 2: Oh the coach.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, Pete Carroll should have said, hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad he went back to

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Speaker 1: Right, But that's that's the look. If that's what's gonna

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Speaker 2: Oh Jo now you see oho ya you see what?

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what are they putting in all these stadiums

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Speaker 3: You know, especially an event of this magnitude, soccer is

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, unbelievable. So I understand that, I understand the players

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Speaker 1: And you know the biggest problem, but NFL games aren't

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Speaker 1: He don't do the Broncos stuff. Man, they cutting that

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Speaker 1: we gave it to a They cut the sprinklers on

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: What comes what comes of this?

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Speaker 3: Hey you understand how big were you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do?

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Speaker 1: Why you why you think everybody in America, everybody in

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Speaker 2: But the Mercedes Mercedes Benz.

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Speaker 5: Don't Atlanta, Miami, l A, Mexicansas City, and in Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: It's a few more, It's a few I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: You're going Remember I work Remember I worked with I

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Speaker 2: You can't wait for what? So what do you think

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Speaker 1: You think they go, uhh, switch the turf, or they're

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Speaker 3: Probably leave it as is because there's too it's too

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Speaker 3: much work. There's too much work on that, and and

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Speaker 2: They're trying to cut costs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my point exactly.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's gonna be interesting to see how this thing

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Speaker 1: mean because there before this field turf O Joe, you

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Speaker 3: You know what I liked about the turf though, with

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Speaker 3: I could feel every step if I like that, Not

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Speaker 1: I like grass, but you know. I mean, I like

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Speaker 1: grass on Joe. But you know what, I didn't slept

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Speaker 1: because I was a heavy planner and I made sure

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Speaker 2: Seven eight in the front.

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Speaker 1: So put your damn weight on the front of your

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Speaker 1: That's why you slipped it. That should be calm and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey. And another reason I like it is I was

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Speaker 3: I could be running the out route, you know, the outrop.

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Speaker 3: Your outright is on your seventh step, right, Yeah, step

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. Did y'all ten

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Speaker 3: I would always go. I always go from if you're

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Speaker 3: I got my right foot right.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm talking about one. You planning on your right foot.

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Speaker 3: I can do it. I could do it in one motion,

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Speaker 3: I'm getting the twelve, and I'm gonna make sure you

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Speaker 1: Oh you see? Are you are you going? Are you

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Speaker 3: No, I'm staying right down the middle. I'm staying right down.

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Speaker 2: The middle, yep.

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Speaker 3: Because if I weave, a good dude is just gonna

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give you no indication. I want

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Speaker 3: to just I'm gonna stand the straight line, get you

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Speaker 1: All right without me? You gotta get him by that

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Speaker 1: don't want you to step on their toes. They don't

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Speaker 2: It's over for the nine ball. Ay.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing you want to do is, hey, Andy, Oho,

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Speaker 2: Look at it. Runner.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't good, I ain't going d I'm playing

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Speaker 2: I had to. I had to make you move because

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Move, Oh, he he gonna drive that.

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Speaker 2: He's driving that.

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Speaker 1: And especially it all depends on your how tight you are,

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Speaker 2: Oh you want some you want some space to run

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Speaker 6: Huh uh huh keep Cleveland Browns have announced that their

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Speaker 1: When asked about getting Gabriel getting the starting job, it

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Speaker 1: was literally it literally left your door speechless. Oh, Joe,

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Speaker 1: let's take a listen to this second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me need that things we use yourself. That's

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Speaker 3: one more.

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Speaker 7: That's what what do you think you got to show

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Speaker 3: What team you say?

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Speaker 2: How much?

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Speaker 3: How much has Joe been important to both of you

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Speaker 1: Man, y'all, Oh Joe, do you like the way your

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Speaker 1: door handled this press conference.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, because whatever he says, they're gonna twist his words.

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Speaker 3: If you say nothing, you know, it's really well on

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Speaker 3: excuse me, they have thirty one other teams. Do any

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Speaker 3: of those media members talk to the third string quarterback? No, Well,

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Speaker 3: it's controversy. Why create controversy? How do you not create

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Speaker 3: it by when they ask you questions, just don't answer.

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Speaker 3: You just don't answer. If anything that you could be

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Speaker 3: talking to Joe Flack or why are you talking to

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Speaker 3: shador It makes no sense. And I like the way

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Speaker 3: make it a big deal. They going to twist his words.

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Speaker 3: They canna take it completely out of context. Listen, Dylan

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Speaker 3: gave us a starter, so be it.

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Speaker 2: For me. I mean, it's being reported.

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reported, and some other networks are starting to

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Speaker 1: report that this was his response to Rex Ryan saying

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Speaker 2: Class, and X Y and Z Okay.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I guess this was a situation where he's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I should keep my mouth shut. I'm gonna keep my

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Speaker 1: mouth shut. It's hard for me to believe that the

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Speaker 1: scenario that he didn't talk to his father. Obviously he

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Speaker 1: has been through things like this where you know, he

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't say something, it's another thing. So he

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Speaker 1: took this approach. Look, he's not just any other quarterback,

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Speaker 1: any other third third string quarterback. You and I both

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Speaker 1: know if he was any other quarterback and he slid

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Speaker 1: down where he did, we wouldn't even be having it.

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Speaker 1: If he was any normal fifth round pick, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: So we shouldn't ask ask him to act like a

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Speaker 2: We believe he is.

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Speaker 1: For me, look, if he had took it, if he

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he goes out there and plays well.

