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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me

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Speaker 1: is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Uh. And you put the

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Speaker 1: Did you know that cute tips originally called baby gaze?

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Speaker 1: Baby Gaze? I don't think I knew that, but it

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Speaker 1: sounds familiar. True story story. Very cool. I like starting

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Speaker 1: off with a fact that has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: our show. Sure, right, So, Chuck, speaking of having nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with our show. Um, let's talk about deja vu?

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Speaker 1: You ever had it? I have? And uh, let me

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Speaker 1: Peter Harrison of Pittman, New Jersey, Keeping It Real and

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Speaker 1: New Jersey in the Garden State. He actually had deja

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Speaker 1: vu when he was listening to I Believe our Exorcism podcast.

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Speaker 1: the thirty percent who has reported never having all? I

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Speaker 1: nuts and bolts, shall we. Deja vu French four French

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Speaker 1: four already seen and I believe it was named by

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Speaker 1: Emil Borak, who was a French scientist, first guy to

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Speaker 1: his eighteen seventy six book Leveneer decien Ces Physiques. Wow,

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Speaker 1: like you just channeled Peppy le Pew. So deja vu,

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Speaker 1: But they they've basically split deja vu into two two

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