1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great event. It's it's fun to get 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: back actually scouting some players place. For me, it's really 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: my first chance to see a lot of guys in 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: one place. Our college Scotts have seen all these guys 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot already. For me from some of these guys, 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: I haven't seen these guys yet, so it's size. It's 7 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: a great field, everybody. Chris Harry with you on our 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: first offseason edition of Chargers Weekly. That was General manager 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Tom Tolesco at the top discussing Senior Bowl Week, which 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: kicks off next Tuesday in Mobile, Alabama. A bit later, 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Dame Brugler of The Athletic will give you a preview 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: of what to expect and players to watch Dannamobile. But 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: first I recap the Chargers twenty eighteen season with ESPN's 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Eric Williams all right here at the Hope Performance Center 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: a rainy day and Coasta Mesa wrapping up to twenty 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: eighteen season with Eric Williams of ESPN and Eric we 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: just heard from Tom to LESCo. It's just funny how 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: quickly this thing hits. You know, you lose on Sunday 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: to the Patriots, players clean out their locker on Monday 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: and suddenly it's a rap. Yeah, that's kind of how 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: every season is is. You could be going on this 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: high where you're on this this magical playoff run and 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: you're hoping that it ends in a super Bowl, and 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it just crashes. It's done, 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: and the next day they're cleaning out the lockers. Next 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: day they're they're going to Sunny Locale Sunny or locale that. 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Where we're at here and and you're on to the 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: next year. It's kind of like clockwork. So where do 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: you start when you talk about the twenty eighteen Chargers. 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: Obviously it doesn't end the way they wanted to end, 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: But this happens to thirty one team spend. Everybody is upset, 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: except for the one in February when the confetti comes down. Well, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: I think you have to acknowledge that you had a 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: good year. You know, twelve and four probably exceeded expectations 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the regular season where people thought this 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: team was going to be going into it certainly exceeded 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: what I thought. I thought this was kind of a 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: ten and six fringe playoffs. You start one and two, 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, one and two, and at that 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: point you're going, will You're really gonna have to get 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: going to get to where you want to be. But 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: then they obviously they play really well on the road, 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: they win some close games, some nastally televised games, they 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: build some momentum, and then you had, you know a 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: number of different players kind of make steps leaps in 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: terms of their progress. So you like that part of it, 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: but then you kind of have that bitter taste in 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: your mouth in the way that you played at New England. 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: It's okay to lose New England, but when you lose 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: that way, you really start to kind of look and go, well, 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: are we really doing the things that we need to 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: do to get to a Super Bowl? And so I 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: think like last season was about beating the Chiefs because 54 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: it had been so long since you had beaten them, 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: and they're the AFC West Division champions and that's who 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: you have to beat to win the division. Sure you 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: did that this year, so you were able to kind 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: of take a step there. Now I think the next 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: step is how do you beat the Patriots? Because you 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: gotta beat the Hatriots more likely than not in order 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: to get to the Super Bowl. So I think this 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: season will be about how do you continue to make 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: changes to the roster to beat that team. And we're 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: seeing a progression, a positive progression. We just heard from 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: Tom I talked to it earlier this week. He brought 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: up an interesting parallel between the two thousand and two Colts. 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I think it's Tony Dungey's first year in the twenty 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: eighteen Chargers team. That Colts team with Peyton Manning. A 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: loaded Colts team lost fourty going nothing to the Jets 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: and the playoffs proceeded to go to the playoffs, he said, 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: twelve over the next thirteen years. So there is I 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: think there's a step by step process. Sometimes you got 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: to go through some adversity to get to where you 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: want to go. And then we look at this roster, 75 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, it had not been there before. Eric, 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: it's incremental, as you said, it's step by step. You know, 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: I covered the seats for six seasons. The first year 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: that Russell was there, they lost to the Falcons and 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: a divisional round game. They probably should have won that game, 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: but they beat the Redskins in the wild card. But 81 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: they beat the Redskins in the on the remember that 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: because you were on the East coast. It was fourteen 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: nothing in that game, red start. Remember that game. They 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: came back. So for them, it was kind of similar. 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: They made it through the divisional round. The next year, 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: they ended up getting to the super Bowl. More importantly, 87 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: they had those games at home, and I think that's 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 1: one of the things that the Chargers need to get. 89 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: They need to be playing in sunny California in those 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: playoff games at home, versus in cold New England, cold Baltimore, 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: cold Kansas City. While they had a lot of success 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, excuse me the success during the regular 93 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: season on the road, you know, nine and oh before 94 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the New England game when they boarded playing. Realistically, if 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: you want to make it to the super Bowl, you're 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to host some home games to do that. 97 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: So they need to win the division. Look at the 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: last five years, look at recent history, all four of 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: the home teams in the divisional round one and this team. 100 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: You know, you could look to that Broncos game. Perhaps 101 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: there's a couple of games where maybe you should have 102 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: had it. You're then have one overall seed and maybe 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: things are different right now. Yeah, No, doubt. You look 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: at that that Broncos game where if you're able to 105 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: salt the clock away, you come away the victory, then 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: you're you're you're the division champion Baltimore game, you know, 107 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: you have the ball driving going in and then obviously 108 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: Antonio Gates had the fumble, so he had some opportunities 109 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: there to earn home field, just didn't take advantage of it. 