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Speaker 1: It's Monday, June June twenty twenty twenty five, BC LT

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Speaker 1: and Luke Thomas of DC fame. I gotta I don't

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of sheat to get into.

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Speaker 5: Brother, it's a big one today, boys, lady, gentlemen, glad

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Speaker 5: you could be here for it. How about that?

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Speaker 5: And by the way, BCE, even though I got a

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Speaker 5: So I just want to tell you I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get loose here, let's get loose in the bullpen.

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Speaker 5: Hey, real quickly? How does that fight end? Very quickly?

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Speaker 5: How does that end be? How does it end?

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Speaker 5: Decision?

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Speaker 1: What Jake by decision? How about that?

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Speaker 1: There we go, There we go. What a time? Ilia

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Speaker 1: up today though, to set the stage for that, look

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Speaker 1: back on what happened. Canelo Crawford have the first two

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Speaker 1: John Jones, tom asppitall, Francis and Ganu and everything else

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Speaker 1: going on in combat sports. We in this baby, We're

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Speaker 1: You can follow our YouTube channels as well. Quick hello

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Speaker 1: to the third man on our team, the producer, director,

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Speaker 1: It's Luke no Seda of the Main Card Minute and

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Speaker 3: I mean you see, we were we had a great

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Speaker 5: We'd love to have you on sometime. You know, I

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Speaker 5: don't I don't. I don't join the parties of peasants.

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Speaker 3: by the way, went six for six on the main card.

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Speaker 5: So we had a good time. Did you do you

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Speaker 1: Breaking news over the weekend that really threatened to take

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Speaker 1: Right, all, wow, before those two African American gentlemen entered

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Speaker 5: this damage was while hurting Tom Aspinall's career. All the

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Speaker 6: Would you say, would you guarantee you one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say one hundred percent. John Jones called us

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Speaker 1: Luke, I mean, there's no other way to say it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, these are people who don't think much about

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Speaker 1: Week from Las Vegas, California, after Jones failed the drug test.

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Speaker 1: So this was straight up enabling. How long did we

432
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Speaker 1: hear Dana White just lie to us John Jones is

433
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Speaker 1: the Pomper Pound number one today and anyone that says

434
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Speaker 1: something different, you know, blah blah blah blah blah. They

435
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Speaker 1: went to all that length only for Jones to double

436
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Speaker 1: cross them in the end. So first, let me play

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Speaker 1: here a tweet from Jones explaining his retirement that came

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Speaker 1: out a couple hours after Dana's press conference statement. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm officially announcing my retirement in the US. See. This

440
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Speaker 1: decision comes after a lot of reflection, and I want

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Speaker 1: to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for

442
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Speaker 1: the journey of everything I've experienced over the years. He

443
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Speaker 1: would go on to thank Dana Hunter, UFC and all

444
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Speaker 1: that Lorenzo, and he closes with, as I closed this

445
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Speaker 1: chapter of my life, I look forward to new opportunities

446
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Speaker 1: and challenges ahead. MMA is always a part of who

447
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Speaker 1: I am, and I'm excited to see how I can

448
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Speaker 1: continue to contribute to the sport and acquire our offers

449
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Speaker 1: in new ways. Thank you for being part of the

450
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Speaker 1: incredible journey. The best is yet to come. And from Jones, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I almost want a lightning round here where I ask

452
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Speaker 1: you questions and you give me relatively succinct answers. Okay,

453
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Speaker 1: did John Jones retire because of the legal issues because

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Speaker 1: he's straight up scared of aspinall because he never intended

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Speaker 1: to fight him? Or is gain a correct that this

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Speaker 1: is a change of heart after he agreed to it

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Speaker 1: just some six months ago.

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Speaker 5: Mostly all of the above to go succinctly, hear araj

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Speaker 5: want His reporting is that the UFC made a significant

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Speaker 5: effort to match whatever he was asking for, and that

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Speaker 5: he initially agreed and later changed his mind. If Erro's

462
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Speaker 5: reporting it, you can have whatever issues you want with him,

463
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Speaker 5: I've worked with the guy. If he's reporting it, it

464
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Speaker 5: is almost certainly true. I would believe that number one

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Speaker 5: second of all, was he scared to fight tom Aspinall

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Speaker 5: at the risk involved? Yes, I mean, do I think

467
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Speaker 5: he's abjectly afraid of tom Aspinall. I wouldn't even make

468
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Speaker 5: such a claim, but clearly he recognizes that there is

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Speaker 5: significant risk to it, and as a consequence, he just

470
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Speaker 5: didn't want to didn't want to deal with the risk.

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Speaker 5: What was the first part of the question, B See.

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Speaker 1: What is this new allegation which is a misdemeanor. He

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Speaker 1: is saying he's not guilty. Does this factor in your eyes?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Did a factor into his retirement? The timing seems

475
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Speaker 5: way too coincidental now, whether it was the reason, whether

476
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Speaker 5: it was the reason of the straw that broke the

477
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Speaker 5: Campbell's back. On the one hand, PC, you just saw

478
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Speaker 5: Sedric Dumah who was charged with felony home invasion and

479
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Speaker 5: they booked him to a fight. This is a misdemeanor

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Speaker 5: and John is to his credit, like every other person

481
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Speaker 5: charged with a crime, they are guilty until proven innocent.

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Speaker 5: So these are just allegations but at the same time,

483
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Speaker 5: you know, people are like, oh, he ran from again,

484
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Speaker 5: alleged to have run from the scene of a car accident.

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Speaker 5: You know he's done that before, and it's just a misdemeanor.

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Speaker 5: How big a deal is it? Well, first of all,

487
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Speaker 5: even if it's just that, it's a big deal. Also,

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Speaker 5: what I would say is the nature of the allegations.

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Speaker 5: And again they're allegations. But the allegations from the ABQ,

490
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Speaker 5: the police department, are that the woman had again for

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Speaker 5: whatever reason. I'm not making allegations, but I'm just trying

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Speaker 5: to recite the facts here. She had no clothes again,

493
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Speaker 5: no clothes off from the waist down. Last thing she

494
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Speaker 5: remember was doing drugs allegedly at either his place or

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Speaker 5: her place or together at some point, you know, and

496
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Speaker 5: then there's this alleged, you know, running thing again. They

497
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Speaker 5: also claimed that whoever was on the other end of

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Speaker 5: the phone made threats to the police. Now, to your point,

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Speaker 5: John's attorney says, this is all some kind of a

500
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Speaker 5: case of mistaken identity. I guess we'll see. But you know,

501
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Speaker 5: there's just too many things that rhyme here, and it

502
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Speaker 5: looks kind of bad and at a bare minimum. It's

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Speaker 5: yet another distraction. And to the point I raised previously, BC,

504
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Speaker 5: it just seems like this dude is not only living

505
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Speaker 5: a different life than the one that a fighter would live,

506
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Speaker 5: he's actually kind of in a way, living the same

507
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Speaker 5: life he's always lived, just a little bit more money

508
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Speaker 5: and a little bit more enabled along the way. It's

509
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Speaker 5: all those things.

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Speaker 1: And apparently Accordnel Long Island. Luke, you said guilty until proved.

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Speaker 5: Oh, excuse me, I apologize, Let me go act and correct. Yes, no,

512
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Speaker 5: I was not being cheeky. I apologize, of course. I

513
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Speaker 5: don't want to mistate it. John is innocent until proven guilty.

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Speaker 5: These are just allegations. These are charges. No one has

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Speaker 5: proven his guilty in any way whatsoever at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all part of the story though, just

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Speaker 1: the same, without question, Luke, let's stay on this rapid

518
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Speaker 1: fire thing. You get people saying, look, don't you guys

519
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Speaker 1: see this. He just doesn't want to fight ask But

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Speaker 1: in all he's got legal issues. He's gonna step away now.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna come back when things change. He'll fight whoever

522
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Speaker 1: is the newest champion. Maybe he'll fight Poeton, Luke, does

523
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Speaker 1: John Jones Ever fight again in the UFC, he might.

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Speaker 5: You know, people saying that Tom Aspin off if he loses,

525
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Speaker 5: which by the way, I'm not one of those guys

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Speaker 5: who believes that he automatically loses John does to Tom.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe that. There's a lot about Tom. We

528
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Speaker 5: simply don't know. But to that point, if Tom loses,

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Speaker 5: do I think he comes back. I do. If Francis

530
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Speaker 5: were to come back and they could make some super fight,

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Speaker 5: maybe that'd be interesting. Or if somehow the to your point,

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Speaker 5: the Poeton fight becomes some kind of renewed effort that

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Speaker 5: they could get behind. I think that they will. But

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Speaker 5: for the time being, yes, he is gonna lay low.

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Speaker 5: I doubt it's the last time you see him. Possible,

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Speaker 5: but I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: And look again, he could do what he wants, But

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Speaker 1: like retire after the Stepe fight. We would have ripped

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Speaker 1: him for three weeks, we would have gotten over it.

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00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Aspinall would have been full champion. He probably would have

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Speaker 1: fought two or three times since then. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that he didn't retire then when he had these questions,

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Speaker 1: the fact that the UFC allowed it to go on

544
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Speaker 1: so long, there's blot on all of their hands right now,

545
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Speaker 1: And what a time for this to happen in the

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Speaker 1: midst of what we appear, what we think is the

547
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Speaker 1: final stages of negotiation with the likes of Netflix, Prime, ESPN,

548
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Speaker 1: whoever else for this new TV deal that they want

549
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: to get three times the valuation upwards of more actually

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Speaker 1: more than one billion per year. So it's all connected.

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Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet from a company man in Daniel Cormier,

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Speaker 1: but John Jones's greatest rival. Cormier went live on his

553
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel and said, by not stepping in the octagon,

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Speaker 1: John Jones quit, he didn't want to fight tom aspinall. Luke,

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Speaker 1: you already sort of answered that for yourself. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that's fair of DC to say?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. I can understand why

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Speaker 5: DC would say it. I can understand why DC would

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Speaker 5: say it. I just think, at again, we've kind of

560
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Speaker 5: beaten a dead horse at this point. He doesn't need

561
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Speaker 5: to fight Tom Aspital. But to the point you raised, BC,

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Speaker 5: if he had done this, fought Steepe, which was a

563
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Speaker 5: gigantic waste of time. I hope everyone can understand that now.

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Speaker 5: But had he done that and then did what George

565
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Speaker 5: San Pierre did after beating Michael Bisping, which was within days,

566
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Speaker 5: basically returned the belt. That still would have been extremely unsatisfying.

567
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Speaker 5: But this is what I mean about like demoralizing the

568
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Speaker 5: fan base. This was just dragging on and on and on.

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Speaker 5: I don't care that he didn't want to fight Tom Aspital.

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Speaker 5: I don't even think his logic about it is necessarily

571
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Speaker 5: all that problematic BC. If it is, you know what,

572
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Speaker 5: this guy doesn't have a huge fan base yet, and

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Speaker 5: he is very dangerous. Why do I want to risk

574
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Speaker 5: myself against that? I understand that, I actually don't think

575
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: that that's crazy, But then to just kind of hold

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Speaker 5: onto the belt and then while holding on to it

577
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Speaker 5: lobbying for another fight in real time. DC is going

578
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Speaker 5: to make a series of conclusions based on that. Other

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Speaker 5: people are going to make a series of conclusions based

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Speaker 5: on that. Everything goes back to the fact that there

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Speaker 5: was this wasted effort in this second weight class campaign

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Speaker 5: over and over again, delays with injuries, and then on

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Speaker 5: top of it, this rigamarole that's been taking place since November.

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Speaker 5: All of it leads to different conclusions BC, all of

585
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Speaker 5: them justified because none of this was necessary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, aspinall becomes the longest reigning interim champion in any

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Speaker 1: division UFC history, and John was what fifty days away

588
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Speaker 1: from passing kine Velaskus for the longest heavyweight title reign.

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Speaker 1: Let's get one final piece of sound from Dana, who

590
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: caught up with Oscar Willis on Sunday, who had a

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Speaker 1: pointed question about John. Let's listen it. I'll just come

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Speaker 1: out and ask you do you think he's ducking until Aspinal.

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Speaker 2: No, John Jones. I said it a million times. I'll

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00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 2: say it again. He's never ducked anybody other than that

595
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Speaker 2: one goofy time with the chill sounding thing. He's never

596
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Speaker 2: never ducked anybody. And you know, I think the reality

597
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: is whatever changed his mind with fight. I don't know,

598
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Speaker 2: you'd have to ask him that, but you know he's

599
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Speaker 2: thirty eight years old, and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if you're someone on Alex Pereira he

601
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Speaker 1: would fight them?

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Speaker 2: And it's maybe Tom that he.

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Speaker 7: Specifically like, doesn't fancy the matchup, doesn't fancy the age difference.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the answer to these questions.

605
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: Only he does. You know, we had the fight done. Listen.

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Speaker 2: Our job is to make the biggest fights we can

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Speaker 2: make and the fights that the vans want to see,

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Speaker 2: and uh, that's what we try to do. But the

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Speaker 2: minute somebody starts talking about retirement, you know my philosophy

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Speaker 2: on that, you should do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you're Habibe, by the way, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: drag that out for another year. Interesting stuff there, Luke,

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Speaker 1: It's all.

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Speaker 5: I do think we should say BC because we're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: the UFC blaze plays a role here in how this

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Speaker 5: all went, and they do like, there's no there's no

617
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Speaker 5: way they do. But at the same time, you see,

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Speaker 5: it is a complicated picture because again I'm going to

619
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Speaker 5: I'm going to trust a Ariel's reporting and if Aero's

620
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Speaker 5: reporting is accurate, that they kind of made it perhaps

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Speaker 5: a historically unusual effort at giving him a substantial fight

622
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Speaker 5: person again, the specifics of which we're not totally clear on,

623
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Speaker 5: but a pretty big one. You know. Again, he was

624
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: underpaid through his whole career. I fully believe that. But

625
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: at the same time, don't you feel like they Again,

626
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Speaker 5: I no one wants to give the UFC credit right now,

627
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: and I understand that, but if they did make a

628
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 5: historically unusually high offer to him that deserves to be

629
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: noted in the record too, Is it not.

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Speaker 1: He deserve credit for that, because that's where we've been

631
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Speaker 1: pushing them this whole two years, like pay that man

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Speaker 1: his money. So I agree with that, But it's the

633
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Speaker 1: by doing unprecedented levels of both glazing and enabling in

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Speaker 1: this case, and the only precedent I guess is the

635
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Speaker 1: fact that John's had this treatment his whole career, although

636
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Speaker 1: in between times when he was Dana's enemy. But by

637
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: doing that, they fed it up for everyone else around them,

638
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: the fans, their own financial bottom line of business decisions,

639
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Speaker 1: the heavyweight division at law, Tom Aspinall's career arc, all

640
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: of this like you know, collateral damage that it's like

641
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: you delayed the completely unnecessary Jones Meo Chip fight the

642
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: way that you did, and now to delay this in

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Speaker 1: an additional you know, seven eight months, and now we

644
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Speaker 1: don't even have the fight that also falls on you inevitably,

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Speaker 1: you never put that line in the sand and said,

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Speaker 1: all right, John, we need a decision, let's go. I

647
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Speaker 1: feel like there's too much at stake right now with

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Speaker 1: the TV deal with all that. Now, look I just

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Speaker 1: want to a final point I'm gonna throw to you.

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Speaker 1: But look, did I say that this was all a ruse?

651
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Speaker 1: We were getting pro wrestling taking advantage that we definitely

652
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Speaker 1: did that show. I did. But I don't take embarrassment

653
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Speaker 1: of that for being wrong, because part of that is

654
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: built up on the optimism that he couldn't possibly mean

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Speaker 1: what he's saying. The guy who's the greatest fighter of

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Speaker 1: all time, who if he really didn't want to fight Aspirall,

657
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: would have retired after gone when he got hurt, or

658
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: would have retired in the cage after beating Stepe. But again,

659
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the fact that this was allowed to be stretched out.

