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Clayton Kershaw strikeout number three thousand, 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: almost if you were to borrow from Howie Rose, if 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: you're a scriptwriter and you believe in these kinds of things, 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: The hundredth pitch of the night, Final pitch of the 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: night for Kershaw, ending the sixth inning his signature pitch 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: strikeout looking on the outside corner. Uh, it was about 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: you as good as you could expect. The only thing 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: Dodgers losing this game right now, but still a lot 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: of ways to go. Top of the seventh inning. But 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the moment, and I gotta 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: say this right because I feel I'm mad right now. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: You're mad, mad, I'm mad. I'm mad for both of us. 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm mad for both. Why is that, buddy, Because what 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: if I said, and I'm gonna say, you're gonna go, 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, Jason, you guys suck. 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Uh? 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: What if I said the whole time, hey watch this 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: because I don't know that we're gonna see this again. Yeah, no, true, 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna see someone get to three thousand 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: strikeouts in Major League Baseball. Chris Sale, I like to think, 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: is gonna get there. 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: But that's not gearing. 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: It's you know it's not. But but I would right exactly, 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: I would say it's I'd say Chris Sail's probably a 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: little bit better than even chance of getting there as 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: long as he stays healthy. 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: Yes, but he's also played for what he has seventy teams. 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the more. 46 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: But ye cut a jersey in the like three hundred 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: he did, he did if you count. 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: If you count the number of the pieces he cut 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: that jersey up into and added to a strikeout total. 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: But like you look, he needs about four hundred more. 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: But for sev he's still pitching really well at the 52 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: age of thirty six. I would say a little bit 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: better than even chance he gets it. But this could 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: be the last time we see someone get there, right, 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: because there's nobody on the anywhere on the horizon that's 56 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: going to get to three thousand. It's it's it's a 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: dying art. There's so many pitching and and and hitting 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: milestones that we're just not going to see in Major 59 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: League Baseball anymore that we grew up seeing every few years. 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: We saw three thousands every few years. All right, Tom 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: sever is there, Nolan Ryan is there. We would see that, 62 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: but now or not. But here's why I'm mad, Because 63 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: the play before the strikeout was a play at third base. 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Michael Taylor tries to steal third and Max Munsey is 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: injured trying to make the tag. Right, they throw Michael 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: Taylor out, which leaves Kaeper to come up as the 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: final out of the inning, which Kershaw gets to strike out. 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: But Max Munsey was on the ground for a few minutes. 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. Uh, he could not put any 70 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: pressure on his leg, so he was helped off the 71 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: field by two Dodgers personnel. Right, it's like, oh my goodness, 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: what's going on with Max Munsey? Right, So Kershaw's warming 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: up because there was a big five minute break and 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: again this way you say, oh my god, Jason, you 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and Mike both suck. So we're the we finished talking 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: and we're getting ready to go to the update for 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Martin Weiss and so okay, that's great, and uh and 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: we're looking over going, Hey, let's see that replay because 79 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: they didn't show a replay of the month he play 80 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: at all. Was it a bad slide? Was it a 81 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: dirty slide? Was it Munsey just losing his balance? 82 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: Anything? 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: So we're what, Kershaw's warming up, and we're looking at 84 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: the and we're looking at the pitch on your on 85 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: your computer and we're watching months. He We're going, okay, 86 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: all right, no, does it does it look like it 87 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: was a dirty slight slides? In head first obviously. No, 88 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: the throw is a little bit high, a little bit 89 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: to the side. It looks awkward and holds him on 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: the base, right, Yeah, so it was awkward. Everything is fine, Okay, 91 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it was fine. You and I say, yeah, 92 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: it looked like it was just him coming down badly, okay. 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: And I look up and I see Dave Roberts with 94 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: his fist in the air, and I go, no, blanke 95 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: and way did we blanke and miss it? And we 96 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: missed it live because I looked up. He had just 97 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: gotten the strikeout and he was coming off, and I 98 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: see Dave Roberts with his fist in the area. Go, 99 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: that is a Clayton Kershaw three thousand strikeout fist. And 100 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: I kept saying, watch it. You may never see it again. 101 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: And we missed it live because we were looking at 102 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Max Munsey's injury. 103 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: We were concerned about whether he had a dislocated knee, 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: broken leg, whatever it might be, because we didn't get a 105 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 4: replay out on the broadcast. One eye up at the 106 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 4: screen and then looking back and catching the replay again. 107 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: And this was Kershaw working quickly as he got to 108 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: the hundredth pitch, and a willing victim. Uh in capra. 109 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be my memory of what I 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: guess it's better it's it actually is a unique memory 111 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: that it's not just yeah, you remember Kershaw's last three 112 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: thousand striking? 113 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 114 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, No, it's like, oh do you remember Kersharw's 115 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: three thousand strike up? 116 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 117 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: I remember? 