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Speaker 1: same with Jayden. It's not about who you're playing, it's

426
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Speaker 1: the attributes. Then it's on the coaches seam Paygnon's making

427
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars a year. You know all the Bears

428
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: coaches making a lot, quarterback coach making nine hundred, g's,

429
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Oven's a coordinator probably making two and a half. Obviously,

430
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's making ten million, Cliff's probably making three or four.

431
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: You got to coach these guys up. So it's on

432
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: the coaches who get paid premiums to figure it out.

433
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: But the talent on those three individuals eye popping. And

434
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: if you would have told me that when the preseason started,

435
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: I would have thought, obviously, Caleb has the best physical

436
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: characteristics in terms of arm and throwing on the run,

437
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: Jaden athleticism. I would put bow Knicks right there too,

438
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: movement wise, arm strength, like I would have assumed bo

439
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: Knick's arm looked a lot on a different level than

440
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: those two guys. And I don't see a huge gap.

441
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: When you say, does bo Knicks have a good arm,

442
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: my first reaction is yes, he does. So if I'm

443
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: a Denver Bronco fan, we got rid of the anchor

444
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: that is Russell Wilson, and I would say the drama

445
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: that comes behind that, because, let's face it, there's a lot.

446
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: And as I told Colin, I think what's going to

447
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: be the undoing of the Steelers is the drama in

448
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: that quarterback room because those guys are so famous. There

449
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: was like this famous aura with Russell Wilson that you

450
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: just couldn't shake. And for most of his career it

451
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: was always someone else's fault. Every offensive coordinator Russell Wilson

452
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: has ever had before Sean Payton got fired, every single one,

453
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: all of them, Seattle, all of them fired. Nathaniel Hacket

454
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: year one fire. You can bring up names, Shit, this

455
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: guy's not good enough. Whatever. In my life watching Football

456
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in their prime, sweet quarterbacks, you know

457
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: what happens their assistant coaches they become head coaches. Look

458
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: at Rogers, look at Big Ben obviously Tom Manning. Like

459
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: their guys move up the ladder. Russell's went the other way,

460
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: they always got the finger pointed at them. It was

461
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: their fault. Maybe it wasn't, Maybe it wasn't. Maybe Sean

462
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: Payton was right. And listen, everyone that talked a bunch

463
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: of shit. Last year, when Sean Payton went to him like, hey,

464
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: you want to you want to stick around here, change

465
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: your guarantees, ninety percent of the media freaked out. I

466
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: was like, what what are we talking about? He's asking,

467
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: do you want to change it or not? If not,

468
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna bench you and move on. We're not afraid

469
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: to cut you because our owner's worth fifty billion dollars.

470
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: We don't give a shit. Here are your options. Welcome

471
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: to real life. At one point in time and all

472
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: of our lives were presented with a couple options. Professionally,

473
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: pick one or the other and listen, you live with it.

474
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: And he said, no, okay, see you don't let the

475
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: door hit you. It feels like they are going to

476
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: have such a more symbiotic and like more normal relationship

477
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: because one thing New Orleans always had now Drew Brees

478
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but he's like one of the most normal,

479
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: high character guys in the league. Everyone loved him, got

480
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: along with everyone. I forget the offensive lineman he did

481
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: play by play. I think it was a center for

482
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: the Saints for a little bit. God, I forget his name.

483
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: And he retired like six seven, maybe eight years ago now,

484
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: and he started crying in his retirement speech talking about

485
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. So Sean Payton went from that to Russell,

486
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: and I had defended Russell like the own office and

487
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: all that. It didn't bother me. It's people you can't

488
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: get along with. Teammates don't think you're normal. Part of

489
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: big a quarterback is being able to be relatable. Even

490
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: though you know, Patrick Mahomes he's making ninety million dollars

491
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: on and off the field, it always feels like all

492
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: his teammates like him. I saw on YouTube Tom Brady

493
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: I think started a YouTube page and it's you know, Tom,

494
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's being truly authentic. It's not

495
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: about the content. It was just cool, like flying private

496
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: jets on these uh sweet yachts and who knows where.

497
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: It's just like kind of an insight in Tom's life.

498
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: It's like, God, this guy's living good in the back

499
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: of like sweet limos that it rolls Royces like this

500
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: guy's living like a you know, he's like one of

501
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: the kings or princes somewhere. You know, it's it's it

502
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: was cool insight. He has been so rich now for

503
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: so long, yet everybody till his last day in Tampa

504
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: was like, couldn't be any cooler, couldn't be any more normal.

