1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Joel Anderson from The Ringer. The Ringer Tailgate is the 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: podcast he's on. He writes for The Ringer. I spoke 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: to Billy Gill yesterday. I would like Billy Gill to 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: call in during this segment. Perhaps Joel can make that 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: happen because he doesn't respond to my text or my 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: phone calls. But Joel Anderson is back for his second 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: appearance here odd still got to company. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: How are you, Joel? 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm good man, Billy and I enemies man. Billy's not 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: going to do anything that I asked him to do, so. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: We got it didn't take long. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: I mean he's I mean, he's incorrigible and he I 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: mean the thing, well, the thing is is that he's 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: like a critic. He comes in and he's got all 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: these opinions. In all fairness, hee us our producer, okay, 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: but he got all these opinions. And I'm like, well 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: you just got here. We've been rolling since August. You 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: got all these opinions in November, you know, but you. 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: Know, yes, yes? So really is that what you tell him? 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: Like? 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Slow down belly? 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: Well, actually I don't say it like that, but I 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: am I probably not as respectful to him as somebody 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: who is theoretically in charge of me. 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: Do you guys have a hat beef? 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: Well, it's not really a hat beef per se. So 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: I wore a hat on camera one day because my 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: hair wouldn't cut and I'm kind of in the same 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: situation right now. 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 5: And it was a. 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: Rockets cap that I like, but I just not broken 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: it in, and so the brim was a little weird. 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: It was kind of like at like this kind of angle, 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: and everybody in the check kept talking about it, and 35 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: I was like, and because it was a sore spot 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: for me, I don't know how hats are supposed to work. 37 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 5: You know. 38 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: I've always had good hair, you know what I mean, 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: So I don't have to wear a hat. So I 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: put the. 41 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 5: In the middle of the stream. 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: I turned the hat around, okay, because it was really 43 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: getting to me, like they were getting at by confidence, 44 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: and so I turned the hat around and it became 45 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: a whole thing. And then Billy comes on and he's 46 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: he's got a million hats, all of them special in 47 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: a certain way or whatever, and so everybody, you know, 48 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: he kept he kept going talking about my hat and 49 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: my brim and everything, and I'm like, well, what take 50 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: your hat off? 51 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 5: Then Billy Lit's see which. 52 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: Right, Joel, That's what he loves to do, destroy your confidence. 53 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: That's simper, you know. 54 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm just yeah, I'm like, I'm on I'm 55 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: on camera. I'm talking like, don't annoy me, don't talk 56 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: to me about how I look right now. I did 57 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: the best that I could. I didn't show up on 58 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 3: camera intending to look this way. 59 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Listen, when you tell Billy not to do something, he's 60 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: going to do it more. 61 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm learning this. This is something I'm learning gradually. 62 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel, does it make you happy or sad that 63 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: we've arrived in a place where the CEO of Crumble 64 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Cookie is impact in college football? 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: Man? 66 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: You know it's funny to me because I thought the 67 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: stupidest coaching move of the cycle was firing James Franklin. 68 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 5: Really, I really did. I thought it was so dumb. 69 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: I thought that. 70 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: First of all, there used to be a time like 71 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: if you go look up somebody like uh Don James 72 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: at Washington or like you know mcneeland in West Virginia, 73 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: they would go like three whole. 74 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: Years of going six and five. 75 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, there'd be stuff like that, right, 76 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: And I understand the college football has changed things are 77 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: different expectations as such, and also teams rig up their 78 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: schedules so that doesn't happen anymore, But I mean, man, 79 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: it was a three game stretch that got James Franklin fired, right, 80 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: And if you're going to fire a guy who has 81 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: been that good of a coach for you, that has 82 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: recruited as well for you as they have, you should 83 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: reasonably have somebody in mind that you think that you 84 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: can actually get. Like I just kind of assumed if 85 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: you're making that move, that you had somebody in mind. 86 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: And evidently either Penn State didn't have somebody in mind, 87 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: or they pissed off somebody if you believed my colleague 88 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: Todd McShay that they pissed off Jimmy Sexon in such 89 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: a way that he's just like, well, I'm not going 90 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: to send guys to Penn State. I'm gonna make it 91 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: hard for them to get a coach. Well, so I 92 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: just I guess the thing is is that I'm I'm 93 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: newly learning every every year, every month that these guys 94 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: are just not as smart as I think they are. 95 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: That there's just not as much planning. There's just not 96 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: as much planning. 