Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
Speaker 1: When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come
Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're presences.
Speaker 2: Presence, and.
Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do.
Speaker 3: You dare to surbey me?
Speaker 4: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I
Speaker 4: hope you're not at a low I hope that you're not,
Speaker 4: you know, stuck in the middle of a divorce battle
Speaker 4: or something. I hope you're having a decent day. I
Speaker 4: just went and got coffee. On the way back, I noticed, well,
Speaker 4: it was probably ten pounds of tuna fish a can,
Speaker 4: just splattered all across the road. If you hurry, you
Speaker 4: could probably it'll probably be fine. You could get it.
Speaker 4: It's on Townsend Avenue, right before the Christian coffee shop,
Speaker 4: so be on the lookout. But hurry. You know, tuna
Speaker 4: can only last so long. Who cares. Let's talk to
Speaker 4: our guests. Our guest is so fantastic. It's Zany Nab Johnson.
Speaker 4: It's a Nab. Welcome to, I said, no gifts.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4: Oh, of course, of course, it's this is what I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say right off the bat, Okay, I'm out of
Speaker 4: summer outfits. Okay, it's October when we're recording this. It's
Speaker 4: ninety degrees. Yes, I've been wearing summer outfits since who
Speaker 4: knows when. At this point, I'm ready to wear a
Speaker 4: long sleeve shirt. Yeah, how are you feeling? You look
Speaker 4: very summary, Thank you.
Speaker 5: And I am tired of wearing summer outfits as well.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a New Yorker.
Speaker 5: Oh, and so I jump at the opportunity to put
Speaker 5: on a black turtleneck.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's just heaven for me.
Speaker 5: And I was in I was doing a show the
Speaker 5: other day in San Francisco, and I was able to
Speaker 5: break out the black turtle.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So you know, today is an unusually like an unusually unusual.
Speaker 4: I think I liked unusually believe. I think we should
Speaker 4: we need to put that in the lexicon. Actually, that
Speaker 4: rolls right off the tongue.
Speaker 3: Unusual ably unusually warm day.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's the sort of warm where you just
Speaker 4: feel like you feel like you can pass through. It's
Speaker 4: like a physical The air is solid. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm in a wall or something hiding in the attic.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and last week it was nice.
Speaker 3: It was nice.
Speaker 4: Now it's horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like dead of summer weather.
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like about like July twenty ninth. Yes,
Speaker 4: and it does a lot the brain. Yeah, it does
Speaker 4: a lot to my brain at least. But I have
Speaker 4: the windows open and my house feels perfectly fine.
Speaker 3: Interesting, isn't that strange.
Speaker 4: Because throughout the summer we have to have the windows sealed,
Speaker 4: AC on. Yeah, my house is perfectly pleasant right now.
Speaker 4: Or maybe I have just my standards of lowered.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: You know, I was in an Uber when this is Sorry,
Speaker 5: this might sound like a shift, but it's not. Because
Speaker 5: I am the type of person that will have the
Speaker 5: cooling air on as well as the windows open, because
Speaker 5: I love fresh air, even if it's not moving. I
Speaker 5: just want to know I have access to it, right,
Speaker 5: But then I'll.
Speaker 3: Turn on like the AC or central cooling just to
Speaker 3: cool things off.
Speaker 5: Sure, And when I was in an Uber, I requested
Speaker 5: that the AC stay on, but then I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna roll down the window and the Uber driver
Speaker 5: got really upset with me, and I, you know, I
Speaker 5: feel like the ride share relationship is reciprocal, you know,
Speaker 5: it has to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, unless is there something I
Speaker 5: was trying to figure it out. I was like, is
Speaker 5: this something wrong with your windows? Like well, you know,
Speaker 5: like why don't you want me to have what I want?
Speaker 5: And he was like, oh, you know that ruins your car?
Speaker 4: Ruins?
Speaker 3: And I was I know so little about cars.
Speaker 5: I drive a Tesla and someone had to tell me
Speaker 5: that I could access the radio.
Speaker 4: Did you think that, like radio was just not part
Speaker 4: of the futuristic pasta.
Speaker 5: I just thought that that was because I didn't see it.
Speaker 5: It's it wasn't there and available to me. So when
Speaker 5: this the person was wildly disappointed in my ignorance, but he.
Speaker 4: Like, you believed him in the moment that this could
Speaker 4: ruin the car?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I believed him and he kind of explained
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 5: He was like, something happened, like it won't ruin the car,
Speaker 5: but it will ruin your cooling system because.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I don't know, there's no way. That's maybe
Speaker 4: if you did it for two hundred years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and who has a car for two hundred years now?
Speaker 6: He's full of Shit's got the notes? It says it's
Speaker 6: not harmful to the car, just wasteful of fuel. So
Speaker 6: that sounds like, sounds like it's a hymn problem.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's an old wives tale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like a frugal uber driver.
Speaker 4: And we can't blame anybody. We're all trying to pinch
Speaker 4: pennies where we can.
Speaker 5: Sounds like I'm gonna have to go back and look
Speaker 5: at my ride history and change that rating.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Speaker 4: You are a vengeful person. Wow, So what ended up happening?
Speaker 4: You just got the AC That's all he put along.
Speaker 5: I think I was pleasant enough for him to roll
Speaker 5: the window down a little bit for a little while,
Speaker 5: and I think he kept checking with me. He was like,
Speaker 5: it was a pretty long ride because I'm in New York.
Speaker 5: There's traffic, okay. So after a few minutes he was like,
Speaker 5: you still want it down, and maybe after about three
Speaker 5: check ins, I'm like, okay, you know, you go roll
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 3: It's fine.
Speaker 4: Three checks This is a lot. That's where you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: you really hate this.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what, let me you you let
Speaker 5: me have what I wanted for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I'll oblige you.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's eco conscious.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I'm fighting for this guy now. I'm totally on his side.
Speaker 5: But you know what, when you're getting like on and
Speaker 5: off flights and things, all you want, like you you
Speaker 5: do want a comfortable temperature setting, but for some reason
Speaker 5: you want air because when you're in an airpool and
Speaker 5: you're in a flight, the air feels so artificial, it
Speaker 5: feels so stale.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, so you should be able to crack
Speaker 4: the window whenever you want. Yeah, just a little bit
Speaker 4: of outside let it in. Everybody appreciates that. For a
Speaker 4: minute you're on the freeway or something exactly. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you had your window roaring during the freeway, I
Speaker 4: can see the real problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I was wondering with my car
Speaker 4: air conditioning recently, is you know the foot feature? You know,
Speaker 4: it's like you have feet or the face. The feet
Speaker 4: thing never does anything for me. Do you have that?
Speaker 4: I why not just have it directly on my torso
Speaker 4: and face?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: So the only time, okay, when I prefer the air
Speaker 5: blowing towards my feet is when it's when I need
Speaker 5: the heating.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It's something about just warm.
Speaker 4: Toe's like it's like a head floor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna get there, you know, like it's comforting
Speaker 5: and you know, but when it's cold, when i'm when
Speaker 5: it's cold air, the only time I move it from
Speaker 5: my face is like if I just got my hair
Speaker 5: done and it's so flowy that it can't really stand like.
Speaker 3: Much air pressure.
Speaker 5: So it's like we're not trying to seem like we're
Speaker 5: in a tornado, you know, Like, so I have to
Speaker 5: like move it, although I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Right, that makes sense As a short haired person, I
Speaker 4: guess this just never crosses my mind. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: just the short hair privilege or something. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 4: the foot thing I'm wondering, are my legs not are
Speaker 4: the nerves and some sort of nervous system problem?
Speaker 5: What about do you have on pants or shorts? Because
Speaker 5: I feel like you'd feel it immediately if you have
Speaker 5: on shorts.
Speaker 4: Feeling nothing, you're feeling feeling nothing, Or maybe my legs
Speaker 4: just need to be really cold. Maybe yeah, maybe it's
Speaker 4: an incredible question I'm asking.
Speaker 5: So cold air is coming out towards your legs and feet,
Speaker 5: I'm like, wait a minute, investigative refers, and you're not
Speaker 5: feeling anything.
Speaker 4: As far as I know, or maybe it's mental. Maybe
Speaker 4: I'm just like the immediacy of it coming towards my
Speaker 4: upper body is like, I don't know, Maybe I need
Speaker 4: to do some testing. Yeah, do some real research with this. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But cold air falls, so I feel like having it.
Speaker 4: That's true, right, because hot rises.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You're looking at me like I'm a complete moron. No.
Speaker 5: When you said no, no, no, when you said cold
Speaker 5: air falls, all I thought was, well, heat rises, that's
Speaker 5: all good.
Speaker 4: So you're confirming my scientific knowledge.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: So I feel like it coming towards my body. It's
Speaker 4: like that's enough the waterfall. It's coming down to the feet.
Speaker 4: But I am going to leave it on just my
Speaker 4: feet for maybe an hour today. Well, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: be driving for an hour. Where am I going Palm springs? Uh?
Speaker 4: My ten minute trip to the grocery store. No, Torso
Speaker 4: simply the feet, the.
Speaker 3: Feet, and see if you feel it.
Speaker 5: If you don't feel it, we gotta we gotta get
Speaker 5: you to a.
Speaker 4: Sort of doctor. Do I seek? Is that a physiologist?
Speaker 4: Is that it orthopedic doctors?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say orthopedic because it's not bones or or muscle.
Speaker 5: It would be nerves.
Speaker 4: It would be like spinal doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nerve I'm looking.
