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Speaker 2: Logan Paulson here with London Fletcher and Fred Smoot and
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about the schedule.
Speaker 3: Guys. Glad to have you here. Hey.
Speaker 4: I always good to see you, brother. I just saw
Speaker 4: you the other thing. It's good to see you again.
Speaker 3: See he's always coming off.
Speaker 4: I'm not good to see I see you every day.
Speaker 5: Man. It's good to see.
Speaker 4: You, London man. That's why he got a two pay
Speaker 4: and we don't. It works like that, right, all right, So.
Speaker 2: Let's start off with week one. The Commanders have the
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals at home. You guys think of that, says
Speaker 2: the opening game of the season.
Speaker 4: McCoy, y'all forget in effect that Kyler Murray is hurt,
Speaker 4: not only to get that.
Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, you died.
Speaker 4: I can look at y'all face y'all like Coyler Murray
Speaker 4: Cole McCoy, it's going to be the guy that they're
Speaker 4: going to play that day.
Speaker 6: I think it's a game they should edge out and
Speaker 6: they should.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they definitely definitely should win that game. It's
Speaker 5: a great opportunity to start the season off right at home.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Kyler Murray being out. We don't even know
Speaker 5: if DeAndre Hopkins gonna be on that on that team
Speaker 5: that by the time that game rolls around. So when
Speaker 5: you look at that, I was excited, you see, because
Speaker 5: that's the first thing when the schedule comes out. Guys,
Speaker 5: we all know. First thing we want to know who
Speaker 5: do we open the season against? And where's that game
Speaker 5: at yea, so we know it's gonna be at home,
Speaker 5: and we got a game winnable game against Arizona.
Speaker 3: Cause is at home or on the road?
Speaker 6: Home? Home? Home? You want to be at home.
Speaker 5: No that the the start of the NFL season is
Speaker 5: special and it's more fashion when you're doing in that hall.
Speaker 5: Almost definite, when your crowd, you get the the everything
Speaker 5: the hoop lied and everything that's involved with the opening
Speaker 5: of the season and the fact that you're doing in
Speaker 5: front of your home fans.
Speaker 6: Oh, it changed everything.
Speaker 4: You want that the energy coming into the season, and
Speaker 4: I can only imagine.
Speaker 6: How fedix feel.
Speaker 4: It's going to be rocking that first game and you
Speaker 4: want to take that first opponent out of the game
Speaker 4: as quick as you can in the in the fans
Speaker 4: help you do that. And like I said, we're playing
Speaker 4: a backup quarterback. We don't know if they're gonna have
Speaker 4: Boodle Baker who requested a trade. We don't know if
Speaker 4: they're gonna have Hopskins who re christing the trade.
Speaker 6: Can we say right now?
Speaker 4: Can we say right now that Arizona is in the
Speaker 4: rebuilding process? So right we the perfect team to start
Speaker 4: the season off with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan gotten the new head coach from Philly, defensive
Speaker 2: minded guy. A lot of pieces missing on that roster.
Speaker 2: So I think that we all can say it feels
Speaker 2: like a good, good opening game, probably a win for them,
Speaker 2: right Yeah, feel good about that. The next game is
Speaker 2: at the Denver Broncos. That's a tough trip here. What
Speaker 2: do you gotta think of that?
Speaker 5: I like it, But one thing going out to Denver, Oh,
Speaker 5: yes's extremely difficult. Man, that mind high in the altitude, yeah,
Speaker 5: and being tired. It wasn't It's not the altitude like
Speaker 5: as far as getting tired, getted yeah, yeah, yeah, my
Speaker 5: father's drive. Yeah. So you gotta make sure you have
Speaker 5: enough hydration. That's gonna be the key. I wonder if
Speaker 5: that's gonna be denverse opening game of the season.
Speaker 6: Though they homegame.
Speaker 5: Open at home game.
Speaker 6: But it's also a great test.
Speaker 4: It's a great opening test because they have a quarterback,
Speaker 4: they have legit wide receivers. They got Sean Payton as
Speaker 4: a quarter I mean as a coach, they have a
Speaker 4: legit defense. That will be a game where you test
Speaker 4: yourself and don't forget. I know everybody trying to forget
Speaker 4: about Russell Wilson. But with Sean Payton, Russell will returned
Speaker 4: back to form.
Speaker 3: A hundred be better. I know it'll be better. I
Speaker 3: don't think he'll be because he looked, he looked.
Speaker 5: Some of the things you hear about Russell, And I
Speaker 5: talked to some some folks that were an im about
Speaker 5: a Denverer. But just like one thing you want your
Speaker 5: quarterback to be is what of your guys.
Speaker 6: He's not a guy. He's a company man, a company man.
Speaker 5: He was putting himself above he was the other guy.
Speaker 5: He was and I'm not talking dinner. I'm talking. I'm
Speaker 5: talking Seattle.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, that's where everything started at.
Speaker 4: But come on, if you're a pretty boy, quarterback, curly hair,
Speaker 4: married to Sierra, when you feel a little better than
Speaker 4: most of your team, come on, man, let's not let's
Speaker 4: not throw in and hate. But but Russ has never
Speaker 4: been that guy's guy like, He's always been kind of nerdoush,
Speaker 4: kind of to himself, kind of their family man. So
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I don't mark a person.
Speaker 4: This is like Jason Campbell. We knew who Jason was.
Speaker 4: Jason was very low.
Speaker 5: Don't you talk about Lionel Richie.
Speaker 4: You know, hey, listen, you know how I feel about
Speaker 4: my guy. I loved it until he woe those heck saw.
Speaker 4: Jim Duggan draws that he wokee to Tampa.
Speaker 3: Bay and through everything about that man's underwear right.
Speaker 6: Now, yeah we did. He left them in town man.
Speaker 3: Geez Okay.