97 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Or care of these athletic departments and programs as I 98 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: think that they are, because I just there's just no 99 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: way that it occurred to me that, like, Okay, Penn 100 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: State they fired James Franklin. They were so fed up 101 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: with him, so disappointed they had to get his ass 102 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: out of there. And now here we are, you know, 103 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: we're gonna We're in December, and Penn State got that 104 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: much of a head start and they still don't have 105 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: a guy, right, And so I just like I just 106 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: thought that, I think that's stupid. And I think that if, 107 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: like right now, if Penn State said, hey, we got 108 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: this coach man. He he was in the playoffs last year, 109 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: a throw into the end zone away from going to 110 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: the National Championship game. He's got a winning record, doesn't lose, really, 111 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: you lose games he's supposed to lose. His name is 112 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: James Franklin. Penn State will be ben, that's a great coach. 113 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: We should get that guy in, right, Like if they 114 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: ended up with James Franklin, now it would seem cool, right, 115 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: But they just they moved on and they don't have 116 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: a plan, and so well, you know, I think they 117 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: kind of deserve the situation they're in. 118 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Uh, If given the opportunity to hire James Franklin again, 119 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: do you think Penn State would take it? 120 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: I think we'll see. 121 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: The thing is, I don't know what kind They seem 122 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: to have a lot of pride there right in a 123 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: way that is kind of weird because I mean, again, 124 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: I've been talking about this Penn State stuff all year, 125 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: and it's like a nest of them. 126 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: There's still big Joe pap people, you know what I mean. 127 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's a weird fucking place. 128 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 5: It's a weird place. 129 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: And so I'm just like, okay, like you guys are 130 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: still holding onto that. There are people out there that 131 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: were arguing with me and I can't tell if they 132 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: were bots or not. They were like, we don't have 133 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: proof that Jerry Sandusky did that, and I'm like, okay, 134 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: y'all into some different shit, Like I really didn't even 135 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 136 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: They're bots and unfortunately real people as well in real people. 137 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm so like, I don't know, so anyway, 138 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: and I don't want to impugne the integrity and character 139 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: of the good PID State folks, because I know that 140 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: they're out there, but uh, I I don't know what 141 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: kind of pride they've got. I think that they think 142 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: that they're better than that. I think that they think 143 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: that they're Ohio State. So it still may be like 144 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: maybe there's still somebody out there, but anybody than anybody 145 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: other than James Franklin. And maybe that person is Bob Chesney, 146 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. 147 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: But Joel's changing so quickly, So I understand why Penn 148 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: State would think we can get rid of James Franklin 149 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: and just hire any coach, because who wouldn't want to 150 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: come to Penn State? But in twenty twenty six, the 151 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: BYU coach doesn't want to come there. 152 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 5: You know, who wouldn't want to come to Penn State. 153 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I'm gonna be fair because I've not 154 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: been to State College. I've been to parts of Pennsylvania before, 155 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: I've not been to that part. But they call that 156 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: part of Pennsylvania PENNSYLTUCKI. 157 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mac Woods. 158 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 159 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: James Carville, the legendary Democratic consultant, the guy who used 160 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: to work for Clinton, said that it was Alabama without 161 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: blacks like that part of Pennsylvania. Okay, he said it 162 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: that way too, he said blacks Okay, So there are 163 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: a lot of people that wouldn't want to go to 164 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: a place like that. Evidence about the fact that James 165 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: Franklin basically transported his entire class that he recruited to 166 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: penn State and took it to Virginia Tech. Okay, they're 167 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: just god, don't care at Blacksburg State College, Pennsylvania whatever. 168 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: It's all the same thing to those kids. Apparently, so 169 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: they don't They were not aware that some people think 170 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: that that is a place that I don't necessarily have 171 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: to go to. It's not Athens, Georgia, it's not Austin, 172 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: it's not even Baton Rouge. Some people don't want to 173 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: go there, and so they were not Apparently they were 174 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: not aware of this. Maybe they're becoming aware of it, 175 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: right and they're learning in real time that oh no, 176 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: this is a harder sell than we thought it was. 177 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 178 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: What will the committee do Joel if Duke wins the 179 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: ACC championship? Man man, I mean you all want this 180 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: to happen, right, We want Manny Diaz to keep the 181 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: canes up. 182 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: So wait, So okay, I was gonna So I'm trying 183 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: to get a sense for because there's some people that 184 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: are outraged that Miami, like people like Bruce Feldman is 185 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: losing his mind. 186 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 5: Bruce Feldman's cursing on Twitter. 187 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: Yes, that's him losing his mind. You're right, Bruce Feldman cursing. 188 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: Is him losing his mind. 189 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: I've never heard him curse. 190 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: I never heard him curse. It's a very nice, even tempered. 191 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: Dude, no doubt. 192 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: Every every time Bruce Feldman talks, I feel like he 193 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: has to remind you where he went to school. 