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00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 1: Joe, I feel bad for Joe, but you know, this

441
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: is this is the game of football, This is a

442
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: business and a I'm just you know, I'm happy for

443
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: Dylan and my job doesn't change. I go out there,

444
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: I prepare, uh and if my time, if my number

445
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: is called, I'm gonna go out there and give it

446
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: everything that possibly got. That's really the only thing that

447
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: he can say. Oh Joe, what what's he's What's he

448
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 1: supposed to say? Now it's a situation. I'm not you know.

449
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: We had this conversation and everybody from Cleveland jumped on me.

450
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: I said, guys, what are we doing right?

451
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: Why?

452
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: Why is Joe Flacco here? Yeah, we know fla O

453
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland, was before and then let him go.

454
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: He was in Indy and he wasn't let him get

455
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: the straight. He wasn't the answer the first time around

456
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. He wasn't the answer in Indy. He wasn't

457
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: the answer at the Jets. But now he's going to

458
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: be the answer this time around. Joe Flacco hadn't been

459
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: the answer since twenty twelve when he won them, when

460
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: he took the Ravens to the Super Bowl.

461
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: And that's it.

462
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: Go ahead, O, Joe Nigga. I don't think he I

463
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: don't think he was the answer. It was more sure

464
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: of the short term the shirt. Excuse me, the short

465
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: term answer until they're ready to see who's going to

466
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: be quarterback number two. We find out who quarterback number

467
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 3: two was, and it was only a matter of time.

468
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 3: Same thing with Russell Wilson and Jackson Dark. Russell Wilson

469
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: was the starter. He was, He was a starter for

470
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Speaker 3: for a short time, Like you said, eight weeks or

471
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: maybe after. I thought it would have been way. I

472
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: thought it had been far beyond that. But obviously we

473
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: see what happened. They made a change after week three.

474
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: Same concept. I knew, I knew he wasn't going to

475
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: be there, being there too long, and I mean, listen,

476
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel is now the quarterback. I wish him luck

477
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: and we gonna see. To me, to be honest with you,

478
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the answer. I don't think it's

479
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: the answer, and we're gonna find out. Listen, this ain't

480
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: the preseason. This ain't the preseason, and the defenses that

481
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna see now are gonna be a lot more

482
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: different than all for sure preseason. So if you can

483
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: have if he can handle the pressure, one of the

484
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: things I do like about Dylan Gabriel, and not only

485
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: can he throw the ball, he showed that he can

486
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: be efficient in the preseason, but he's also a dual threat.

487
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: He can use his legs. Slim it to Jackson Dark.

488
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Jackson Dark, but I'm just saying he

489
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: had that dual threat capability and being able to extend

490
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Speaker 3: plays and throw the ball.

491
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Speaker 1: Like if it's funny how we look at things now,

492
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston has a big personality. He's a third string quarterback.

493
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: Everybody would have lowed Jamis had he did the exact

494
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: same thing, right, I mean, think about it, O Joe. Yeah,

495
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: the funny thing that he says and the manner hysms that.

496
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: He has, Yes, this is Jameis. Yeah.

497
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Absolute, But they have a problem with should do I

498
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: don't know how Shu Door wins. If he says something,

499
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have said anything. If he doesn't say anything,

500
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: he should have said something. Until he gets on the

501
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: field and somebody can say either see I told you

502
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: he could play or I told you he couldn't play.

503
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be something, O Joe. That's just the way.

504
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: That's just the nature of what it is.

505
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, it's it's totally unfortunate too. If it

506
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: was any fifth rown pick, he wouldn't be talking about

507
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: like this, No, because this would come with that last name.

508
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, this was.

509
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: Coming with the order of being a Sanders. It just

510
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: it is what it is. Obviously, I feel the Browns

511
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: in the organization. Sefanski, obviously the owner himself came out

512
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: and said this wasn't my pick, this is not who

513
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: I wanted. So the odds are stacked against him. The

514
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: car that he dealt, he can have to do his

515
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: best job and play in the hand that he has

516
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: when that opportunity comes. If it does come, you got

517
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: to come out. You got you got to be prepared.

518
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: You got to be prepared, and when you get it,

519
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: you got to shut that door behind you.

520
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: I get it.

521
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: Look and people say, well, James proved himself what that

522
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: he's He's the journeyman quarterback. He threw thirty picks. He

523
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: was the last quarterback in the NFL since you got

524
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: to go back to Testaverdy in the eighties. Then threw

525
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: thirty interceptions. So I'm trying to figure out what did

526
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: he improved he took did he take Tampa to did

527
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: he take Tampa to the Super Bowl? Because all I

528
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: know the team that he left. Tom Brady came in

529
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: the next year and they went to the Super Bowl.

530
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, guys, you said he proved, what

531
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: did he prove if he'd approved? Guess where he'd been

532
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: on Joe not to back up in New York. Where

533
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: were your being because where where was he last year?

534
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: Joe Cleveland?

535
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: Cleveland?

536
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in New Orleans before that. Yeah, all

537
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying the personality matches, we can look

538
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: prove prove. Okay, fine, I get your point. Where he

539
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: started in the league. He was Rookie of the Year

540
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: in the league. You're absolutely correct, But I there are

541
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that's proved that could Joe Flaco

542
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: proved that he could play in the league. Joe Blackoh

543
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. He's a Super Bowl MVP. Go

544
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: look at Joe Flaco playoff numbers. I mean you would

545
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: say that Joe Flacco would have proven more, if you say, improved,

546
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: than James. I was just saying the personalities. When we

547
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: like somebody, O Jo, we'll tolerate more of their behavior

548
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: than if we don't.

