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Speaker 1: Let's honor the fallen. Let's talk about tariffs. Meghan Kelly

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Speaker 1: is here with an announcement. Robbie Starbuck is here with

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Speaker 1: an announcement.

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Speaker 2: What a show tonight. But I'm right now, all right.

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Speaker 1: So before we get into all the tariff arguments and

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Speaker 1: the markets and Trump and all that other stuff, that'll well,

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Speaker 1: it'll be a good time. I'm sure I'll offend everybody there.

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Speaker 1: Let's do something that we have to do on this show.

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Speaker 1: We hate it, but we feel obligated to do it

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Speaker 1: to honor the fallen, especially the fallen in training.

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Speaker 3: It's a big thing for me.

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Speaker 1: It always has been, it always will be. When people

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Speaker 1: die in military service or law enforcement fire.

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Speaker 3: You know, these dangerous jobs.

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Speaker 1: They're dangerous jobs, and training for these jobs is dangerous

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Speaker 1: by necessity. It has to be dangerous, otherwise you can't

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Speaker 1: train properly. And people die and train, and they're oftentimes

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Speaker 1: forgotten and disregarded because it's not glorious. You didn't die

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Speaker 1: in battle, but it's every bit as heroic as the

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Speaker 1: one who did. They serve their country in a dangerous

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Speaker 1: job and they gave their lives. Last week, four US

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Speaker 1: Army soldiers died during a training exercise in Lithuania. We

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Speaker 1: were waiting, as we do until their names were finally

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Speaker 1: released so we can honor them by name. They are

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Speaker 1: a staff Sergeant Jose Duenes, Junior staff Sergeant Van F. Franco,

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Speaker 1: and Collins. The oldest is twenty eight, youngest was twenty one.

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Speaker 1: They gave their lives for this country. And I've had

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Speaker 1: people email in because they knew we were going to

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Speaker 1: And I did have some people asking how can this happen?

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Speaker 1: Because they were part of an armored group. Armored you

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Speaker 1: would think of it as tanks, but not all armor

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Speaker 1: is tanks either way, an armored vehicle and they ended

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Speaker 1: up submerged in a swamp. They drown, They drown with

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Speaker 1: they don't realize how easy this can happen. You see,

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Speaker 1: when you see a tank, we'll make it about a tank.

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Speaker 1: When you see a tank, you see this big, powerful machine,

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Speaker 1: all this armor on it and It is really great, right,

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Speaker 1: it has all this firepower and the guns, and of

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Speaker 1: tank and all that stuff is true, but all that

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Speaker 1: stuff comes with a sacrifice. Everything is a given tank,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. You can't see. You just can't see. Having

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Speaker 1: oftentimes we would bust the hatches open, the the door

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Speaker 3: You can't see.

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Speaker 1: The driver can't see, You can't see. And that's just

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Speaker 1: So we honor them, pray for them, pray for their families.

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Speaker 1: All right, All right, now, let's talk about something else.

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Speaker 1: Showing the tariffs. It's all anybody can talk about the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: This the tariffstat I am currently fielding more phone calls

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Speaker 1: and text messages from friends, and you can possibly imagine.

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Speaker 1: I actually had a conversation with a friend. On Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I got with a bunch of neighbor

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Speaker 1: jump me, Jesse, what's going on with the tariffs, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I checked my app. We're losing all this money, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: This so I know what you're going through. And Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is talking about it'll be painful for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Em in the market.

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Speaker 1: At some point, you're unwilling to tolerate this idea of

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Speaker 1: a Trump put is they're a threshold.

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Speaker 4: I think your question should have said stupid.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a I don't want anything

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Speaker 5: to fix something. And we have such a horrible We

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Speaker 5: They moved into Mexico, they moved it too Canada, and

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Speaker 4: We're not going to do it now.

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Speaker 5: We have hundreds of billions of dollars is pouring into

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Speaker 1: Okay, what I'm about to say is we have a

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Speaker 1: little tariff talk. It may make you feel better, it

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Speaker 3: You may get mad at me. That's a standard day anyway.

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Speaker 3: So here's what it is.

