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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. Got Ryan Gardusky about to

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Speaker 2: join us right now. He's got a fantastic piece up.

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Speaker 2: It is called the Trump Biden Path to two seventy.

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Speaker 2: How the presidential campaign is changing fast. The substack is

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Speaker 2: National Populist Newsletter. You guys love Ryan Gardusky, and I

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Speaker 2: say this fondly because he can nerd out with the

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Speaker 2: best of them when it comes to analyzing so many

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Speaker 2: different parameters, so many different races. We've had him on

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Speaker 2: a lot over the past couple of years. Ryan, thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us. You were initially, I think it's fair

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Speaker 2: to characterize skeptical that Trump in twenty twenty four would

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Speaker 2: be able to put together a coalition that could lead

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Speaker 2: him to victory. As we sit here thirteen months out

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Speaker 2: and you are looking and checking and analyzing all the

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Speaker 2: data sources coming in, you actually are coming around to

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Speaker 2: a place where I think Buck and I have been

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Speaker 2: for the last couple of months, which is Trump's actually

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Speaker 2: in a really strong place. If you consider where he was,

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Speaker 2: for instance, in October of fifteen October of nineteen, he

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Speaker 2: was actually in a pretty strong place that was pre COVID.

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Speaker 2: But how would you assess Trump's chances in twenty four

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Speaker 2: and how do they compare to his historical standing?

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Speaker 3: Ryan, And thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me. I would say right now,

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Speaker 4: say in the began of the year he had about

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Speaker 4: a thirty percent, twenty five to thirty percent chance of winning.

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Speaker 4: He's probably at around a forty to forty five cent

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Speaker 4: chance of winning right now. So if I was a

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Speaker 4: betting man, my money would still be on Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: to win reelection. But odds have gotten a lot better

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Speaker 4: for Trump in a very very short period of time,

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Speaker 4: despite the news cycle actually getting worse for him, Polls

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Speaker 4: at least and some hard data on the ground has

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Speaker 4: been getting better. So on the national scene, and that

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Speaker 4: lobyl have seeing these election these polls where it has

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Speaker 4: shown either Trump tied or Trump winning or losing by

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Speaker 4: a point, versus polls in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen

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Speaker 4: that had him losing by five, six, seven, eight points.

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Speaker 4: So in the national scene, it's coming very very good

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Speaker 4: for Trump. The thing is is that Trump in the

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Speaker 4: past always outperformed in state polling the national polling. Now

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Speaker 4: they kind of reflect each other, and state polling for

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Speaker 4: the very first time is showing that Trump, if the

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Speaker 4: election were held today, would win the presidency two hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty one Electoral College votes to two hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty seven. And how he would do that. If you'd

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Speaker 4: flip Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, he'd still lose the other

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Speaker 4: and Virginia. So that being said that Trump now looks

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Speaker 4: better than not only did he did in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: he also still looks better than he did in October

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. He looks actually far better than he did

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Speaker 4: and poll wise, even before COVID because at the time

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Speaker 4: the opinion of Trump was so negative and they were

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Speaker 4: running they were running on his record versus running on

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Speaker 4: someone else's record.

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Speaker 5: Ryan, what's really you think at this point? Is it

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Speaker 5: just the various indictments and the response to that, like,

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Speaker 5: why have the numbers trended more in Trump's favor up

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the economy. I mean, the economy is just

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Speaker 4: absolute garbage every which way you look at it. I

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Speaker 4: don't even believe the government statistics right now on food prices.

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Speaker 4: I think that food prices have probably doubled in the

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Speaker 4: just it's everywhere you go. It's an attack on the

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Speaker 4: Upper middle class people who tend to have more cash

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Speaker 4: the way that gas prices were kind of in their

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Speaker 4: you saw Glenn Younkin win. The other thing that is

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Speaker 4: also building momentum for Trump is that one of the

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Speaker 4: border is completely broken, which dries Republicans crazy. And then

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Speaker 4: international conflicts in Ukraine and in Israel have really up

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Speaker 4: the momentum that Joe Biden cannot lead on an international stage.