118 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Because oh yeah, because Harton and I were looking at 119 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: Max months as well. 120 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: We were doing the job in between doing the job right, 121 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: because we were gonna come back and regardless of what 122 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: what transpired, we were still gonna be talking about the 123 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: months he play for the duration. Now, should we have 124 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 4: just said push it aside and get to the moment. Well, 125 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: if they had been a pop up the left field, 126 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: well we would have missed. We would have still been 127 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: trying to analyze what happened on that slide. So in 128 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: the end, yeah, we suck. I can't believe I missed it, 129 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna and I already got a couple of 130 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: texts of why are you not at the game the 131 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: whole thing, because it's my job. 132 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: It's not well, well it's also it's not one of 133 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: your pitchers. 134 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 4: You know, it's not white no, but it's still my team, 135 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: and normally I go see my team when they come 136 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: to town. 137 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I can see someone have history against Mike. That's like 138 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: going to a game to see the Washington Generals play, 139 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: like you know. 140 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: Well, but at this point, I mean they they they're 141 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: still up for two. 142 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, okay, I get it, but I mean, really, 143 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: it's not like it's it's history that's gonna happen against you. 144 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I can be okay with not seeing that. 145 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: Well, but I also thought, I mean, from my it's 146 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: wait for it, wait for it journalist. I'm sorry guys 147 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: that do that, but I'd be eminently. 148 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Okay if Tyre's Halliburton's long three bounced up and not 149 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: back through the hoop and the choking motion in game one, 150 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: even though it's historical, I'd been more than okay for 151 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: that to not happen. 152 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: No, I get that, But if you traveled there, I 153 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: spent a lot of money to see it, then you 154 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: would have been even I just did. 155 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: My my my memory. What's your memory of clayt kershows 156 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: three thousand strikeout. It's looking at the television and seeing 157 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts with his fist in the air. 158 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's Harmon and I battling on his iPad 159 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: trying to see if we could really ascertain was it 160 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: a shoulder into the knee? Was it that? 161 00:06:59,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Hell? 162 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: What was going on? And then we've got Dave Roberts 163 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: with the fist in the air. 164 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: A quick second, for a millisecond, in my head, it 165 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: was is he trying to tell everybody that Munzie's okay? Like, Hey, 166 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Munsey's okay. We just chalked about him, you know, Munsey's 167 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, he's okay. 168 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe that we missed it for that. 169 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 4: I can't believe for as much as we've been talking 170 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: about celebrating and basking in the moment and how much 171 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: we love kershaw right, because this is the guy and 172 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: Frostberger and I were talking about this, and it's something 173 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: we've talked about a lot on air, is Dave Roberts 174 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: has had his back right every time, because we look, 175 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: how many years ago was it we were talking about 176 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: the bacchiotomy and how many starts we were going to 177 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: get to celebrate this guy. How many way was he 178 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: gonna fall short of all these milestones because his body 179 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: was going to fail, so every fifth day when he 180 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: took the hill and when he even when he missed time. 181 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: It's like the anticipation of him getting back on the 182 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: mound was I don't know to the degree that you know, 183 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: golf fans, hey, is Tiger Woods getting get back out there, 184 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: and he's gonna be able to go best? 185 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: You know? 186 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: Day two? Is he gonna make a cut for Clayton Kershaw? 187 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: It's all right, look at all these big things that 188 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: are still out there for him. Is he going to 189 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: be able to get there? Will he still have the 190 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: physicality and the ability to go through the rehabs and 191 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: to do it and to see that moment. Yeah, I 192 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: didn't get to see Capra called out immediately, but then 193 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: we saw him arguing with the umpire, and then we 194 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: saw these six to eight minutes thereafter of Kershaw, the relief, 195 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: the excitement, that smile from ear to ear. You know, 196 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford somewhere is smiling. 197 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: You know they went to school together. Really yeah, I 198 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: don't you know that when people they talked about that. 199 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: You know what, I also got a bunch of people 200 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: that decided they were gonna bombard me with the picture 201 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: with the pictures from when they were younger, because they 202 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: were playing on the White Sox and they're wearing White 203 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: Sox jerseys. And also, if you know this, but Ryan 204 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick he went to Harvard. 205 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: Oh you know that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeff Fisher was 206 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: on the NFL's competition. To do this to me, that's 207 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: an overload. Tell you, I can't take all this telling 208 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: you things that no one talked about. My dad's gonna explode. 209 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: You should know. You should know all the things I 210 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: was trying to forget. Boy, it would have been great 211 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: if Kapper got just really mad and started arguing about 212 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: absolutely getting into the umpire's face and getting it. If 213 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: animal comes. 214 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: Running out and all of a sudden, you got a 215 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: Donnie Brooke at home plate. 216 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: He could have had a fist fight with the home 217 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Plate umpire and it wouldn't matter. The cameras are still 218 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna go. And there's Clayton Kershaw waving to the crowd. 