1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Fred Show. This is what's Monday? 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: It is Monday, so it I mean, it could be 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Wednesday in my brain. Who knows it's Monday. It's that 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: kind of thing anyway, Sorry if I confused anyone. No 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: one else said anything, So either no one else is listening, 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: including everybody in the building. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, or I don't know. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but Paulina, Yeah, it's your favorite week 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: of the year, your favorite what does that version of it? 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: I didn't want that. I didn't want this this. I 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: want your favorite week of the year. 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: What is it? 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 3: The DNA, The d n C is coming to Chicago. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: You're right, it certainly is already. 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 4: I know they are. 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you most looking forward to about the 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: d n C this week? 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 5: I like to hear Joe Jonas's political stance, to see 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 5: where he stands, who he's endorsing. 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well, I'm assuming you'd be speaking at the 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: d n C. 22 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 6: Already. 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 5: You never know. 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: I think we're straight on that pretty sure, Jadie Vance. 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know, it could be that 26 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: would be really shocking. Joe Biden, our president from our 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: first lady, Joe Biden and then former Secretary of State 28 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson all speaking tonight 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: at the d n C. 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: Not Dog because he's at the d n C. 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 6: N C. 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason's morning was like, no, baby, it's. 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 6: D n C. 34 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: So just just the d n C for a whole 35 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: week would be probably more entertaining. But but I'm not 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: sure the d n C. Is it all week or 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: is it just the first part of Thursday? Okay, and 38 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: if you live in Chicago, we were just talking off 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: theory about this, but like, I mean, they've basically put 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: a big cage over part most of the two parts 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: of the city, just a gigantic like bird cage over 42 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: the top of several buildings and don't even try and 43 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: get close, and like big concrete barricades and this serious business. 44 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Guys. 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: We got really important people in town this week, so 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: let's make it as inconvenient as possible for the people 47 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: who live down there. 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: That was not the week to do something crazy like 49 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: oh well, how about ever doing anything? 50 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about no crime at all? 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: I like that idea. 52 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: We have a company, yeah, right right now, it's not 53 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: the time, Okay, it's the d n C. 54 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: Guys. 55 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: This is just I just got weird stories this morning. 56 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: But in what's trending? Drinking and this is terrible news. 57 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: But for those of us, I have a gigantic cup 58 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: of coffee right here next to me, Duncan coffee. Drinking 59 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: four more cups of coffee a day can raise the 60 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: risk of a heart attack or stroke. So research has 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: found that consuming over four hundred milligrams of caffeine. Can 62 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 2: someone look up how many cups or like, I'm trying 63 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: to figure out four hundred milligrams? Like, how many is this? 64 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: Four hundred milligrams? This has gotta be. This has got 65 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: to be at least two cups of coffee. 66 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 5: What coups is four hundred millilter? 67 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh MiGs, my bad milligrams as we were looking for 68 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: basically rude coffee. Oh okay, but I don't know, so 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm probably drinking that. But four hundred milligrams of caffeine 70 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: on most days of the week could increase the susceptibility 71 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: of otherwise healthy people to cardiovascular disease. Chronic caffeine consumption, Hello, 72 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: most all of us up this early was shown to 73 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: significantly impact them nervous system, raising heart rate and blood 74 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: pressure over time. 75 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you have an extra large coffee. I do. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: That's thirty and thirty milligrams. Goodbye caffeine. Yeah, that's nice tom. 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh and this is just an appetizer. I'm just warming 78 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: up right here. Oh yeah, is warming up all day? 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: You don't drink coffee? 80 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: Yes? I always have my little ice coffee right here. 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: How many of those do you drink a day, Kiki? 82 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: One? 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: That's probably not four hundred millions, not for all lice. 84 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Coffee is one hundred and ninety eight milligle chest. 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: That's close for me. 86 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: Well, Shelley's the one that eats like wheat, grass and uh, 87 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: you know, sticks and stuff. Any caffeine for you. 88 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 7: I'll sometimes have a cup of coffee on the weekend. 89 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 7: But I you know, I did morning radio for all 90 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 7: those years. I never drink coffee. 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: See that's what I was about to say, like heart attack, 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: stroke or walking around like a zombie your whole life? 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Like, what would you prefer for me? 94 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: I picked the latter. 95 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, really not, rather not. I don't. I can't. 96 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: I can't watch around like a zombie for years. 97 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: I think a slam Well saying, but I don't know 98 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: what kind of zombie i'd be without the coffee, though, 99 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's gotta be something. So what do you 100 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: do for a pick me up? 101 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Anything? 102 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 7: Not really, no, I mean I'm trying to think, like 103 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 7: my thing is, you know, like if I like splurge, 104 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 7: it's like on a gluten free jonnut. 105 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 5: Or something like that. Like that would be my little. 