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Speaker 1: First, what did I tell you when Donald Trump first

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Speaker 3: He got elected.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump intends to do big things, big things. He

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Speaker 1: got shot in the head. This is his last four years.

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Speaker 1: He can't run for re election. He's a billionaire, former

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Speaker 3: Guys like that.

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Speaker 1: Guys like that, they don't look at their lives and

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Speaker 1: their legacy the same way you or I necessarily do

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Speaker 1: you know what kind.

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Speaker 3: Of legacy am I going to leave behind?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think about my sons. Right, are my sons going

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Speaker 1: What am I going to leave behind? Guys like Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump think about what monuments are going to be named

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Speaker 1: They just don't. They look at life differently. And Trump's

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Speaker 1: big things, which he's dead serious about. I've told you

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Speaker 1: whether you love them or hate them, Donald Trump is dead,

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Speaker 1: dead serious about them. And look, we've got guys like

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Speaker 1: Lutnick out there talking about, well they're negotiating. Fifty percent

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Speaker 3: Some of it doesn't even matter.

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Speaker 5: But I do want to solve the deficit problem that

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Speaker 5: But otherwise, why would I want to talk?

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Speaker 3: You serious? So he means it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, let's go with this from kind of a

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Speaker 1: different angle than maybe you've heard. I understand there are

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Speaker 3: The people who are thrilled about them.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's you will talk about things like bringing back manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: They're correct about that. We need to bring back manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: They're correct about that goal. We need to bring back manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: You have to make things in your country. Not everything,

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Speaker 1: but your country has to have the ability to make

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Speaker 1: of others, and that's not good. Okay, So that's good.

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Speaker 1: The people who love tariffs, they're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: I've lived it. That's my life.

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Speaker 1: I was born in a rust belt town on the

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Speaker 3: That's where the men work.

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Speaker 1: That's where oftentimes the women work. The businesses around that

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Speaker 1: The town was the plant. That's how what your dad did,

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Speaker 1: but it was the same thing, the power plant. Everyone

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Speaker 1: just the plant that goes. The town goes. The future

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Speaker 1: of a lot of people go. And the people who

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Speaker 1: are pro tariffs who talk about that are one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent correct. It's been devastating. They should not be ignored.

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Speaker 1: We can't become a country with no steel but a

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Speaker 1: So the pro teariff people are like that, don't worry

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Speaker 3: I'm going to come back to you in a moment. Now.

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Speaker 1: The anti tariff people they make great points too, as

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, great points. They say things like, well,

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Speaker 1: you can't bring back manufacturing just with tariffs. You have

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Speaker 1: to make the business environment the labor environment better here.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to remove all that red tape? Is

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Speaker 3: that our plan? That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: We have a terrible, terrible environment for the manufacturing sector now,

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Speaker 1: a terrible business environment. That's why they move to places

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Speaker 1: They packed up that business and shipped it overseas because

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. So that's that. Now.

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Speaker 1: As far as the pro tear of people, remember John

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Speaker 1: Carney came on the show, we talked about this.

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Speaker 4: I do think it will help on a longer term basis,

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Speaker 4: not immediately. Do you think there will be some price increases.

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Speaker 4: don't think they're gonna we won't see anything like what

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Speaker 4: up to nine percent. But I do think we'll see

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Speaker 4: a half point of extra inflation. I don't think that lasts.

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Speaker 4: So In other words, we'll get a one time price

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Speaker 4: of the teriff will get passed through to consumers, and

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Speaker 4: once that comes through, you won't get year after year

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Speaker 4: after year of price. So I think we'll have a

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Speaker 4: one time adjustment. But further on down the road, as

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Speaker 4: the United States, when we are able to move trade

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Speaker 4: reliable supply chains. We're going to be safer and more

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Speaker 4: secure economically because of what we're doing today.

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Speaker 1: for the Trump administration saying I hope that's the case.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna put tariffs on cars that are coming into

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Speaker 7: We're putting a two hundred percent tariff on everything that

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Speaker 7: We have long been taken advantage of by other countries.

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Speaker 5: We lose jobs, we lose revenue, and they gain everything.

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Speaker 6: And we're really ready to make changes like nobody had

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you can't say we didn't vote for this.