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00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I was almost protecting John and Dana with that type

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00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: of line of thinking of saying this is the only

662
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Speaker 1: way to justify why this is happening here, and it

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Speaker 1: turns out that wasn't even true. So Luke, final point here,

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Speaker 1: final question related to this, if there's any precedent. Look,

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Speaker 1: I get that, like what you're saying, John's the greatest

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Speaker 1: fighter of all time, he's a superstar. He's the rare

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Speaker 1: guy today with you know, pay per view backbone that

668
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Speaker 1: can bring in the fans. So I get that he's

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Speaker 1: going to get different in special treatment, and this was

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Speaker 1: You can't necessarily compare that completely to Jermaine Durandomi getting

671
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Speaker 1: stripped of her title after four months because she refused

672
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Speaker 1: to fight Cyborg or Nico Montano after she was hospitalized

673
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: in that bad weight cut in her first title defense

674
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Speaker 1: and got stripped. There's also let's not forget Lennox Lewis,

675
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: the all time great heavyweight champion who after his final fight,

676
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Speaker 1: that life and death war with Batali clitch Go, he

677
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Speaker 1: not only decided not to rematch clitch Goo, which the

678
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Speaker 1: fans were calling for, or fight Vladimir klitch Go, he

679
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Speaker 1: walked away. I get it. We don't talk about that

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Speaker 1: much today. We talk about LENNX Lewis being one of

681
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Speaker 1: the top five greatest heavyweights of all time. So, Luke,

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Speaker 1: with all that said, does this do anything to alter

683
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Speaker 1: John Jones's legacy in any meaningful way or will it

684
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Speaker 1: just be something maybe we bring up ten years from now.

685
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: But what we'll also bring up is he's the greatest

686
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Speaker 1: fighter we've ever seen. He's basically undefeated, and he did

687
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Speaker 1: win titles in two weight classes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a great question. BC. I can't rapid

689
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Speaker 5: fire this one, but I'll make it succinct to say

690
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Speaker 5: the following. I have seen people try to downplay his

691
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Speaker 5: two h five resume, and listen, everybody who is an

692
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Speaker 5: elite guy Silva, Demetrius Johnson, Saint Pierre, John Jones, Jose Aldo,

693
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Speaker 5: they all have gimmes somewhere in their run, and they

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Speaker 5: all maybe have a gimmes as an easy opponents or

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Speaker 5: even during their title run. And they might even have

696
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Speaker 5: a couple of decisions that went their way that maybe shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Hendrix over GSP over Hendrix, John over Domin, Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know, Demitrius Johnson over Michel Torres. You know what

699
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Speaker 5: I mean, Like, these are the things that probably shouldn't

700
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Speaker 5: have happened, but they did, and they all play a

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Speaker 5: part to a degree in their resume. But the reality

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Speaker 5: is John's two zero five resume. If you're asking, you know,

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Speaker 5: give me an example of what weight class dominance look like,

704
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Speaker 5: they just don't come much better than that. It's what

705
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Speaker 5: I said earlier. Bc MMA could really use John Jones

706
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Speaker 5: if he was actually giving a full throat an effort

707
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Speaker 5: right now, like they could use that. They could use

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Speaker 5: somebody who you know, has that kind of greatness and

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Speaker 5: that kind of commitment that he once had, but I

710
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Speaker 5: guess those days are long gone. So what I'm gonna

711
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Speaker 5: say is his resume at two o five is so

712
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Speaker 5: good that he's always going to be in the upper

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Speaker 5: echelon of discussion. What I think is interesting, though, is

714
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Speaker 5: because he is a two weight world champion, and because

715
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Speaker 5: there is such controversy and frankly almost venom for this

716
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Speaker 5: guy from the fan base and at a bare minimum

717
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Speaker 5: extraordinary disappointment, any conversation about John second weight class title,

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Speaker 5: I think is actually going to be something of either

719
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Speaker 5: a net wash where it doesn't actually boost his resume

720
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Speaker 5: and in certain cases might even harm his stock because

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Speaker 5: of how frankly undistinguished it was, not merely relative to

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Speaker 5: his two ZHO five run, but to any kind of

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Speaker 5: championship run. This is one of the worst runs in

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Speaker 5: championship history for any weight class in terms of like

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Speaker 5: what it means, did it add anything to a legacy?

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Speaker 5: How difficult was it? It's it's got almost nothing to it.

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Speaker 5: And I think that BC once you have like, okay,

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Speaker 5: let's make a list of the two weight world champions,

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Speaker 5: and now you're talking about what this adds to their legacy.

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Speaker 5: There is a strong case to be made that this

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's well said. All right, we had

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Speaker 1: Topic number two is the UFC heavyweight fallout to the

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Speaker 1: John Jones decision. Luke I felt like Dana White had

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Speaker 1: the chance to be the hero after this bad news

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00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: delivered at the Baku press conference when he was asked

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Speaker 1: about a possible Francis and Gano returned to the UFC instead.

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Speaker 1: Minutes after announcing fans could expect double the amount of

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Speaker 1: Dana White contender series nights in their next broadcasting deal,

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Speaker 1: White quickly shot down any thought of aspinall versus in

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Speaker 1: GHANU by disparaging Francis's integrity. We're gonna play the video

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Speaker 1: and then I'll tee you up for your response. Let's

782
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Speaker 1: listen in on Dana right now.

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Speaker 8: Francis says he changed his mind and he would consider

784
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Speaker 8: coming back to the UFC.

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Speaker 5: Would you.

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Speaker 2: Would consider coming back to the UFC if what one

787
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Speaker 2: thing I've learned over the years about Francis, Francis doesn't

788
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Speaker 2: always mean what he says publicly. What he says behind

789
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Speaker 2: the scenes are different than what he says publicly. I'm

790
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Speaker 2: not a big fan.

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Speaker 5: I would be.

792
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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if if Francis ever came back

793
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Speaker 2: here on lots of different levels. I'm not a fan,

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't always mean what he says publicly.

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Speaker 1: Look, before I ask you this question, I just want

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Speaker 1: to make one thing clear here for people that are

797
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Speaker 1: coming after me. I'm not asking for a co promotion anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't eve think PFL is gonna be around in

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Speaker 1: a year, to be honest, I think Francis has one

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Speaker 1: fight left on his PFL deal. John Nash thinks he

801
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Speaker 1: might already be out of the window of that deal.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, who is actually benefiting

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Speaker 1: here from Dana White clinging to prior grudges? And how

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Speaker 1: big would it in Ganu return be if he fought

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Speaker 1: aspinall to repair that whole of this Jones aspinall, or

806
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Speaker 1: maybe even this Jones and Ganu fight not happening at all.

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Speaker 5: It's a great question. So let me just say this.

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Speaker 5: As you indicated, folks have been like, hey, is Francis

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Speaker 5: even eligible? That is somewhat up to different legal interpretations.

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Speaker 5: As you indicated, John Nash, says, there is one interpretation

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Speaker 5: based on how the length of the contract has expired

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Speaker 5: or reached a certain threshold, I should say, so therefore

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Speaker 5: it's no longer relevant, certainly publicly. You heard mixed messages

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Speaker 5: from Francis I could come back. How do you know

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Speaker 5: I want to come back? You know who says I'm

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Speaker 5: leaving PFL, you know, kind of playing it?

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Speaker 1: Well that weet real quick if you just flash that

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Speaker 1: and ganeo tweet up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, put that up on the screen if you can.

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Speaker 5: There long Island Luke, Did I ever say I'm coming back?

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Speaker 5: Right exactly? So he's played a little bit with that

822
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Speaker 5: as well. But to me, none of that is the point, right.

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Speaker 5: The point is not is he available? That's not really

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Speaker 5: what Dana said, although he kind of intimated it a

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Speaker 5: little bit like on a few different levels he'd be

826
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Speaker 5: surprised if he got back there. But what Dana basically

827
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Speaker 5: said is said there is without saying it, and we

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Speaker 5: kind of just know this is the way that he goes.

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Speaker 5: And he actually had said previously he'll never be back,

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Speaker 5: not at this press conference, but at another one when

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Speaker 5: ultimately Francis left for the PFL. The reason why the

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Speaker 5: question of whether he's even available isn't even the right

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Speaker 5: one is because the real question is what would be

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Speaker 5: the good faith argument in service of the fans' interests?

835
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Speaker 5: What would be that argument that precludes Dana White in

836
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Speaker 5: the UFC from even being open to the idea, right

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Speaker 5: because a he could still be you know, difficulty of

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Speaker 5: getting out right now and it's not really a relevant question.

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Speaker 5: Or be they could be open to the idea, but

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Speaker 5: maybe Francis wants, like, you know, some absurd number thirty million,

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Speaker 5: and they're just not going to give him that. Right.

842
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: But even that's not the point. The point is that

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00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: they're saying they're not even open to the idea. How

844
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 5: can you possibly look at the state of this division?

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Speaker 5: And they also said they wanted to make it up

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Speaker 5: to tom Aspinall. I can scarcely think of a better

847
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: way to make it up to Tom Aspinall and frankly

848
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: to the UFC fans more broadly and inject some life

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Speaker 5: into this heavyweight division than if possible, to bring Francis back.

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Speaker 5: But there's he is saying he's not even open to

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Speaker 5: the possibility of that. There is literally not a single

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Speaker 5: good faith interpretation of that in service of the fans.

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00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 5: Ask a basic question, which is what you did? Whose

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00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: interests are served by? I sing Francis out again, not

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Speaker 5: even entertaining the possibility of it. Is that in France's interest? No,

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00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 5: but you may not care about those. Is it in

857
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: UFC's interest? I would actually argue it's not not at all.

858
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 5: It doesn't service them even a little bit. And more

859
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 5: to the point, is it in the interest of MMA

860
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: fans and UFC fans specifically to not have the other,

861
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: by the way, the lineal heavyweight champion and the other

862
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: dominant figure frankly in the sport at this time in

863
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 5: that weight class, to have them together with Tom aspitall

864
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 5: perhaps the most exciting talent in all of MMA, who

865
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 5: also just happens to be a heavyweight. There isn't one.

866
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 5: There isn't an argument you can make in service of that.

867
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: It is absurd on its face. Now, BC, if they

868
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: try to make a deal and Francis wanted you know, hey,

869
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: I want green cheese on the moon, well what can

870
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: you do? But until we even get to that point,

871
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: this is not what business that actually has to compete

872
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: for your dollar would ever say something like this. This

873
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: is literally in defiance of their very own face and base.

874
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: What business that has competition breathing down their neck and

875
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: nipping at their heels would ever say we don't need

876
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 5: the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. Guys, people ask

877
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 5: me all the time, what are the problems with monopoly?

878
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 5: You're fucking looking at it?

879
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah you are. And you know, no one's knocking on

880
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: the door in terms of UFC's MMA hold and power

881
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: and the number one slot unless they continue to do

882
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: stuff like this in my opinion, And look that John

883
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: Jones fallout here is embarrassing. It's it's ridiculous, it's disappointing,

884
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: it's everything. And then you package on this absolutely embarrassing

885
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: quote from Dana that makes it all about him. What

886
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: because Francis is not a good guy? John Jones, Connor McGregor.

887
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: We don't care about who's a good guy in this

888
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: business for the most part, right, We care about it

889
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: like they make money, can they make fun fights? Whatever?

890
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: It's showing you that this is some shitty p personal grudge.

891
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Why And I've had so many people come at me

892
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter in the last two days and be like,

893
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: how are you defending this guy? Francis, He obviously, you know,

894
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: tried to swerve Dana and lost. Well, I mean you,

895
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: first of all, it feels like he won because he

896
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: became a free agent. Kind of screwed PFL with that

897
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: big deal, but he made big money in boxing. And

898
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not here to try to put Francis up as

899
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: like the greatest person of all time. He's a human

900
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: being like all these people. But could Dana have fixed

901
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: this hole by saying, look, John made his decision, but

902
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm available, my phone's open. I wouldn't be fully against this.

903
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: I mean they, I mean, like, good luck Tom to

904
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: hearing Dana say you know, we'll, we'll, we'll make it

905
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: up to him. Ask Tachi Palace how that worked for them? Okay,

906
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: please ask them. Here's Dana quickly on whether he regrets

907
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: enabling John Jones for two full years.

908
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 9: Right here, just back to the Tom Aspin and John

909
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 9: Jones situation. Do you regret do you somewhat regret the

910
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 9: time that you gave John Jones to to make his

911
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 9: final decision that he took so long and the whole division?

912
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: Do I regret the time that I gave him? Listen,

913
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: if you look at what he's accomplished in the sport.

914
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: You know, No, no, that is what it is. I

915
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: I I obviously feel bad for Tom that he lost

916
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: all that time and obviously money, but yeah, we'll make

917
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: it up to him. Tom Aspernall is a good guy.

918
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 2: He's he's been incredible through this whole process that we've

919
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: gone through. He's been willing to do anything, fight him anywhere,

920
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: at any time and do this. And now he's he's like,

921
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: I'll fight anybody. You tell me who, and I'll fight him.

922
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: So Aspinall has been great. He's going to be a

923
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: great heavyweight champion for us, and I'm excited to work

924
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: with him.

925
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: This is why the company's broken right now. And I

926
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: don't want to hear well, they're not broken financially, No,

927
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: they're not, because they're taking from you, the MMA viewer,

928
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: at every possible you know, stretch that they can. So

929
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: it's like John Jones does this to you, does this

930
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: to the company, does this to the fan baseball. We're

931
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: not gonna say aything bad about him, but Francis dared

932
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: to challenge your monopolistic, traconian contract system and crawl through

933
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: the shawshank pipe to get out and now he's the

934
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: biggest evil villain heel of all time, Like this is

935
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: this is embarrassing. Vince McMahon, for all his faults, would

936
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: not have done this. So, Luke Thomas, what do we

937
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: what is the heavyweight division going to look like moving forward?

938
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Especially if in Gon who's not going to come in

939
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: to fill that super fight slot. Who is out there

940
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: that would interest you for a Tom Asminal fight? And

941
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: is there anything the company can actually do to quote

942
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: make it up to him.

943
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 5: They could sign Francis and Ganu, you know you want

944
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 5: to make big? I mean how big would a Tom

945
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 5: versus Francis fight be? There's certainly a debate about that.

946
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he'd be blockbuster in that sense. But

947
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a lot bigger than him versus Gone.

948
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a lot bigger than him versus Jalaton

949
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 5: al Mada. It's gonna be a lot bigger than him

950
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: versus Curtis Blades for the third time, or Kuneiev or

951
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 5: anybody else that thinks Sergey Spivak for however many times

952
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 5: they've already fought already.

953
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Tak the Tour of Tafa the

954
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: same night.

955
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 5: That's yeah, you know, like maybe it's like Tom Asman

956
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 5: I was like five fights on the main card and

957
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 5: it's just Tom versus five Taper brothers. That actually would

958
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 5: be kind of interesting. But short of that, this is

959
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it's specificly a common obviously BC because this

960
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 5: is simply where we are now. I want to be

961
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 5: clear about something. Even if they did sign Francis, we

962
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: all have to recognize that doesn't actually fix the problem. Now,

963
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 5: it would fix the short term problem quite a lot,

964
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 5: because you could get potentially two and this is getting

965
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 5: a little greedy, but you know, there's a world where

966
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 5: you could get three. But you could certainly get two

967
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 5: fights between them, and that's that's not enough to save

968
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 5: a division, but it's enough to make for a better

969
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 5: calendar year while other things can happen at play. But

970
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 5: once those fights are over, you still have this other

971
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 5: situation that we have. And I know, for example, One

972
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 5: Championship just announced today that they're gonna have rugg Rug

973
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 5: versus Anatolely mallikin for the second time. Either of those

974
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 5: guys could be signed to the UFC, and I think

975
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 5: that would be a benefit to them. You could get

976
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 5: the deem nemkov BC and I think that would be

977
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 5: a benefit to them. There are some other names out there,

978
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 5: and maybe long term Gable Steveson is a name you

979
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: could go after that you really wanted to would be available.

980
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: But like, this is the reality. The heavyweight division isn't

981
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: just a problem in UFC. No, no, no, it's a

982
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: global shortage of talent issue. That's the problem. And that's

983
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: why this reluctance to even entertain the idea of Francis.