Speaker 2: So Denver feels like it's really predicated on how Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson progresses under Sean Payton feels like it's like a
Speaker 2: very winnable game like that.
Speaker 3: It's early. Next one is tough Man.
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's at home what do you guys think, London
Speaker 2: extend that's my next.
Speaker 6: Team, and.
Speaker 5: Think we put I think we put the league on notice.
Speaker 5: Buffalo I played their great organization. Sean McDermot has has
Speaker 5: that team player at a high level, but at some
Speaker 5: point during the end of the year, it was like
Speaker 5: missing something. They didn't add the two relying on throwing
Speaker 5: the football. They didn't add a running back to the
Speaker 5: to their team. In terms of being a draft, I
Speaker 5: just don't think Buffalo will be as good as they
Speaker 5: were a year ago.
Speaker 6: Can they win the NF I mean the AFC.
Speaker 4: North with AFC e's with with the Jets over there
Speaker 4: and and the Dolphins over there, So with a hard division.
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be a test too with Buffalo.
Speaker 4: Like we played two back to bed quarterbacks. I think
Speaker 4: one trying to get back to where he was and
Speaker 4: one trying to take it to the next level.
Speaker 3: Well, I also think we think we win.
Speaker 2: I think with Josh Allen, the thing that sticks out
Speaker 2: to me about him in his season like they just
Speaker 2: are putting so much on his plate. So can they
Speaker 2: kind of self scout and say, hey, we need to
Speaker 2: kind of diversify run the football little bit.
Speaker 5: But they didn't do that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But you know, Dave all left right,
Speaker 2: we'll see in the building. Can that new OC mature
Speaker 2: and understand how to maximize Allan and I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't see their draft picks and then what they
Speaker 5: added in a free agent free agency would have said
Speaker 5: what they wanted to do. Sure, they didn't really add
Speaker 5: a top flight running back to this mix.
Speaker 6: There's the last couple of tight ends the draft.
Speaker 5: Their first round pick was a tight end. Yep, who's
Speaker 5: he's a pass catcher?
Speaker 6: Yes, they got knocks there too. They still got a
Speaker 6: legit tight end.
Speaker 2: There is that guy, big slot receiver.
Speaker 3: Catch a lot of balls? They did. They did grab
Speaker 3: draft to guard o Cyrus Torrents in the second round.
Speaker 6: I didn't like Osias Torrens. I thought he had hit fee.
Speaker 2: I think that speaks to flushto because he is a
Speaker 2: better pass protector than a run blocker. And like they
Speaker 2: want to throw the football right, so get a good
Speaker 2: pass protecting garden. They're help Allen out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Buffalo is a three. Let's not act like series.
Speaker 4: We're gonna lose a game out of these first three.
Speaker 4: I would have to say that most definitely might be buffer.
Speaker 2: So I mean you mentioned first three, I mean first
Speaker 2: four games here Philadelphia Eagles, uh at Philly. That seems
Speaker 2: like a very tough one week for the season.
Speaker 3: Smooth.
Speaker 2: What do you guys think about that? I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's the class of the division. Obviously super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Last time he was in Philadelphia, we ain't fried Chicken.
Speaker 3: I know, But do you think I think they're gonna
Speaker 3: be ready for that.
Speaker 6: They are gonna be ready, and they did. We we
Speaker 6: were fried Chicken, fried Eagle.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, no, I think
Speaker 4: they're I think they're gonna be more youthful. But when
Speaker 4: you take away a lot of guys, Hargrave, a lot
Speaker 4: of guys that they took away, He's gonna take them
Speaker 4: a minute to get on their page. Nikobe Dean gonna
Speaker 4: be their staring linebacker.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 6: He got drafted last year, Joydan Davis got drafted last year.
Speaker 6: He'll be coming up. Jalen Cardon. So they got dudes.
Speaker 4: They got still got Fletcher Cox, they still got Darius Slay,
Speaker 4: still got a both of they dudes. I just think
Speaker 4: on defense this our office gonna have to catch them
Speaker 4: off going.
Speaker 5: Not wondering what what Philly's offense is gonna look like
Speaker 5: under a new offensive coordinator with Shane Styk and him
Speaker 5: not being the head coach and Indy you know, what's that?
Speaker 5: I know Nick Siriano, he's offensive guy. He'll probably play
Speaker 5: a major role in the in the in the play calling,
Speaker 5: things like that. But what's that? What is that offense
Speaker 5: gonna look like under under the new OC? Going into Philly,
Speaker 5: beating them again in Philly, after that everything, after that
Speaker 5: Monday night game, the way we ran that ball down.
Speaker 6: We won't do that. We won't beat them that way again.
Speaker 5: The Hogs would have been had to be proud of that.
Speaker 6: They were smiling.
Speaker 4: Even Chris Samius was smiling hill Way with one hundred
Speaker 4: and thirty pounds, but he was even smiling.
Speaker 5: Hey, he used to be that big pro Little.
Speaker 6: Used to be a rapper. Now he just seen the blue.
Speaker 3: It's just a Losster. What are we doing here?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the loss, I think smoothly towards We.
Speaker 6: Listened to London already.
Speaker 3: What are you saying?
Speaker 6: I said, hello, I feel like.
Speaker 4: We're gonna give them, but I feel like we're gonna
Speaker 4: beat them at home this year, so I gotta give
Speaker 4: him that game.
Speaker 3: Okay. So, and you have lost the Buffalo too, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going five hundred in the first month.
Speaker 5: Five hundred and the first four I gave us three
Speaker 5: and one.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, where you go.
Speaker 3: I'm leaning more towards Fred on that one.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: I see, I thought you try to be educated.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm trying to be football.
Speaker 6: That's what I.
Speaker 3: Educated.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 2: So Week five, we got the Chicago Bears at home FedEx.