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Speaker 3: They're not sure. So let's approach this in this way.

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Speaker 1: For the anti tariff people, you can argue against the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now the amazing Megan Kelly, journalist everybody watches

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Speaker 8: We are expanding and get bringing other podcasts into the

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Speaker 1: You're gonna like these shows, no doubt everything Megan Kelly

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Speaker 1: touches turns to gold anyway, all right, Megan, tariffs. Speaking

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Speaker 8: I'm so sick of talking about the tariffs? Is it

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Speaker 8: just me you? I refuse to get upset about this.

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Speaker 8: Don't look at your four O one K, just don't

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Speaker 8: If you, if you butter, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 1: It is, It is, all right, Megan, Brooke Rawlins was

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Speaker 8: You've got two days of data. Everyone is on your

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Speaker 3: Jake, Thank you Megan. Why do they have to do this?

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Speaker 1: good juicy exclusives. Let's talk about the manifesto, the Nashville manifesto.

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Speaker 1: that the FBI hit it and look, I like Cash,

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan and frankly a friend of Dan Bongino.

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Speaker 1: So this is not about those two guys. But Megan,

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Speaker 1: you tell me the federal Law Enforcement arm of the

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Speaker 1: United States of America spend three years burying a manifesto

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Speaker 1: because it might make tranny people look bad.

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Speaker 3: Megan, I tell.

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Speaker 1: You, that's an organization that doesn't need a little nip

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Speaker 1: here and a little tuck there. That's an organization that

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Speaker 1: cannot be saved.

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Speaker 8: What do you say, I agree with the words you

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Speaker 8: just spoke. It's it's sick. We've I don't know how

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Speaker 8: many school shootings I've covered since I became a reporter.

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Speaker 8: Jesse Man, I was on campus at Virginia Tech when

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Speaker 8: that happened, and I was a very new reporter, still

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Speaker 8: living in DC. I've gone through a lot of these.

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Speaker 8: I don't remember one where they wouldn't give us the

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Speaker 8: so called manifesto, and all along we've been wondering, like,

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Speaker 8: what the hell's in this document that it's you know,

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Speaker 8: we can't see it. This is the one that we

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Speaker 8: can't see. No, there's nothing so uniquely disturbing. They're all

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Speaker 8: deeply disturbing. They all talk about, you know, the worst

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Speaker 8: of the worst things they want to do. What's different

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Speaker 8: about this one is every left wing ideology is touted, embraced, espoused.

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Speaker 8: She's taken it to heart. And you know, Nashville pdeo,

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Speaker 8: Nashville's Democrat, Nashville went for Kamala. Just because this in

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Speaker 8: Tennessee doesn't mean it's right wing. And so I really

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Speaker 8: think this is a leftist town under a leftist government.

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Speaker 8: And the same for the FBI, for its tenure over

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Speaker 8: the recent years, that decided their favorite issues. We're not

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Speaker 8: going to take a beating once this thing came out,

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Speaker 8: and so they already got their wish in large part

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Speaker 8: by making a drag for two years.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: Stephen Crowder, to his credit, got his hands on three

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Speaker 8: pages of it. That was helpful, but they didn't want

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Speaker 8: us to see it. And enough time has passed now

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Speaker 8: that the attention on it will be diminished. So they

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Speaker 8: won in part. But you're right, as far as the

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Speaker 8: FBI itself goes, I think we're going to have to

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Speaker 8: go down to the studs to get anything that comes

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Speaker 8: close to being useful.

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Speaker 3: Megan, thank you for everything. I appreciate it. I'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you soon. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's actually going to lead us perfectly into cultural rot

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Speaker 1: because we have to discuss something that's still kind of

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Speaker 1: lurking there underneath the surface, if you will. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to that, let's not forget that Corporate America has

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Speaker 1: done everything in their power to ensure the cultural rot

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Speaker 1: of this country. They're not passively sitting on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: watching it happen. Corporate America has taken their gigantic sums

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Speaker 1: When you pay your cell phone bill, do you pay

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Speaker 3: Of your country? You can switch to pure Talk.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to just for a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes here. I wanted to talk about something that that's

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Speaker 1: been on my mind as it pertains to the culture war.