984
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 5: It's like, how can you look at the state of

985
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 5: the heavyweight division, which to my mind, as someone who's

986
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 5: been watching MMA for a very long time, longer than

987
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: some of you have even been alive, how can you

988
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 5: look at the state of this division and say it's

989
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: in anything other than borderline ruin. You just lost its

990
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 5: biggest star, John Is, for all of the other problems,

991
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: far and away the biggest star, arguably the one of

992
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 5: the bigger stars in the company, obviously certainly at heavyweight.

993
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: He just walked or certainly on ice for the time being.

994
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 5: And you don't even have the like the willingness to

995
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 5: be like, Okay, what are some other great options for us?

996
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: Francis is at the top of that list, so asking

997
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 5: what can they do. One thing that Dana White said

998
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 5: at the UFC Baku presser BC and I saw a

999
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 5: lot of groans about it, which is they're going to

1000
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: have double, potentially in the next television deal, double the

1001
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 5: amount of Contender series fights. Now, if that is done

1002
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: as a real way to comb through talent to see

1003
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 5: what the diamonds in the rough are, I don't necessarily

1004
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 5: have a problem with it. I don't know if that's

1005
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: going to solve their problems or not, because another interpretation

1006
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 5: BC could simply be that they want to have double

1007
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 5: the amount of Contender series fights just to have double

1008
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 5: the numbers of Contender Series fights to meet contract demands

1009
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 5: for simply more content, right, which, in case, you're not

1010
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 5: solving the problem at all. Also, somebody said something to

1011
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 5: me recently who might have some idea about these matters

1012
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: that basically anybody who used to be an interested in

1013
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 5: American heavyweight isn't interested in anymore. The wrestlers aren't coming over,

1014
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 5: you know, you're not getting the same kind of talent acquisition,

1015
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 5: and you're just seeing a bigger focus on places where

1016
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 5: the American dollar goes a little bit further over, the

1017
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: ease talent, Russian talent, you know, Brazilian talent, where they're

1018
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: willing to take you know, a ten and ten to

1019
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: them might be still a decent to good financial deal,

1020
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 5: whereas it's just not for an American heavyweight trying to

1021
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 5: compete in this kind of American market. So the answer

1022
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 5: is BC, everyone has a bit of an issue. It

1023
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: just makes the reluctance and the repudiation of Francis and Gon,

1024
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 5: who frankly incomprehensible and I'm going to say unjustifiable.

1025
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, not to mention that if in Goan would

1026
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: beat Aspiral, I guess you'd be the first person to

1027
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: be tweet and that they want to come back. John

1028
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Jones just a heads up on that. Well, now, look,

1029
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: put out a poll to the people asking who they

1030
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: want next for Tom Aspiral. Thirty seven percent went to

1031
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: Cyril Gone and Tom is an early offshore book favorite

1032
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: at minus three point fifty. Should they make that serial

1033
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: gonfight thirty four percent wanted poets On, twenty three percent

1034
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: Volkoff and five percent Blades and Luke. You mentioned that

1035
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: good news for one championship that goes down November sixteenth

1036
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: in Tokyo when one one seventy three gives a cole

1037
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: main event rematch for the heavyweight title rug RUG against

1038
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Anatoly Mallikin and also superbond in the main event against

1039
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Musaki Nori. So check that out for one championship fans

1040
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: out there, all right, that is topic number two. Let's

1041
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: light into topic number three, and that is UFC Baku

1042
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Fight Night, which certainly for a Saturday afternoon card, did

1043
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: give us a lot to talk about with that light

1044
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: heavyweight five round main event. Luke, this was to decide

1045
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: who's coming and who's going in that light heavyweight title picture,

1046
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: and it turned out Khalil Rowntree Junior showed off that

1047
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: evolution of his maturity following the title loss to Poeton

1048
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: by patiently picking apart former champion Jamal Hill en route

1049
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: to three knockdowns and a wide unanimous decision victory that

1050
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: was fifty to forty five on two of the three scorecards,

1051
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: despite lusty booze in round four from the Baku crowd,

1052
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: the thinning Baku crowd for the lack of action. How

1053
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: impressed were you overall by thirty five year old Khalil

1054
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Rowntree's performance.

1055
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: Pretty impressed, pretty impressed, not hugely impressed. But I don't

1056
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: want to sit here and say I thought it was

1057
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: some kind of let down. I don't think that's right.

1058
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 5: I think actually, in general, it was good, commendable, and

1059
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 5: otherwise serviceable. I did not walk away floored, nor did

1060
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 5: I necessarily walk away with the feeling that whatever chances

1061
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 5: he had at getting a title surged, you know, like, oh,

1062
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 5: I have renewed confidence beyond what I had seen previously

1063
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 5: that you know, there's enough here to make me think

1064
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 5: he can unseat the champion. I would not dismiss his threat,

1065
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: but again, it didn't. It didn't change the way that

1066
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 5: I had necessarily calculated the threat that he has. It's

1067
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 5: a real, but I think somewhat remote threat, and I

1068
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 5: stay in that place. Nevertheless, we had talked last week

1069
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: about what he was riding heading into this fight, and

1070
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 5: we were saying, it's kind of strange that here comes

1071
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 5: Roundtree off of a loss, off of a fairly brutal

1072
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 5: stoppage loss in the way it actually finished, and yet

1073
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 5: he's the one riding momentum into this. He's the one

1074
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 5: riding you know, like high and renewed and with like

1075
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 5: vigor and a pep and his step, and I did

1076
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 5: think you saw some evidence of that. He hurt and

1077
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 5: wobbled and rocked and battered to a degree. Jamal Hill

1078
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 5: in not the first round, but in virtually every other

1079
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 5: round he did that to him. He didn't do much

1080
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 5: necessarily beyond that. Each round it was kind of weird, right.

1081
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 5: We see there'd be these like clear, good, punctuated moments

1082
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 5: where he would leg kick him and you would see,

1083
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 5: you know, Jamal Hill try and get his balance, or

1084
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 5: he got dropped a couple of times, and there were

1085
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 5: flash knockdowns. He got up pretty quickly, but you know, memorable, punctuated,

1086
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: dominating moments and then not necessarily a ton on top

1087
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 5: of it. However, as he indicated in the post fight

1088
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 5: pressor BC, he had said, listen, I wanted to make good,

1089
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 5: smart decisions, get the W but also showcase you know

1090
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 5: that I can win over the course of a long fight,

1091
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 5: and I can make good decisions and not you know,

1092
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 5: make mistakes. Fair Enough, I thought he accomplished that. So

1093
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 5: it sounded to MEBC like the mission that he had

1094
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 5: set out for himself he did, and that the confidence

1095
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 5: that we had detected in him that he said he

1096
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: had I think showed up. I just can't say, Wow,

1097
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 5: I'm learning about Khalil Rowntree for the first time. I

1098
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 5: feel like he is now turning in what I kind

1099
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 5: of always thought he had in him. And it's great

1100
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 5: to see, but not necessarily like blown away by it.

1101
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 5: Still two thumbs up on a very quality performance.

1102
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: It's weird. It plays into some things that I have

1103
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: an issue with round Tree, especially when he faces more

1104
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: lead opponents, is that he doesn't throw enough strikes. But

1105
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: in this case it worked perfectly because he worked from

1106
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: the outside. He brutalized Jamal Hill's leg, and really what

1107
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: he exposed with his constant stand switching was that Jamal

1108
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Hill in the orthodox stance right, they're both soft paws.

1109
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: After Jamal Hill was forced to protect that right leg,

1110
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: he just wasn't effective striking. He didn't have that base

1111
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: to throw punches off of. He was only throwing one

1112
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: punch at a time. So it almost leads me to

1113
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: say this, look, you and I both picked Jamal Hill

1114
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: somewhat confidently. As much as yes, I did see the

1115
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: evolution of round Trees IQ in his mind, he didn't.

1116
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: He wasn't there to be hit. There wasn't a point

1117
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: where he just switched on the crazy brawling and gave

1118
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill a chance. He won on his own terms,

1119
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: But I almost feel like in the process it exposed

1120
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill more than it showcased Round Tree. And now

1121
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: you've got everybody going, was Jamal Hill ever that good

1122
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: to begin with? Or is that victory over a forty

1123
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: somethingter Glover to Shera after they you know, tried to

1124
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: find other people to fight for that title. Are we

1125
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: seeing the complete limitations here on full display? I mean, Luke,

1126
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I got to get your take. How disappointing of a

1127
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: performance was this from Hill, who didn't even really have

1128
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: that urgency in round five when his corner was like,

1129
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: you need to go in there for a ko. It's

1130
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: still one punch at a time.

1131
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 5: Dude, did you did you see that? Hill thought, So

1132
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 5: he goes to his corner after the fourth round and

1133
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 5: they're like, you know, he gives this corner. He gives

1134
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: his cornerman a look whence cornerman's like, you know, he

1135
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 5: might be up, and he was like, like, you know,

1136
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 5: incredulous at the idea.

1137
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: Same thing when they read the decision, he was like,

1138
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: fifty to forty five, why yeah?

1139
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 5: And I'm like, and I'm like, dude, you know I

1140
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: could see one round for him too, if you were

1141
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 5: being like outrageously generous. But even that is like not justifiable,

1142
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 5: and certainly fifty forty five was just a fible. I mean,

1143
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 5: I think Jamal Hill's got a couple of problems, and listen,

1144
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 5: here's the reality. And he might see this and get

1145
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 5: mad because I think he just kind of does this thing.

1146
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 5: But I promise you, dude, I I don't get any

1147
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 5: joy out of getting out here and been like, oh

1148
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: Jamal Hill perform bad. It doesn't I'm not out here

1149
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 5: trying to score points or settle some kind of thing.

1150
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 5: He's done nothing bad to me. I don't have any

1151
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 5: ill will towards him, and I don't know if that's

1152
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 5: gonna matter. He might get still get mad, but I

1153
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 5: mean that sincerely, and I hope you see if he

1154
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 5: does see this, I hope he sees this part of it.

1155
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 5: I got nothing against the guy in anything beyond what

1156
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: I'm just talking about here, but he does seem to

1157
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 5: me have two pretty big problems. The first problem is

1158
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 5: the biggest one, which he just doesn't seem to have

1159
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 5: the requisite self awareness and I think allowing himself to

1160
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 5: be comfortable with the idea that there are things not

1161
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 5: great about what he does, and like it's okay to

1162
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: see yourself in a positive light, it's okay to big

1163
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 5: yourself up. In fact, those are important and he should

1164
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: do those things. But if you do it to such

1165
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: a degree that you have a hard time engaging with

1166
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 5: your limitations, how is it benefiting you? That's the first

1167
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 5: thing I'm going to say. The second thing I'm going

1168
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 5: to say is, guys, I mean, the reality is this.

1169
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 5: If you want to be you know, if you want

1170
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: your a skill to be your boxing both defensively and

1171
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 5: offensively in mma, again, no problem. But if you're a

1172
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 5: a headhunter, that's an issue. And b if you can't

1173
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 5: really get it going because the delivery system that you

1174
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 5: use to get into an out of position, which is

1175
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 5: your footwork, is really holding you back. You know, you

1176
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 5: just have to reflect on that and beyond honest about it,

1177
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 5: you have to say the footwork is it's a problem

1178
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 5: for him, man, it's a problem, and it's getting him

1179
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 5: into trouble because it just he over commits. Dude, that

1180
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 5: fight could have been much worse. I mean, the reality

1181
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 5: is a lot of times what you see from from Hill,

1182
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 5: Hill's got good vision and good reaction timing. He actually

1183
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: has very good timing based on what he does. In

1184
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 5: certain ways. You could see he was just a little

1185
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 5: bit short with some of those counter check hooks over

1186
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 5: the top, but his timing was there. The placement was

1187
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 5: a little off, but the timing was there. He actually

1188
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 5: is pretty good about that. But the reality is his

1189
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 5: feet are often in the wrong place. Or what you

1190
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 5: saw with YEARI Year, he would slip and then counter him.

1191
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 5: He would turn defense into offense. Dude, round Tree let

1192
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 5: him off the hook. There were many times Roundtree was

1193
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 5: either evading big time or getting out of the way,

1194
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 5: and you could see was loaded up for a huge

1195
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 5: counter but played it a little bit safer obviously to

1196
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: get the double, which I don't have a problem with.

1197
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 5: But this is what I mean about Hill. Hill kind

1198
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 5: of got to reprieve with that. He had nothing to

1199
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 5: say about getting his leg battered other than switching stances,

1200
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 5: but that didn't really serve his defense. His defense is

1201
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: kind of low. One hand, his chin, one hand is

1202
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 5: floating whereas Khalila has both hands you know up, his

1203
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 5: guard is up and around height eye level, and that

1204
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 5: enables him to catch and then shoot a little bit better.

1205
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 5: He just seemed like everything was tighter, smoother, more put together.

1206
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 5: Because I think Khalil's probably spent a little bit more

1207
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 5: time engaging with his shortcomings. I think he'll has some

1208
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 5: questions to ask himself. I do think he has ability, yes,

1209
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: but these bigger problems we see are holding him back.

1210
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 5: And I don't think there's anything else you can take

1211
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 5: to the contrary.

1212
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't want to take away from

1213
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: round Tree. It was a smart, you know, nicely executed win.

1214
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: He adjusted, He made adjustments around four by starting to

1215
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: throw those looping lead shots, and he was landing at

1216
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: will on Hill. I just don't think that game plan

1217
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: of such low output from Roundtree will work against most

1218
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: of the Lead's light heavyweights. It just worked perfectly here,

1219
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: probably because he battered that leg so early. But look,

1220
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: it's like we both said, he'll just has more ways

1221
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: to win. We think he's the better fighter. He took

1222
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: that belief away from me, unfortunately. So what do you

1223
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: make of Hill after the fight being incredibless about the

1224
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: scores and then cornering Roundtree to the point where Herbding,

1225
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: the referee, was trying to kind of get nervous, trying

1226
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: to separate them, and essentially I think accused round Tree

1227
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: of running or not engaging in what the TV cameras

1228
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: picked up was round Tree said, you're not easy to read.

1229
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: I have to protect myself. Again, that just seems to

1230
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: fall into the like, Damn, Jamal Hill didn't just not

1231
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: have it here, dude, he didn't have anything in this fight.

1232
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and again kind of harassing your opponent after you

1233
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 5: got you had twenty five minutes to do something about it,

1234
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 5: and now you're a minute twenty six. You've got an issue.

1235
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 5: It's just not This is not the kind of thing

1236
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 5: champions can do, you know. And you could say, oh,

1237
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 5: what do you know? Fine, disagree with me, but show

1238
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 5: me which champions overtime? Mean, dude. GSP was a champion

1239
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 5: because he was keenly aware of his limitations, because he

1240
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 5: was keenly in tune with the things he needed to

1241
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 5: get better at, and a guy who wasn't that keenly

1242
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 5: in tune with his defense his shortcomings. At times, he

1243
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 5: was but at times, most times he wasn't is bj Penn?

1244
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 5: And look at the difference, dude, Look at the difference

1245
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 5: and how uneven the results are for Penn versus a

1246
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 5: guy like Saint Pierre. You can't say that Pen's not talented.

1247
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 5: But if you're not willing to look at the things

1248
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 5: you're holding you back more honestly and more openly, then

1249
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 5: they will continue to be the things that hold him back.

1250
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 5: You're going to continue to have long looks and like

1251
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 5: you know, surprised faces at decisions you don't understand, and

1252
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 5: judges making reads you don't get. And of course, BC

1253
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 5: you know the reality, you can retreat behind that. Oh

1254
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 5: the judges did me wrong, Oh the fans don't understand me.

1255
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 5: Oh it's me against the world. You can find a

1256
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 5: place to hide in all of that, but none of

1257
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 5: that is going to make you better. You simply have

1258
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 5: to look at it. And I know it's not easy.

1259
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 5: I know it's not easy if you're a prize fighter

1260
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: to sit there and say I'm bad at this kind

1261
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 5: of thing. But one thing I noticed, We see this

1262
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 5: is a small other thing is I noticed because I

1263
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 5: have the same problem, and although I work on it,

1264
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 5: pretty actively. He's got super flat feet Jamal Hill, and

1265
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 5: that just leads itself to all kinds of orthopedic injuries.