Speaker 5: Field Thursday night. This reminds me of last year we played.
Speaker 4: The worst threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 5: We played up Thursday night football in Chicago and Julia
Speaker 5: Brad We're talking before the game and I tell them,
Speaker 5: I say, I feel like it's gonna be an offensive explosions.
Speaker 6: Gonna go off with three.
Speaker 5: The halftop, like where are the fireworks?
Speaker 4: They got better though the Bears got a ton they
Speaker 4: got they got better.
Speaker 6: I think we can win this game.
Speaker 4: Not while we're there, Logan, you can get Wald to
Speaker 4: Payton Becky's Kangaroos shoes a terrible sho game is terrible.
Speaker 4: But I think they're going to be a challenge. I
Speaker 4: think we win a game. I think we leave Soldier.
Speaker 6: Field with a big games. Here is here that makes
Speaker 6: it even better.
Speaker 5: We're all in that game.
Speaker 3: Only there. I'd say, does Justin Field's progressives a passer?
Speaker 6: This he does?
Speaker 2: And this is a game that I wish it was
Speaker 2: a little bit later in the year because I think
Speaker 2: Field is gonna get banged up.
Speaker 5: Like that, because if he's going to progress, it's gonna
Speaker 5: be a slow progression earlier in the year. And they
Speaker 5: got they drafted a rookie, that that dog, they drafted
Speaker 5: that tight end, I mean that tackle out of Tennessee.
Speaker 4: No, no, right, no, I mean how done right.
Speaker 3: Everyone's been high on Darnell right, he's said.
Speaker 6: He was gonna go hide in the draft, but what
Speaker 6: did he go?
Speaker 5: Number teen probably had him going in the second him
Speaker 5: going in and Logan, I remember having this conversation with you.
Speaker 5: You didn't think you he liked because you did not
Speaker 5: feel like he was worth being drafted in the first round.
Speaker 6: He did you right?
Speaker 2: You stopped that? No, sorry, because that was early in
Speaker 2: the process, and I thought, let me speak on we
Speaker 2: go all right. I thought dB was going to be
Speaker 2: the value at sixteen. They went dB I thought, I
Speaker 2: thought Darnell right at the time was gonna be available
Speaker 2: in the second round. I did, But you know, Matthew Bergern,
Speaker 2: Dwan Jones, those types of guys, so I thought to me,
Speaker 2: cheer them up. We'll talk about that more detail later.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Atlanta Falcons. Got to move on. Man,
Speaker 2: I hate Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Foul Well, they drafted Matthew Bergern.
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, I hate Atlanta. Fact that my wife
Speaker 6: favorite team.
Speaker 4: She held me that when we got divorced, by the way,
Speaker 4: on a Falcon's faith, Oh by the way, I'll see.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: So okay Atlanta Falcons. I think they're a team that's
Speaker 2: kind of on the rise. You know, they have a
Speaker 2: very strong identity. I think defensively they're a little up
Speaker 2: and down. Obviously they're not overly talented. Try to address
Speaker 2: that this offseason. What do you guys think about.
Speaker 6: How do you feel about the Big three?
Speaker 4: How do you feel about Kyle Pitts, who I think
Speaker 4: is one of the most talented tight ends in the league.
Speaker 4: They got Drake London, they wide receiver, a big, tall,
Speaker 4: six five wide receiver.
Speaker 6: And now they got b John Robinson at the running
Speaker 6: back it's.
Speaker 5: Don't get them.
Speaker 3: Really, you believe in riddle futsh just not obviously.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe in real just doing a question I
Speaker 6: believe in Really.
Speaker 4: I think I think he's good enough not to lose
Speaker 4: the game. And I think he's a step better than
Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 5: That's what I said about the about the Falcons coach
Speaker 5: by our guy lot Man. The Falcons they can run
Speaker 5: that ball they added to their strap. There's no best money.
Speaker 5: They make no mistake what their ideentity is. We're gonna
Speaker 5: run the football. We're gonna run it down your throat
Speaker 5: them two backs they got out of since they just
Speaker 5: added B John Robinson. But it's soldly right. But B
Speaker 5: John Rodgers and that was that offensive line had success
Speaker 5: against our d line last year.
Speaker 6: I offen D line and they added the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Yea. The right tackles the first round pick. There, they're
Speaker 3: right guards the first round pick.
Speaker 2: The center is the second round pick, the left guards
Speaker 2: the second round pick, and the left tackle is Matthew
Speaker 2: Jake Matthews is the first round pick. So they have
Speaker 2: invested heavily in that group. I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be a tough match. This is one of the games
Speaker 2: that kind of ripples through the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: How banged up do you get after this game?
Speaker 3: Can you stay?
Speaker 6: This is a pick them?
Speaker 4: This is the game right here that would be won
Speaker 4: by a turnover for a touchdown. Team either a special
Speaker 4: teams play something odd is going to win this game.
Speaker 5: I think we lose that game.
Speaker 3: You think we lose that game.
Speaker 2: I also think there might be a little bit of
Speaker 2: regression in the run game because they don't have the
Speaker 2: rushing ability of Marcus Mariotto.
Speaker 5: You got damn Desmond Ritter, but they.
Speaker 3: Didn't use him that way when he was playing.
Speaker 6: I can say he's a guy when he comes to running.
Speaker 3: All right, So lost win for you? Fred? What we got?
Speaker 6: He hate the Falcons, so yeah it's win. Okay, all right,
Speaker 6: I'm praying for a victory.
Speaker 2: Enough, right so that gets us the Week seven, we
Speaker 2: got the New York Giants first time of the year
Speaker 2: up at med Life. Yeap, So what do you guys
Speaker 2: think about this one tough matchup for.
Speaker 5: The WAT match up? You know, the the Giants were
Speaker 5: a lot better football team than I thought they would.