194 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: He went to Miami. You can't spell Bruce Feldman without 195 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: the US. 196 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Put it on the pole tailor. Can you spell Bruce 197 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Feldman without the can you you? 198 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. 199 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: I am in favor of chaos, and I wouldn't mind 200 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: James Madison getting a shot at this thing because I've 201 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: always just sort of been of the mind that, Okay, 202 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: if we're going to have a FBS and all we're 203 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: gonna have one hundred and thirty SEI teams, why are 204 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: you telling all these other teams that they never have 205 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: a chance to play for the playoffs? 206 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean. 207 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: Like it's like with like make them, make them fcs. 208 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 5: Then if you're if you're in a Mountain West or 209 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 5: whatever and they're telling. 210 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: You you have to go perfect, But also some other 211 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: shit has to happen, like other teams gotta you know, 212 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: they gotta, they gotta lose in such a way that 213 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: we really think that when they don't deserve it, so 214 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: we'll elevate you. So if it's gonna be like that, 215 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: then like fine, like just make them fcs. 216 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: But if not, I want to see the. 217 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: James Madisons get a shot at it, right And and 218 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: also like I kind of want the a CEC to 219 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: take it on the champ because this is stupid, like 220 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: they just like they need to come up with anything 221 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: that ends up with them having Duke and the confer 222 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: whatever the system is. They've got to change it can't 223 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: it can't be this. 224 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: They should not allow this to happen. 225 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: I want Duke in the playoffs. 226 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: I think it'd be great, ID do you You would 227 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 5: not watch that? 228 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: No? 229 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't watch it. But I'm not watching Miami either, 230 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: And that's a. 231 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: Good fair enough, fair enough so that they the thing 232 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: and I'm going to I know this is I'm not 233 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: me on your contrarian. Man, Miami though, they're like one 234 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: of the few teams like let's say they got to 235 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: be the tenth seed or whatever. Man, they actually have 236 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: a chance to win a national championship like they would. 237 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Actually they have a good roster they have, they have 238 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: a chance to compete. And I kind of like that idea, right, 239 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: But you know, you know, if Miami. 240 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Team in the playoff that has a chance of winning 241 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: it all, of course. 242 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the committee should be doing it. 243 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: They should be doing Yes, I thought that's kind of 244 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: what this was all about. But you know what, to 245 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: your points to Miami fans been wearing my ass out 246 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: this year. So if they get if they, if they 247 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: if they if they have to suffer a little bit, 248 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: then I'm okay with it. 249 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, now I'm thinking about it because 250 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: if they get in, they will shut up, and if 251 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: they don't, it's gonna get louder. And so now maybe 252 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: perhaps we should all root for them to get in 253 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: just to shut them up. 254 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: No, no, don't you, but don't you think that's funny? 255 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: Like I feel like, do you remember you remember the 256 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: NFC championship game where the Rams committed that grievous pass 257 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: interference and the Saints fans We'll. 258 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: Go no, that's crazy. 259 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: And I just thought that sh it was so funny. 260 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm glad I wasn't a SATs fan, but 261 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: I'm just like, so, this, this injustice is being done 262 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: to my this injustice is being done to Miami. 263 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: I'm using quotes fingers for people that are listening. 264 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: To this, and I just think it's funny that that's 265 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: so bad about it. I'm like, all right, well, you 266 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: lost two games. I'm sorry, Yeah, you lost two games. 267 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: I mean the thing is is like, yeah, it's in 268 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: a perfect world, the head to head would matter. 269 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: You lost two games. You lost the little villain SMU. 270 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 5: So I don't I. 271 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: Don't have a lot of sympathy for you, but I 272 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: think it's funny that you all are mad like this. 273 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: What did you make of old miss moving up a 274 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: spot without Layne Kiffin? 275 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: Which interesting? 276 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, with that peak, that Pete Golden bump, that's what 277 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: it is. They gotta they gotta, they gotta look at 278 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: Pete Goldman. I'm like that dude lyric like he says 279 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: about football you know Whatlaane is like doing hot yoga 280 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: and stuff. 281 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: It's like Pete Golden. He clearly is doing nothing but 282 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 5: grind and. 283 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: Tape, you know, So maybe that's what they think, that 284 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: this is a serious outfit. 285 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I don't know. I don't you know. 286 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: I think the committee takes a lot of shots, so 287 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to take another one at them. I 288 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: don't think any of that. It's just I'm trying not 289 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: to not take any of it seriously until Sunday, right, 290 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, all right, we'll have everything in place. 