505
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: That's why I like I defend Caleb Williams in terms

506
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: of the way his teammates talk about him. Didn't like

507
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: the painted nails, saying fuck you Utah, Like that's that's

508
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: slappy behavior. But usually with that you're like, god, do

509
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: the teammate thing. He's kind of a weirdo. It's like

510
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: you watch The Hard Knocks, seems like everyone likes him.

511
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: If everyone likes you, give yourself a shot. Rock Purdy

512
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: pretty polarizing player. You know who loves them? I'll tell

513
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: you Fred Warner, Trent Williams, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle kind

514
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: of matters. You know why Trey Lance got wally pipped

515
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye. Teammates didn't believe in him,

516
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: and they liked the guy. So when they don't like

517
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: you and then they don't believe in you, I think

518
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's got a major problem on their hands. And I

519
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: think Denver is just kind of got kind of got

520
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: out of a bad breakup dating someone new, and it's like, God,

521
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: life's pretty easy. I don't have to force things. Just

522
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: like conversation goes, go out to dinner, not screaming at

523
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: each other. It's like this, this is smooth, this is easy.

524
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: We've all experienced that in one relationship to another relationship

525
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: like this is way easier than that used to be.

526
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, because that was a toxic relationship. That's

527
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: not healthy, that's not not normal, that's not conducive to success.

528
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: And bo Nick Champagne's gonna work. Got news for you. Yeah,

529
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't really know who's debating that. And I'm not

530
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: saying they're gonna make the playoffs this year, though, not

531
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: the craziest thing, because you go around the league, you

532
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: got like there's some weird quarterback situations. Rogers is forty.

533
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: What if he can't really move this year? Deshaun Watson

534
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: makes like eight hundred million dollars, what if he kind

535
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: of sucks? Joe Burrow, what if he can't stay healthy?

536
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: You know where I stood on the Chargers bet, which

537
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: I did love three weeks ago, don't love it as

538
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: much anymore. You know why their entire team always gets

539
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: injured and they're pretty dependent on a couple guys on

540
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: defense that are always hurt Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa,

541
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: who's literally hurt right now. And their quarterbacks has been

542
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: in a boot. So part of like good vibes, you know,

543
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: it's an overused term on the internet, like just vibe.

544
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Positive vibes do matter. That doesn't mean you don't have

545
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: to work hard. That doesn't mean there are certain things

546
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: no matter what you're doing, that boxes you don't have

547
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: to check. But like being optimistic and being excited is

548
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: pretty healthy. Look at the Chiefs, you know what, They've

549
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of just good vibes. Winning brings that

550
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: for sure. It's hard to have good vibes when you're losing.

551
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: You don't meet many like broke people that are smiling

552
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: all the time. Like I get it. I'm not acting

553
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: like they can go six and ten or six and eleven.

554
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a bunch of good vibes. But you

555
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: remove Russell Wilson, that was just a giant pain in

556
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: their ass, not debatable to bow Nicks, who's just like

557
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: this young, hungry guy who's pretty talented, and if all

558
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: things are equal, same amount of money, I could have

559
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: this guy for a million or this guy for a

560
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: million in twenty twenty four, Is there one general manager

561
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: that today, including the Steelers, that would take Russell Wilson

562
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: over bow Nicks. Seeing the guy play a real NFL

563
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: game got news for you. There isn't. The Steelers would

564
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson for bow Knicks yesterday, So sometimes things

565
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: just work out. They took a lot of shit for

566
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: that too. Everyone's like, oh, they're gonna take bow Nicks.

567
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be crazy, you take bow Nicks. It's

568
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: like I told Colin this Kenny Pickett, the Steelers drafted

569
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: twentieth overall, he's not very talented. Mac Jones not very talented. Historically,

570
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: guys like bow Knicks don't go where he went. But

571
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: then you watch him play and you go, well, he's

572
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: actually pretty talented. Like he has physical skills, the movement,

573
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: the size, the arm strength, like he has first round characteristics.

574
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: The mac Jones, the Kenny Picketts. I just use those

575
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: two guys' examples because one guy went fifteen and one

576
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: guy went twenty, and they don't check any of the

577
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: first round characteristics. Like Listen, obviously he shouldn't have gone

578
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: as far as he did in the draft board. But

579
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: like Brock, Purty doesn't have that many tangible first round

580
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: character Some of his stuff's intangible read a defense, get

581
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: rid of the ball fast. Those guys typically go in

582
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: the later rounds. Doesn't mean you can't strike oil with him.