Speaker 5: I think defensively they started to uh really jail under Mardell.
Speaker 5: I think that I think the Giants gonna win that game.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 6: First of all, we ain't beat the Giants in so long.
Speaker 4: Like, let's be honest, Daniel Jones, if he played US
Speaker 4: seventeen games a year, would be the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6: He had something that clicks.
Speaker 4: He's comfortable here, He's comfortable playing against id line, He's
Speaker 4: comfortable doing these things. I don't I don't know if
Speaker 4: the Giants take a step back, because when I look
Speaker 4: at a lot of their victories last year, they.
Speaker 6: Could have been losses. They could have EASi been losses.
Speaker 4: So out of all the teams in the NFC East
Speaker 4: for me to gauge, it's the hardest team for me
Speaker 4: to gates.
Speaker 6: And don't forget Saquon still holding out right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the tag though. I think they also
Speaker 2: did a good job of bringing back some pieces. They
Speaker 2: drafted banks in the first round like they did they.
Speaker 5: Traded for Darren Waller. Yeah, yeah, I think that's Week
Speaker 5: seven we played, the Giants gonna be on that football field.
Speaker 5: He's notice sitting out the whole year.
Speaker 6: The running backs they getting moody. They ain't getting paid.
Speaker 3: Well, Bell did that right today? Not great? Not great?
Speaker 3: Not great? So what do we got? Win? Loss?
Speaker 5: I go to them, I got with.
Speaker 3: The loss, all right, and then we gave Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: That's the second time we played Philadelphia in the first
Speaker 2: eight games at home.
Speaker 3: This time, same kind of analysis before. Do we win
Speaker 3: this one? How does it go on?
Speaker 6: Same analysis for me?
Speaker 4: But I told you we would lose them at home
Speaker 4: and we'll beat them at our home. So I'm saying
Speaker 4: this is the game and we split with them because
Speaker 4: I do feel and I ain't gonna run from this.
Speaker 4: We split with every team in the NFC East is
Speaker 4: one in one all three, I think, because I think
Speaker 4: the NFC East is we an inch apart from each other.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 6: It's not a lot of separation from us.
Speaker 4: Nobody has what I call a top five quarterback in
Speaker 4: the NFL in the division, but we do have top
Speaker 4: five units.
Speaker 6: I think Jalen.
Speaker 4: Hurts is the best quarterback in here, and he's the
Speaker 4: top tier quarterback.
Speaker 5: He played at the top five level last year. Can't
Speaker 5: he do it?
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 5: I think the Eagles. I think we win that game
Speaker 5: here at home. It's gonna be week a different animal.
Speaker 5: I don't expect our fans to allow those Eagles to
Speaker 5: come in Eagles fans to come in here and take
Speaker 5: over our stadium like they did a year go.
Speaker 6: Some days over, yeah, some days over. Giant is woke again.
Speaker 2: I need to point this out. I think in this
Speaker 2: stretch we kind of started a tough stretch for the team.
Speaker 2: We got the Atlanta Falcons, New York Giants, we've talked
Speaker 2: about Philadelphia Eagles. Then we go to Foxborough, New England
Speaker 2: for Week nine. It's it's kind of it's it's a
Speaker 2: rocky road here. Some good defenses, some tough, runt shig attacks,
Speaker 2: and obviously some big division rivals.
Speaker 3: What do you think about the Patriots?
Speaker 5: That's gonna be a we gonna have to see the
Speaker 5: creativity and the greatness see from Eric ban I mean,
Speaker 5: what's his creativity like from a play caller? Because you
Speaker 5: think they got that mastermind over there, Bill Belichick. Although
Speaker 5: he's not the defensive coordinator, dark Vader, he runs everything.
Speaker 5: What kind of scheme is he gonna have?
Speaker 4: I just think I just think these days New England
Speaker 4: is not who we we see New England through certain
Speaker 4: vises that they still the Juggernaut. They are not Juggers. Defensively,
Speaker 4: I think they're good, they're not great.
Speaker 6: Like when I said New England defenses, y'all.
Speaker 4: Could call out five people Tyaw Richard Seymour like they
Speaker 4: don't have those guys anymore, thank you. And now the
Speaker 4: offense by Matt Jones, I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2: Bili Bryan's back. They actually have a real offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia, who is a defensive coach calling offensive players
Speaker 2: is out. So I think that could be lead to
Speaker 2: a better product from.
Speaker 4: It'll be a much better physically player for player, just
Speaker 4: a better football team than New England.
Speaker 5: The problem is that I played in that stadium multiple
Speaker 5: times when I was in in Buffalo playing in the
Speaker 5: s C East. It's extremely I know they had Tom Brady.
Speaker 5: I'm not even talking about that aspect of it. I'm
Speaker 5: just talking about playing in that stadium. Those fans. Those
Speaker 5: fans are rabbit. They they love the Patriots. It's gonna
Speaker 5: be a difficult, difficult place to play.
Speaker 6: I think we just got better play. I think every
Speaker 6: group has better.
Speaker 4: What they did to us bring up this stuff give
Speaker 4: me CT now, I'm gonna tell you like this, don't
Speaker 4: forget in one. When I first got here, we was
Speaker 4: the last team to humiliate New England. They went on
Speaker 4: the run me and Champ and we beat them to death.
Speaker 4: So they can be beat And I think this team
Speaker 4: don't look at New England like that.
Speaker 6: I think this team is gonna go push them around.
Speaker 2: I think is just like a really well coach football team,
Speaker 2: and they always wear coach and that's the thing that
Speaker 2: makes them tough. And also thinking interesting storyline here, Christian
Speaker 2: Zales drafted by right, So we'll get to.
Speaker 3: See Forbes and Christian Zales overrated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, we'll find out Christians out over We picked
Speaker 4: the right gun.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, you know I agree with you,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying we'll get to see it a lot.