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Speaker 3: Because there is we went through.

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Speaker 1: We just lived through this kind of weird little period

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Speaker 1: and it to be hard to tell where we are

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Speaker 1: in the culture war fight. And here's what I mean,

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Speaker 1: the weird little period we went through. Joe Biden got

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Speaker 1: installed as president, and that really during that four years,

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Speaker 1: that was what felt like peak demonic culture war stuff.

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Speaker 3: You had Tranny's in the White House was it was.

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Speaker 1: Dei everywhere open promotion of anti white racism.

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Speaker 3: It was just the worst thing in.

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Speaker 1: The world and the United States of America for a

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Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. Remember all, not everyone votes the

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Speaker 1: way you vote or way I vote for the same reasons.

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Speaker 1: The United States of America.

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Speaker 3: It really felt like the country as.

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Speaker 1: A whole broke against that when we elected Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: It felt like that, right, it felt like that was

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Speaker 1: an important part of it. That's why the election was

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Speaker 1: so overwhelming, every county shifting to the right. It felt

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Speaker 1: like a re action of a lot of things. But

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Speaker 1: it most definitely felt like a rejection of that. And

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Speaker 1: to be honest, a lot of it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: the men and women's sports things. Americans just kind of

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Speaker 1: we had enough of the nutty, demonic insanity, okay, And in.

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Speaker 3: Some ways we're right.

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Speaker 1: In some ways that's that's a correct way of thinking.

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Speaker 1: America did reject it, it did push it away. I

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Speaker 1: mean the Snow White, the new Disney snow White movie

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Speaker 1: that bombed. The American people would have gone to see

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Speaker 1: a new snow white people snow White movie, they would

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Speaker 1: have flocked to go see one.

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Speaker 3: But these are the stars.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, the original cartoon came out in

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Speaker 9: nineteen thirty seven and very evidently so. There is a

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Speaker 9: big focus on her love story with a guy who

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Speaker 9: literally stalks her weird, weird, So we didn't do that

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Speaker 9: this time.

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Speaker 8: So no prince or a different kind of prince.

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Speaker 9: We have a different approach to what I'm sure a

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Speaker 9: lot of people will assume is a love story just

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Speaker 9: because like, we can't a guy in the movie. It's

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Speaker 9: no longer nineteen thirty seven, And we absolutely wrote a

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Speaker 9: snow white that is.

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Speaker 8: Not going to bed by the prince.

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Speaker 9: He's not going to be saved with the prince, and

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Speaker 9: she's not going to be dreaming about true love.

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Speaker 1: The American people saw enough of that and said, ah,

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Speaker 1: not interested. So that's good, that's good, Like this is

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Speaker 1: all good. We did reject it. But I get this

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Speaker 1: sense that the American people, or that those of us

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Speaker 1: on the right, that we feel like America has won

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Speaker 1: the culture war. Listen, these people are demonic. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the people who are trying to tear apart the

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Speaker 1: moral fabric of this country. They're demonic. This whole trans

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Speaker 1: evil to that. This is demonic stuff, and demons don't quit.

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Speaker 1: Evil doesn't quit. We are in the ocean, and we

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Speaker 1: fought off the shark.

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Speaker 3: For now. We did not kill the show.

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Speaker 1: I say this because we need to remain ever vigilant,

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Speaker 1: and we need to stay on the attack. They may

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Speaker 1: be on the run, even they may have turtled up

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Speaker 1: a little bit, they are not defeated by any stretch

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Speaker 1: of the imagination. Continue to put your money where your

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Speaker 1: morals are. Continue to be vigilant. Be involved in your schools,

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Speaker 1: pay attention to what your children listen to and watch.

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Speaker 3: Be vigilant.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's talk to Robbie Starbuck about

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Speaker 1: some of this vigilance. Before we get to that, let

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Speaker 1: me talk to you about sleeping well. About dream powder

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Speaker 1: from being I love it so much. I love it

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Speaker 1: because look does it do I sound like I love it?