Speaker 4: Like yougis oh yeah, that's a good that's a good job. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like I still a neurologists and to see if
Speaker 5: I had some nerve damage, and I it always feels
Speaker 5: much more thorough than any other doctors.
Speaker 4: What do they do. I'm so curious. I've never been
Speaker 4: to one.
Speaker 5: It depends, but sometimes they can like attach sensors to
Speaker 5: whatever part of your body that they're trying to test,
Speaker 5: and then they send the electro oh like kind of
Speaker 5: like shots right right, if you know, if it's picking up.
Speaker 5: I had years ago, I was in a I was
Speaker 5: hit by a truck. I was gonna say I was
Speaker 5: in a really bad car accident, but I wasn't in
Speaker 5: a car, but I while I was in a hospital,
Speaker 5: the neurologists took needles, really long thin needles, and stuck
Speaker 5: them in certain places and then sent the electro yeah
Speaker 5: through those needles to see, like, you know what part
Speaker 5: of my yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah wow. And I assume you felt it in some places.
Speaker 5: I did in some places. I felt it in a
Speaker 5: different place.
Speaker 3: In my body.
Speaker 4: Fascinating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like he might have done it in like my hip,
Speaker 5: but then I felt it like near my shin.
Speaker 4: That's almost like psychic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody gives you no information.
Speaker 5: Except that better be real comfortable in life when I
Speaker 5: hit sixty two because it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 4: That's enough for a psychic revelation. Yeah. Maybe I'll go
Speaker 4: to a neurologists just as a little experience at some point,
Speaker 4: just waste a neurologists' time.
Speaker 3: I think they'll love it.
Speaker 5: I think if you go to a neurologist and say, listen,
Speaker 5: I got the ac or my car blasting on my
Speaker 5: legs at sixty one degrees for solid ten minutes and
Speaker 5: I feel nothing, the neurologist is going to say, I'm
Speaker 5: happy you came in today.
Speaker 4: Neurologists is the job. In middle school I told everyone
Speaker 4: was going to because I was too ashamed to say
Speaker 4: I wanted to do whatever this is really and there's
Speaker 4: no chance I was not on the path to neurology.
Speaker 4: What are we talking about? I mean I was done
Speaker 4: with science and math in eleventh grade. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: forget it. So people probably saw through it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it it is inspiring, like when you hear
Speaker 5: a little kid, it's like I want to be a
Speaker 5: because I mean neurologists. How many syllables is that? Even
Speaker 5: just a word is ambitious to say, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: going to be a neurologist, just.
Speaker 4: Like luck baby.
Speaker 5: If you believe in them, it's like that's really promising.
Speaker 5: And if you don't believe in them, it's so cute.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I's like they don't know.
Speaker 4: Yet, right, It's like I'm gonna be a fairy princess
Speaker 4: or something. What temperature are you keeping on in the car?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just keep talking about temperature because I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm bad with temperature.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm bad with temperature, but I
Speaker 5: need to bring it to a balance. I'm a room
Speaker 5: temperature type of person. Okay, so I'm only doing whatever
Speaker 5: is necessary to get it to room temperature. So if
Speaker 5: it's ninety degrees outside, then I got to turn on
Speaker 5: cold air, and then the moment it gets too cold,
Speaker 5: I gotta.
Speaker 3: Shut it off.
Speaker 4: But let's say, what cold are you going to?
Speaker 3: I'm sixty is the lowest that my car will.
Speaker 4: Be, But you're going all the way to six.
Speaker 3: I'm going all the way to sixty because okay.
Speaker 4: Oh, now I feel very strange.
Speaker 3: Wait, what kind of car do you drive?
Speaker 4: I drive an electric Hyundai.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the thing about the Tesla is, you know,
Speaker 3: the top is all like glass.
Speaker 5: Oh, and so it takes on in the most disrespectful
Speaker 5: way the temperature out the greenhouse it is, you know,
Speaker 5: and think, I think that it is the only downside
Speaker 5: to that vehicle.
Speaker 4: So far that it's like a very obvious flaw.
Speaker 5: So it's yeah, and so you have to like the
Speaker 5: car thinks that it's so smart that even if I
Speaker 5: try and put it on like seventy, it's like, no,
Speaker 5: I need to I know, you think that's okay, but
Speaker 5: I got to take care of myself.
Speaker 3: So the car will try and regulate its.
Speaker 4: Own temperature, right, you know, right, And so it's heading
Speaker 4: down to six, so.
Speaker 5: It goes down to sixty and then it does a
Speaker 5: good job. It does it very fast. But then I
Speaker 5: get too cold.
Speaker 4: M Oh, this is nice there for me. You don't
Speaker 4: get the flu or something.
Speaker 5: No, because I have the windows down, you know, and
Speaker 5: just thinking about my uba drive like just anxious, like.
Speaker 3: He told me, this is terrible.
Speaker 4: I should not have come to you with these questions.
Speaker 4: It's mayhem with you. The temperatures are all over the place,
Speaker 4: the windows are open, the sun is beating down. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's They should have like an umbrella for the Tesla.
Speaker 4: That feels like a good invention. Yeah, I mean umbrella
Speaker 4: that sits on top of the car.
Speaker 3: A nice a nice rainbow one.
Speaker 4: I feel like people would get into that.
Speaker 5: I would hate that.
Speaker 4: You say it now, I'd appreciate.
Speaker 3: Its function, but I'd hate the way it looks.
Speaker 4: How about like one that matches the color of the car.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 5: So this is the thing, This is what the car
Speaker 5: offers that I never take advantage of.
Speaker 3: And this is not a commercial for Tesla. Forgive me.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. I'm You're just winked at me.
Speaker 3: Let's get a sponsor.
Speaker 5: So you can, of course control the car from your
Speaker 5: phone anywhere in the world.
Speaker 3: Right, Like if I.
Speaker 5: Left my car here and then had to go away
Speaker 5: and you were like, hey, Zaynab, I need to move
Speaker 5: your car, I could just give you access through my
Speaker 5: phone and then you just drive my car.
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's wonderful. It's convenient.
Speaker 4: That's incredibly convenient.
Speaker 5: And so they have this function in the Tesla app
Speaker 5: where you can cool off your car before you get in.
Speaker 4: Right, I have this. I know I don't have a
Speaker 4: fancy enough to let people just go driving whenever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I can make you an authorized user and
Speaker 5: all you would need is your phone.
Speaker 4: You've got to let me be an authorized user.
Speaker 3: Just in case.
Speaker 5: It's like I have I have a year from now,
Speaker 5: I have roadside trouble and I'm like, Fridger, are you available?
Speaker 4: I would be there in an instant. I wouldn't think
Speaker 4: for a second.
Speaker 3: Are your legs working?
Speaker 4: I would be headed over. So just keep me in mind,
Speaker 4: That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 5: But I forget to do that until I get in
Speaker 5: the car, and I'm like, why didn't Right, It's.
Speaker 3: Ninety seven degrees in his car? Why didn't I do that?
Speaker 4: Right? You should treat yourself every once in a while.
Speaker 4: It's like having a little person there just waiting for
Speaker 4: you with the cool air on, little ghosts or something
Speaker 4: sounds so lovely.
Speaker 5: Tiny angels with spray bottles and fans.
Speaker 4: Now with that other feature, have you given that access
Speaker 4: to anybody so that they can drive your car? Yes?
Speaker 4: My sister, and has she taken advantage of it?
Speaker 5: She's driven it, but she hasn't. I wouldn't say she's
Speaker 5: taken advantage of it, Okay, okay, but but I will
Speaker 5: say that she was driving it. When I returned home
Speaker 5: from like a work trip.
Speaker 4: Oh interesting.
Speaker 5: And when I when the uber dropped me off at
Speaker 5: my house and my car wasn't in the driveway, I
Speaker 5: did feel away.
Speaker 3: Right, and I knew I wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 5: This was like one of those trips work trips where
Speaker 5: I was in five different states in five different days,
Speaker 5: and so I knew when I got home, I was
Speaker 5: gonna postmate some food and then crash on a couch
Speaker 5: for seventeen hours, right, right. But something about not seeing
Speaker 5: my car there made me feel restricted.
Speaker 4: It's unsettling. Yeah, you need to know you can go exactly,
Speaker 4: it's all you need exactly. Yeah, now you're just trapped
Speaker 4: at home. Yeah that seems bad to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And so I texted my sister and I was like, hey,
Speaker 5: how long will you be? And she was like, oh,
Speaker 5: did you have somewhere to go?
Speaker 3: And I was like no. She's like, okay, did you
Speaker 3: need something? And I was like no.
Speaker 4: But no, I totally get that feeling. My boyfriend is
Speaker 4: living in New York right now, so he got rid
Speaker 4: of his car, and so for like two days he
Speaker 4: needed to use my car. But there were times where
Speaker 4: it's like, I just need you can't drive it for
Speaker 4: these hours. I'm not going anywhere, but what if I
Speaker 4: have an idea. Yeah, it's just the mere thought of
Speaker 4: him being out gallivanting and I want to go to
Speaker 4: Target for no reason.
Speaker 3: Target is my favorite place?
Speaker 4: Is it reasonly?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel like it's the uh.
Speaker 5: I don't know about guys, but I feel like the lady,
Speaker 5: the thirty five year old lady, Like that's how Disneyland like, Yo,
Speaker 5: I'm never bored. If Target is open, then I'm never bored.
Speaker 5: I always got something. When the pandemic, everything's shut down,
Speaker 5: maybe like a week or two weeks into it, when
Speaker 5: Targets sent out their email like hey, we have reduced hours,
Speaker 5: but we're opening up, I.
