WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Titans Voice: Ossenfort Will Build Depth 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.160 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.840 and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:14.320 Rain presented by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.440 Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.840 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.640 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:37.360 State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:46.159 dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, flurring, 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.599 rage taking over. Here's Paul Calveci. I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.279 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.960 it doesn't get any better than that, boy, unleash the far. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.520 If you get it right, you can get back into 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.480 the postseason. Look at this past season, this time a 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.240 year ago, Ron Wolfley, there were ten teams in the 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.920 market for a new head coach. Five of those teams 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.319 got back into the playoffs. They got it right and 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.640 with a first year head coach boom, they got back 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.200 into the postseason. And that's where the Arizona Cardinals are 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.039 right now, what might be the most instrumental week of 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.880 the two twenty three season continues to unfold right under 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.039 our noses here today in real time. It has been fluid, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.520 no doubt. We have gotten several coaching decisions across the 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.000 NFL landscape, and we're here to break it all down 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.399 and what exactly it means for the Arizona Cardinals on 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.440 this addition to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.880 Ford and Gilbert we are Santan Ford, Wolf, I know 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.840 you've been on this all day, every day, so you 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.920 know what. It has been a fluid situation, has it not? Yeah, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.280 it has, Polly, There's no thought about it. And the 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.520 the dominoes are starting to fall right now, they really are. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.000 We know that the Arizona Cardinals have been meeting with 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.880 Sean Payton of course today with their interview. We know 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.799 that Dan Quinn has declared that he's not going anywhere. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:20.040 He's going to stay right there in Dallas. That's breaking news. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.919 And not only that, we know that Frank Reich is 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.120 going to be the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.840 Things are starting to move right now, Polly. This is 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.040 just me. I could be dead wrong on this and 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.960 I don't care if I am. But tomorrow, by tomorrow afternoon, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.040 I think we're going to find out a whole lot 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.640 more as to where the Arizona Cardinals are going and 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.760 who their head coach is going to be. It's interesting 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.080 we talked this time last week. When the music stops, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.160 it's like musical chairs. Everybody better find a seat, right yep. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.799 And so the music is stopped in a lot of ways. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.840 What exactly now? Damiko Ryans is still out there and 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.160 nobody can talk to him again until after this coming weekend. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.280 There's a report late today that Denver has him installed, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.000 is their number one choice, and you got to figure 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.799 he's the hometown favored in Houston where he played for 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.120 a decade, and who's a team captain, and the Texans 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.720 fan base wants themselves some Demiko Ryans. We don't know 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:16.040 about ownership, but that's an evolving situation as well. But 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.400 you mentioned Dan Quinn. He had a long interview with 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.359 the Cardinals yesterday. Today we get the news late today 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.760 that he is indeed staying as defensive coordinator of the 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.960 Dallas Cowboys and what he told Edward er and I 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.320 quote unfinished business here in Dallas. My complete focus is 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.600 helping the team play championship ball in twenty twenty three. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.440 So for the second straight year, Jerry Jones able to 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.600 keep Dan Quinn as his defensive coordinator and he declines 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.760 head coaching opportunities. So is there a leader in the 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.800 clubhouse for the Arizona Cardinals right now? Wolf, You've talked 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.920 about some of those guys who made decisions already just 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.800 looking at the scorecard. Here you got defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.720 You have Brian Flores, who has interviewed with the Cardinals 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.640 at their headquarters. You have Sean Payton as of today. Now, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.560 I cite those three first because they all have previous 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:09.000 head coach experience, right which in my mind is very important, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.280 especially after the last two head coaches were first time 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.600 NFL head coaches. How about in your mind? Yeah, No, 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.960 you're right about that, PAULI. It is it's got to 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.680 be a situation where you go the opposite direction a 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.640 lot of the time, and sometimes you take a coach 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.279 where you're focused more on one side of the ball, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.440 and you'll go the opposite direction with your next hire 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.920 on the opposite side of the ball, of course. And 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.159 that's the reason why I think that Vance Joseph and 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.440 Brian Flores, those two guys again, nobody, paul You know me. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.600 I don't break stories. This is not what I do, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.599 all right. I don't have sources. I'm just sitting here 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.560 looking at all the information the way that we all 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:52.160 are right now. I honestly like the defensive minded coach. Now, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.400 if you told me that Sean Payton was going to 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.640 be the next coach of the Arizona Cardinals, I would 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.599 be absolutely on board with that, be fine with that 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.479 right now. But you have to wonder what is going 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.920 on with Sean Payton. We know that the Arizona Cardinals 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:14.040 have been meeting with Sean Payton even today. But for me, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.440 I think a defensive minded coach actually has a better 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.839 chance of coaching this team going forward. And the reason 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.560 why I say that, Paulie, it's because of three primary situations. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.680 Number one, separation from Kyler Murray. In other words, listen, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.120 I'm the head coach of this team. We're gonna have 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.080 to hire a legitimate offensive coordinator. We're gonna have to 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.000 hire a good quarterback coach. Of course, to work with 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.200 Kyler Murray, but I need to be the head coach 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.960 of this team, and he needs to be the alpha 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.560 in that room. You've heard me talk about that many 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.080 many times, the alpha inside that locker room. And I 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.400 honestly think that that's one of the reasons why I 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.000 favor the defensive side of the ball, because he's going 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.599 to have that built in separation from Kyler Murray. It's 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:10.479 number one, number two defensive players like Isaiah Simmons, Zaven Collins, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.560 Marco Wilson. The number three pick potentially overall, could be 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.800 a defensive player. Will Anderson is a guy that's been 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.560 mocked out many times already to the Arizona Cardinals at 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.800 number three. I think a defensive minded coach would help 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:31.119 those guys develop their game. And then, thirdly and finally, Paul, 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:37.360 defensive coaches, their souls are just more physically inclined than 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:42.960 offensive coaches. And I want to see that hard nose, hardcore, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.120 physical football team, and I think a defensive minded head 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.680 coach has got a better chance of implementing that. For 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.800 example of Mike Vrabel, and I bring that up because 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.200 Mike Vrabel's head coach of the Tennessee Titans, and we're 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.719 going to talk to their play by play man, longtime 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.480 voice of the Titans, Mike Keith. Momentarily this addition to 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.839 the Big Red Rage present of by Santan Ford and Gilbert, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.200 it's the team where Manias and Ford comes from the 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.799 last three years he had been with the Tennessee Titans. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.760 And we're gonna get a scouner report on the Cardinals 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.320 new GM. But first let's hear hear from the Cardinals 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.720 new GM and what he's looking for in a head coach, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.640 the specifics in terms of leadership in developing players and 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.360 coaches in being a teacher of fundamentals, details, and techniques. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.560 We're trying to build a sustainable program here. This is 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.720 not a short term fix. So we want a coach 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.920 that sees the big picture and understands that we're not 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.600 happy with just the results of twenty twenty three. We're 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.080 building this for extended championship teams as we move forward. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.560 He also used the phrase complete organizational alignment, and he's 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.160 talking about a direct line of communication between the head 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.040 coach and the GM and Wolf, you know, we talked 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:48.960 to players, we talked to people have been around the 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.800 legal long time. It's that line of communication and the 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.000 working relationship between a head coach and a GM that 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.760 can be the most important aspect of any successful organization. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.480 And the Cardinals last opponent, the San Francisco forty Niners, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.240 I think, is a good example of that. Back in 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.840 the day when they had Jim Harball and they had 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.400 Trent Bulky, they had talent, and they were going to 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.840 NFC championship games, but it wasn't sustainable because Bulky and 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.720 Harbaugh they didn't get along. Now, look at the current 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.239 situation when John Lynch and Kyle Shannah and one plus 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.840 one equals three. That's what you're looking for if you're 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.720 the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I know you're right, Polly, And 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.360 you know again, it doesn't mean that's going to be 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.200 the deciding factor. It doesn't, but boy, that's got to 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.480 be a big thing that you're a big box so 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.760 to speak, that you're checking right there. And that's why 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:42.120 it's very interesting Monnie Austin Fort and Brian Flores, right, Polly, yep, 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.520 going back to New England days, yea, going all the 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.520 way back to the New England days and maybe sharing 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.880 a football philosophy as well. I love the fact that 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.480 right there Monnie austen Fort was talking about fundamentals. He 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.480 was talking about detail, he was talking about techniques, Polly. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.839 That is, that is the things that you think of 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.320 a football player, building them from the ground up, from 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.120 the ground up is it's fundamentals. It's about the detail, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.000 the little things, the technique that a player is going 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.800 to use. I love the words that I'm hearing from 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.080 Monnie Asenford, and I do believe that a lot of 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.160 what he's saying right now can also be applied to 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.760 the next head coach coming in for the Arizona Cardinals, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.120 because you've got to share the same vision. And that's 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.079 the reason why the Brian Flores element is very appealing. 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.199 And when I ask you this question, it's almost a 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.960 rhetorical question because I know your answer. When I ask you, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.560 does a team take on the identity of its head coach, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.560 your answer would be yes, resoundingly still right, Yeah, No, Paulli, 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.480 it does. And it's one of the reasons why defensive 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:58.599 minded head coaches something that I like, because they are 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.600 they're just more physical. They demand it, They demand physicality 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.880 from their defensive guys. And because of that, I think 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.840 you flop it over and you put a head guy 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.920 up in front of the entire team, he's going to 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.920 do the same thing offensively. I know offensive line coaches 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.040 many many times they talk about being physical. I know 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.560 running back coaches as well, they'll talk about being physical. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.800 But for the most part, more times than not, there's 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.079 always going to be exceptions that are out there paully, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.360 But more times than not, defensive minded head coaches talk 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:38.280 more about physicality and toughness and the old way of 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.280 doing things then offensive minded head coaches. So if you're 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.200 Brian Flores or your Vance Joseph, probably the big question 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.800 you have to answer, who is your offensive coordinator? What 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.400 is your answer right by that side of the ball, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.040 you know, for Dan Quinn, for example, once a bun 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:54.880 of time when he went to Atlanta, who was his 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.840 zoc to start with? Kyle Shanahan. So if one of 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.520 those candidates Vance Joseph and Brian Flores had the next 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.240 Kyle Shanahan in the fold and the next great offensive mind, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.960 that goes a long way I would think towards being hired. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.480 And then if you're Sean Payton, well there's the aspect 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.240 of what are you going to pay Sean Payton? What 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.600 are you going to pay the New Orleans Saints in 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.839 terms of compensation and or picks? You know, there are 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.520 other things involved with Sean Payton, who's obviously a proven 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.480 a coach who has a Super Bowl ring, He has 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.679 that experience, and then he would be that exceptional offensive 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.560 mind who would have to connect and click with Kyler 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.880 Murray and try and bring him along. So there's a 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.560 lot to be evaluated here. And I tell you a 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.920 quick word. I asked Joseph just from where I'm sitting. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.720 Nobody knows this organization and this roster better, yes than 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.120 advanced Joseph. Yes, I think that's Yeah, that's something that 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.920 gives him an advantage over the others. Very detailed advanced 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.719 understanding to this team. Mike Key Titans played by play 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.920 man his next we'll talk about ego will need not 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.560 be tolerated? What does that mean? On the Big Red Rage, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:06.120 We're going to focus on a completely unified message across 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.640 the general manager, the head coach, and ownership to what 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.400 exactly we want to be as a football organization. We're 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.120 going to institute a thorough and exhaustive scouting process. We 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.840 are going to turn over every stone to find the 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.960 right players for this team. We are not just collecting talent. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.839 We're going to build a team. We're going to look 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.400 for the right type of players. Ego will not be 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:34.040 tolerated in this organization. We are going to look for focused, driven, 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.000 and people that are willing to put the team first 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.360 at every step of the way. And is the Cardinals 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.839 new voice the leadership the new GM Monty Austin Ford. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.440 One of the more memorable quotes from Monty's opening press conference, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.080 Just the first external candidate to be hired by the 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.840 Cardinals as soul GM since wait for it, and we 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:00.120 have been waiting then nineteen seventies. How about that? It's 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.880 Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert and 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.800 we aren't Santan Ford, Paul calBC, Ron Wolfley and twenty 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.160 one years NFL experienced for Manias and Ford. Wolf as 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.319 you know, last three is director of player personnel with 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.480 the Tennessee Titans. We're very familiar with the Titans. Radio 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.000 analyst the former Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was our 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.920 pleasure to visit with coach Mack back in August. What's 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.480 his go to line. By the way, I got two 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.160 things going from a good hair and a lot of money. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.600 That's what he used to say. That's right, a lot 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.120 of hair, a lot of money. So how about how 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.240 about we talked to the guy who's laughing? His long 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.960 time radio partner, the voice of the Tennessee Titans for 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:42.240 the last quarter century plus, going into his twenty sixth season, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.480 Mike Keith is our guest, and Mike, I don't know 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.600 about you, but one day, just one day, I'd love 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.320 to match the energy of Coach Mac. I don't think 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.360 it'll happen for me. I know that he's amazing, and 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.200 you know, we call him the most interesting man in 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:04.800 the NFL. As everywhere we go we run into people who, oh, 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.160 Coach macdess, Coach Mac that. And it's not like people 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.520 who are just you know folks. It's like famous people. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.680 It's like Joe Joe Greens and all these coaches and 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.800 all these great plays. It's like, what, how do you 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.200 know somehow he knew Brocod Girsky. I know he did. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:28.080 I know he did. Right. Well, Hey, you tell us 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.880 about Monte Osivar, give us a few quick thoughts and 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.360 then we'll get some specific questions. No, wolf has a 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.560 lot of questions, but just give us a thumbnail and 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.040 how long you've known money and what you've come to know. Well, 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.240 got to know him here over the last two years, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.880 because I did not know him in the COVID year. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.320 He came here from New England and there was a 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.120 there was a speculation, you know, he was mentioned as 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:56.280 one of the one of the really bright minds in 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.760 New England and there was some thought that he needed 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.280 to go somewhere else where he could prove that he 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.280 was also a bright mind other than Bill Belichick. And 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.880 you know, to a certain extent, anybody who works in 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:15.320 personnel there doesn't really get noticed very much. And so 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.400 coming to Tennessee, having the opportunity to work with his 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.000 old friend John Robinson and a group of other people 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.480 that he became really good friends within a short period 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:27.960 of time. And like I said, I've gotten to know 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.240 him over the last couple of years, one of the 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:34.520 more popular people on the football side with the non 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.800 football folks. Meaning he's a really good guy. And I 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.520 know that doesn't get you anywhere, but what it does 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.560 do is it gives you a start that you don't have. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.600 If you come in and you're talking about things in ways, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.800 here's what we're not going to let you do. You're 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.640 never gonna see this. We're never going to talk to you. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.320 This is never gonna happen. It's all a secret. This 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.320 is a guy with a good personality, a guy who 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.680 is genuine only somebody who's fun to hang around with, 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.640 but he's got all the requisite skills that come from 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.600 being trained in the way that he was, and that discipline. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.800 What you heard him talking about and how they're going 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:20.440 to approach things will work with his style overall. And 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.800 that's because he will be able to blend the personality 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.520 and the fact that he gets along with folks with 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.360 that discipline of how he's going to do that job 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.680 based on that Patriots training. I guess in a long way, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.920 what I'm saying is, I think you sort of get 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.160 the best of both worlds with Monti as a Ford. So, Mike, 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.040 following up on that right there, would you say that 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:47.400 Monty had any kind of connection or relationship with Mike 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.720 Vrabel as well? Or did Mike Vrabel value monte As 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.160 and Ford because of the organization he was coming from. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.400 You know, I think so I think there was certainly 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.880 something there. He would have been a very late tenure 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.719 guy in Mike's time as a player with the Patriots. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.439 But you know, there's a lot of respect among that 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.560 sort of fraternity. He and John Robinson certainly had it, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.120 even though they didn't really know each other very well. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.400 When Robinson hired Vrabel, there was this perception, oh, they 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.600 were big pals with you know, with the with the Patriots, 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.280 and you know how this works. Well, I mean, the 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.920 players don't know the all of the scouts very I 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.560 may know him to say hi or come across him 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.320 in the weight room or the locker room or something, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.359 but it's it's not it's not that way. I do 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.800 think there's a respect for the way they go about 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.439 their business. And you know, that's the thing that the 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:47.480 Patriots have done so well as they have been able 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.760 to identify people who fit with their system overall, to 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:57.280 plug in these great pieces around the Bradies and the 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.920 Gronkowskis and the Moors and people that they have somehow 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.480 found people in different ways. You know, they've they've signed 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.920 a lot of great free agents that other people went 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.880 what and yet they go in there and have really 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.600 successful careers, or you draft a guy like Kevin Falk 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.800 and what did he play thirty four years there? He's 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:25.200 caught like nine million passes and that, but he was 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.520 perfect for them, right, And so I think that's what 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.760 Monty has helped do well here in his time and 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.520 has certainly learned from Bilichick about how you're going to 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.760 piece together not just the one through ten. I think 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.040 a lot of us could get the one through ten. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.840 It's the eleven through sixty nine, counting the practice squad 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.000 that's really the trick. And that's where I think that 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.959 asin fort training and what he's going to get across 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.199 the staff is going to show up. I think the 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.040 Cardinals will be a much deeper team in terms of 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.440 players that can help them over a period of time. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.840 Mike Keith is our guest longtime voice of the Titans 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.200 here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.360 and Gilbert. Because you heard the one line in there 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.439 that got the most attention here in the AZ and 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.760 it's ego will not be tolerated in this organization. Most 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.800 people would attribute that to Belichick. Wolf played for Belichick 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.400 once about a time. I think he concurs he's talked 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.760 about that. To what degree is that a part of 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.119 the culture of the Titans And do you think Monty 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.280 is that guy to enforce that because the ownership group 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.600 has talked and Michael bid One in particular, about how 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:38.040 this team needs more accountability. Can Monty be that guy? Yeah? 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.080 I think you can see it here. I mean, that's 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.080 what we've done with the Titans over the period of 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.400 the last seven years and obviously didn't work out well 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.960 this year with the rundown of the season, But I 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.320 don't think it was because of anything the locker room. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:56.280 There's an accountability that has gone on and it's a 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:01.439 big thing with Rabel, and it's obviously a big thing Patriots. 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:06.080 The locker room polices the locker room, and the guys 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.639 have an understanding of where the piece is fit. A 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.119 lot of veteran players have come here over the last 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:17.359 five years and have just loved the culture because it's like, look, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.639 all I gotta do is gold play ball. Nobody is 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:26.160 any better than anybody else. Vrabel talked about it when 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.000 he first came. He goes, listen, I'm going to be 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.439 an equal opportunity deliver of grief. I didn't say that 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.639 exactly the way Vrabel would say. But the point was 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.160 one of the first practices Vrabel ever held. He gave 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.080 the business to our quarterback at the time, Marcus Mariota. 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.240 And you're like, whoa, this guy's saying something to the quarterback. 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.480 Not because Marcus was soft or whatever, but just normally 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.000 you don't hear the coach crack on the quarterback much. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:58.440 It just doesn't happen. Vrabel did. And because he's an 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:02.800 equal opportunity in terms of sticking it to people, he 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.000 sticks it to the best guy or the worst guy 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.879 and everybody in between. And I think that's probably a 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.160 lot of what Monty's talking about. I don't think he's 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.280 talking about it like genuine ego. I think what he's 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.160 talking about is we're gonna be in all fifty three. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.159 We're gonna be an all in. We're we're gonna outtough 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.640 people in this way because we're gonna be sticking together. 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.560 You know, when the bullets are flying, we're gonna be 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.160 there hanging in and hanging in and we're gonna we're 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.320 gonna outtough you over a period of time. The Patriots 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.000 don't get as much credit for that over the years. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.280 I think because of Brady, but there were so many 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.040 games you said, they have no chance to win because 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.880 they're playing Troy Brown in the secondary and they're doing 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.760 all these weird things that and yet they find a 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:57.040 way because they just keep fighting. That's been the tendency 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.560 here and the thing that has gone well. And I 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.520 think you're going to see him try to bring that 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.240 sort of culture there. I don't want to speak for money, 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.240 but I just know he believes in this sort of thing. 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.480 He believes in having guys who are going to fight 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.840 and fight and fight and who are going to fit. Yeah, Mike, 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.680 you know what, Honestly, when I think of the Tennessee Titans, man, 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.440 I do I think of a team that is tough. 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.840 I think a team that is physical, smart, high effort guys. 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.960 And I know in the two years that I played 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:35.560 for Bill Belichick in Cleveland, he wanted smart, tough, disciplined 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.760 football players. He just assumed you were going to be physical, 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.919 but he wanted smart, tough, and disciplined guys. That's what 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.480 he was looking for right there. In Every guy, whether 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.359 it was a draft picked, whether it was a free agent, 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:52.080 every guy was pulled through that filter before he walked 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:56.840 inside that locker room. I look at you guys, and 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.200