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Speaker 1: I had some again last night. I had a couple

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Speaker 1: of hot chocolate. It's like nine o'clock. I was up

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure because today's Monday. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: make sure I had a good night's sleep. So I

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Speaker 1: feeling great. Six point thirty this morning, I was out

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Speaker 1: of bed skipping around the house.

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Speaker 3: Not really, that'd be weird, but you understand what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I want to sleep like that.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Remember, the communist is always trying to get his sick

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Speaker 1: religion as part of the law. This is so he

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Speaker 1: can use the law, so we can use, frankly, law

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Speaker 1: enforcement to force you to succumb to his will. That

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Speaker 1: the communists have done this forever in Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they greenlit a bill that.

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Speaker 1: Could classify misgendering somebody as a form of harassment and discrimination.

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Speaker 1: Why why would you bother doing such a thing so

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Speaker 1: they can send the police to kick in your door

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Speaker 1: and arrest you for not acknowledging reality.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: It's a sick bunch of people joining me now. Someone

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Speaker 1: who's very familiar with them, Robbie's Starbuck visiting fellow. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: on that, by the way, Robbie at the Heritage Foundation. Robbie,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people because it feels like the culture

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Speaker 1: war is kind of breaking our way right now, could

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Speaker 1: have convinced themselves that they're on the run. These people

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Speaker 1: are not.

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Speaker 3: On the run, are they.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 11: No, In any single state where they have enough institutional

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Speaker 11: power to do things like this, they will continue to

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Speaker 11: do it. They're doubling down on crazy. And that's very

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Speaker 11: important for people to understand because folks, after the election,

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Speaker 11: we're thinking, Okay, maybe the Democrats or the left in

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Speaker 11: general will sort of moderate on these issues, and we're

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Speaker 11: not seeing that.

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Speaker 10: Unfortunately. I'd love to see more of it.

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Speaker 11: I'd love to see these groups go and say, oh,

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Speaker 11: let's move to a moderate place, but it's just not

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Speaker 11: happening on the left. And so I think folks have

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Speaker 11: to understand in these states that are you know, very

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Speaker 11: very much on the left, you're going to continue to

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Speaker 11: see this type of policy push. And I think what's

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Speaker 11: most dangerous about it is that bill's like this actually

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Speaker 11: seek to create custody decisions on the basis of whether

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Speaker 11: or not a parent is quote affirming of the gender

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Speaker 11: identity of their kids. So you could actually see many parents,

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Speaker 11: and you will see many parents losing custody of their

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Speaker 11: kids if they are not quote affirming of that child,

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Speaker 11: if they decide their transgender.

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Speaker 1: Robbie, can you explain why they won't back off of

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Speaker 1: the trans stuff, because of every policy on the left,

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Speaker 1: you could go down the list, and yes they're unpopular

635
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Speaker 1: on virtually all of them, but every single poll shows

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Speaker 1: this one is a loser, and an unbelievable loser for

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Speaker 1: not even political people, people in the middle. It's just

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Speaker 1: a loser for the left. Yet they can't let it go. Why, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's how.

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Speaker 11: You know that leftism has become sort of like a

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Speaker 11: pseudo religion, right, because that's the type of group that

642
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Speaker 11: will defend something that's extraordinarily unpopular if it feels like

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Speaker 11: it's part of the tenets of their religion, and they

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Speaker 11: just can't let it go. And so that's what we're

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Speaker 11: seeing is is the left broadly holding onto these eighty

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Speaker 11: twenty issues where eighty percent of society is wholly opposed

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Speaker 11: to it on a moral level, on just to a

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Speaker 11: pure intellectual sanity based level, and they're they're holding on

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Speaker 11: to it. And I think the only thing that you

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Speaker 11: can you can sort of get from this is that,

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Speaker 11: you know, in these recent years where you've seen a

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Speaker 11: shift away from the left among many different people who

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Speaker 11: used to be on the left, you can really just

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Speaker 11: kind of count on that to continue, where folks leave

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Speaker 11: because the left is just getting so crazy in terms

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Speaker 11: of their adoption of these policies.

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Speaker 1: Robbie, the Supreme Court did just rule in favor of

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I mean, I guess we have one

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Speaker 1: of those every now and then when it comes to DEI,

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Speaker 1: the education departments freezing DEI grants. So maybe maybe at

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Speaker 1: least as far as the courts.