Speaker 5: I trust moved on Corners.
Speaker 3: Yeah you should.
Speaker 5: If he says it, I believe he's gotta.
Speaker 3: Trust smooth on a lot of stuff. Right.
Speaker 5: Hey, that relationship advice.
Speaker 3: Here you go.
Speaker 4: Hey, you need your cancel that have been and went
Speaker 4: through some pain. Like if I'm going to a drug canceling,
Speaker 4: he needs to be in dad drugs before.
Speaker 5: You're covering that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need somebody that know the Dorks. It has
Speaker 4: been our roses. Want somebody to tell me how to
Speaker 4: get out of this hole?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking again, now, we're going to Seattle
Speaker 2: for week ten. Okay, that's a tough road trip, very far,
Speaker 2: very difficult environment to play in. I think they're kind
Speaker 2: of on the uptick. A team that was in a rebuilding.
Speaker 2: It was in a rebuild last off season. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, looks like they're pretty good. Tyreek willing on
Speaker 2: the back end, almost one rookie of the year, two
Speaker 2: young offensive I've been playing.
Speaker 6: Well, Enigma.
Speaker 3: They just got it draft and.
Speaker 7: They have.
Speaker 6: How you running round? Hey, listen to me.
Speaker 4: Gino Smith is at to prove people that he's a
Speaker 4: legit starter in this league.
Speaker 3: You think he regresses this year, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's too hungry. He's been there before.
Speaker 4: You know how I feel not to have a job.
Speaker 4: You haven't seen him balling out in our season. You
Speaker 4: haven't seen him showing itself all over TV. You haven't
Speaker 4: seen him doing nothing but what they do Seattle. That's
Speaker 4: gonna that's always a competition for us, Like we always
Speaker 4: end up playing Seattle during the year, and it's always
Speaker 4: a burn Burn. Can they beat him? Yes, I don't
Speaker 4: know if we go over there and beat them, we're.
Speaker 5: Doing and the way that we go out there and
Speaker 5: do it, it's not by going out there and think
Speaker 5: we're gonna throw the football all over the yard. It's
Speaker 5: by a lot of shortenings. Brian Robinson Jr. Chris Rodriguez,
Speaker 5: you know, short game. Just pound them, Antonio Gibson. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be a game where you going there and established
Speaker 5: and not just happened to run. You need to run.
Speaker 5: For about one eighty they were giving up one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty on the ground.
Speaker 3: That was the weekly worst run defense the NFL.
Speaker 6: But didn't they They had Graves, hard Graves.
Speaker 5: They brought one guy. They got one guy. I can't
Speaker 5: think of his name right now, but they needed three guys. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you're still too short.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Weatherspoon's also up there at the other corner. So really
Speaker 2: going to be tough to throw the football against that
Speaker 2: back end. Also a fun fact, Washington is one of
Speaker 2: the last three trips of Seattle. Did not expect to
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 6: Got that on our little We match up well against it.
Speaker 6: No matter who they got.
Speaker 3: All right, we love them. We got the New York Giants.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think.
Speaker 5: We went that one? It's home. That's split.
Speaker 6: That's much split. Like I'm with the NFC.
Speaker 5: We already talked enough about the Giants. Let's move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's move on.
Speaker 6: Thanksgiving Day, back Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: I'm just happy to be back playing on things given
Speaker 4: they used to belong to us.
Speaker 6: So I'm just happy to be playing on that day now.
Speaker 4: I'm happy I ain't playing physicals, but happy to be
Speaker 4: watching a game on Thanksgiving versus the Cowboys and did
Speaker 4: I And that's it?
Speaker 2: Dallas, right, Dallas at Dallas And I think that's the
Speaker 2: first time we're seeing Dallas. Uh this season, the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three season. What do you guys think of a
Speaker 2: damn what they've done this offseason? Drive Fixed. I think
Speaker 2: they've done a nice job on the defense.
Speaker 6: And I'm afraid of them keeping.
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons moving edge full time.
Speaker 6: I like that though. I think that works out better
Speaker 6: you think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Edge is one side of the field, and I could
Speaker 4: double team him at the end when he liked flowing.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, when he's free flowing, it's so hard to
Speaker 4: figure out where's he gonna be it.
Speaker 2: They bring in Massie Smith, probably the best run stopping
Speaker 2: defensive tackle.
Speaker 6: The drive they lost on that window. What do they wanted?
Speaker 6: A man with fools?
Speaker 4: They picked Mosie Smith with the like six pick that
Speaker 4: they wanted inside scooping.
Speaker 6: Listen, I do I do my homework now.
Speaker 4: Actually, actually Jerry Jones came out and said it can't.
Speaker 3: You know, hitch on the sidekicks.
Speaker 5: It's said when I look at you, look at what
Speaker 5: did what the Dallas Cowboys did. I like the trade
Speaker 5: for Stepan Gilmore. They needed a number in the corner.
Speaker 5: He's still he still can go.
Speaker 6: Out and be your number one.
Speaker 5: Be it. Well not Brandon Cook, I'm talking about you
Speaker 5: talk about Sean play at the number one. He can,
Speaker 5: he can play at a high level. That that Dallas
Speaker 5: defense is really good, really good. Officily, I think Dallas
Speaker 5: takes a step back. No Ezekiel Elliott, Tony hurting that offense.
Speaker 5: I think he was hurting with Tony Pollard is injured. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they didn't the running backs they've added like yeah, no, no,
Speaker 5: no Doubtt tight end?
Speaker 6: Who did they?
Speaker 2: They drafted shootingmaker from Michigan in the second round. Maybe
Speaker 2: a little bit of a reach. And they brought in
Speaker 2: Jones from Tampa Bay last year, the former second round
Speaker 2: pick out.
Speaker 5: Of US even on his third team, thank you.
