1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Susan Grau with Us a medium speaker author. She uses 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: her understanding of the afterlife to show people and individuals 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: and children how to understand and utilize their afterlife encounters. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Susan's mission is to help alleviate the pain and grief 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: of losing someone through a greater comprehension of the afterlife. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Her book is called Infinite Life, Infinite Lesson. Susan. Welcome 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: to the program, first time. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: I understand it is my first time. George. It's so 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: nice to talk to you. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, let's look forward to two hours of having a 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: great time. Welcome to the show. 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: Thank you. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit more about yourself. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: Well, I had a near death experience at five years old, 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: almost five. I was locked in an unclubbed breeze or 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: in a garage. Oh my god, and yeah yeah, some 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: boys locked me in there and I had a really 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: profound experience. I traveled into the afterlife, and when I 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: came back, I just knew things and felt things, and 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: I got to see a lot of rooms there and 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: have a It was profound. It was quite profound. 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: How long were you locked in there? 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: Well, they say anywhere from twenty minutes to two hours. 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's somewhere in between. 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Without auction, how'd you get out? 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: My mother kept carrying your babies in the freezer, and 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: she ignored it for quite a long time, and then 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: finally she decided to go investigate. The garage store was closed. 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: They closed the garage door, and she said, I couldn't 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: open it myself, so she figured I wouldn't be in there, 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: But then she decided to double check. And when she 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: opened up the got in and opened up the freezer. 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: There I was, and I was ashen, and she spun 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 3: me around and I fell out and hit my face 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: basically my chin, and craft it open and took a breath. 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Now, what happened to the two boys 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: who locked you in there? 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Not a thing. I think my mom went over there 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: and you know, did her cry thing, and they just 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: got told they were bad to do it, never to 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: do it again. 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: I would assume they did not know they were killing 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: you when they did this. 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: No, I think we were playing a game. I thought 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: I was part of the game, I think they thought. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: And they were just kind of mean little boys. They 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: really were. I mean they you know, they just had 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: this way about them. So they used to do other 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: things too. I was younger, and you know how older 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: boys like to pick on the little kids, and they did, 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: and you know, they thought it was funny. They thought 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: I'd just be really scared. They didn't recognize that I 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to breathe. 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: Well, Susan, at five years old, what do you still 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: recollect about this thing? 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: Well? I was. I was four and a half, actually 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: almost five, and I had to tell you I remember 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: every detail and have my whole life. There wasn't anything 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: I don't remember. I was taken at my body. I 62 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: did not look back at my body like I hear 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: from a lot of people. I ended up at the 64 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: bottom of a starewell and I was looking up, thinking 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: how am I going to get up there? But what 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: happened immediately when I started screaming is I saw three 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: lights and I heard stop screaming. I didn't because I 68 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: was little and I was scared. I was terrified. And 69 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: then I heard one of them say very strongly, stop screaming. 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: We're going to show you something. And then the next 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: thing I knew, I was at the bottom of the stairwell, 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: and I knew that it was really full room. I 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: tell you now as an adult, a Greco Roman room 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: with an open ceiling, and I knew there was a 75 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: circle inside. And I actually studied under doctor Raymond Moody 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: and he told me that was probably the tunnel. I 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: called it the well. And the next thing I knew, 78 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: I was at the edge of this well, and I 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: could see DNA, like a look of DNA, like the 80 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: swirling words, and it was moving all over the place. 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: And of course I didn't recognize DAN at the time, 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: but I see it now as one consciousness. And I 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: was listening to prayers. But my mom's going to die, 84 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Please help her, Please don't let her die. Dad. I 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: want to get my dad to buy me a new car. 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: It was all these prayers, and I looked at these 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: beautiful lights, which I called my angels, and I said, 88 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: do you answer all those And they said, no, Suzie. 89 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes that people desire the most isn't good for them. 90 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: And they continued, go. 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: Ahead, Oh, no, a show well. 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: They continued to show me three other places quite profoundly. 93 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean I was in each room. One was the 94 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: Room of Knowledge, which is I know now as an adult, 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: is the Acotic records. I was in the Room of Companions, 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: which is animals. And I was on the Yellow Brook Road. 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: I called it the Yellow Broock Road because I had 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: been I had seen the Wizard of Oz, and so 99 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: the yellow brick Road made sense to me. But it 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: was a beautiful road of pavers, and there were pyramids, 101 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: and people were trying to pave their path, and it 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: was all bumpy and crooked and out alignment, and they 103 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: were pulling from the bottom of these pyramids to do so. 104 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: And I knew somehow innately that that was their life balance, 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: that they were making their life journey off balance. And 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: they dropped to their knees and they'd say, please help me, 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: for the love of God, please help me. And I'd 108 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: watch these beautiful angel lights come in, remove all the papers, 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 3: put it to the bottom of the pyramid, go to 110 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: the top and start pulling the papers, and they'd recreate. 