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Speaker 3: Go, we have some sanity coming back.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, let me put my Heritage Foundation visiting

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Speaker 11: fellow hat on.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 11: When I look at a decision like this, what I

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Speaker 11: see is some semblance of sanity, because the courts absolutely

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Speaker 11: should be able to see very clearly the DEI in

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Speaker 11: all the forms we're seeing it functionally violate the law

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Speaker 11: in many different senses, and so I think this is

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Speaker 11: a good step in the right direction. Ultimately, there's a

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Speaker 11: number of DEI based issues that are going to have

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Speaker 11: to go up to the Supreme Court, and I think

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Speaker 11: we're going to have to have consistent decision after consistent

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Speaker 11: decision that these policies do in fact violate the law.

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Speaker 11: And I think companies in many respects are preparing for

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Speaker 11: that moment and they know that that's coming down down

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Speaker 11: the pipe here is like we're going to see these

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Speaker 11: policies crushed.

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Speaker 1: Robbie, keep that Heritage Foundation hat on, because you've actually

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Speaker 1: started a new initiative with them.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 11: So, I've been doing this work since last year in June,

685
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Speaker 11: going company by company eliminating woke policies and DEI policies

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Speaker 11: for major corporations, and now there's short of new tools

687
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Speaker 11: in this deal with the Heritage Foundation where we're going

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Speaker 11: to have this Capital Markets initiative and thinking about not

689
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Speaker 11: only how you eliminate this insanity from corporate America and

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Speaker 11: corporations at large all across the globe, but really also

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Speaker 11: how we can make sure the conservatives like us have

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Speaker 11: our voice heard in the marketplace so that wokeness and

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Speaker 11: all this craziness we've seen in recent years never happens again.

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Speaker 11: That means using our money wisely, That means using our

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Speaker 11: power collectively wisely, and having a voice in these rooms,

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Speaker 11: on these boards and things along those lines. So we're

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Speaker 11: going to be looking at this as a multi pronged

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Speaker 11: effort to essentially bring sanity back and focus on excellence

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Speaker 11: in America once again, get out of this business of

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Speaker 11: division and wokeness and embrace the future where we really

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Speaker 11: win again in corporate America because we want to see

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Speaker 11: America great, and for America to be great, our companies

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00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 11: have to be great, and they cannot be prisoners to

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Speaker 11: this crazy ideology.

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Speaker 3: Robbie, how do we lose them?

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Speaker 1: I understand you just got all over pepsi, and I

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Speaker 1: love that you feel free to talk about it. But

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Speaker 1: how in the will did this happen? When I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, a pepsi commercial with some you know, professional

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Speaker 1: athletes simping a pepsi after a touchdown or that was

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Speaker 1: just like normal stuff.

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Speaker 3: But now it's sick? Why?

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Speaker 10: How it's idiological capture?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 11: I mean, in many respects, a lot of this came

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Speaker 11: from the academic level upstream into these companies. And so

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Speaker 11: what I mean by that is you had wokeness infect

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Speaker 11: the schools first, right, and then a lot of those

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Speaker 11: students who you know, were sort of raised up in

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Speaker 11: this environment of safe spaces and coloring books on college

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Speaker 11: campuses for their safety and you know, for them to

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Speaker 11: feel okay, they moved upstream into PR jobs and into

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Speaker 11: HR jobs. And then George Floyd happened and After that happened,

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Speaker 11: there was a huge push from those HR departments, from

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Speaker 11: those PR departments to create DEI departments, and the pitch

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Speaker 11: from them to executives was essentially, this is how we

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Speaker 11: signaled to the public that we are not racist, and

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Speaker 11: if you don't do this, we're going to look like

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Speaker 11: a racist company. And so a lot of those executives

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Speaker 11: fell for it, hook line and sinker, and they poured

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Speaker 11: millions and millions, in some cases billions of dollars into

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Speaker 11: these initiatives. And what did they get back for it.