291 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: Then you'll have all the data in front of you, 292 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: because I just like, I just don't arguing each individual 293 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: decision and how you end up with Texas over Vanderbilt. 294 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: I understand Texas b Vanderbilt. Texas has three losses and 295 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: lost to Florida, right, and look bad against and look 296 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: bad against UTUB right. So I'm like, just again, so 297 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: I don't know all the ways that this goes into that, 298 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: but like I just I just figured I'm like, maybe 299 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: we should just wait until Sunday and then I'll if 300 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: I have to be really really mad, I'll save it 301 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: up for them. 302 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: Joe, what did you think about Wayne Kiffin letting his 303 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 4: OC Charlie Weis Junior come back to Old Miss, and 304 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: then he releases a statement and that guy he's trying 305 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: to be like the good guy, and Old Miss fans 306 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: are like, dude, we still hate you. 307 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: They won't let me coach, but I'll let him coach. 308 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 5: Who's the whole? Now? Who's the whole? Now? You know 309 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Right? No? No, but I mean good 310 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: for him. I don't know. 311 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: You know. The thing is, I'm sure that in the 312 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: middle of that decision, and he was so mad at 313 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: Old Miss and he's like, I can't believe you guys 314 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: are not gonna let me coach, even though I'm going 315 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: to be the LSU coach. He's so mad, and then 316 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: he has some time to think about it, and maybe 317 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: there's a part of him somewhere that he was just like, man, 318 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: if those kids do well, it still reflects pretty well 319 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: on me. And also he gets like LSU was gonna 320 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: start paying his bonuses if Old Miss went, so it's like, well, 321 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: you know what, I do have some money on the 322 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: line right now, so. 323 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Just keep his coaches there. 324 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: It's like, well, you know what, you know now? I 325 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 5: got a little money on the line. Charlie. 326 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: You know you're not doing nothing over here, no way, 327 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: So why don't you go ahead, will I'll help with 328 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: the roster over here. You go help them out and 329 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: then we'll see you. At the end of December. 330 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: You wrote an article for The Ringer on Lane Kifvin 331 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: leaving LSU. 332 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts there? 333 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm conflicted, man, because I don't like Laton 334 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: Kiffin and like just the character of the way he 335 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: carries himself. Yeah, Like, I just that's that person is 336 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: not appealing to me. But I can understand how you 337 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: can have every intention of the world of living up 338 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: to everything you said you were going to do. Like 339 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: I came to Old Miss, I built this program up. 340 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: They got some point that they've never been at before. 341 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: But man, this great job open right down the street. 342 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: They're going to give me everything I want. It's gonna 343 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: be easier for me to do the things that I 344 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: want to do. And I don't really have a lot 345 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: of time to make the decision, Like there's just no 346 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: right timeline. 347 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: And so I was. 348 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: Sympathetic with the idea that he was in a tough 349 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: decision he had to make a very tough decision and 350 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: wanted to have his cake and eat it too. 351 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: So I get that, but. 352 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: I also think that, like this is kind of like 353 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin's whole thing is like I leave. 354 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: When I leave, you're in bad shape, Like you're gonna 355 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: be Like some. 356 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: People break up with their partners and they can figure 357 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: out like a mature way to do it. 358 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: They're just like, look, this doesn't work for me. 359 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: Like you're a great girl, great guy, whatever, but it's 360 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: just not gonna work out. Lane is just like you know, 361 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: you you come home, his shit's all moved out, he 362 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: moved across town. 363 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: He's like, I don't want to tell you, but you know, 364 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: I kind of have. 365 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: I don't think this is working out. You know, that's Lane. 366 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: Like Lane is just a messy person, dude. You know, 367 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: I'm certain you could ask the people in his life. 368 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: And if you're on the internet right now, oh boy, 369 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: if you're on the internet and the stuff they said 370 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: about Lane kidf it is crazy. Man, It's crazy. This 371 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: is I don't know how much of it's true, how 372 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: much of it's true that's not just look on Twitter 373 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: and go through that stuff. 374 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of people out there. 375 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: That don't like him, don't like the way he gets down, 376 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: and so he's just going to leave. This is the 377 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: second time he's left time with people yelling at him. 378 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: Okay, though, like he sinks into it. 379 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: He loves it, like he is a figurehead for what 380 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: college football is in twenty twenty six. 381 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: Don't you think it makes him lock in because it's 382 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: like he got the LSU and he was like, well shit, man, like. 383 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 5: This is actually kind of cool. Like it was just 384 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: like it was like ooh, I got kind of got 385 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: excite by them yelling at me. 386 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: Man. 387 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: You know, listen, We've gotten to know Lane a lot, 388 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: Dan and I over the years because he coached at FAU. 389 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: He was on with us a bunch we used to 390 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: make in front of them about tearing up the blue 391 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Martini you Boca ratone. 