549
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: See we like James James.

550
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: Funny man, y'all heard what James saying Japan's funny, James's

551
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: gonna have a career media.

552
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamie Jamis is one on one James. There there

553
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: isn't another person athlete like him. I think Schador doesn't

554
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: have that kind of personality. I think people just don't

555
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: like Chador based on the or what he comes with

556
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: the name uh Pops as well some of the things

557
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 3: Dion made have said in the past. People that like

558
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Dion's so any any ill will towards Dion and just

559
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: overflowing onto a son as well. For me, you ignore it,

560
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: especially as as as your door, you ignore it. You've

561
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: been You've been prepared for this moment. You had to

562
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: deal all your life. Now it's come to a head.

563
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: You at the last stop. You reached the pinnacle your

564
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: childhood dream of being on an NFL team. You're not

565
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: the starter, but you have an opportunity to be the starter,

566
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: and sometimes if things don't go well, you just need

567
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: to make sure you are prepared when the opportunity presents itself.

568
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: And that's pretty much it. All the noise, block all

569
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: that out, man, block all that out.

570
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: It's just unusual to see the starter get benched.

571
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: And well, I guess it's it's common because when when

572
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Russ got bnched, Jackson Dark came in the start and

573
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Russell went to the backup, right, So I guess it's

574
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: not an unusual as we might think it. Ill you're like, well,

575
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: hold on, Flaco got benched, should do it was already third.

576
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Shouldn't everybody just like move up a spot and the

577
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: guy jumps back. But that's seemingly not how they did it,

578
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: because Brian Dabas said that Jackson Dark would start the

579
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: rest of the season and Russ will serve at his

580
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: backup in James stage where jamis is. Yeah, and I don't,

581
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's common.

582
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't.

583
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't really know, Ojo, But it seemed like this

584
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: is the same thing Joe Flacco lost his job. The

585
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: guy that was backing up Joe Flacco moves to the

586
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: starter and Flako moved to number two.

587
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 2: And the third quarterbacks exactly where he was.

588
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

589
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think the thing is until Shador gets on

590
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: the field, improved or disproved.

591
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: What the ojo is fifty.

592
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to play he's two cocky, he's

593
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: too this, he does this, and he does that.

594
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: The matter rhythm.

595
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Until he's on the field, until he plays. It's the chatter.

596
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: The noise is not going to stop.

597
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: It's not it's not.

598
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: Are you muted.

599
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: Me?

600
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: He ain't said nothing. I can't hear him.

601
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: You can't hear me?

602
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: Or just me?

603
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you I'm talking to You can't hear me?

604
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 4: Not?

605
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: Hey, can you see my muscles? You see my muscles? Hey? Chat?

606
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Can you see my muscles?

607
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

608
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. You got me?

609
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: Not yeah, I got you? Go ahead.

610
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: That was me okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

611
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: I can.

612
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: But but it's it's a situation, O Joe. People want

613
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: to see him succeeded. They want to see him fail,

614
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: but they want to see him on the field. That's

615
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: when it comes That's what it comes down to, O Joe.

616
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: I want to see him on the field, and I

617
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: want to see him sink or swim. That's what it

618
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: comes down to. Because all this talk, well, he shouldn't

619
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: have been this, or he shouldn't have been that. Now

620
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna either prove a camp right or he's gonna

621
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: be proven wrong. But they want to say, Okay, we'll

622
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: see now. That's why he's led to the fifth round. Man,

623
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how y'all see how he's playing. He

624
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: should have never been in the sixth round. I mean

625
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: it's the fifth round. You don't know. I'm sure he

626
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: talked to his dad. His dad like, look, son, if

627
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: it was me, you handle it. You're your own guy,

628
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: You're your own man. But Rex said, I don't know

629
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: exactly how. I don't want to misquote, but I think

630
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: he said something to the fact, why are you talking

631
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: because it's the same situation. And here's where he's gonna

632
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: get beat up at if he doesn't go playing and

633
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't play well. Oh Joe, Remember he said he

634
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: can play better than some of the starting quarterbacks right now,

635
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: That's what got Lebron in trouble with Bronnie. Bronnie was

636
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: in high school or Bronni was in college, and he

637
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: bron said, Bronni is better than some NBA players currently.

638
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: You put a huge target.

639
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 3: Now.

640
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: I get it when you tell you know, you believe

641
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: in your son, and you should believe in your son.

642
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: But when you put it out there like that, Ojo, man,

643
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: you're you're you're asking you're asking for a lot of criticism.

644
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Should we be surprised that he's the he was name starter.

645
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: No, I mean, he was a number two. It shouldn't

646
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: be a surprise at all. You shouldn't be a surprised

647
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: at all he was. He Listen, mister Fancy came out

648
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: before the season started and said that Dylan Gabriel will

649
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 3: be the number two quarterback. I mean, that's what it is.

650
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: That's what it is. So we knew that whatever point

651
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: things weren't going well for Flaco, Dylan Gabriel will be

652
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: the next man up. Now things don't go well with

653
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, I don't know what's gonna happen from that point.

654
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: On that that feet, that's where I was going next.

655
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: You're right, Ojo, because it was reported that Gabriel was

656
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: getting first team reps along with Flacco its earliest training camp.

657
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: So he was getting first team reps. Flacco was getting

658
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: first team reps. And who's the court of the.

