1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: The Fields Onto Group proudly presents Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, John Oser and NFL Network analyst and 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jack Rocks. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: We're not done. We're going to continue to work to 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: build this team to make his as potent as we 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: can going into the regular season. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast as the final edition 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: before training camp. At his Wednesday June fourteenth, JAFT, Shadrick, 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, John Oser, the off season program has come 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: to an end after mandatory mini camp, well mandatory for some. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Not for Bucky event apparently not. Yeah, I mean he 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: wrote a check with his mouth that he didn't cash. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: Talked about how important. 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought of I thought it was gonna be canceled. 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 5: I was. 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 4: I was told that it was. These portions in the 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: workouts were going to be canceled. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: And so for veteran, well, I guess you're a veteran. 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: You are a VET. 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Aside you're a VET. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: So I didn't maybe playing. I was ready, I had 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: all my gear lined up. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: I was ready. 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: To go and said, I didn't tell you up, but 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be canceled. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Think again, right, the Jaguars were out there. Some of 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: the Jaguars were out there. There were a few vets 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: involved the last three days, Josh Allen most notably, who 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: was not here during the voluntary portion of the offseason. 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson said that those players who had been around 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: for the offseason program were excused from this mandatory mini camp. Well, 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: Josh was not around. There were a few other vets in. 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, second year player Chad Mumma was around. Second 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: year player Calvin Ridley was here. He's coming off an 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: injury of a little slight injury in the in the 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: off season, nothing to be concerned about. But any guys 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: that are nicked up and needed to be around, they 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: kept them around and did some things with them there. 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: And of course all the rookies were involved here. Let's 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: start with Josh though don first chance to see him 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: in this offseason in person, you would expect him to 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: be in fantastic shape. He's not gonna sit on the 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: couch and eat Cheetos. That's not his m O. But 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: and it's obviously an important season for him, and he 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: was back in the fold, back in the building and 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: excited to be here. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: It felt like, yeah, it's all relative. Josh in awful 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: shape is a specimen, so it's not like you're gonna 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: look at him and say, boy, he looks bad. But 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: he looked good. He looked in shape. I thought, maybe 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: the most if there's any significance at all this morning, 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: meaning Wednesday morning, when Doug was speaking to the media, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: he was asked about Josh, and I forget exactly what 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: he said, but you could tell that he was impressed 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: with the work he had done, that he looked ready. 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure Doug would have rather had him here. 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: But when Josh misses off season work, it's not a 60 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: message to the team. He's not trying to prove any point. 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: He is. You know, he's one of these guys who's 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: honestly looking for a way to maximize himself. You know it. 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: It's done for the right reasons, if you follow me. 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: So I thought it looked good. It's a career year 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: and we'll see where it goes in training camp. 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm glad that he showed up. And for coaches, 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: what happens. I mean, if you ask any coach, they 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: want everyone there one hundred percent attendance. But what the 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: mentory mini camp is is really a check in is 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: if one of your veterans comes in and they're out 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: of shape, the conditioning isn't right, it kind of sends 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: up a. 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: Bit of a flag. 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: Hey, we need to make sure we get on this 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: guy to give him because you have six weeks before 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: training camp. 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: Hey man, you need to get on over the next 78 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: six weeks to make sure that you're ready to go. 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: And so Josh Allen comes in, he looks in shape, 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: he understands what's going on. He has to kind of 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: have the refreshed when it comes to the playbook. But 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: if all signs a go and he gets it, you 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: don't worry about it. And so Doug has always been 84 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: kind of chill. He's always maintained at every turn he 85 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: is volunteer. 86 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: Those guys have the opportunity to do their own thing. 87 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: We like to have everybody here, but if they're not here, 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: it's one of those things and we can understand it. 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 5: And so I think he handled it the right way. 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: Josh is there, Josh's good, that's great. 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: There will be the storyline though when training camp comes. 