106 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Spirit because I was always told that it was what 107 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: you put in the coffee that was going to hurt you, 108 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: not necessarily the coffee itself. And now you're saying that 109 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: the caffeine is you know, it could cause high blood pressure, 110 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: hypertension associated with the increased risk of coronary artery disease, 111 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: heart fail. Okay, it's all bad stuff. As I take 112 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: a sip in my coffee. Georgia Man is suing an 113 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta hospital. This was everywhere last night, by the way, 114 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: after staff allegedly lost a nearly twenty eight square inch 115 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: piece of his skull and then build him for the 116 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: replacement when they couldn't find it. So I guess they 117 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: were doing a procedure. They took part of his skull 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: out to do it, lost it. They lost his head, 119 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: and they're like, I don't know, so they put something 120 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: else in there. Like patched it up and then they 121 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: sent him a bill for them. So, this dude's name 122 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: is Fernando. He checked into Emory Hospital in September for 123 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: a hemorrhage in his brain a brain bleed. Doctors determined 124 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: a four point seven by six inch piece of his 125 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: skull had to be removed to reduce pressure, but after 126 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: returning to the hospital two months later to have the 127 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: piece of skull replaced, the hospital couldn't find it. Ooh 128 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: so sorry about that. So's a hole in his head 129 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: and nothing to fill with it. He had a large 130 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: depression of the right side of his school and the 131 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: surgery was canceled. The hospital had to find a synthetic 132 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: piece of skull and then they build him nineteen thousand 133 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: dollars for that what so Yeah, anyway, he's not happy 134 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: and he's suing one hundred and forty six thousand dollars. 135 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: They lost part of his head and I went the 136 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: hospital to pay him back for that. I think so too. 137 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Another health story. I don't know what's up with the 138 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: health stories today, but a Florida doctor is facing disciplinary 139 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: action after he performed a colonoscopy on a patient without 140 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: his hearing aid so I guess. During the procedure, the 141 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: doctor started inserting the scope before the patient was fully sedated. 142 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: The patient started screaming in pain, but the doctor couldn't 143 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: hear him because he didn't have his hearing aid in. 144 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: He kept doing this despite the screams until somebody else 145 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: walked in. 146 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Now he's being fine. Oh my god, I mean, don't 147 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: you still see that? 148 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: You still see that? 149 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. And I thought it was kind 150 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: of a narrow thing that they stuck up there. I 151 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: didn't think it was a big thing that they used 152 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: for that. 153 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I never had one to make an 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: appointment today. 155 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: In fact, I even think you had to be sedated 156 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: for it. I thought you, I mean, most people are, 157 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: but I thought you could be awake for that, right. 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about, but that sounds terrible. 159 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: And I do have that nightmare that I would have 160 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: surgery someday I would be like that one percent of 161 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: people that were conscious but couldn't communicate, which is I mean, 162 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: how many different things can I put in your head 163 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: this early on a Wednesday. It's Monday, Monday. I'm just 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: this wishful thing. I wish it were Wednesday. A former 165 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: NFL player I'm sure I'm not saying this guy's name right, 166 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: Gosder Cheriless, Cheeriless. He was arrested for allegedly causing a 167 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: disturbance and disorderly conduct on a flight. So a Delta 168 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: flight was destined for Dublin and had to be rerouted 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: to Boston. The former first round pick urinated on another passenger, 170 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: causing the air crew to request state police assistance, and 171 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: then they went back to another airport. I don't even 172 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: know where this is. He was a Tampa Bay buccaneer 173 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: and detroit lyon. Okay, yeah, so they went back. They 174 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: arrested this guy. He was uncooperative and initially refused to 175 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: I guess to work with them, forcing troopers to escort 176 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: him off the plane and arrest him. He's scheduled to 177 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: be arraigned today in Boston. The other passengers to board 178 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: the cancel flight were rebooked onto a new flight on Saturday. 179 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how messed up you got to be 180 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: to start peeing on people right right, like just right 181 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: out there and open. I don't know, And do you 182 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: want to know where the cities are with the rudest residence. 183 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: What would you think is number one? Yep, number one, 184 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: New York number one. I touch one thousand people about 185 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: the rudest people. Each person survey and answered twenty five 186 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: questions related to where they live, which areas of the 187 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: US they preferred, and what they believe made a city 188 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: or state desirable. 189 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: New York is the rudest. 190 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: Washington and Chicago at three, which surprises me because there 191 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: are ruder places I think than Chicago, Los Angeles, Buffalo, 192 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: San Francisco, Boston, Baltimore, Detroit, and Philadelphia running out the 193 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: top ten rudest places. 194 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, you're right with that. That really that hits you. 195 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 5: Yes, I've lived in Los Angeles. 196 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: If are ruder, I would think of the three major 197 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: big cities, I would say, in order of rudeness, it 198 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: would go New York, La, Chicago, And I would think 199 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: there are places that come before Chicago and rudeness. 200 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Can we get that Midwest hospitality. 201 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 5: Right with the nicest people on the planet. 202 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: We know about that, but I think so yeah, yeah, 203 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean I don't think. I don't think we're even 204 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: close to New York though, so oh god, no, in Philadelphia, 205 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean not the nicest folks. I mean no, just 206 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: so it's sports alone, right and they're not even the 207 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: number ten. 208 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: No, I don't. This is a messed up list. 209 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: It's National Soft ice Cream Day, not soft serve soft 210 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: ice cream Day, okay, and National Aviation Day today as 211 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: well Showbiz in for Kail and the entertainment reports. Next, 212 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 2: what are you working on? 213 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 7: Uh so there's actually you know, the news cycle moves 214 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 7: very quickly. I have an update from a story to 215 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 7: the last hour, so I'll tell you about that. In 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 7: terms of Dakota Johnson, we have an updates. 217 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: Room in the newsroom on the Plus. Wow. 218 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: Okay, nice job, Shelly. This is great. We're gonna be 219 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: okay all week. Two minutes away. I've ever been left 220 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Sadie, 221 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: good morning, welcome to the program. How are you hey? 222 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: Thanks? 223 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm good, all right, So a little perplexed, right right exactly. 