111 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: And I watched them pay this path, and I said, 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: what are you doing? And they said, we are the papers. 113 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: You are not. All you have to do is walk it, 114 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: And I said, how do you know if you're walking 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: it right? And they said, because we blessed and block everything. 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: And if you see a block shift, if you see 117 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: another block shift, and continue in that process until you 118 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: see us heaving your path. We know what's right for you. 119 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: You think you know what's right for you. And they 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: said what you try to control controls you, and what 121 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: you run from chases you. You must face your journey. 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: And I flipped out of that. You know, that's a 123 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: really long story, but I flipped out of that into 124 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: the room of knowledge and I was watching these not 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: there was no such thing as virtual in my age, 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: but it looked like that to me now looking back 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 3: that it was kind of like the tablets of books 128 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 3: moving in this room. And I was watching these soul 129 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: families and I didn't understand they were sull families until later, 130 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: but I know now. And they were having this conversation 131 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: and they were saying things like I'm going to go 132 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 3: back and I'm going to do this, and I'm going 133 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: to do this, and I'm going to do that, and 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: this one was saying, I'm going to come right after 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: you and I'll help you do this. And I could 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: hear these guides saying to them, I don't think you 137 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: want to do all that. There's way too much to 138 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: take on in one lifetime. And they go, no, no, 139 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: I can do it. I can do it. Well, there's 140 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: a lot going on there, and it's going to be 141 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: really hard for you to do have all those experiences 142 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: to learn and grow. How about we put that down 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: a little basically, is what they were saying. And they said, no, no, 144 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: I can do it. And they said, okay, you have 145 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: free will, And the next thing I know, they were gone. 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: And then there were more people and I said where 147 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: did they go? And they said they went to their 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: next incarnation, and they explained what free will was to me. 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: I didn't clearly understand it, but I knew a little 150 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: bit about what they were saying, like, I get to 151 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: make my own decisions, and I have doors in front 152 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: of me, and those decisions besides the soul growth that 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: I have dependent upon which decision I make, besides the 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: pain level or the joy level, and my soul expands 155 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: and grows through that. 156 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: And all this thought four and a half. You remember 157 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: all this. 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: I remember it all. I just didn't understand it all. 159 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: I understand it all now, So I'm giving you the 160 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: v point now as an adult woman that understands what 161 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: all of that meant. What I saw, what it meant, 162 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: But at the time I didn't really understand it. I 163 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: just kind of watched it. It was like, you know, 164 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: I watched The Wizard of Oz and ars a little girl, 165 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: and I remember every detail of the Wizard of Oz 166 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: was kind of like that. For me. I never forgot 167 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: the movie. I loved it, you know, follow the yellow 168 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: brick row and the little you know, you know, the 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: little animals and creatures, and that's how it was. It 170 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: was like watching the scene for me. And so I 171 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: didn't understand the metaphorical information like most things that we watched, 172 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: but I did understand what I was seeing, meaning it 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: was clear to me. And I flashed into a room 174 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: that was the room of companions, which were our animals, 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: and they were romping and playing and having fun. And 176 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: I ended up in this field with this beautiful flowers. 177 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: And I was little, you know, I was still me. 178 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: I was little, and I looked to my left and 179 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 3: there was this mountain, and on this mountain was this 180 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: amazingly it's very emotional, Amazingly beautiful beam, and I could 181 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 3: feel nothing but love, and I knew I was good. 182 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: I was I was enough, I was perfect. No, it wasn't. 183 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: It was more like Source, what we call God or Source. 184 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: It was powerful and all love, pure love, and it 185 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: was a beam. It was light coming out that I 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: can't explain, so bright that it should have hurt my 187 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: if I had eyes which and it it was like 188 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 4: a feeling. 189 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: Of your perfection. There is nothing that isn't perfect in you, 190 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: and you're just love and peace, unconditional. Everything about you 191 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: is perfection. And I wanted to go up the mountain 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: and I knew I couldn't. And then this beautiful light 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to call the light beam, I don't know 194 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: what else to call it came towards me. And as 195 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: it was coming towards me, it just expanded more and 196 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: more and more, and I felt more love and more 197 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: love and more love. And then I looked to my 198 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: right and there was an angel floating towards me, excuse me. 199 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: And I wanted to float. That's all I could think of. 200 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: Am I going to float? I hope I can float? 201 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: I want to float? 202 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Did you know? 203 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: No? I did not. I was in a different place. 204 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: Did you even know though, where you were? 205 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: No, I knew. I grew up, so I had some 206 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: topologism background at that point in my journey. And my 207 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: parents were Catholic, and so I understood angels, and I 208 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: understood God, and I understood heaven. So I guess you 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: could say I thought I was probably there, but I 210 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: didn't understand it fully. I was still too little, and 211 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: I had never lost an animal, so I didn't see 212 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: any animals I knew. And I had never lost a 213 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: loved one that I knew real well at that time, 214 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: and so I didn't get that. 215 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: Connection when you came out of this, when you came back, 216 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: how long did it take before you realized what had 217 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: happened to you? Did it take years or did you 218 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: know right away? 219 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: No, it took years. I did not understand whatsoever what happened. 