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If you're listening on the podcast, 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: you know why you're here at this moment, because it 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: is time to welcome on the old pe Who Petros Papadakis, 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: you can hear on one of those affiliates, The Blowtorch 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: AM five seventy La Creal Fox College football analyst and 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: our good buddy Petros. 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning everybody. Hello. Do you know the 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: song Petros? It's about that's on Niki? Petros? Did you 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: pick the song? 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: No? 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: How did you know? Because the first line he said, 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: that's Niki move. 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of want to go back to uh 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: jella and that song. 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Ah, how did you know? Well you said it? Where 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: does that? 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: Where does this song rank amongst popular Greek songs of 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: all time? 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: I'm not really sure. It's probably pretty big and Thatsalikya, but. 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: What does that mean? It's a that'salo. 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 5: Niki is like the San Francisco to if Athens is 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 5: la That'salik's like San Francisco. 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: It's a northern Greek town. Can you take us one day? 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Can we go on a trip. 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 6: I've never been to the Sikile, that's even more reason 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 6: for us all go. 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: I know people that used to live there. Though. It's 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: a nice place. I heard it's really cool. Where do 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: you go when you go to Greece? 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: I was married in a town on the backside of 56 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 5: the island of Rhodes, which is not a place where 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: my family is from. But ever since we got married 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 5: there in the Greek church and my wife converted in 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: all that, people in the village sort of remember us. 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 5: So I like to go back there. But this time 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: of year it's desolate. I mean, there's nobody there. Greek 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 5: islands are very seasonal, so the people that live there 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 5: during this time of year live a very austere, spartan lifestyle. 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: There's not much open, there's no club life, it's cold, 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 5: it rains, so it's really a summertime thing out there. 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: But the town I got married and if anybody wants 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: to look it up, is a place called Landos l 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: n dos Rhads, which is very old old actually, the 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 5: village predates the name of the island of Rhodes and 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: was mentioned in the Iliad by Homer, So they're very 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: proud and there's about three hundred of them. And there's 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: a lot of British people there because Roads used to 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: be a British island during the Crusades, so there's British 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 5: castles and stuff like that. And there's a lot of 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: automate influence because Rhodes is really close to Turkey the Turkeys, Yeah, 76 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 5: used to be Turkey, so and that that's also very 77 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: volatile between the Greeks and the Turk. So very interesting 78 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 5: place of antiquity. 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: But my family, very interesting history. 80 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 5: Lesson my family is from the Peloponti switch is below Athens. 81 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: Did you get good grades, man, No, like you're super smart, 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 6: And I was about to say you probably got horrible grades. 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: You're probably just an average student. I was not a 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: good student. I did better in college, okay. 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 6: And the reason why I say that, let me let 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 6: me qualify it because and I'm calling you a brilliant 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 6: dude on having information. No, you are a pretty brilliant dude. 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 7: Man. 89 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 6: I listened to the things you say. But generally people 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 6: is intelligent as you are aren't stimulated enough because you're 91 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 6: generally probably more intelligent than the person who was probably 92 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 6: tasked with educating you. So you end up being a 93 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 6: person that it doesn't do very well in school. 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: So I was not a good student. Okay, you weren't interested, 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: that's all I guess not I was seen as an idiot. 96 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, class clown, but your class clownness, your class clownness 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 6: was offensive and bothersome to those who ran the classrooms 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 6: because it was over their head or. 99 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 2: Its equal trying to learn? 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I good at the normal better 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 6: the normals. 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: You know, you're you're not a normal dude. Bro, You're 103 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: a pretty different dude. 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: And speaking of different dudes, why don't you ever come 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 6: to the NFF dinner? 106 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: Man? What's the NFF? National Football Foundation? You're? Oh, what's 107 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: good about football? Man? Like, you know, I do this campaign. 108 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get Q one day as well, but I 109 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 6: do interviews for podcasts do called good in the game, 110 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: and it's for the National Football Foundation. It's like all 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 6: about talking about things that had led to you being 112 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 6: like who you are and how much the game. 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: Played a part in it. 114 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 6: Uh, I feel like this event would be I know 115 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 6: you don't like being around people, but it still seems 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 6: like it would be an event where. 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: Where you have to get on a plane. 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 6: Yeahs, don't have to You don't have to fly. You 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 6: can draft Vegas. Isn't a bad draft from where you're at. 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: No, I've done it. 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: I went to the Mountain West Media Day and I 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: was just in Vegas calling a football game at Allegiant. 123 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you fly or did you draft? 124 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: I flew because I had to fly to San Diego 125 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: afterwards and call another game in San Diego? 126 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: You did JSX? What is that jet? Sweet X? It's 127 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: like a privat jet, but it's like a public private jet. 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: I didn't do that. That definitely afraid of flying. I 129 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: don't like it. No, huh, Like what does that happen? 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: It all the time? 131 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't you guys want to talk about college football? 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 6: I'm enjoying breaking you down. Yeah, I mean, you know, 133 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: we bring a lot of time. 