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Speaker 4: So it's the perfect storm of the economy and inflation

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you have talked a lot about how you

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Speaker 2: know Trump maybe in some of these national polls, like

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Speaker 2: maybe he's pulling better in New York, maybe he's pulling

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Speaker 2: California doesn't necessarily matter because those states are.

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Speaker 3: Not going to be close. How many states?

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Speaker 2: Let's presume for just a moment that everything went perfect

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Speaker 2: for Trump in his campaign, and you know, he really

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: So my suspicion and the reason I'm asking this is,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure you saw it, there's a Quinnipiac poll

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Speaker 2: out that has with multiple different candidates involved, has Trump

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Speaker 2: only down seven in New York for instance? If Trump

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Speaker 3: How many other states are there?

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Speaker 2: States that almost nobody talks about that if Trump had

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Speaker 3: Like what about that board look like?

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Speaker 4: So the main states that Trump has in play right

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Speaker 4: now are They're five?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Which is Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and the botas

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Speaker 4: are six.

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Speaker 1: They're six.

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Speaker 4: If you look at twenty sixteen, which is when both

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Speaker 4: running very very high over five percent threshold, which is

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Speaker 4: Gary Johnson and the Green part Jill Stein at the time,

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Speaker 4: I think they ran like six or seven points. Right now,

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Speaker 4: you have RFK Junior, you'll have a Libertarian, you'll have

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Speaker 4: a Green Party, and you may have Cornell West on

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Speaker 2: And sorry, let me ask you this because you're what

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Speaker 2: percentage if you were projecting right now do you think

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Speaker 2: how many people would come off the board with all

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Speaker 2: those candidates you just mentioned.

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Speaker 4: At the best I would say as of right now,

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Speaker 4: and there's no real national polling on a lot of this,

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Speaker 4: I don't really know. Maybe six percent, maybe five percent.

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Speaker 4: Biden and Trump are historically unpopular for two major party candidates,

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Speaker 4: the most in twenty So that's the reference I'm going with.

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Speaker 4: OURFK Junior seems to be fairly popular, and you a poll,

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Speaker 4: but they don't really know much about him. He's kind

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Speaker 4: of done this very complex campaign where he's supporting like

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Speaker 4: same time he's supporting reparations for slavery. So it's this complex,

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Speaker 4: you know, coalition he's just trying to assemble. So I

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Speaker 4: would say probably between five or six, which is maybe

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Speaker 4: two to three points more than you'll averagely get. And

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Speaker 4: obviously it's higher in some states and lower in the others,

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Speaker 4: but it depends largely on what ballots does he get on.

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Speaker 4: Had the Green Party gotten on the ballot in Arizona,

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Speaker 4: Georgia and Wisconsin in twenty sixteen twenty twenty, there's a

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Speaker 4: very high likelihood that Trump would have won reelection they

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Speaker 4: weren't on the ballot, So we don't know if that

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, where the situation was very high disapproval, were

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Speaker 4: both parties third party counts running strong. The only other

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Speaker 4: again Nevada. Could Virginia. I don't know. We'll see what

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Speaker 4: Virginia's elections are like in a week. I kind of

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Speaker 4: doubt that could New Mexico. I don't know. Let's see

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Speaker 4: what Hispanics move a little bit, but the main two

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Speaker 5: Ryan, you know Whishpad, Ryan Gandrowski, everybody and his substack

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Speaker 5: is excellent. The National Populist newsletter recommended to You can

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Speaker 5: subscribe on substack Ryan the Speaker fights. It looks like

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Speaker 5: Tom Emmer is now the GOP favorite for the Speaker's gavel.

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Speaker 5: What is going on here? What's your take on?

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Speaker 7: What does this mean? And how do we get here?

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Speaker 4: You play stupid games, you win stuper prizes. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't understand what are conservatives ever actually winning? What

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Speaker 4: were they winning?

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Speaker 1: Was it to get out of you?

