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Speaker 1: one of the prominent cities of Pride parades is having

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Speaker 1: trouble finding sponsors. Oh, that is such a shame. We'll

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Speaker 1: this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is jobob. Together,

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Speaker 1: we are charging the course of America's cultural comeback. Thanks

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Speaker 1: get to any of those crazy stories, how about this

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Speaker 1: crazy story? Now, I like to think of Part of

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Speaker 1: our panel for today with us today is Hannah Faulkner,

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Speaker 1: host of The Hannah Fawkner Show, and Mason Moossom, a

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Speaker 1: Guys. You know this is a wild story and also

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Speaker 1: for that wonderfully obvious insight. Hannah. You're obviously much closer

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Speaker 2: Of the whole situation are these you know, Palestine pro Palestine,

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Speaker 1: White House Correspondent. You know, we've seen some pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's wild. Hey Mason, there's actually we're just

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely no, Joe, Bob. We're ruled by theater kids, man,

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Speaker 1: for one of the biggest pride festivals in the world

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Speaker 1: finding sponsors for an event that's like still two months away.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's devastating, but maybe it's a wake up

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Speaker 2: call to the woke, radical leftist communist Democrats, whatever you

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Speaker 2: want to call them, that are losing voters losing supporters

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Speaker 2: every single day. I mean, you guys saw what happened

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Speaker 2: with bud Light losing billions of dollars in stocks because

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Speaker 2: they did not reach the right audience. They understand that

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Speaker 2: putting a man Dylan mulvany who thinks he's a woman

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Speaker 2: and is in whatever day of girlhood that he is just.

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Speaker 8: Mocking women on the internet isn't going to.

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Speaker 2: Match the redneck racers and those want to go camping

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Speaker 2: at drink their bud Light here.

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Speaker 8: It's not going to match them.

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Speaker 2: And so I think these people have completely lost touch

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Speaker 2: with the American people. And these companies are waking up

453
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Speaker 2: that they're DEI holising hiring policies. They're not working, and

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Speaker 2: they're not they're not getting in touch with the American people.

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Speaker 2: So it's exciting to see things like this finally start

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Speaker 2: to happen, especially with someone one of the most degenerate

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Speaker 2: pride parades in this country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of people who might be doing too much

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Speaker 1: DEI hiring whoever hired the lady to paint the portrait

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Speaker 1: of President Trump and the Colorado State Capitol. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've seen this picture, but let's let's pull

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Speaker 1: this picture up right now. This this is a photo

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Speaker 1: that looks like Shane Gillis dressed as President Trump. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure who thought that was like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: an accurate rendering. But it has been taken down in

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Speaker 1: the Colorado Capitol. It's been up for six years in

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Speaker 1: their Hall of Presidents. Mason. What what was going on

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Speaker 1: here when somebody was like, yeah, this is a good painting,

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Speaker 1: let's put this up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 9: I thought Trump's response on on Twitter was hilarious, where

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Speaker 9: He's like, this is disgraceful.

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Speaker 3: It is. It is disgraceful. It does not look anything

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Speaker 3: like him. I love what you said. It looks like

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Speaker 3: Shane Gillis, you know, pretending to be Trump. Yeah. Absolutely

476
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Speaker 3: needs to come down asap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good news. It has been brought down from the Capital.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans and the the state Assembly and Senate there

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Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, this this, this needs to go. This

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Speaker 1: is not not an accurate representation of the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States. So good good, we won one. We

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Speaker 1: got that painting down. Hannah Faukner, Mason Mussa, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Really appreciate you running through the

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Speaker 1: headlines with us today. We'd love to have you back soon.

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Speaker 3: God bless thank you, Joe, Bob.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up next here on Turning Point tonight.

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Speaker 1: A clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast Don't Go Away.

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Speaker 1: It will be a rare back.

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Speaker 12: What is the real story about the lobsters at Red Lobster.