1266
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 5: If you don't treat it, it's not to me no surprise.

1267
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 5: You know that he had an achilles issue. I think

1268
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 5: these things are all positively correlated. Is he doing anything

1269
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 5: about that? This is what I mean, Like, there's just

1270
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 5: so much that I think he's got something to build

1271
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 5: off of that's real, that that that that's not a mistake.

1272
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 5: He's got something to build off of there. But if

1273
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: he's unwilling to look at the things that are holding

1274
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 5: him back, I don't know how much more he can build.

1275
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he needs to get in the best

1276
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: shape of his life. You know what I mean to me?

1277
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 5: In bad shape? Did he did you well?

1278
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: I thought in the picture we showed during fight week

1279
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: that it was an improvement.

1280
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 5: But he's always got a little belly, but I got

1281
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 5: a little.

1282
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: Dadbod going, which isn't impossible for a light heavyweight to

1283
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: have that, and you don't. And if that's not the

1284
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: judgment zone between if you're good or bad, I just

1285
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of hit a wall now. Not

1286
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: only do I think bringing in maybe a new look

1287
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: into camp, trying to round out his game. I mean

1288
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: they had said on the air that him and round

1289
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: Tree don't have a career successful takedown in the UFC.

1290
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I think some changes are needed, meant to be made,

1291
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: and one of those might be let's get in the

1292
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: best shape of your career and see what happens because

1293
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: of that. See what that unlocks and opens up in

1294
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: your game. What unlocked when this fight started was the

1295
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: mass exodus from the Baku crowd at two am. Here's

1296
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: the shot of a fan inside the arena here after yikes.

1297
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean that was live on ABC right there.

1298
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 5: Bach.

1299
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: There were a lot of locals on that card, and

1300
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: one of them who had a huge night was Raphael

1301
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: Physive in that Coal Maine event. We said this might

1302
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: be the best fight on paper coming in as Physive

1303
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: at lightweight. Welcomed bahamondes Luke, who was looking in that

1304
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 1: of course, for the biggest win of his career as

1305
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: he was streaking coming in on a three fight win

1306
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: streak as Physive, although there were circumstances involved, came in

1307
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: on a three fight losing skid, but at the end

1308
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: of the day, thirty to twenty seven phasive across the

1309
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: board against Ignacio Bahamonde, who did start to land some

1310
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: shots in that third round, but he had a deal

1311
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: with that trademark phasive elusiveness to get out of the

1312
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: way of his kicks. Luke Faziv said after that second

1313
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: Gae Chee loss, in which he took the fight on

1314
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: six days, notice that you'll see the difference in his

1315
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: next fight with a full camp. What do you say

1316
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: about full camp physive and how he essentially just took

1317
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: away everything that makes Bahamond's dangerous here in a shutout

1318
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: decision win.

1319
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, we weren't sure how it was going to play

1320
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 5: out because, as we indicated, there was a height advantage

1321
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 5: for Bamondez as well as a reach. He had both

1322
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 5: of those, which is bigger in boxing, bigger in kickboxing potentially,

1323
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's hard to know exactly what that means in MMA,

1324
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 5: and that turned out to be one of these scenarios here.

1325
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 5: I thought Theazi looked good be see and some of

1326
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: the things that we had said about him, I think

1327
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 5: in generally proved true. It's like, Okay lost twice to

1328
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 5: Gai Chee, that's not great, but the loss to Gamrot.

1329
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 5: You know that fight was still very early and he

1330
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 5: was doing well on it before he got injured. You

1331
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 5: basically only really lost to one guy, you know, Granded

1332
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 5: three losses in a row, hadn't won since twenty twenty two.

1333
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: But there was another sort of picture of quality there

1334
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 5: and I think that showed up here BC. Once you

1335
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 5: saw Faziv get the range and figure out what Bob

1336
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 5: Mndez was throwing. You saw him kind of plant his

1337
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 5: feet and then just get out of the way of

1338
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 5: stuff and then counter and he used his explosion speed

1339
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: combination work.

1340
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: At times he kicks nice time takedowns.

1341
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 5: Nice time takedowns. The reality is this though, it's like,

1342
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 5: first of all four eve getting back in the win

1343
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 5: column critical, Second of all doing it with you know,

1344
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 5: a relative not not a huge amount, but a relative

1345
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: amount of style. You know, there's a big a bit

1346
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 5: of a confidence building performance, very very important. You know,

1347
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 5: these are all critical things. But again, did that teach

1348
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 5: me a lot about exactly where he is at the

1349
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: top of the division. No, it tells me he's definitely

1350
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 5: still top five guy or you know, right around that

1351
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 5: for me, But that Bob Moundes probably has a little

1352
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: bit further to go. The issue to me was really

1353
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 5: more about what I learned about Bob Munde's not so

1354
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 5: much what I learned about physive and to me, like

1355
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 5: for example, BC, like the thing I wasn't sure about

1356
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 5: with Bob Mundez before this fight was he throws a

1357
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 5: lot of stuff, and I wasn't sure how strategic it was.

1358
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 5: Like he likes to be active, and then through that

1359
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 5: activity things emerge, and then he likes to follow up

1360
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 5: on them. So for example, he might throw one two,

1361
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 5: it doesn't score, someone you know, rolls off, he grabs

1362
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: their head and goes for it and knee right like

1363
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 5: he just reacts to that knee based off of how

1364
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 5: the situation unfolds. But Faziv denied that a lot. To him,

1365
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 5: he never let him get going and as a consequence,

1366
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 5: there was never anything to build. More to the point,

1367
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 5: Bob Mundez just throws a lot of stuff to throw

1368
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 5: without really thinking strategically about it. How many times did

1369
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 5: you see him throw a spinning of different varieties of it,

1370
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 5: but basically a variety of a spinning kick, never even

1371
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: to the body. They can going to the head. This

1372
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 5: guy is built to plant his feet and lean to

1373
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 5: get out of the way. Why are you spending three

1374
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 5: rounds throwing kicks that are never going or highly unlikely

1375
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 5: to land against a guy like this. It's a bit

1376
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 5: of a fight IQ issue.

1377
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: There were shamming his jeb too.

1378
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 5: I think it wasn't even hardly. I mean there was.

1379
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 5: I think the second round he kind of sat behind

1380
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 5: it a little bit, but there's a lot of times

1381
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 5: to your point, he's just reaching and that's fine. You

1382
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 5: can probe with it, but you got to vary it

1383
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 5: up too. He was just kind of just probing with

1384
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 5: it the whole time. And this is what I mean.

1385
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 5: It looked to me like, you know, it is physive

1386
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 5: coming or going, is not Joe coming or going. And

1387
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 5: it looked to me like mob Mondez still a lot

1388
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 5: to be excited for, eager for the fight, does has

1389
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 5: offense in a lot of places, but doesn't have a

1390
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 5: lot of systemic thought given to what he's doing, doesn't

1391
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 5: have a more organized game Phyzve does, and that you

1392
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 5: can see what the difference looks like along with a

1393
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 5: lot along with that foot speed and explosivity that he's got.

1394
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: The guy that was had such a disadvantage in heightened length.

1395
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: He never stopped moving, so full camp physive does matter.

1396
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: He never gave him a solid target. And then the

1397
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:12,879
Speaker 1: fact that he makes.

1398
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 5: That's not true. No, that's not true. He moved a lot.

1399
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 5: Now he go back and watch he moves a lot

1400
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 5: in the first round, and then at various other places

1401
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 5: you'll see him pick it up. But as that fight

1402
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 5: gets longer, what you actually notice as Physive stops moving.

1403
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: The trunk movement though picked up.

1404
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I'm sorry, Yes, I meant to say, he's

1405
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 5: not like, you know, constantly going laterally, you know whatever.

1406
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 5: He would stop and then get out of the way

1407
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 5: and be just outside that range. And that's what kind

1408
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 5: of frustrated me about bomb Monde. Is like you're measuring

1409
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 5: him and then you're throwing these spinning kicks that aren't

1410
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 5: even coming close. There's got to be a better way,

1411
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 5: you know.

1412
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was an experienced gap. Ultimately, in the end,

1413
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: here is Physiv talking about what he wants next at

1414
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five pounds.

1415
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 10: In my mind, first one after this toll guy, he

1416
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 10: is a then hookah, Yeah, he's he's the one more

1417
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 10: tall guy, you know, and I like to fight with

1418
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 10: tall guys, do.

1419
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 9: You expect the same war with because he also loves

1420
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 9: the Quodi fights like.

1421
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 4: You man, he's a man. Here's a man.

1422
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 10: He how many crazy fights he have and he deserved

1423
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 10: one more crazy fights? And he he have a place.

1424
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 4: Now.

1425
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 10: I don't believe this place like when I'm lost to Gamera,

1426
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 10: like I don't.

1427
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't.

1428
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 10: I don't lost that place. Really, you know, it's my injury.

1429
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 10: And so this place now he hold, I won't take

1430
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 10: it back.

1431
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: Luke, I'd be down for him and Hooker.

1432
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 5: Let's do it. Sounds like a great bout. What is

1433
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 5: there to dislike? Let's make it.

1434
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: Let's keep going down the car. There were twelve fights

1435
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: in all, by the way, only two ended in a stoppage.

1436
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: It turned out to be the third longest card in

1437
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,919
Speaker 1: terms of time and you UFC history in Baku on Saturday,

1438
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: but Luke Thomas quickly on this matchup. We thought for

1439
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: thirty four year old Curtis Blades it might be a

1440
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: stay busy fight against pfl Alum and the debuting risvon Kuniev.

1441
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: But dude Blades got lit up in this fight and

1442
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: was almost not lucky but fortunate to come away with

1443
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: a split decision win. Is he on the wrong side

1444
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: of it? At thirty four? What happened here?

1445
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 5: Well, I think he tore his MCL Is that and

1446
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 5: that what he said?

1447
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: I did not hear that part.

1448
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 5: Then, Yeah, he injured his knee and he was just

1449
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 5: trying to survive out there.

1450
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: I remember he said that, Yes, he said that.

1451
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 5: So if that's true, then I think I can look

1452
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 5: the other way because I still think highly of his ability.

1453
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 5: And his movement was weird, and I'll be honest, I

1454
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 5: thought Koneyev won the fight. But if it really is

1455
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 5: an injury, that explains it. And again I'm saying, if

1456
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 5: I don't know for sure, I'm taking his word for it.

1457
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 5: But to the extent that that's real, I still think

1458
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 5: Curtis Blade. I still think he's got I mean, he's

1459
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 5: got known weaknesses, right, it's not like a thing we've

1460
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 5: never seen before. But BC, I still believe his ability

1461
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 5: to do well if need be against good opponents.

1462
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Mike to bec or Abali.

1463
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: Did I say that correctly?

1464
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 5: I think it's Mike tebec or Mick tebec oral Bi

1465
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 5: or by thank you.

1466
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: He takes on another debutante in Tofique Musayev, who has

1467
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: a who was on a great run and certainly has

1468
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: a respectable background coming in. Look, this was a dominant

1469
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: first round submission win. But I think or By missweight

1470
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: by something like ten pounds, so or By coming off

1471
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: that absolute brawl with Rebetski that was insane, but he

1472
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: lost it. Now he looks like a killer in a future,

1473
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: a future killer, Luke, how much do you take away

1474
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: from the weight mess?

1475
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 5: Ten elude? Ten pounds for oral bony.

1476
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 3: They agreed to a catchwight like at the last minute,

1477
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: so like it might have been on Oralby's end, but

1478
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: he technically didn't missweight.

1479
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 5: It was I was gonna say, I didn't understand it

1480
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 5: in those terms either. I tell you what, dude, he

1481
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 5: looks pretty fucking good. He looks good, dude. That that

1482
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 5: I mean. Tovik Masaia is a hammer limited and like

1483
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 5: like all guys are, but oral By just took the

1484
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 5: fight right to him, made a good decision. It's like,

1485
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna I'm not gonna strike it out

1486
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 5: with this guy longer than I have to. And he

1487
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 5: does strike it out with him some obviously, but then

1488
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 5: takes him down establishes the threat, he gets back up,

1489
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 5: takes them right back down and like again. He's got

1490
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 5: a variety of these takedowns that are all looked out

1491
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 5: pretty good. And do the way he passed from half

1492
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 5: to side, stepped over the head. I'm telling you, folks,

1493
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 5: once they step over the head, it's a fucking rap.

1494
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 5: And he got it and had that guy screaming in pain.

1495
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 5: And he did this in the first round. Dude, Mike

1496
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 5: to beec oral By. That's a name to pay attention to.

1497
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 5: He looks like the real deal. Oh yeah, oh yeah?

1498
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 5: Is there any question about his courage in the pocket zero?

1499
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 5: So keep an eye on him. I like what I'm

1500
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 5: seeing from him, all right.

1501
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: The Ray Longo and John Wood trained and Marob devosh

1502
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: Villi teammate Nazim Sodakov had a hell of a performance

1503
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: in an absolute war, improving to eleven to one and

1504
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: one overall four zero to one in the UFC, taking

1505
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: on a very game Nicholas Mota with Rashon Evans in

1506
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: his corner and after two action packed rounds we had

1507
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: a brutal knockout. How bright is Sodokov's ceiling? Now? Moving forward?

1508
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 5: I think that his ceiling is I don't know, I

1509
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 5: don't know. I'll say this, that was the best fight

1510
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 5: on the card. It was thrilling, and I was so

1511
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 5: impressed with his surviving, his survival ability. And dude, you

1512
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 5: notice the rampage roles he was doing right. You're you're

1513
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 5: supposed to grab behind the head, but you can just

1514
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 5: kind of go to the ear if need be. You know,

1515
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 5: you see that in the first round when Mota is

1516
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 5: like just just just hauling off on him, dropped him,

1517
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 5: seemed like for a moment, he recovers, then puts it

1518
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 5: on him, and then finishes him off in the second.

1519
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's hard to say exactly what the upside

1520
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 5: of something like that is. But you know, if you

1521
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 5: had any question about his metal, if you had any

1522
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 5: questions about his durability, if you had questions about what

1523
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 5: kind of bearing does he show under fire, a bunch

1524
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 5: of those got answered. And that's all part of a

1525
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 5: bigger piece of the puzzle. We need to see some

1526
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 5: of those other pieces, but as far as those are concerned,

1527
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 5: check approved.

1528
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. His only blemish is an all action draw with

1529
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: Slava clause Boreschavs. So he's really coming together he's got

1530
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 1: a great team behind him Long Island. Look quickly, we

1531
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: got a loaded show. Anything else on that undercard that

1532
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: you and I were watching in the a row with

1533
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: Gaff on Saturday in the mid by.

1534
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 5: The way longest twelve round fight card in UFC history.

1535
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 5: Twelve fight card, you mean yeah, I mean there's been

1536
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 5: longer fight cards before a card that had twelve. This

1537
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 5: was the longest.

1538
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: I want to give a shout out to Sek Young

1539
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 3: Coo for upsetting Oban Elliott.

1540
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 5: I feel like no one was really on dude thirty

1541
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 5: twenty seven.

1542
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 3: He looked good on the ground, those wrestling exchanges and shit,

1543
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, this card was pretty bad.

1544
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 5: I don't know it was ass right it was, but Cheeks,

1545
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 5: it was really good.

1546
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: There you go.

1547
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 5: I gotta say, dude, I thought, you know, we've kind

1548
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 5: of been over already. But it's just worth mentioning because

1549
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 5: I do those watch alongs, so I have to turn

1550
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 5: the volume down. I don't wear an earpiece. I have

1551
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 5: a speaker right here BC outside my monitor, and so

1552
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 5: I have to turn it down so I can barely

1553
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 5: hear it, but I can hear at least enough to

1554
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 5: absorb the bigger points and it seems suspiciously quiet. And

1555
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 5: then I went back and I listened afterwards, and I

1556
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 5: was like, no, it wasn't. It wasn't my how low

1557
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 5: my volume was. There just wasn't a crowd. It was

1558
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: in well.

1559
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: They also had crazy audio issues. It would go out

1560
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: for two seconds randomly all the time.

1561
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, espn.

1562
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's a debuting crowd. We also

1563
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of bissing on that broadcast.