224 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: We're trying to figure out that's honest. By the way, 225 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: over and over I keep saying it. People are like, 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm so good. I'm like, how are you so good? 227 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: You got ghosted by somebody. Somebody on the earth is 228 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: trying to avoid you. With all their might, or at 229 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: least that's what we think. But Sadie, you're perplexed about 230 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: this guy Eric. We got to know everything. How did 231 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: you meet Eric? Tell us about any dates that you've 232 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: been on, and then what's happening now? 233 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 8: I met Eric on Hinge and we. 234 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: Hit it off. 235 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 8: We were chatting for a good while before we finally 236 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 8: met up for drinks. I had a great first date. 237 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 8: I felt like it was real, sparky and fun, and 238 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 8: I was really excited to see him again. Made plans 239 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 8: that same night to meet up again. I had a 240 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 8: second date. I had a second date, got dinner. It 241 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 8: was a great time, and I was really excited to 242 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 8: keep this going. And I never heard from him again. 243 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 8: And I don't quite understand what happened. 244 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so this isn't even a this isn't a one 245 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: date ghost. This is a two date ghost situation, which 246 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 2: is kind of you know, that's a little worse, right, 247 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: because the person obviously liked you enough to go on 248 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: a second day with you. 249 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: So what happened? What happened to stop that momentum? Right? 250 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 8: And we were even talking about what we were going 251 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 8: to do next, Like it was kind of assumed we 252 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 8: were going to see each other again. So yeah, I 253 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 8: don't know. I don't know what happened. I'd like to 254 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 8: find out. 255 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's play a song. We'll come back in 256 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: like two minutes, and we're gonna call this guy Eric. 257 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: He'll be on the phone as always. We'll ask some 258 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: questions on your behalf. At some point you're welcome to 259 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: jumping on the call, and you know, the hope is 260 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: that we can straighten this out, set you guys up 261 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: on a third date in this case that we paid for. 262 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: So good eight, let's see what's going on. 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: Parts to you of waiting at the phone after David 264 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: got in two minutes, do move. It's the Fred Show, 265 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: winter Bucks with show vis Shelley in the showdown new player. 266 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: If you can beat her in five questions, you start 267 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: Monday with a big grip of cash. Hey, Sadie, Yes, 268 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: all right, welcome back. Let's call Eric. This is the 269 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: guy you went out with a couple of times. You 270 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: thought the dates went great. You're trying to figure out 271 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: why this guy's not calling you after two days that 272 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: you thought were successful. 273 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I want to see him again. You feel weird? 274 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: All right? 275 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: Well, let's see what's going on. Good luck, Sadie, Thank you? Hellhisus? 276 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: Eric? 277 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, this is Eric. 278 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Hey Eric, good morning. My name is Fred. 279 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: I'm calling for the Fred Show, a morning radio show, 280 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: and I do have to tell you that we are 281 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: on the radio right now, and I would need your 282 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: permission to continue with the call. Can which after just 283 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: a second on the air. Do you mind you can 284 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: hang up anytime? 285 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Okay? 286 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 10: Sure? 287 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: All right? 288 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. I look at this guy. 289 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: He seems almost excited. Right, we'll see if you're excited 290 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: in about thirty seconds. But we're calling on behalf of 291 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: a woman who reached out. It was her name is Sadie. 292 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: You went out with her twice on dates. You remember Sadie? 293 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, I remember Sadie. 294 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So what happened because she called us and told 295 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: us that, you know, she'd met you and liked you, 296 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: and he went out a couple of times, two dates 297 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: it was, and you were planning a third date and 298 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: then you go missing, and she feels like she's being 299 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: ghosted by you, and she wants to know why. 300 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 9: I mean, I guess it's fair that I wonder why 301 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 9: she why ghosted? I mean, so I mean I thought 302 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 9: it was going great. After the second date, right as 303 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 9: I was leaving, she gave me a present which I 304 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 9: didn't open until I got home. So I opened this 305 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 9: present and it's like a collection of harrow loss products. 306 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Wait, this is on the second days they did this. 307 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a goodie bag of like rogaine and 308 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: whatever else you used to do. 309 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 9: Your own hair, exactly exactly. 310 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: Now is it like she works for these people or 311 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: something and she had the stuff us? Either way, what 312 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: she's saying to you is you need to grow some 313 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: hair somewhere. 314 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I don't. I mean, she doesn't work 315 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 9: for hair loss company. I mean it came out of nowhere. 316 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. 317 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 9: She just felt like an insult. 318 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 6: I mean. 319 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: That didn't a deal. 320 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: I mean, who worked for Sharpie and she brought me 321 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: one color of every Sharpie that was ever? Yeah, she did. 322 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: This is a long time ago, and I was very 323 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: excited about it. Was a very nice saying that she 324 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: did for me. So maybe if I'm saying, you know, 325 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: if she worked for a dermatologist and she brought you skincare, 326 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: she worked for a dentist and she brought you a toothbrush, 327 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: like that's a very nice thing. But this is very personal. 328 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,359 Speaker 2: This is this is regardless of her, regardless of the background. 329 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: What she's saying to you, Eric is you're a bald 330 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: and I want you to have hair. That's what she's 331 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: saying to you. 332 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, what if I just like gave 333 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 9: her like some teeth whitener or something or like, you know, 334 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, that's just yeah, it was a. 335 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: Gift car for invisil line or something like. 336 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 9: Oh was a bad vibe. 337 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: Man, definitely in the date killer that would offend me 338 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: to let me bring Sadie in. Eric, I forgot to 339 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: mention that Sadie's here. I'm very very full. Yeah, my 340 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: bad Sadie Rogaine. 