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: You said it, John, it is a career or a 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: contract year for him. It's the final year of his 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: rookie contract, so you know that may or may not 95 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: be a storyline. I think it will be a storyline 96 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: once camp begins, But you know, I don't think there's 97 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: any push to go to the negotiating table from the 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: team perspective right now. And you know, he was great 99 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: down the stretch the last four or five games of 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: the season, but you know, putting that together over the 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: first half of this season could say a lot about 102 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: how this could go. 103 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm saying this for a while with 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: Josh every question I get. If the team called him 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: and gave him an absolute mega deal, I think he 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: would take and be happy with it, you know. But 107 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: I also think there's part of Josh that may not 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: want to do a deal yet because from talking to 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: Josh over the years you talk as much as I 110 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: do JP, I think he believes that there is more 111 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: in him than he has shown. There are more statistics 112 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: in him than he has shown. So I think he 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: would and he sort of feels somewhere inside him and 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: he'd be cheating himself if if he didn't go after 115 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: the contract that he can make a lot of money 116 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 3: this year. I think he wants to be in Jacksonville. 117 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: I think it'd be very hard for the team. And 118 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: this is interesting and I'll throw it over to the 119 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: salary cap expert here in a minute, but it'll be 120 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: interesting if he has a huge year. A lot of 121 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: people have written him off and assuming they won't be 122 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: back if he has a huge year. He's a guy 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: who's who's always healthy, except when he was had a 124 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: major injury. Always there. You trust this guy. If he 125 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: has a huge year, all of a sudden he ascends 126 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: to an elite edge guy, it's hard to let that go, 127 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: no matter how much it costs. You may have to 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: rearrange cap and keep him because he's all ready no 129 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: matter what he does, he's going to be a huge 130 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: free agent if he hasn't signed here. Absolutely, if he 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: has a big year, he's one of the bigger freedoms 132 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 3: of hitting a long time. I think they got to 133 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: find a way to keep him if he has a 134 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: monster year. 135 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, ideally, you want to keep all 136 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: your top draft picks, and I don't think there's a 137 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: thing where the Jaguars don't want to keep Josh and 138 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: they don't want to pay him, but certainly you want 139 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: a production equal to equal the compensation. And so if 140 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: he has a big year, then yes you have to 141 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: dig a little deeper and may write a bigger check. 142 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: But I think you will kindly do that if he 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: plays well and at least to more playoff success for 144 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: the team, And so everyone understands what it is. Josh 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: understands what it is he's playing and what his essence is. 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: Approve it year. 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: I mean, if he proves that he can be a 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: dominant player, then yeah, you give him the cash. It 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: may cost you a little more, but I don't fall 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 4: the Jaguars saying, hey man, let's wait and see what 151 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: this looks like before we get a deal. 152 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: None Bucky Josh is often criticized in this market because 153 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: he hasn't been a monster SAT guy. Only one double 154 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: digit I maintain, and I'm I'm sure I said on 155 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: this show in JP News where I'm going with it, 156 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: out of all the Jaguars defensive players last year, he 157 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: was the guy that I least wanted to lose, you know, 158 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: And I don't care about the numbers whatever else. Maybe 159 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: other people had bigger PFF grades, but it's hard to 160 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: replace that if he's not on the field, and that's 161 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: what they'll be dealing with next Offseason's time to make 162 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: a decision too. Maybe the numbers aren't there, you let 163 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: this guy go, You're trying to find another one the 164 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: next day. 165 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, So there are a few different things when you 166 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: think about Josh Allen as it relates to the Jaguars. One, 167 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: he was a top pick. Two, he's has exceptional football care. 168 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: He is everything that you want in terms of a 169 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: teammate as a leader. He does all the right things, 170 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: says all the right things, and he's really tried doing 171 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: I always say a series of trying times in terms 172 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: of multiple coaching changes in those things. You would love 173 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: the production to be to the point where's look, it's 174 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: clear and a parent that he needs to be paid 175 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: to be the guy, but dependent upon how he plays 176 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: this year, maybe there's a middle ground. Maybe there's that 177 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: that that ground that you can find and say, hey, 178 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: we may overpay a little bit for your own guy 179 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 4: because he is such a good guy in the locker 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: room and those things. And so as the Jaguars are 181 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: continue to put the keep this nucleus together of what 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: appears to be a really good culture team. Josh Allen 183 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: certainly should be in play. It's about finding that that 184 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: that the happy meeting where both sides are satisfied when 185 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: it comes to the compensation and the production that they're 186 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: getting from the player. 