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: And then you have to go on the road, and 111 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's just much more difficult on the road 112 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: to get it done. You've seen Philip play, uh for 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: several years now covering this team. Was this his best year? 114 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: You think as a pro? I don't know if it 115 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: was best year? Um, I think maybe most complete year. 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, maybe the most complete, that's fair. Most composed, 117 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: I guess. I just thought he was steady throughout the 118 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: whole year, and and and the offense did a great 119 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: job of executing with him, uh, you know, at the 120 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: front of it. Um. So, really, when you look at 121 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: back to back years with Anthleane as a head coach, 122 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: his ability to kind of curb turnover, to put the 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: offense in good situations so they're successful, and then get 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: them into a rhythm. I think that's great. I think 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: he can continue to play this way for another two 126 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: or three years. You know, I know he's in the 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: final years deal, and we're kind of asking to Less, go, hey, 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with Philip during the offseason? 129 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: Are you going to do a contract extension? And they'll 130 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: they'll have conversations because I think they believe in Philip 131 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: long term in terms of leading this team, and that 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: he still has a couple of years left. But you 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: know he ain't gonna be able to play forever. You 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: know that window is closing. He's more near the end. 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: I heard you asked that. You asked the quarterback draft question. 136 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: You know that came up all the time last year too, 137 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see, right but it's one of 138 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: those things where when you see somebody play at this 139 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: level the way that Phillip is playing, you know that 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. As Tom said, yeah, he's not 141 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: going anywhere. And rightly, I think if you have Philip 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: rivers where he's at and then how much he's earning 143 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: in terms of compensation, you want to do your best 144 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: to around him with as much talent as possible to 145 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: help him get to that point. In order to do that, 146 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: you have to draft talented players early in the draft, 147 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: and then maybe once you feel like there's no longer 148 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: a chance, then you start thinking about quarterback at that point. 149 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: But I think as long as Phillips in that window 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: where you feel like he can win a Super Bowl, 151 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: you want to just continue to surround him as many 152 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: talented players on offense and defense as possible to make 153 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: it easy to get there. This is why I think 154 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Chargers fans, when you look at the offensive side of 155 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the ball, you have a lot to look forward to. 156 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, is with seventeen under center each week, 157 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Eric there seemed to be a different guy to kind 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: of get the job done. You know Melvin in Buffalo 159 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, Seattle, you know Keenan and justin Jackson. You know, 160 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: winning a game in Pittsburgh, you know Williams, Williams in 161 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Austin, you know sprinkled in throughout the year. 162 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Tyrrell had two big touchdowns in Cleveland. You're not relying 163 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: ying on, you know, just one all star or one 164 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: all pro to get the job done a week in 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: a week out. I think that bodes well for this 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: offense in twenty nineteen, I think so, And you want 167 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're able to retain a lot 168 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: of those guys. You have Melvin going into the last 169 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: year of his rookie deal, and obviously to LESCo thinks 170 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: a lot about Melvin and what he can bring to 171 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: this offense. And so that's another thing you have to 172 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: look out in terms of contract extension and are you 173 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: able to get something done there, because you want to 174 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: keep Melvin around as an engine that drives this offense 175 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: along with those playmakers. Though, oh line, you got to 176 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: continue to protect Philip because he's not the most mobile guy. 177 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: How do you continue to add to make sure that 178 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: that stays where it needs to be in terms of 179 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: both pass protection and your ability to get a job 180 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: done in the run. Yeah, I thought Palcy was a 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: great free agent. Edition Russell Pro Bowl alternate this year, 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll see. We talked about Fort 183 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: Slamp today and I think there are some some parallels 184 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: between the ability to just have a healthy off season 185 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: like Mike Williams did last year. Mike, we saw what 186 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: he was able to do with a healthy off season 187 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: eleven total touchdowns, which I think was top five among receivers. 188 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: So Forrest lamp is somebody this off season. I think 189 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: it is so paramount for him to be healthy going 190 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: into OTAs and training, camping and all that good stuff. 191 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned it. Once Mike got healthy, now as talent 192 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: can start to show, and I think it's kind of 193 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: similar with Forrest. Just let's get his knee healthy first. 