1564
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 5: I mean, he is chatty, He's chatty.

1565
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: God, all right, Luke, we got to keep this show

1566
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: move in ten minutes away. By the way, from special guests,

1567
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: Brian Norman Junior, the unbeaten boxing welterweight champion under the

1568
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: top rank banner who's going to slide in following his

1569
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: breakthrough victory. Let's get into topic number four Brian Norman

1570
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: Junior on the way, but let's talk a little bit

1571
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: of boxing right here. Canelo Alvarez and Terrence Crawford, they're

1572
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna throw down September thirteenth on Netflix Allegiance Stadium in

1573
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. The first I guess fully promoted zoofa boxing card,

1574
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: although that was the co promoter for Mayweather McGregor, and

1575
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: we've seen Dana of late with Tom Loffler in company,

1576
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,799
Speaker 1: but this is much bigger. Two of the three stops

1577
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: on the Global Press Store took place in the past

1578
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: few days, the first one in Riot on Thursday, and

1579
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday at the Fanatics Fest in New York. We

1580
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: not only had an appearance from Dana White, Dana announced

1581
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: that Max Kellerman would return to boxing, would be on

1582
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: the call. He also spoke at the press conference, and

1583
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: then you got Turkey tweeting not a picture of Lampley

1584
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: and Kellerman, which is teasing who could be calling that fight.

1585
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: But Luke, we learned a lot. I think we learned

1586
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: a lot from these two pressers. Some of it was weird.

1587
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: There was a lot of Turkey involved. But what were

1588
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: your biggest takeaways for a fight that's being billed as

1589
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: the biggest in a decade. Now that we have seen

1590
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: Canelo and Crawford face off twice, talk a little bit

1591
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: of trash. In fact, let's show the video of the

1592
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: face off on Sunday and then we'll get Luke's reaction.

1593
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Here Bud did rush up against Canelo. You can see

1594
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: the size of Bud right there, he's bulking up. Then

1595
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: you get a Canelo push. Some people were saying, oh,

1596
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: they're laughing, it was a chummy push. Other people are saying,

1597
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: look at the intensity in Canelo's face. Dana was loving it. Luke,

1598
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: what did you learn about this fight from the two

1599
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: stops on this press tour?

1600
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 5: One more to go? As you indicated, I would say

1601
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 5: I have mixed mixed feelings about it. Uh. On the

1602
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 5: one hand, as you indicated, great to see Max Kellerman back.

1603
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 5: I think he can only add gravitas and make the

1604
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 5: broadcast better. So happy to see that he's back and

1605
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 5: getting some work. I mean, he was definitely out there

1606
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 5: simping for Turkey and Dana, which is funny because I've

1607
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 5: heard him speak about UFC pay before. But I guess

1608
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 5: oll'swell that ends well, Oh dude.

1609
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: He called Dana the greatest promoter of his lifetime and

1610
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: he was gaglin on Turkey. But that's his new boss, Luke.

1611
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1612
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean they're they're cutting the check, so I

1613
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 5: guess they get to see how you tap dance for it.

1614
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 5: But in any case, I do think he's gonna be

1615
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 5: great for the broadcast and I'm glad to see him back,

1616
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 5: So that's cool. I'm glad they're doing a media tour.

1617
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,799
Speaker 5: I think that's good. It definitely seems like some people

1618
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 5: are getting hyped up because of it. That can only help.

1619
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 5: But I just can't help but feel like with all

1620
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 5: the money that's going into it and all the promotional

1621
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 5: effort that's going into it, I appreciate they're doing a

1622
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 5: lot of promotion for it. They put out this new

1623
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 5: Goats podcast, you know what I mean, They're doing a

1624
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 5: multi city tour. They're just talking to the press everywhere

1625
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 5: they go. They were at the Fanatic fan Fanatics Fest

1626
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 5: whatever it's called in New York City, that big convention.

1627
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 5: You know, they're out there making the rounds, and I

1628
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 5: think that's all going to be a big deal. Being

1629
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 5: on Netflix can only help. But as you indicated to

1630
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 5: me to BC, you know, you heard Turkey kind of

1631
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 5: apologize to a big executive at Netflix during the course

1632
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 5: of this press tour stop, which I thought was you know, basic,

1633
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 5: essentially confirming the reporting on this that like Nick Kahn

1634
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 5: had to rescue it. My biggest takeaway, BC, is I

1635
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 5: appreciate that this fight is happening. I appreciate the money

1636
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 5: that they're putting into it, and I also appreciate the

1637
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 5: work that they're putting into it. Going on these press tours,

1638
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 5: they look nice, engaging with the fans, engaging with the media,

1639
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 5: getting people excited about it. Two thumbs up for me

1640
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 5: in general on that. On the other hand, BC, I

1641
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 5: can't quite get rid of this nagging feeling that it

1642
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 5: all feels a little forced. The push feels a little forced,

1643
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 5: the matchup feels a little you know, I'm happy for it,

1644
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 5: but it doesn't feel like the natural fight for frankly

1645
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 5: either of them. It's kind of being thrust together that

1646
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 5: their beef, you know, they were seeing eating with each other,

1647
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 5: and then the boxing world got bitter and now they

1648
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 5: had that push, you know what I mean. Like, so

1649
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 5: it sounds like I'm just being a hater and a complainer,

1650
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 5: I promise I'm not. I'm excited about September. I'm excited

1651
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 5: about Max Keller, but I'm excited about this fight. But

1652
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 5: do you get the nagging feeling that it's just a

1653
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,839
Speaker 5: little like some part of it just doesn't feel organic.

1654
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 5: They're trying to force it, and some of that just

1655
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 5: isn't quite clicking for me, I.

1656
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: Can understand that. And as you said, it was interesting

1657
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: to hear Turkey confirm that it took Nick Con to

1658
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: save this fight being on Netflix and talking Turkey into it.

1659
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: And then he apologized to Bella Netflix as he called

1660
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: there the CEO there and basically said, sorry, but I'm

1661
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: doing this on Netflix because of Nick Con. Only that

1662
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: was interesting. Let's pause this discussion because we do have

1663
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: a very special guest coming in and I'm talking about

1664
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: the twenty four year old on beaten WBO welterweight world champion.

1665
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: They call him the Assassin two, Georgia's own Brian Norman

1666
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: Junior on Morning Combat. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

1667
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 4: All right. The intro, I like the intro.

1668
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, get fired up with us right here, four days

1669
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: removed from going to Japan and spectacularly knocking out Jin

1670
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: Sasaki with a left hook from hell, hitting his head

1671
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: on the canvas. And boy, do we have a lot

1672
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: to talk about your future, but I want to talk

1673
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: about the past. Where did you come from? You seem

1674
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: to drop into boxing, you became a world champion. You

1675
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: look like a finished product at age twenty four. I

1676
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: know you've been grinding for years, but I look at

1677
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: you as a refreshing addition to not just the welterweight

1678
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: scene but American boxing. Welcome Brian Norman Junior.

1679
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome.

1680
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 11: But I am not a finished product at do you

1681
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 11: want you to know that?

1682
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 4: This was just me introducing myself to.

1683
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 11: The whole world there in Japan as well, shout out

1684
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 11: to Jessisaki.

1685
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 4: But things had to be done.

1686
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 11: I had to keep living my legas they and making

1687
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 11: a name for myself.

1688
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just twenty four years old right now, you've

1689
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: improved that record all the way up to twenty eight

1690
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: and oh with twenty two. KOs So let's start right here.

1691
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: What are you bringing in your eyes to the welterweight

1692
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: division that is not there? What makes you special among

1693
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: the elite at one forty seven?

1694
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: The playing old love of the game.

1695
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 11: A lot of people now I don't see the real deal,

1696
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 11: love of passion and just straight up throwing hands at

1697
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 11: the end of the day, that's what boxing is about.

1698
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 11: You got guys over here saying, look at my clothes,

1699
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 11: liquor what I got on. You got guys over here

1700
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 11: saying a whole bunch of just unnecessary stuff. I don't

1701
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 11: care about what you're driving, I don't care about what

1702
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 11: clothes you're wearing. I don't care about the women you around.

1703
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 11: Can you throw these things? Put your dukes up and

1704
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 11: let it.

1705
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 4: Let's lay down.

1706
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,839
Speaker 11: That's all I care about. And a lot of guys,

1707
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 11: you know, they not on that. A lot of people,

1708
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 11: not real deal world champions. They get their belts and

1709
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 11: they go home and they try to protect it right

1710
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 11: there in their little pocket.

1711
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 4: No, I'm a world champion. I'm like throwing Manila.

1712
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 11: I'm like all of those great fighters in the past

1713
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 11: that fought everywhere. Marvin Hagler, ELEMENTA fighting in the UK,

1714
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 11: shoot cal brookn Aerospence UK once again. So it's fighting

1715
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 11: worldwide instead of just fighting right here down the street,

1716
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 11: around corner on the block, you feel me. So I

1717
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 11: am trying to show up everybody. I'm a true world champion, Ryan.

1718
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 5: So let's talk about that left hook that polished off

1719
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 5: Jen Sasaki. He jabs you excuse me, you jab him

1720
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 5: to the body. Then he wants to get it back

1721
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 5: for some reason and jabs you to the body. And

1722
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 5: then you saw it there? Did you were you baiting

1723
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 5: that left hook? Did you know he was going to

1724
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 5: react that way. Talk me through how that ko happened.

1725
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 4: I knew exactly what he was going to do.

1726
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 11: And as you started the day before, I was sizing

1727
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 11: up Jin and I seen he look he look up

1728
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 11: to me. I don't know if it's my energy or something,

1729
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 11: whatever the case may be, but I seen that he looked.

1730
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 4: He looked up to me. He look at where.

1731
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 11: I am at, you know, guarded being a champion, how

1732
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 11: to carry myself or something. And we'll taking pictures at

1733
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 11: the weigh ends. I would literally see him look over,

1734
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 11: see what I'm doing, and do the exact same thing.

1735
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 11: So I knew for a fact he will copy me.

1736
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 11: So in the first round, I peaped this game playing

1737
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 11: off the top. Jab to the body. That was his

1738
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 11: whole thing. Jab to the body. I seen when he

1739
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 11: come back up, his hands is down. He's not a point.

1740
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 11: He's not ready. I said, okay, cool, I can use

1741
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 11: that to my advantage. You know, surely enough, phifth ROWND

1742
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 11: came in, he got away from the game. Plan was

1743
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 11: a jab to the body, and I done found myself,

1744
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 11: you know, found a rhythm, found a range, and boom,

1745
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 11: I jetted to the body just remind him. So he

1746
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 11: coppied me and he went right back to the jazz

1747
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 11: of the body. He didn't even wait on it, he

1748
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 11: didn't faint anything. And then of course he came right

1749
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 11: up into it.

1750
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,480
Speaker 4: And you see, I was ready.

1751
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 5: When you hit him. I often hear from price fighters

1752
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 5: when when a clean KO shot lands, they can barely

1753
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 5: feel it, even though it's super powerful, because it's so

1754
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 5: the transfer of power is so fluid. Did you feel

1755
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 5: the same. Was it just the cleanest shot you've ever landed?

1756
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

1757
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, this it felt like I just swallowed the fly

1758
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 11: something like my hands just flew through him.

1759
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 4: And I will say it was a It was a

1760
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: scary visual.

1761
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 11: Because if you watch the fight back, I was locked

1762
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 11: in on him the whole time. So after I hit him,

1763
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 11: I'm still looking at him. He was standing up with

1764
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 11: his eyes closed. I'm walking towards the corner. I see

1765
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 11: him falling back. I see his head hit the mat.

1766
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 11: And now I know that's not that. That wasn't right.

1767
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 11: You know, I heard that loud bang. I heard everything

1768
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 11: about it. Gladly, you know he's okay.

1769
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 5: Now, did it scare you a little bit when his

1770
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 5: I think it was his coach or his corner was saying,

1771
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 5: he doesn't remember the last six weeks. I mean you,

1772
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 5: I mean that's a that's a devastating punch you landed. Man.

1773
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 4: She just gave me before that.

1774
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 11: So after all the uh, you know, bound and celebrating,

1775
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 11: I was doing, Uh, I've seen him a lot of stretching.

1776
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, Okay, you's gonna wake up in a minute.

1777
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 11: I take my gloves off. That took a good little minute.

1778
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 11: I'll turn around.

1779
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: He's still sleep.

1780
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 11: So that's when it started setting in. Okay, this really

1781
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 11: this ain't a regular knockout. This hey, it's one of

1782
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 11: the ones. So I would definitely wear it at that point.

1783
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Brian, when you delivered that knockout you I didn't think

1784
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: you could do better than that until you got in

1785
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: the post fight interview and really gave a nice, uh

1786
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: sort of cryptic I don't call out or a slam

1787
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: over at unbeaten drawn boots, and that's a fighter, the

1788
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: former unified walterweight champion that you have a lot of

1789
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: respect for, who just announced the move up to one

1790
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: fifty four. You said he put on his boots and

1791
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: run basically, but I feel like boxing Twitter's like hold on,

1792
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't Brian Norman turned down one point seven million to

1793
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: fight Boots that one time? Could you give us the

1794
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: true story of what happened here? Did you have a

1795
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: chance to fight Boots? What went on?

1796
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 11: So now with that, they was trying to downplay who

1797
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 11: I was and who I am and trying to low

1798
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 11: ball me. So even with the one, we do like

1799
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 11: that number. But it's over that, Philly, so you can

1800
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 11: We're gonna give you two options. You can either move

1801
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 11: the fight over or you can moti fight right there,

1802
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 11: a bump out the numbers a little bit. They said

1803
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 11: no to both said okay, cool. Then a few months

1804
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 11: later they fight and what's my dude name? Stanionies and

1805
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 11: they gave him the best of both words. They gave

1806
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 11: him more money plus moved to fight over. And a

1807
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 11: lot of people like to try to say, but it

1808
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 11: was my biggest paycheck. I to you, you better sept

1809
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 11: whatever they give you. Stanionis got paid. Let's and I

1810
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 11: did in my previous fight before that as well, So

1811
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 11: how does he get paid more to me? And the

1812
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 11: fight bumped over? Okay, that ain't making no sense? All right, cool,

1813
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 11: We're gonna let all of that slote. We're gonna let

1814
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 11: all of that slide. They came back with a second

1815
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 11: fight and we said, cool, we can fight. It was

1816
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 11: right before this fight. This fight was already signed then

1817
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 11: Ashley the official. But they said, we wanted you to

1818
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 11: sign a contract before this fight, before the fight, before

1819
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 11: the fight day.

1820
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 4: And we said, no, we can.

1821
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 5: We can.

1822
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 4: We can sign a contract.

1823
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 11: We can talk about the contract literally right after the fight.

1824
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 4: I fight June nineteenth.

1825
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 11: We can make a we can make a call, we

1826
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 11: could talk to each other literally right after the final bell.

1827
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 4: They said no.

1828
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 11: They said I'm duck and they said this, and they

1829
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 11: said that, okay, cool. But while y'all move up literally

1830
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 11: the week of my fight, why did y'all literally move

1831
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 11: up the day before my fight? At that that's when

1832
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 11: the boots made the post. It was like were supposed

1833
01:28:58,760 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 11: to fight after this.

1834
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 4: I never said no.

1835
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 11: I just said, can I get done with this fight first?

1836
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 11: There we can make something happen. I don't know if

1837
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 11: y'all remember David Hanging and Ryn Garzi was supposed to

1838
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 11: run it back, but they not because he lost to Rolly.

1839
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 11: He wasn't focused on the task at hand. If you

1840
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 11: remember the whole bit up to the fight, they kept

1841
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 11: they ain't really care about Ryan versus Rolly or Devin

1842
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 11: versus Ramirez. They were just going Devin versus Ryan, you know,

1843
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 11: already predetermined what's gonna happen, and we've seen something happen.

1844
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 11: Then you got Caleb Plant versus Charlo that's supposed to happen,

1845
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 11: but his eyes wasn't on the prize. He was focused

1846
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 11: on Charlo instead of hoods in front of him, and

1847
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 11: we've seen what happened with that. So we're not trying

1848
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 11: to do the same as focused on fight by fight,

1849
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 11: I'm in the wrong. But when everybody else do it

1850
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 11: and they lose, now they try to down talk them

1851
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 11: and this that and the third. Hey, he's just me

1852
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 11: learning from my peers. That's all I'm doing. It's the

1853
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 11: reason why I came out there two weeks earlier to Japan.