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Speaker 13: They invested millions of dollars into trying to farm lobster

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Speaker 13: in East Asia and it didn't work. And then what

492
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Speaker 13: they did was they actually bought into the supply chain.

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Speaker 13: So they actually started buying a lot of the seafood

494
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Speaker 13: distributors so that they could vertically integrate. They've got operations

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Speaker 13: overseas tie Union that they're importing a lot of their seafood.

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Speaker 13: So a lot of the lobster is the main or

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Speaker 13: New England lobster, but then a lot of the lobster

498
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Speaker 13: is also like slipper lobster or rock lobster, warmwater lobster

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Speaker 13: that's brought in from overseas. If you want to eat

500
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Speaker 13: real lobster, you got to eat man lobster. Oh, and

501
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Speaker 13: that's lobster with the claws on. Okay, it's easy to differentiate.

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Speaker 12: Now, there's a great place that I love. Anytime, every

503
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Speaker 12: single time I'm in New York City, I have to

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Speaker 12: go to Chelsea Market and there is a there's a

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Speaker 12: lobster place in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, do you know what it's like the lobster pot.

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Speaker 12: Or it might be like the Lobster Palace or the lot.

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Speaker 12: It might be the Lobster Market or something like that.

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Speaker 12: And you get, you know, a little like paper boat,

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Speaker 12: and they give you the lobster with the clawson and

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Speaker 12: I will sit there and I will eat one. And

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Speaker 12: I look forward to every trip. Every time i'm I'm there,

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Speaker 12: I have to go there. It's my place.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And that's great because that's the main Lobster fishery

516
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Speaker 13: is the most iconic fishery in the United States, and

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Speaker 13: it is the prime example of how fishermen can manage

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Speaker 13: their own resources as opposed to like a shadow government. Right,

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Speaker 13: so when the government comes in and says, here's all

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Speaker 13: the standards, here's your catch quota, and like you know

521
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Speaker 13: you're fined if you do X, Y and Z. The

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Speaker 13: fishermen are thinking, we're the guys out on the ocean.

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Speaker 13: We're the ones taking care of the environment. We don't

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Speaker 13: need this random guy sitting in an office in Washington,

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Speaker 13: d C. To tell us what to do based on

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Speaker 13: some number he put into a spreadsheet. We need it

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Speaker 13: is inherent in our job to make sure that the

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Speaker 13: stock that we're fishing is sustainable for our future generations,

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Speaker 13: so that our kids have jobs and they can take

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Speaker 13: the fishing boat out. So why would we overfish our

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Speaker 13: own stocks? And what's cool about the main lobster fishery

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Speaker 13: is like the fishermen have all these little mechanisms by which, like,

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Speaker 13: for example, they'll pull a lobster out that maybe has

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Speaker 13: eggs or that's too small, they'll put a notch in

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Speaker 13: the tail so that other fishermen know if they pull

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Speaker 13: that same lobster and they see a notch in a tail,

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Speaker 13: throw it back. That's not a government tool, a government

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Speaker 13: control piece. Those are the fishermen themselves. So it's kind

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Speaker 13: of this public versus private property approach where if we

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Speaker 13: as citizens can manage our resources better than an a

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Speaker 13: Priori or kind of a shadowy government.

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Speaker 12: Would you eat crawfish?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd eat crawfish out of Louisiana. I mean US crawfish,

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Speaker 13: not Chinese crawfish.

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Speaker 12: Red Lobster is struggling, like they're closing restaurants.

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Speaker 13: Left and right.

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Speaker 12: So if you were to all of a sudden overnight

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Speaker 12: inherit Red Lobster and take it over and say, okay,

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Speaker 12: I've got one shot to revive this chain.

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Speaker 11: What would you do?

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Speaker 13: That is a great question when I think about a lot, actually,

552
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Speaker 13: mainly because the first thing I would do is I

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Speaker 13: would hire Jesse Kelly on as the CEO of Red Lobster.