219 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: Oh well, there's a fist fight going on behind them. 220 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Oh someone's pulled out a knife. This could get really 221 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: ugly fast. But look at Kershaw strikeout number three thousand. 222 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: Do you think we got Do you think we got 223 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: a decibel level for that crowd, because when we were 224 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: replaying right and then replaying the Kershaw moment, that might 225 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: be the loudest. I mean, if you could bottle it. 226 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: It's like the streams and monsters ink. Oh you get 227 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: a bottle that you get a fuel the city. And 228 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: now you talked about now to get past us? 229 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: What I gut. I still can't believe we bleep and 230 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: missed it, but we were doing our jump for Clay 231 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: and Kershaw. Right, this is strikeout number three thousand. This 232 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: is really the last milestone. This is the last personal 233 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: milestone that he would stick around for, right, because he's 234 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: not getting the three hundred wins. He's eight, you know, 235 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: at thirty he can barely. 236 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: Seventeen. 237 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: Right, you get to you get to three thousand, there's 238 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: no other He's not gonna win another Cy Young Award. Uh. 239 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: He's still pitching effectively, but this is the last thing 240 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: that is going to spur him on and say, okay, 241 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: now how much do I want to keep playing? Right? 242 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: You wonder how many more starts do we see Kenny 243 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: stay healthy? Will he state? You know? This year? I mean, 244 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: obviously the Dodgers are hitting an unprecedented time where They're 245 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: the best team in Major League Baseball, right, best record 246 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: in baseball. Otani is still thirty years old and they're 247 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: moving on. So I get, you know, hey, the desire 248 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: to stick around to continue to win. But at the 249 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: same time, Dodgers pitchers start getting healthy and coming back. 250 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: These are guys getting paid a lot of money that 251 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: are part of the future. Like, I wonder how much 252 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: of the my point and this is how much of 253 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: the three thousand strikeout was what Clayton Kershaw kept wanting 254 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: to come back for. 255 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: Right. 256 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: I guess see team things obviously want to come back 257 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: and win, but you have to understand that you're not 258 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna be that number one starter up right, there's other 259 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: guys out there that they're paying more money that they signed. 260 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: You were supposed to be a depth guy this year. 261 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: Is hey, whatever we get from you, you don't pitch the 262 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: middle of the season, it's fine, But I wonder, like, 263 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: how like is this is this where Kershaw says, I 264 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: won a couple of World Series. I've done it. I 265 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: got to three thousand strikeouts. This season's gonna be it 266 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: for me. I've gotten to the b I've won, I've 267 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: gone to a big team guy, I can see that 268 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: as time goes on, I'm just gonna be, you know, 269 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: pushed a little bit more to the background, a little 270 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: bit more to the background. And again, you don't know 271 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: how injuries are gonna go when Dodger starting pitchers always 272 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: get hurt. But I wonder if this okay I want 273 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: It's not just the main thing for him to come 274 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: on for. But okay, here we are again not you know, 275 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: depending how the season ends for the Dodge could win 276 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: another World Series. They might not. It might be Okay, 277 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: I got here, I stayed through three thousand strikeouts, even 278 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: this game, maybe telling me about my baseball mortality, because yes, 279 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: in the game, I got three thousand strikeouts. The White 280 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Sox knocked me around the park from the top of 281 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: the first inning. They were on me hard. They were 282 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: hitting the ball hard. Even outs were hard, hit line dry, 283 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: one hundred mile an hour outs. I wonder if this 284 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: is the season where now we say, Okay, I got there, 285 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: I did it. I get through one more playoff year 286 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: and now I'm done. 287 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious. Right, eight starts before tonight, four to 288 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: zero record and ERA just above a three. Like we 289 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: talked about the strikeouts don't come in big waves like 290 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: they used to. Twenty nine in the thirty eight innings 291 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: before tonight, and he got to three. So we get 292 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: to the milestone. But the one thing I think that's 293 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: really going to stand out for him is that you 294 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: still have all those questions of playoffs gone by, and 295 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: he didn't get to participate in the fun yet last year. Right, 296 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: so they win the World Series. There's a guy, what 297 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: you're eighteen lighter here, and it's only the third or 298 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: fourth time this has been done in baseball history where 299 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: you collected all three thousand strikeouts with the same team. 300 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: I think it's Bob Gibson and then somewhat a century ago. 301 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: I think those are the only two instances in all 302 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: the giant notes that were floating around about the historic 303 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: nature of this that it's Walter Johnson. So there you go. 304 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 4: So if he's still able to deal at all, whether 305 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: he has to take a fifth starter, roll six starter, 306 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 4: roll show up as a long reliever, this guy wants 307 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: to be along for the playoff ride, that's it, and 308 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: then all bets are off. Right, if he's still feeling good, 309 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: I can't imagine he just taps out. But certainly with 310 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: a world series win. Yeah, you can have your l 311 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: way moment. Your body's battered, bruised, I take my title 312 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: and I walk off. But you know that's the old 313 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: story of all right, Well, how you feel in October 314 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 4: ain't the same way you feel in February when it's 315 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: time to report. Right, uh so, curiosity, but certainly one 316 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: hell of a ride. And I'm glad he didn't give 317 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: up on himself that Dave Roberts, his wife whoever else 318 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: was in his ear chirping at him the last couple 319 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: of years, because there are plenty of times where it 320 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: looked like we might have seen the last of them. 321 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: So for us to get that three thousand strikeout when 322 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: we saw it on the replay, I can't. 323 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Believe that is about as good as it gets. Fresher 324 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: swelling Harmon. I mean, I'm gonna be mad on myself 325 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. 