1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I think right now, the hope of the White Sox 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: is I don't know, being better than last being better 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: than the Rockies. 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: That's it, all right, We've got the athletics, John Greenberg 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: back on with us, and unfortunately we're gonna start talking 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: about the White Sox here to start. AJ on the 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: call this morning, John was like talking to John about 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: what what are we gonna. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: Say about the White Sox? 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Right we cover every team, so John, what should we 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: talk about? 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a good one. I mean I would 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: probably talk Cubs maybe a little more than White Sox 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: right now in Chicago. That's just my uh, just just 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: some editorial advice. The White Sox are five and eighteen, 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, which is probably about you know, they're ahead 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: of pace from last year, so they got that going 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: for them. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: Better than who They're better than the Rockies. That's why 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: I were my purple today. They're better than the Rockies. 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I think that was the That was the rejected tagline 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: this White Sox season. 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 5: You know, they went with the one hundreds better than 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: the Rockies, right, better than the Rockies was the other one. 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 6: Oh but John on this show, John, John on this show, 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 6: before AJ says anything on this show. AJ needed a 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 6: one shot for this comment. He said, they cannot be 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 6: worse than they were last year. They cannot be And 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 6: I said, maybe statistically, like in the win loss column, 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 6: But is this team worse than last year's team minus Fetti? 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? Probably. I mean it's like, you know what it 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 5: reminds you of a little bit. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we can do Chicago comparison. But when the 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Cubs like went on like their big THEO rebuild in 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, they had the most losses and the twenty 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: thirteen team was way worse because Rizzo didn't hit, Castro 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: didn't hit, they didn't have like you know that twenty 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: twelve med like Dempster in the beginning. Guys like that 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: that they end up trading. And that's kind of what 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: this team reminds me of because they have like I mean, 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: there's you look at the roster in the air, there's 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: no talent almost and the talent they have isn't hitting. 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean the guys that aren't hitting right now, it's 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Luis Roberts got up five twenty eight, Oh, ps Vaughn's 45 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: four sixty one. 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: I mean, these guys, the guys they have that are real. 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Major leaguers and you know, can do things. Are the 48 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: ones not doing, you know, not contributing. And right now 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: the rule five guys are two of their most valuable players. 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: So I think that tells you a lot. 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, we were gonna show this tweet, We're gonna save it, 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 7: but since you brought it up here. Batting averages there 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 7: they are the five worst. Three of them are the 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 7: White Side, Robert, Vaughan and Vargas. 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: I went to the Crochet game, you know, when he 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: started against them, and Crochet against Vargas was like one 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: of the most overmatched. It was like, I mean it 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: was Vargas couldn't even touch him. I basically couldn't touch him. 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think he struck him out three times 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: in twelve pitches, and he was just like waving at this. 61 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: It was I really was hoping Crochet was going to 62 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: get that. No hitter in that game would have made 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: me happy to be there. 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: What John, what's the hope? That's all I want to know. 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: What's what's the hope? I know prospects, you. 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 7: Know, prospects, farm system prospects, But who's the impact player 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 7: of the prospects. Because I've said this numerous signs. Noah 68 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 7: Schultz never is a third year of pro Ball's never 69 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 7: pitched in a fifth inning, not like you in a 70 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 7: fifth inning, which is unbelievable in three years. Okay, see right, 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 7: Montgomery's down there struggling in triple A. Right, Teal didn't 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 7: get off to a great start. Hero is obviously already 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 7: there and he's showing some signs. But is he, you know, 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 7: the catcher of the future, is it Teal? The pitchers? 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 7: Who's the pitcher? I know some of them are up already. Well, 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 7: what's the hope? I mean the prospects? What and how 77 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 7: long do the White Sux fans have to hold on 78 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 7: to prospects? 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: I mean it's gonna be a while. 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean I would say their best I think their 81 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: best prospect in terms of like impact is probably Braden 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Montgomery in class. Hey, he's the guy that was the 83 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: big you know. I think it was what red Socks 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: number first round pick last year they traded for. I 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: think he's the one that's got like real impact potential. 86 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: So how long does it take for that guy to 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: make a jump. Is he gonna have like a Cam 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Smith like, you know, like jump to the major soon. 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: I think that's it. 90 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: I mean, Caro, mydraft that they look good. At least 91 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Shane Smith shows that they got, you know, some idea 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing with scouting some of these like overlook, guys, 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean number one in the rule five whatever. 