Speaker 3: Said, I got to go. I gotta go.
Speaker 4: I am literally right there with you. I was in line.
Speaker 4: I was ready to do some at least minor wandering.
Speaker 4: I had to just look at objects and feel kind
Speaker 4: of normal.
Speaker 5: I'm like, let me read these greeting cards, what's new
Speaker 5: in the Mahogany collection.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a thing to do. It's a nice
Speaker 4: time killer.
Speaker 5: It is, and it's it's always laid out, so, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know where this came from.
Speaker 5: Again, I'm from New York City and we didn't grow
Speaker 5: up I didn't grow up with stores like this. It
Speaker 5: took me moving to LA to have gone to a
Speaker 5: Walmart for the first time in my life, right, And
Speaker 5: so I don't know.
Speaker 3: Target is like, that's that's my chance.
Speaker 4: There's a novelty and a freedom, and you're just like
Speaker 4: the space. Yeah yeah, I mean, and the Targets in
Speaker 4: New York don't do this same thing.
Speaker 3: I don't even think I've ever been.
Speaker 4: They're you know, they're like every big New York store.
Speaker 4: They're not big. Yeah, it's not that like, oh I'm
Speaker 4: in the middle of a field, but no, I'm actually
Speaker 4: in the serial eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your close close quarters. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm a very I love Target. It's my museum.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like to just wander and look at things same frequently,
Speaker 4: don't buy anything, which I think is crossing a line. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's still a good time, Do you always leave
Speaker 4: with something?
Speaker 5: I would say yes, I think that if ever I
Speaker 5: have not left, I go in not thinking I need anything,
Speaker 5: you know, just waiting for something to jump out at me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to Target for inspiration.
Speaker 5: But if I don't leave with something from Target, then
Speaker 5: something's not right in the world, right, because you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's possibility.
Speaker 4: It means that kind of your anchor has failed you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and maybe your loss, maybe Target's lost.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I leave with things I know I'm going to return.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that feeling, you know, like, yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm going to buy this breadmaker today because I was
Speaker 5: feeling ambitious.
Speaker 3: But then tomorrow reality will set in.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just need to get it home now the
Speaker 4: feeling is gone. Yeah, and I can take it back.
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it doesn't even come out in my car, and
Speaker 5: that's when I know, like, oh, you never planned on
Speaker 5: using this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a mistake. That's just an absolute
Speaker 4: mistake to be driving around with something that you need
Speaker 4: to return. Yeah. I've had some T shirts in my
Speaker 4: car for a week that have to go back. I
Speaker 4: can't bring myself to the Whole Foods to drop them off.
Speaker 4: So it's just always in the back of my mind.
Speaker 4: I've got to get rid of it. It's taking up
Speaker 4: brain energy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how, like, okay, this is the last
Speaker 5: thing I'll say about. Sorry, there's how much I love try.
Speaker 5: You know how target offers like they can just bring
Speaker 5: it out to your car, right, I never choose that
Speaker 5: app Okay, I was about to feel very betrayed.
Speaker 3: Ever, I gotta go in.
Speaker 5: What thank you? So I came all the way here
Speaker 5: and did it? See my best friend?
Speaker 4: What? No? A thousand percent agree, there's no question I'm
Speaker 4: going into the store. Yes. Actually, I wouldn't even like
Speaker 4: if they had piled the things up for me to take.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't want that. I want to go on the journey.
Speaker 5: Yes, you just want to put it in my trunk.
Speaker 5: You don't want any interaction?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, where's the joy? No? I mean we
Speaker 4: have a very similar target mindset. It's shocking to me
Speaker 4: we've never run into each other at a target.
Speaker 3: Which targets do you go to?
Speaker 4: If there's a target I see, I'll go in it.
Speaker 4: But my local targets are the Eagle Rock, Glendale. Okay,
Speaker 4: Occasionally I'll get into the Alhambra or Pasadena. Okay, used
Speaker 4: to be the one on Los Sienaga. Do you know
Speaker 4: this one which one moved to La. It's Loscienaga, near
Speaker 4: a giant seas candy factory.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's the target.
Speaker 4: I go there, that's yours.
Speaker 3: That's my target. Now.
Speaker 5: I used to always go to cause that's like south,
Speaker 5: that's like I don't know, in.
Speaker 3: Between here and airport right exactly.
Speaker 5: But when I lived in Hollywood, my target used to
Speaker 5: be uh, Santa Monica and Librea.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't like that one, Okay, No, I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 4: it's fine, it's okay. No, I'm thinking about the one
Speaker 4: on the West Hollywood that's in a nightmare zone. Who
Speaker 4: knows that sees candy factory things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: When I first moved to LA, I applied for a
Speaker 4: job working there. It's like their warehouse. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: handed the application to a woman who's probably in her
Speaker 4: seventies and she said, can you lift a box over
Speaker 4: fifty pounds? And I said yes, and she just shook
Speaker 4: her head. I did not get the job. This is horrifying.
Speaker 4: And you know she's lifting all these boxes, so she's like,
Speaker 4: no way, child. That will stick in my mind forever.
Speaker 5: But you know, I love that when someone knows us
Speaker 5: better than we know, like they know our reality. Way
Speaker 5: back when when I first started doing stand up, I
Speaker 5: was like, okay, in order for me, like, I know,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to make enough money at first, so
Speaker 5: I need to work for an airline.
Speaker 3: That way, any comedian that wants me to like.
Speaker 5: Feature for them on the road, I'll have like a flight,
Speaker 5: you know, like I won't have to pay for the fight.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So I go to Delta, I apply to be a
Speaker 5: flight attendant, right, and because I'm like, I'm gonna work
Speaker 5: for the airline, but like I.
Speaker 3: Want the glamorous.
Speaker 5: Right. Of course, it's like it's too late to be
Speaker 5: a pilot, so let me be a flight attendant, right.
Speaker 5: And they fly you to Atlanta, their hub, and they
Speaker 5: have this whole like flight attendant school. What in Atlanta?
Speaker 5: They put you on a whole time, I mean everything,
Speaker 5: they take care of it. This is like this is
Speaker 5: like an old expense paid job interview, right, And you
Speaker 5: go through this training and then at some point you
Speaker 5: have to get up and make the announcements like the
Speaker 5: you know, the emergency, you know you got to like
Speaker 5: talk to and they don't tell you what to say.
Speaker 3: Oh, they don't give you a threat, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that was my opportunity because well I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: I've been on enough planes to know what you have
Speaker 5: to say. I was like, but I'm a comedian. I'm
Speaker 5: a new comedian. Oh this is you know new comedians
Speaker 5: think every time you're but yeah, I'm like, ooh, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna make these people. We don't know if you're gonna
Speaker 5: get the job, but you're gonna laugh today.
Speaker 3: Right after you do all of that, they give you
Speaker 3: no critique.
Speaker 5: Like in the moment in front of your audience, they
Speaker 5: bring you into the room one by one to let
Speaker 5: you know if you're going forward or if they're putting
Speaker 5: you on a flight back home. Right, And this lovely woman,
Speaker 5: she says, what are you doing? And I said, I'm
Speaker 5: trying to be a flight attendant.
Speaker 3: And she said, but what do you what do you do?
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing in life?
Speaker 5: And I said, oh, well, I just started comedy and
Speaker 5: I really love it. And you know, I'm a stand
Speaker 5: up comedian. But don't worry, Like when I'm on Delta's time,
Speaker 5: I'll be on Delta's time, you know, like really trying to.
Speaker 3: Bring it home. And she said, listen, I want you
Speaker 3: to follow your dream. And I was like, okay, oh no.
Speaker 5: She said, yeah, I want you to leave here and
Speaker 5: I want you to follow your dream.
Speaker 4: Your first fan. That's incredible.
Speaker 5: And I was like a little bit pistol. I was like, lady,
Speaker 5: this is a part of me following my dream.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of.
Speaker 4: I need free flights.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I got what she was saying, right of course,
Speaker 5: like this could be a massive detour in your life, right, and.
Speaker 3: You need to be very direct on his pet. That's
Speaker 3: how I took it.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of situations i'd be like, oh,
Speaker 4: she's making an excuse because she doesn't want to hire you.
Speaker 4: But I feel like being a flight attendant takes over
Speaker 4: your life. Yeah, you're like in every time zone, You're
Speaker 4: staying in different cities all the time. I think it
Speaker 4: may have ruined your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, people loving flight attendants, but I
Speaker 4: don't think it was for you.
Speaker 3: It wasn't for me. I mean, clearly it wasn't for me.
Speaker 4: I'll also say in that moment, you should have lied.
Speaker 4: Job interviews are pureized yeah, yeah, don't be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 4: don't tell me you're on your way out.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think that she when she said it. I think,
Speaker 5: you know, some people you can lie to, strangers or
Speaker 5: people you've known your entire life, and then there people
Speaker 5: who you just cannot something about them, like you know,
Speaker 5: permeates your it makes you completely transparent, you know.
Speaker 4: Right, people say that about me. Really no, but this woman,
Speaker 4: she had the energy she.
Speaker 3: Did and I didn't. Fin Maybe I secretly knew.
Speaker 4: Right, it's probably like on a deeper, deeper level your
Speaker 4: feeling and there was some sort of connection there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Interesting, but you honestly the fact that you got like
Speaker 4: this free mini vacation, Yeah, I might apply for the
Speaker 4: job just to get that.
Speaker 3: As the ghostman a day in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I love staying in a hotel on somebody's style. And
Speaker 4: then in the interview, I'll say, gotcha, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would have been a great flight attendant.