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: You know, when I was a child, I was gripped 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 5: with fear and then I kind of just sort of. 136 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Bulowed over with with uh just will. 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: But now that I'm getting older, I'm becoming very afraid again. 138 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: How do you play football when you're gripped with fear? 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 6: Like that's a total antithesis, answered, give it to us fearfully. 140 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 6: You know, we started the show with Mark, with Big 141 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 6: John Henderson, and you remember the clip of him getting 142 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 6: smacked by by his trainer and he's like, come on, 143 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 6: come on, slap me harder, and like he said, because 144 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: he was super like, No, I don't think he said scared, 145 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 6: but he said crazy, nervous and wanted to get his 146 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 6: it out before he even went out on the field. 147 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 6: So you would have his trainer slapped the hell out 148 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 6: of him in the training room before he went out 149 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 6: to the field for warm ups. 150 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Yes, anxiety. 151 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 6: Did you have somebody slapping the hell out of you 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 6: to get the anxiety out of you? 153 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: I did not. Gripping fear. I didn't. Maybe I should have, well, 154 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: talk to us, talk to us. 155 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: So what you've witnessed from college football, there's been a 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: lot of that conversation going on. I'm kind of curious 157 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: the playoff, the group of six teams getting in and 158 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: didn't get left out. 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 5: It's really it's really becoming quite a saga, isn't it. 160 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 5: And the whole story about when they expanded the playoff, 161 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 5: and some of the detractors said, but people aren't going 162 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: to care about who doesn't get in if so many 163 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: teams get in. I think that story or narrative has 164 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 5: kind of been crushed, especially this year. And I think 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 5: the College Football Playoff really did benefit last year from 166 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 5: having Notre Dame play in four of the games, and 167 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: that became a huge story. And Notre Dame is the 168 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 5: number one brand in all of college sports. So they 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 5: are upset and but heard about this because they feel used. 170 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 5: They feel used, I believe by Disney and the ESPN entity. 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: Here's what bothers me about it. ESPN has a big 172 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 5: stake in the ACC, right if they don't basically own it. Yeah, 173 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: they own the SEC, they own the College Football Playoff. 174 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 5: They own a bunch of shows that sit there and 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: argue about all of it and wag the dog and 176 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: get everybody all riled up, including the selection show, which 177 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 5: Notre Dame feels misled by. And then we all go 178 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 5: through these machinations or these stages of the cross or 179 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 5: whatever you call it to satisfy ESPN basically in a 180 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: giant circle jerky. It's crazy. 181 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: It's everybody. 182 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: It's all the same people doing the same thing and 183 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: creating the story. Notre Dame obviously, I mean two things 184 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 5: can be true at the same time. Is Notre Dame 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 5: being a little bit petulant? Perhaps, But do they have 186 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 5: a point? Absolutely, they have a point, and they feel 187 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 5: on the outside of this. Notre Dame is the only team. 188 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure, as was evidenced by the Longhorn Network, 189 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: Notre Dame is the only team that can have their 190 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: own TV deal and they've proven it out since what 191 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 5: is it, nineteen ninety one? 192 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: Nineteen? 193 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: How long have they been on an NBC forever? And 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 5: as long as somebody's willing to pay them and they 195 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: have their own TV deal, they don't have to join 196 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 5: anybody's conference or playing anybody's reindeer games. Maybe they have 197 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 5: to adjust their scheduling. I don't know, but I see 198 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 5: their point. Maybe Bovaqua has done one or two too 199 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: many press conferences, but I understand that they're upset about it, 200 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 5: and I just what bothers me is. 201 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't like pretending. 202 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: That ESPN doesn't own it all and is pulling all 203 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 5: the strings, and that's part of the problem. And Fox, 204 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: where we work, as part of the problem too, because 205 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 5: they own the Big ten and represent the Big ten 206 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 5: and both entities run college football, and we're basically making 207 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 5: it up as we go along, and that's going to 208 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: lead to a lot of incongruity. That's always been our sport. 209 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: There's always been a lot of confusion and a lot 210 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: of argument. It's kind of made the sport what it is, 211 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: and the regional nature of the sport and people having 212 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: temper tantrums and getting upset and calling others out and 213 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 5: press conferences and things like that is part of it. So, 214 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I understand it pretty well. But the part 215 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 5: that bothers me is that ESPN owns all of it 216 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: and we're all just going through the motions for him, 217 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: and I'm tired of that. 218 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 4: So I've kind of taken this stance on on social 219 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: media for whatever the whatever that matters. But Notre Dame 220 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: decides to opt out of the ball game, and I 221 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: understand the motivations as to why, based on how ESPN 222 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: handled the college football playoffs, some of the things that 223 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 4: were told in the weeks leading up that they were 224 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: going to be good, they were going to make it 225 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 4: in and obviously that rug gap pulled out from underneath 226 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: of them in the final ranking, and then you know, 227 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: ESPN turns around and says. 228 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Hey, but come play this bull game. You know you 229 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: want to play for a national. 230 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: Chance we own and we're gonna, Yeah, we're going to 231 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 5: man pop Tart. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make you 232 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 5: do snow Angels in the rosting. 