94 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: But like that's it, age. 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have any money, you know that, 96 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: and they don't you're you're I think they're relying on 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: your boat tour to provide the revenue to make this. Yeah, 98 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: make this back up, it's aj the boat. 99 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: You better be there, John, you better be there. John. 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm if Mark's the bartender, Scott Murkins the bartender, I'm. 101 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 7: Who would make any money then give all the drinks 102 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 7: away for free? 103 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: Right every girl that comes up there between the age 104 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 5: of like thirty and sixty drink. 105 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: So no, I mean, I mean, is it you know, 106 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: you know the HPS stuff with which I talked about 107 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: with you guys, Is that to hope that he's gonna 108 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: come in eventually and infuse some money with his team? 109 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 5: Is it just the prospects? 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, because they're not it's not gonna They're not 111 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: anywhere close to the point where like, okay, we're gonna 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: have some prospects like last time, and then spend money 113 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: on guys. I think right now, the hope of uh, 114 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: the White Sox is I don't know, being better than 115 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: last being better than the Rockies. 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: That's it. 117 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 6: There is there a noticeable shift in the type of 118 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 6: game the guys want to play. 119 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: I get it. 120 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 6: I understand they're not hitting above two hundred, but it's like, 121 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 6: you know, to me, it looked like a lackluster, lackluster 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 6: leadership last year from the top, from the managerial spot. 123 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 6: Have you been able to notice any glimpse Because any 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: of these prospects, anytime you talk about prospects, they have 125 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 6: to come into a system that is already established. You 126 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 6: can't just have Bradon Montgomery come in and be like, guys, 127 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 6: we're doing it this way, Like do you see a shift? 128 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 6: Has Will been able to make that shift a parent 129 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 6: or not yet? 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of and that's funny you say that, 131 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: because that's what gets was talking about when I talked 132 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: to him. It's spring training, like one on one about 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: this is they've got to kind of establish some kind 134 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: of White Sox identity. Listen, I don't think the guy 135 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I just don't think the guys believed in Griffall, you know, 136 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: and I think at least Will. They're not winning much yet, 137 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: but I think Will at least isn't kind of I 138 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: think he presents himself better to major leaguers. I think 139 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: he's got a different kind of personality. I think guys 140 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: might have a little more faith. But it's hard to 141 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: say like he's implemented something when they're five and eighteen, 142 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, through the first month. I do think from 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: what I've heard and from what I've noticed, Yeah, the 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: mood's a little better. I mean, a lot of guys 145 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: from that team are gone, so they can't you can't 146 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: really even ask guys about what happened last year because 147 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: they just weren't around for it. So I think the 148 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: mood's a little better. I mean, how could it not be. 149 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: How could it be worse than last year mood wise, 150 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: because Griffall was terrible, the team lost, you know, twenty 151 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: in a row. 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Is 194 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 7: that Will Venable's job? And then when you answer that, 195 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 7: I have one more question for it. 196 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we can get on it, right. I 197 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 5: guess it's everyone's job. 198 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: But you're right, Guts listen, Guts has to take some 199 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: questions on that because he was the farm director. Now, 200 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: I think what he will say, what a lot of 201 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: farm directors of bad teams might say, is they weren't 202 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: You might think they're responsible for everything, but they're really not, 203 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: because the people above them. 204 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 5: Make a lot of the big decisions. 205 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Like yo, hear a lot of farm directors say like, yeah, 206 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: this is my group, but like the president of the 207 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: GM made this pick or pushed us to do this. 208 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: And I think, Agent, you know, that's the problem with 209 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: the White Sox when they've had people that were there 210 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: for so long, is you never really knew who was 211 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: making the final decisions or were the decisions being made 212 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: in a manner that would please the people that were 213 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: in charge. But listen, Guts has to take some responsibility too. 214 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: But guess what, Jerry gave him the job, so it's 215 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: up to him now to kind of figure it out. 216 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: I will say, Guts, I think is at least I 217 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: found him to be a straight shooter. We in the 218 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: media find him to be like amazingly open about stuff, 219 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: so we like dealing with them. I hope that, you know, 220 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: for his sake in the White Sox sake, his vision 221 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: or whatever, and working with Will, I hope it succeeds. 222 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 7: We all do. We all do, John. But by the way, 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 7: that's that's like the GM. It's like, I need five 224 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: more years to rebuild again. Right, Oh, it's. 225 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: Not my fault. I didn't draft the players and I 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: didn't come on. I mean whatever. 