Speaker 2: So they have done some cycling. I think defense has
Speaker 2: gotten a lot.
Speaker 5: Better for don't think the offensive offense has.
Speaker 3: Gotta say the same.
Speaker 2: And I do think if any quarterback in the division,
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott needs pieces around him to be good.
Speaker 6: No, he hasn't.
Speaker 3: It's immaculate.
Speaker 5: Dallas's offensive line is as good as we've being They're
Speaker 5: not as good as we we think they are.
Speaker 3: I totally agree with that. So win lost Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: What do you think I'm still with that being said,
Speaker 5: I'm still thinking. I still think Dallas wins that that game,
Speaker 5: and I think I.
Speaker 6: Think I get a victory with my fried turkey.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll split on that, all right. So
Speaker 2: then we got a couple of days off, ten days
Speaker 2: off for the next game. We got the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 2: at home at FedEx and that is a track team
Speaker 2: down there.
Speaker 7: My guy, like, we got a Conner back. They running
Speaker 7: four three to man to but from Illinois, very supposed
Speaker 7: to be. Do you think our defensive line can dominate tool?
Speaker 7: Because this way the real battle.
Speaker 2: To me, their offensive line in Miami's struggled sense too
Speaker 2: has gotten there obviously, So I definitely think that here's.
Speaker 5: Here's here's what scares me about Miami's offense is the
Speaker 5: offensive scheme.
Speaker 3: Yes, we saw how.
Speaker 5: Much trouble we had with Kyle Shadow and that that.
Speaker 6: Scheme linebackers to him.
Speaker 4: This when you need your linebackers to come to play
Speaker 4: dead game.
Speaker 5: Because run deep, deep, crossing ross too.
Speaker 4: Here go like, do they gonna have time? Do they
Speaker 4: feel like they gonna have time to get to them?
Speaker 2: I will say this about that offense down there, they
Speaker 2: did an excellent job of getting fast receivers deep into
Speaker 2: the defense quickly.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: They also do a ton of play action, which usually
Speaker 2: the gates pass rush. They do a lot of RPO.
Speaker 2: They do a good job insulating a subpar offensive line.
Speaker 2: Can we handle the speed because they also drafted a
Speaker 2: chain the guy from An and M who ran a
Speaker 2: ten one, one hundred and the fastest forty for the
Speaker 2: running backs of the combine. Right, they've got Moster again,
Speaker 2: another ten one guy.
Speaker 6: They have a track team.
Speaker 5: If if we're playing against them, we're gonna have to
Speaker 5: eliminate the explosive plays, force them to kick field goals,
Speaker 5: and we win that game, don't You cannot give up.
Speaker 3: The Also that defense on there is sneak he good.
Speaker 4: Sneaking good, and it's then a game where physicality outweighs
Speaker 4: speed speed.
Speaker 2: Hopefully hopefully that FedEx crash Man. So those people down
Speaker 2: a little bit, maybe it rains a little so so
Speaker 2: maybe what do you guys when lost?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 5: I'm going with a win? Okay, what do you get
Speaker 5: it done? We get it done?
Speaker 3: You got something from lost?
Speaker 6: Well, we can't beat everybody. We eighteen and I gave.
Speaker 5: I had a loss against Dallas, and.
Speaker 6: I think we beat team lost.
Speaker 4: My two teams that we beat in the nf I
Speaker 4: mean the a f C East, the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3: That's what do you got?
Speaker 6: Were not? I'm just saying that the Jets or the
Speaker 6: Dolphins legits.
Speaker 3: We beat the Jets, not the Dolphins. I think the
Speaker 3: Dolphins are worse than the Justice here.
Speaker 4: I don't, I think because I think that the Dophins
Speaker 4: got something the Jets don't got, and that's cohesion.
Speaker 6: If they've been together for a second, well, the Jets,
Speaker 6: you just.
Speaker 4: Plugged and play and I don't think Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 4: the mercenary that Matthew Stafford was. And Tom Brady like,
Speaker 4: we can go win a championship in one year. I
Speaker 4: don't know if he did mercenary.
Speaker 2: All right, I got you, So you got a sidetrack there,
Speaker 2: But we got to buy We fourteen late bye. Not
Speaker 2: that bad though, because we got two Thursday night games
Speaker 2: earlier in the year.
Speaker 3: What do you think is that going to be a
Speaker 3: big deal?
Speaker 4: Not really keep giving us these lake bydes and we
Speaker 4: got the fifth hardest schedule eighthar I thought it was
Speaker 4: the field.
Speaker 6: It feels like the field.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a feeling.
Speaker 4: So all I'm saying is I would love for this
Speaker 4: to be in two weeks earlier, three weeks earlier.
Speaker 5: But we do have the Thursday night games week four,
Speaker 5: and then we have got We'll probably appreciate it when
Speaker 5: it has when it happens now, especially with the last
Speaker 5: five games.
Speaker 2: So we got to buy going in the week fifteen,
Speaker 2: We're going to La playing the Rams, right, Rams rebuild.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a lot to say here,
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 6: We're gonna beat them.
Speaker 3: It feels like it. Yeah, yeah, Stafford elbow ten and night.
Speaker 6: Every schedule has like fourteen that you.
Speaker 4: Look at the schedule be like, oh, we got them, right,
Speaker 4: we got them, But well, we don't know the injury
Speaker 4: report at this time. We're looking at week fifteen. We
Speaker 4: don't know their injury report and they don't know.
Speaker 5: Our well, well, the injury report will be predicated on
Speaker 5: the record of the team, especially with a team like
Speaker 5: the Rams. If you out there and you lose and
Speaker 5: you know you're not going anywhere, yeah, some of them
Speaker 5: guys may tap out and I'll be playing later on
Speaker 5: in the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. So win in LA.