233 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 234 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: And we're going to make sure that we bring in 235 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: a team that also didn't get in as frustrated in BYU, 236 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: and we're going to promote the fact that neither of 237 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: your institutions wants anyone to have sex before marriage and 238 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: go from there. But there's a lot of pushback from people, 239 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: and it feels like it's mostly from ESPN folks because 240 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: obviously this hurts their bottom line, but even like other 241 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: people out there, which they're chiming in, and I'm kind 242 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: of like, here's my opinion on all this. We played 243 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: in a Bowl game when after ty Wllingham got fired, 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: and we voted as a team to do it because 245 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: of a lot of our upper classmen said, unless you're 246 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: playing for a national championship, which at that day and 247 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: age right, it was all the BCS or at BCS 248 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: New York six game, you don't go. And we had 249 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: to convince our upper class and to go and it 250 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: was like a sixty to forty VOA. And you know 251 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: what happened in that bowl game. No one took a 252 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: we got beat up. No one took us seriously, Like 253 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 4: the coaches were looking for jobs players. Everyone was going 254 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: out the entire time. We're in Scott's though. No one 255 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: took it seriously, and everyone says, like, we'll look back 256 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: on it, you know, would you have done something differently? Yeah, 257 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: probably not go Probably not go to a bowl game 258 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: that it was a great experience. I had a fun 259 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: time with my teammates, but it was basically a party. 260 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: Could have done that on campus, could have gone on 261 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: vacation together, something else. And so today, like twenty some 262 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: years later, like I look at a Petros and guys 263 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: are opting out because they either going to the draft 264 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: or maybe they're just going to go in the transfer portal, 265 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: or maybe there's even some players who have some injuries 266 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: that need to get stuff taken care of. Coaches are 267 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: looking at the transfer port that comes up here in 268 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: January trying to either retain. 269 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Guys or fill in spots in their roster. 270 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: It's like it almost makes the case like why would 271 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: you play an exhibition game if you're not playing for 272 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: national championship. Like, I understand that everyood loves football is 273 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: for the love of the game and all that, but 274 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: really it's like, what's the upside. 275 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: Anymore with some of these games? Some of them? 276 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: Right, every team has their own story and every individual 277 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: coach and group of players has its own motivation. So 278 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 5: I think you're absolutely right. For some people, it doesn't 279 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: make sense. For others, they're hypermotivated to have the extra 280 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: practice and try to keep the team together and retain players, 281 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: or have one more game together and do all that 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: stuff that we say. I think it goes both ways, 283 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: and I absolutely agree with all of your points. 284 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: I don't think Notre Dame wanted. 285 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: To play in ESPN's charade this year after they felt 286 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 5: used by ESPN during the year, and I think that's 287 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 5: absolutely fine that they didn't want. 288 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: To do it. 289 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 5: And it's totally understandable for some people or some teams 290 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: and some individuals the Bowl game is meaningful. For others, 291 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: just depending on circumstance. 292 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: It isn't. 293 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: And I think that's fine. If I'm Notre Dame, I 294 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: wouldn't want to go have mayonnaise port all over my head, 295 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 5: or run around with the giant pop tart and sit 296 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: there and play while the announcers eat and chew in 297 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: the microphone. I totally get it. It totally makes sense 298 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 5: to me. The Bowl season has become something different. I 299 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to go away, or how 300 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 5: many will go away, or what will happen, but I 301 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 5: think you're absolutely right. It's just the part that bothers 302 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: me is that everybody just acts like the whole thing's 303 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: not orchestrated by ESPN and their pundits go on and 304 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: make all these points and get all excited and point counterpoint, 305 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 5: and of course we don't have any like It's the 306 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,119 Speaker 5: most ridiculous thing in the world. It's worse than politics. 307 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 5: And that's part of the problem here. I think, if 308 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: you're going to have a committee, which it's not necessary, 309 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 5: but if you're going to have a committee, just have 310 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: football people. Are media people like Ivan masl Is on there. 311 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: That's great. 312 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: The guys worked everywhere and Sports Illustrated and all that. 313 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 5: Chris All, Mike Riley, Wesley Walls like those are hardcore 314 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 5: football people. But with all due respect to administrators, ads 315 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: are politicians, and politicians do what they flip on public opinion. 316 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 5: They have yeah, politics, politics, publicy, no backbone whatsoever. And 317 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 5: that's why you'll have Notre Dame ahead of Miami all 318 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: year and then suddenly the year ends and it flips 319 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: because of political pressure. 320 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: And that's what you have. 321 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: On this board or committee or whatever with a bunch 322 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: of ads. If you need to have an administrator, have 323 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: one ad be in charge of the whole thing and administrate. 324 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: But to have a bunch of. 325 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 5: Ads in this group makes the group political and politics suck. 326 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 5: If you're going to have a Maybee, you have hardcore 327 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 5: football people, and you'll probably have a less offensive vote 328 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 5: at the end of the year or less surprising vote 329 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 5: at the end of the year. 330 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 6: Pat tros H, let me follow up on what Q 331 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 6: was saying. Not to step on one, you Jones, but 332 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 6: they want to get too far away from what Q 333 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 6: said the first time in track Yeah yeah, ten dollars yeah, 334 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 6: uh so, so let me ask you. 335 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. 336 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 6: This, Does this actually create a critical mass situation in 337 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 6: your estimation, like the fact that the premise behind why 338 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 6: Notre Dame doesn't want to do it, you know, doesn't 339 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 6: want to play this game and do the ring around 340 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 6: the Rosie dance with ESPN. Does this set a precedence 341 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: that could be dangerous to ESPN moving forward? 