194 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Usually with a person with the ACL injury, the second 195 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: year is is better than the first year in terms 196 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: of their health and they can go out and kind 197 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: of be the player they were before they had the injury. 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are hopeful that will happen for 199 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Forrest and he can kind of get in there and 200 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: have a full off season to really focus on the 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: offense and his skill set. And then we'll see, you know, 202 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: as he going to be competing with skull Field at 203 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: right guard, will it be Feeney. We'll see how all 204 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: that stuff shakes out. They have months and months to 205 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: to look at different iterations of that offense exactly. We're 206 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: not even talking about draft picks. When I talk about 207 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: free agency, there's some people that could come in to 208 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: further bolster the line defensively. I think you got to 209 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: start with the rookie, right Derwin James. I asked Tom 210 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: if he exceeded expectations. He said, maybe a little bit 211 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, no doubt. I mean you expected him 212 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: to contribute, but you didn't expect him to have one 213 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: hundred tackles and just be all over the field making 214 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: plays like he did. I think I thought Tom did 215 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: a good job of talking about the maturity. I think 216 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that you saw from from Derwin. 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: And it was early on, right from the beginning, from 218 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: talking about Gus, and Gus was talking about, you know, 219 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: leadership skills, and I was like, leadership as a rookie. 220 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: It just seemed odd that that was one of the 221 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: first things that he would mention when he talked about Darwin. 222 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: But then you saw it on the field. He was 223 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: a guy that that gave the rest of the defense energy. 224 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: You know, the way he played. He would get people 225 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: going on the field. Sometimes you'd get people lined up. 226 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: This is really rookie tone other guys where they need 227 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. Um, So obviously he's a he's a 228 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: type a personality in the way he plays. He's he's focused, 229 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that you can build a defense around. 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: And you got him at number seventeen, which is crazy 231 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: to think that sixteen other teams passed up on you. Guys, 232 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: do this exercise idea. If we're redrafting right now, where's 233 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: Darwin going? Well, we already did it was what was 234 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: the result? Again, I did not get a chance to 235 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: draft Durwin James. Let me just say that I had 236 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: to pick somebody else. Okay, So the way the exercise 237 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: work is you you're at seventeen, right, Yeah, Darn was 238 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: not there. Darn was not there in the redraft. I 239 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: imagine he was probably a top five to seven pick. 240 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: He was a top ten pick something like that, somebody, 241 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: somebody earlier. It might have been the nine Ers. I 242 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: wasn't sure, but but yeah I didn't. I think I 243 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: end up taking the kid out of Boise Stay at 244 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: some pretty good value. Yeah, yeah, pretty good by a 245 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: pretty good player, was on a all rookie team. Um. 246 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, you just and it's every year it's like 247 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: that where guys will fall and you're like, how is 248 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: that guy falling? Um? But the Chargers are thankful because 249 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: they got a guy that's gonna be you know, a 250 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: dominant defensive player on this team from the next decade, 251 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: and you look at the edge of rushers, you got 252 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: to have a book in pass rush duo, especially in 253 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think just having Joey healthy from the beginning. 254 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: We can't predict injuries. No one's ever going to be 255 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: able to predict what happens throughout the course of an 256 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: NFL season. But when you have young guys like Melvin 257 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: and his prime in Bosa believe entering his fourth season, 258 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: that's a good start. Yeah, no doubt. And I think 259 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: one of the things that's good about this team is 260 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: when you look at some of the foundational players on 261 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: defense and offense, they're still relatively young, and that's kind 262 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: of all we talk about that window still being open 263 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: for them. Well, how about guys like Desmond King, Eric 264 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: and Chenna who got some valuable snaps. Justin Jones got 265 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: some valuable snaps this year. There's a lot of young 266 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: guys who to LESCo a Company have drafted over the 267 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: past couple of Isaac Rochelle's another one who kind of 268 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: steadied the ship while BOSSA was out and you needed 269 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: those guys to come in and make impact plays in 270 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: order to defense to kind of play the way they 271 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: did in the first half of the year, along with 272 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: glue guys like you know, Adrian Phillips and Damien Square 273 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: that were just good utility players that could play a 274 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: number of different positions and kind of shore up you know, 275 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: holes or void that voids that you had in your defense. 