392 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: Lane was hanging out there everything. 393 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean yeah. 394 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: But Lane Kiffin's got some ego, man, and he don't 395 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: give a shit what anyone thinks about him. 396 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: That's the thing, you know. 397 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's been his whole Yeah, that's his whole life. Man. 398 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Like it's just like it it's no professional life at least. 399 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: It just seems like I'm going to do what I 400 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: think is right. You know what I think is going 401 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: to work out, And like, because I'm good at my 402 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: job and because I'm in demand, people are just going 403 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: to kind of have to deal with it, man, And 404 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: in some ways I can't respect it. In some ways, 405 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: I'm just like, well, you know what, He's going to 406 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: be him, right, And the thing is people fool themselves 407 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: into believing that Lane is going to be something else, 408 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: but Lane is going to be him fundamentally. 409 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: George, that was going to be my follow up question. 410 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: Almost are you surprised at the reaction from Old Miss 411 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: fans because when you get Lane Kiffin you kind of 412 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: know what you're getting when when you do get him. 413 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: But I guess he was there six years, so you 414 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: kind of become disillusioned with it. 415 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: He had turned down Auburn a few years prior, right, 416 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: And I think Old Miss deluded themselves into believing because well, look, 417 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: I mean they're looking around like Kirk Signetti state in Indiana, 418 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: Clarkly's staying at Vandy, Kenny Dillingham staying in Arizona State, 419 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: so they're probably Matt Rules staying in Nebraska, and they're 420 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: probably thinking, well, a lot of people are saying that 421 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: you can win and do well at all these programs. 422 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: He's built something up here. We really care about him, 423 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: Like why would he go to LSU. Also, it hurt 424 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 3: that they probably looked at LSU. They're like, look, Lincoln 425 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: do whatever he wants over here. Bro, you know what 426 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. We don't say nothing about what he does 427 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: in the streets. We got you know, he's a great coach, 428 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: Like he's got this thing rolling and he just you know, 429 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: has his family. His family is invested in his community 430 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 3: and everything. And look at LSU, man, they're so crazy. 431 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 3: The governor is involved in this. They don't really had 432 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: like you know, they don't really have an ad. 433 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: Everybody that they've had they don't like or they have 434 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: to leave. 435 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: Like the thing that LSU people talk about is like, well, 436 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: even Les Miles and Coach Ho won championships there. They 437 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: fired those people so obviously, like winning a championship only 438 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: matters so much of LSU, Like there's more to it 439 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: than that, right, And so I just think that they 440 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: probably thought that's a mess. He's got it the way 441 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 3: he wants it over here. We've shown that he can do, 442 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 3: he can win here and win big over here. Why 443 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: would he go over here? But the thing is about 444 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: old miss. And again you learned this from the Internet 445 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 3: and interacting with their fans. They're just sort of delusional 446 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: about what's going on over there, man, about who they 447 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: are and their. 448 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: Place in the world. And like, you're still old miss. 449 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: Like you're good, old miss, You're better old miss than 450 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: you've ever been before in your life. 451 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: You're still old miss. Though. 452 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: If Alabama, Okay, this is the real question here. If 453 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Alabama loses to Georgia, they get blown out SEC championship game, 454 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: and Alabama gets rid of Kaylin debor cool Kiff and 455 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: take the Alabama jup, I don't know. 456 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: But man, because. 457 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: Will be calling on his behalf, I guarantee you well, 458 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: it just. 459 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: Be like, yeah, he has he signed that contract yet, 460 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 3: I guess depends how has he signed. 461 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: The contract yet? That ain't dry yet. That's what we 462 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 5: need to know. 463 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: But the one thing I would say that that works 464 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: against Alabama is apparently Elaine did not like Tuscaloosa. 465 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: Have you been to tuscal looser? So? Have you? 466 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: No? 467 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: No? 468 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: I have think. 469 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: If you're in college, I guess it's probably pretty cool. 470 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Well, if you're in college, you don't care, man, you 471 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: just need a bar. 472 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you need a bar. Maybe that's maybe that's 473 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 5: Lane Steeves. 474 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm in I'm in a football of facility 475 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: the all day and when I want to blow off 476 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: some steam, everybody take care of me. But it seemed 477 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: like he ain't liked tuscalusive from the last time. He 478 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: had some complaints about it and people got tired of 479 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: that ship. So and uh but yeah, I mean, no, 480 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, I also don't think I mean, 481 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: as much as his lame stick is only for certain places, 482 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't think other people gonna they're not gonna suck 483 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: around with that, that goofy shit man, Like they don't, they. 484 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 5: Don't want that. 485 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: Kaitlyn is about as straight you, straight laced and buttoned 486 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: up and serious as it could be, and already like 487 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: he's week the week over there. 