227 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 7: Okay, anyways, now one last question, John, is it time? 228 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 7: And I love Jerry rhins Orf to death? 229 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: Is it time? 230 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 7: Is it time for the Ishbia brothers to come in? 231 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 7: They already own a bunch of the team. Is it 232 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 7: time for Jerry to finally because fans are clamoring for it, 233 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 7: people all over are clamoring for it, and Jerry it's 234 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 7: his decision at the end of the day. But is 235 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 7: it time for Jerry reins Orf to sell the team? 236 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely? 237 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and I you know, you feel for Jerry 238 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: from a human side. You know him, You have a 239 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: personal relationship with him that I don't, so you can 240 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: see that side how much he loves baseball and how 241 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: much he loves the game. I think it would be 242 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Jerry a great service to the fans for Jerry just 243 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: to kind of hand it over and to kind of 244 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: to kind of move out and move along. Because if 245 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: he really cares for the fans and wants to make 246 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: things better, as he said repeatedly, then he should see 247 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: that it's just time for him to go time for 248 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: him not to give up control of the team, I mean, 249 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: and let someone else do it, and you know, and 250 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: then Jerry can be remembered not only for that in 251 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: the short term, but for the good things that he 252 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: did do for the team and for the franchise, and 253 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: not just be remembered for the chaos, you know, especially now, 254 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, things are as low as they've been, so Yeah, 255 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: if I were Jerry's sons or whoever, I don't know, 256 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,239 Speaker 1: if he takes advice from anyone besides like Tony LaRussa, 257 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I would say, like, yeah, let's get like a you know, 258 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: a true like timeline to hand this over to them, 259 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: kind of like what the Guardians did with David Blitzer 260 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: and they kind of put a clock on it. I 261 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: know Jerry doesn't like to be told what to do 262 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: or put a clock on anything. If I were him, 263 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: I would do that, And I think the fans would, 264 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say embrace him, but I think 265 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: they'd at least be happy with how he's left things. 266 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 7: Got it all right? Before we go, we have to 267 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 7: talk about the other team. We just talked about the 268 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 7: other team in Chicago. Crats is crying that the Reds 269 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 7: are still gonna win the division. Are the Cubs the 270 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 7: best team in the NL Central even with their bullpen? 271 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 272 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, I think they have some 273 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: real pitching. They gotta address the bullpen, and they're gonna 274 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: need another starter because of Justin Steele. But I mean, 275 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: look at the lineup right now and listen. Are they 276 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: all gonna hit like this? But everyone is hitting except 277 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Swanson right now, which is kind of bad since he's 278 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: their highest paid position player. But everyone's hitting besides him. 279 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Tucker, incredible, ops, you know, one point seven, 280 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Suzuki Bush, They're all hitting. 281 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: You Know. 282 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: The guy that's really impressed me is pe Crow Armstrong 283 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: because now they were building him up already in Chicago, 284 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: and AJ knows how that goes here. When a young 285 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: player has like a good month, you know, they want 286 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: to like give him like six radio shows and like, 287 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: you know and make them this big star and it 288 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: doesn't always work out. 289 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: But pie Crow Armstrong is really hitting. 290 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: And that was like my big question mark going in 291 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: the season was what this guy can do. And Kyle Tucker, 292 00:12:58,559 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: like we've seen it in a lot with the Cup 293 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: where guys come in and like, you know, big stars, 294 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: and I think they kind of get I don't want 295 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: to say, like I mean Lester talked about this with me, 296 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: John Lester, just like the pressure of being with the 297 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Cubs and being that big name guy kind of gets 298 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: to guys. Kyle Tucker is awesome. He's better than like anticipated. 299 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: And the whole story now is whether it can afford 300 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: to keep them, which is kind of sad. But yeah, 301 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I think if the Cubs can add to their pitching 302 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: and they have the money to do it, I think 303 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: they're absolutely the team to beat in the NL and 304 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: better than better than I expected them to be. 305 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 6: So far came out that they'd like to extend Kyle Tucker. Well, duh, yeah, 306 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 6: how much more? How much more have they missed the boat? 307 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 6: It should have been? We traded for Kyle Tucker and 308 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 6: before he even puts on his suit coat with the 309 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 6: you know, with the jersey over top of it, we've 310 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 6: also extended him. Is this just another example of Cubs 311 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 6: ownership dropping the ball and not taking advantage of an 312 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 6: opportunity because this man gets a free agency We're talking 313 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 6: four hundred and fifty plus million. 