1854
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 11: What's gonna do with that cool boy Steph? He went

1855
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 11: there the on fight we and we've seen what happened

1856
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 11: with him in his performance. I pretty sure that wasn't

1857
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 11: him at his best, but he did. He didn't take

1858
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 11: the proper precautions or whatever I did. I'm doing everything

1859
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 11: I was supposed to. I'm taking everything fight by fight,

1860
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 11: time by time.

1861
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 4: Day by day.

1862
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 11: So when we're sitting here right now, what's the day

1863
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 11: Jones twenty third were supposed to fight after this, we

1864
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 11: can still make that thing happen.

1865
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 4: I just want to let that be known.

1866
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: Well, I certainly can understand, and I think that's whise

1867
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: the way you're operating on a fight by fight basis

1868
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,839
Speaker 1: and giving that respect to your opponent. After Boots announced

1869
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the move up to one fifty four, I did see

1870
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: an interview with him where he said, doctors looked over

1871
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: his body stats and found that he's only operating at

1872
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: thirty to forty percent of himself at one forty seven.

1873
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: How do you respond to that? And let me add

1874
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: on the back end of that, do you think he

1875
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 1: could have made one forty seven one more and fault you?

1876
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 11: I got a question for you. I got a question

1877
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 11: for you. Pulled the panel back up, theah, go pull

1878
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 11: it back.

1879
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 4: Look.

1880
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 11: I got a question for you. What does a doctor

1881
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 11: chick like? What test do they run to say at

1882
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 11: one foot to seven? You not performing that? You only

1883
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 11: matter of fact and give you an estimate. You only

1884
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 11: perform that thirty or forty percent.

1885
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 4: What do they check?

1886
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know.

1887
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: I never heard that before.

1888
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 11: I don't think that's a Look people, it sounds amazing. Yeah,

1889
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 11: my doctor said, so now it's off you. A professional

1890
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 11: stated this, So it's a it's a it's a real

1891
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 11: deal thing that happened. Man, Forget all that. All those

1892
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 11: doctors and everything. They just like us, they be googling stuff.

1893
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 11: They be Look, I've seen it. I've seen it firsthand.

1894
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 11: Somebody googled what to do and in my face. So

1895
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 11: just because they are so called professional things of that

1896
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 11: nature don't mean nothing. But also even if they're professional

1897
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 11: things of that nature, don't pass for it. And then

1898
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 11: all of that, what do you check to know that

1899
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 11: you are only performing at thirty or forty percent?

1900
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 4: I want to know. I really didn't want to know. What.

1901
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 4: What test did they run? Do your blood say something?

1902
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't believe your blood say anything? Like what?

1903
01:31:59,080 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: How?

1904
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 11: And now if you say you're a nutritionist said this,

1905
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 11: I'll probably give you a pat because you know, they

1906
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 11: saying you ain't eating enough of it something like that.

1907
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 11: He didn't say, it's nutritions, he said. His doctor said,

1908
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 11: And he gave an estimate on how much he said

1909
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 11: thirty or forty percent?

1910
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 4: How that make sense? What test did they run? I

1911
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 4: want to know.

1912
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:18,799
Speaker 5: Let me go tasting.

1913
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: I want to get that too.

1914
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 11: I will get how good am I performing at the

1915
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 11: SAIFO I need to go up, will go down?

1916
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 4: Well?

1917
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: Lately you have been for performing at one hundred and

1918
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: forty seven percent, it seems. Let me ask you this.

1919
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: If Boots is gone now there'll be two belts up

1920
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: for grabs. But the other title holder in this division

1921
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: in the WBC is Mario Barrios, who has a fight

1922
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: coming up July nineteenth on PBCTT pay per view against

1923
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: forty six year old Manny Pakiao. How do you read

1924
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: that fight? What are your thoughts on that? Now?

1925
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 11: It's a hard one to read simply because of course

1926
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 11: Mario Barrios is a great fighter, but also man.

1927
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 4: I packyall got them cavs muscles there.

1928
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 11: I know he got bricks in them rus So in

1929
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 11: here legend, so anything is still possible. I know if

1930
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 11: he laying one, it's gonna do some serious damage. I

1931
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 11: mean we've seen he the only one that beat the

1932
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 11: one time Keith Thurmy, So we've seen what he could do?

1933
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 4: What if you do it again? So we never know.

1934
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 5: Yoh, let me see your your left hand, Brian, you

1935
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 5: got stitches or skip? Yeah, what happened there? Sure?

1936
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 11: I got I got them on both hands. Actually that's

1937
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 11: the crazy part.

1938
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 5: Wow taught me through that she broke broke.

1939
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 4: Both of my hands.

1940
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 11: I gave my I gave a box of game, my life,

1941
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 11: real this and seven years old.

1942
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,440
Speaker 4: So I broke literally both hands.

1943
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 11: So that's also something else I've been going through in

1944
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 11: my pro career also. So now and you see with

1945
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 11: my past fights or whatever, my past few fights, I've

1946
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 11: been on point because now I got both hands and

1947
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 11: I'm able to operate and remember the train I was

1948
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 11: supposed to train. Literally at one point, I couldn't push

1949
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 11: ups how I wanted to. I couldn't hit the bag,

1950
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 11: I cut it far.

1951
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: It was.

1952
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 11: It was a lot of stuff that I literally couldn't do,

1953
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 11: all because my hand injuries. And of course with the

1954
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 11: attitude that I got, it was like I'm still fighting,

1955
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 11: I don't care about anything. So but it built a

1956
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 11: whole lot of character. I mean, it's hard to go

1957
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 11: out there to Japan and in in the territory, it's

1958
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 11: not just in another state, in a whole other country

1959
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 11: and still put on the performance that I did.

1960
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 4: So it taught me a whole lot of character building.

1961
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 5: Uh, let me ask you about the state of American boxing.

1962
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 5: How would you describe the health of boxing in the

1963
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:33,440
Speaker 5: United States? And if there is a problem, what is it?

1964
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 4: Soft? That's how I describe it.

1965
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 11: Everybody is just self and I ain't even gonna say soft.

1966
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 11: I'm gonna say a whole bunch of fakers. Everybody a

1967
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 11: whole bunch of characters, everybody not being who they truly are.

1968
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 4: Like boom, I'm out here doing the interview.

1969
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 11: If I get off this interview, I'm talking to exact

1970
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 11: same way, doing the exact same things. It's because this

1971
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 11: is me, this is who I am. You asked me

1972
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 11: all these same quarters. A year later, they're gonna be

1973
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 11: about the exact same because this is just who I am.

1974
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 4: I am who I am. That's it.

1975
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 11: A lot of people they seen FLORYD Mayweather and they

1976
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 11: seen how he did what he did, so they try

1977
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 11: to copy and paste the same exact thing he did.

1978
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 11: They don't realize that worked for him. That's his recipe,

1979
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 11: that's his blueprint.

1980
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 4: Let him have that.

1981
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 11: Let him bake his cake and watch it make magic.

1982
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 11: But are these other guys they more so forcing it.

1983
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 11: I know they're not being themselves, and it's just like

1984
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 11: they are being over a disrespectful just because that's what

1985
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 11: sales fights. That's what dud know, your performances, what sales fights.

1986
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 11: That's what's in my book.

1987
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 4: Are you putting people to sleep? Are you being entertaining?

1988
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 11: At the end of the day, I don't care if

1989
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 11: I saw a windmill or batcan or slap.

1990
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 4: If I put somebody to sleep, y'all gonna love it.

1991
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 5: Where are you now? Are you still in Georgia?

1992
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm back in Georgia now?

1993
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you you're from Decatur. Yeah? What high school

1994
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 5: did you go to?

1995
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 4: Now? With the MLK Martin Luther King Junior High School?

1996
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 5: Okay, right, I went. I went to Mariota in Valdost,

1997
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 5: so you know, I know a little bit about that area.

1998
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 5: All right? Hey, how much How long before you're headlining

1999
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 5: at Nationwide Arena in Atlanta with a big fight? How

2000
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 5: long before that happens?

2001
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 4: Soon? Probably soon? I mean I'm doing my thing, y'all

2002
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 4: see it. So I'm going globe.

2003
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 11: But now, now, it's trying to take it back a

2004
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 11: little local, a little bit, you know, have a little

2005
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 11: homecoming or something. I mean, that would be a blessing,

2006
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 11: that would be good. But we shall see what was

2007
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 11: next one.

2008
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Well, Brian, you're the assassin to your father, Brian Norman,

2009
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: the assassin one, a former pro himself. Did he come

2010
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: out of retirement earlier this year at forty six for

2011
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 1: a comeback fight? What is that like for your dad

2012
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 1: to be still in the game like this?

2013
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 11: Scary? That's exactly what is it scary? Because once again

2014
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 11: he was forty five at the time. Forty five ain't

2015
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 11: did a push up for nothing in like ten fifteen

2016
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 11: years probably, so it was very, very scary. But the

2017
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 11: boy bad, I see exactly right. I hope I got

2018
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 11: it from.

2019
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 4: Shoot.

2020
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 11: He is out there doing his mouths everything without me

2021
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 11: telling him. He's doing his mouth hitting the bad jump,

2022
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 11: roping this, that, and the third eating, eating right, eating

2023
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 11: old point at the at the drop of a dime,

2024
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 11: he was on it. So I see a zacho where

2025
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 11: I got all of it from.

2026
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 4: And it was a joy to see.

2027
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: Congratulations to your pops right there, former light heavyweight and

2028
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: super middleweight maybe not former anymore. Let's close with this.

2029
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: Uh we thought welterweight was a division that needed some

2030
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 1: big names. You're establishing yourself. Boots is gone, but all

2031
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: those young kids seem to be slowly coming up now

2032
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 1: that they're becoming grown men. The Haines tail femos, Ryan

2033
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: Garcias we got rolly making big news. If you could

2034
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: pick the next opponent right now, who would you pick?

2035
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Who do you have eyes on to continue to make

2036
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:47,759
Speaker 1: your name at one forty seven?

2037
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 11: I say, besides that WBC Bill, whoever wins that fight?

2038
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 11: I say, Roy, he also got a built, so it

2039
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 11: gotta bet him. I mean, why would I give one

2040
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 11: of those other guys a chance when they don't even

2041
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 11: got a built?

2042
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 4: There?

2043
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: It is there, It is all right, get a belt,

2044
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Haney and then call Brian Norman Junior or whoever else

2045
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: George George's finest the WBO Walterway Champion twenty eight and

2046
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 1: oh with twenty two KOs Brian Norman Junior. It's been

2047
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: a pleasure to get to know you a bit. We're

2048
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: big fans. We can't wait to see your return.

2049
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 5: Man.

2050
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, boss man. Y'all keep doing y' all time.

2051
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 5: Man, thank you.

2052
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,879
Speaker 1: Brian right there from the champ Brian Norman Junior.

2053
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeahs BC, I gotta I need like sixty seconds. Whale

2054
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 5: has got an emergency. I need to go attention.

2055
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: You can't get me.

2056
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 5: I think I can solve it very fast. I'll be

2057
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 5: right back.

2058
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get back into what we were doing.

2059
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Looking back at what we learned from the first two

2060
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford press conference states that first one in read

2061
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: last Thursday yesterday in New York. I do hear what

2062
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,839
Speaker 1: Luke said. There were elements about it that were very forced.

2063
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: But you are taking a fight which is important in

2064
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: my opinion and all the combat sports that every once

2065
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,839
Speaker 1: in a while you got a program to the masses.

2066
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: This is certainly that fight. Only it's not a joke fight.

2067
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: It really has legitimate history at stake with what Crawford's

2068
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: trying to do. But there's a lot of Turkey involved,

2069
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other elements involved. Let's show some

2070
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: footage here from Thursday where Turkey is continuing this Tom

2071
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 1: and Jerry no running threat that felt pretty serious in

2072
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: the moment.

2073
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 5: Start.

2074
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 6: As I said last week, I hate Tom and Jerriyck's

2075
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 6: kind of boxing. I am sure they will deliver it

2076
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 6: from me smashing face, I'm blood and this is deboxing.

2077
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 6: I don't want to force to be having drink twelve

2078
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 6: x twelve or something like this, to have something like

2079
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:44,879
Speaker 6: this big.

2080
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Fight smashing face and blood, like, I don't know if

2081
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: I love that push. While I understand Turkey's basically like,

2082
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 1: we can't have the debacle that we had on May

2083
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: second and third in Times Square and then Canelo versus School,

2084
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: and I know Canelo's is completely laming all of that

2085
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: on Williams School, though I think some fell into his

2086
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: lap in that regard. But this is a fight that

2087
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 1: you feel like is two of the most skilled fighters

2088
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, right, two of the

2089
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: all time greats of this era. They did in that

2090
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: same press conference, ask Terrence Crawford his thoughts on that.

2091
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: Now yesterday on Sunday, Terrence was kind of answered, asked

2092
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: the same question, and he basically said, the only run

2093
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be doing is upside Canelo's head. Here's

2094
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: how Bud fielded that though on Thursday, let's.

2095
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 12: Listen, uh, his Excellency's saying no more Tom and Jerry,

2096
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 12: no more running, but you're moving up to weight classes.

2097
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 12: It's not gonna be smart for you to stand there

2098
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 12: and hammer it out with this guy. So how do

2099
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 12: you kind of balance that not running but being elusive

2100
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 12: in fighting Canelo?

2101
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 13: However, I gotta fight. I'm gonna win a simple as that.

2102
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna let somebody else force me or to

2103
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 13: tell me how to how to fight when I've been

2104
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 13: fighting my whole life.

2105
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 5: You know.

2106
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: Look, I like that he said that. I know he

2107
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: would kind of changes to and comes Sunday and say

2108
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: that he's going to be running up Canelo's head. And

2109
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: he really put out there on Sunday the idea that

2110
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: he's going to stand in trade with Canelo. But that's

2111
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway. I didn't necessarily love Turkey going so

2112
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: ham in this area of we need smashing blood, we

2113
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: need face smash, we need ko bonuses. Take that shit

2114
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: to Mma, you know what I'm saying.

2115
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean some of the reported persons, and I

2116
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 5: think this is probably an exaggeration, but they have Canelo

2117
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 5: well above two hundred million, and they have.

2118
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: Crawford out of the two fifty for Canelo one hundred

2119
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,879
Speaker 1: for And Turkey did say this will be the biggest

2120
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,879
Speaker 1: contract in the history of combat sports.

2121
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. And then also, now you got a five K

2122
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 5: five million ko bones. They don't give a fuck about

2123
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,759
Speaker 5: that five million KO boness. I mean, you know, people

2124
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 5: keep trying to do this bit. We're all, we're going

2125
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 5: to incentivize people with KOs. You're not going to incentivize

2126
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 5: people at this level to get out of their game

2127
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Speaker 5: plan and into a losing game plan. You know, if

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01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 5: it works with their game plan, they go for the KO.

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Speaker 5: If it doesn't, then they won't. It's just as simple

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Speaker 5: as that. But either here North there. But Crawford can

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Speaker 5: box a lot of different ways, and I like that

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Speaker 5: he's saying that as well. It's just you know what

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Speaker 5: ultimately we're going to get on fight night. I guess

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Speaker 5: we'll have to see. But I think, you know, the

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Speaker 5: issue for me was actually a different one. Jake Paul

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Speaker 5: was like, actually quite rightly pointed out if you watch

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Speaker 5: how they get introduced BC, they bring the fighters on

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Speaker 5: first and then they brought the promoters on afterwards, which

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01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 5: is what's usually the reverse of that. So I thought

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01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,719
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, welcome, welcome to TKO.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude. At the Thursday press conference, they announced the

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01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: fighters to come out, and then Turkey took planted questions

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Speaker 1: for the next fifteen minutes, so he can dunk on Oscar,

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Speaker 1: so he could threaten about the Tom and Jerry, so

2145
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: he could do a lot of different things there. Oh,

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01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: here's Jake Paul jumping in on the controversy that surrounded

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Speaker 1: that pick of the two fighters last week eating with Turkey.