220 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: I remembered everything, and I would tell my mom, and 221 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: you know, she'd write things down because my mother and 222 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: my sister and my brother had abilities, and I was 223 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: seen things and I would cry, and I thought they 224 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: were the Boogeyman. And they would surround me and talk 225 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: to me, and I would hear mumbling, and they weren't 226 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: the Boogeyman, and I realized that when they didn't hurt me. 227 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: At what age did you realize that there's something out there? 228 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: Well, I knew I started playing with them, and when 229 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: I realized they weren't going to hurt me and I 230 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: didn't need to be afraid of when I truly understood 231 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: that there was more, and that was probably right at five, 232 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: about three or four months after this event, and I 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: got it. 234 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: I was still a little kid. 235 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: Yes I was little, but I knew that there was 236 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: more to life than just what we were living. And 237 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: I was a little healer. I wanted to heal everything 238 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: and everyone. So I was already, you know, walking around 239 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: trying to fix and heal and make people okay. I 240 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: was a little fixer, and especially with animals, and I 241 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: just wanted to be loved. That's all I wanted. Just 242 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: love me and I'll be okay. And so I was 243 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: constantly trying to be there for everyone, even just as 244 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: a little girl. I'd play with my friends and if 245 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: they got an alley idea right on top of them, 246 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: oh let me fix you. And everyone used to say 247 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to be a doctor, but that wasn't what 248 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: was going on inside of me. I knew that there 249 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: was some reason that I was here, I just didn't 250 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: know what it was completely. Even though they told me 251 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: that I was going to have a very difficult life 252 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: journey and that I would help people heal, I still 253 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: didn't understand fully. 254 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, you carried this through since you were five, I 255 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: would guess almost every day. 256 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: I'd play with them when I was little all the time. 257 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: My family called it the creepy Room, George, because it 258 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: was our living room, and I would play house in 259 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: there with ghosts. That's what I would do all day long. 260 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: And so they called my brothers and sisters called the 261 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: creepy room. 262 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: Did they that? Did they understand what was going on 263 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: too with you? 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: I think so? In some way. I know that my 265 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: brother had this gift very profoundly. He saught spirit, and 266 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: I know that my sister and my mother had it. 267 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: But my mother was put She had a nervous breakdown 268 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: over it, and they put her in an institution for 269 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks and medicated her. As part of 270 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: why she didn't come find me earlier. When she heard 271 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: the message, I was in the freezer. 272 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: Where did she hear the message from her head, some 273 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: spirit gave it to her. 274 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: I believe so, and you know I was talking to 275 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: her too, So I always wonder, is that my first 276 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: lesson in how to communicate? But you know that the 277 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: spirit world is an amazing, beautiful realm and there is 278 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: nothing to fear. So I have never feared leaving this planet, 279 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: and in fact, I wanted to till I was thirty 280 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: six years old. It's not something I share very often, 281 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: but I wanted to leave. I didn't want to be here. 282 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: So I always tell people, Susan, there's no rush, you'll 283 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: get there. 284 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: That's right. Well, and now I'm so grateful because I 285 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: recognize that no matter what we go through, we have 286 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: something to offer ourselves and others. Our soul grows from 287 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: our experiences. Since you know, I had two brothers and 288 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: a mother who committed suicide, and so I've had some 289 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: real grief, Oh my God, along with that, yeah, along 290 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: with other things, and that has happened in my life journey, 291 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: and so I understand grief, and I know that it 292 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: was my greatest gift to understand that the soul grows 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: in that through that, not their leaving, but knowing that 294 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: my soul was going to grow through that that I 295 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: would be okay. 296 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Truly remarkable. Yeah did you did youlf teach yourself or 297 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: did you have helpers? Well, I mean, I mean, I 298 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: mean human helpers. 299 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I was wondering. 300 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 301 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: I studied under Lisa Williams, James von Prague, doctor Raymond Moody. 302 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: I got my doctorate with doctor Raymond Moody and divinity. 303 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: The best, the best of the best. 304 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: And I'm still friends with James. And he told me to. 305 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Tell you hello, a great guy. 306 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: Yes he is, but I you know, I it was 307 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: important to me to understand my intuitive gift. I wanted 308 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: to understand what intuition was because it's so important and 309 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: the problem in our world is that we don't know 310 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: how to separate fear from from intuition. And intuition is survival. 311 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: It helps us. It's it's a beautiful gift that we can, 312 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, maneuver through the world understanding what's the us, 313 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: what's happening, and fear can hould us back, it can 314 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: stop us from doing things because we don't. It's frightening 315 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: to us. It's heavy, it's still dark. So you know, 316 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: I had to learn what the difference was of my 317 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 3: intuitive information and my fear based because all humans are 318 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: fear based in some way. 319 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 320 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 321 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: dot com for more