326 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got a story, Donty, And we showed 327 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: concern for Max Buntency. 328 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is true. We did. 329 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: We did. We were journalists in that moment with a 330 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: lowercase jay who'll. 331 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Keep following Clayton Kershaw's night but coming up next Rick 332 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Buker stops by all the latest on NBA free agency. 333 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: What moves is he like the most? Is Mike Brown 334 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: going to get the Knicks to the NBA five and more? Nope, 335 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: keep it here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. 336 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 337 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 338 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 339 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best 340 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, and speaking of miss murder, Yes, 341 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Mike and I missed Clayton Kershaw strikeout number three thousand 342 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: because we were watching a replay of the Maxim Monthsy injury. 343 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: I already called for Nolan Aronatto for. 344 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: The last week. I said, hey, watch this, you may 345 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: never see again. You may never see that in your lifetime, 346 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: in any of our lifetimes. And instead, because Moncey just 347 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: got hurt, we were watching it and I looked up, 348 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: Hey did he just get it? 349 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: Come on, man, come on. Yeah. 350 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: So history for Clayton Kershaw will have more on that 351 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: coming up in a few minutes. Dodgers trail the White 352 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: Sox now four to two in the eighth inning. But 353 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: let today also be known as the day the Knicks 354 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: found their head coach. And we continued on with crazy 355 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: stuff and free agency. Joining us now, I'm the hotline 356 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: to break it all down. Fox Sports one NBA Insider extraordinaire. 357 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Check out the Amabile Podcast, which is now remade and 358 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: re recorded. He's got a new version out there. It's 359 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: two hours and forty seven minutes of Mike Brown's offensive 360 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: end defensive philosophy. Rick Buker joins us. Now, Rick, I'm 361 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: about an hour and forty five minutes in. It's a 362 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: great podcast so far. 363 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: Thanks you very much. And if you're an hour and 364 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: forty five minutes in, you what'd you say? Two hours 365 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: forty seven minutes? Yes, our forty five minutes and you 366 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: have another hour of defensive talk and then there will 367 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: be two minutes of offense at the end. 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, Well played. 369 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I had a fun line, but I wasn't gonna top that. 370 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Can't hot that very nuts? Two minutes of offense at 371 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the end. 372 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: Uh? 373 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: Now, look, can we. 374 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: Talk about can we talk about the moon Man? We 375 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: got to talk about the moon Man. 376 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean, Rick, that's a walk off moment, man, that's like, 377 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: that's like Michael Jordan hitting his shot against the Jazz 378 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: and and and going doesn't get any better. Balker, all right, 379 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: so so so so let's let's get Mike Brown here. 380 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Look when the Knicks fired TIBs on June third, I said, 381 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: Mike Brown's the guy. He checks all the boxes, anti TIBs, 382 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: defensive philosophy, try to get the most out of Brunson 383 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: and Karl Anthony Towns. We're gonna, unfortunately, be sharing the 384 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: court a lot defensively. I don't know who else anybody 385 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: wanted the Knicks to get. I mean, it's not it's 386 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: not like they were able to talk to Jason Kidd 387 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: or any of these other coaches. Man, Mike Brown, I 388 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: thought was a choice in the beginning. Where are you 389 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: on it? 390 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: Well, they I know that they wanted a shot at 391 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: Jason Kidd. If I was going to give you their 392 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: their their priority list, their preferential list, Jason would would 393 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: have been at the top of it. Mike Brown's name 394 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: did come up very early on, and uh, and I 395 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: would and I believe largely because as you said, he 396 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 3: was the anti Tips and the feeling was that, you know, 397 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: in looking at everything that happened in Sacramento. His being 398 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: letting let go was a mistake by the Kings as 399 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: far as his ability to get along with one dearon 400 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: Fox and to get the most out of him, and 401 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: so anything that the Knicks are going to do UH, 402 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: it starts starting ends with the relationship between the coach 403 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: and UH and Jalen Brunson. So I think that they 404 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: thought that that was a reason to have him. But 405 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: Kidd also has quite a track record in terms of 406 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: working with point guards, having been a point guard himself. 407 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: So my big gets concerned with Mike is his ability 408 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: to handle New York, the pressures of New York, the 409 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: cynicism of New York. The last time he was in 410 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: a big market was in LA that was very short lived, 411 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: and LA then the pressure. While there's certainly a microscope 412 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: on the Lakers and everything that happens with them, it 413 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: doesn't compare to the media and everything else that goes 414 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: on in New York. So that's my that's my greatest 415 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: concern if I'm looking at the potential candidates out there, Yeah, 416 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: he's as good as they could do with guys that 417 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: didn't didn't already have a job. This all would play 418 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: a lot different if we hadn't heard all the reports 419 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: of them trying to interview guys, incumbent guys who already 420 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: had jobs, and then you come back to, oh, well, 421 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: I guess we can't get any of those, or we 422 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: can't any interview any of them, so let's get Mike Brown. 