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Speaker 12: Jesse Kelly from Texas, the commentator.

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Speaker 13: Jesse Kelly from the first ye because all he does

556
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Speaker 13: is talk about red Lobster. He says it's the most.

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't know.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah. So like if you right now went online

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Speaker 13: and type red lobster, what's the first thought that came

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Speaker 13: to mind? I guarantee you your comments section would be

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Speaker 13: Jesse Kelly hilarious.

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Speaker 7: People do not appreciate red Lobster. It's thought of as

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Speaker 7: some kind of I don't know why. I don't know why.

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Speaker 7: It's not thought of where it should be as the

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Speaker 7: pinnacle of American cuisine.

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Speaker 6: Look, it's hard trying not to get choked up. Red Lobster,

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Speaker 6: you know, the premier seafood restaurant in the United States

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Speaker 6: of America. They're filing for bankruptcy Chapter eleven bankruptcy. So

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Speaker 6: it hurts to see this happen to an American institution

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Speaker 6: like this. I don't know how I personally will go on,

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Speaker 6: but I will try.

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Speaker 7: Red Lobster has been the peak of American seafood forever,

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Speaker 7: and I am legit upset about it.

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Speaker 6: Red Lobster, They're not only out of bankruptcy, they're out

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Speaker 6: of bankruptcy with the brand new CEO.

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Speaker 14: If you're one of the people who very rudely email

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Speaker 14: b hahaha Jess and your favorite restaurants.

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Speaker 15: Going down, well eat your words now, and you know what,

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Speaker 15: I have something else to say. If you're one of

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Speaker 15: the people who mocked Red Lobster to me, you don't

581
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Speaker 15: get to eat there ever again.

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Speaker 14: You are banned from Red Lobster.

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Speaker 11: Me.

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Speaker 14: Well, that's where you'll find me this Friday, like.

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Speaker 13: All the time. And it's hilarious too, because he'll be like,

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Speaker 13: I took my wife out to the finest restaurant in

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Speaker 13: the United States, and it's like a picture of the

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Speaker 13: two of them at Red Lobster.

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Speaker 12: Yes, okay, so you're putting him as the spokesguy in

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Speaker 12: the commercials, and he's very funny in dynamics, so he

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Speaker 12: would pop off the screen.

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Speaker 13: Literally pop off, because he's like he's like seven foot eleven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Then the next thing that I would do is that

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Speaker 13: I would connect with five or ten local fish or

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Speaker 13: docks around the United States, and I would say, we

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Speaker 13: are exclusively serving these five or six US species for

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Speaker 13: the next six months. Right, I'd call it the Summer

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Speaker 13: of Sustainability, and I would tell the story about those

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Speaker 13: fish and that's that's the fish on the menu. Then

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Speaker 13: I would say we are only serving main lobster. I

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Speaker 13: would make sure that we had like main lobstermen in

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Speaker 13: pictures of the main lobster.

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Speaker 12: Like you're getting rid of the biscuits or what.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 13: No, I would keep the biscuits. I would keep the biscuits,

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Speaker 13: but I would use beef talo. I wouldn't use the

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Speaker 13: I'm pretty sure that they use palm or palm oil

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Speaker 13: or soybean oil. So I'd redo that recipe. I would

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Speaker 13: switch all the fryers to tallow only this is a dream,

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Speaker 13: and I would do like fried clams New England clambellys.

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Speaker 13: I would do fried clam rolls, lobster rolls. I would

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Speaker 13: create a menu that was like five dollars to fifteen

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Speaker 13: dollars where you can go in and get a fried

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Speaker 13: clam roll and a basket of like tallow fries. Right,

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Speaker 13: so now we can bring in more people so they

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Speaker 13: can eat good food that's approachable, and make it all American,

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Speaker 13: like feature the fishermen because right now, I know for

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Speaker 13: a fact probably shouldn't say too much, but a significant

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Speaker 13: amount of red lobsters. See food is important.