Speaker 4: Oh you would have been excelled.
Speaker 3: I great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can imagine, And I.
Speaker 3: Think that's you know, all my friends would have been
Speaker 3: flight attended.
Speaker 4: Oh, and you would have been all over the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd been hanging out.
Speaker 4: It does seem like a good time to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I would have woke up ten years
Speaker 3: later and been like, what was that? Wait? What I
Speaker 3: came to it? Leana? I remember I told a joke.
Speaker 3: You know, it would have.
Speaker 4: Been Yeah, it would have gone by in a flash.
Speaker 4: You would have always wondered, Yeah, yeah, wow, well something
Speaker 4: I've been wondering about. Yes, the podcast is called I
Speaker 4: said no Gifts. Yes, I was very, very excited to
Speaker 4: have you here today. I thought, she's gonna come by,
Speaker 4: well chat. Hopefully the heat won't be overwhelming that part
Speaker 4: has It hasn't worked out as planned. I am sweating
Speaker 4: like crazy, but I thought otherwise, we're going to have
Speaker 4: a nice summary time. So I was a little surprised
Speaker 4: when the doorbell rang and I open it and I
Speaker 4: see you, and then I see you're holding what appears
Speaker 4: and I'm just I hate to assume what appears to
Speaker 4: be a gift for me? Yes, what's happening here?
Speaker 5: So I thought about a few things. Okay, that is
Speaker 5: in fact a gift for you, Okay, right right? And
Speaker 5: I thought I wonder if anyone ever actually listens to
Speaker 5: him and doesn't bring a gift. And then I was like,
Speaker 5: but I don't want to be.
Speaker 4: That person, you know, right, that's interesting process.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Then I thought, well, maybe it doesn't have to be
Speaker 5: a tangible gift.
Speaker 3: Maybe I could write him a high coup. Oh then
Speaker 3: I didn't want to write a high coup.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of work.
Speaker 3: Then I thought, well, he'll like this gift. You know
Speaker 3: how people think that they're the exception.
Speaker 4: Of course, people say that about me all the time.
Speaker 5: I didn't have the courage to not show up with
Speaker 5: a gift as much as you said, don't so please
Speaker 5: forgive me.
Speaker 3: You know what they say? What is it saying like?
Speaker 5: Just do like do it and ask for forgiveness later.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, let's see, it's hoals. You know Atals is smiling.
Speaker 6: What is it better to ask for forgiveness than permission?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 4: There you go, what a great rule.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, has anyone not brought you a gift?
Speaker 4: Has anybody, Lisa? Has anybody not brought me a gift?
Speaker 5: Has anyone not not pissed you off?
Speaker 3: I think the closest would be ze Way.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was an early one. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: sea Way sent me no gift. Okay, she sent an
Speaker 4: email though, and I considered that a gift okay. I
Speaker 4: printed it out and framed it and then it became
Speaker 4: a gift.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So so far, no one's just shown up completely. Thank
Speaker 4: you Analise completely okay.
Speaker 3: And has anyone sent you a gift as a gift?
Speaker 4: Margaret cho send me all an n FT which was
Speaker 4: not a gift, It was a photo of her.
Speaker 3: I think, oh, non functionible. Is it worth anything?
Speaker 4: Yes? I think if you say an NFT is worth something,
Speaker 4: it is immediately worth something, okay. And I value this
Speaker 4: at about six point one million, so and you know
Speaker 4: the market fluctuates, yeah, but I assume it's just going
Speaker 4: to keep going up. Yeah, someone's gonna buy it for
Speaker 4: me eventually, and it's going to solve all of my problems. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 4: should I open the gift here on the podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It's an endurable little uh burlap sack that's very cute,
Speaker 4: and it says decolonize your tongue. That's nice. It does that?
Speaker 4: Does that have anything to do with what's happening in hair?
Speaker 4: Should I open it up? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It does. It's a directly.
Speaker 4: Hard first sure, Okay. The card I keep forgetting about
Speaker 4: because it's a durable it's about it's very sweet. I'm
Speaker 4: opening it. Okay, this is Bridger. I know you said
Speaker 4: no gifts, but okay, you you were coming with a
Speaker 4: big excuse immediately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know what it is?
Speaker 5: What I think that it is the weirdest thing to
Speaker 5: give someone a gift without a card with it. I
Speaker 5: don't know where I got that from, right, I don't
Speaker 5: know why. I don't know if you just need to
Speaker 5: like put your name on it, get like you need
Speaker 5: to attach like a greeting. But it feels very strange
Speaker 5: to me to give someone something wrapped and then just
Speaker 5: like that's.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, it almost feels like it could
Speaker 4: just literally have been from anybody. Yeah, you found that
Speaker 4: in the road to give to them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like putting your hair in a ponytail without
Speaker 5: a hair tie.
Speaker 4: I mean that's impressive. Yeah. No, I agree with that
Speaker 4: for the most part. I feel like I'm trying to
Speaker 4: think of any any time I've ever given a gift without.
Speaker 3: Without a card. It just doesn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, even to like like kids like my nieces
Speaker 4: have some card.
Speaker 3: I think you can give a card without a gift.
Speaker 4: Right, Which, come on, now you're hinting that you could
Speaker 4: have given me more. What a shame I didn't. You're
Speaker 4: just making me read. Yeah, okay, I'm opening the gift.
Speaker 4: Here it feels like there are two things. Take them
Speaker 4: both out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: They're like little packages within a package, which I appreciate.
Speaker 4: Oh oh is this nice tea? I am just track.
Speaker 4: I know it's nice tea because it's not in a box.
Speaker 4: It's in like a little like air tight package.
Speaker 3: Calibash, calabash.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's two different types. And Moroccan, which we love
Speaker 4: the title of and simply irresistible. Okay, tell me once caffeine. Well,
Speaker 4: you've really thought it through. One has caffeine, one does? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: tell me everything.
Speaker 3: The rock and Moroccans should have caffeine. Is that the
Speaker 3: one that is.
Speaker 4: Yes and tells you everything?
Speaker 5: I So Here's here's what's funny about this gift is
Speaker 5: as I was walking out of my house with it,
Speaker 5: I thought, who gives loose leaf tea without the actual
Speaker 5: functioning teep like the thing to steep it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: I've made I've made a pretty big assumption about you.
Speaker 4: You've made an enormous incorrect.
Speaker 5: That you somehow have what is necessary to steep loose
Speaker 5: leaf tea.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be going through the cabinets. Okay, but this
Speaker 4: might be, you know, a good thing for me. It
Speaker 4: might be the you know, you're lighting a fuse in
Speaker 4: my life where I'm like, I have to go out
Speaker 4: and get what's necessary.
Speaker 3: I've given you a reason to go back to targeting.
Speaker 4: Right exactly, I'm gonna I'll be there today. Yes, who
Speaker 4: are you kidding? See and it's a little metal thing
Speaker 4: or do you buy the you don't put in sacks?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, you don't play a nightmare? Yeah you so.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing about loose leaf tea.
Speaker 5: Okay, first of all, I am totally I used to
Speaker 5: be like an espresso girl.
Speaker 3: Okay, espresso coffee all the time.
Speaker 5: Anytime I take that over a meal. If you know,
Speaker 5: you want to give me like a latte and a muffin,
Speaker 5: you know, get what, Get that car protein vegetable out
Speaker 5: of here, you know. And then I reached the point
Speaker 5: in my life where I started having these allergic reactions
Speaker 5: to things.
Speaker 3: Well one of them was espresso.
Speaker 4: Oh this is my nightmare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like everything I loved.
Speaker 5: She told me, this doctor told me that I couldn't have,
Speaker 5: and I was like, what is life? Of course, and
Speaker 5: I moved into machas, you know, because I really, well,
Speaker 5: is it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a whole lifestyle shift, it really is.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It tastes like health, it tastes.
Speaker 5: Like grass, and it depends on the macha you get,
Speaker 5: you know. But I also did not want to be
Speaker 5: having these reactions that I was having, right, And I
Speaker 5: think the thing with machas, you realize like, oh wait,
Speaker 5: you go to some places and you're like, oh, people
Speaker 5: are just making lattes out of teas, right, right, And
Speaker 5: so then I got into tea like I always drank tea.
Speaker 4: But you're not thinking about it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you just go when you buy a Celestial Seasons,
Speaker 3: you buy the.
Speaker 4: Pre bag exactly, the little Teddy Bear guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then my friend one day he's like, you know,
Speaker 5: all the tea bags when they come prepackaged, you know,
Speaker 5: it's like plastic, And I'm like, you ever go out
Speaker 5: and buy something more expensive, thinking you're saving yourself from
Speaker 5: Like I was like, I was like, no, I'm buying
Speaker 5: I'm buying expensive tea. My tea bags are silk, My
Speaker 5: tea bags are one hundred percent Linen. He's like, I
Speaker 5: know you think they are, but they're not like.
Speaker 4: The stuff that catch fishing.
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like.
Speaker 5: They all have some sort of like plastic foaming on them.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is horrifying. Yeah, he's melting into your water.
Speaker 3: Your water. He's like, so you have to switch over
Speaker 3: to loose leaf tea.
Speaker 4: Oh that is mortifying. So how long have you been
Speaker 4: doing loose leaf?
Speaker 3: Probably since May.
Speaker 4: Oh it's a recent thing.
Speaker 3: It's a recent thing.
Speaker 4: Okay, So when did you I've got a lot of
Speaker 4: questions because I have a lot of questions about coffee
Speaker 4: and everything in general. When did you stop coffee or espresso?