583
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, Rock Purty. Not every guy needs

584
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: to go in the first round, but when you do

585
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: draft a first round quarterback, you better fucking be right,

586
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: because you're wrong. The forty nine ers got very, very

587
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: lucky with the Tray Lance situation. Did They drafted Rock

588
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Purty with the last pick in the draft, and he

589
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: became a good player. Because I'm watching the Raiders Cowboys,

590
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: which not gonna lie tough watch, the Raiders have a

591
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: question at quarterback, clearly. I mean both the guys seem

592
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: pretty average to me. But Trey Lance failed in the

593
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: NFL and he's currently failing in the NFL. Not because

594
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't try, not because guys don't like him. He

595
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: just doesn't have the capability to like throw change ups.

596
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: Everything's really fast. He can't slow himself down. Anyone who's

597
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: ever play golf, it's easy on the driving range to

598
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: be like slow it down, nice and smooth, and then

599
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: you get on the course all of a sudden, muscle

600
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: memory starts kicking in and you can't help it. You're

601
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: spraying it right left. You're like, what the hell's going on?

602
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Because you're a little more amped up. It's no different

603
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: than playing quarterback. You gotta slow it down. And you

604
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: watch Trey Lance. Everything's quick, everything's so fast. Fields is

605
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: like the better version of him. It's like, take a

606
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: deep breath, man, just relax a little bit. And they can't.

607
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: It's not because they're not trying. They're not attentive in meetings,

608
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: good guys like it's such a hard position to play. Obviously,

609
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: if you don't try, none of the effort, you got

610
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: no chance. But when you struggle to do a couple

611
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: things in the NFL accurately hit basic routes where you

612
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: can't throw a fastball and stay in the pocket, like,

613
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of Russell Wilson's undoing of his career. Can't

614
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: play from the pocket, doesn't want does not want to

615
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: constantly scrambles around. Earlier in his career when he was

616
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: a great athlete, thrived at that because he had these

617
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: great physical skills. Those don't exist anymore at thirty five

618
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: like they did at twenty six years old. Caleb actually

619
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson in his prime in Seattle right now.

620
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: That's the way he plays. If something's not there right away,

621
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: he kind of moves around, scrambles around and makes great

622
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: plays and defenders have a hard time catching him because

623
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: he's like twenty one twenty two years old, in the

624
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: prime of his just movement skills and obviously has a

625
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: huge arm. But part of why Russell Wilson in the

626
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: prime of his career couldn't quite be on the level

627
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: like the Brady Man could. He couldn't dominate within the

628
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: pocket consistently. And to me, Kayleb Williams is a good example,

629
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: like for him to become the superstar like Patrick Mahomes, Well,

630
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes can dominate from him within the pocket, and

631
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: he did early in his career. And I'm not putting

632
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: that pressure. If Caleb Williams just plays like he's playing

633
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: right right now, that could get the Bear's nine ten wins.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of ad libbing, a lot

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Speaker 1: of wild plays. But for him to consistently be what

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Speaker 1: he has the capability of being with his physical attributes,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to balance that with playing in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: And on third and nine, I can't scramble around if

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Speaker 1: something's there, I gotta sit in that extra second and

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Speaker 1: throw that dirt and hit the guy on for nine

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Speaker 1: yards on third and eight. And that, to me, he's

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Speaker 1: on the coaches to get it out of him. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, with fields and sometimes certain guys may

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Speaker 1: he may never have that capability if he just becomes

645
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, become a Hall of Famer, the prime version,

646
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Speaker 1: not this version. That's what's so fascinating about quarterback play now.

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's on display every single

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Speaker 1: game you watch, even with the backups movement skills, is

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Speaker 1: a big deal. The day and age of just Eli Manning,

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, the Drew Bledsoe's all the quarterbacks I grew

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Speaker 1: up on beside, like Steve Young and like Michael Vick.

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Speaker 1: The statue in the pocket he's kind of dead. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there aren't even that many left in the NFL. Jared

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00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: Goff Obviously, I would say Matt Stafford at this age.

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Speaker 1: I think Rogers is gonna be that this year. But

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Speaker 1: most of these guys, when you go through the top quarterbacks,

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00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: Mahomes can move, Josh Allen can move, Burrow went healthy

658
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: is I'm not comparing the Lamar Jackson movement wise, but

659
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Speaker 1: like Montana can move around, no problem obviously, Lamar Kyler,

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Party can move, Dak can move. Cousins is

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Speaker 1: somewhat of a dinosaur that way. Can only play within

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Speaker 1: the pocket, but if you dominate within the pocket, you

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Speaker 1: can succeed. Look at Drew Brees's career. He wasn't very tall.