342 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they're going to sell off their stuff. 343 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 5: I think what's likely to happen is they'll be a 344 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 5: bigger playoff. ESPN will sell off some of that to Fox, 345 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 5: just like they've sold some of it off. 346 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: To TNT, and the charade will continue. 347 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: I think the conference championship games are obviously in jeopardy 348 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: unless they become playoff elimination. 349 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: Games, which would make a little bit more sense. 350 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 5: And then you have the big mass of bowl games. 351 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: Some of those are probably going to end up going 352 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 5: away as well. We need a commissioner or some kind 353 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 5: of czar of college football, but who's going to agree 354 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 5: on that. I mean, the two people that are in 355 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 5: charge are the people that run ESPEN and Fox, behind 356 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: the proxies of the big ten in the SEC. So 357 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: I think that we reach critical mass a few years ago, 358 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: probably LeVar, But there's nobody with enough power to get 359 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: everybody under the same roof and to fix the thing. 360 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 5: So if what you like about college football is the chaos, 361 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 5: which is basically what it's always been, then this is 362 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: a great. 363 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: Time to alive. 364 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: Has what college football's turned into because you're somebody who 365 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: grew up family history in college football, you love the 366 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: traditions all that come along with it. Has sort of, 367 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: and we talked about a little in the offseason, has 368 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: this mixed with, you know, the business side and the 369 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: discussions and the has it kind of I don't want 370 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: that tainted. For lack of a better term, I don't know. 371 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all on the whole sport, not. 372 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 5: Really, because if you look back on it, there really 373 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 5: is no good reason that we have and I'm sure 374 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 5: I've made this point before, but there's no good reason 375 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: to have these gigantic, multi billion dollar football entities within 376 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: our institutions of higher education. In so many ways, the 377 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 5: football team has become the identity of a lot of 378 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 5: these schools, and those two things they really don't jib 379 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: It's just something that happened in the early part of 380 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: the twentieth century. And I don't think it happened on purpose. 381 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 5: It happened because the sport was popular and there was 382 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 5: a demand for it, just like it would happen with 383 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: any sport that got popular. The pile of money that 384 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: started being made by the athletic departments because of the 385 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 5: TV deals and all the endowment and the boosters and 386 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 5: all that stuff. It got so big that it kind 387 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: of towered behind the people that were in front of it, 388 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: and that money has to be distributed to people that 389 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 5: are playing. 390 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: At this point, it just has to be. 391 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 5: We could say when Mike was going to games with 392 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: my grandfather and my dad at the coliseum and watching 393 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 5: players play and listening to the fight song, that it 394 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: was a purer time. 395 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 2: But what's so pure about it? 396 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: You have a bunch of guys making a bunch of 397 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 5: money for the university that end up getting spit out 398 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: by the program when their career is over. We've all 399 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: seen what football can do for people in a positive way, 400 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: we've all seen what it can do for people in 401 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: a negative way, and we've all seen the ugly side 402 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 5: of the sport, however you want to define that. And 403 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 5: all of that stuff was going on when we thought 404 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: the game was more quote unquote pure. So I think 405 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: we've always been in the sewer and now it's just 406 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: a lot harder to maintain a team and grow a 407 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 5: team and to cultivate a culture, but that doesn't mean 408 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: we still don't have culture, and we still don't have games, 409 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 5: and we still don't have identities of coaches and programs. 410 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: So I look back. 411 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: I try to avoid talking about the good old days 412 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: because I don't think they exist. I think this has 413 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: been an evolving kind of It's been an evolving anomaly 414 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 5: for over one hundred years, ever since Redgrange made the 415 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 5: sport popular at Illinois. And we live in it now 416 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: and there's nobody. The NCAA is two week to take over. 417 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: The TV companies aren't going to get along and promote us. 418 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: I mean, we've had some uniformity. The SEC agreed to 419 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: play the extra conference game and all that, and they 420 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: closed one of the transfer portals. So you could say 421 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 5: that's progress, but it's a little bit like throwing a 422 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: deck chair off the Titanic with all the stuff that's 423 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 5: going on. 424 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: It's a great visual. 425 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 4: By the way, you also talked about the expansion and 426 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: Fox can get peace. I'm not so sure a little 427 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: bit because of how divisive things are between ESPN and Fox. 428 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: And they'll be do a TNT branding. I believe on 429 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: this year's playoff in some games. I mean, TNT is 430 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: really not involved much at all in college football. 431 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: But I digress. I want to generally ask you this. 432 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: You're done with call on games, like, yes, well obviously 433 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 4: you got the radio show going on, But is this 434 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: kind of a like what do you venture into this 435 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: time of year? 436 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 5: Some other stuff you guys are doing. I assume family 437 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: traveling all that. I wish I could find a way 438 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 5: to make some more money, but well, the Pro Football 439 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: Foundation or the National NFF give me some money. 440 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: To tell my story. 