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, the young players did a good job of 277 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: stepping up and playing well. You know, Michael Davis is 278 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: another guy that came in and played corner and was 279 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: solid because Trevor was a little bit dinged up, So 280 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: you needed that. And so now I think one thing 281 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: that people don't understand is guys don't say that stay 282 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: the same. They either get better or worse. And so 283 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: you're hoping these young guys will continue to grow and 284 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: get better and as they improve and play together, your 285 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: defense is going to get better. And that's really how 286 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: you take those those next steps that we talked about, 287 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: those incremental steps in terms of where you're going to 288 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: be in your playoff positioning and then hopefully reaching the 289 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: super Well, you need your young players then again that 290 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: you draft, you need to develop them and they need 291 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: to get better. What areas on this football team do 292 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: you think need to be improved if the Chargers are 293 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: going to get another one seed next year and go 294 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: further than the divisional round. Well, I think the first 295 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: thing is pass rush. I think when you look at 296 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and a lot of people talk about their 297 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: defense giving up points or yards, but at the end 298 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: of the game, when they're in a tight game, they're 299 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: able to generate pressure because of who they have as 300 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: pass rushers. They have Dford on one side, they have 301 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: Houston on the other side, and they have that beast 302 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Chris Jones in the middle like a second twelve straight games. 303 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: So when you're able to push from the edge and 304 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: the middle, that makes your defense pretty tough because now 305 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: you're guys in the back end don't have to cover 306 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: as much. So the Chargers obviously have Bosa and Ingram, 307 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: they have two guys that can push from the edge. 308 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: They need to get a dominant interior pass rusher to 309 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: go along with those guys, either through the draft or 310 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: free agency, to add to aren't already pretty talented defensive line, 311 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: So that would be one thing. Obviously, linebacker, when you 312 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: have Kaizier, Denzel j Tavis all finished on ir I 313 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: mean that just hurt your ability to be multiple on defense, 314 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: and you know, by necessity, you had to go out 315 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: there and play seven defensive backs just because you really 316 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: didn't have linebackers that could do the things that you 317 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: wanted to do that Gus Bradley wanted to do. So 318 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: either those guys have to get healthy and stay healthy 319 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and you can rely on them, or you have to 320 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: go out and draft guys that are a similar skill set. 321 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, I covered this defense when I was in Seattle, 322 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: and when they were at their best, they had Wagner. 323 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: And she's gonna say, Bobby Wagner is the first name 324 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: that comes to mind. That's kind of the guy you're 325 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: looking for. You know, six four, two hundred forty five, 326 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: round of four or five at his pro day, very athletic, 327 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: and so you don't need to take him off the 328 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: field and passes. Maybe he never missed a tackle in 329 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: his career and he just goes, just cleans things up 330 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: sideline the sideline. And along with that, kJ is six four, 331 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five pounds. He can rush, he 332 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: can cover, and he can tackle in space. And so 333 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: they play nickel seventy percent of the time. They don't 334 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: have to rotate guys in and out that much because 335 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: those guys can do all those things. And so I 336 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: think when Gus Bradley's defense operates at its optimum capacity, 337 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: you have two guys inside that can do that for you. 338 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: The Chargers are doing it differently because they don't have 339 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: those guys. So you're asking Adrian Phillips and Jalil to 340 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: go down in the box as smaller guys to do that, 341 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and the Patriots took advantage of that. Yeah, that Baltimore game, too, 342 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: is a brilliant game plan, but it was also out 343 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: of necessity too, as you mentioned. Finally, Eric, this weekend, 344 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers have seen all four of these teams. I 345 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: mean the Saints it was at the Jackhammered Sports Complex. 346 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: You play the Ramsler earlier in the year, Chiefs twice, obviously, 347 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 1: the Patriots last week. What are your prediction early impressions 348 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: of these matchups. Well, I think let's go asc first. Yeah, 349 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: it looks like weather's gonna be a little better than 350 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: predicted early on, so it might not be as much 351 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: of any better still, like fifteen degrees, it's pretty cold, 352 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: but I just think Patrick Mahomes is a different maker 353 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: because you can't really gain plan for what he's going 354 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: to do out there in terms of you know, minute 355 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: blate in the pocket, the all schedule plays, and just 356 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: the ability to make something out of nothing. Um, and 357 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: so I think that gives them an edge along with 358 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: playing in casey in the home crowd. I think that 359 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: we were there in December that Yeah, and so I 360 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: like their ability to um to create offense against the Patriots, 361 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: which I think is a good defense and obviously well coached. 362 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: But um, I like the Chiefs in that game. Um, 363 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: even though it's Tom Brady and everything that the Patriots 364 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: bring the table, you know that they're gonna be well coached, 365 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: they'll be prepared. I just I think Patrick Mahomes is 366 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: kind of the X factor in that game. Yeah. I 367 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: think home field is the is the X factor too. 368 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: It's just it's just history shows it. But I don't 369 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: know Patriots, you know, they're kind of prepared for all 370 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: that stuff. But but yeah, no doubt, history over time 371 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: shows that more times than not, the home team wins 372 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: that game in order to get the Super Bowl. Ye Um. 373 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: In the NFC, it's it's tough for me again to 374 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: go against Drew Brees and again being in that dome. 375 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: Have you been to his next level? I was there 376 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: for I went to a game a week one game, 377 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: uh like in twenty twelve. It's it's as advertised. Yeah, 378 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: it's one of the loudest buildings I've ever been in 379 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: for to cover a football game, particularly when the home 380 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: team is rolling and playing well. I mean, you feel 381 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: like the russ gonna come off. I mean it's just 382 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: it's just deafening in there. Um and then and then 383 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: adding the stakes, you know, NFC Championship game, that place 384 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: is gonna go next level. The intensite level is gonna 385 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: be You're gonna be able to feel it in the ability, 386 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be high. I think their defense, the Saints defense, 387 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: is maybe a little underrated in terms of what they 388 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: can do putting pressure on teams. Um, the Rams are 389 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: certainly gonna bring it there there. They probably have the 390 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: most talented roster out of those two teams, but they 391 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: also have a number of players that haven't been in 392 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: that situation before. And you have to like the players 393 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: that have been there to be able to handle it, 394 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: because the pressure can can get to players in those situations. 