314 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Well, rite, because in the NFL that that happens immediately 315 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: when you make a trade like that, the extension has 316 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: already done, right. I don't think Kyle Tucker wants to 317 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: sign an extension, though I don't know if he does yet, 318 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: like and especially since before he got here, you know, 319 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: he's going to make a lot of He's why wouldn't 320 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: you want to go free agency? And I know the 321 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: Union and the player I mean, the players Association wants 322 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: guys to go into free agency and to create this stir. 323 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: And even though he's not a Boris guy whatever, he's 324 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: going to have some other offers. 325 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: Now. 326 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: The question is how many teams can afford what he's 327 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: going to be looking for. So yeah, I do think 328 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: it's both cases though, because the Ricketts family has never 329 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: signed anyone close to the deal he's going to ask for. 330 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: And in fact, this team is cut payroll from last 331 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: year when they when they traded for Tucker, they had 332 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: to sell Bellinger, they had to get rid of him, 333 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: and I thought they would use that money to address pitching, 334 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: and they didn't. You know, they've gone with kind of 335 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: the scrap heap with these older guys. So it's a 336 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: real question whether Tom Ricketts has the interest in spending 337 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars or more for fifty five on 338 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: any player. And with the labor agreement getting you know, 339 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: going to end after twenty twenty twenty six, a lot 340 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: of people think Ricketts is going to be real hawk 341 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: in those negotiations, you know, looking for a salary cap 342 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: because that'll benefit him as a big market owner who 343 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: doesn't want to spend like the Dodgers, Yankee Phillies. 344 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: Why not? So why not? They can? They make plenty 345 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: of money. 346 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 7: Don't tell me they ain't making money, John, They're making 347 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 7: all They're making more money. 348 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 5: They know what to do with their ayj. 349 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: This has been like the biggest discussion in Chicago, and 350 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: no one can believe it. And people around baseball. If 351 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: you got you guys, talk to everyone, talk to execs 352 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: when you get them off the record, ask them what 353 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: they think about the Cubs and they're not spending like 354 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: they should be spending, you know, and it's a big 355 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: conversation and people are. 356 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: Really looking at it. 357 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: And now I say this, if they if Kyle Tucker 358 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: hits you know, even close to like this all year 359 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: and they don't resign them and they have a chance 360 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: to you know, it's not something where he just wants 361 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: to leave. 362 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: I don't I would. 363 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I've never seen Cups fans this angry already about something 364 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: like that. 365 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 5: And they will be. They'll be like storming Ricketts's like, 366 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: you know, suburban mansion. If this doesn't happen, well get 367 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: it done. 368 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 7: I know we gotta go, but I gotta ask. Just 369 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 7: give me a thumbs up her thumbs down. The New 370 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 7: City connect from the White Sox. Is this the laziest 371 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 7: worst attempt at just saying we're gonna give a giveaway. 372 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 7: We're gonna market a giveaway thing that we do every year. 373 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 7: Make it Bulls white sauce, Like, what do we think? 374 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: For me? 375 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: Down? 376 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: It looks like something that said Jewasco on the side. 377 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: AJ they give it the first five? 378 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 7: I agreed. I said the same thing when I first 379 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: saw them. I'm like, wow, they really got creative with these. 380 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 7: They took the Bulls Jersey made a White Sox. 381 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: They do a black Hawks one every year, they do 382 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: a Bulls one every year. Giveaways. They did so well 383 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: with the first one, right, they crushed the first one. 384 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, you gotta keep their confidence up. Okay, they're trying. 385 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: Hey, I can't. 386 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: They're giving away boat hats though, they're giving away White 387 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: Sox boat hats, so I expect to see AJ wearing 388 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: that when he's captaining the river fast as Minow. 389 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's three hour crews. 390 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about the White Sox boat cruise, 391 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: but what can happen? But I'm gonna go on it just. 392 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 7: J especially since me and Aussie are on it at 393 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 7: the same time. 394 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited for the five stuff, so I gotta 395 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: work on a story on that. I'll give you a call, AJ. 396 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: We'll hash out all right, John. 397 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: That was another tagline that did not get passed through 398 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: this year. Get on board the sinking Ship. Were like, no, no, 399 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: we don't like that. And there's a whole cruise coming 400 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: up this year. 401 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: It's just there's three cruises by the way. If you 402 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: don't know what I'm talking about, check my Twitter. 403 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: You can see enjoying a day and the five crew. Okay, John, 404 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: great catching up and you dude, appreciate the. 405 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 5: Time talking to you guys. Thank you. 406 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: Check out John's work in the Athletic