441 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I need money, but this time of year I 442 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: just kind of delve back into family life and try 443 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 5: to make sure trying to make sure that everybody gets 444 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: their holiday wishes, and trying to support my wife. It's 445 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: not an easy time because you kind of strive and 446 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 5: strive for the year to end, as you guys know, 447 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: in the football season, and then the year ends and 448 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: you remember all of the problems that you had before 449 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: it began, and you kind of. 450 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: Have to go back to working on those. So that's 451 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: kind of where I'm at. 452 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: Usually I go through a real state of elation when 453 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 5: the season is over, and then a feeling of loss 454 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 5: and desolation, which is what. 455 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: Is there any sort of optimism or positivity. Can you 456 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: can talk to us about this time of day? No, 457 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean the Dodgers signed Edwin. 458 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the trumpet guy, he plays a trumpet out of his. 459 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Ass and then he comes. They do that, the Dodgers, Yeah, 460 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna do it. Oh yeah. 461 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 5: They used to have the Eric Gangne Welcome to the Jungle, 462 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 5: and he used to come out and blow people down. 463 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 5: And then they had California Love with Kenley Jansen not 464 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 5: as popular, and now they'll do the trumpet butt call. 465 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: Well, Petro's gonna be great always. Uh, He's appreciated. 466 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: It's another guy that blew out his knee celebrating like 467 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 5: Martine great Gramatica. 468 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah in the the World Baseball Classic. 469 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: I believe when he did it. Yeah, WBC. Yeah. 470 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Petros Papa Vegas, the co host of the Petros and 471 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A 472 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: five seventy l a Sports Fox college football analyst. 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Everybody has been really, 571 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: really entertaining. Pete Bavaqua, the Notre Dame athletic director, spoke 572 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: yesterday about sort of how things kind of took a 573 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: turn when it came to dealing with the ACC and 574 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: Jim Phillips, the commissioner of the ACC, let's take a listen. 575 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 8: I think it was like a three to three and 576 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 8: a half week campaign. Saw the first social media post, 577 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 8: and my gut reaction was somebody in their socialmediate department 578 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 8: got over their skis and did something that the ACC 579 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 8: was going to correct. And quite frankly, I was kind 580 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 8: of expecting a phone call saying, hey, sorry about that. 581 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 8: It won't happen again. But then it did happen again, 582 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 8: and we started to communicate with the ACC texts that 583 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 8: I sent, emails that I sent, and it continued to 584 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 8: happen and I had a conversation, I had a phone 585 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 8: call with Jimmy we could go today saying hey, listen, 586 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 8: you know that's a conversation I want to keep between 587 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 8: me and Jimmy, but certainly got the point across that 588 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 8: this was raised eyebrows and you got to know it's 589 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 8: caused damage here between the university and the ACC. It 590 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 8: just kind of puzzled us that a conference that's home 591 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 8: to over six hundred of our student athletes walking around 592 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 8: this campus today, I guess chose to go down that road. 593 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: Why would you attack. 594 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 8: An unbelievably important business partner of yours in football and 595 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 8: a member of your conference in twenty four other sports. 596 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: So that's a Notre Dame athletic Derek Man. Have you 597 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: talked to him? I haven't talked to Pete. 598 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: I haven't talked to our athletic director, but I would 599 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: generally just say this. 600 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: You know, college football is what ultimately drives the revenue, 601 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: drives ratings, and that's Notre Dame's identity. 602 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 4: So I personally look at it and say, I get 603 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: it from both sides of it, Like I understand that 604 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: there's a lot of other sports student athletes who are 605 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: maybe looking at it going, well, we're in the ACC, 606 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: like why why are they campaigning like that? 607 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: But I also look at it and said, you're not 608 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: for football. 609 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: And if Jim Phillips, who's the conference commissioner, is okay 610 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: with them pushing for a team like Miami pushing for 611 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: their conference champion, Duke, Like, I get it, that's fine. 612 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it. 613 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 4: Like I don't look at social media, and maybe that's 614 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: just the difference in age and experience and all that 615 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: as social media, like I don't look at it to 616 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: be this sort of professional platform. 617 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: It's just not so. When we really. 618 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: Want to boil us down and say, well, there was 619 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: a campaign to me person, I'm like, all right, like 620 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: water under the bridge, you know. I think one of 621 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: the things that that I looked at it was like, okay, 622 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: this is more of what I would say was kind 623 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: of an issue. Is when you do something out of 624 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 4: the norm, like the ACC network continually playing the Notre 625 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: Dame Miami game for like two three days straight, whatever 626 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 4: it was. When you see stuff like that, you're like, okay, 627 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: that's a little different. Like that's someone who's actually taking 628 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 4: cable channel like airtime and they're playing it over and 629 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: over and over again, which is out of the norm. 630 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: They've never done that before. I think were the intentions 631 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: were to make sure they reminded people that mind me 632 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame, and by political ads that you see 633 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: exactly like that was where you kind of felt like, okay. 634 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 6: But you're making it us versus them thing, and that's 635 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 6: kind of what the idea is really trying to drive 636 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 6: home here, right. 