488 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: So I went to Tuscaloosa for Georgia at Alabama last 489 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: year and I had a lot of fun. But I 490 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: think that's different than being like, hey, Monday through Friday, 491 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 4: you gotta wake up here too. 492 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 3: That's the thing, man, bro, like that you have to 493 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: live there. And you have family. Maybe maybe you have 494 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: a wife, maybe you have a girlfriend, whatever, you maybe 495 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: got several girlfriends. Yeah you don't. And yeah, you gotta 496 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: live in that place like you gotta go to the 497 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: grocery store. 498 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Man. 499 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: So my old coach, Dennis Franchione, you remember Dennis FRANCIONI, 500 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: he built up he built up TCU, man, like we 501 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: beat USC and Carson Palmer and the Sun Bowl. And 502 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: Dennis Franconi was, you know, in hot demand. He recruited 503 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: well he didn't he actually he didn't not recruit Ladanian, 504 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: but he made him, you know, he helped him to 505 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: develop and be the great player that he was. He 506 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: took that job at Alabama and he didn't do bad. 507 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 5: He had a ten win. 508 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 3: Season then and he was there. Man, he was just like, 509 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: I don't know, Doug, I don't know. And he went 510 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: to Texas A and M. That's a tough place, man. 511 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: Them people are them people are rabid. I mean that's 512 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: why they're great. It's a hard place to live, man. 513 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: And you're again, you were a week to week there, 514 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: like Nick Saban was perfect for that place. But you 515 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: were a week to week there. I don't that didn't 516 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: seem like a lot of fun to me. 517 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I think Penn State would have an easier job hiring 518 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: a coach if the coach. 519 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: You could just fly in for the weekends and get 520 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: the hell out. 521 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, yes, it's just like you kind of do. 522 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: I've tried to remember what they said when Creek Keith 523 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: Oberman was at ESPN. They were just like he he 524 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 3: like lived in New York, but would come into Bristol or. 525 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: Something like that. 526 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: So that's kind of like that what you got to 527 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 5: do with Penn State, you know what I'm saying. 528 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, man, I'm I got a spot 529 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: in Philly. 530 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: You know, it's fine. Maybe Pittsburgh, you know, it's not horrible, but. 531 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and if I come in, I got 532 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: a private jet and I come in. 533 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 5: And do what I need to do and I go home. 534 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: Right, But you're so right they had the guy who 535 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: was okay living there. 536 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you got it, dude. 537 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: Like if you find somebody that likes the place and 538 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: he wins, like, stick with it, man, that's the thing. 539 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: Don't run those people off. 540 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: So the thing I'm the most confused about with the 541 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: Lane kiff In situation still Juice Kiff and the dog? 542 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: Was it his dog or not? 543 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 5: Man? That's the see man, that's another a good question. 544 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: You gotta fight, you gotta you gotta get on, you 545 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: gotta get in on Twitter streets, Taylor, because I mean, 546 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: that's that's up for there's a lot of them Twitter 547 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: streets because there's a lot of debaters the weather, not 548 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: that's actually that man's dog? Some look and I don't 549 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: want to there's a dispute as to whether not that 550 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: actually his dog. Let's see if he's is Juice tweeted 551 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: from Baton Rouge. 552 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 5: Yet No, okay, no, no, I mean. 553 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: Juice loves Happy Valley. 554 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, I mean there's a lot of 555 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 3: space to run. I'm sure, like I'm sure it's a 556 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: very you know, a lot of a lot of ground 557 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: to cover there. 558 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: What's amazing about college football right now, for me at least, 559 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: is the the two programs with what seems like the 560 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: most stability is Ohio State and fucking Indiana. 561 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: What's a weird world. 562 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: Man, I know, man, Indiana's so strange. But you know 563 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: this is weird because I've heard you talk about like Wisconsin, 564 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: for instance, right, like what's like, what's the deal with Wisconsin? 565 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 5: Yo? Them? Right? 566 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: But like Indiana, Like I always was like I've never 567 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: been there, but I've seen pictures of the campus and 568 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: it seems like it's nice. And I'm like, what's why 569 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: are they not good? I was like, why are they? 570 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: Like it's not that they were not good at football, 571 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: but they were so bad? 572 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: Why are they historically bad? 573 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like yeah, they're like one of the worst 574 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: P four schools traditionally ever. And I'm like, why is 575 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: it so bad? And it looks nice? And I'm like 576 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: if kids would go to Nebraska, like what's the you 577 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like I don't right, right, why 578 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: not Indiana? 579 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: What's the big deal? Right? And so like that makes sense? 