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Speaker 11: Nothing good. It has hurt their companies year over year

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Speaker 11: to an alarming degree. Executives realize it now, and they've

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Speaker 11: been looking for how they get out from under it,

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Speaker 11: and we've been giving them every reason to get out

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Speaker 11: from under it. And so I think in many ways

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Speaker 11: we're doing a service for corporate America because we're helping

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Speaker 11: them to get out from under this extremely unpopular, expensive,

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Speaker 11: wasteful ideology. But that's how we got here is really

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Speaker 11: essentially activists making their way into corporate America and forcing

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Speaker 11: their ideologies into the actual company itself. I mean, it

743
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Speaker 11: got to a point of absurdity where we saw the

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Speaker 11: number one resource that was being recommended by major Fortune

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00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 11: five hundred corporations in their DII resources section was Ebram

746
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Speaker 11: Kenny's How to Be an Anti Racist book, which says

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Speaker 11: to be anti racist, you must oppose capitalism. That is

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Speaker 11: the core message of the book theme. Right, So you've

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Speaker 11: got major corporations who rely on capitalism to survive saying

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Speaker 11: to their employees, hey, read this book that essentially teaches

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Speaker 11: you to be a communist or says you're a racist

752
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Speaker 11: bigot if you're not a communist. So, you know, we

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Speaker 11: got to that point of absurdity, and now we're turning back,

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Speaker 11: and we're turning back hard, and I think you're going

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Speaker 11: to see sanity overwhelmingly be the overarching thought process of

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Speaker 11: corporations over the next year.

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Speaker 1: Robbie, I can't help but think it's April now, which

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Speaker 1: means June cometh. And we all know what June has

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Speaker 1: become in this dagone country pride month where we all

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Speaker 1: have to get waterboarded with rainbow propaganda. But it seemed

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Speaker 1: like it was turned down, the volume of it was

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Speaker 1: turned down last year.

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Speaker 3: Am I just old and out of touch?

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Speaker 11: Or was it the volume was turned down last year?

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Speaker 11: But it's going to look very different this year. In fact,

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Speaker 11: that separate from what I'm doing with Heritage Foundation, I

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Speaker 11: on a personal level with my team have notified most

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Speaker 11: major corporations that they should be very very careful in

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Speaker 11: this upcoming Pride month, you know, because we are going

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Speaker 11: to have people filming at a lot of the major events,

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Speaker 11: and we're going to be egoied about who sponsored what,

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Speaker 11: and if children are exposed to inappropriate content, the public's

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Speaker 11: going to know about it. And so companies I think

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Speaker 11: are being very careful about this because I've seen the

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Speaker 11: news headlines from you know, legacy and media essentially crying

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Speaker 11: that all these Pride events are losing their corporate funding,

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Speaker 11: and I'd like to think we played a big part

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Speaker 11: in that at the end of the day. Also, there's

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Speaker 11: just a general fear that's palpable among these companies that

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Speaker 11: they don't want to be the next bud Light or

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Speaker 11: the next tractor supplier, the next John Deere, the next

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Speaker 11: Charlie Davidson.

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Speaker 10: Right, So they're just.

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Speaker 11: Avoiding this at all costs, I think in most cases,

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Speaker 11: but there will be some stupid companies that go out

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Speaker 11: there and they embrace this fully and we're going to

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Speaker 11: be there when inappropriate things happen, and we're going to

788
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Speaker 11: make sure the public knows about it.

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Speaker 1: Robbie, Finally, before I let you go, will you talk

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Speaker 1: about the Human Rights Campaign the HRC. Obviously you're well

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Speaker 1: familiar with them, and they're familiar with you, But most

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Speaker 1: people they don't understand what this group is, how powerful

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Speaker 1: this group is, and the part.

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Speaker 3: They play in so much of this stuff. Talk about

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Speaker 3: this mafia group.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, in my view, they are just pure poison, you know,

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00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 11: maybe poison packed into a donut. So they wave the

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Speaker 11: donut right in front of companies and then they buy it

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Speaker 11: and they swallow the poison. That's the best way I

800
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Speaker 11: could put it. A very strange donut that's filled with poison.