637 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the one thing that gets a 638 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 4: little bit like the where the water gets a little muddied, 639 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: is like, you have a partial affiliation. So even though 640 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: it's twenty four of the sports, you're also playing five 641 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 4: games a year that are against the ACC, and the 642 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 4: ACC schedules that like Notre Dame Messina any control over 643 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 4: which five of those are. There's a lot of people 644 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: don't understand how the scheduling comes about for Notre Dame. 645 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: That's part of that. A lot of people, by the. 646 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 4: Way, are like, oh, the ACC saved Notre Dame during COVID, 647 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: and there's some truth to that as far as what 648 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 4: the that schedule is going to look like for them 649 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 4: because of how various conferences handled COVID. 650 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: I will remind people too though the one year they. 651 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: Are part of the conference, they swept the regular season 652 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 4: and they played the conference championship game lost to Clemson. 653 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: But still if people wanted to join a conference, that's fine. 654 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: I think Notre Dame is going to compare favorably versus 655 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: most they would have in the playoff this year, versus 656 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: SEC opponents. 657 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: But I think the greater thing that I would draw. 658 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: Or point to that ultimately led to the frustration for 659 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 4: Notre Dame fans not getting the playoff at least in 660 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: regards to the ACC was the way they went about 661 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 4: determining who played the conference championship game. 662 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: That should be the same for every powerful conference. 663 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 4: The fact that we don't have, I mean, and this 664 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: is really the greater issue in college football, the fact 665 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 4: that not everyone plays nine conference games, which they will 666 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 4: starting next year. 667 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: You get the SEC doing that, obviously, the Big Ten 668 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: does that, the Big Twelve, et cetera. You're getting a 669 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: little bit closer to that. 670 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 4: But then it's like, okay, well can we all agree 671 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: not to schedule FCS opponents. Like if you look at 672 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 4: a lot of these old MISS resumes this year, or 673 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: excuse me, the SEC resumes this year Old MISS in particular, 674 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: they've had an SEC opponent on it. If you really 675 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 4: break down, they played three teams with winning records the 676 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 4: three or four teams something like that. It's like, all right, well, 677 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 4: how hard was that schedule that no one's talking about 678 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: that just because they have one loss, It wasn't that 679 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: difficult of a schedule. So there's a lot of inequities, 680 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 4: unequal you know, schedules that were trying to compare it 681 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 4: to determine who should be playing off for this thing. 682 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: Well that even extends to the conference championship game. How 683 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 4: do we get those two teams there? If they had 684 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 4: adopted the AAC tie breaking scenarios, which is head to 685 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: head then the highest college football playoff ranking, you know 686 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: which two teams are, you would have got Miami versus UVA. 687 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 4: Miami would have won. Miami's in, Jmu's out, not her 688 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 4: names in. And that's probably how it should have worked. 689 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: Like, as much as. 690 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: We want to make this a whole Notre Dame Miami 691 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: thing and everything else, Miami should have won the ACC. 692 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: They're the best team in the conference. 693 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: Instead you have Duke playing offers Uva as a five 694 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: loss conference champ because of their odd tie breaking. It 695 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: was what record versus common opponents or winning percentagers common opponents, 696 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 4: some odd way in which they went to a third tiebreaker. 697 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 6: But that's not an automatic qualifier, right, Well, no, no, 698 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 6: it would be. 699 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 2: It would be an qualify. It would be automatic qualifier. 700 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean you get a buy So two years 701 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 4: ago it meant you would have you the top four 702 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: highest conference champion reicks, we'll get buys. 703 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: Now they just said it's automat qualifiers. So duke, it's in. 704 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: They're not in the playoffs. No, that's what I'm saying. 705 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 4: So because they but no, no, because they weren't one 706 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: of the five highest ranked conference champions. 707 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: They're a five lost team. Yeah. 708 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 6: But I think what I think some people have been 709 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: getting turned around and mixed up on what automatic qualifying represents. Like, 710 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 6: doesn't mean that if you win your conference in a 711 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 6: power in one of the power in any of the 712 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 6: power for conferences, that you're an automatic quality. That's not it. 713 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: Well again, it's it's that's not it because of the 714 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 4: way these different conferences construct their tie breaking scenarios. Yeah, 715 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 4: it should all be the same, Like aren't we all 716 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 4: angling towards the same thing, Like we're trying to get 717 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 4: all the best teams playing for it. So if you 718 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 4: have different conference tie breaking scenarios, you're gonna come up 719 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: with a different result. The ACC came up with this 720 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 4: result where Duke's playing UVA, and if Duke wins, the 721 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 4: disaster scenario for the ACEC they have to sit there 722 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 4: and look at their conference champ with five losses. That's 723 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 4: not gonna get in the playoff. I had no shot 724 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 4: getting the playoff, even though they I think they ESPN 725 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 4: had someone there. You're standing on campus to the microphone like, yeah, 726 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: Jonas up here. We think that Duke Blue Devils ma 727 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: have a shot and get again at that's like, no, 728 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 4: they have no shot. 729 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 6: But you get an ACC team into the College Football 730 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 6: Playoff though. 731 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 4: You do, but they're not recognized as their conference champ, right, 732 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: That's what they're saying. They have to be lucky enough 733 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: that the committee finally moved them ahead of Notre Dame 734 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: because they head. 735 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 6: To head like Ohio State wasn't in the Big Ten 736 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 6: championship game last year, and they and think about it, 737 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 6: and I said that I made this point. Ye before 738 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 6: you have a national title holder that didn't even win 739 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 6: their conference. 