423 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: Its just it feels like a Constellation prize and I 424 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: don't know that it needed to if they had just 425 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: approached it a different way. 426 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: Jason, how do you feel now, I did any of 427 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: your fears? 428 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: I feel like this Rick, I said, the Knicks went 429 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: from they're a big destination to that ridiculous. Hey, now 430 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: we look like nobody wants the job. Because if all 431 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: any of those coaches had to say was I want 432 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: to talk to the Knicks and they're not going back 433 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: to that team, and the Knicks are going to hire 434 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: that guy, but none of them said yes, so they 435 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: wind up looking bad and now, hey, now we got 436 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: to go to the next group of guys. But I 437 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: think enough time went by. They talked to the right people. 438 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: They hired the guy who was high on their list 439 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: for a while. Who can come in here, and look, 440 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: you can only hire who's available. Like, I mean, I 441 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: don't know who else. I mean again, if you don't 442 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: like it, I understand, But I mean, you know, Mike 443 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Krzyzewsky's not walking through that door. You know, I mean 444 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson two thousand and five is not walking through 445 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: that door. I don't know who else. Anybody wanted. 446 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 3: Take perfect sense, but that's not how they approached it. 447 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: Like this is why I was a very consultant. 448 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 6: Unbelievably reasonable of you. But that is they were like, 449 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 6: who's got a job? Oh, can we hire them? Like 450 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 6: it was it was back backwards. I've seen I've seen 451 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 6: job approaches. I've seen hiring processes on LinkedIn that were 452 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 6: better than what the nick. 453 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: That's what hey, it says people you might know, Wow, 454 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder, let's go. 455 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: I had Edinar and Arrow on mine today. 456 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was it was like they didn't 457 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: have it was like they didn't have an updated list 458 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: of coaches in the league. They just had names. 459 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 6: Hey, Quinn's a good coach, let's go see if he's available. 460 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 4: I just not gold have been fun to try to 461 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: force some trades. 462 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: Are you working for somebody? Okay? Well who else? Who else? 463 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: Can we can we go and try to get who 464 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: who Chris Finch. Well, let's see what is he? He's 465 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: a good coach? Oh what he he's got a job too. 466 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: Like it was just I don't know what. 467 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Leon Rose, you know what I just saw? Apparently 468 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: this guy named woulden't won like fifty national championships with UCLA. 469 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: Let's call him? 470 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: Hey, have you guys Phil Jackson? But maybe we should 471 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: seeing is he like somebody have his address in Montana? 472 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: I mean it was like they didn't have Google or 473 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: something like. 474 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: Now, if they'd send someone out on a mission to 475 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: find Phil Jackson, that would have been something. I would 476 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: have looked for him locally at Uncle Bill's pancake house, 477 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: and if he wasn't there, then we would have had 478 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: to expand the search. Rick Buker, our guest that fast 479 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: one Beyond the Ball podcast Where Are You Here? He's 480 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: with us each and every week on the program, giving 481 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: his NBA brilliance and maybe taking a swipe at Smith 482 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 4: now and again. So in that vein, let's continue, Let's 483 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: go to the to Milwaukee. 484 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 7: Damian Lillar, you go ahead, Rick, before you proceed, with 485 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 7: which tea you enjoy more? 486 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: Oh, it's It's tough because I like watching his eyes 487 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 4: get really wide because you could see, wow, that's he's 488 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 4: jealous of the one liner at times, like I could 489 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: see it. He goes, oh, I didn't think he'd make 490 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: that connection, Like, ah, there it is. So he got 491 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: me and he cut me to the quick. 492 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: In the last two minutes on defense. I don't remember 493 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: that one. No, that is that we got to cut 494 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: and prove that one. I'm like the Kobe of remembering 495 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: one liners that I'm like, Okay, I should have had that. 496 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: I should have said that, I'm the Kobe remembering that. 497 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were Karl Anthony Towns. You played no defense 498 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 4: on that, so well, I had to do it. So 499 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: Milwaukee one hundred and twelve million from Damian Lillard now 500 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: gets to go pick where he wants to go, good, bad, 501 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: ugly with Giannis. Does he still want to be a 502 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 4: Milwaukee Buck after Miles Turner shows up. 503 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: No, as wild as it wild as it was, it 504 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: makes it makes a lot of sense. And I think 505 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: if they you know, it's just a matter of explaining 506 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: it to be honest, because. 507 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 7: They couldn't have really improved this team unless they moved 508 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 7: Damien or by waiving him and then extending the payout. 509 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: He's going to get all his money, but he's going 510 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: to get it out. He's going to get it over 511 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: five years. So it's going to hamstering them a little 512 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: bit over the course of the next five years in 513 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: terms of it's going to be on their on their 514 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: salary cap long after he's playing. But it did give 515 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: them flexibility to go sign a Miles Turner and to 516 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: do some things because now he counts less against the cap, 517 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: far less against the cap this particular season. So if 518 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: they go to be honest and say, hey, look, we're 519 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: allowed Damian's not going to play for us right He's 520 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: not going to play for us again, and we're going 521 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: to give him an opportunity to go rehab wherever he wants. 