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Speaker 12: Oh well, I'm not surprised about that. I grew up

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Speaker 12: in Indiana, okay, and like so it was like a

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Speaker 12: big deal Christmas Eve. I mean, you were fine dining

624
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Speaker 12: if you were going to like Longhorn or rud Lost.

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Speaker 12: That's how I grew up. And then anytime I go

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Speaker 12: back and visit my mom or my family's it's like

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Speaker 12: the same type of thing. And now I'm like trying

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Speaker 12: to introduce them, like let's go to Sweet Green.

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Speaker 6: Have you heard of?

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Speaker 11: It?

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Speaker 12: Is like I'm trying to like introduce my family to

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Speaker 12: other things. It's it's been very interesting.

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Speaker 13: So we know Indiana very well. We opened three restaurants there. Oh,

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Speaker 13: we're telling what We were in Indianapolis proper. And then

635
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Speaker 13: we were up in Carmel. Is it still there, just

636
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Speaker 13: north Yes, Slapfish So our original concept was called Slapfish, yes, okay,

637
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Speaker 13: and it was our best market in the United States.

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Speaker 12: Why do you think that is? Because we're just we're

639
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 12: starved there for real food, let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: But also there's the learning curve business sharp. We tried

642
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Speaker 13: opening in gosh, we were in DC, Maryland, Virginia West Coast,

643
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Speaker 13: like la we at one point we started as a

644
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Speaker 13: food truck. We grew to like thirty five forty locations

645
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Speaker 13: over a six or s in your period, Laurena and

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Speaker 13: I and then and we were franchising. So we're in

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Speaker 13: all these different states. Best market Indiana because when you

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Speaker 13: taught them about good food and I told these stories

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Speaker 13: of sustainability, they wanted.

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Speaker 12: That because they're also this is you're talking about largely

651
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Speaker 12: blue collar families who understand small farms, you know, and

652
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Speaker 12: like all that kind of stuff, and like what makes

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Speaker 12: America run, you know, And so I think they probably

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Speaker 12: are really bought into that story.

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Speaker 13: They were, and that's the thing is they were willing

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Speaker 13: to try something new.

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Speaker 12: Let's make Indiana healthy again. This will be my new mission.

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Speaker 5: I love this.

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Speaker 12: Are you concerned about bird flu and raw milk? And

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Speaker 12: is raw milk being unfairly targeted about bird flu?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 13: It's of course it's being unfairly targeted. There's absolutely nothing

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Speaker 13: to be worried about when it comes to raw milk

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Speaker 13: and bird flu transferring human to human or whatever however

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Speaker 13: you want to kind of fearmonger. It also what we're

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Speaker 13: seeing in regards to bird flu in general. We got

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Speaker 13: to remember they killed millions and millions and millions of birds,

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Speaker 13: healthy birds, in order to avoid any theoretical spread of

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Speaker 13: bird flu.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, which was weird to me, very weird. My theory

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Speaker 12: here is like they're trying to spread this bird flu stuff.

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Speaker 12: I don't even think it's necessarily to get us to

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Speaker 12: not drink raw milk. I think they're trying to be

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Speaker 12: able to come out with some new vaccine for the poultry. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: of course, I think that's what this is about. I

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Speaker 12: don't think it's about like they hate that we like

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Speaker 12: raw milk, which they do, but I don't think they

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Speaker 12: care that much about it.

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Speaker 13: And I agree with you the vaccine could be a

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Speaker 13: potential takeaway, right, But I don't even look at the

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Speaker 13: government as being that well organized to be able to

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Speaker 13: have a specific goal. I think they have many goals

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Speaker 13: and they throw spaghetti at the wall. So it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 13: we're going to fear monger. We're going to create this

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Speaker 13: horrible situation all in the name of safety. Sounds familiar, right,

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Speaker 13: So there's this bird flu that's spreading and some of

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Speaker 13: the people that are within the organization that are like

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Speaker 13: look out for this. They might be well intended, good

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Speaker 13: scientists and people who are doing the research, and there

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Speaker 13: might be a theoretical small, small, small percentage chance risk,

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Speaker 13: but doesn't matter. Those people their job is to find

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Speaker 13: any risk.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 13: So instead of looking at it as a whole and saying, okay, well, look,

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Speaker 13: no reason to panic. We've seen this before. All we

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Speaker 13: need to do is X, Y and Z. Let's do that.