740 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 4: There's a there's a conference. Yeah, there's a conference. All 741 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 4: four teams last year in semi files. None of them, 742 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: none of them, none of them won the conference. Weird, So 743 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: so why I don't find by that? 744 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 6: But whytchul to me, why should the conference championship matter? 745 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that brings up another question? Why should it? 746 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 4: Like like if i'm if i'm you know, I mean, 747 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to talk for Peter, I'm not trying 748 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 4: to talk to anything else. 749 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: I would I would step back from. 750 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 4: All of this and say, we're not going to point 751 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 4: out like how we feel like we were in you 752 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 4: know it was injust with what happened. Let's talk about 753 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 4: this whole process and let's better understand how we get 754 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 4: to the best twelve of teams playing for it because 755 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: we don't all have the same criteria, we don't all 756 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 4: have the same stuff. But everyone who wants to hold 757 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: that over Notre Dames head. But join a conference, you 758 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: join a conference. You don't need to join a conference 759 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 4: in order to win the national championship, because why the 760 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 4: teams in the conferences don't win their conference and go 761 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: play for a national championship? 762 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 2: They played for one last year? Yeah past your point, 763 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: Ohio State won it last. 764 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 4: Year and they didn't play in their conference champions So 765 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 4: like then it kind of devalues it all together. So 766 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 4: now it makes it like, well, why don't we figure 767 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 4: out a way of structuring this where those games are 768 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 4: like playing games, you know during that weekend? 769 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: Why are we doing conference championship weekend? 770 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 4: Why can't we do like some sort of hey the 771 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 4: top you know, however many teams, the rankings are all 772 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: squaring off. 773 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like you could start that round. 774 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 4: There as opposed to saying we got to play conference championships, 775 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 4: then we gotta go to the first round. Then we're 776 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 4: gonna go to the quarterfinal, like you could. You could 777 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 4: expand this thing to sixteen, and we could start this 778 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 4: thing a little sooner, which I think a lot of 779 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 4: people would be all four. 780 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 6: There's too many sensitivities on trying to get X amount 781 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 6: of teams in. 782 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: That's what I think. Yeah, well I think that's part 783 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: of it. 784 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 4: I think the other thing is there's a lot of 785 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 4: good stuff out there right now with the holidays coming up. 786 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: But I want to ask you, have you guys heard 787 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: about this trainer games Todd this to your binge list. 788 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 2: I know, Jonas, you've got stuff to watch. 789 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: Ten athletes go head to head for a chance to 790 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 4: win an I fits trainer contract. It's worth two hundred 791 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 4: and fifty thousand dollars. Put down your your pipe and 792 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 4: smoke it. 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By the way. 804 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: With the iHeartRadio App, you can stream us wherever you 805 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox 806 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and the 807 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: new and improved iHeart Radio App. Search Fox Sports Radio 808 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: and the after stream us live all day, every day. 809 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to select Fox Sports Radio is one of 810 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: your precints in the iHeart apps, so will always pop 811 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: up at the top of your screen. And congratulations to 812 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. They've got a brand new quarterback in 813 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: their roster. What's his name, Sims? Philip Rivers. Oh, granddaddy. 814 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: Granddaddy is back at forty four years old. He is 815 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: signed to the Colts practice squad. He could be an 816 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: option if Riley Leonard can't go because of the knee 817 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: injury he suffered. Daniel Jones has been placed on season 818 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: ending ir that's a wrap on his season. And here 819 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: we go with Philip Rivers potentially taken over as quarterback 820 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: one in Indianapolis. 821 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: So interesting. 822 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 4: Note he's on the practice squad now, which means he's 823 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 4: still eligible to be voted in. He's a semi files 824 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 4: for the Hall of Fame. He's still eligible as of 825 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 4: now to be voted now. If he gets moved to 826 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 4: the active roster, clock resets, so you have to wait 827 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 4: another five years. 828 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 2: So interesting kind of note to that. 829 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: So obviously he has a desire to want to do 830 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 4: this to help out to go play. He's been coaching 831 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 4: with high school football, probably. 832 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: Slinging it around. You know, it feels good, they said. 833 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 2: He looked good in the workout. 834 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 4: I think I wonder too if he's seeing not only 835 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 4: how much money some guys are making now, but just 836 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 4: the protection quarterbacks are getting, and he's thinking I can 837 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 4: go in and do this, like I can still go 838 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 4: in and do this. 839 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm out of loss for words on this one. Is 840 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 2: all I'm gonna say. 841 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 6: Forty four, Like I'm literally three to four years older 842 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 6: than him, and. 843 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 2: I know how I feel. I feel old. 844 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 6: He's got to feel old. He's played. He played a 845 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 6: lot longer than I did. I just I don't understand it. Like, listen, 846 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 6: a lot of people had a problem when George Foreman 847 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 6: came back. 848 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 2: You're old, You're over the hill. That'll never work out 849 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 2: for you. When you get punched, you'll realize you're too 850 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: old for this and you'll go back into retirement. 851 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 6: That I mean, there is the opportunity for this to 852 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 6: be a pretty interesting tale of never giving up. And 853 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 6: if you have a dream of being able to overcome 854 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 6: something like I want to be a forty four year 855 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 6: old that does this after coming back out of retirement 856 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 6: from X amount of years inactive. I guess that makes sense, 857 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 6: but I just don't want to see the alternative. That's 858 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 6: all like if it all, it's all fun and good. 859 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 6: You know, George Foreman was able to get through the 860 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 6: fights and get to a championship fight and win the 861 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 6: title again at an old ass a. He used to 862 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 6: take so many punches thof I mean, bro, he took 863 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 6: a lot of punches. 