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Speaker 4: What was the point of doing this? I mean, I

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Speaker 4: get him McCarthy broke his promises. Okay, I completely understand that,

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Speaker 4: But what are we going to get out of an

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Speaker 4: emmr that we weren't going to get in McCarthy. It

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Speaker 4: just doesn't make any sense to me. And because conservatives

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Speaker 4: seem to always rally around whoever they've seen on television

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Speaker 4: the most, they spent all this time wasting energy on

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Speaker 4: Jim Jordan and then Byron Donald's neither of which would

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Speaker 4: have been a viable speaker choice, neither of which well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know Donald's record that much, but

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Speaker 4: Jim Jordan would have been absolutely disappointing speaker if he

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Speaker 7: Why would Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we like Jim here, I'm just wondering, why

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Speaker 5: would Jim Jordan have been dis disappointing in your mind?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a big sellout to big tech. When

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Speaker 2: It's extra I will defend Jim Jordan a little bit

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Speaker 2: there based on my knowledge. I spoke on a panel

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Speaker 2: with him about big tech. Now I don't know about

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Speaker 2: his donors, but I think he's actually been really on

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Speaker 2: the side of recognizing what censorship has been. But let's

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Speaker 2: put that on. I think we agree that we've gotten

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Speaker 2: into a mess here. So what, in your mind, Ryan

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Speaker 2: is the solution at this point. And for people out

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Speaker 2: there who are just getting in their cars or just

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Speaker 2: hanging out with it, Tom Emmer is evidently the nominee now,

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Speaker 2: and there are reports that he doesn't have the votes

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Speaker 2: Bucket and Ryan. Part of me wonders if we're gonna

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Speaker 2: remember the do over thing I used as an example book,

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Speaker 2: and it was a close call, you'd be like, let's

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Speaker 2: just do it over. Part of me thinks that Kevin

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Speaker 2: McCarthy might end up back in the speaker chair before

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Speaker 2: all this is over, and they'll just pretend none of

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Speaker 2: this happened.

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Speaker 7: What do you think happens.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, Yeah, I mean that could always be a possibility,

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Speaker 4: though I find it very hard. The majority is too

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Speaker 4: thin and emmer, you know, is an example of somebody

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Speaker 4: who fails forwards. He did a terrible job running the

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Speaker 4: midterms for the GOP. Is why they're in this position

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Speaker 4: where so few members have this much power. I think

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Speaker 4: that if I was anybody of influence, I would have

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Speaker 4: sat there and told them all to rally around. Johnson

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Speaker 4: that's basically all you have to have. Now, remember, the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks right now or how House Republicans look

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Speaker 4: They could all be gone. But if they don't strike

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Speaker 4: So it's a difficult map. Trump would have to or

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Speaker 4: So you're really asking for a very perfect gamble for

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Speaker 4: It's possible, but it's not great.

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Speaker 2: One word answer here, because we're coming up against it.

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Speaker 2: Is it fair to say Republicans should be favored to

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Speaker 4: Yes, one way answer, Yes, all right, okay.

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Speaker 8: This is unfortunate, and you know, I'm ashamed.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully we'll we'll find someone that can get two hundred

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Speaker 2: Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Plate Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. Okay, a couple of

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Speaker 2: Just like Bob Iger with Disney, the Republicans who voted

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Speaker 2: Yesterday Buck, we played a video of Caree Jean Pierre

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Speaker 5: is a real thing. There are not mobs of Jews

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Speaker 5: or anyone else marching through neighborhoods basically calling for violence

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Speaker 5: and incitement against Muslims. Yeah, and that would be a

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Speaker 5: terrible thing if that did happen, and we would obviously

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Speaker 5: be very opposed to it. But that's not happening. There

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Speaker 5: are mobs of well really just leftists. I mean, some

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Speaker 5: of them are, but it's mostly leftists. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 5: actually mostly just you know, if you're asking me, it's

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Speaker 5: white MSNBC watchers a lot of the time. Who are

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Speaker 5: the ones marching in these mobs? But there are you

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Speaker 5: know some Muslims marching along with them, and they're actually

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Speaker 5: saying things that make Jewish people in this country feel unsafe.

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Speaker 5: So why the need for a false parody in this moment?

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Speaker 5: Are a false equivalency?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: I mean this is a little bit like when they

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Speaker 5: do the you know, both sides need to calm the

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Speaker 5: violence or whatever.