Speaker 3: Coffee and espresso?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so you're done with coffee altogether.
Speaker 5: I've been trying recent lead to do it go like put.
Speaker 3: It back in.
Speaker 5: So I have like one, I had one, like a latte,
Speaker 5: like maybe like two weeks ago, and then I found
Speaker 5: the next two days I had migraines.
Speaker 3: That I could not get rid of.
Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, so I stopped coffee and espresso in
Speaker 5: the either the very end of.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, the very end of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: So you've been off for a while. Yeah, and you
Speaker 4: were drinking plastic for about a year and a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going strong with macha's at first, and
Speaker 5: then my favorite I found this place, this cafe in
Speaker 5: Harvard Heights that they made an amazing macha. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm like, this isn't macha. This is just a treat
Speaker 5: in my mouth. It happens to be green.
Speaker 4: Right, had a very good shade of green, by the way,
Speaker 4: a very.
Speaker 3: Good shade grit. But they would do the strawberry milk,
Speaker 3: you know, when I would get it iced. Oh, I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean I was.
Speaker 5: I was screaming from the rooftop, you know, like you
Speaker 5: guys got it.
Speaker 3: This is a special thing. And I so I fast.
Speaker 4: During Mama done, okay? Sure?
Speaker 5: And Ramadan this year was it's in March, okay, And
Speaker 5: so I'm not eating or drinking during the day, right,
Speaker 5: But as soon as Ramadan is over, you know, you
Speaker 5: want to be able to go to your favorite places
Speaker 5: while the sun is up, because for thirty days you've abstained.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: I go to my coffee shop and I see a
Speaker 5: sign on a window, or my macha shop. Rather, I
Speaker 5: see a sign on a window saying sorry, but as.
Speaker 4: Of oh, this feeling permanently yeah, permanently crushing, crushing. You
Speaker 4: just assume restaurants and coffee shops will always be there.
Speaker 4: It just it never crosses your mind that they, like
Speaker 4: the ones you love, will go out of business. I
Speaker 4: mean it's like next to family members and friends dying,
Speaker 4: Like restaurants, you're like, they'll just be there forever and
Speaker 4: will live together.
Speaker 5: And sometimes you think like, well, there's so many shitty
Speaker 5: places that have been open for years. This place is
Speaker 5: like a gem, you know, this is like this is
Speaker 5: like a beautiful little treat in this neighborhood. They're for
Speaker 5: sure they're going to last.
Speaker 4: Why do bad things happen to good restaurants? Yes?
Speaker 5: And then the shock is because it's like, if it
Speaker 5: weren't Ramadan, I would have been there multiple times, so
Speaker 5: I would have at least been prepared, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I would have spent the last week just
Speaker 5: there every day, you know, like a going out of business.
Speaker 4: Heard it like croak out its final word.
Speaker 3: Yes, but this was a shock.
Speaker 4: Do you blame yourself? Were they hanging by a thread
Speaker 4: and every day they're like, where's she at? I'm accusing you,
Speaker 4: I'm pointing a finger. Let's be honest, they were so good.
Speaker 5: I went to their Yelp page to see why, and
Speaker 5: people were leaving reviews after the closed announcement, saying, we're
Speaker 5: so sad to see this place. Oh, they were such
Speaker 5: a wonderful. Do you know treat in neighborhood?
Speaker 4: I mean seriously, like it's like leaving flowers at the grave.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I searched for them one line.
Speaker 4: I we're just mold melding here. I've done the exact
Speaker 4: same thing two days ago that I was like, there's
Speaker 4: this Korean place I wanted to go to. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna head out, and then I googled it just
Speaker 4: in case. I saw bright red letters permanently close. So
Speaker 4: I'm getting on Yelp. I'm looking the last two reviews
Speaker 4: are mourning the loss of it. Yeah, horrible feeling. I
Speaker 4: think I've probably I actually know for a fact there
Speaker 4: was a taco place years ago that closed. I cried, Yeah,
Speaker 4: first of all, literally cried, and then got in touch
Speaker 4: with the owners, tried to figure out what was going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The thing that's going on is they don't have any money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea very pretty simple.
Speaker 4: I mean, they don't have a ghost or something. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, we just weren't doing enough business.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then you're like, what does that say about
Speaker 4: my taste that I'm going to the place that went
Speaker 4: out of business?
Speaker 5: I in this time, this climate, I just knew that
Speaker 5: it was like they either have to charge ten dollars
Speaker 5: for what they're doing or they have to figure out
Speaker 5: another way. And I will admit I will pay seven
Speaker 5: fifty for a macha.
Speaker 3: I'm unwilling today to go up to ten dollars.
Speaker 5: I walked into a place that had hot reviews and
Speaker 5: I said, I'll do a strawberry macha, right. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 5: like I'm finding a new place, of course, you know,
Speaker 5: and she said she said something like ten seventy one,
Speaker 5: and I did a double take.
Speaker 3: I said, wait, I thought she charged me for a muffin.
Speaker 4: You know, where's my Thanksgiving fees?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I said wait, wait, wait what what what are the charges?
Speaker 5: And she was like, you want an almond milk right?
Speaker 5: And I was like yeah, and she was like yeah,
Speaker 5: it's this is the And I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: so sorry. Did you start making it? She was like no, no, no,
Speaker 5: I said, I'm so sorry, I have a great day.
Speaker 4: Good for you. Yeah, and felt bad for two weeks.
Speaker 3: No, no, you have to stand up.
Speaker 4: For yourself in these No. No, no ten dollars for
Speaker 4: I mean, any non alcoholic beverage. It's we've entered a danger.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But but but I saw her setup. Her setup was
Speaker 5: nowhere near the setup interesting of my guys.
Speaker 4: Right, so she was ripping people off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were trying to provide a superb product and
Speaker 5: a made to order product.
Speaker 3: But that cost, it.
Speaker 4: Really does, right, You've got to cut some corners, so
Speaker 4: they corners cut.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: AnyWho, So now I'm on my tea. You know, Now
Speaker 5: I'm on this tea journey. It's like I've lost coffee.
Speaker 5: I've kind of lost machia.
Speaker 4: And and are you strictly hot tea?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, okay, you like a cold tea.
Speaker 3: I'll drink of cold tea.
Speaker 5: But I have never been like you know how people
Speaker 5: were like give me the Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 3: I'm like, sure, why would you mess up lemonade?
Speaker 4: Why would you mess up tea? They're both great memage.
Speaker 3: You know, I am mostly a hot tea person.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Even on the way here, I did a hot chi
Speaker 3: oh interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did at agree.
Speaker 3: Weather, ninety degree weather, so you know, I had.
Speaker 4: Getting back to the temperatures with you, pure mayhem. You
Speaker 4: have the car at like forty eight degrees, boiling hot beverage.
Speaker 4: You're sick, you've got an illness.
Speaker 3: But I don't like sweat really oh that much.
Speaker 4: Wow, So you're just immortal.
Speaker 5: I don't like like I'm warm right now, right, but
Speaker 5: like it'll have to be. We'd have to be like
Speaker 5: in the Middle East for like a bead of sweat
Speaker 5: to come down my forehead.
Speaker 4: You're remarkably dry looking, and I feel like I'm drenched. No,
Speaker 4: you're dry really. Yeah, I feel like I like water
Speaker 4: is running down my face. Okay, that's good. I do
Speaker 4: feel cozy rather than hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm not to the like heat stroke the moment.
Speaker 3: Yet I feel my hair swelling.
Speaker 5: That's just you know, because I know that's gonna happen
Speaker 5: mon fuzz yeah and curl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a terrible feeling. Yeah. I'm more of a
Speaker 4: cold tea person. Okay, I wonder if I could turn
Speaker 4: this into cold tea. You can. What do I do?
Speaker 4: I I steep it and then put it in the fridge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you want to steep it
Speaker 3: hot and then put it in the.
Speaker 4: Fridge, yeah, Or I wonder if there's like there's probably
Speaker 4: enough in here to cold brew it.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how to cold brew.
Speaker 4: I cold just moments before you got here, was doing
Speaker 4: a whole It's called a cold brew Toddy. It's like
Speaker 4: a plastic machine you fill up with coffee and leave overnight.
Speaker 4: Next day you've got a week of cold brew. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I think you can use it for tea.
Speaker 3: Try it?
Speaker 4: Maybe I will let me know. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: wonder what how that affects. I think it just brings
Speaker 4: out the flavor.
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't so, because I know with's hot when
Speaker 5: you when you steep hot tea, right, there's a certain
Speaker 5: amount of time.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that at first too. I would be
Speaker 3: one of those people.
Speaker 5: I'm just leaving a tea bag in there, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm leaving a tea bag in there. Maybe I'm refilling
Speaker 5: some water with the same tea, but you know, just
Speaker 5: really disrespectful to tea.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're desperate, you can use it twice, right, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, I mean they gave you fifty two tea bags
Speaker 5: for twin.
Speaker 4: What if you're in a bunker. I guess you want
Speaker 4: to have a quiet moment of tea.
Speaker 3: Do you know that?
Speaker 5: Like when we have like peppermint or chat whatever. You know,
Speaker 5: it's not actually tea Like in America we call it tea,
Speaker 5: but the like there's only two teas that come from tea.
Speaker 3: It's a tea leaf. That's what the leaf is called.
Speaker 3: It's a tea leaf.
Speaker 4: I had no idea. Actually, that's fascinating.
Speaker 3: That belief.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and then the rest of this is just
Speaker 4: like pot pourri.