659
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: Quarterback, uh damn from.

660
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: The Steelers Kenny Pickett, Yeah, Kenny, yeah, Picket. So those

661
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: guys were getting first team reps. Shoulder wasn't getting those reps.

662
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: So I agree, we shouldn't be surprised. The question that

663
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: I have for you if Gabriel struggles, now, what do

664
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: we do? Do they go back to black or they say, oh,

665
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: do they give your door an opportunity?

666
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: You know what.

667
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. And knowing the game, understanding the business

668
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: and knowing how the business works, I think they will

669
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: probably go back to Flacco. I think they would go

670
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: back to flack On if things don't work out again

671
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: and Flacco is still not successful when he returns back

672
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: to the field, then I think Shadu will get his

673
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: shot somewhere on the back half of the season.

674
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, let me ask you a question. Talk to me.

675
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: If you think Shauder knew what he knew now, you

676
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: think he goes back to Colorado boards last year.

677
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: If he knew what he knows now, if he knows

678
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: what he knows.

679
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 8: Now hindsight, Yeah, probably so. Probably so I think so too,

680
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 8: I would think. But there's no possible way. There's no

681
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 8: possible way, Ojo. There is not a scenario that anybody thought. Okay,

682
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 8: let's just say, O Joe, he's not the first pick,

683
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 8: he's not a top five, he's not a top ten.

684
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Let's just say you know what, oo, because you're not

685
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: having this conversation. Yeah, let's just say that he's not

686
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Thirty two players gonna be selected

687
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: in the first round, right, Ain't no way he thought

688
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: he'd be a fifth round draft pick.

689
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, absolutely not not no. And some people

690
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: listen to some people to say, well, he wasn't that good.

691
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: He was mad, he would listen. He can play the

692
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: quarterback position. He can play the quarterback position.

693
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: He does.

694
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: He's not a dual threat, but what he lacks in

695
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: his ability to run the ball he makes up in

696
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: other areas. He has other intangibles that makes him a

697
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: quality quarterback where he should get an opportunity to start

698
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: on an NFL team. And until he gets the opportunity

699
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: to approve he can do just that, we're gonna have

700
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 3: to wait and see.

701
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: He should apply for a hardship for COVID. I would say,

702
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: I would say I would to go back and play.

703
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, there's really like no way to

704
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: really know. I mean, hell, I didn't somebody would have

705
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: told me I was gonna be a self ride draft pick.

706
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: I say, you ought your damn mind. Yeah, yeah, I was.

707
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: The number I was the number one rated, one of

708
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: the number one rated players below Division one. So I'm like, Okay,

709
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna go to the first round, but somebody

710
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: tell me I'm gonna be I'm not gonna be a

711
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: top third round, a top three round pick.

712
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: Man.

713
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: Please let me let me tell you something. You've been

714
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: around a long time. I've been around long enough to

715
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: understand that business and how that business worst. Yeah, anything

716
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: they don't like about you before you get there, they

717
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: will find a way to humble you. They will find

718
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: him to humble you. And when your opportunity does present itself,

719
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: or you gotta knock that goddamn though down and close

720
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: it behind you, because you're not gonna get very many opportunities,

721
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: especially if they don't like you.

722
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: I would have, yeah, I would have. I agree with you, Ochoe,

723
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: because my brother used to tell me all the time.

724
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: I said, man, you know I've been training camp, Ojoe.

725
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

726
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, man, i ain't getting no reugh today,

727
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: or I'll be in practice. You know, once I made

728
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: a team, he said, don't worry about it.

729
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: He said.

730
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: One day, John Elwire gonna call on you, he say,

731
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: just make sure when he called your number.

732
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: Ready, Gotta be ready, he said.

733
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: And and I think The thing.

734
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: That really helped me, O Joe, is that he told me.

735
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: He said, t you can, you could, you could be

736
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: good in this league. He said, there ain't a whole

737
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: lot of he ain't a whole lot of can do

738
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: what you do now, he said, just keep working, you know,

739
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: just keep working hard. I don't know why that man

740
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: took a liking to me. I don't know, Joe, I

741
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I mean for him and Gary

742
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Kubiak Koubiak. Cool was the backup when I was different.

743
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: When I first got there in ninety ninety one. Hey,

744
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Cool used to pull me to the side. Now that's

745
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: when you know somebody really take a liking to you.

746
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: He pulled me to the side, he say, he would

747
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: show me. He say, hey, now you're gonna be here

748
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: on this, this and this. You know what you got Now,

749
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in this coverage you run this, You're

750
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: gonna be on that coverage you run that. Oh Joe,

751
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I'll I'll be out there doing like I'm doing that,

752
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: like okay, good job, good job shop.

753
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: Hey you know what else?

754
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: You know they'd be like, oh, oh Joe, they be like,

755
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: good job shop. That's what I'm talking about. That's what

756
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Getting your playbook, man cool told me everything.

757
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: You know what else, when I think about it, when

758
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: I think about some of the things the fancy said,

759
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: when I think about some of the things the owner said,

760
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: they baiting me to a little bit too. They bait me.

761
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: When you go to the Army, when you go to

762
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: the Marines, when you go to the Navy, any of

763
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: those places where it's a structuring environment, what's the one

764
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: thing they try to do to make sure to see

765
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 3: if you're if you're ready, or you're worthy.

766
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: But they're gonna try to break you down.

767
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: Trying to break you. They're trying to theyre trying to

768
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: break you. He cannot break, you cannot fold, you cannot

769
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: last out.