187 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeh JP. It's as tough as spot as I can remember, 188 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: because I understand people who say, you can't resign him 189 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: if his production is the. 190 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: Same this year, paying him the massive money, right, And I. 191 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: Understand that that may be the decision of the franchise 192 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,359 Speaker 3: and that means because. 193 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: He's got a lot of bills due beyond him. 194 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 3: And I think it's a tough spot because I think 195 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: they probably feel the same way. Hey, we love this guy. 196 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: The problem is if he has an eight sack year 197 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: this year. I would be surprised if they can find 198 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: a middle ground because I'm sure who Josh's representation is 199 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: going to be saying, well, that's great that the team 200 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: would like him back, get a good deal, but somebody's 201 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: gonna pay this guy. So that's what the nf as, 202 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: what free agency is. 203 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Other teams will have room for that yeah, and we'll. 204 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: Say, well, he only got eight there, he's gonna get 205 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: more than that here free That happens in free see 206 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: all the time. So it's a tough spot. I keeping 207 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: my fingers crossed that he has a huge year and 208 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: the team feels the same way because, as you know, JP, 209 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: if you're around Josh, you love the guy. He's a 210 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: wonderful guy to be around. And I hope he's here. 211 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. 212 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 5: No, here's here's the thing about Josh Allen. 213 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: This year, if the offense performs up to expectation, he 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: should have more opportunities to sack the quarterback than he's 215 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: ever had. You know, it's hard to really get after 216 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: the quarterback when your team is down and you're facing 217 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: teams that don't have to necessarily put it up. But 218 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 4: this year, if the offense puts up the kind of 219 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: points that we expect, the opponents will be chasing points 220 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 4: and so then it's on Josh to prove that he 221 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: can be a finisher and a closer, because what you're 222 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: paying for is you're paying for his ability to close 223 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: games out in the fourth quarter, games on the line, 224 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: the offense has done his job defense has to get 225 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: off the field. That's when Josh Allen has to deliver 226 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 4: some splash plays. And so as much as we talk 227 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: about wanted to have him, he has to do his part. 228 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: He has to make a handful of critical plays. So 229 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: everyone is convinced that he can't be the closer that 230 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: you need. 231 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: Let's Shuddle Up podcast, JP Shatterick, John Oser, Bucky Brooks. 232 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Let's switch to the offensive line now, and of course 233 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 2: Cam Robinson was around in this offseason program. Most of 234 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: the time. There's still that lingering suspension out there. No 235 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: word or on a timetable for the announcement of that 236 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: or how long it will be. The team is not 237 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: involved in that process. They just kind of have to 238 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: wait and see. I believe it'll probably be on the 239 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Friday before the fourth of July week and about four 240 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: o'clock is when the announcement. Usually those kind of things 241 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: come down at times like that. That's my personal belief. 242 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But you've got a plan for 243 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: certain things in the offensive line, and that's what this 244 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: last two three four weeks have been about, working different 245 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: guys in different spots. We know Anton Harrison has been 246 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: over at the right side. That's likely the spot Walker 247 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: little played left when Cam was hurt last year down 248 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: the stretch played well there. But Press Taylor said the 249 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: other day that Walker has been working inside a little 250 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: bit as well at guard. Maybe a scenarios in play 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: that whenever Cam Robinson is back in the fold, he 252 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: could jump in, Walker could move, vice versa. A lot 253 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: of money going to Cam Robinson. So there's all these 254 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: scenarios on the offensive line, Bucky, but they're deep, let's 255 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: put it that way. That's a good problem. At least 256 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: they have the personnel to be able to maneuver or 257 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: ideally maneuver some things around. We'll find out a whole 258 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: lot more in training camp when pads go on, that's 259 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: when you really know about the whole lot. 260 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when you know about them. 261 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: But this is a great time to experiment, to give 262 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: guys reps at multiple positions, to kind of begin to 263 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: kind of set what we call the emergency board in 264 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: your mind. If this happens, who would go whatever? If 265 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: this happens, and this happens, then who's the next guy 266 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: to going to the game. You want to work through 267 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: all those scenarios as much as you can in the preseason, 268 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 4: so if it does happen in the regular season, you 269 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: feel very, very comfortable about the lineups. You give those 270 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: guys enough reps where they feel comfortable because the offensive line, 271 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: unlike the rest of the team, they have to operate 272 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: five as one, and so you want to make sure 273 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: you get all those guys enough said the spots that 274 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: they could potentially plan. So everyone has a good feel 275 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: for what these different lineup changes look like. 276 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 5: But I'm really encouraged walk a little. 