395 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: And Jared Coff. This will be his first time in 396 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: that in that environment. It might be pretty tough for him. Yeah, Eric, 397 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: it's been fun. Man. It's been a long season, but 398 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: it is amazing how kind of quickly things go by, 399 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: especially at the end. You've been awesome on the podcasts. 400 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: We'll probably see it the combine. I'm hoping so. And again, 401 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: I just think fans hey appreciate it. This was a 402 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: great season to watch you. You were entertained. Obviously the 403 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: Charges didn't get where they want to go, but they're 404 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: heading the right path and and we'll see what kind 405 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: of changes they make in the offseason and see if 406 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: they can get it going again. Yeah, man, thanks so much. Sure, 407 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. All right, please be joined by 408 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler of The Athletic as we shift our focus 409 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft and next week's Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. 410 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: And Dan, I tell you I have the pleasure of 411 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: working with Daniel Jeremiah. Between DJ and yourself, we got 412 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Chargers fans covered for the draft. Man, how are you. 413 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing well? Yeah, okay. DJ is one of the 414 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: best at doing this, and you know I always enjoy 415 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: when he and I have a chance to catch up 416 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: compare notes, and I just talked to him the end 417 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: of the day. We seem to see a lot of 418 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: these prospects the same, at least at the top. So 419 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: it's but it's gonna be a fun process because it's 420 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: exactly that the process. You know. It's still early. We 421 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: got to see your bowl to combine and a couple 422 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: of steps in between to try and differentiate these prospects 423 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: and separate them. So it should be a fun next 424 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: few months. Well, Dan, I bought your draft guide last year, 425 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and of course with all this stuff hindsight, it's always 426 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, right, But I wanted to see where you 427 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: had Derwin James, and he was your eighth overall prospect, 428 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: and I just want to read a few things that 429 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: really just rang so true this year. Position versatility with 430 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: experience at every position in the back seven, coachable, with 431 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: the mental alertness to execute well, liked by his teammates, 432 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: leading comes natural to him, competitive drive on the field 433 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: in the weight room, and one of the best blitzing 434 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: defensive backs to enter the league in recent memory. We 435 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: saw all of that. What was your take on how 436 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: Drwin played? Were you more surprised with how he played 437 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: or where he was drafted at number seventeen overall last year, well, 438 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: definitely the ladder. I'm still waiting for a valid reason 439 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: why he fell, so are you know, you hear little things, 440 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: but nothing that really made sense, because you know, it's 441 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: obvious how good of talented of a player that he is. 442 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: And that first part, the versatility, to me, that's what 443 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: really stood out when you watch him is because that's 444 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: that's the type of players that the NFL needs right now. 445 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: On defense, you know, the first of all guys that 446 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: can cover, They can you know, creep down in the 447 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: box where you know you have to worry about them 448 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: playing the run blitz. They can still drop cover wide receivers, 449 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: tight end, you know, can cover in the slot. Just 450 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: that versatility to stay on the field all three downs, 451 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: to interchangeably play single high, cover both sidelines, but also 452 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, work down towards a line of scrimmage. So 453 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: the guys that are versatile and can do all of 454 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: that and also have the intangibles that you're looking for 455 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: just in terms of being a good teammate and you know, 456 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: you know what kind of guy you're getting day in 457 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: day out. Derwin James that that kind of summed him up. 458 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: So just still surprised you fell so far, but hey, 459 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: it's a Chargers game, yeah, no doubt. And Darwin was 460 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: the Chargers leading tackler and just a leader from the beginning. 