341 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Why. 342 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you're trying to send a message. I 343 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: know you are trying to be kind, but I mean 344 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: that's a very personal thing for a lot of people, 345 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: and insecurity. 346 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: Is that all? 347 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 8: I am surprised. I thought that I broably started using 348 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 8: this stuff and he liked it, and I thought Eric 349 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 8: would like it as well. 350 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: Maybe Eric's okay with the weird Maybe Eric doesn't think 351 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: he needs more here. Maybe Eric is maybe he's already 352 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: doing this to be self conscious about it. I mean, 353 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: if I were going out with a girl and she 354 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: brought me some blue shoe, you know, that stuff that's 355 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: supposed to make you like, you know, oh you got 356 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: to have blue chor she brought me some of that 357 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Spanish what do I call that? Yeah, you bring me 358 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: some Spanish fly over to the house. After a couple 359 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: of dates. I'm like, Okay, so what you're saying is 360 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: my machinery's not you know, properly calibrated, and that would 361 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: I would probably make me insecure, Sadie. 362 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: You got to think I wasn't trying to insult him. 363 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 8: He's really self deprecating about that. Like after our first date, 364 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 8: and so I just learned about the stuff that my 365 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 8: brother's been using, and he loved it. And I was like, oh, 366 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 8: well this is the thing that like he has an 367 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 8: issue with that he's bringing up. Then sure, here you go. 368 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Wasn't even got on you got it. 369 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: You have to turn the tables here when it comes 370 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: to when it comes to bodily stuff and aesthetics and 371 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: all of that. I mean said he what if he 372 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: brought you some sort of like a deodorant spray, you know. 373 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean you you'd be modified. 374 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 9: Exactly, exactly exactly, like know, just as somebody admit after 375 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 9: kiss him. I mean, like what, okay, you know. 376 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 11: Wants to look their best and men are like really 377 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 11: insecure about that, right, Yeah, a lot of guys super 378 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 11: insecure about losing their hair and you know how it looks. 379 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not saying I'm all about insecure. I 380 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 9: just thought it was a bad move. 381 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 6: Excuse what I'm looking forward. 382 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: He was just offended, he was offended or he thought 383 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: it was a weird gift or whatever your king, Sadie. 384 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, 385 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: I really do. I want to say that you were 386 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: being thoughtful, but you also have to know, like you've 387 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: got to turn the tables and know that when it 388 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: comes to people's appearance and and sort of related topics 389 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: like that, that requires a level of comfort and experience 390 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: with that person to know that you're not going to 391 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: hurt their feelings. And it sounds to me like, whether 392 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: he's willing to amit it or not, you hurt his feelings. 393 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 8: I mean I can see that now. And maybe that 394 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 8: was a third date move, not a second right, But that's. 395 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: A third day Kiki, that's a third day move. 396 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: You're never going to get a man like this. 397 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: You bring the toothless girl toothbrush on the third date. 398 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: You know you certainly don't do that on the never 399 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: on the first ever ever third date. 400 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 9: I mean, I mean to me, to me, that's like, 401 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 9: that's like conversation down the line. I mean, slide in 402 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 9: the conversation that your brother's taking it and then let 403 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 9: me suggest I'm interested. I mean, you know, just a 404 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 9: block footed move, man, I mean, not dating material. Like 405 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 9: what am I going to say? 406 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 407 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: I mean I hate, I hate to argue, to make 408 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: an argument by turning the tables like I tend to. 409 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, but in this case, I think that's 410 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: what you got to do. He's turn the tables and say, Sadie, 411 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: how would you feel if he did that to you? 412 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: What if he brought you the exact same product? What 413 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: is he saying to you? He's saying you need more hair? 414 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean. 415 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 9: Maybe it's so far. 416 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I hope it doesn't ruin any chance. 417 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: What if he brought you and so you think he 418 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: needs hair? What if he brought you razors in their 419 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: because he thinks you need less hair. That probably wouldn't 420 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: go over well, would it. 421 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 8: I could see that, I could see that I could be 422 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 8: an issue. 423 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Eric, So she meant well, but in this case, 424 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: she didn't read the room. I mean, can we give 425 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: her another chance? Or are we just moving on? 426 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 9: You know what, there's a lot of fish in the sea, 427 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 9: and that's just a I don't know, it's not a 428 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 9: little trust that judgment, you know what I mean. I'm 429 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 9: looking for something serious and I don't know that that's 430 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 9: a disqualifier. Sorry about that, but that's just how. 431 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: It is, all right, Sadie. 432 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: Look, I honestly believe that you probably had good intentions, 433 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: but let's just not let's not we're not with the 434 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: uh sort of bodily related products early on in a relationship. 435 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: I just think there's more room for that to go 436 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: poorly than there is for it to you know what 437 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Yes, Rufio, are. 438 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: You going to use the product? 439 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 6: Bro? 440 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: You don't need it. 441 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, what do you need? 442 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: Hair? 443 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: What hair growth product? He's going to use it? 444 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 9: I'm not going I mean, I'm just gonna go shave 445 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 9: heads at some point soon, but I mean whatever, Yeah, 446 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 9: I'm not worried about that. 447 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to put he's not going to combat it. 448 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: You know, he's our it's it's strange for Okay, it's 449 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: not going to work out, Sadie. I'm sorry, Eric, thank 450 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: you for answering and all the best both of you. 451 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 9: You I do say the best. I mean, ultimately we're 452 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 9: on the same the same pool here, and you know, 453 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 9: sure she'll find somebody. 