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Speaker 7: No, this isn't a both sides moment.

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Speaker 5: One side is under assault and feels unsafe, and understandably

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Speaker 5: so given the dynamics at.

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Speaker 7: Play the other. This is just politics.

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Speaker 5: This is just the Democrats pretending that the group that

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Speaker 5: they views as ethnic minority religious minority in this country,

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Speaker 5: notably or specifically Muslims, are somehow under threat.

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Speaker 7: That's not the case.

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Speaker 2: Here is a Carol Markowitz shared this. This is David Burge,

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Speaker 2: and if I'm mispronouncing that, my apology. He tweeted out.

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Speaker 2: Jews are two percent of the US population. That's according

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Speaker 2: to the FBI's own statistics. Fifty one point four percent

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two US hate crimes targeted Jews. And

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Speaker 2: we have witnessed two straight weeks of anti Semitic hate

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Speaker 2: marches on elite college campuses and also in many different cities.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading from his tweet there, that's kind of evidence

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Speaker 2: that Jews might feel a little bit uncomfortable in the

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Speaker 2: United States.

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Speaker 3: Book.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Karine Jean Pierre felt compelled to

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Speaker 2: turn a question about anti semitism, and let me just

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Speaker 2: point this out, tu Buck, Joe Biden based his entire decision,

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Speaker 2: he said, on running for president of the United States,

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Speaker 2: on the Charlottesville, Virginia protest and there were anti Semitic

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Speaker 2: chants that were uttered there, and he talked about how

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Speaker 2: that was vile and unacceptable and it led.

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Speaker 3: Him to need to make the decision to run for president.

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Speaker 5: Well, specifically to run against Trump, because he says that

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Speaker 5: Trump said that there were good people on bothe people,

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Speaker 5: and when you look at the transcript, that's not what

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Speaker 5: Trump was saying. It's clear it's not what he was saying. So, yes,

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Speaker 5: no surprise, Biden ran based on a lie effectively, which

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Speaker 5: is not a surprise to anybody who knows anything about

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: But if we had an honest media, wouldn't they say, hey,

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Speaker 2: given all the marches going on in New York City,

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Speaker 2: given all the protests that we're seeing on college campuses,

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Speaker 2: which are in many ways rooted in anti Semitism.

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Speaker 3: If Joe Biden truly.

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Speaker 2: Cared about the soul of the nation, he wouldn't just

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Speaker 2: condemn people that he thought were Donald Trump's supporters for

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Speaker 2: what they might say related to people of the Jewish faith.

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Speaker 2: He would come out and say, that's totally unacceptable for

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Speaker 2: this to be occurring in the United States, because what

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Speaker 2: we're seeing from left wingers in America right now overwhelmingly

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Speaker 2: dwarfs the tiny number of people that were involved.

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Speaker 3: Doing anything in Charlotteville.

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Speaker 5: I mean imagine, you know, and this is not often

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Speaker 5: talked about for reasons that we all know, but when

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Speaker 5: the mass shooter at the baseball Diamond who tried a

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Speaker 5: mass assassination of members of Congress, I believe it was

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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, might have been twenty seventeen, shot Steve Scalise.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'll abide by Clay's rulier. I know the

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Speaker 5: guy's name, but we won't say the mass shooter's name.

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Speaker 5: It was a Bernie Sanders supporting leftist who showed up

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Speaker 5: and tried to kill a dozen a dozen or so

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Speaker 5: conservative members of Congress. If after that incident there were

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Speaker 5: mobs of Democrats marching through the street saying Republicans got

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Speaker 5: what they deserved or you know, Republicans, this is a

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Speaker 5: we would be right to feel very uncomfortable in this

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Speaker 5: country right now, right, I mean, you know this would

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Speaker 5: be under political lines, not religious lines. But there was

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Speaker 5: just a a And obviously I'm saying orders of magnitude

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Speaker 5: worse what happened in Israel, But I'm just pointing out

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Speaker 5: there was a targeting of Jews in Israel that killed

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Speaker 5: fourteen hundred of them, and the response of some mobs

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Speaker 5: in this country is to march in the streets and

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Speaker 5: say we stand with the people that did the mass

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Speaker 5: terror attack. I mean, there's no equivalency here, is what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, right, It's yeah, no under sacked. One group

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Speaker 5: has been has been and it's even I agree, And

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Speaker 5: when maybe we'll have Victor Davis Hanson on to speak

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Speaker 5: about this.