770
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: Hell, No, I can come there for hell now can do.

771
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: None of that. You got to stay the course. You

772
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: got to stay the course and focus on the end

773
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: goal and prepare for that opportunity because it's gonna come. Yeah,

774
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: It's definitely gonna come.

775
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Man O Joe, Look, I'm gonna share this story with you.

776
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: I've I won't shared it one time, and I shared

777
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: it with when I spoke at Coach Reeve's funeral. I

778
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: was the only His wife called me and ask would

779
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I speak? Now, you got to realize all the people

780
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: that he played with. Coach Reeves played the league, he

781
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: played on the coach Landry, all the coaches he coached.

782
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: He was off of the coordinated with the Cowboys. He

783
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: was the head coat to the Broncos. He was the

784
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants. He was the head coach

785
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: of the Falcons. He asked me to She asked me

786
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to speak. I didn't know until like she told me,

787
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: but she said channel would be a huge honor if

788
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: you were to speak at Dan. I was like, I'm like,

789
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: are you sure? Like She's like, I'm sure. She said, Shannon,

790
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: you was always his favorite. He said you worked so hard.

791
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: He'd said he saw how you came in and what

792
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: you worked and turned yourself into. He was just so proud.

793
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he would be honored if you spoke,

794
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh Jo. Every Sunday, Coach Reeves would ask seven or

795
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: eight of us what we had on a certain plate.

796
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: God hones truth. Every time he would call on me,

797
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: he would already have sawt me. He would tell me

798
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: he was step out in the hall. He would tell me,

799
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you this, this is what you

800
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: need to say, said like this, and I'm like, why

801
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: he ain't doing that for nobody else?

802
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: He's not. That's why it hurt me so bad. O Joe.

803
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: When he got fired, I said, had I became because

804
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: he got fired to year I made my first Pro Bowl,

805
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: I led the team and receive it.

806
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: It hurt me so bad.

807
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: I said, if I had only become what I later

808
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: became in ninety three through ninety eight, ain't no way

809
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: coach reeves get fired.

810
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: So that's why it hurt me. Because he invested so

811
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: much in me.

812
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: He believed in me, he did, he drafted me, somehow

813
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: lost this damn mind and forgot to cut me. And

814
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: for him, John and Cool and coach reeve to take

815
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: that kind of time, I promise you. And I don't know,

816
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: you don't quote me on this. It's hard for me

817
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: to believe that a head coach is taking that kind

818
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: of interest in a seventh round draft pick in today's game.

819
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe John Elway the number

820
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: one pick in the nineteen eighty three draft, or he

821
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: was a pro bowler, he was an All Pro, he

822
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: was an MVV had gone to three Super Bowls. It's

823
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: taking that kind of liking in a seventh round draft pick.

824
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: Gary Kobak, who is the backup, is taking that kind

825
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: of liking. Oh, Joe, I ain't have no choice. It's

826
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: like my grandmother when she put when she took my

827
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: mom's three in after raising hers. I ain't have no choice.

828
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh Yo, How could I let these people down that

829
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: had invested so much in me, that believed in me?

830
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: How I couldn't.

831
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Man, I got in a playbook. Hey, every night I'm

832
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: going home, I said, I'm gonna know everything. It became

833
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: second nature. It became I knew, I knew what I

834
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: had to do. It's hard to check this out on Yeah,

835
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: the tight end is normally.

836
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: Uh why Yeah?

837
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: And Dan's offense, he's ex x yes, because coach Landry

838
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: was a defensive coordinator. So everything is backwards. One three

839
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: five is to the right, two four.

840
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Six eight is to the left. Yes, So if it's backwards,

841
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: that's not Z that's a wing X why.

842
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Wing three hy dig tight end is the x O

843
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: choe tight end? Ben why his whole life? Two four

844
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: six say you've been to the right, your whole life

845
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: one three, five sevent is to the LEFTO. Now you

846
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: got verbage, Oh Joe, I came from the round tree

847
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: six five, three to seven.

848
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: But what you mean.

849
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: Fifty two doubles slang is special? What I got?

850
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard nothing like that. Oh man, geez,

851
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: my mind was with spinning, Ojoe. I just want to

852
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: know what is it gonna take. What do you believe

853
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: it will take for your dor to get an opportunity

854
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: to start this season? Because this is because if he

855
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: doesn't start this season, Oh Joe, the whole purpose of

856
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: him not going to Baltimore, And it's reported that there

857
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: were another team the Eagles also thought about selecting him.

858
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: He said, no, I don't want to play behind her.

859
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

860
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't that he didn't want to play behind guys

861
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: like that. But you talk about a guy like James

862
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Hurst is very doable. He doesn't miss time, Lamar.

863
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: You're not seeing the field. You're not seeing the field

864
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: at old places. Now the opportunity to play what happens.

865
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: If he doesn't see the field this year for Cleveland.

866
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's one I don't know, and that's what

867
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm not understanding, but if he doesn't see the field

868
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: this year for Cleveland being at there. They have shortcomings

869
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: with Flaco and they have shortcomings with Dylan Gabriel, then

870
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: that's my practice on ownership. It might be a point

871
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: we have no choice but to put him in there,

872
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: because not only is the team gonna call for him,

873
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: the fans in the media gonna call for him as well.

874
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: I definitely think the fans gonna be calling for if

875
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Gabriel doesn't play well, right, I mean, look, just don't

876
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: turn the ball over.

