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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Rob got throu Is with us an author, paranormal investigator,

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Speaker 2: pet medium. Since he was a teenager, he could receive

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Speaker 2: messages from ghosts or spirits and distinguishes between them. He

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Speaker 2: recently retired from NASA, where he was a meteorologist for

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Speaker 2: almost twenty five years. Rob gives fundraising lectures for animal

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Speaker 2: rescues and teaches people how pet spirits communicate. Rob, it's

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Speaker 2: been about four years, but welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me back. How have

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Speaker 3: you been.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. How about yourself? Family? Good? Good?

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Speaker 3: Super?

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Speaker 2: How many launches did you have to scrub as a meteorologist?

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Speaker 3: Fortunately I wasn't involved in that aspect as mediurologists. I

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Speaker 3: focused on tropical meteorology, so I managed a hurricane page FANASA.

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Speaker 2: Are the hurricanes getting lighter? Are they still out there?

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Speaker 3: Oh, they're getting more intense. Yeah, they're getting much more intense.

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Speaker 3: As the world continues to warm, it holds more moisture.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing stronger storms. Actually, the National Weather Service National

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Speaker 3: Arcane Center had to alter the scale a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think that was back in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: So they cut back on. Noah, that wasn't a smart idea, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, no, no, I've noticed the degradation of some

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Speaker 3: of the forecasts, even in retirement.

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Speaker 2: What made you retire?

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Speaker 3: I'm old, You're not old. I'm old enough, so but yeah,

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Speaker 3: thank you. No, No, I reached retirement age and I

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Speaker 3: was with the government for twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: So how did you get involved in being a pit medium?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that's that's the other side of the coin.

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Speaker 3: So I developed a Yeah, I realized that I had

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Speaker 3: some kind of an ability when I was thirteen years old,

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Speaker 3: saw my grandfather appear to me and six months after

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Speaker 3: he died. Scared me, of course as a teenager, and

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Speaker 3: I talked to my parents about it. My mother confessed

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Speaker 3: that she had abilities and she kept them from us

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Speaker 3: because she didn't want us to think, you know, she's weird.

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Speaker 3: But long story short. When I was in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and five, I had a puppy that was tragically killed

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Speaker 3: the lightning rod for educating me about how pets communicate

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Speaker 3: from the afterlife, because he started right out of the

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Speaker 3: choot giving me signs that he was okay. So out

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Speaker 3: of a tragedy came came this gift. He reawakened my

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Speaker 3: abilities and it made me think about life in general, Georgia,

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Speaker 3: And one thing I've realized is that everybody has a

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Speaker 3: mission in life, even though our time is short, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes that mission is to help other people. And that's

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Speaker 3: what his mission was. He was only seven months old

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Speaker 3: mission has enabled me to bring healing to people around

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Speaker 3: the world.

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Speaker 2: What happened Did he run out in front of the

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Speaker 2: car or what happened?

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Speaker 3: We were I was walking him in my roommage dog

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Speaker 3: and his leash opened when he saw a dog across

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Speaker 3: somebody was speeding about fifty miles an hour on a

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they stopped, but they did and talk to me.

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Speaker 3: It was a very it was a tragic situation and

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Speaker 3: it was very strange. It was quite a blur, you know,

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Speaker 3: come out and helped me through, you know, sat with me,

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Speaker 3: manipulate electricity. They can. They can do things like turn

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Speaker 3: So I walked in this house and I was the

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Speaker 3: became the impetus for my first book.

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Speaker 2: And this little puppy was named buzz right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: named it Buzz.

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Speaker 3: That was my nickname. But when I was on the radio,

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Speaker 2: After Buzz aldering.

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Speaker 3: Maybe or just the effects of the coffee.

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Speaker 2: When did you decide to become a meteorologist?

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Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, I was I was very young. I grew

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Speaker 3: up in New England, and I was inspired by the

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Speaker 3: Blizzard of nineteen seventy eight, which was a blizzard that

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Speaker 3: crippled the East Coast, and I wanted to understand how

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Speaker 3: that could happen. I was a teenager, a young teenager

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Speaker 3: and fascinated by the weather, and then we got hurricanes,

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Speaker 3: of course, so between hurricanes and blizzards, that's what inspired

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Speaker 2: Do you know the name Cheryl Jones.

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Speaker 3: I do not.

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Speaker 2: She was a meteorologist for CNN and she is our

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter here. But she was a weather person in

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City, Missouri for years. But she was one

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Speaker 2: She still does a little weather on the side for us.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. A meteorologist never really retires because even now

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Speaker 2: The weather never changes, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't, it doesn't. Back to Buzz, Yeah, Buzz was so.

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Speaker 3: Buzz was only seven months when he passed away, and

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Speaker 3: and Buzz came through in different ways. So one of

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Speaker 3: another dog that resembled him, and it wasn't even in

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Speaker 3: you've never been, you should go. I have not. Oh well,

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Speaker 3: it's quite beautiful. There's multi colored, multi colored houses, and

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Speaker 3: nudged me? It was Buzz because there was a dog

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Speaker 3: And then it hit me the date. It was February

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Speaker 3: that made me think, this is not a coincidence. Absolutely

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Speaker 2: Tell you that is the birthdate of my late father.

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Speaker 3: Oh so this is uh, there's no such thing as

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Speaker 3: a coincidence. So that that means that your dad is

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Speaker 2: And he might be with Buzz too.

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Speaker 3: Did you did you have a dog growing up?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is so, this is why, this is

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Speaker 3: why I was influenced to tell this story. So, so

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Speaker 3: your dad and your dogs are all together.

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Speaker 2: They're watching over him, I hope, but.

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Speaker 4: I know you're gonna want some after hearing this. This

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Speaker 4: is an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine years

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.

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Speaker 5: It was Tye's book actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. It is an amazing immunal modulator, and

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Speaker 1: so I can see that it would work.

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Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there

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Speaker 4: was actually improvement it's really going to work.

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Speaker 5: Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 5: you know one the size of the warner. I thought,

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Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna wow. It's just been miraculous to

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Speaker 5: see him get into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see him so happy.

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Speaker 4: And yet it absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Friends that have seen it, that is blown away. Hi,

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Speaker 1: this is awesome, Yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: You've written about fifteen books I have.

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Speaker 3: I have. It's easy for me to write books. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand how how fiction writers can do it

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Speaker 3: I just published my fifteenth book. It's called The Haunting

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Speaker 3: of Wilson Castle, which is a castle in Vermont. I

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Speaker 3: did a paranormal investigation and covered quite a number of ghosts,

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Speaker 3: a lot of history, and we uncovered one hundred year

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Speaker 3: It's a family. It's about It's about a family that

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Speaker 2: So were you practicing animal after life work as a

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Speaker 3: Oh yes I was. But you know, when you when

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Speaker 3: you work for when you work with fellows scientists. There

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Did they know?

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Speaker 3: Though most of them did not know, there were a

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Speaker 3: it's this gift means that you can sometimes sense who

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Speaker 3: I did make a mistake of approaching someone that did

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Speaker 3: as a meteorologist, it was important for me to explain

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Speaker 3: So I applied the science of energy to this to

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Speaker 3: I could explain cold spots. I finally figured out why

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Speaker 3: So there are a lot of aspects of energy that

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I remember at four years old was the youngest,

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Speaker 3: I have found that they do come back, but they wait.

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought about that a lot, And so

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