Speaker 5: It's like what it like, it's mint a tea. Mint
Speaker 5: is not a tea. Mint is mint. It's a mint leaf,
Speaker 5: but it's not a tea.
Speaker 3: Leaf, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: It's like a combo.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think there's like a black tea leaf.
Speaker 4: Right, maybe is that the only tea?
Speaker 3: I think? Maybe?
Speaker 4: On a leash, any idea. I would love to know
Speaker 4: this because it's a fascinating fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been lied to. The helicopters circling. Everyone's finding out
Speaker 4: three helicopters, four or five? Oh my god, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Why do we need five helicopters?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is somewhat.
Speaker 4: Wow, the president may have just passed over. I said,
Speaker 4: no gifts, Joe reach out, Jill reach out. Wow, that
Speaker 4: was the most helicopters I've maybe ever seen together.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is.
Speaker 6: The correct answer, but what I've found was, while there's
Speaker 6: literally thousands of teas, it can be they can all
Speaker 6: be broken down into six main types. But I don't
Speaker 6: I'm not seeing the specific.
Speaker 3: Tea like the leaf names. I'm just seeing like black
Speaker 3: and green.
Speaker 4: I think we just assume that there's a black leaf
Speaker 4: and a green leaf, and the rest were putting spices.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the rest are exactly that spices, right, fruits.
Speaker 4: And right, because I feel like there are I mean,
Speaker 4: there's well, actually, I mean I was about to say
Speaker 4: some statement about tea that simply wouldn't have been true.
Speaker 5: I don't know anything, and then then we started saying
Speaker 5: tea because where do they drink a lot of tea?
Speaker 5: Like maybe not where do they drink not like London
Speaker 5: or something, not like your but there was a certain
Speaker 5: that tea is, like that's what they originate of tea. Well,
Speaker 5: they would call this hot drink that they were drinking
Speaker 5: in that language, they would call it.
Speaker 3: Or something like that and so then you know, passed down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then we just started calling these hot beverages that
Speaker 5: we drank tea.
Speaker 4: Wow, but it's yeah wow. I'm curious on at least
Speaker 4: you know the where tea originated. This is an educational
Speaker 4: podcasts and foremost we need to walk away with knowledge.
Speaker 6: It is probable that the tea plant originated in regions
Speaker 6: around southwest China, Tibt in northern India.
Speaker 4: There we go. We've just learned. Our minds are just
Speaker 4: so powerful and increasing every day.
Speaker 5: But isn't it interesting when when you think of tea,
Speaker 5: what country do you think of?
Speaker 3: First?
Speaker 4: I think of India? Okay, what do you think?
Speaker 3: I think? I probably think of like the Brits.
Speaker 4: Oh, England? Right, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I mean I
Speaker 4: guess I think the India thing is two things. It's
Speaker 4: the colonization, the British people are there, and the origin.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 5: I make my chi lattes at home and I posted
Speaker 5: one like on social media and I was like, I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm really getting so good at this. I was like,
Speaker 5: my ChIL lattes are like the best. And this Indian
Speaker 5: woman DMed me and she.
Speaker 3: Was like, it's just a chai. Wow. I was like,
Speaker 3: but doesn't latte mean?
Speaker 5: She was like, a chai means specific spices and milk.
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, So like what I think of as a
Speaker 4: chai tea is not a chi. Yeah, she mads the milk.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: She's like, if you're saying chai latte, you're just saying
Speaker 5: like chai chai.
Speaker 4: Wow. There's a lot of misinformation out there, I.
Speaker 3: Said, because you know how, sometimes you just don't want
Speaker 3: to be wrong.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love this, continued, I'm.
Speaker 5: Willing to be like a little bit wrong, right, but
Speaker 5: like one hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 3: That's asking for a lot, of course.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, wait, doesn't latte mean steamed milk?
Speaker 5: I was like, I would be pretty pissed if I
Speaker 5: went into a store and asked for a chie and
Speaker 5: they gave me a chie with just some cold.
Speaker 4: Milk poort right.
Speaker 5: And she was like, oh, yeah, I guess you have
Speaker 5: a point. I guess in America it's and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: just give me a little.
Speaker 4: Two people absolutely refusing to back down from their positions.
Speaker 3: You came and watched my story. Just give me a little.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was your writing so high on this moment.
Speaker 3: Then I felt so bad.
Speaker 5: I researched it a bit and then I was like,
Speaker 5: I guess us Americans.
Speaker 4: So to be clear, a chi is a chai tea
Speaker 4: with any type of milk in it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how they serve Yeah, it's just like milk.
Speaker 5: It's like, that's how they drink it. It's it's these spices, right,
Speaker 5: steeped in water and then with milk added into it.
Speaker 5: That is the way chai is made. So that is
Speaker 5: the way they drink chi.
Speaker 4: Right. So you take this information to a coffee shop
Speaker 4: and you get to explain something to a barista and yes,
Speaker 4: that's a I'm sure they'll love it. Yeah, they'll adore
Speaker 4: every moment of that.
Speaker 5: They will talk about me. They'll go live as soon
Speaker 5: as their shift is done.
Speaker 4: You believe this asshole.
Speaker 5: She kept back and asking for a chai and I
Speaker 5: was like a chi lat and she just kept saying chi.
Speaker 5: And I was like, chai latte or chai and she
Speaker 5: was like, there's only chai.
Speaker 4: Next thing, I know, she's pulling out an encyclopedia.
Speaker 5: So I give her this tea bag steep than hot water,
Speaker 5: and now she wants to speak to a manager.
Speaker 3: I can't do this.
Speaker 4: Just terrorizing every coffee shop in America. Well, I'm I'm
Speaker 4: very excited about both of these teas. Have you tried
Speaker 4: either of them?
Speaker 3: I've tried them. The Rock and Moroccan.
Speaker 4: All right, let me see if it tells me what flavor.
Speaker 3: It should be? Green? Is it not green tea? And
Speaker 3: Marigal my favorite.
Speaker 4: I love the sound of this and it says I
Speaker 4: can put it over ice so I can do whatever
Speaker 4: I want.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: And then the simply irresistible is Marigold and Egyptian mint
Speaker 4: and love love. So the other one didn't have love,
Speaker 4: so that actually it does say love, so they were
Speaker 4: both created with love. You got to know that Marigold
Speaker 4: and Egyptian mint.
Speaker 5: You know, whenever they put a country before something, it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is mint, but this is Egyptian mint.
Speaker 3: You're like, what's Egyptian?
Speaker 4: Man? You're going to have a weird experience.
Speaker 3: Is it meant with like heavy eyeline?
Speaker 4: I know you never know, you never know.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry Egypt.
Speaker 4: Now I'm not going to be able to have a
Speaker 4: live show in Cairo. Cancel the dates, cancel the dates.
Speaker 4: Very interesting. Yeah, I recently did have Moroccan pepper and
Speaker 4: it was intense. I liked it, but it was it
Speaker 4: was a learning curve. There was a moment where I
Speaker 4: was like, I don't like this, and then I learned.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it's just different, and now I
Speaker 4: kind of love it. Yeah, you just have to let
Speaker 4: it hurt you for a minute. Yeah, Okay, Well we've
Speaker 4: got to play a game. Okay, We're gonna play Gift
Speaker 4: or a Curse today. Yes, I'm trying to have two games.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to go back and forth, and I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to brag, but I've become kind of
Speaker 4: a professional podcast host at this point. I can remember
Speaker 4: things week to week, which is incredible. I need a
Speaker 4: number between one intent from you three. Okay, I have
Speaker 4: to do some light calculating. Okay, I'm going to get
Speaker 4: our game pieces. So right now, you can promote, recommend,
Speaker 4: do whatever you want with the microphone. I'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Okay. I love love that.
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Speaker 3: It is called Hitjabs Off.
Speaker 5: It is a lovely pun on the phrase hats off,
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Speaker 5: anything and everything that I have going on, then you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can check me out online.
Speaker 5: My website is Zanab Johnson dot com and social media
Speaker 5: Zanab Johnson except for TikTok. TikTok is the Zanab Johnson.
Speaker 5: So you know that I'm the one and only.
Speaker 4: I'm the official good for you. I've never been able
Speaker 4: to really claim my name on social media. There's always
Speaker 4: somebody there taking it from me.
Speaker 5: My name seemingly is not popular in America, but it's
Speaker 5: so popular around the world.
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, so somebody else is always taking it.
Speaker 5: It's not I got it. I got it in most places.
Speaker 5: First TikTok for some reason.
Speaker 4: They another probably benefiting.
Speaker 3: Z ain't Johnson specifically.
Speaker 4: You should reach out to her. Okay, this is how
Speaker 4: we're going to play gift to a curse. I'm going
Speaker 4: to name three things. You're going to tell me if
Speaker 4: there're a gift or a curse and why, then I'll
Speaker 4: tell you if you're right or wrong, because they're correct.
Speaker 4: Answers number one, there are correct, there are watch out
Speaker 4: number one. This is from a listener named Peter Peter
Speaker 4: suggested gift her a curse escalators.
Speaker 3: Ooh, escalators can be a curse for some people. I've
Speaker 3: seen it. I have seen the tumble, I have seen the.
Speaker 5: Little baby's foot gets, I have seen tragic stories. But
Speaker 5: the escalator overall is a gift.
Speaker 4: It is a gift wrong. They are simply a curse.
Speaker 4: I've been afraid of them since I was I mean
Speaker 4: it was a major childhood fear. First of all, I thought,
Speaker 4: I definitely thought one of my fingers was going in there.