454 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Okay, the positivity there, you know you're There's Eric saying, Sadie, 455 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: I hope you find a hairy guy soon. 456 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 12: It's a nice ball hitting man, almost boll hitting many. 457 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh lord, good luck, guys, thank you, thank you the 458 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: entertainment of for And she'll be Shelly with seven hundred's 459 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: actually Shelley with both. 460 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: Next Fred Show. 461 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: A fresh show. It's Kiky's Court night, Key Key taking 462 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: away the honorable kik Aleik. Everyone all right, okay, suit 463 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: you ask this down, go ahead. 464 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 12: Sit down, let's get in this court room at that 465 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 12: gabble now it says, hey, ke Key, my name is Eric. 466 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 12: I'm a longtime Fred Show listener, and I know how 467 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 12: much you guys love to discuss tipping all. 468 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: Right, guilty, Eric, No, he loves the Fred will. Eric's right, 469 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: and so Eric's perfect. And let's see what's next. Well, 470 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: let's play well, Eric says. 471 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 12: On Friday, I took my wife, kids, and my in 472 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 12: laws out to dinner downtown. We were seated after about 473 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 12: a twenty minute way, and from the moment that our 474 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 12: waitress approached the table, I knew we were in for 475 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 12: a ride. Her attitude was not friendly at all, and 476 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 12: she kept disappearing for long periods of time, and when 477 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 12: I asked for refiels for my kids, she seemed annoyed 478 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 12: and brought out a picture of lemonade for us to 479 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 12: pour ourselves. Then the worst part was that she forgot 480 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 12: to bring out my wife's food all together. When I 481 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 12: finally got up to look for her, she was sitting 482 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 12: at the bar laughing with her coworkers. So you can 483 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 12: imagine my frustration. When we finished our dinner and when 484 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 12: the bill came, I announced, out of frustration to my 485 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 12: family that she would not receive a tip. They already 486 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 12: include the service charge, and after the way we were treated, 487 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 12: I feel like that was more than enough. Well, when 488 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 12: we got up to leave, my father in law took 489 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 12: out cash from his wallet and left it on the table. 490 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 12: I was already annoyed, so I just walked out to 491 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 12: get in the car. But what really pissed me off 492 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 12: is that my father in law sent my wife a 493 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 12: nasty text message saying how disappointed he was that I 494 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 12: did not tip. 495 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 4: I really want to confront him. Am I wrong? 496 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Now? 497 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: Hold on, I have a question before you give your verdict. 498 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: Yes, how many people at the table? 499 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 12: So it was him, his two kids, and it's in laws, 500 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 12: so six. 501 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: So then the service charge would have been the tip. 502 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: Because what happens is with a lot of places, if 503 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: it's a party of six or more, then the gratuity 504 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: is just put onto the bill. They just put a 505 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: twenty percent gratuity on the bill. 506 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 12: But see, some people say there's a difference between gratuity 507 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 12: and a service charge. 508 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: The service charge goes to the restaurant, and right. 509 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 10: The service charges because the restaurant doesn't want to pay 510 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 10: their employement dishwasher. 511 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, maybe maybe I'm using the wrong terms, 512 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: because I thought that it's a lot of menus will 513 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: say and maybe they use the word gratuity and that 514 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: service shape a lot of menus will say a twenty 515 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: percent cre tuity will be included on all parties of 516 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: six or more. I guess just to solve any sort 517 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: of you know whatever, like this is going to be 518 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: a lot of work, so the tip's paid for. So 519 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: I guess the way that I'm interpreting this is that 520 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: the tip was already paid. It's just put on the bill. 521 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: And so if there's already twenty percent on the bill, 522 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: then you, in my opinion, you're going to have to 523 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: do something really wild for me to go over the 524 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: top of that. That's already a good tip. Now, if 525 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: you were really great, then I might tip more. But 526 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: if a twenty percent tip is included, and I was 527 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: going to tip twenty percent anyway, why am I tipping more? Well, 528 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: she's saying it was bad service, so on top of that, 529 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: she got a twenty percent tip for not great service anyway, supposedly, I. 530 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 5: Don't think that was a tip. We just I got 531 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 5: a text from our residence server, Bella, and she said 532 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 5: the service charge is for the restaurant. 533 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: But I might be okay, wow, wait a minute, so 534 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: then why okay? Well that I'm wondering if maybe they 535 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: got I don't know because. 536 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: Because every patron gets the service charge. 537 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 10: You know, like, no matter what it is, it's a 538 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 10: service charge that goes to the restaurant because whatever to 539 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 10: pay this and that it's not the gratuity part that 540 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 10: goes to the employee pay for everything else. 541 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 12: Right, they say that the service charge goes to you know, 542 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 12: the waiter gets a portion, the dishwasher gets a portion. 543 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So. 544 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 12: He Eric did not tip at all on top of 545 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 12: that because he felt like he did not get good service, 546 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 12: and his father in law decided to leave a tip anyway, 547 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 12: And then not only that, he sent a text to 548 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 12: his wife and was like, upset that your husband didn't 549 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 12: leave a tip. Okay, And I know you know we 550 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 12: all tip, we all try to go above and beyond, 551 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 12: but in this case, I'm not giving her a tip either. 552 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 12: We cannot keep a rewarding bad behavior. I'm sorry you 553 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 12: were a horrible waitious today. 