461 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: And you know, when we talk about this draft process, 462 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl really kind of the big first event 463 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: of this draft season. You had the East West Shrine 464 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: Game coming up this weekend. Explain what you're looking for 465 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: immobile and how it factors into your overall evaluation of 466 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: these players team. Well, it's always an important week because really, 467 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: when you think about it, it's the last time we 468 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: get to see these guys with in a football setting, 469 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, with pads on helmets, um, you know, on 470 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: a on a outdoor football fields. You won't get to 471 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: see them at combine and some workouts, but uh, you know, 472 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: those will be in T shirt and shorts, uh, you know, 473 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: and asks to be doing a lot of things that 474 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: aren't football related in terms of forty yard dash and 475 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: some of the other drills. But with at the Senior Bowl, 476 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: we're actually gonna get to see some pretty interesting one 477 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: on ones and some you know seven on sevens and 478 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: a lot of drills that help, uh, you know, really 479 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: evaluate the traits, evaluate them on a on the same 480 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: field where they're going up against some of the better 481 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: players around the country. It's always an important week in 482 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: terms of evaluation purposes, and really it's it should be 483 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: used as a way to cross check what you saw 484 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: and take during the season. Uh, you know, is he 485 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, for certain players, you have an opinion going 486 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: into the week. Does he changed your opinion at all? 487 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Is exactly what you thought? And if he does change 488 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: your opinion, then okay, time to go back to the 489 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: tape and figure out. Okay, you know he was a 490 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: little faster than I thought. What did I miss on tape? 491 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: And so it's one big cross checking exercise for me, 492 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: you know, just to see how these guys shape up. 493 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Eager to get the exact heights, weights, arm lengths, windspan, 494 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: hand side, that type of thing. Get the verified measurements 495 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: that will help quite a bit. And then it's always 496 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks. Eager to see Drew Lock, Daniel Jones. 497 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: They're on the same team, the North squad. It'll be 498 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: similar to last year when we had Baker Mayfield and 499 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen on the same team. So practice after practice, 500 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: we could see, you know, each we compare, compare each 501 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: throw that they make and get a really good chance 502 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: to kind of put them next to each other and 503 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: just to see how they do. So, Drew Lock Daniel Jones, 504 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: two potential top ten, top fifteen picks. It'll be good 505 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: to compare those guys one after the other. Yeah, I 506 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: was just gonna ask you, I think three of your 507 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: top five grade quarterbacks at this point are going to 508 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: be in Mobile. You talk about Daniel Jones from Duke, 509 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: Drew lockemis Will Greer from West Virginia. How do you 510 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: currently view each of these guys? I know you just 511 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: said Daniel Jones and Drew Locke could be you know, 512 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: top half of the first round, and how can they 513 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: help themselves here in Mobile? Well, and each one they 514 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: have different skill sets with what they do best. For 515 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, he's a very cerebral pastor, very accurate, and 516 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: so he doesn't have a power arm like a Drew 517 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: Locke does. But for him, it's just being efficient, you know, 518 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: showing that ball placement, showing him that quick minded approach 519 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: that he has, similar to Jimmy Garoppolo in that way. 520 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: So for Daniel Jones, it's just showing more of that. 521 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: For Drew Locke, it's all about touch and placement. You 522 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: know he has he might have a lot of Derek 523 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: Carr because he had a golden arm. He moves well. 524 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Good side mechanics are an issue and a lot of 525 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: times they'll throw off his accuracy deepall accuracy, intermediate touch. 526 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: So for Drew Locke, it's just all about being consistent. 527 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: And it can be tough in a setting like this 528 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: because you know, for except for Emmanuel Hall, who he 529 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: threw too at Missouri, he's going to be dealing with 530 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: all new wide receivers and so it can take a 531 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: little bit to develop that chemistry, develop that timing with 532 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: some of these routes and some of these receivers. You know, 533 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: they come in all different shapes and sizes, so that 534 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: that could take a little bit. And so I try 535 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: not to be too harsh on the quarterbacks on day 536 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: one of practice, but you want to see the progression 537 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: from practice one to two to three, just to see 538 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: them and prove take that pro coaching and get better. 539 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: And then for Will Greer, my biggest question with him, 540 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it'll be answered during the practice session, 541 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: because the biggest thing with him is just the overall 542 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: decision making and how pressure will really affect those decisions. 543 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: Un He'll make some beautiful throws, but in between those throws, 544 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: there's a couple of what was that type of cup 545 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: of decisions just where you know, he's throwing into pavy coverage, 546 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, not properly reading the defense. And I'm not 547 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: sure it's the practice will really help that. But still, nonethless, 548 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity for him to shine because you 549 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: know he's got a live arm and you know, we 550 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: know he can toss it from his days at West 551 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Virginia Dane. Last year, Coles linebacker Darius Leonard was in 552 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: Mobile and he's a small school guy who already and 553 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: All Pro, probably competing with Durwin for Rookie of the Year. 554 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Who's this year's Darius Leonard in Mobile? The top small 555 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: school player this year is Nastier Adderley, free safety from Delaware, who, 556 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: first of all, he had his Hall of Fame bloodliners 557 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: his cousin a couple of times removed his herb. Adderley, 558 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: who won a couple of Super Bowls of Packers, won 559 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: a few championships with the Cowboys in the sixties, so 560 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: he has the Hall of Fame bloodline. He is a 561 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: former corner, so he's got corner feet, moves well, but 562 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: he'll come up and hit you. He's a healthy run defender, 563 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: a really good kit. I really enjoyed my talks with 564 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: him throughout the fall, got a chance to kind of 565 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: sit down with him, go over the tape, and really 566 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: like what he has to offer. He he came in 567 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: at number twenty one overall on my