522 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 3: We're going to give him the opportunity to choose where 523 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: he plays next. And meanwhile, we're going to put a team. 524 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: We're going to have a chance to build a more 525 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 3: competitive team around you. Right now, from everything that I know, 526 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: that message has been delivered and it has been received, 527 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: and Gianni's is good with it. He understands why they're 528 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: doing what they're doing, and there's some good will here 529 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: that's earned by a team when they do a player 530 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: a solid as they're doing with Damian Lillard. I mean 531 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: there really a lot of people looked at it and 532 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: waving him, you know how outrageous or whatever they're Actually 533 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: they're doing him a big favor. And when you do 534 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: that for a for a player, a superstar or any player, 535 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: that resonates. And so it's not only say from everything 536 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: I know created goodwill with Giannis, it also sends a 537 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: message to the rest of the league that the Milwaukee 538 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Bucks handled difficult situations in the right way. 539 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: Rick Buker our guest Jason Smith Mike Carmon live from 540 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Okay, so Jannis is okay 541 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: with where things sit right now, which means Doc Rivers 542 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: is breathing a CIYGHB relief. Now, the other big move today, 543 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: the other big news today, the Lakers go out and 544 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: get DeAndre eight. And we thought this was happening when 545 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: we knew he was going to be let go. Now 546 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: the guys had issues, but clearly twenty six years old, 547 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: he's someone that could help the Lakers. However, I kind 548 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: of feel at this point, Rick, right now, where we 549 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: are with how the Lakers, the moves they are making 550 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: and not making a we don't have a lot of money. 551 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: We gotta get a lottery ticket. DeAndre Ayton. I feel 552 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: like the Lakers are daring Lebron James to ask for 553 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: a trade. I feel like they're daring him to say, yo, okay, 554 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: this is not dovetailing. I want out, and then they'll 555 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: they'll try to accommodate him. They can't go the other 556 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: way because obviously with no trade and it looks bad. 557 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: But I feel like they're daring him right now to 558 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: ask for a trade so they could do it. 559 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: I am pretty confident in believing that if Lebron asked 560 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 3: for a trade or they could find it for whatever reason, 561 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: they could find a way to get his fifty two 562 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: million off of their books, they would happily do that. 563 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: At this point. It's just it's where it is, and 564 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: I would not So they lost Dorian Finney Smith, they 565 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: signed DeAndre eight, and I would not. For where they 566 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: are and what they're trying to build. I wouldn't give 567 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: up Dorian Finney Smith for DeAndrea eight, not now and 568 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: maybe not ever. In terms of what they're capable of doing. 569 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: I think DeAndre eight and is going to give them 570 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: numbers being a former number one pick look good, but 571 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: they he does not give you the effort that you 572 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: need on the defensive end. And I learned my lessons 573 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 3: from mister Yusuf Nurkic, who I thought, you know what, 574 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: when he goes to Phoenix, he's going to realize, this 575 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: is what I need to do in order for us 576 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: to win. And it's not about offense, it's about defense. 577 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 3: And I was proved wrong. And so I don't expect 578 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: some transformation from DeAndre Ayton as a Laker, even though 579 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: that's exactly what they need. They need him to be 580 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: the closest version to Anthony Davis that he can possibly provide, 581 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: and I have no expectation that he's going to give 582 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: that to him, And I would Lebron James Is if 583 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: he remains a Laker and he's playing with DeAndre Ayton, 584 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: I assure you that whatever remaining hair he has left, 585 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 3: he is going to be pulled it out a company. 586 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 4: He's gonna be stuck in traffic and not making a 587 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: game or something. All right, Rick, last one for you 588 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: real quick taking taking a couple of those early trades 589 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: away waiting on what was next. 590 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: I know what it is. You know, rather than bringing 591 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: a glass of wine to the to the bench, he's 592 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: gonna be bringing the whole bottle. 593 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: He's got a magnum the sideline. I like that, and 594 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: a big straw like he's a super super big gulp. 595 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: Last one for you. What's your your favorite move thus far? 596 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 4: What moved the needle for you? 597 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: Man? I love what the Denver Nuggets have done in 598 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: terms of trading Michael Porter Junior and getting Cam Johnson, 599 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: bringing back Bruce Brown. I don't know what he's got 600 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: left as far as a player is concerned, but they 601 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: got him on a minimum and uh and and he 602 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: was a great locker room presence. Am Johnson is going 603 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: to play two ways. Uh. He's going to give you 604 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: defense and offense. I don't know that he's the pure 605 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: shooter that that Michael Porter Junior is, but the the vibe, 606 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: the body language, everything about PJ was such a negative. 