877
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Just don't just keep your defense off the field for

878
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: damn for thirty five forty minutes.

879
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to be a world beater, but

880
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: if you can give your defense, or if you can

881
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: score enough and keep the defense off the field, but

882
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: they're not playing thirty five forty minutes, you got to

883
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: you gonna have a chance. Yeah, you're gonna have a

884
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: chance to defense plenty good enough, but not if you

885
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: wear them down. Yep, So we'll see. Oh Joe Dnni

886
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: Gabriel made an interesting comment yesterday when talking about becoming

887
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Brown's new queak QB one.

888
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what Gabriel had to say.

889
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: I smile because it's like a moment you prep for

890
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 4: and you are extremely excited for, but also got to

891
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: realize that it's extreme focus. And that's what I've continued

892
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: to harp on. But you wait for the perfect time,

893
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: you know you're gonna wait a whole lifetime. So for me,

894
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: I'm just I've always been ready for every moment.

895
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: Wait for the perfect time. You'll be waiting a lifetime.

896
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: I like that because when you're doing good moments and opportunities,

897
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: sometimes the ideal situation is never perfect.

898
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: Hm hmm.

899
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: It's never perfect. The ideal situation that you envisioned ahead

900
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: to get the opportunity, it never going to be how

901
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: you envision it. And that's exactly what it is. Sometimes

902
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: their adversity, sometimes they are obstacles that you have to

903
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: climb to get said opportunities.

904
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

905
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 3: And for him, it hasn't been perfect. Hey man, my life,

906
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: My life just went out.

907
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he was talking about him waiting a lifetime.

908
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: The reports didn't come out that he's told the team

909
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: not to draft him.

910
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: I don't, Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't, I don't.

911
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't coincide, But he said and having to do

912
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: anything with with twelve.

913
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: I don't.

914
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's hard to even No, not even close,

915
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: not even close. Nah, not even close. That's in a

916
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: sense that would be reached, that would be almost be

917
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: reaching a little bit. That that's to me.

918
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: No.

919
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: So, but I'm trying to figure out how why would

920
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: he say, if you wait for the perfect time, you

921
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: have to wait a lifetime.

922
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, come on, and I just ask you listen, we can't,

923
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: we can't. That's his words. That's that's what he came

924
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: up with. That might be a sandy I don't know.

925
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I still don't. I don't coincide

926
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: what he's saying and having to do anything.

927
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: But it should do it. I look, is it ever

928
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: gonna be perfect?

929
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: On?

930
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: Yo?

931
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, all things being equal, you like for the

932
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: Dolphins to draft you all things is like, man, let

933
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: me go home.

934
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: I want to play for the.

935
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins, or I want to go play with somebody got

936
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback, YadA, YadA, YadA.

937
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: Look, and I get it.

938
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are different because normally you get a quarterback and

939
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: he's good, he gonna be there for a period of time,

940
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: and you got the you know, you got to.

941
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: Wait and hope everything happened. I mean I did. Let

942
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: me ask you a question.

943
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: Ideally, yeah, you think Tom Brady and give him the

944
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: choice wanted to go to New England after they had

945
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: just given made Drew bleded So the highest paid quarterback

946
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He had just signed a six year one.

947
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: You think that was the ideal situation for Tom blood Brady.

948
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

949
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: What happened.

950
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: He got hurt, Drew got hurt, she got hurt. And

951
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: guess what happened was an ideal situation and it wasn't perfect.

952
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: He made an idea bingo and the same thing. Same

953
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco's not playing well. Not the ideal situation, because

954
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: maybe the ideal situation is I've drafted the third round

955
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: and I beat Joe Flacko out in training camp and

956
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm the start of week one. That's the ideal, perfect situation.

957
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't believe there.

958
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe there was gonna let anybody look, if

959
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: it's been reported they wanted Kenny Pickett to win the

960
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: job and Gabriel b Seca should do it be third.

961
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't ever think there was gonna be a situation.

962
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, that a rookie was gonna beat Joe FLACKO out.

963
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

964
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 3: I didn't either, based on I didn't either. But again,

965
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: the way to go on who you start with. You

966
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: start with the veteran who has experience, and when the

967
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: bottom falls out, then you make a change. The bottom

968
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: fell out. They made a change, right, man.

969
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Should a guy could have told him the bottle was

970
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: gonna fall out. Yeah, at some point the bucket was rusty. Anyway,

971
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: you talked about the bottom fell out there, the bucket rusty,

972
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: But then you think it was gonna happen to the bottom. Look,

973
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Shoudor needed to make

974
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: the best decision for him. You might not agree with

975
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: what he did. He should just be happy that somebody

976
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: was gonna take him X, Y and Z.

977
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: I get it on you. I get all I do.

978
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: I honestly get all of that because normally when we

979
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: come out, O Joe were just happy to get drafted.

980
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: Really I am.

981
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get careing about it, man, the big really,

982
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Patriots, the Colts, anybody could have drafted me.

983
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: I got drafted to the NFL. That was the start

984
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: of the journey. Yeah, I mean sometimes people get drafted.

985
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh they said, oh yeah, no, bro, your journey just started.

986
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: You ain't never been to the NFL. I don't know

987
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: if your My My dream was not to just get

988
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: was not to be drafted. My dream was get to

989
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: the NFL and play. Being drafted is just half the process.

990
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.