draft board going 568 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: into the Senior Bowls, so I'm eager to see if 569 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: he can kind of live up to the high ranking 570 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: that I have him. He's hating my top safety this year, 571 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: so we'll see if he lives up to that. Because 572 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: you know he's a he's a really good player, but 573 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: you know he's going to be expected to step up 574 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: and play with all the FBS athletes and not look 575 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: like he's out of place at all. So big week 576 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: for him to see how he performs. But you know, 577 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: there's always a couple of small school guys that stand out. 578 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Jordan Brown from South Dakota State at the corner. Eager 579 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: to see how he does. The number two small school 580 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: player in this draft behind Adder least probably Titus Howard, 581 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Alabama State. They played Auburn earlier 582 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: this year and he held his own. He did a 583 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: nice job. He's a former tight end who kind of 584 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: overgrew the position and developed and do a pretty solid tackle. 585 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: So I think Titus Howard, uh, you know, could cement 586 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: his status a Day two pick if he has a 587 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: strong week in Mobile. So those are a couple of 588 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: names of some smaller school guys under the radar, guys 589 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: who have a chance to make a big impact next week. 590 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Let's shift to the O line because I think it 591 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: could be a position group the Chargers could home in 592 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: on during the draft. At some point, Yanni could just 593 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: from West Virginia, Dalton Riser, Kansas State. Both of those 594 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: guys look like they can come right away and make 595 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: an impact. Anybody else in that O line group that 596 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: you're looking at. I think the top offensive lineman who 597 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: will be at the Senior Bowl is Andre Dillard, the 598 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: offensive tackles from Washington State who he played left tackle 599 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: in that offense. But with the wide splits and the 600 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: way that offense is designed to get the ball out quick, 601 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: it could be tough to fully evaluate him. So eager 602 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: to see Andre Dillard at the Senior Bowl. Six five, 603 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: two hundred ninety pounds. I'm eager to see what that 604 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: length is, just how long his arms are. Having questions there, 605 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: but either natural pass protector, balanced feet. You see the 606 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: body flexibility where he can mirror different types of rushers. 607 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: He has some upper body strength and where he can 608 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: control the edge and sustain it. Has an aggressive reach, 609 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: but he's well timed as well. He doesn't over exert 610 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: himself and so he moves moves well on the run 611 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: or at the pooler in the run game. So there's 612 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot to like about the full skill set, just 613 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: about translating from that Washington State offense to mobile and 614 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: more pro style look. And so I'm looking for Andre 615 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Dillard to have a big week. I think he could 616 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: cement himself as a first round kick. If you're looking 617 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: for d lineman, I think this is the draft for you. 618 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: It's loaded at D line. I know there's a lot 619 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: of underclassmen that won't be a mobile What about at 620 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl? Who are you looking at it on 621 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the D line? You're right, it's a loaded group, a 622 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: defensive line, you know, especially with all the juniors that 623 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: came out, but the senior class has quite a few 624 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: as well in terms of the edge guys and passed rushers. 625 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: I think Montes Sweat from Miss State is probably the 626 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: highest graded player in mobile at least on my board. 627 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: Former Michigan State tight end moving to defensive end when 628 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: the juco goes to Missisipy State the last two years 629 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: and had double digit sacks both years. Really played well 630 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: in the SEC. Big, well, should say tall, long, but 631 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the traditional bulk, so I'm eager to 632 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: see him during way and see how he looks. Does 633 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: he have more room to add some bulk to his 634 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: frame or is he tapped out? He uses those long 635 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: strides as long arms, so just bend the edge. It 636 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: became a much better run defender. Yeah, run defender as 637 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: well his senior year, so I think more of an 638 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: all around player who three four teams or three teams. 639 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: They'll both be interested in months as Sweat. DeAndre Walker 640 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: from Georgia oshan exeminees from Old Dominion. A late ad 641 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: was Anthony Nelson defensive end from Iowa who's at Red 642 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Shirt junior. But because he's a graduate, he is eligible 643 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: for this game as power power player. Loved to use 644 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: that length, heavy hands, beat up tackles, so the defensive 645 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: end group definitely has a locked offer. Then the tackles 646 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: the same type of deal. I think inside you look 647 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: at Gerald Willis the quick footed pass rusher from Miami. 648 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: His ability to infiltrate gaps, get inside, distruct the backfield. 