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Speaker 3: This isn't really a war.

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Speaker 5: This is a terror attack and a response to a

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Speaker 5: terror attack. This is not you know, standard nation state

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Speaker 5: military conflict because they didn't even go after IDF as

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Speaker 5: we've discussed. They really just went after civilians. They did

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Speaker 5: what al Qaeda does. They did what isis does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the only way you could call it a war,

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Speaker 2: I guess in this response is if you have bought

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Speaker 2: in and you could potentially to the idea that the

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Speaker 2: Palestinian government is effectively taken over by Hamas, and then

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Speaker 2: the action by Jamas is actually representative of what the

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Speaker 2: state itself would choose to do if it were given

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Speaker 2: the power to act instead of Hamas. Right, that's the

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Speaker 2: way you would describe this as a war. But as

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Speaker 2: we've said before, Ukraine and Russia is and I know

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Speaker 2: there are depredations taking place, but that's a traditional war.

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Speaker 2: The two armies are mostly fighting against each other. That's

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Speaker 2: not necessarily what's going on here. Although the way this

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Speaker 2: thing is spiraling, there may be multiple armies involved before

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we'll see.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to play and boff. You want to get

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Speaker 5: some of your calls and some of your v I p.

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Speaker 5: Emails start with a call from uh Mark in Spring Texas. Mark,

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Speaker 5: you're on Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: What's up in Israel? My sister in law and all

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Speaker 1: our family and my brother, all their their kids and

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Speaker 1: their kids.

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Speaker 3: Sorry we missed? Sorry? Can you just sorry?

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Speaker 1: Mark?

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Speaker 3: Can you start over with us? We missed like the

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Speaker 3: first sentence of what you were saying.

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Speaker 1: So I have family in Israel, I have my my

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Speaker 1: my sister in law and brother in law are there

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Speaker 1: with their kids, and they're in a bomb shelter. They've

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Speaker 1: been one since since the seventh But I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: right now, I would feel safer in that bomb shelter

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Speaker 1: because there's somebody to protect me there than I do

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Speaker 1: in this country right now, right now, with what's going

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Speaker 1: on in our college campuses, my kids, my sons at

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Speaker 1: in Dallas at s m U. Statement that came out

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Speaker 1: there was ridiculous. And this is what he's not able

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Speaker 1: to do the things he was doing before the attacks,

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Speaker 1: before he used to be very active in the Jewish community,

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Speaker 1: to go to hubbad services. I've told him he needs

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Speaker 1: to cut that out. Right now because it's dangerous for him.

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Speaker 2: In your experience, Mark, why is this a conversation that

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Speaker 2: Jewish parents and grandparents I would imagine everywhere are having

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Speaker 2: with their kids about being afraid for what might happen

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Speaker 2: to them in the United States right now based on

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing.

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Speaker 1: I said this to them before, but now it's to

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Speaker 1: a point where it's coming to a head. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. We're two We're too easy on hate when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Jews. I feel like a secondary citizen

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Speaker 1: in this country right now because my rights are not

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Speaker 1: being protected in the people we stand in.

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Speaker 5: This audience stands with you and your family, both here

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Speaker 5: and in Israel.

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Speaker 2: And Mark, are you one hundred percent of what bucks saying?

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, Mark, are you having conversations with people who

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Speaker 2: might have been traditional leftist leaning voters who are sort

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Speaker 2: of in disbelief about what they're seeing.

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Speaker 1: No, here's the crazy part, Okay, here's the craziest part

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Speaker 1: of it. Okay. I even have family members, okay that

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Speaker 1: are Jewish that don't see it, And I'm like, you've

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Speaker 1: got to be blind not to see what's coming and

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Speaker 1: what's what's in front of you, I now understand. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've lost a lot of family in the programs in Russia.