991
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: Also, you have to think, now, let let's let's let's

992
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: let's let's let's use a little my chances. If I'm

993
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: sure doer, I don't want to go to Baltimore. You

994
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: ain't finna see the field. You're not seeing the field

995
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: for the next ten one, two, three, four, five fifty,

996
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: the next ten eleven years. It's gonna be Amar Jackson show.

997
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: I know a guy that went to New England when

998
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was at his APEX, named Jimmy Garoppolo. Played

999
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: a few games, played good enough, and then what happened

1000
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: on Yo, Tell the people at home that don't know

1001
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: that wasn't around when Jimmy Garoppolo got drafted to the

1002
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: New England Patriots and Tom Brady got suspended. Cause we

1003
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: never know because there's only been one omnipotent one. Yeah,

1004
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: be all knowing, Yes, Tell the people at home. What

1005
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: happened Jimmy Garoppolo got drafted to the New England Patriots.

1006
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: There's an unperceived that we couldnt have possibly known. Tell

1007
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: the people, I want you to take the store over

1008
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: from there.

1009
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: Hold on, I forgot the story. You got to bring

1010
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 3: me up to speed.

1011
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo gets drafted to the New England Patriots. Tom

1012
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: Brady gets suspended for four games. Jimmy Garoppolo played well

1013
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: enough to say, guess what happened, O Joe? Yeah, Farty

1014
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: nine Ers traded a second round pick to get Jimmy

1015
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: g Okay. Now Lamar Jackson is hurt. If your George

1016
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Sanders is there, guess who's gonna get in the game

1017
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: right now?

1018
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: O Choe, she do it, Sanders.

1019
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: If you play well enough, because you know you're not

1020
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna keep the job from Lamar Jackson, you play well enough,

1021
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: guess what happens, oh Choe?

1022
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: Tell the people what could possible happen?

1023
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? You could probably get traded somebody willing to give

1024
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: up picks for him.

1025
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: Tada, and you get you get to a situation that

1026
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: you always wanted because you go ahead.

1027
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: Or the cars that you're with depth, I'm gonna take

1028
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: my chances going somewhere else. I'm gonna take my chances going.

1029
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: But let me stay with me.

1030
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: Now, I'm with you.

1031
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take my chances going somewhere else where. The

1032
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: odds stacked against me, those obstacles and those hurdles, that

1033
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: adversity that I've always had to overcome in life, I'm

1034
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna do it the hard way, I guess,

1035
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: and wait my turn. Because what he's gonna get his opportunity?

1036
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: You guess what else is stacked against you? What's that

1037
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: the talent in Cleveland versus the talent in Baltimore. Yeah,

1038
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: because when Jimmy Garoppolo went to New England, Guess who

1039
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: you're throwing to? Danny Avindola. Guess who helped Julian Edelman? Yes,

1040
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: who helped Rob Gronkowski. Guess who he would be handing

1041
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: the ball off to.

1042
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: Jack Henry.

1043
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: Guess who he'd be throwing to Mark Andrews. Guess who else?

1044
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman. Guess who else? May Flowers?

1045
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: Eight flowers?

1046
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: Oh, now, let me ask you another question.

1047
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Who would you rather be throwing the ball to the

1048
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: guys in Cleveland or the guys in Baltimore, Who would

1049
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: you rather hand the ball off to dar hear me

1050
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: or the guy in Cleveland.

1051
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: I'm just asking. I don't know. I mean, you might

1052
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: like I hear you, I hear you.

1053
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: It sound good, that would be the ideal situation. But

1054
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 3: what did what did Dylan Gabriel just say? I don't

1055
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: have the ideal situation. The situation I mean was not perfect.

1056
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 3: But when the opportunity can hold on, hold up? Can

1057
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 3: we rewrite that and play that again? Can we rewright?

1058
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 4: Because it's like a moment you prep for and you

1059
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: are extremely excited for, but also got to realize that

1060
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: it's extreme focus. And that's what I've continued to harp on.

1061
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: But you wait for the perfect time, you know you're

1062
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: gonna wait a whole lifetime. So for me, I'm just

1063
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 4: I've always been ready for every moment.

1064
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: If you wait for the perfect time, so I'm sure do.

1065
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 3: And I'm in Baltimore, so I'm waiting on Lamar to

1066
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: get hurt, because that's what.

1067
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: You waiting for. In what you're waiting for in Cleveland,

1068
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: you waiting for Joe Flack or to mess up.

1069
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: So either way, whichever place you go to, you're still

1070
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: waiting on the perfect time, You still waiting on the

1071
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: ideal situation where you can get in there and do

1072
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: what you do regardless to what's surrounding you. You still

1073
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: got to do what you got to do right. And

1074
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: for one, you know what you know it's funny is

1075
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: you can focus on what's around you. You can only

1076
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: focus on what you need to do right. To do

1077
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: what you need to do, regardless of whether you have

1078
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: a great supporting cast or not, whether I got Derek

1079
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: Herry or not, whether I got Dave Flowers or I

1080
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: got goddamn God damn Derek Henry in the background. I

1081
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 3: got to do what I got to do. And handing

1082
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: the ball off the Justkins Junkins, right, Junkins, Night Junkins, Yeah, Junkins.

1083
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: I got to get the ball to Jerry Jerry Judy.

1084
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: I got to get the ball to Unjoku whatever. I

1085
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: got to work with that hand I got, Well, when

1086
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 3: you play black jack, they kill your hand, right, I'm

1087
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 3: trying to beat the dealer.

1088
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: That's it.

1089
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: I got to work with what I got.

1090
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: I guess I got, man, you gave me fourteen. I

1091
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: guess what you got, you got a nine.