580 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: And yeah the Ohio. 581 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: State thing, man, Like I was actually thinking about this 582 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: after they beg Michigan. I was like, oh yo, Ohio state' 583 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: is a standard now? They are? They are the standard 584 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 3: in college football for yeah, right, Like it's just like 585 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: they they recruit great, they develop great, they can get 586 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: into any home. Ryan Day appears to be I mean, 587 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: he appears to be what his record says he is, 588 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: which is a great coach, right right, And so yeah, man, Like, 589 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Ohio State is what Bama was and what 590 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: Georgia was a couple of years ago. Like, that's that 591 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: is Ohio State right now. The Indiana of it all 592 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: is crazy. But I also think Indiana has kind of 593 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: benefited from the schedule of these past couple of years. 594 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: When their schedule flips up and they got to start 595 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: playing Michigan again or they got to play Ohio State 596 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: in regular season or whatever, that schedule gets a little 597 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: bit tougher. I think the things will change a little bit. 598 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, I man, give Signetti his props. Man, they 599 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: look they look really good too. That's the thing. I 600 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: just I just did not know that they could get 601 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: guys like that there. But then I'm like, why wait, 602 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: why haven't they been able to get the occasional guy? 603 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 5: Right? 604 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, teams are buying their way in now. You 605 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: have you know, crumble cookies ceo. The more things change, 606 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: the more they stay the same. Alabama Georgia SEC Championship Game. 607 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: I believe GEORGIEA is two and a half point favorite 608 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: on fandel. 609 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: Who do you like in this game? 610 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 5: Georgia? 611 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: Uh, First of all, I don't want to see that like, 612 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: this is the least interested in an Alabama Georgia game 613 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: that I've ever been. I'm tired of this. I don't 614 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: want the Alabama should not have to keep beating Georgia. 615 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: Okay, it's enough they actually do to get into the play. 616 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I just like I'm like, bro, like that's 617 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: why I was excited about A and M, I know whatever, 618 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: like having a chance at it. But yeah, like I 619 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: think that Georgia has been playing back. I feel like 620 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 3: Alabama has been kind of getting away with it, Like 621 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: they really all year not really figured out how to 622 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: establish the run. They got a solid defense or whatever, 623 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: but they just don't while Georgia looks like it's rounding 624 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: in the form and that defenses is looking like a 625 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: little bit more vintage how they have Like gunn of 626 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: Stockton was in hell last week, but I think I 627 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: don't think that's who he is. Nate Frasier is a 628 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: really good running back. Georgia seems like they figured out 629 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 3: how to get some get yards on the ground and 630 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: they can impose their will on teams in a way 631 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: that they weren't early in the year. So and then again, man, 632 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 3: it's hard to be the good team twice. 633 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: It just really is. That's why I don't think Alabama's 634 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 5: have to do it again. 635 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: Yep, Joel Anderson is with us ring Your tailgate is 636 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: a show. 637 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 2: The guys are gonna play a game with you. 638 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna ask you which teams could win a national championship. 639 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I only think there's three or four of them. But 640 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: let's let's go to Mikeya here. Mike Ye get us started. 641 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 6: All right, you just talked about him. Can Alabama win 642 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 6: a national title? 643 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: No? 644 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all right. 645 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 5: No, that's what I said earlier. 646 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just trying to figure out how many teams 647 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: should be in this actual playoffs. 648 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: You go ahead, mikey A. 649 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 6: Okay, you already said Miami could can notre Dan. 650 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, okay, we're gonna get left out. 651 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 5: I didn't know that he could, Yeah, Texas A and 652 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: m No. 653 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: Wow, Well hold on, I just I'm down on Marcell Reid. 654 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: I don't think Marcel read there were people the heusman. 655 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 656 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 5: Man, I'm just like I've seen that dude play. I'm like, I'm. 657 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: Still not sure he can pass, you know what I mean. Like, 658 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm just like, if he has to pass South Carolina. 659 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: That shit works. It's a great team. I don't know 660 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: about it. 661 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: So, okay, can Oregon win a national title? 662 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 663 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's three teams that right now, he has 664 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: three teams that could win a national title too, currently 665 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: aren't in the playoffs? 666 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Can Texas Tech? Whoa man? 667 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 5: Man? 668 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: The thing the thing is is like, if you're asking 669 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 3: me if they can win a national championship, can they 670 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: beat Ohio State? 671 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: Nah? 672 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 5: Not with that offense. 