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Speaker 13: Then they're like, okay, well we kill all the birds, right,

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Speaker 13: Egg prices go up, Okay, not a bad thing. Trump's

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Speaker 13: coming in. We can blame that on him, and we

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Speaker 13: can blame raw milk.

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Speaker 12: They already are and it's for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 13: And it's like, oh, and we can blame it on

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Speaker 13: raw milk. Theoretically, not a bad thing. We've been trying

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Speaker 13: to do that anyway. Oh and a new vaccine, not

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Speaker 13: a bad thing, because look where we're getting all of

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Speaker 13: our money. Oh and people eat less eggs, which is

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Speaker 13: something we've been pushing for anyway, So now they have

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Speaker 13: to move to plant based meat. Not a bad thing,

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Speaker 13: you see. So they're like, oh, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 13: That's a good thing. It's almost like they don't even

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Speaker 13: know exactly what they're looking for, but by virtue of

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Speaker 13: the fear, it's casting a white net. You're gonna have

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Speaker 13: some takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. We're together, we're charting

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Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. This is my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of the show. Or we get to respond and

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Speaker 1: to some of your emails that you sent TPT at

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Speaker 1: TVUSA dot com and some of the comments that you

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Speaker 1: left on the videos and watch some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that you've sent us, which is awful and hilarious. At

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Speaker 1: the same time. These are a couple comments from the

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Speaker 1: conversation yesterday we had with Brandon Tatum talking about Canada

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Speaker 1: and whether or not the US would best them in

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Speaker 1: a war. A bunch of the people said, just send

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Speaker 1: the country boys up there with a couple of fifths

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Speaker 1: of jack and it's all done. That's hard to argue with.

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Speaker 1: The words Canada and war together make me chuckle. And

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Speaker 1: then this one from a longtime friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: Ryan said, bro North, Michigan could take over Canada with

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Speaker 1: a minimal amount of support. And then somebody responded to

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Speaker 1: that comment said, Sutton Bay, Michigan here, locked and loaded.

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Speaker 1: Let's go get us some maple syrup. So again, we

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Speaker 1: don't want to go to war with Canada. However, if

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Speaker 1: is Joid Reid stated it were to happen on fortunately,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't even be close. That's yeah, that should go

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Speaker 1: without saying. So again, you can email the show anytime

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Speaker 1: you want tpt at tpusa dot com. Whether your email

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Speaker 1: agrees with us or is wrong, or it's abhorrent and

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Speaker 1: terrible or sarcastic and snarky, chances are that gives it

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Speaker 1: a better shot of getting on the show. Now, this

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00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: was sent to us from Matt And you know, I

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Speaker 1: would like to apologize for any eye bleeding or blindness

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Speaker 1: that suddenly happens when you watch this video, So maybe

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Speaker 1: turn don't turn off your TVs. This is hilarious and

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Speaker 1: you just have to watch it and ask with me,

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Speaker 1: what in the Democrat Party is this? Check it out.

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Speaker 16: What happens when you combine soccer and dancing. It's called

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Speaker 16: disco foot.

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Speaker 5: Here's everything you need to know. Disco foot is both

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Speaker 5: a soccer match and a dance performance.

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Speaker 16: It combines the basic rules of soccer, but has one

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Speaker 16: rather important difference. Dancing is required.

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Speaker 5: At all times. Continuous dance improvisation follows a soccer ball,

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Speaker 5: but also gives merit to what is referred to as

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Speaker 5: the battle, which plays a vital role in winning the game.