1092
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: I got to hit it.

1093
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Hey, that's the beautiful Hey, that's the beautiful thing about

1094
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: life though, hungh that it is. Think about life, right.

1095
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: We all envision getting the perfect hand, but sometimes the

1096
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: car that God dealers they ain't perfect. But he ain't

1097
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: gonna give us twenty one every time.

1098
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: No, And sometimes you might have twenty one and the

1099
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: dealer got twenty one and you'd be like, and you

1100
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: didn't take no insurance out.

1101
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: Hey, it's not that it's a push.

1102
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Or you got to Oh you're like, oh, yeah, I

1103
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: got twenty and then he flip over black jack. So

1104
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: you're right, there are there are no Look, there are

1105
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: no perfect scenarios.

1106
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: We make whatever it is.

1107
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: We make the best out because there have been times

1108
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: a you got a you got a you got hen,

1109
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: you get three, you get a five, you get another three.

1110
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: Twenty one?

1111
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, damn, I don't know how I got I

1112
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know how I made that hand. Yeah, And that's

1113
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: what you're doing is gonna have to do. Okay, he's

1114
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait a couple more weeks.

1115
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: Uh uh.

1116
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 1: Bill and Gabriel is in there now, and they're gonna

1117
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: give it. They're gonna give him, you know, three to

1118
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: five weeks.

1119
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, this I hope. I hope he does well.

1120
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: I do too.

1121
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Look I could, I couldn't wish bad on Joe. I've

1122
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: been in that situation. No, Joe, I was the third

1123
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: hold on clans k orson Berger. I was a four

1124
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: tight end.

1125
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: O Joe got four. Every tight end on the roster

1126
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: got hurt.

1127
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: Hold On, you was four fourth. First of all, I

1128
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: was first of all, I was a receive. I was

1129
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: the fifth receiver. So this one, I was the fifth receiver. Yes, Phil,

1130
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: and you are sorry. Hey, I was a special team

1131
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: man on special teams, do Joe.

1132
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: That's not my job.

1133
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, give them a good look at practice, right,

1134
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: special teams go down there and do what I need

1135
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, how everybody? All the tight ends get hurt. Yeah,

1136
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest wide receiver. But at that point in time,

1137
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: on Joe, I'm already down.

1138
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 4: I came in.

1139
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: I weighed two twenty one by that time, I'm like,

1140
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: to twelve, what tight end? You? What wide receiver?

1141
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 4: You know?

1142
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: Oh?

1143
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: Yo can go play tighty even in today's game when

1144
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: they don't really block like that, and to twelve it.

1145
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: Is very undersized. Hell, I did ship when I came

1146
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: in twelve.

1147
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: So it was a situation like and when Daddy send

1148
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: for me to come talk to dam and I think

1149
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get cut and coach call you. They say, hey,

1150
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: Dan want to see you in his office and you

1151
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: just had a meeting.

1152
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: What's the matter.

1153
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell what I'm gonna tell Libby what I'm

1154
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: gonna tell Damn. Everybody their back and just oho everything

1155
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: going through my Hey.

1156
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that I know them ends and back

1157
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: home will be Yeah, I told you I know he

1158
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: was gonna last long. How he could tell I was nervous,

1159
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: so Joe, I'm I said, coach, Hey, Shannon, come on in.

1160
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: No, I'm good. I can hear you out here. Hey

1161
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: he said, uh, he said, uh, what do you think

1162
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: about switching positions? Uh?

1163
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: Thinking about moving the tight end? I said, okay, he

1164
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: said uh. I said, you're gonna throw me the ball.

1165
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you know you gotta learn to play,

1166
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, we'll get We'll get you the ball. I said, okay, O,

1167
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: your heart your my heart were beating so fast. So hey,

1168
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: now I ain't any why I receive with meeting with

1169
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: the tight end.

1170
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: Tight ends, Yeah, and just like that.

1171
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: Halfway through the season Boom as an interview, Oyoe, when

1172
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: you were five and eleven that year, he say, hey, coach,

1173
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: coach retail. I go to his office. He said, you

1174
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: did really good, but hey, need you to get a

1175
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: little stronger, put a little weight on. Hey, we think

1176
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: you could be really good. We think you can be

1177
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: really good. Like man, I was okay, bad oh jo bad?

1178
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: I hit the wait.

1179
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 3: Man.

1180
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: So that's what a your door. I don't know when

1181
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: this opportunity is going to present itself.

1182
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: When it presents itself, and I'm sure your father has

1183
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: told you this, when the opportunity presents itself. Sometimes, when

1184
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself, Oh Joe, grumblers complain about the noise.

1185
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. Seize the moment.

1186
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: Bro, What that was you said, opportunity when it knocks.

1187
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: Grumbler complains about the noise. Man, that's opportunity gone, worry

1188
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: about it. Hold on you a Sanders, realize that hang

1189
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: your hat on that. All these fails go back.

1190
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: Who am I?

1191
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: What am I? How did I become this? Where did

1192
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: I come from? Hey?

1193
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: Boy, that was a good one there brought When opportunity

1194
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: presents itselves brumbles.

1195
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: An opportunity knocks.

1196
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, knock knock, knock, knock, knock.

1197
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: Who knocking on my door? What you want? That was

1198
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: opportunity knock it. You're complaining about the noise.

1199
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: M who. That's tough on. Hey, that's like a battle

1200
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: wrap bar right there. Mm hmmm. I'm gonna use that.

1201
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use yeah,