554 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: You did not do your best job. 555 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 12: So why would I on top of a service charge 556 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 12: which maybe a little portion may go to you, But 557 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 12: why would I tip above that when you have given 558 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 12: me horrible service? I understand the father in law may 559 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 12: have felt differently, and he's entitled to do whatever he wants. 560 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 12: So I would not have been upset if my father 561 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 12: in law took out money out here. 562 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: That's on you. 563 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 12: If that's what you want to do, do your thing. 564 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 12: I'm not leaving a penny. But then to text my wife, 565 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 12: you know, to text my wife that you're so disappointed. Boy, 566 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 12: I mean, God, have some have some cahunas. 567 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 9: Like that to me? 568 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 12: We were just together at the dinner table. If you 569 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 12: felt disappointed to tell me, don't text my wife sorry 570 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 12: because he brought the wife into it. Yeah, I'm with you, Eric, 571 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 12: I don't think he's wrong. 572 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 10: I would be upset from the start after I announced 573 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 10: the table, like I ain't tipping nothing. 574 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: This was horrible. We didn't have a good time. It 575 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: was bad. I would be upset when the father. 576 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 10: In law was like, I'm gonna leave something behind Anyone'm 577 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 10: like I told you we ain't tipping, Like we gotta 578 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 10: be on the same pain. 579 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: Forget the text message from the start. If you take 580 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: out money when I already said we ain't tipping, we 581 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: got a problem. 582 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: What issould we have here is that the Texas seems 583 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: to be like some people believe that in a party 584 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: in a certain sized party that a service charge represents 585 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: that policy, the policy that if it's sicks more than 586 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: the tip is included. Other people say that it's not. 587 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: So my first thing would have been, Okay, hey, what 588 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: is this for? You know, I would have asked the question, 589 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: like is this a tip? Because if there's a twenty 590 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: percent tip built in and the service sucked, then you're 591 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: lucky you got your twenty percent. I'm not giving you 592 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: anything more, right, But what I would say about bad 593 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: service is I would probably steal tip, but then I 594 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: just wouldn't go back. Oh you know what I mean, 595 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: Because it's like, by not tipping, you're also screwing the 596 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: bar backs and the bartenders and the cook I don't 597 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: know if the cooks get tipped out, but you know, 598 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: the bus boys and girls or whatever else. 599 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: So like you're not only. 600 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: Screwing the principle that you know, just the person who 601 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: waited on you, but everybody else too, who maybe didn't 602 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: have anything to do with it. 603 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: So I guess, but I'm not. 604 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: I'm not of the mindset that we you know, like 605 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: we've talked about on tipping before, like oh, everyone should 606 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: tip thirty percent because people don't make enough. It's like, well, 607 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 2: that's I'm not disagreeing that people don't make enough. They 608 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: make way more than they did back when we were 609 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: waiting tables though, or you know, or era. But if 610 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: you do a bad job, why do I still have 611 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: to tip you like you did a good job. That's 612 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: the part I don't understand because a tip. I understand 613 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: some people believe that a tip is to compensate for 614 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: a poor wage. But my understanding about a tip is 615 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: that it was always the extra. It was were you 616 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: exceptional at your job? And if you were, you're going 617 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: to make a lot more money than if you weren't. 618 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: That I thought that was the point, because if every 619 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: server knows they're going to get twenty percent, even if 620 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: they're not not in a mood, well, then why would 621 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: you bother to apply yourself right exactly? 622 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 12: And that's how I feel tipping works. And you know, 623 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 12: sometimes I've gotten less than great service, and I'll still 624 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 12: do maybe a twenty percent tip, whether than the twenty 625 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 12: five percent or whatever. 626 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 4: You would give. 627 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 12: But in this case, you didn't even bring my wife's 628 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 12: food to the table. I had to get up and 629 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 12: come find you. You weren't pleasant from the start, there's 630 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 12: no reason that I would tip above and so as 631 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 12: the father in law, like as Rufio said one in 632 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 12: one sound, I said, we're not sicking. I'm paying for 633 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 12: this meal. Don't leave, except even if you decide. So 634 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 12: you took it a step further and text my wife 635 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 12: about me when we were just together. 636 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: You could have text me. 637 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 12: I just think Eric is right, and I just I 638 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 12: feel like the father in law is so wrong. 639 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: My brother in law was in the service industry. He overtips. 640 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: He's a big he's like a fifty percent tit like 641 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: he thinks it's because he was in the industry, that 642 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: it's karma or whatever, but like it's it's a it's 643 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: a significant like thirty five forty percent. 644 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Minimum, like he tips a lot and whatever. 645 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: And I've he's already gotten the wrath of this story, 646 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: like ten years ago or however long ago it was, 647 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: so it's not a big deal now. But I can 648 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: tell the story. But I think I paid for something. 649 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: I paid for a lunch and I tipped twenty four 650 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: percent and he looked at it on the way out. 651 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: I barely knew the guy at this point. And then 652 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: put forty dollars on top of that yo, and we 653 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: left it has rue and my mom was like looked 654 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: at me and looked at him, and then later was like, 655 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: that was super rude, dude, Like you gave an appropriate tip, 656 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: Like it made it look like you weren't generous enough 657 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: because he wants to tip right fifty sixty percent, which 658 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: is his business, right, Like that's for him to do. 659 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: But at the time, I was like kind of bent 660 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: about it because I'm like, hey, what are you saying 661 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: about me? Like I I tipped, well, it was a 662 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: good tip, you know what I mean, Like it wasn't 663 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: but I didn't tip double the price, you know what 664 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean? So I think, you know, I think when 665 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: it comes to like, you make it. If you're paying 666 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: the bill and you make the decision, then everybody at 667 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: the table kind of has to go with it. 668 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 6: Right. 