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Speaker 16: The sport was created on April thirteenth, twenty sixteenth, and

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Speaker 16: conceptualized for the Ballet de Lorraine, a French contemporary dance company,

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Speaker 16: by Peter Jacobson and Thomas Cayley, two dancers and choreographers

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Speaker 16: who have collaborated with.

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Speaker 5: One another since the nineties.

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Speaker 16: A twenty eighteen TV special called disco Foot, written and

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Speaker 16: directed by Jacobson and Kaylee highlights the performance match.

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Speaker 5: For all to enjoy.

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Speaker 16: Each match features one referee and three artistic judges. The

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Speaker 16: judges assess the teams on their artistic merit, scoring them twice,

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Speaker 16: first at halftime and then again at the end of

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Speaker 16: the match. These scores are combined with any goals scored

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Speaker 16: to determine the winning team.

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Speaker 5: Remarkably, a team.

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Speaker 16: Can win by excelling in dance even if they haven't

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Speaker 16: scored any goals.

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Speaker 5: A standout feature to discofoot is its inclusivity.

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Speaker 16: All genders are welcome on the field and self expression

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Speaker 16: is wholeheartedly encouraged. As the Valets de Lorraine puts it,

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Speaker 16: this match doesn't have time for the usual hyper masculinity

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Speaker 16: attributed to football.

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Speaker 5: We're just too busy dancing. Would you play disco foot?

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Speaker 1: No? No, I would not at all. What I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I were to play, though, wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: just have one guy like just go around and score

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Speaker 1: the ball as many times as humanly possible while the

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Speaker 1: rest of the team dances. Supposedly, you can lose without

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Speaker 1: scoring any goals if your dance skills are up to par.

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Speaker 1: But just from the rules basis, you just have one

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Speaker 1: guy just go keep scoring and everybody else dances. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine you would lose that many dancing points. What

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Speaker 1: am I talking about? I don't want to play this.

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Speaker 1: I don't some of the stuff that you send us

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Speaker 1: the simul account tpt at tpusa dot com is gross

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Speaker 1: and disgusting. It also kind of hilarious to watch. I

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Speaker 1: also like the it is known for its inclusivity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: except for minorities.

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Speaker 10: I don't you notice no black people playing disco foot,

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Speaker 10: And if they were, the dancing would be probably elevated

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Speaker 10: to a level that those weird European libs.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't be able to best. So yeah, no, well we

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Speaker 1: will not be playing disco foot. Here's another thing they

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Speaker 1: got sent to us in the email again DBT ATPUSA

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Speaker 1: dot com. I thought, this is actually fascinating and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be the judge and the arbiter of whether

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Speaker 1: or not these are accurate. This is a video compilation

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Speaker 1: of what AI depicts to be the average man, varying

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Speaker 1: by state. We're gonna do one word answers here, yes

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Speaker 1: or no? Is this accurate? Let's go and play this

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Speaker 1: clip and I'll be talking over it to give you

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Speaker 1: my assessment of whether or not this AI generation is

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Speaker 1: accurate and accurately depicts the stereotypes. Check this out clip too.

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Speaker 13: The most stereotypical man in each state, according to.

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Speaker 1: AI stereotypical Ohio, Oklahoma, hmmm, yes, one hundred percent. Yes,

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Speaker 1: dude picking flowers. I'm gonna say yes on that one. Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Yes, one hundred percent. South Carolina, Yes, grilling

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Speaker 1: it up. I'm huh no on South Dakota, Tennessee absolutely,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Texas. I don't know if I agree

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Speaker 1: with that one. Utah, Yeah, kinda vermon one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Go look at Bernie Sanders is in the video. Virginia

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. DC money over there. Washington State, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty accurate. These are all pretty accurate. West Virginia about yeah, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: I could see that. Wyoming, this is uh. I guess

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna be Charlie Kirk and I

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Speaker 1: are gonna be in Wyoming next month. I believe the

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, April twenty fourth, if you're in the Laramie area.