277 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: Being a guy that can bounce around and play multiple spots, 278 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: he should definitely help. And when you think about the 279 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: depth that the Jaguars certainly have, now you should feel 280 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: good about the offensive line. 281 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 282 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: I think they feel like it's a strength. I played 283 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: like a strength. And it's interesting when we talked to 284 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: the assistant coaches last week, last Wednesday or Thursday, thing 285 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: it was in talking to Phil Rousher, the offensive line coach. 286 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: I think he feels like a lot of people, They've 287 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: got a bunch of good guys that they trust, and 288 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: now they just got to figure out sort of where 289 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: they're going to play him and win. I would be 290 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: surprised if the scenario is not to start the season, 291 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: Walker Little left Ben Bartch assuming health and left guard, 292 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: and then the other side sort of said Anton Harrison, 293 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: He's going to start a right tackle and then you've 294 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: got and Fortner and then when Cam comes back, I 295 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: think Walker Little and move inside, and then Cam will 296 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: play out his his his deal next year. And I 297 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 3: think everybody's assuming Kim will be back. I don't know 298 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 3: if that's true or not, but if you assume that 299 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: that's true, then Walker probably kicks back out to left 300 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: tackle knowing he can play it, and they figure out 301 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: left guard. Maybe it's Bartch again, you know. So that 302 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: feels like the default mode, if you will. And my 303 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: sense is something dramatic would have to happen to knock 304 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: them off that like it. If Walker Little's the best 305 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: left tackle in football for the first four games, then 306 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: maybe they have a little more trouble making that happen. 307 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: But that feels like the logical thing to do, if 308 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: only because Cam's been a left tackle in the NFL 309 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: for seven years now seventy eight, that's right, So I 310 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: think that would be the thing that they. 311 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Would do, and he's getting paid to play that position. 312 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: Right, And that theory as soon as games start, who 313 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: knows what happens. 314 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean if they're let's just say it's 315 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: six games, it Cam's out. 316 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 317 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: If they're five and one and rolling teams on offensive line, 318 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: don't mess with it, right, you got to roll the 319 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: ball out again in week seven, right, I mean that's 320 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: how it would work, right, Yeah. 321 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, so this is a great opportunity. 322 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: You know, you talk about Walker a little having a 323 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: great opportunity to show people what he could be. It's 324 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: a little peak at what it could be this year, 325 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: but also what the future could hold. Because if you 326 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: have Walker Little, and let's just fast forward and say 327 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: you feel like Walker Little is comparable to what you're 328 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: getting from Cam Robinson, well, then you can free yourself 329 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: up to allocate those funds elsewhere when you have other 330 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: guys to come up from free agency. 331 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: We have to know at the end of this year, Trevor. 332 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: Lawrence will be eligible to begin talking about a blockbuster 333 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: deal that it should pay him over fifty million annually. 334 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 5: And so there are a lot of things that you 335 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 5: have to get in place. 336 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: And so for a handful of these guys, they're not 337 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: only playing for their jobs, but they're playing for the 338 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: opportunity to be around for the long term because the 339 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: money changes and the pieces of the puzzle. 340 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 5: Will have to change around it. 341 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: When you think about the salary cap and the pie 342 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: and having to pay a quarterback a big money deal. 343 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: This is the Huddle Up Podcast. Season tickets available right now. 344 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: Visit Jaguars dot com slash tickets or call nine O 345 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: four six three three two thousand. Of course, the season 346 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: right around a corner. What a home schedule ahead or 347 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: look forward to seeing you at the bank in twenty 348 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: twenty three when we return. Community huddles are underway and 349 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center close, so close to being open 350 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: for business. This is the Huddle Up Podcast. Welcome back 351 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: to the Huddle Up Podcast. JP Shadwick, John Osier, Baki 352 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Brooks for the final time in the offseason. Program will 353 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: take about a five week hiatus and then they be 354 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: back at it. So the first week of training camp 355 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: that's late July, the team reports and then they'll report 356 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: in a new building the middle of Electric Center, due 357 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: to open officially July. First, the Jags get the keys 358 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: the final day of June, that's what was today the fourteenth, 359 