649 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah Bug at Alabama versatile guy, played defensive end head 650 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: up over the offensive tackles, sometimes on the shoulder at 651 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Alabama and their three four base, But I think you 652 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: could play him as a shaded nose. You could play 653 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: him a three technique. A lot of things you could 654 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: do with Isaiah Bug. Ending that versatility, will Will kind 655 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: of be key to his draft. Grady eager to see 656 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: him in Mobile to see where exactly they play him. 657 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: And then Kaylin Saunders from Western Illinois probably the third 658 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: small school guy on my board, with Adderley being one, 659 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Titus Howard two, and then Saunders three. Just a nimble, 660 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: agile footed big man, carries his weight well. Eager to 661 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: see how he stacks up against some better blockers this week. 662 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Dane the linebacker position for the Chargers really got hit 663 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: hard by injuries. Kaiser White, who was at the Senior 664 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: Bowl last year earned a starting position, got hurt early 665 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: in the year. Denzel Perium and j Tavis Brown. The 666 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: Chargers could be looking to further bolster that linebacking corps 667 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: last position group. I want to ask about his linebackers 668 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: and mobile. Who were we keeping eyes on. Jermaine Pratt 669 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: from NC State, former safety who bulked up and now 670 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: a linebacker. Really loves to play, personality, the aggression that 671 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: he plays with, good speed, good toughness at the point 672 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: of attack. In my opinion, he's the top linebacker that 673 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: will be immobile. And then you've got to Von Koni 674 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame more of a Sam style linebacker. I 675 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: don't know if I trust him in coverage, but really 676 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: alert first to run, puts himself in good position to 677 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: make plays, good pursued angles. Abioka Reki from Stanford, twitched 678 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: up athlete who loved the aggression that he plays with 679 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: the whole fly around the field and make plays. He 680 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: needs to get better with the take on skills to 681 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: shed blocks and you know, not allowed blockers to dick 682 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: to hate where he ends up. But I think he's 683 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: a good athlete and that should show this week. But 684 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not a great class of linebackers 685 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: this year, but it's solid. I think, you know some 686 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: guys in the middle rounds to keep an eye on. 687 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: Terrell Hanks from New Mexico State, David Long from West Virginia, 688 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: another junior who graduated is getting a call up. So 689 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: a solid group of linebackers. Not spectacular, but it might 690 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: be able to find some good value in the third 691 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: fourth round. Dan, I tell you I look at last 692 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: year in the way the Chargers drafted, and I've talked 693 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: to Tom to let's go about this. You don't draft 694 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: him just because they go to the Senior Bowl. But 695 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: after Derwin who we mentioned you, Chenna Nwosu, Justin Jones, 696 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: Kaiser White, Scott Quisenberry, all of these guys were Senior 697 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: Bowl guys. Michael Badgeley who came up clutch for the Chargers. 698 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: What is it about this game? Is it just the 699 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: fact that these guys are for your players in large 700 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: part leaders in their programs that could translate to the NFL. Yeah, 701 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: it's it's an opportunity you kind of these guys are 702 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: used to playing in front of you know pack stands 703 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: that you know, big time programs, but this is a 704 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: different animal because you know they're coming to Mobile and 705 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: playing at lot of people stadium with pack stand that 706 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: are just hundreds and hundreds of NFL coaches, scouts, general managers, 707 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: personnel people, um. And so it could be a little 708 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: intimidating when you know you're kind of thrown in the 709 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: mix going up against guys you've never really played with 710 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: before and you're doing one on one where there's nowhere 711 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: to hide. You know, there's you kind of have to 712 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: you have to show up. And so it's something that 713 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: is a unique opportunity that if you take advantage of it, uh, 714 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have teams kind of fall in 715 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: love with what you can do. And it could be 716 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: maybe a tiebreaker before between you if if a team 717 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: has a Senior Bowl guy and another guy closely rated, 718 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: it could be a tiebreaker because subconsciously, you know, these 719 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: personnels the decision makers are thinking, well, you know, we 720 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: got a chance to see him up close and personal 721 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and he really handled himself. Well, um, 722 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's a good chance for with teams to 723 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: perform interviews with these guys get to know him better. 724 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: So it's just it's a unique opportunity that did you 725 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: figure out this combine. There's the triple amount of players, 726 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: So if you don't have as much access to these 727 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: guys with the interviews, you don't have as much you know, 728 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: one on one time and as you do with a 729 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. And like I said, it's the final time 730 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: we get to see these guy in a foot true 731 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: football setting pads on, helmet on, and you know, doing 732 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: performing football drills. And it's so it's kind of that 733 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: lasting impact that you can make. And so for a 734 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: lot of these guys that certainly helps them. Uh. And 735 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of teams that take a 736 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: lot of value in them. Yeah, when I say Senior 737 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: Bowl in the game, it's less about the game. It's 738 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: more about just the practices and everything that goes on 739 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week. Like you said, the interviews, 740 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: the one on ones, all the drills throughout the week, 741 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: and the stands are packed for those practices just as 742 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: much as the game. We're looking forward to getting down 743 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: to Mobile. Dane. You do awesome work, man. I can't 744 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: thank you enough for your time I know this is 745 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: the busiest time of year for you. I look forward 746 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: to seeing you a mobile man, So I'm good. Thanks Chris, 747 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it. My thanks to Dan 748 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: Brugler and Eric Williams for joining me, and of course 749 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: thanks to you all for listening. Don't forget. If you 750 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: like what you here, be sure to give us a 751 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Please help spread the work. 752 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: We'll be with you each Thursday throughout the offseason, and 753 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: next week we'll be on location at the Senior Bowl 754 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: and Mobile and the Pro Bowl in Orlando. Enjoy the 755 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: weekend and until next time, I'm Chris Harry