Speaker 4: I thought a shoelace was going in there. I was
Speaker 4: getting sucked into the department store. So you know, they
Speaker 4: haunted me for so long. And now I love a staircase. Okay, look,
Speaker 4: if you don't want to move, get in the elevator.
Speaker 4: If you want stairs, take the stairs. Yeah, I love
Speaker 4: a nice set of stairs to run up or run down.
Speaker 4: Escalators also bring out one of my least favorite behaviors
Speaker 4: in everyone, which is the standing side by side on
Speaker 4: a moving object that should be able to the option
Speaker 4: should be to climb.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: And when an escalator stops, when it's out of order
Speaker 4: and you have to walk up that.
Speaker 3: Thing, Yeah, it seems like something isn't right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Top five most disort reenting feelings. Yes, you're sick
Speaker 4: to your stomach by the top.
Speaker 5: Yes are so these are the right or wrong of
Speaker 5: it is based is solely based on you. No, no,
Speaker 5: no truths okay, because when you said there are in
Speaker 5: fact correct answers, I just knew, like Wikipedia said so
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you failed that one.
Speaker 3: Well wait, wait, there's no way. So you know how
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people.
Speaker 5: There's there's people on like each side of the spectrum,
Speaker 5: but most people are in the middle. I feel like
Speaker 5: that's who the escalator is for, right, because I am
Speaker 5: like you, I too use a stare, right. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 5: as long as I can use this stare, I will
Speaker 5: use this stare.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: But then there's so many people who just don't have
Speaker 5: have that confidence.
Speaker 3: In their knees right in their hips, you know.
Speaker 5: And we live in a place that that of course
Speaker 5: has multi levels all the time.
Speaker 4: Rightly, what are we talking about, Ella, It is not
Speaker 4: that much, but not even.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about when you're at an airport, when you're at
Speaker 5: a department store, like you said, when you're at a
Speaker 5: mall right, and elevators can be extremely unreliable, but they
Speaker 5: are so slow they have a capacity that is often
Speaker 5: reached very easily.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta wait.
Speaker 5: Like if we were reliant today just on elevators and stairs,
Speaker 5: we would have a lot of one level ass places.
Speaker 4: Beautiful. Okay, it looks and we've got we get to
Speaker 4: look at the beautiful sky. There's never anything blocking are you?
Speaker 4: Manhattan is completely completely flat? Imagine a flat Manhattan now
Speaker 4: that would be fascinating for look good or horrifying, probably
Speaker 4: horror horrifying. But I mean, I'm not giving you the points. Okay,
Speaker 4: but you've got two more opportunities, so and I believe
Speaker 4: in you.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Number two gift or a curse And this is from
Speaker 4: someone named Katie. Cancelation fees when you cancel or miss
Speaker 4: an appointment last minute.
Speaker 3: What's last minute?
Speaker 4: Katie didn't say whatever last minute is to you.
Speaker 3: For me personally, they're a curse.
Speaker 5: However, if you did not put in a cancelation fees,
Speaker 5: humans are disrespectful. Okay, your business will never get off
Speaker 5: the ground. If you do not put in cancelation fees.
Speaker 5: People will occupy your time and then not show up
Speaker 5: last minute. Every single day if there is no consequence.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just the I mean there's no way,
Speaker 5: there's no way an entrepreneur can make it.
Speaker 3: If there's just no way.
Speaker 4: But for you, curse, it's a curse. You got the point.
Speaker 4: I hate them. This is what I agree, of course
Speaker 4: with everything you're saying, but I think you should get
Speaker 4: one freebie with the business. Yeah, the first time you cancel,
Speaker 4: they don't charge you. If you set up another appointment
Speaker 4: and you canceled, then you get charged three times as much.
Speaker 4: Then it's a real high stake situation. But you get
Speaker 4: the most people. You know, a last minute thing doesn't
Speaker 4: happen all the time. Yeah, so that you know, you
Speaker 4: get the one little thing and then you know you
Speaker 4: have to be careful from then on out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the first time, give give me a break, Yes, happen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got sick. Yeah, my family parish. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: I have to cancel the massage.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So there are curse. Yeah, And I'm proud of you for,
Speaker 4: you know, despite having all of this evidence for businesses,
Speaker 4: you stood by what you felt.
Speaker 5: I also find that a business it's really thriving, that's
Speaker 5: really sought after they actually don't do a cancelation fee
Speaker 5: because there's always somebody their weight.
Speaker 3: They have a weight list of people.
Speaker 5: Just but but the businesses that are that maybe not
Speaker 5: so are really trying to build or really trying, or
Speaker 5: maybe they're just petty. They they have those those cancelation
Speaker 5: fees because they they're dependent on you showing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think maybe the system just needs to be rethought.
Speaker 4: If you're a regular customer, you should get one free.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then they're like they come all the time, give them
Speaker 4: a break.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the reality.
Speaker 5: Someone can always say, let me see what I can
Speaker 5: do those words.
Speaker 3: It's so easy.
Speaker 5: So like you know, just go in your computer, your
Speaker 5: you you handle the system.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so easy to negate this.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, number three Okay, so you've gotten one out
Speaker 4: of two and this is you got to bring it home.
Speaker 4: Here from a listener named logan gift your a waiting
Speaker 4: to start eating when out at a restaurant until everyone
Speaker 4: gets their meal, even though the person missing an entree
Speaker 4: is insisting everyone else can start eating.
Speaker 5: Okay, So the question is is waiting a gift or
Speaker 5: a curse?
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the particular situation, I guess is Let's assume Analise,
Speaker 4: you and I are out to dinner. You and I
Speaker 4: have both gotten our food. Annalise ordered a crazy thing
Speaker 4: and it's taking a little bit longer. But Honalise is like,
Speaker 4: please reseat, and we don't a curse, okay, And.
Speaker 3: Why first of all, did I order hot food? Okay?
Speaker 5: You want me to eat lukewarm food because you know
Speaker 5: you decided to get the lasignon This says it on
Speaker 5: the menu.
Speaker 3: The LASIGNA is going to take forty five minutes to come.
Speaker 5: You got to put that order in before you get there,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like, I was actually at
Speaker 5: a restaurant the other night, dare I say, maybe it
Speaker 5: was a date and my food came out first. It
Speaker 5: came out surprisingly fast, and it was piping hot, Like
Speaker 5: I saw this theme coming off, and I'm like, gott it.
Speaker 5: I mean, I gotta taste this. And the guy was
Speaker 5: like he was being funny, but he was like thanks
Speaker 5: for waiting, oh, And I was like, oh, but I
Speaker 5: never stopped. I was like a and I just kept
Speaker 5: eating and he's like, no, no, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
Speaker 5: But I think that when food comes, you should be
Speaker 5: able to eat the food, right, Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 5: you should have to wait, especially if the person is insisting, like, no,
Speaker 5: please eat, It's like, come on, what are you waiting for?
Speaker 4: Who is this for? Of course you're right, and there should.
Speaker 4: I mean, if one comes out and everybody hasn't gotten
Speaker 4: their thing, maybe let's wait two to three minutes. Yes,
Speaker 4: I don't know. If it starts to feel like it's
Speaker 4: taking too long and people are insisting that you eat
Speaker 4: and you don't, now you're creating a situation that no
Speaker 4: one knows how to handle. Yes, we're all like, what's happening?
Speaker 4: We want the person we're watching their food get cold
Speaker 4: and there. Why are they trying to be polite? It
Speaker 4: makes no sense. Yeah, I really think the whole rules
Speaker 4: should probably just be kind of forgotten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean, of course you wait a minute, Yeah, wait
Speaker 4: a couple minutes. You don't dive right in unless it's
Speaker 4: piping hot in the steam and you want a little bite.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, we're all adults. We know
Speaker 4: that restaurants, the things are coming out at random times,
Speaker 4: and food needs to be served, eating at the temperature
Speaker 4: it's served it.
Speaker 5: It has to be eating at the temperature is served at.
Speaker 5: And I think that if we if we reversed it,
Speaker 5: if we thought about it like dessert, Like no one
Speaker 5: would ever expect for ice cream, like somebody's you know,
Speaker 5: ice cream to come out and it's like, oh wait,
Speaker 5: because it's like we have a clear indication, yeah, that
Speaker 5: this thing is gonna melt. But I think people are
Speaker 5: more comfortable with eating something that was once hot and
Speaker 5: not hot anymore. But it's something that starts out cold
Speaker 5: and now it's just melted in.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a better People are more willing to settle
Speaker 4: if it got cold. Yes, yeah, but you shouldn't have to. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's why we're at a restaurant to have a good time. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: you got two out of three. Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 3: I feel like a winner.
Speaker 4: I mean, the escalator thing, you're just bombed, unfortunately, but
Speaker 4: I'm glad to see you turn it around in such
Speaker 4: a big way. This is the final segment of the podcast.
Speaker 4: It's called they Said No Emails, people write into I
Speaker 4: Said no Gifts at gmail dot com with question Scalore
Speaker 4: and you know, I like to give back to the community,
Speaker 4: so I'm answering the questions, I'm helping, I'm doing whatever
Speaker 4: I can, and I'm going to force you to help me. Okay,
Speaker 4: is that okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, This says hello bridger and disrespectful but redeemed and
Speaker 4: esteemed guest.
Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, incredible they know.
Speaker 4: They knew as someone who accepts gifts on a podcast,
Speaker 4: how have you trained yourself to stay composed and accept
Speaker 4: gifts so gratefully. I am quite a shy person and
Speaker 4: find being center of attention whilst accepting a gift quite overwhelming.