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Speaker 1: I have heard a lot of reports that when you're

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Speaker 1: there on Turkey's dime and he calls you and he

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01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: wants you to hang out in a hotel room for

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01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: eight hours, that's what you do, Jake Paul tweeting, that's

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01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: some goofy shit. Imagine Messi and Ronaldo grabbing dinner before

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01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: a legit match against each other. Goofy, Jake Paul. Of course,

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01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: back this Saturday, competing against ifw Looke, I will say

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01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm the positive here. I like the intensity Crawford brought

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01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: to Sunday. I think for casual fans or hardcore ones,

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01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: it reminds you that this is a real fighter, This

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01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: is a real fight. Yes, this could go bad for him,

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01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 1: this also could go very well for him. What did

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01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: you make of them in that face? Off. Crawford looks

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01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: bulked up. He looks to be the same height as Canelo.

2162
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Some people were saying Canelo had those sneakers with that

2163
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: extra bit of height adage there. But I felt like

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01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 1: if Thursday felt for Sunday felt like, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a real fight. I got a little juicy inside.

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Speaker 1: I got a little happy about that.

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Speaker 14: No you I I yeah, I like that there is

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01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 14: some degree of animosity between them, and a little bit

2169
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 14: of dismissiveness from Canelo actually is irritating, but in a

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01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,799
Speaker 14: good way, right, But I still just can't get past.

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Speaker 5: How much of it is all manufactured, you know what

2172
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 5: I mean? Like I also like, you know, I listen.

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01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just who cares anymore? But the reality is,

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Speaker 5: you know, this is not who Canelo should be fighting.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking it, don't get me wrong, I'm taking it,

2176
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 5: but it's supposed to be Divibenavidez or somebody else. It's

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Speaker 5: supposed to be somebody of a similar size. And like

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Speaker 5: I just want everyone to remember, like, like ascues me,

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Speaker 5: Crawford's coming up three at well two at this point,

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01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 5: but three weight classes really, and you know, so again

2181
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 5: this is why To me, ABC, I'm like, sometimes the

2182
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 5: pieces of this whole thing don't fit together individually. I

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01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 5: like what you're pointing out. I agree, it just I

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01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 5: don't know. To me, I'm just I have it. I

2185
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 5: have it. It's not a natural rivalry, and so for

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01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 5: that reason, it's not a natural feeling that I'm getting.

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01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 5: But I don't want to be this negative Nancy all

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01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 5: the time. And in fact, i'd be lying I said

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01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 5: I didn't enjoy some of these other theatrics as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me get your final take on this

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01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: final piece of two quick videos. Here, here's Turkey, who

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01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: was upset at a few things when he sat down

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Speaker 1: at the microphone. In fact, he called them out. For

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01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: the first question by the media was asked in another language,

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01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and Turkey jumped in, was like, no, no, no, get

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Speaker 1: them out of there. We wanted international media only speaking

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Speaker 1: of Americans. Here's Turkey opening the pressure. Let's listen to this.

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Speaker 5: Turkey to floor, is your sir?

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Speaker 6: I don't know why they put me here. I want

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01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 6: to be in the site of Crawford.

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Speaker 1: Is that a joke? I don't know. Because we have

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Speaker 1: one more piece of footage of Canelo kind of bringing

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01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: that back up later in the press conference.

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Speaker 10: And I know Turkey is in your corner, but I look,

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01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:26,799
Speaker 10: look he's gonna be very difficult.

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01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 8: He's gonna be so mad that day.

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01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 5: I also have this quote. I have this quote. I

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01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 5: missed it. I had it up here. They just released

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01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 5: that press excuse me. They just released that podcast with

2210
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 5: like Tom Brady and Dana and Shaq and the Canel

2211
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 5: and Crawford all them, and I think Turkey's in it too.

2212
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 5: You know, it's fucking hilarious. But in it he was like,

2213
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 5: you know, uncle Turkey, that's how Canelo in talking to Crawford,

2214
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 5: like he goes, I know, uncle Turkey took care of you.

2215
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 5: I know he's your guy, but blah blah blah blah blah.

2216
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 5: So there's a little bit of this happening. But again,

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01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, it's cool, it's fine, it's fine.

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01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,600
Speaker 1: Hericky also put out a weird new podcast where him, Coppinger,

2219
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: and Rick Reno sit in a hotel room and talk

2220
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: about the upcoming next cards. It was kind of weird,

2221
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: but there we go. You'll see that fight September thirteenth

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01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: at lead You Stadium. Dana White was in full force

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01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday along with Max Kellerman. So things are moving quickly.

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Speaker 1: Our final segment before we get into that, she at

2225
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: looks ahead of what's coming this weekend. International Fight Week

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Speaker 1: Iliot Traporia returns, this time at one five to five

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Speaker 1: for the vacant title against Charles Olovera headlining UFC three seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and this storylines look ahead on the road to UFC

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Speaker 1: three seventeen is brought to you by Total Wireless, the

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Speaker 1: official wireless provider of UFC. Get unlimited data that won't

2231
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Speaker 1: slow you down, Luke with UFC's annual summer extravaganza upon us.

2232
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 1: Which storyline has you the most intrigue heading into three

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Speaker 1: one seven?

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01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 5: Oh? This has to be for me. I mean, listen,

2235
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 5: we knew this ahead of time, but it honestly feels

2236
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,799
Speaker 5: like the retirement however long it lasts of John Jones

2237
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 5: really kind of adds to it, which is, you know

2238
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 5: what the sport needs. The sport needs a hero. Sport

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01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,640
Speaker 5: needs a breakout star. The sport needs something that just

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Speaker 5: keeps going and rising and catches our attention. Frankly, after

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01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 5: all that's happened, you know, June's been a better month

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01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 5: than some of the other months this year, for sure,

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01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 5: but it needs a palette cleanser. And I feel like

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01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 5: we've been talking about, you know, can Ilia fight at

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 5: fifty five and get a belt and what it mean

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01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 5: if you get a title in two different weight classes.

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01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 5: But let's talk about another reality here, or at least a

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01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 5: potential reality. I should say one of the things that

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01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 5: we are considering at this moment, what if he goes

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Speaker 5: in there and not only just beats Olivera, but does

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Speaker 5: it in the most dramatic way and has an insane

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01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 5: call out of Islam Maka chev. It's so far on

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01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 5: the biggest card of the year, what could end up

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01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,759
Speaker 5: being the entire biggest card of the year International Fight Week.

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Speaker 5: To me, it's not just the ascendency, a potential ascendency.

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01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 5: I should say Eliot's porty because of course, if Charles

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01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 5: Olavera wins, this is all naught. And by the way,

2258
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 5: if Charles Olivera wins and gets back into the Championship BC,

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01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 5: I think he's got a claim along with BJ Islam

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01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 5: and Habib, but like in that upper level, maybe ahead

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01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,759
Speaker 5: of Frankie, maybe ahead of some of the other champions.

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01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 5: In this way, class. That's another one, But the one

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01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 5: I'm focusing in on is turning Ilia to Poria into

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01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 5: a bonafide new face of the organization. Can he do

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01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 5: that by becoming a second champion by putting it on

2266
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,879
Speaker 5: Charles Olavera? Can he sees this moment at a time

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01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 5: when they are desperate for someone to be able to

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01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 5: do that. Sean O'Malley just losing a second time against Morob,

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01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 5: and Morob is well liked, but he's not a breakout

2270
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 5: pay per view star. Ilia to Poria has the capability

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01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 5: to become that at the time when the company needs

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01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 5: it most. I think, honestly, BC, the reality is, in

2273
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,719
Speaker 5: certain ways, the fans almost win either way. Charles reclaiming

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01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 5: the title has a significant amount of value. Ilia becoming

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01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 5: the new person to be I'm a title on two

2276
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 5: way classes has significant value. But one man has the

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01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 5: ability to put the sport on his back and take

2278
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 5: it to new heights if he can win, and that

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01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 5: one is Ilia to Poria. I'm gonna be watching closely

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01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 5: for many things, including that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm you're You're one hundred percent right And I

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01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: really I do like this card, I really do. Uh

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01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: I am excited about it. We do get, you know,

2284
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: a Flyway title that comin event, which I think is

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01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. We do get a few things that we're

2286
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 1: looking forward to, but nothing's bigger right now than to Pooria.

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01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: It adds it ups the ay with John Jones walking away,

2288
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor not coming through that door, and Luke, I

2289
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 1: think connected to that Islam fight, I think it's in

2290
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: the UFC's best interest to play into that. We kind

2291
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: of said, as you intimated that, like there is a

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01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: scenario here that Ilia wins by stoppage and then looks

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01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: to go directly to a new division. Here's Ilia. We

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01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 1: have sound at a press conference in the past week

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01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: kind of doubling down on that idea.

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Speaker 15: If Islam becomes the Welsh Away War champion, for sure,

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01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 15: I'm gonna push for that child also and I will

2298
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 15: move to the welterweight division.

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Speaker 1: Just a reminder, this is the number one and two

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01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: poundful pump fighters in the world, Mahachev and Ilia. They're

2301
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: not fighting each other. They could have to some degree.

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01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. But Luke, I think the story here

2303
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: is if this guy gets it done and you're this

2304
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: promotion you go all in, even if it's a it's

2305
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 1: a twelve month build, you go all in on. This

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01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: is the super fight that fans should be fired up about.

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01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: It's not bringing in an old guy, it's not doing Oh,

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01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 1: these are two guys in their absolute prime. They don't

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01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 1: necessarily like each other. That the two best fighters in

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01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: the world. Let's go. Let's go in that regard and

2311
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: imagine if Dough Bronk spoils it, then we got another

2312
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: wrinkle in there.

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01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,560
Speaker 5: That's right. If do Bronk spoils it, then it's a

2314
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 5: whole different kind of conversation. You know. I think it'd

2315
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 5: be actually worse for the sport if he does. But

2316
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 5: it still carries I think a significant amount of value

2317
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 5: for oli Era and sentimentality for the fans. But huge

2318
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 5: stakes in this main evat, dude, huge huge stakes through

2319
01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 5: the sport needs a hero. And it's like I've said before,

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01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 5: Oh but he beat all my other heroes. That's how

2321
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 5: you become a hero. You destroy all the old ones

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01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 5: so that they can't even be your hero anymore. They

2323
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,640
Speaker 5: force you to become their hero to for them to

2324
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 5: be your hero by virtue of their achievements. At they're

2325
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: high enough, and you can only work into the highest level.

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01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 5: It doesn't work any other level. But if you can

2327
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 5: actually beat all these guys, you take away everything that

2328
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 5: they offer the fans and you replace it. And that's

2329
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 5: just something I've seen before. Will we see it on Saturday,

2330
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 5: I don't know, but that's on the line.

2331
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Speaker 1: Final bit of sound before we get to the ship.

2332
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 1: This jumped off of me, actually pulled it out of

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01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: the Have you seen the ship, Kevin? I only sat

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01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: down with Ilio Taporia and he had nothing nice to

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01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: say about Islam Mahachev at all.

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01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 16: Actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna say something that I think

2337
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 16: that is like that that I think that it's gonna

2338
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,839
Speaker 16: be even bigger me against PARTI than me against Islam

2339
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 16: because the one who is who that no one gives

2340
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 16: a fuck about him. No one gives a fuck eat

2341
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 16: even in Augustan when he's fighting, the people goes to

2342
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 16: sleep and they watch his fight in the morning.

2343
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 5: So so you think even at home that he's not

2344
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 5: as an attraction.

2345
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,480
Speaker 16: He went not at home, who gives a fuck about Islam?

2346
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,799
Speaker 16: Islam he doesn't even know how to pronounce two wards mm.

2347
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 1: Interesting, look, I gotta say what started as just a

2348
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 1: lustful boner for you, This is the hero we need

2349
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: right now, We need this fight. Let's go.

2350
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 5: It's throbbing right now. Metaphorically, BC, metaphorically, it's throbbing.

2351
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: Disgusting in that regard. A very good card top to bottom.

2352
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Check us out this Thursday, twelve noon Eastern Time, as

2353
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 1: Morning Combat gives you a UFC three seventeen pregame preview

2354
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 1: with our good friend Chuck Mindenhall, live from the Metal

2355
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: Larks Studios in New York.

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01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: Wait, day uh, it's it's all Taporia, Olivera here, we're

2358
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna find out who's the real king. At the one

2359
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 1: five to five. We're skipping dms from Donks here, running

2360
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: a little bit late. Just real quick, Luke, real quick

2361
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 1: on this. Brian Norman Junior very refreshing, saying I would

2362
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 1: have fought Boots for career high money, but let me

2363
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: get through my first fight. You have any fear that

2364
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: Eli is talking about Patty talking about Islam? Is he

2365
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: talking about Doe Bronx too?

2366
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 5: Do I have a fear? A little one, A little one.

2367
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 5: I would be lying if I said I had no fear.

2368
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 5: I do have some However, I also the you know,

2369
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 5: my real feeling is the big one. My big feeling

2370
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 5: is he's right about himself and what he's about to do,

2371
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 5: and you know, he's going to prove it and these

2372
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 5: are going to be irrelevant questions come Sunday. But I'd

2373
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 5: also be lying if I said, you know, oh, well,

2374
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 5: it's just Charles de Bronx, like this is some fucking

2375
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 5: scrub or something like it ain't it ain't you know?

2376
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 5: And Ilia, you know, A little, a little is the answer?

2377
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:51,719
Speaker 13: A little?

2378
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: All right, a little? All right? Morning combat at gmail

2379
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: dot com, where you can reach out to the show.

2380
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 1: One final reminder, let's get going for not this Friday's

2381
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 1: fans ship five times yesterday. All right, Well, speaking of ship,

2382
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 1: I compiled a lot of weird videos to get Luke

2383
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: to make weird reactions. This one's called BC's well, Luca,

2384
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 1: that's true.

2385
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 5: That's a true thing that happened BC. I mean, first

2386
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 5: it was logs and then it was piles, and either

2387
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 5: way it was a lot.

2388
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 1: At what point are we just this our whole this

2389
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: whole segment is just pictures of your feces. It's incredible. Hey,

2390
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: UFC was in Azerbaijan. Here is Morob Devolishvili losing his

2391
01:54:39,640 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: ship for teammate Nazim Sodakov after that Koko Nicholas Mota.

2392
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 5: How about that pop dude, right listen, Morob is a

2393
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 5: happy guy. I wouldn't want to change it for.

2394
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: Anything, speaking of nauseum side of cough, Luke, he got

2395
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 1: the double bonus after that performance in that finish of Mota.

2396
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Here is him in his hotel room losing his ship.

2397
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 2: Ready, whoa whoa usc just called my phone.

2398
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 17: You had one hundred K bonus. Yeah, yeah, open the door,

2399
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 17: Open the door.

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01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 1: Police, Yo, I just did a hundred kids. I just

2401
01:55:55,040 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: did a hundred kids a hundred, Luke. Was that celebration

2402
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: similar to you after the fifth dump or what.

2403
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 5: Mine was? More of the Shawshank redemption one, you know

2404
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 5: where you're just in the rain. But yeah, it's pretty

2405
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 5: silar Good for him, man, the me It's gonna do

2406
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 5: him some good.

2407
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And how about on Saturday flyweight to gear Uhlan Beckhoff,

2408
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: who took a three round unanimous decision over Azap Maxim.

2409
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: Check out his all star corner. We're talking about umar

2410
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: Islam Habib that have his back, Luke, if you ever,

2411
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: if we ever do like a media MMA tournament, imagine

2412
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: having this this corner, you know what I mean, maybe

2413
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 1: dropping coach Litory. This is it. This is as good

2414
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: as it gets.

2415
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 5: It's the dream team brother.

2416
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: Indeed, and he did get the win, all right, keep

2417
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 1: keep going. Here there are MMA fighters living it up

2418
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: in the wild, Luke. One of them is friend of

2419
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 1: the program, Long Island Zonwn Matt Ravola on the boat

2420
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: ripping a blot here a cigar. I can't, nocita. Can

2421
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 1: you give us a that's a cigar?