673 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: The defense, The defense gives them a chance. It would 674 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: be a good game, but that offense, I just I 675 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: don't see it. 676 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 6: Having I assume Ohio State, Indiana, those are easy. I 677 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: assume whoever those eleven twelve seeds, those are easy. 678 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: So let's just go to the last one. 679 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 5: Can all miss no? No? 680 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: If even was there, could all miss. 681 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 5: No? 682 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Okay, no, So it's Ohio State. What are the teams 683 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: that can win it? 684 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 5: So I'll say Oregon. What was the other one? Notre Dana, 685 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: Notre Dame, Miami? 686 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: Right, this is ridiculous what we're doing. 687 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: Miami's really good, man. You look at that roster. I'm like, 688 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: why can't they right? 689 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: Right? 690 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. If Miami played. 691 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Notre dame in the Pop Tart Bowl, Okay, and they 692 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: put the Pop Tart Bowl. 693 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: Against the National Championship Game. 694 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: Would Miami noted game have more interest and get better ratings? 695 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 5: Man, that would be it. 696 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: I would at a minimum, it would be in my 697 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: multi view, will be in the multivib I got to 698 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: check that out though. 699 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: Joe I was workshopping a take yesterday with Chris Whittingham 700 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: where Mario Chris Paull his problems aren't against the good teams, 701 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: his problems are against uh, the these lesser teams. Would 702 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: you feel better about Miami if they were playing Georgia 703 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: than if they had to play like Jmu? 704 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: I mean you see no, because they will I mean 705 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: no disrespect to JMU. 706 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: They would just they would. They would hurt JMU man. 707 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: I mean the thing is, it's kind of like when 708 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: TCU made it to play against Georgia in the National 709 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Championship Game. Like I'd always said, I don't ever want 710 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: us to play against Georgia. Like I was like, really 711 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: like one of my nightmares. I was like, we should 712 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: never have to play against Georgia. Bro, Like I want 713 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: to be able to lie and say that I think 714 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: we can beat them, but I don't want to actually 715 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: see it. 716 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: That's jmu versus Miami brom. Miami would drag them boys 717 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: up and down the field, man, Ruben Bank, Ruben Bank 718 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 5: be living in that backfield. That's not we don't we 719 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 5: don't want to see that. 720 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: No, Miami doesn't want Louisville in the playoff. 721 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, they don't want Louisville or s 722 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: m U in like late October. 723 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 724 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: You know, they don't have a big game ahead of 725 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: them for a couple of weeks, that cruising through the 726 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: ACC and their board. 727 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: Yes. 728 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: So I think my problems too is yesterday I said 729 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: Duke Today with Joel, I try to push it by 730 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: saying jam you, I know what you did. 731 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: Then they could lose the Duke because they see Duke 732 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: on the schedule and they're just like man, all right. 733 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: So so would they prefer to play Duke or Georgia. 734 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: Oh you don't want to see across the sideline? 735 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they would be locked in for Georgia 736 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: the way Yeah no, man, yeah, they would. 737 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: Be like Nanny would be locked in for Miami. 738 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: Man, that being that Miami, that Manny grudge man that 739 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: Manny grudge. Yeah, man, they I mean that still would 740 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: be a good game. Yes, I think that. I think 741 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: I think Duke, I just I don't. Yeah, because the 742 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: thing is, no matter what, if you go to Miami, 743 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: you end up playing football for Miami. 744 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 5: You wearing that uniform and you look at Duke and 745 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 5: you're like, that's duke. Though, like I got I got 746 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: a scholarship to Miami to play at Miami. You're a duke. 747 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 5: There's a reason for that. 748 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: And then then they start playing and not taking that 749 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: ship seriously, and then look what happens, you know. 750 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: And then Chris the ball gets at the end of it, 751 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: Crety makes a mistake because he's nervous because many dz 752 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: is stared at him. 753 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: Bro. 754 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: Look that that Miami Notre Dame game was insane. Again, 755 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: I probably brought this up the last time because I like, 756 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: at the end of that game, Mario thought it made 757 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: sense to kick a field goal, like to settle for 758 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: a field goal at the end of that game, like 759 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: it was, it didn't make any system. I'm like, don't 760 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: you want to try to get the ball further down 761 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: the field? Dog to try to get to the end 762 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: zone and he settled for a field goal and they won. 763 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: But I was just like that, that didn't make a 764 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: lot of sense to me. 765 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Listen, we love you, We appreciate you doing this for 766 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: us your second time here. Take it easy on Billy. 767 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: That's like, I'm not no, it's friendly advice. Okay, don't 768 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: want you for the rest of your life. I mean, 769 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: I have no choice now. He's he's locked in. He's 770 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: he's taking that. 771 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 5: I'm not. But I'm not gonna make it easy for him. 772 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 5: But I appreciate you giving, you know, looking out for me. Stude. 773 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: All right, ring your tailgate is the show. Check him 774 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: out there. He writes for the Ringer as well, Joel Anderson, 775 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: friend of the show. We appreciate you coming on sir anytime. 776 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 5: Man, just hit me up.