Speaker 4: My family think I'm quite quirky, so that paired with
Speaker 4: eccentric family members that give me totally off the wall
Speaker 4: and dare I say, undesirable gifts, it can be quite
Speaker 4: difficult to disguise my surprise and dislike we're not done.
Speaker 4: I'm very fortunate to have such giving family members, and
Speaker 4: of course I adore them, but they're incredibly strong personalities,
Speaker 4: so any birthday event really put you on the spot.
Speaker 4: A good example of this happening in the past was
Speaker 4: my aunt hyping up the gift she was going to
Speaker 4: give me for a month in advance. She was incredibly excited,
Speaker 4: and on the day I was pasted a big cardboard
Speaker 4: box with twelve family members staring back at me. I
Speaker 4: opened it to find a polystyrene head painted and styled
Speaker 4: to look just like me, wig glasses and everything. I
Speaker 4: struggled to disguise my shock and horror and felt like
Speaker 4: Brad Pittens seven. I was so embarrassed that I turned
Speaker 4: beetroot red, and the family bombarded me with so many
Speaker 4: questions about it that I couldn't just politely accept it
Speaker 4: and felt forced to admit I didn't like the polystyrene
Speaker 4: head sat in the middle of the table. Eventually, I
Speaker 4: was reduced to tears as I just wanted to make
Speaker 4: my aunt happy and didn't want to make a big
Speaker 4: thing about it. I understand this is a loaded question
Speaker 4: that involves grace and decorum and how to navigate friends
Speaker 4: and families, but I hope you can help. If not,
Speaker 4: it makes for a gift horror story for your listeners
Speaker 4: at least, I hope you both have a wonderful week,
Speaker 4: and thank you for such a wonderful podcast. You're so welcome.
Speaker 4: Warmest regards, Alice in England. I love when people put
Speaker 4: where they're from, you know, it just really tells us
Speaker 4: who we're talking to this. I've just read you a book. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and now we've got to look at it critically. It
Speaker 4: seems like Alice gets a bunch of horrible gifts. This
Speaker 4: family is bad at giving gifts, and she has kind
Speaker 4: of led them on because it sounds like the system
Speaker 4: does not stop and it's kind of maybe peaked at
Speaker 4: this terrifying hit in a box. What does she do?
Speaker 4: What is the question forgotten?
Speaker 3: I think it was twofold.
Speaker 5: I think she is a person that has anxiety around
Speaker 5: just receiving gifts because she said that she is not used,
Speaker 5: she is not used to or doesn't really handle being
Speaker 5: the center of attention.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But then on.
Speaker 5: Top of that anxiety, she is a part of a
Speaker 5: family unit that is eccentric, and so not only do
Speaker 5: they shower her with gifts, but they are gifts that
Speaker 5: she doesn't necessarily want.
Speaker 4: Or like beautifully summed up. Okay, well, first of all,
Speaker 4: how to get a gift with grace? You're born with it,
Speaker 4: That's all I can say that. It's not something you learn, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's something deep inside you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Otherwise you're kind of like an animal. The rest of
Speaker 4: society is animals, but the select few of us who
Speaker 4: are graceful. I assume you're good with accepting a gift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean said right. I'm not gonna say I
Speaker 3: ain't got no grace.
Speaker 5: I will say that I am not a person that
Speaker 5: enjoys being gifted things. But I will probably say it's
Speaker 5: because I don't know. I just you leave a lot
Speaker 5: up to a person to get give you a gift,
Speaker 5: you know, like most times, which is I think it's
Speaker 5: amazing with you because every week someone shows up and
Speaker 5: gives you something, and I imagine that it's mostly things
Speaker 5: you don't want or need.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to say it. I say it
Speaker 3: for I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Avocate for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should start an Etsy shop, you know, of
Speaker 5: all the things that you need to.
Speaker 4: Get rid of, you know.
Speaker 5: But I do know how to keep a poker face,
Speaker 5: and I do exist in gratitude most times, so I
Speaker 5: know how to be gracious and just say, oh, thank
Speaker 5: you so much, you know, for this thing, whether I
Speaker 5: love it or don't love it, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: But okay, so that's one thing, right, that's just like
Speaker 5: get used to it if you're not born with it,
Speaker 5: you know, as Bridges said, get used to it. Get
Speaker 5: used to people trying to do something.
Speaker 3: Nice for you. Sure right, just get used to it,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: I think that's like an esteem thing too. You don't
Speaker 5: think you deserve nothing.
Speaker 3: There's people out in the world to think they deserve everything.
Speaker 4: I'm watching their careers, Skye.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, so you.
Speaker 5: Gotta think that you are deserving of at least the
Speaker 5: thought that someone would want to give you something. I
Speaker 5: think that it really that anxiety is rooted in like
Speaker 5: your self worth.
Speaker 4: Interesting. I feel like like you've really gotten to the
Speaker 4: root of alice. It's a nice title for something, the.
Speaker 3: Root of Alice in London.
Speaker 5: But now, then the the second part of this is
Speaker 5: being a part of a family who never gives you
Speaker 5: gifts that you like. And I think that that also
Speaker 5: is rooted in the same thing, because you're self worth
Speaker 5: and self love. When you kind of tackle that and
Speaker 5: your self esteem, then you'll speak up.
Speaker 4: And let people know what you will say.
Speaker 3: Listen, and you've used a lot of energy this past month.
Speaker 5: To hype up yes, something that really I don't fancy.
Speaker 5: Let's use this as a learning lesson. It's something we
Speaker 5: should not do in the future. With love and respect
Speaker 5: and grace. Thank you, but no thank you.
Speaker 4: There's nothing more in the world that I want to
Speaker 4: do than open a gift and while holding it, say,
Speaker 4: let's look at this as a learning lesson. Can you
Speaker 4: imagine the power you would.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, people don't listen.
Speaker 5: I've gotten bad gifts from people, and then when they
Speaker 5: in the feud, and you know, after that, I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 5: you don't have to give me anything. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 5: don't you know what I'm saying? Oh do you want me?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stop by? Do you want me to bring
Speaker 5: you over something? I know what you're gonna bring is
Speaker 5: never something I want her? E Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 5: I got everything on no no.
Speaker 3: You know when you go really deep into like a Barretts,
Speaker 3: So it's like.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, please, and they don't get it.
Speaker 4: They'll never get us.
Speaker 3: They still show up with you know, allive. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Look, it's happened to me probably one hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: five times on this podcast, so I know where you're
Speaker 4: coming from here. I feel like we answered Alice's question. Well,
Speaker 4: I feel like you answered it. I kind of just
Speaker 4: leaned back and sipped my drink, which felt incredible, nailed it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna tell Alice to get a hold
Speaker 4: of herself. Yeah, crying over the gift. The hysterics have
Speaker 4: got to stop, Alice. Yeah, I mean you're ruining everyone
Speaker 4: whatever event that was. Yeah, let's let's try to get
Speaker 4: a grip.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay again, you answered it perfectly. I got to watch
Speaker 4: you just kind of.
Speaker 3: But it's but it's your addition is like it's great.
Speaker 5: It's like, come on, Alice, come on, Alice, forget about them.
Speaker 5: This is actually about you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a thousand. You know this family isn't to blame.
Speaker 3: You, No, they they I mean, you know, we'll tackle
Speaker 3: them another time.
Speaker 4: They're each gonna write an individually, probably send a head
Speaker 4: to the podcast. Who knows what they're capable of, their
Speaker 4: sick people. Okay, I'm so glad you have gotten a
Speaker 4: gift that I can use.
Speaker 3: You know what, I just realized what this is open?
Speaker 4: It's open, it's open, It's I trust you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, did I grab the open one.
Speaker 4: I cannot wait for this to be used in court.
Speaker 4: My family crying behind you.
Speaker 3: Call this episode tacky, get.
Speaker 4: But it's open but not you, and it's completely or
Speaker 4: you taste it and you were like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I've got to get rid of this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how did that happen?
Speaker 4: Interesting? Let's hope you're the one that opened it. That's
Speaker 4: all I'm saying. If this was open to the factory
Speaker 4: and I'm a victim of the tea killer, mmmm, that
Speaker 4: would be a way to go. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: I have so many of them.
Speaker 4: Let this be a sign that you're out of control.
Speaker 4: You've got to get a handle of yourself. Use the
Speaker 4: tea you've got before you order more.
Speaker 3: Coming to Bridge's et Sea shop and Caliba.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Calibash Teas. I will be drinking both. Okay,
Speaker 4: I've wonderful time with you. This is fantastic, this is great.
Speaker 4: We're covered in sweat. Let's be honest. My shirt is
Speaker 4: gonna have to be changed. But I'm happy you came, thrilled,
Speaker 4: happy to be here.
Speaker 3: This is wonderful.
Speaker 4: Listener. The podcast is over. It's going to be very
Speaker 4: quiet soon, so you've got to figure out what happens next.
Speaker 4: I believe in you. You know I'm pushing you out
Speaker 4: of the nest. Fly away. I love you, goodbye, I
Speaker 4: said no gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced
Speaker 4: by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed
Speaker 4: by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our
Speaker 4: guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could
Speaker 4: only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow
Speaker 4: the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. I
Speaker 4: don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get
Speaker 4: to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.
Speaker 4: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?
Speaker 2: Lie in?
Speaker 3: Why did you hear?
Speaker 2: Though? A man?
Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? But you're I guess Tom, you gotta come.
Speaker 2: To me empty?
Speaker 1: And I said, no, good, that's your own presences presents enough.
Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how
Speaker 3: Do you dare to surbey me