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Speaker 11: But essentially, this group operates as a cartel to to

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Speaker 11: push the LGBTQ mindset, policy set into major corporations, and

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Speaker 11: so they do that in number of different ways. One

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Speaker 11: of the ways they do it is through this CI

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Speaker 11: scoring system. The CI scoring system, which many people may

806
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Speaker 11: have heard of. It essentially says you have to have

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Speaker 11: met certain benchmarks to get one hundred percent score right,

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Speaker 11: and there's financial benefits to doing so. So for a

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Speaker 11: long time, over previous years, these financial institutions were actually

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Speaker 11: giving companies preferential treatment if they got one hundred percent

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Speaker 11: score on their HRC scoring system. So essentially what it

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Speaker 11: says is, you have to allow men in the bathroom

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Speaker 11: with women if they say they're a woman. You've got

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Speaker 11: to pay for sex changes. You've got to pay for

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Speaker 11: sex changes even for dependents of employees. If you want

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Speaker 11: one hundred percent score, you've got to have internal LGBTQ

817
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Speaker 11: events at the office, you've got to show that you've

818
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Speaker 11: got to provide it to the HRC evidence that you did. So,

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Speaker 11: you've got to support outside LGBTQ plus events a number

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Speaker 11: of them, and there's more down that list. It goes

821
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Speaker 11: on and on and on, but essentially you have to

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Speaker 11: do all these things to be able to get that

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Speaker 11: one hundred percent score, and then you have to publicly

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Speaker 11: boast it.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 11: So many companies were doing this until we came along

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Speaker 11: last year and we made the pitch to them essentially

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Speaker 11: that they need to drop all third party scoring systems

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Speaker 11: because in essence, my concern for companies is that they

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Speaker 11: shouldn't be doing the Robbie scoring system, and they also

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Speaker 11: shouldn't be doing the HRC score scoring system. And that's

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Speaker 11: because if you've got these scoring systems that are diametrically opposed,

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Speaker 11: what's going to happen is you're going to get squeezed.

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Speaker 11: And companies should not want to get squeezed by both

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Speaker 11: left wing and right wing consumers. They should want to

836
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Speaker 11: be able to serve everybody if they're public company. Right,

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Speaker 11: if you're in that fortune five hundred and you're on

838
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Speaker 10: And to do that you need to get out of

841
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Speaker 10: divisive politics.

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Speaker 11: And that's been my overarching message to them is get

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Speaker 11: out of the business of division and be focused on

844
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Speaker 11: making money again. And the way to do that is

845
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Speaker 11: not to get involved with any of these third party

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Speaker 11: groups that want to do a scoring system that is

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Speaker 11: going to divide us.

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875
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: cookie display they have? I bet you bypass it every time. Nah,

876
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: I don't want any chocolate chip.

877
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't want any oakmeal rays and Subway has the

878
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: best cookies in the United States of America. I won't

879
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: walk in one without coming out with a couple of cookies.

880
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: You know that there's a little tidbit. Two, there's Southwest

881
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: Chipotle Southwest? What is in that bottle? Southwest? Whatever they're

882
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Southwest sauce is Chipotle. I get a cheese steak, double cheese,

883
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: of course, and I just drown it in that sauce

884
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: I had. Those poor women at Subway just snows that

885
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: stuff all over it. It's fantastic, fantastic. I used to

886
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: eat two of them when I was in the Marine Corps.

887
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Two foot longs. Can't eat like that anymore. But still,

888
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Subway fan. And so you might turn your

889
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: nose up at this, but I won't.

890
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 12: The Dorito's foot long nachos a little bit early, so

891
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 12: of course we got tryumph. Let's see what these look

892
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 12: like all look at that. You start with a bag

893
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 12: of chips. You get your choice of chicken or steak.

894
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 12: They've got tomatoes, they got onions, They've got like the

895
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 12: regular cheese, they've got the Chipotle sauce. They've got some jlopenos.

896
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 12: They're a bit of a mess, as you expect from nachos.

897
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 12: But this is a nice little snack for five dollars.

898
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 12: It doesn't feel like a bad value, especially when you

899
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 12: get some steak. Get all the toppings on there. It's

900
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 12: got a little bit of heat, it's got some good flavor.

901
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 12: It is a mess, but they did give me a four.

902
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I'm in I see them