669 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 12: Well, in one sense you want to say that, but 670 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 12: as the waitress, if I did a great job and 671 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 12: you feel compelled to bless me with a little extra, 672 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 12: I think it's okay. 673 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: But in Colin's standpoint, he should have said that. 674 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 12: To you, like, hey, bro, I see you got left 675 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 12: a great tip, but I just want to help them 676 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 12: a little bit more because I used to be a 677 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 12: server and then you explained it. But to not say 678 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 12: anything to you and just put extra money down as 679 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 12: if you're a broke boy. 680 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: That's very rude. 681 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it does. 682 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: To my point, it does kind of make it seem 683 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: like you are like you've made a decision, this was 684 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: a bad experience, and here's and I'm paying the bills, 685 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: so I get to make the choice about the tip. 686 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: Right. 687 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: If you want to make the choice about the tip, 688 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: then you pick up the whole tap yes, and then 689 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: you can tip whatever you want and we don't have 690 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: a problem. Hey Kim, good morning, Hi, good morning, Hey Kim, 691 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Kiki's court. So bad service and Dode didn't tip, 692 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: and then father in law decides, no, I'm going to 693 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: go over the top and tip more, and now there's 694 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: an inter family fight. 695 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: What do you do? 696 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, I would I would not tip. 697 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: That's the whole purpose of and I've been in the 698 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 6: industry many, many years. The whole purpose we are working 699 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 6: for is for the tips. If we're not doing our job, 700 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 6: I mean, what are we being paid for. I mean, 701 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 6: I don't understand why the father in law felt that 702 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 6: he had to tip for a really bad service, especially 703 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 6: when his own daughter didn't even get her food. 704 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Kim, people get so mad at us 705 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: when we talk about tipping on here because and I realize, 706 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: we're talking about what people deserve and don't deserve, and 707 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: that's a strange conversation to have. But what I it 708 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: blows me away is that when people get upset about 709 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: us saying that tips are merit based, I think we 710 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: all agree on that in this room. I think what 711 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: is confusing to me is that if you're a great server, 712 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: then you're going to be incentivized by that philosophy. Just 713 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 2: do a great job, right And by the way, there 714 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: are always going to be people who are a holes 715 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: and you're going to do a great job and they're 716 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: not going to acknowledge it. That happens in every industry 717 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: all the time. That's nothing new. But in general, I 718 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: would think if you're somebody who takes pride in what 719 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: you're doing, that you would agree with the fact that 720 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: tips should be merit based, because if you do a 721 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: really great job, then I'm going to pay you more. 722 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: If you don't do a very good job, I'm going 723 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: to give you less but not below the standard. I 724 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: just think it's like, how could anybody argue against that, really, 725 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: because I guess there's enough people out there who have 726 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: been burnt by the person who didn't tip for good service, right, 727 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: I guess. 728 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 6: But anyway, Kim, then, also on those checks, you know, 729 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 6: when there's a service charge for a large party, the 730 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: service charge is most likely for the backstaff because a 731 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 6: lot of times there will be a tip share for 732 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 6: the backstaff. And that's because of the big parties. There's 733 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 6: a lot to do and to coordinate it all, so 734 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: everything comes out at once. The gratuity is when it's 735 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 6: added on automatically. That is the server's tip, and you 736 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 6: can always add more if they went above and beyond 737 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: the twenty percent or eighteen percent that the restaurant automatically added. 738 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you, Kim, thanks for listening. Have 739 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: a great day. 740 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 9: I have a great day. 741 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 6: Guys. 742 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: Love the show. 743 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. I love your show too. 744 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: I think I would. I would probably I would ask. 745 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: First of all, I would be asking questions, right, I 746 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: would say, look at the bill and say, okay, what 747 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: I've done this before, Like you know, a room service, 748 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: some hotels, you get room service and clude the gratuity. 749 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: Some don't, but there'll still be a tip line there. 750 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: So I'll be like, hey, dude, are you getting this number? 751 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like it says service charge? 752 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: Is that for you? And if he's like, I get 753 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: all that okay, well then that's I'm basically what I'm 754 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: doing off of that. If he says no, the hotel 755 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: gets that, then I then I'm gonna tip him. But 756 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask these questions ahead of time. But the real, 757 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: the real conversation here is not really about that. It's 758 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 2: about whether the father in law should be usurping his 759 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: son in law's decision based on bad service. And I 760 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 2: come back to the payer of the bill gets to 761 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: decide on the tip. That's right, right otherwise like you're 762 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: you're free loading, like you're not even paying, So what 763 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: do you care? 764 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: Right? You did? 765 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: You thought you did your big one? Would you twenty 766 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: dollar tip? 767 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: But I paid? 768 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 9: You know? 769 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: But I paid one hundred summi dollars for the. 770 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 12: Thing, right, and I didn't even get my lemonade? Rightmonade, 771 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 12: no food. 772 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll just go home make my own limited When a picture. 