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Speaker 1: But I guess Wyoming. I gotta get more acquainted with

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Speaker 1: the good folks from Wyoming, because that was the only

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Speaker 1: one I was like, I don't I guess I don't

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Speaker 1: really know what the stereotypical Wyoming it looks like. Having

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Speaker 1: said that, pretty accurate. All of those pretty accurate. AI

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Speaker 1: pretty accurate on what stereotypes are of men in different states.

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Speaker 1: So that'll do it with us here at Turning Points Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is going to take us out and then

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Speaker 1: he's gonna air his show entirely again, so stick around

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Speaker 1: and watch that again. The email is tpt at TPUSA

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Speaker 1: dot com. We can also give you dates to all

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Speaker 1: of the upcoming tour events with Charlie Kirk as well

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Speaker 1: as myself. Next month is gonna be a great time.

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Speaker 1: Until then, we'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place,

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Speaker 1: God bless America.

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Speaker 17: Yesterday there was some breaking news happening while we were

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Speaker 17: on the show. We decided not to cover it because

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Speaker 17: we wanted to get all the facts. There was a

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Speaker 17: group chat that was formed over the last weekend, and

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Speaker 17: we're going to go through all of the facts related

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Speaker 17: to this story and give you our analysis. The analysis

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Speaker 17: that has the media in an uproar. So here are

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Speaker 17: the facts. As you know, over the weekend, President Donald

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Speaker 17: Trump authorized a series of targeted military strikes against the Hutis.

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Speaker 1: The Uties were.

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Speaker 17: Firing upon US vessels. Now, we must be very clear

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Speaker 17: that it is a quagmire on the southern tip of

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Speaker 17: the Arabian Peninsula.

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Speaker 13: This is in Yemen.

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Speaker 17: The Huties are in Yemen, which is on the western

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Speaker 17: part of the southern tip of the Arabian Peninsul, right

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Speaker 17: near Oman and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia for years has

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Speaker 17: been very invested in this Huti civil war. It's been

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Speaker 17: disrupting global trade. Many Americans do not even know that

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Speaker 17: there's a country called Yemen, let alone that we should

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Speaker 17: be involved in the Yemenese civil war. President Donald Trump

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Speaker 17: made a decision to authorize American military strikes. Now, regardless

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Speaker 17: of whether or not you agree or disagree with that,

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Speaker 17: that's actually not the core element at play here. Once

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Speaker 17: this decision was well underway, there was a group chat

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Speaker 17: that was started on a messaging application called Signal. Now

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Speaker 17: I use Signal quite a lot, and I'm sure many

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Speaker 17: of you do as well. It's a secure messaging application

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Speaker 17: where you're able to have messages that automatically delete after

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Speaker 17: an hour, a day, a week, or a month. In

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Speaker 17: this group chat was Vice President Jade Vance, Pete Haigseth,

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Speaker 17: John Ratcliffe, Susie Wiles, Steven Miller, and many others. Now,

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Speaker 17: let's just begin by saying there were no non government

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Speaker 17: officials on these group chats. That's a good first start.

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Speaker 17: There was not people that were not supposed to ness

873
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Speaker 17: necessarily be informed of what is going on, well until

874
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Speaker 17: something got leaked. So I'm going to read this entire

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Speaker 17: group conversation and this group chat conversation that I'm going

876
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Speaker 17: to tell you exactly how on earth we have been

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Speaker 17: led to have a window into these private discussions. Jade

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Speaker 17: Vance writes at first, at Pete Hegseth, if you think

879
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Speaker 17: we should do it, let's go. I just hate bailing

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Speaker 17: Europe out again. Let's make sure our messaging is tight here,

881
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Speaker 17: and if there are things we can do upfront to

882
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Speaker 17: minimize risk to Saudy oil facilities, we should do it.