607 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: Getting a guy as hungry as I think Cam Johnson 608 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: is and adding him to a team. I mean, honestly, 609 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: this is what happens when you're when you're head coach 610 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: and your GM are on the same page. As opposed 611 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: to what was happening with Mike Malone and Calvin Booth 612 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: for the Nuggets. And I can't help but looking at 613 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: how quickly they made these moves, how close they came 614 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: under David Adelman, to actually getting to the to the 615 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: finals and possibly winning a ring, that that they that 616 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: they that they didn't blow one already, that they that 617 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: they should have a couple of rings rather than just one. 618 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: But with these moves, Okay, see, I like the move 619 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: that Houston has made Denver. Those those three teams have 620 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: moved to the top of the Western Conference and and 621 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: I put them on an even plane. 622 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Right now, he's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is 623 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: at Rick Buker f S one on the Ball podcast 624 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: looking for acomp for Cooper Flag. What Nicks cuts do 625 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: you use? 626 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 5: Rick? 627 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Which one? Is it a combo of like Starks and 628 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Ewing and Bernard King? 629 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 3: Like? 630 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: Is that where you're going? 631 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: That's where I started, That's not where I ended up? 632 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, very good, very good. 633 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: I kind of like, okay, I'll wait at this offense. 634 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: It will be the last two minutes of the podcast. 635 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: I'll wait for that. All right, Well done, be great, 636 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 4: buddy before Rick, We'll talk to you. 637 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: Unbelievable visit from the best on Lebron, on the Nuggets, 638 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: amazing stuff. 639 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: We'll make it fun of the knicks that happened. Mike 640 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: john Mike Mike, Mike Brown. You canna say, Mike Breen bang, 641 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: I'm not retiring. Yeah, I jumped ahead. Don't jump to Shark. 642 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: Time out to find out what's trending in the wide 643 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: world of sports. From Martin Wise m w F for US. 644 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 8: Clinton Kershaw Dodgers starting pitcher, the twentieth pitcher today, twentieth 645 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 8: pitcher with three thousand strikeouts. He got his three thousands 646 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 8: today to end the sixth inning in what is now 647 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 8: a four to two game in the top of the 648 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 8: ninth at Chicago White Sox in the lead over the Dodgers, 649 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 8: who Kershaw joins Walter Johnson and Bob Gibson as the 650 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 8: three pitchers to do it exclusively with one club. I 651 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 8: swearing Major League Baseball the Dodgers now, I mean sorry 652 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 8: that Blue Jays now tied for first in the Al 653 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 8: East after beating the Yankees eleven and nine. 654 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: Toronto's won three straight. 655 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 8: Aaron Judge hit home run number thirty one and the loss, 656 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 8: jose L. Twovey moved in a second place on the 657 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 8: all time Astros hit list. Houston beat Colorado five to three. 658 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 8: The Mets snap Day four game losings for splitting a 659 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 8: doubleheader against the Brewers. The Padres and Phillies also split 660 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 8: a doubleheader, so Philly has a two game lead in 661 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 8: the NL East to the US men's national team Gold 662 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 8: advances in the Gold Cup after a two to one 663 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 8: win over Guatemala Diego Luna with both goals one baseball game. 664 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 8: Still are two baseball games still going right now? I 665 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 8: told you the sohit Sox and Dodgers the Giants and 666 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 8: Arizona Diamondbacks in extra inning. San Francisco leads six to 667 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 8: five in the tenth. In the NBA, the Knicks have 668 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 8: hired Mike Brown to be their new head coach. 669 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: Laker is expected to sign DeAndre eight into a two 670 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 5: year deal. 671 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 8: The Memphis Grizzly say they will evaluate Jaron Jackson Junior's 672 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 8: toe in about twelve weeks, and a report from the 673 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 8: Athletic says that this Kevin Durant trade from the Suns 674 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 8: to the Houston Rockets may be expanded to include up 675 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 8: to seventeams. 676 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 5: You know, it's how they do it in the NBA. 677 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 8: The deal has been agreed upon a principle, but until 678 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 8: it's all signed on the dotted line, it's not officially done. 679 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 5: So no major changes in terms of like. 680 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 8: Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks still going to Phoenix, Kevin 681 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 8: Durant still going to Houston. But I imagine not reporting this. 682 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 8: That's Phoenix trying to figure out how can I get 683 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 8: some draft picks back back to you guys. 684 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Maybe some more teams. May you get to ten teams. 685 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's keep going then let's get a third of the 686 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: league in you guys want a piece of this. 687 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: Thanks, come on in. 688 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Clayton Kershaw, three thousand strikeouts. We'll have 689 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: more on that, but believe it or not, there's somebody 690 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: who actually had a better day than Kershaw. No, that's next. 691 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. You're on it. You're 692 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: on a big run tonight, Tyshirt. 693 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 694 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 695 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. 696 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon. 697 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 4: Fire fire of the Mantain. 698 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: We'll have more on the historic night for Clayton Kershaw 699 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: coming up in about ten minutes. Strikeout number three thousand. Well, 700 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: believe it or not, there's a guy that had a 701 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: better day than Clayton Kershaw. 702 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: Hugh Aaron Rodgers. 703 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: Uh, Diego Luna, not that Diego Luna gets the Old 704 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: States men's national team into the Gold Cup Final with 705 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: the brace in the first fifteen minutes to night's game 706 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: against guatam Oh sorry, two goals by a player and 707 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: they hold on to win a game that was a 708 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: little dicey. It wasn't like they dominated the entire game. 709 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: But now here's the United States. All the drama of 710 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: Polisic and Robinson and all the players who were sitting 711 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: out and didn't want to come play, and all the 712 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: Canada coach going on. All my guys wanted to be here. 713 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about anybody else all that. As bad 714 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: as things looked for the United States, I tell you 715 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: right now, Sometimes it takes a while for things to change. 