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Speaker 1: So it's just my favorite subject to talk about. Well,

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Speaker 1: two coaches and quarterbacks watching the highlights of Kevin Burkhardt,

666
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: who's just cool dude. He came on this podcast couple

667
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: years ago and I have to hit him up with

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Speaker 1: the text get him back on before the season or

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Speaker 1: maybe during the season. And Tom Brady doing their kind

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Speaker 1: of warm up games. They're gonna be a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Just usually with broadcast crews, no one cares like it

672
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: just does not matter. You could just put anyone on.

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00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: We learned with Monday Night Football, that's not true. I

674
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: need a little pizzazz, right, That's why John Madden, John

675
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Speaker 1: Gruden like, I need a little star power. ESPN fucked

676
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Speaker 1: it up for a minute and then they got Troy

677
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: Aikman Joe Buck feels normal again. But most games on Sunday,

678
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: like the game handles the broadcast. I know all my

679
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: buddies constantly bash most of the broadcasters. The Brady Burkhart

680
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: thing was specifically Tom. I mean, we've seen Kevin called

681
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, a couple of years ago. I

682
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Speaker 1: think maybe they got it this year. Is that I

683
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Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna go because you watch the

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Speaker 1: YouTube thing of Tom like in Paris with his kids loose.

685
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Speaker 1: But I is at the guy that Bill and Gronk

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: and Julian getting no chance. I'm very fascinated on how

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Speaker 1: he's gonna bounce it because when Tom's being a guy,

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Speaker 1: no human has ever met Tom that doesn't like him.

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Speaker 1: He feels like the most relatable, famous, rich guy like

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Speaker 1: the history of America. Most of my favorite athletes or

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Speaker 1: biggest athletes in my life least relatable humans alive. Michael

692
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Speaker 1: Jordan not at all, Tiger Woods, no chance, Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 1: People can stand them, right, I mean, these guys struggle,

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Speaker 1: which kind of makes sense. How do they have anything

695
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: common with anybody? Guys don't even go to the store,

696
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: they don't even fill their own gas. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: relate to just even successful people when you're just living

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Speaker 1: in a completely different world. Yet Tom could balance that

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Speaker 1: with his coaches, with his assistant coaches, with his teammates,

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Speaker 1: with the equipment guy who's great at it. And if

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Speaker 1: you get that guy, it's impossible to not be a

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Speaker 1: good broadcaster because his fame. He obviously is well spoken,

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Speaker 1: but that relatability, it's what made John Madden a rock star.

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Speaker 1: Even John Gruden had this kind of entertainment aspect to him,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know. I'm fascinated. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady guy. I'm glad he did it. I think

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Speaker 1: we're all better off for him attempting this. And it

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Speaker 1: showed the clip that I saw tonight on the Fox broadcast.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't actually like on the air, they were just

710
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: doing their he's laughing and joking. If he's loose man,

711
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: he could be really, really good and I know this

712
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Speaker 1: that Week one Cleveland Dallas game would get a lot

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Speaker 1: of people watching no matter what. I bet they get

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Speaker 1: a twenty percent bump. I bet it's the highest rated

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Speaker 1: Week one afternoonslock game in the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: Because the intrigue of like, we're just gonna hang out

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Speaker 1: with Tom for three hours, it's what makes the Mannings

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Speaker 1: like just work. It's like, wait, I just get to

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Speaker 1: hang out with Peyton and Eli. You're just telling me

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Speaker 1: paidon Eli hanging out and I just get to watch

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Speaker 1: the game with him, even though the actual game is

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Speaker 1: going on another channels. Why they get a couple million

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00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: people just to watch that broadcast. It's yeah, it's come

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Speaker 1: hang out with Peyton and Eli, bullshit about the game.

725
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: And if Tom and those guys are just kind of

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Speaker 1: loose and having a good time, now their job's a

727
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: little different, right, They're not calling every individual play, so

728
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing. But if he can kind

729
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Speaker 1: of strike that balance of like just being a guy's

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Speaker 1: guy and then giving his knowledge and giving his relatability,

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Speaker 1: there's a skill that is obviously unique to him given

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Speaker 1: his stature. I think it's going to be a major success.

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Speaker 1: The volume,