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Speaker 17: Pete Hegseth replies VP, I fully share your loathing of

884
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Speaker 17: European free loading. It's all caps pathetic, but Mike is correct.

885
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Speaker 17: We are the only ones on the planet on our

886
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Speaker 17: side of the ledger who can do this. Nobody else

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Speaker 17: can come even close. The question is timing. I feel

888
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Speaker 17: like now is a good time as any given POTUS

889
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Speaker 17: directive to reopen shipping lanes, and then we should go.

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Speaker 17: The potus still retains twenty four hours of decision space.

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Speaker 17: Now sm then replies, I believe this is Stephen Miller.

892
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Speaker 17: I could be incorrect. I think it's Stephen Miller as

893
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Speaker 17: I heard it. The President was clear green light. But

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Speaker 17: we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we

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Speaker 17: expect in return. We also need to figure out how

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Speaker 17: to enforce such a requirement.

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Speaker 1: Eg.

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Speaker 17: If Europe doesn't renunerate, then what if the US successfully

899
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Speaker 17: restores freedom of navigation a great cost, there needs to

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Speaker 17: be some further economic gain extracted in return. Now it's

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Speaker 17: presumably Stephen Miller, but we don't know for sure. Then

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Speaker 17: in the next iteration we saw a couple emojis here

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Speaker 17: from Michael Walts saying the team in Mari A Lago

904
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Speaker 17: did a great job as well, great work all powerful

905
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Speaker 17: start and the name of the group chat was the

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Speaker 17: Huti PC small group. Now, how on earth did we

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Speaker 17: learn about this? On signal, you are able to add

908
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Speaker 17: people to your group chat on signal, you're able to

909
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Speaker 17: allow other people to come in. You can invite them.

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Speaker 17: National Security Advisor Michael Waltz invited the editor in chief

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Speaker 17: of the Trump hating Atlantic magazine, mister Goldberg, into.

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Speaker 13: The group chat.

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Speaker 17: To go have a window into all of these private

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Speaker 17: national security conversations. Now, before I go deeper into that

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Speaker 17: element of this, I do want to make sure that

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Speaker 17: we are clear about what we've just read. What you've

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Speaker 17: read is that both privately and publicly, there is symmetry

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Speaker 17: with the national security attitudes that our foreign policy leaders

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Speaker 17: have that there is not a private loathing for the

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Speaker 17: America First policy perspective that they ran on what jd

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Speaker 17: Vance believes publicly, he also believes in privately what Pete

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Speaker 17: Hegseth has been saying publicly. He also believes behind closed doors,

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Speaker 17: they aren't plotting how to make Elon Musk money. We

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Speaker 17: saw the Trump administration was telling the truth about what

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Speaker 17: they care about. This is exactly how I'd expect them

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Speaker 17: to speak, both publicly and privately. They aren't plotting about

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Speaker 17: how to get five points of approval without caring about

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Speaker 17: the outcome. It is raw, it's authentic. Now, how Jeffrey

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Speaker 17: Goldberg got added is likely because Mike Waltz wanted to

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Speaker 17: add the US Trade Representative Jamison Greer and had the

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Speaker 17: same initials. Now, allow me to editorialize for a second.

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Speaker 17: I know Mike Waltz. We disagree on a lot of

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Speaker 17: foreign policy stuff. There's a serious question as to why

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Speaker 17: Mike Waltz has Jeffrey Goldberg as a saved signal contact.

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Speaker 17: The very serious question. He's the editor in chief of

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Speaker 17: a Trump hating magazine, you are a national security advisor.

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Speaker 17: You've obviously been dialoguing or talking to him previously. Is

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Speaker 17: Michael Waltz leaking to Jeffrey Goldberg? I certainly hope not.

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Speaker 17: We know Jeffrey Goldberg has pushed some of the greatest

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Speaker 17: anti Trump bs in years past. This is not a

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Speaker 17: friendly or a remotely friendly reporter.

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Speaker 11: It