864 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 4: I remember him at the end of his career when 865 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 4: you're talking about this, Jonas, you did too, but I 866 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 4: just remember thinking, he took so many. 867 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: Times out of the man. 868 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, they couldn't, but he he caught Mike Mercer or whatever. 869 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 6: Michael Mercer, I believe that. Michael Moore, Michael Moore and 870 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 6: he's from WESBA. It's just for me, I don't want 871 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 6: to see somebody get a hold of Philip Rivers and 872 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 6: he just poof and like just you know, literally just 873 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 6: evaporate away after he gets hit, Like I just don't 874 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 6: want to see that. 875 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: You would know this obviously better than I would, But 876 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: just from watching him, he always seemed like a pretty 877 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: quick release, like he was getting. 878 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: That really quick release. 879 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 4: He knows how to diagnose everything. And look that they've 880 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 4: got Jonathan Taylor to Lena. So you know, for me, 881 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 4: like I think it's a decent setup. They have a 882 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 4: really good offensive line playing indoors right, and he was 883 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 4: already there, so he knows the system to a degree. 884 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 4: He knows the team, maybe even some of the personnel. 885 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 4: So there are some advantages to why he's the guy. 886 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I don't know by the way 887 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: he's all ready because I'll say it right now. If 888 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: he's average, they don't even have to make the playoffs. 889 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: If he's average, he's comeback player of the year. I 890 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: don't want to hear anybody throw any other name out there. 891 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: And as I go and check who the comeback player 892 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: of the year odds are right now, Christian McCaffrey on 893 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: DraftKings is your favorite. 894 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 2: At minus one forty. Yeah, he's carry them. 895 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: Second is Dak Prescott a plus one twenty five, also 896 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: carry this team, And third Philip Rivers at eighteen to one. 897 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: If he's just average, that guy should win Comeback Player 898 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: of the Year in the NFL this year based on 899 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: what he's doing five years off. 900 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 6: He will base his comeback off of or base it 901 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 6: on him reproducing again. 902 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 2: Like what's hold on? I was going to ask you, 903 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 2: I can go to the well. 904 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 4: You always bring this up though you think he was 905 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 4: at home for the five years just miserable and his 906 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 4: waiting for the next. 907 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 6: Say he was miserable, But I'm gonna say, if you're 908 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 6: willing to come back and play after you've been out 909 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 6: as long as he has, as old as he is, 910 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 6: he's looking at the alternative like, Man, I'm coaching, I'm home, 911 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 6: I'm here. It's like I'm herem mob, Hey, that me, Moby, 912 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 6: where are you at? 913 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: Like what? Like bruh? 914 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 6: His house is like a shopping mall, like like seriously, 915 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 6: Like I just I know I get over stimulated and 916 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 6: I'm not anywhere near the amount of kids him or 917 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 6: Sean Alexander have. I'm nowhere near that, And I know 918 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 6: I get overwhelmed, and I'd be like, all right, are 919 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 6: we doing the super Bowl? Like I don't want to 920 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 6: go to the super Bowl, But the only reason why 921 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 6: I want to go to two reasons. See, you guys, 922 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 6: all of us get together and be able to be 923 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 6: in the same place, but I want to get the 924 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 6: hell away from like all of that. From time to time, 925 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 6: I got to get like I'll be sitting up in 926 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 6: there and you actually stop and listen and look at 927 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 6: everything that's going on around you, and you're like, how 928 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 6: the hell did I choose this for myself? Like why 929 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 6: is this where? I? Like, then you start going into 930 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 6: this weird little deal like I used to be somebody 931 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 6: in my life like I used to things used to matter, 932 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 6: and it used to be quiet like and then you 933 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 6: start to look around and then the noise gets louder again, 934 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 6: and then you come back to yourself and it's like, Dad, Dad, 935 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 6: I've been talking to you for five minutes. 936 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: Are you okay? Like, yeah, I'm good. 937 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 6: So if I'm Philip Rivers, I can only imagine that 938 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 6: is multiplied so many times over. 939 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: And he's like, I would love to go into a 940 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: locker room. 941 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 6: I would love to go into a meeting room and 942 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 6: have peace and quiet, look at some film, throw the 943 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 6: ball around, and get away from that. Because when you 944 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 6: got all that, it's a whole lot of shorties. And 945 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 6: I tell you what, when you shorty jump in your ear, 946 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 6: just go grab some hot sauce. 947 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: That don't make everything better, you know what I mean. 948 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 6: If your mouth is full of food, you can't say 949 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 6: the wrong thing and get in trouble. 950 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 2: I found that. 951 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 6: Out myself, So listen if you're going to going to 952 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 6: do that, throw some Louisiana Hot Sauce on. It's only 953 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 6: three simple ingredients and it'll make your plate better of 954 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 6: the turn every day into a tailgate because it's just 955 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 6: got that type of flavor to it, if you know 956 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 6: what I mean. So listen, make sure you get you 957 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 6: some original Louisiana Hot sauce, add a little bit to 958 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 6: your day and make every day a game day. That's 959 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 6: Louisiana Hot Sauce by you Zoom. 960 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,439 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox 961 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Up next, what's our midweek Awards, The good, 962 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly right here on FSR