773 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 12: Would it's you got a table full of kid it's 774 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 12: like self check out. You want me to go and 775 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 12: ring up the toilet paper. You want me to put 776 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 12: it in the bag, take a receipt. I work for 777 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 12: you at this point, right. 778 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 10: I've also seen that two when I'm not calling out, 779 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 10: like there are some servers when they know there's a 780 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 10: party of six or more, they know they're getting something 781 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 10: guaranteed already, so they they become less whatever lazier because 782 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 10: they know they're getting a tip no matter what they do. 783 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 7: Mm hmm. 784 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: See that's what I don't love that because again, but 785 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: the problem is there's two problems. One you've got the 786 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: people who take advantage, like Rufio's talking about, like, well 787 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a tip no matter 788 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: what I do, so I don't have to try that hard. 789 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: And then you've got the people that don't reward the 790 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: service that's exceptional. So the problem is you meet in 791 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: the middle with everyone's kind of disgruntle. Yes, you know 792 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: what I mean, Because it's like, again, if if I 793 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: come in here and I do a better job, if 794 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 2: I tried my hardest every single day, and the company 795 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: is like great, here's a little extra because you did 796 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: such a good job today. Well, then I'm then that 797 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: incentivizes me, you know, I mean, like it's hard to 798 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: it's hard to sort of compare the two things. But 799 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why anybody would would disagree with that, 800 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I work harder, I 801 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: make more money. That's great, but everyone has to agree 802 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: to follow that, And I think, you know, a lot 803 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: of people are cheap and rude. Hey Natalie, Hey, Hi, 804 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: what did you want to say on Kikey's cord? 805 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 9: Oh? 806 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: Well, I agree with Eric. 807 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 13: I agree with Kei Ki. Everything opposite of what the 808 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 13: father in law did. And there's a lot to unpack here. 809 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 13: So I'm gona try to just wrap it up real quick, Ruefield, 810 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 13: you said everything I was just getting. 811 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 5: Ready to say. 812 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 13: So, like when the bertility is added onto the bill, 813 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 13: then it doesn't and it doesn't inspire the waitress the 814 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 13: waiter to do their job that much more because they're 815 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 13: guaranteed that money. 816 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 6: So why should I work hard for it? 817 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 13: I'm gonna get it. 818 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 6: That's one number two. 819 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 13: As far as the father in law me personally, I'm petty. 820 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 13: I would have went back to the table snatched kip 821 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 13: off the table because there's no reason until you will 822 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 13: leave that money on that table. That's not your responsibility. 823 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 13: And I get the old school our you know, the 824 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 13: culture back then is different. You know they want to 825 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 13: do those things. 826 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 5: That's what they were trying to do. 827 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 13: But I got to look at the service. If I 828 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 13: didn't get a meal, or if I have to do 829 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 13: my own whatever at the table and I'm doing. 830 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 6: Your job, you don't get that money. 831 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 13: As a matter of fact, I should bill you and 832 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 13: take some money off of my my food bill because 833 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 13: I feel like I'm doing all of the work. It's 834 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 13: not even just doing the work, but the attitude makes 835 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 13: a difference to now you could be. 836 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 6: Doing all of the work. You could have brought all. 837 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: The meals down and everything. 838 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 13: But if your attitude makes me uncomfortable in a place 839 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 13: where I should be comfortable, that automatically cancels everything. 840 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: And I'm complaining it is take that. 841 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Thank you have a good because I'm asking for more biscuits. 842 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well at limited, if I 843 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: asked for more, please bring me some more. Julisa is it? 844 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: Lisa High? 845 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 6: Hi? 846 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 4: How you doing? 847 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Kiki's court. What say you? 848 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 12: I say, was the father in law even sitting at 849 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 12: the table with them, because if my daughter didn't get 850 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 12: a meal, we would have some problems. 851 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: Like she should reply back to. 852 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 8: Herself saying, excuse me, were you not there when I 853 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 8: didn't get my food while you were eating your salad 854 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 8: and your steak and I'm taking the baby's fries because 855 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 8: I'm still. 856 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 13: Not would have got a tip? 857 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 9: And I just heard Natalie talk about how she should 858 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 9: have tooken something I got. 859 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 4: How I feel about those self checkouts? 860 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 13: You guys got all these self checkouts. 861 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 9: I'm gonna get me a discount. 862 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm a discount of something. 863 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 13: I'm bagging my own bag. 864 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got to check my own self out. 865 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 2: I should get an employee discount. That is brilliant. I've 866 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: never heard that said that way. 867 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: I like it. 868 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 9: I mean, that's my biggest concern here. 869 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,479 Speaker 6: Rather dad gave a tip. 870 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 9: But whose side are you on? 871 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 4: The waitresses? 872 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 6: Are your daughters? 873 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like she was even with the rest 874 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: of the table. 875 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: I kind of wonder how much this father in law 876 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: respects the son in law at all, because that's kind 877 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: of an emasculating move too. 878 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: You know. 879 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 8: It's kind of like, oh, really, take his money and 880 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 8: let him pay for dinner. 881 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but oh I don't like your tip. It's like, okay, 882 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: well here's the bill, then you handle it. Oh no, no, no, 883 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: you didn't offer to do that. You didn't offer to 884 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: do that. Thank you, Alisa, have a good day too. 885 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 2: She wants an employee discount. 886 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 4: I like the way she thinks. 887 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: I here for that discount. It is Shelley the Entertainment 888 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: Report in two minutes,