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: So two weeks out yeah, and then they'll finish it 360 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: up and then they'll start moving. Doug Peterson said on Wednesday, Hey, yeah, 361 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: we fill our boxes of our offices on our own 362 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: and then the subte of the moving company moves everybody 363 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: over there. But that process has begun, so it will 364 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: be a lot of behind the scenes folks doing a 365 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: lot of work the first couple weeks of June or July, 366 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: excuse me, to get the team moved in, and then 367 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks off for those guys, and then 368 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: training camp starts so they'll be ready to roll in 369 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: the new building and that means training camps over there too, 370 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: So looking forward to a new space. Final practice was 371 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: today on the game field, so Nick Fetawa, who does 372 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: the field out here. Year, they've had to put in 373 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: so many new surfaces, keep it up to date for 374 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: practice during the week, the game College and Pro on 375 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday. They replaced that surface so many times 376 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: and a lot of work went into that to that 377 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: last year while the team had to practice on the 378 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: game field, that's no more. The practice fields will be 379 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: open finally. 380 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a crazy thing. I think everybody here can 381 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: sort of relate to it at JP. You've been walking 382 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: the rubber hallway out here talking to coaching in their 383 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: offices for you know, ten years. I can remember, you know, 384 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: the same offices essentially for football. We're here in ninety 385 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: five when I first covered the team, when Bucky played 386 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: in ninety six ninety seven. So it will be a 387 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: strange thing to see the Jaguars operating out of a 388 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: different place. People who've been around it forever, it's it 389 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 3: makes you feel a little old, that kind of thing's 390 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 3: going away. But I don't think there's any question. Anybody 391 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: who's been around the facility lately will tell you it's time. 392 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: You've got to get them in a new facility. It's 393 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: time to turn the page on the past, appreciate the 394 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: past what it was. We'll miss the rubber hallway, but 395 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: it's time. It's time to go state of the art, 396 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: and this thing is going to be just that buggy. 397 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks fantastic. I mean it looks fantastic. All 398 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: the renderings and just a little bit that I've been 399 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 4: able to see from Afar, it looks terrific. And I 400 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: can tell you from a coaches and player standpoint, there's 401 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: nothing like have an opportunity to play and a new 402 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: facility to run around grass is perfect. You have all 403 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: the things and then the amenities that go along with it. 404 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: You got the grand stand where they can have fans 405 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: and spectators watch practice, and so that is terrific. And 406 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: then just think about all the things that will be 407 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: in the new offices, the innovations and technology that you 408 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: can tap into. So let's say it's been long overdue, 409 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's great to kind of see this come 410 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: to fruition. 411 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 5: It's only a couple weeks away from everyone able to 412 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: get into it. 413 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: Remember the scene in Bull Durham JP when they were 414 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: talking about the show. Oh yeah, I mean and not 415 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: to be to decide about it. But this facility is 416 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: old and it doesn't feel like a lot of facilities 417 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: in the NFL anymore. And when you're in the NFL, 418 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: you're at the top of your profession. You're in the 419 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: highest profile sports league in America. It's supposed to feel 420 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: like that, and the new training facility will feel like that. 421 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: And that for all the people who sort of anti 422 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: I don't understand why you have to do it, that's 423 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: just sort of what you got to do to be 424 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: in this business these days, and they will be back 425 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: on the cutting edge. When this thing was first built, 426 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: this was cutting edge, sure it was. But you know what, 427 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: in ninety five I was cutting edge too. 428 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 429 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: You probably used AOL dial up there too, so that 430 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: was also cutting edge. 431 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: So it's a new time and it's. 432 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: Time compu sir, whatever you use. 433 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: I had a CompuServe account paid monthly. 434 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you had the little CD you had to 435 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: put in. 436 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 5: The wow wow, just taking it all the way back. Yeah. 437 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, now that's the first step though, in the idea 438 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: of the stadium of the future, the first step was 439 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center to get the football team out 440 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: of the current facility. The next step is the front 441 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: office and then you can begin the refurbishment of the stadium. 442 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: And that process has continued. Now the renderings are out 443 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: the idea is out there, the design initially is out 444 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: there from the Jaguars, and now it's off to the 445 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: public feedback portion of it. The community huddles are underway. 