Speaker 2: Then we're going to when we got the New York
Speaker 2: Jets up at MetLife again, So a lot of trips
Speaker 2: up there to New York this year.
Speaker 5: That's that's gonna be. You say, Aaron Rodgers's not immursed.
Speaker 5: They smooth. Think about this. You and I we played.
Speaker 5: You know what it feels like when somebody gives up
Speaker 5: on you. I truly that year you're gonna be so motivated.
Speaker 4: But guess what me and you didn't do London. We
Speaker 4: can go on a darkness retreat for two weeks. We
Speaker 4: didn't go taking Hay.
Speaker 6: Shoots and eating mushroom. We just got it together and said,
Speaker 6: you know what she left me.
Speaker 4: She divorced me. Open to go mayor or somebody else.
Speaker 4: That's what we did.
Speaker 5: I did. I get that this guy, this is this
Speaker 5: is a new age man, this modern NFL modern you know,
Speaker 5: treatments and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 6: Listen, we had an organist retreat next week.
Speaker 5: Have you ever?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, the darkness retreat is good analysis, Fred. Thanks.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Also let's talk about the defensive personnel. One of the
Speaker 2: best defensive young defenses in the NFL. Right, got some
Speaker 2: interesting skip players on offense there for the Jets. Can
Speaker 2: that offense maximize them with Aaron Rodgers at the helm?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think Wilson, Garrett Wilson is the truth on the outside.
Speaker 6: I think that when they get.
Speaker 4: A relationship going, I don't want to say what Breese
Speaker 4: is gonna be coming off of the A c L.
Speaker 4: They're saying too much. But taking plug and play a
Speaker 4: running back. I'm more infactuated with the offensive line. And
Speaker 4: they went back to back years drafting top five Michale
Speaker 4: Becked and he's supposed to have been lost seventy pounds
Speaker 4: right now, so he's supposed to be like three to twenty, yeah,
Speaker 4: because he.
Speaker 6: Was three ninety even three ninety.
Speaker 4: So they got two first round as a tackle that
Speaker 4: they're gonna figure out.
Speaker 6: Are they gonna read them up? Are they gonna sign them?
Speaker 6: Are they good enough for them?
Speaker 5: You know that back the loves football?
Speaker 3: Man, that is a big question.
Speaker 5: I just questioned whether he loves football, But I just.
Speaker 2: I think the frest of loves it if he's healthy.
Speaker 2: Elijah Arry Tucker first round pick.
Speaker 4: They got three first rounders on that line with all
Speaker 4: other telling don't forget Soauths guard and on one of
Speaker 4: the best coners on defense, Quinn Williams, I mean Williams
Speaker 4: the d tackle. They got players everywhere, but do we
Speaker 4: know who they are?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well McDonald the fourth in the first round this year.
Speaker 2: Ever awesome players.
Speaker 5: There gonna be just gonna be legit, man.
Speaker 3: But I really think it depends on the psychology. Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 3: like Gus we're talking.
Speaker 5: Is locked in. He is locked in.
Speaker 6: He's a devil. I ain't really to say that.
Speaker 5: And Deve, I mean most of them are like that
Speaker 5: that most of them quarterback. He's he was in a
Speaker 5: place for eighteen years, they didn't draft the first round
Speaker 5: receiver for him, and at no point in time they
Speaker 5: drafted quarterback.
Speaker 4: He's just ain't gonna get because I watched Tom Brady
Speaker 4: throw it to you know what I'm saying his career.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is when they struggled on offense and
Speaker 5: they still wouldn't draft a wide receiver for him, he
Speaker 5: was pissed off. And he can tell you when you
Speaker 5: saw that press conference, he had need to take the slamsch.
Speaker 6: But he can't be moody like that in New York.
Speaker 6: They will chew him up.
Speaker 5: His relationship was totally different because he had been there
Speaker 5: for so long and he I'm the MVP, and y'all
Speaker 5: won't give me what I need to be even better.
Speaker 5: I'm tired of y'all. I'm done with y'all. You He
Speaker 5: was going to work surly. Probably bad move, bad person
Speaker 5: to be around.
Speaker 6: So he's refreshed. They couldn't get it.
Speaker 5: They have a receiver get opened against him, and they
Speaker 5: kept dropping balls.
Speaker 3: Also, didn't you didn't help anybody out.
Speaker 2: So I think obviously I think we canna agree that
Speaker 2: whereon Rodgers is at for that week sixteen matchup is
Speaker 2: gonna predicate.
Speaker 3: Wins, gonna be out stand right, are gonna win that game?
Speaker 6: We're gonna win that game.
Speaker 5: No, I think the just win.
Speaker 2: Because Fletch is high on Aaron Rodgers. Right, let's get
Speaker 2: the week Week seventeen.
Speaker 6: I think, hey, suss.
Speaker 3: Week seventeen, San Francisco forty nine Ers, that's gonna be talking.
Speaker 4: At one time, we got to punch the bully in
Speaker 4: the damn I at one point we gotta look a
Speaker 4: him in his eyes say you ain't taking my lunch
Speaker 4: money today. And us in the forty nine Ers has
Speaker 4: been going back and forth ever since they got Trent, no,
Speaker 4: before they got Trent. So this is a Deebo Samuels
Speaker 4: Trent Williams versus our defense slug fish, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give our guys to age. We gonna beat them. Guys
Speaker 4: had it with the forty nine.
Speaker 3: Don't forget about that defense, number one ranked defense.
Speaker 6: We don't care about their defense.
Speaker 3: In our offense score points. So it's the question.
Speaker 6: I believe in the Young air Wolf. I believe in
Speaker 6: Sam Half.
Speaker 3: I believe you're giving them a win.