2422
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 5: If I know, Steamroller, that's a blunt show it again.

2423
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 5: It's got a cigar seal on.

2424
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 3: It looks like it might be a pre roll.

2425
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2426
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 5: It's hard to tell. Les, aren't that bit? I mean,

2427
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 5: I guess it could be a pre roll. But that's

2428
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 5: a huge ass pre roll. Wait.

2429
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 3: I did just see it in a bigger monitor on

2430
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 3: the replay, and you're right, it does look like a

2431
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 3: cigar now that I'm looking at right, Mean, you two

2432
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 3: are right, that's okay.

2433
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 1: Also in the wild is Justin Gagee at the Fanatics

2434
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Fest on over the weekend. Here's his WWE entrance.

2435
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 5: Was it me or he had some big ass shoes on.

2436
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if I picked up on that. But

2437
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: did you hear Canelo when they asked him, Hey, you

2438
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: want to promote this fight? Make some ww skits? He's like, yeah,

2439
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. I don't know if I need this, Luke,

2440
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I need that. That's just me talking.

2441
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know there's a certain audience for it.

2442
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 1: Iron sharpened iron at Fanatics Fest. Check out these two

2443
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 1: heavy hitters, Poe Aton and jay Z. Luke.

2444
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 5: That's right with the tams. Look at jay Z. He's

2445
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 5: still wearing Tims billion dollars later. Impressive.

2446
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Two other very famous people came together to rub dollars.

2447
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 1: Here's Turkey, Ala Chica and Lebron James.

2448
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, they are there together. That's that's a true thing.

2449
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 1: There we go. And also a fighter in the wild

2450
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: was TJ. Dillashaw and a scooter in which he took

2451
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 1: the l Here, Luke.

2452
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 5: Oh Man trying to mess shoulder even more of people.

2453
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 5: What to be doing here?

2454
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: I hope he didn't damage the Jackson chain that he

2455
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 1: was wearing there, Luke, that would have been something.

2456
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:58,919
Speaker 5: Is it Jackson or just Jackson?

2457
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: They call it jack but it looks very Jackson Jackson.

2458
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, Jaxon.

2459
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: It's tough for your car crashes of the week, Luke.

2460
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Check out this ejection.

2461
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 5: Yo yo yo, No, they don't when they don't respect

2462
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 5: your entrance dancing.

2463
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 1: There was some dancing going on. It ended in a

2464
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: fight that was weird. All right, Hey, look tell me

2465
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: if this is lame or cool. Here's the UFC fed

2466
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 1: featherweight bogged in grab showing off his new license plate.

2467
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 8: I thought a while about this to do the license

2468
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 8: plate before I was in the UFC, just with my name,

2469
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 8: but I was like, nah, it's too much. But after

2470
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 8: I got into the sea, I was like, Okay, now

2471
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 8: I have to do it.

2472
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 18: I have to represent the UFC. I'm very, very proud

2473
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 18: that I'm here. To everybody that is supporting me, a

2474
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 18: big thank you, Thank you Austria, thank you, Romania, and

2475
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 18: thank you to the whole.

2476
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Look. UFC one is his license plate. That feels very.

2477
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 5: He He's not going to be a guy that complains

2478
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 5: about fighter pay. I have a feeling all right.

2479
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 1: All right, now it's time for your car crashes of

2480
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: the week.

2481
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 4: Luke.

2482
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Let's see if this makes you uncomfortable.

2483
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 5: Bro, Are you showing me AI crashes?

2484
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 4: Now?

2485
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 5: What are we doing?

2486
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

2487
02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 1: That was a chair and a person on it, you see?

2488
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 5: Are you fucking blind? That was AI computer generated fucking chasing.

2489
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:44,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, Luke, I was you're showing the video

2490
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 5: game highlights? Basically, Sorry, Luke, I didn't mean to offend

2491
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 5: you on this.

2492
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 4: On this.

2493
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue on with our car crashes of

2494
02:00:53,760 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 1: the week. This one ain't AI, Luke, all right, let's

2495
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: keep it.

2496
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:07,480
Speaker 5: That was better that one.

2497
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 2: I liked.

2498
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 1: Watch this car closely here? Oh he hit an airplane?

2499
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 1: You see that?

2500
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 4: Shit?

2501
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 5: How often does that happen? Holy fuck, bro? These cessnas

2502
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 5: and shit that people get in. Yeah, I don't know

2503
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:25,400
Speaker 5: about that, man.

2504
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 1: Everyone was okay in the end. But that was an

2505
02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 1: airplane car crash. There you go.

2506
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:32,800
Speaker 5: Did you see the people in the hot air balloon

2507
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 5: in Brazil?

2508
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 1: Die?

2509
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 2: I did?

2510
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 1: That was I'm not going to put it in this show.

2511
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 5: There's someone who fell out of the thing ahead of

2512
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 5: time and then just plunged to his death.

2513
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Are you sure that that was GTA video game? I

2514
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: think that first car crash was legit, Luke.

2515
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, Long Island Luke. The first one he showed

2516
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 5: is clearly AI is it not?

2517
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 3: You know, to be honest, I didn't think anything of

2518
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 3: it until you said that, Luke, and then I was like, yeah,

2519
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 3: it does look really fake now that you say, holy dick.

2520
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 1: And let's skip ahead to BKFC Texas right here, Luke,

2521
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: did you see this face off between Jessica I and

2522
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 1: Maria Agapova.

2523
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 14: Two big names debutes and a women's fly wait division.

2524
02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 5: Ticking on Maria?

2525
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, Right, there's a good development we don't.

2526
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 5: I mean, this is perfect for MMA fans, combat swarts fans.

2527
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 5: You get ass and two women kissing. That is what

2528
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 5: they're there for.

2529
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: I would win a decision in her debut, and now

2530
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 1: they're setting her up to fight Christine Farrea for the title. Also,

2531
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Andrea Lovsky won his debut. They're setting him up to

2532
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 1: fight Ben Rothwell in a trilogy for the title. But

2533
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 1: here's Jessica I flexing on stage, Luke. Some people thought, uh,

2534
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 1: some people thought peeds, but that you know, it's impressive.

2535
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 5: Right dice to the socks, I'll admit.

2536
02:02:58,240 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: All right, Luke. If you think that UFC's octagon is

2537
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 1: overrun with ads. Check out MMA and Mexico. Let's get

2538
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:05,360
Speaker 1: your thoughts on h.

2539
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:08,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, he goes, what are we doing here?

2540
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 5: This is this is a bit much?

2541
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, all right, T shirts of the week time, Luke,

2542
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 1: let's get your thoughts on these.

2543
02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 5: Hook her with a penis. Okay, that's a lot for

2544
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 5: this guy.

2545
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 1: He looks very happy, though, to be fair, let's go

2546
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: to the next gentleman.

2547
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:29,520
Speaker 5: Eat your girl out or I will. You know what,

2548
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 5: I don't think he's much of a threat in that regard,

2549
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 5: but I dig the shirt.

2550
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 1: And finally, Luke, let's see if you own this one.

2551
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 5: I want to count the wrinkles on your stink star. Okay, well,

2552
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 5: this is a disgusting human who should be executed.

2553
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: And then he lost MK Jeopardy as well, Luke. Alright, yeah,

2554
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: there you go. Hey, look there's a new pro wrestling

2555
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 1: finishing move off the top rope. Let's get your thoughts

2556
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:58,760
Speaker 1: on it. I think that's called the izzy. Right, Yeah,

2557
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: there you go? All right, yeah, yeah, okay, he just.

2558
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 5: Wanks on you and then calls them that's.

2559
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 1: Sick, Luke. I know it's not Thanksgiving, but I'm grateful

2560
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 1: for a lot of things. Let's watch this. What are

2561
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 1: you grateful for today?

2562
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 5: My massive You know? Okay, he should have started being unemployed,

2563
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 5: because that's I bet he's more happy about.

2564
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 1: Does it turn you on when chicks get flat? Luke?

2565
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: Why are we even talking about this?

2566
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, is she responsible for the stewardship

2567
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 5: of children?

2568
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 1: I think so? I think so.

2569
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 5: I think Child Protective Services should take them away.

2570
02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: It's time to have our cake and eat it too.

2571
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:54,440
Speaker 1: Your favorite person's back only.

2572
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I just eat that remote. You absolutely

2573
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 5: insane creature from another dimension?

2574
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: She this is our two favorite things, weird cake lady

2575
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 1: for Frank.

2576
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 5: Well, let me guess she's gonna eat the video game too, right,

2577
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 5: because why would the app? Why would that be normal?

2578
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 5: Why would this be? Absolutely insane? Creature from the Black Lagoon.

2579
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 5: Go back to where you came from, you horrible alien monster.

2580
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 1: Okay, it was aggressive. Let's go to some cake and

2581
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 1: elder abuse combos.

2582
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 4: Grannie.

2583
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:31,800
Speaker 1: Hold still, yeah, she got you. Looks she did get you, right,

2584
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's going on here? Wow, this might

2585
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: be my worst batch ever here.

2586
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 5: Okay, hey, her life expectancy is Thursday and it's deserved.

2587
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 1: Caught in the act here, Luke, watch this bouncer.

2588
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,919
Speaker 3: Excuse me, sure, are you scratching your ass in public?

2589
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 4: No?

2590
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 17: Are you crazy?

2591
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 4: Get out of here?

2592
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 18: What I just saw you scratching your ass?

2593
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 14: You're crazy?

2594
02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 5: Okay, the wretching was hilarious. That was good. That was

2595
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 5: your best one yet? That was great?

2596
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 1: All right? All right, hey, look, you ever hear of

2597
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:17,680
Speaker 1: a tech and master before.

2598
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 7: Years later, it would be a massive, massive statement here.

2599
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 7: But he's got to be motile to get the job done.

2600
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 7: And I've seen Moto perform comebacks from scenarios worse than this.

2601
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 7: So this is by no means over by any stretch.

2602
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 7: Do not count this man out. I think the motive

2603
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,440
Speaker 7: might have been a little bit surprised at the amount

2604
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 7: of aggressing. He's has a face against nod just suffocation, right,

2605
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 7: especially with the fan he has moved that can evade

2606
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 7: so well in that close range.

2607
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:42,080
Speaker 4: That uPAR too, that kept on.

2608
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's a two great example.

2609
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 4: But what it is is as well, he's able to

2610
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 4: be aggressive.

2611
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: Look, it looks like he was.

2612
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 5: I'm also a world class techn player. Yes, it looks.

2613
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 1: Like he was hiding his his play. So the opponent

2614
02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 1: couldn't see what he was pressing, but it it definitely

2615
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 1: looked like he was just rocket out.

2616
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 5: He was masturbating. Let's just see what it was he was.

2617
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:05,920
Speaker 1: We got two more for you. We know how much

2618
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: you love medieval Renaissance fairs and riz, why don't we

2619
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 1: combine those two as well? Here we go. Excuse me? Wow,

2620
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 1: I really love your style. What's your name, Himella? Are

2621
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 1: you like a mind goblin or something?

2622
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 5: Mind Goblin's nuts, bitch, jesus ri. I texted her. I

2623
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 5: texted a friend of mine in other day. I was like,

2624
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 5: have you heard of the band Imagine Dragons? They're like yeah, like,

2625
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:41,360
Speaker 5: imagine dragging these balls across her mouth. Bitch, I'm not

2626
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 5: I'm not too good for it. I'm not too good

2627
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 5: for it. And the stabbing was also a nice touch too. Yes,

2628
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 5: all right, if you go to the Renaissance Festival, which

2629
02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to do because Tuki wants to go

2630
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:51,800
Speaker 5: now she saw an ad.

2631
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 1: For the video of it. Please for this show's purpose.

2632
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 5: Did I tell you what Tuki did to my wife

2633
02:07:56,480 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 5: the other day? No? First of all, my wife says, hey,

2634
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 5: we need to go because I have to go to

2635
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 5: the bathroom and my wife and Tukis sister are wanting

2636
02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 5: to ta hold it. Just tells her to hold it,

2637
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 5: and then my wife was like, get on your feet,

2638
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 5: we're leaving. Tuki gave her the throat slash. Tuki gave

2639
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 5: my wife the throat slash, and I was like, okay,

2640
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 5: we have to have an intervention here. What is what

2641
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 5: is happening in this kind of part? This is this

2642
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 5: is un this is unacceptable.

2643
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:24,840
Speaker 1: That's that's wild. Well, look, I got one more video

2644
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 1: for you, and I don't think I'm gonna get a

2645
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: good grade this week, but this last one combines your

2646
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: two favorite things, flatulence and Sweet Caroline Sweet Calu Lie.

2647
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 5: That is the song that's the original. Everything else is

2648
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 5: a cover of this song that's going to get copyright

2649
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:45,360
Speaker 5: struck for that play.

2650
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: That was mister Bethane, the the Flatulent singer and superhero.

2651
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, all right?

2652
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 5: He also him and Cake Lady should also be shot

2653
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 5: into the sun. Can we just be honest?

2654
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 1: I got to work on you know. I'm gonna start

2655
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 1: DM and Cake Lady and see if she speaks English

2656
02:08:58,320 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 1: and she's willing to come on here, because this will

2657
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 1: be the most epic piece of television.

2658
02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 5: I will I will verbally abuse her.

2659
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 1: Okay, if she ever has a bit where she cuts

2660
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 1: a dog in half but it turns on, Oh it's

2661
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:11,120
Speaker 1: just cake, then we got to bring it out on

2662
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 1: this show.

2663
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna cut a dog in half and it's just

2664
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 5: gonna be a smaller dong. I mean, it's gonna be

2665
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:16,680
Speaker 5: the world's worst bit ever. You know what I'm saying.

2666
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 1: Thank you to Brian Norman Junior, the WBO Weltroy champion

2667
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:25,160
Speaker 1: for joining us today. Thank you to Long Island, Luke

2668
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 1: on the ones and twos, Long Island. What can we

2669
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 1: expect from you in the future?

2670
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 3: What can your girl expect from I'll be dropping UFC

2671
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 3: three seventeen bet Breakdown today. I remember we went perfect last week,

2672
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 3: So tune in Main card minute.

2673
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:37,000
Speaker 5: Appreciate y'all?

2674
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, tune in this Thursday twelve noon

2675
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 1: Eastern Time as Quervo presents Morning Combat. UFC three seventeen

2676
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: pregame preview lt BC Chuck Minden Hall enough said, enough

2677
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 1: said right there, All right, Luke Thomas. We had a

2678
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 1: long but I think victorious show for the people.

2679
02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:59,120
Speaker 5: We do what we do, We did what we did.

2680
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 5: I'm happy that the fans we're here. Thank you all

2681
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 5: so much. Oh yeah, I hope that pussy. That pussy's

2682
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 5: beaten you up. How about that.

2683
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh that's the most action I've got in that category

2684
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 1: in a long time, Luke. But there we go.

2685
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you gotta put that. I want to see

2686
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:18,960
Speaker 5: a highlight of that cat smacking your shit.

2687
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:23,760
Speaker 1: He doesn't like to be like controlled anymore. He's you know,

2688
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 1: he's he's a teenager. I think Morningcombat Dot Shop for

2689
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,520
Speaker 1: all your merch needs.

2690
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah right, I gotta pick two kit from from her

2691
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:36,400
Speaker 5: first day of summer camp.

2692
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,240
Speaker 1: Tell her, I said this, Luke.

2693
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,120
Speaker 5: Bro she gave my wife the throat slash. I couldn't

2694
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 5: fucking believe it. I was like, we are raising a monster,

2695
02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:45,160
Speaker 5: a beautiful monster.

2696
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 1: But a wonderful monster. We'll see you guys Thursday. No

2697
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 1: show this Friday, but a big week. Get fired up.

2698
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 1: UFC three seventeen is here. Good, be careful out there.

2699
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:57,320
Speaker 1: It's hot, there's a war going on. Take care of yourselves.

2700
02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's like it feels like of like

2701
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 1: one oh five today.

2702
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Stay cool, Stay cool.

2703
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 1: Dirt bags for Luke Thomas, Luke Nocita and your boy BC.

2704
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 1: We love you. We're out of here. Thank you so much,

2705
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 1: good stuff. Thank you,