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Speaker 1: I talked to my grandfather about it. I understand. He said,

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Speaker 1: they left, but the ones that didn't leave were slaughtered.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to him about the family that came

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Speaker 1: over during the Holocaust, and he said they didn't understand

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Speaker 1: what was going on until it was too late, some

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Speaker 1: of them. But this we've got social media and they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're broadcasting things that we couldn't show in

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Speaker 1: a movie. They're broadcasting. They took a woman who was

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Speaker 1: pregnant and picked her. Then after they got done raping her,

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Speaker 1: they decided to cut the baby out of her. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they left her alive to see that the baby was there.

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Speaker 1: They then proceeded to cut the head off the baby

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Speaker 1: and burn it alive in front of her before killing

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Speaker 1: her by forensics. I mean, that's the kind of crazy

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Speaker 1: hate we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: They still, the the most evil acts imaginable, the most

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Speaker 5: evil acts anybody could ever do, have been committed by

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Speaker 5: Hamas here and we see that mark and we're we're

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Speaker 5: very clear on what we think the actions required are

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Speaker 5: now and who is you know, moral and who is

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Speaker 5: right in this in this conflict and what needs to happen.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for calling in from from Texas and h claya.

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Speaker 5: I I said the other day, I have neighbors here,

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Speaker 5: you know, I live. I live in Miami, and I

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Speaker 5: have a number of Jewish neighbors and they're feeling the

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Speaker 5: same way. What is this with these Palestinian these pro

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Speaker 5: Palestinian marches where they're shouting these things?

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Speaker 7: Given what just happened, how could.

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Speaker 5: I feel safe or how could I feel like there's

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Speaker 5: not some broader movement of anti Semitism out there that

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Speaker 5: could erupt at any moment and be a threat to

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Speaker 5: those you know, Jewish individuals and their families.

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Speaker 7: Ben in al Paso, Ben, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I just wanted to ask what is the objection

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Speaker 6: to and why are Republicans overlooking Byron Donald's for speaker.

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Speaker 6: He's a member of the Freedom Caucus, intelligent and articular speaker,

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Speaker 6: and he is black. He would be the first black

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Speaker 6: speaker of a House in history, which makes him more

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Speaker 6: palapable through the Congressman and Purple districts and may even

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Speaker 6: get him a voter troop from the Dens.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you, Ben, we actually just had a

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Speaker 5: real nice uh you know chat. We bumped into Congressman

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Speaker 5: Donalds when we were in d C. I mean just

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Speaker 5: literally just you know, walked walking down the hallway and

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Speaker 5: saw him, uh and got got to catch up with

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Speaker 5: him a little bit. Look, I think he's a really

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Speaker 5: strong member of Congress. But it's right now, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I can't I can't answer the question as to why

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Speaker 5: other Republicans decided that they were going to put Emmer

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Speaker 5: ahead of Byron Donalds.

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Speaker 7: But that's happened already.

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Speaker 2: Well and everybody else for that matter, I think Donald's

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Speaker 2: came in third or fourth. My assumption would be he's young.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he has always been in Congress for a

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Speaker 2: couple of terms.

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Speaker 5: Usually the speaker favors and there's you know, there's back

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Speaker 5: room dealings.

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Speaker 2: You for twenty years before typically you end up the

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Speaker 2: speaker of the House.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it is frustrating. But even Gradski Ryan Graduski

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Speaker 5: said this.

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Speaker 7: Earlier the hour.

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Speaker 5: Nancy Pelosi, as much as she is, you know, all

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Speaker 5: the worst ideas of the San Francisco Liberal sort of

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Speaker 5: embodied very effective at being a progressive, totalitarian House speaker.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, she ruled with an iron fist

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Speaker 5: and maintained it for a long time. It's its own thing,

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Speaker 5: and it requires certain skills and certain, let's just say,

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Speaker 5: certain leverage. I think within the Congress that not everybody had.

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Speaker 5: I don't disagree with the caller.

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Speaker 2: I think that Byron Donalds would be an interesting choice

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Speaker 2: that would potentially be more of a outreach while also

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Speaker 2: having a strong conservative The House Republicans disagree