Speaker 5: I'm giving them giving them a w I believe of
Speaker 5: a team whooping you that number one defense they had
Speaker 5: Hose and Taylor Hendikey actually played pretty good against and
Speaker 5: I know we on the podcast a couple of different
Speaker 5: protection schemes, and I think, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna run the bust over anybody. But Logan, do
Speaker 5: you agree that Taylor Honecke made some plays against that
Speaker 5: defense last year?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I would agree, But I would also say that they
Speaker 2: came with a game plan that was against the number
Speaker 2: one rushing rank defense that was like, we're gonna run
Speaker 2: the ball a ton, and they just didn't manage the
Speaker 2: game effectively.
Speaker 5: Man, you want to go line fourth and well, you
Speaker 5: can't get in the end zone.
Speaker 6: Y'all would grown me if y'all do all that crying.
Speaker 6: What the baby going? I'm going with.
Speaker 4: San Francisco, No love Love.
Speaker 8: He got a no I mean, I'm going with, Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna Washington.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I mean I'm gonna Washington. He got a man crush
Speaker 5: on Kyle Showers.
Speaker 6: Before we play, we take my call off.
Speaker 4: I definitely come on now, you the one got him
Speaker 4: hired at the forty Niners.
Speaker 3: I mean, we take it to the second. They've got
Speaker 3: a very good roster.
Speaker 4: But we always played them hard and tight, and one
Speaker 4: day and one at one point we go to the
Speaker 4: next level and I think we are I think this
Speaker 4: is where all the company is gonna going, going into
Speaker 4: the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Ryan's ain't there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they just find a way to like restock.
Speaker 2: They lost their offensive coordinator tw years in a row.
Speaker 2: Didn't affect the office.
Speaker 5: Come on, that's that's that's that's not true. That's not
Speaker 5: comparing apples to apple. But Kyle, what played did Mike
Speaker 5: mcdaill's calling in San Francisco?
Speaker 3: I mean he did a whole game played?
Speaker 5: Did he call?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Exactly? Who did they really lose?
Speaker 6: That's the fair point. A pair of lips and tailor lines.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: And the peace they resistance? Week eighteen versus Dallas. What
Speaker 2: do we got winning at San Francisco? Do we get
Speaker 2: a win last game of the season against those Absolutely?
Speaker 6: Did I pick us the win the first day of
Speaker 6: the day?
Speaker 3: I got No, it was on Thursday.
Speaker 4: He picked up the win on thanks game because we're
Speaker 4: gonna be happy to be back.
Speaker 5: Because he was gonna eat turkey.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna lose the game, fellas, because we got
Speaker 4: it like, I just think this the vision is back.
Speaker 4: So I'm giving everybody just one and one against each team.
Speaker 5: I don't know when it's going to win that one, Okay,
Speaker 5: I gotta win.
Speaker 2: I tried to keep track of the records here, but
Speaker 2: I haven't been able to. So how many wins on
Speaker 2: the season?
Speaker 3: Uh, Fred? And how many wins?
Speaker 4: I'm going eleven wins, eleven wins, eleven wins.
Speaker 5: I'm going with twelve twelve? All right?
Speaker 6: What about you logo ten?
Speaker 3: It was like a ten wins. I mean, Vegas has
Speaker 3: a six and a half ten ship. Last year they
Speaker 3: got it right on the nose pretty.
Speaker 4: Much well, because you know what seven and a half,
Speaker 4: you know we are going to get going through trials
Speaker 4: and triplations at the end of the So we went
Speaker 4: through some things, so you know, listen, this year, I
Speaker 4: feel like, help to chase your monted swet hunt for
Speaker 4: a contract paid pain.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Jamie Davis coming into his own Saint Juice, a good
Speaker 4: full year. A Manuel fourbes over there picking balls off,
Speaker 4: making everybody stand up, left hand up every time he touching.
Speaker 4: Like what about Johann Dotson going in the second year
Speaker 4: taking it to the next level.
Speaker 6: Oh, listen to me with e B.
Speaker 4: I think the number one player that's gonna benefit from
Speaker 4: every B enemy it's Curtis Samuels.
Speaker 6: Like Curtis Samuel is gonna have a year of all years.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is living wins get us in
Speaker 4: and once we in the tournament, it don't matter how
Speaker 4: you got in the tournament. And that's when we're gonna
Speaker 4: start to enforce our wheel on people, cause I think
Speaker 4: our office line gonna be better than people think they are.
Speaker 3: All right, do you think, uh, you know it'd be
Speaker 3: helps me out to play calling, all right?
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 3: So I got ten wins for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even went from Fred twelve rings.
Speaker 5: I didn't. I did not make us seventeen and old
Speaker 5: friend is a lot.
Speaker 4: The last time we won, the last time we won
Speaker 4: twelve win we won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Man, they only had sixteen games.
Speaker 6: Is That's all I'm saying. Being a wile since we
Speaker 6: won Twitter, we ain't. Since Flow Model TV, we never
Speaker 6: won twelve games.
Speaker 5: Just let's be honest, man, that's a lot of times
Speaker 5: you even know what the flow model.
Speaker 4: I don't even know the logan. Most of the time
Speaker 4: I be shocked I'll be throwing names out there. He
Speaker 4: be like, who is this?
Speaker 5: I am it's a floor model, but we got to
Speaker 5: say flow model.
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: Is it? Wait? Does it like sit on the floor?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, you've never seen a big T like I came.
Speaker 4: We had a flow model TV with a lift TV
Speaker 4: on top of it. Yeah, that's how we got that.
Speaker 5: You don't turn the bottom of them because's probably broke.
Speaker 6: It's broke a piece of the table. Steak fun TV
Speaker 6: for another TV.
Speaker 3: I respect that. All right. So this is great contact, guys.
Speaker 3: Really appreciate you having on the show.
Speaker 2: If you like contact like this, make sure you check
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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, guys. It was always good having you in talent.
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Speaker 5: Oh Man,