716 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes things change very quickly. The last two weeks have 717 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: been so huge for the US men's team in soccer. 718 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: I feel more optimistic about them than I have any 719 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: time in the last five years. Because what's happened is 720 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: Mauricio Pochettino has said, this is my team. I am 721 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: the identity, I make the decisions. Right what he's when 722 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: Polisic said he wanted to play a little bit, but 723 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: not play the whole thing, and Pochino says, I'm not 724 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: a mannequin, right, Like, what a great line that I 725 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: am not a mannequin. Uh. And he picked his guys 726 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of B team players of MLS guys. 727 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: Look Diego lunas up and coming star. And look at 728 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: where the United States is at right now. They're back 729 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: in the Gold Cup final. They playing Mexico on Sunday 730 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: because Mexico just beat Honduras one nothing. And what has 731 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: Pochattino done. He's unearthed a couple of stars over the 732 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: course of the past couple of weeks. Now and and 733 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: Luna who is young, and Tilman now we can't get 734 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: enough of and Freeze at keeper as well as he 735 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: played in the shootout. This has been the best time 736 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: because now these stars that have been really entitled for 737 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: the last few years, like like Polistic and those guys, 738 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: they've all been way too entire. They haven't accomplished anything, 739 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: but yet they're because they've been told they're they're they're 740 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: great generation in soccer. They haven't accomplished it that we 741 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: missed the World Cup, like they haven't done anything, and 742 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: there's been no buy in for the US men's national team. 743 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: But now Pochettino says, these are my guys, and if 744 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: you missed this tournament, you're saying, oh, man, I better 745 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: buy in or he's gonna leave me home. Because the 746 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: United States has gotten their identity. They are now tough again, resilient. 747 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: You can see how they back each other up, much 748 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: different than the normal US effort, which we get is hey, 749 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: they look great the first twelve minutes of the game, 750 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: and then the last seventy eight minutes. It's what the 751 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: hell is going on? So Poachatino has been able to 752 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: flip this in a span of two weeks. The team 753 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: has an identity. It is tough. He's unearthed stars, so 754 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: now you better buy in. Like the United States soccer 755 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: is in the best spot it's been in five years, 756 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,479 Speaker 1: and it's all because of how they've navigated the Gold 757 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: Cup the last two weeks. 758 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, not to say that today's game didn't have its 759 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 4: share of wartz right outshot pressured once we got past 760 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 4: the thirty thirty five minute mark. To your point, a 761 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 4: little bit of not necessarily parking the bus, but you 762 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 4: saw the aggressiveness come on them. They did have well 763 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 4: dual off sides, but either way a goal was disallowed 764 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 4: that kept the uh things at bay and ultimately you 765 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 4: write it out, but your your overall point, I think 766 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 4: is appropriate to talk about where we've been at. So thirsty. 767 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 4: I think that's the appropriate term to say here. Thirsty 768 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 4: for a winning team that any hint of it, or 769 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 4: any player that looked like they were going to emerge 770 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: to be a star. We crowned him. Yeah, Josie Aldador, 771 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: he was gonna be you know, he was gonna be 772 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: Bo Jackson running through people. 773 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: We missed one world. You got hurt in the first 774 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: ten minutes of the first game, and he pulled his hamstring, 775 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: and he missed all the. 776 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 4: Time he kept pulling his hamstring. You got the rain 777 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: of situation which played out like something you'd see on 778 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 4: a Lifetime Movie of the Week or or your local 779 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 4: ayso of parents battling with coaches and all of those 780 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 4: things and then star treatment of well, I can do 781 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 4: what I want. And we've seen that at every level. 782 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 4: You've all experienced it, whether it's on an athletic field 783 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: or in your place of emplay. The rules of engagement 784 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 4: are different for star performers. So now you've got a 785 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 4: coach who comes in doesn't have the same baggage as 786 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: many coaches before him in terms of his relationships with 787 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 4: the hierarchy, because that's been one of the big things, right, 788 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 4: It's usually just been a battle of how much control 789 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: do I really have as opposed to the governing body, 790 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: et cetera. This guy doesn't seem to care. No, it's 791 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 4: in it, it's his way, and you're either in or 792 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 4: you're out. 793 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: But you got it. But you have to see the 794 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: results on the pitch, and you're seeing it now Like 795 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: the old Cup it would be I don't need to 796 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: buy it, no, but that's it. But now you've seen it, so. 797 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, now you get a little bit more of a 798 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 4: leash to say, Okay, these are the guys I'm running with, 799 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: and for everybody else, you either get on board or 800 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: you get left behind. 801 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: Exit out bout a fresca exit swollen dome Coming up 802 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: next Clayton Kershaw's three thousand strikeout tonight, Could it end 803 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: with a win and a show? Heyo Tani Grant slam Boy. 804 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: That's coming up next. Right here, Jason and Mike, you 805 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: are listening to Fox Sports Radio.