446 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: There've been a couple as of the taping of this podcast, 447 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: there are fourteen total. Two in the books already. Mark 448 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: Lamping gives detail of what their thoughts of the stadium 449 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: of the future should be and why and I tell 450 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: you to the one yesterday and Mandarin. It was overflowing 451 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: with people at the Ramata down there on Hartley Road. 452 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: I believe about one hundred and fifty people by my estimation, 453 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: standing room only an hour and a half. A lot 454 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: of questions from people at the end. Mark's lamping is 455 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: open to any of those questions, answered them all with grace, 456 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: even the negative ideas that might have come along. And 457 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: that's what these are designed for, for feedback both ways, 458 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: so the team can hear, you know, what they need 459 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: to maybe adjust or an approach for the future. 460 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for people who may have forgotten or never knew. 461 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: Mark knows that not everybody is going to be coming 462 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: to these things are waving the new stadium flag and saying, hey, 463 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: this is great. He's been down this road. 464 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: He is. 465 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: He was president of Saint Louis Baseball Cardinals when they 466 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: did did a new facility, and he essentially built MetLife 467 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: in New York by himself, but he had some help, 468 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: but he he was the guy. 469 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: He's the point guy. 470 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: He spearheaded that. So he knows that public opinion and 471 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: misinformation and questions and information is critical. So when you 472 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: asked me a question about it, he's not going to 473 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: be defensive. It's not going to be all hey, just 474 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: has to be this way. And whenever I listen to 475 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: Mark talk about this, I feel like I know a 476 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: little bit about these issues. All always come away incredibly enlightened. 477 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: So I think it's worth people's time to go. I 478 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: guess what I'm getting at, And if you have a 479 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: legitimate question, you're going to get a detailed answer. And 480 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: I know from experienced like people don't listen to detailed 481 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: answers in this day and age. Yeah, but he's going 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: to give you the answer, and you know you'll find 483 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: out what you want to find out if you go 484 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: to these things. 485 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is great. 486 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: I think is great for him to interrate, great for 487 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: the team to interact with the community and kind of 488 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: hear not only the positive but also to hear the 489 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: negatives in the support because as you're trying to get 490 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 4: all this done and you're trying to really tie the 491 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 4: team to the community, to the community, you want to 492 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: know what the community thinks. And so I applaud the 493 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: Jackson were putting themselves out there for having a series 494 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 4: of these town hall huddles where people are coming and 495 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: listing and everyone is getting excited about it. Look, man, 496 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: the renderings are fantastic, and so if that stadium was 497 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: the fruition looking like it does in those pitches, and 498 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see it. 499 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: The questions varied, at least yesterday anywhere from you know, 500 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: past projects around the league, how they compare, to you know, 501 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: what's going to happen to my property taxes? To about 502 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: a ten year old kid asking is Jackson Deville still 503 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: going to zipline into the stadium? That's a good question, 504 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: and Mark Lamping said, yes, yes you will, okay, so 505 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: they'll find a way. So you're getting questions from all 506 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: across the board. This is the fine. I don't heuddle 507 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: up podcasts for the next five weeks. We'll be back 508 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: the first week of training camp when the Jaguars hit 509 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: the field at the Miller Electric Center. So Bucky what 510 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: he got the next month and a half? What's up? 511 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 5: But you got a little vacation. You know, you got 512 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 5: a little vacation time. 513 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: So we'll we'll take them time off because you know, 514 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: once we get to training campus on and popping. So 515 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: I gotta figure out a few spots that I need 516 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: to visit see if I can relax and put my 517 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: feet up for a little bit. 518 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: You know now, Doug said today, Bucky, it's important to 519 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: maintain your physicality and to run. Will you be maintaining 520 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: your physicality. 521 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: We'll be maintaining my physicality and everything. I'll make sure 522 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: my conditioning is up to part like just like the players. 523 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get in shape for the season. I 524 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: want to be in world class shape when the season starts. 525 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: So yes, I'm a hold of Miami at the bargain 526 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: for that peach. 527 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: Anybody knows about world class shape. 528 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: Which, well, yeah, JP will also be maintaining. 529 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: Yes, it'll be a fun five weeks. John, enjoy those 530 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: five you as well. 531 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: Buck. We'll see us INVETI all remember with you, guys. 532 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: Thanks to Brent Reebert, Joe Fortunado. That's Bucky Brooks, Shohn Oz, 533 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening. Enjoy the summer. 534 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: It's the Huddle Up Podcast.