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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure, here's a deal. He's a true icon in

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to grace

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Speaker 1: this planet. There's got a man with a voice that

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Speaker 1: sounds like Erry White and be got to say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's do it, baby, God himself would pay thirty nine

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Speaker 1: you are about to embark on a transcendent experience that

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Speaker 1: can only be described as psychological nudity.

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Speaker 2: This is st gox and this is stupidity. Here we go,

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Speaker 2: jump toting.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about the pope. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: Dennis Schroeder was still the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Oh really? Yeah? Have we started?

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, this is just gonna say. That's a good

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Speaker 4: place to start right there. That's my favorite part about

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Speaker 4: playoff basketball is that late edition of guy.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Not only is he still in the league, but he's

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Speaker 4: actually like an important part of somebody's operation. Like Kawhi

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Speaker 4: Leonard Man. We'll throw back. Kawhi gets you right in

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Speaker 4: the plums. What do we do with Kawhi Leonard. Go

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Speaker 4: Joe seriously, like, if he wins and listen to the Clippers

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Speaker 4: have a chance here.

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Speaker 3: But if for some reason they got to the NBA

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Speaker 3: presumably be a three time Finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what to do with the guy.

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Speaker 2: It would be incredible.

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Speaker 4: He still qualifies to me as the all time what

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Speaker 4: could have been because even having a career that's a

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame worthy career, if you didn't factor in

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Speaker 4: this weird injury that we never quite were able.

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Speaker 2: To wrap our arms around.

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Speaker 4: To your point about the trophy count, he could have

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Speaker 4: been in some very interesting range and we'll just ever

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Speaker 2: So I think he's.

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Speaker 4: Firmly in the what could have been category, even if

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Speaker 4: what is is still great.

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Speaker 3: When you think Nick Killers at Madison Square Garden, you

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Speaker 3: of course think Reggie Miller, Trey Young, and Dennis Shrewder.

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Speaker 2: Pistons.

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Speaker 4: Baby, how about it, the Pistons should be up to

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Speaker 4: zero in that series. I'm nervous as a Nick fan,

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Speaker 4: I am nervous they make the trade for Karl Anthony Towns,

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Speaker 4: And I'm nervous because I don't think Knicks are gonna

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Speaker 5: See you you're you're You're nervous that they're gonna get

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Speaker 5: eliminated in this round instead of the next round.

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that? What is that their ceiling right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous for my friend Tom Thibodeau, who I have

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Speaker 3: As long as I have access to him. They could

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Speaker 3: stay forever if I have access to them, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's uh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like everyone kind of knew this was gonna

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Speaker 4: be the ceiling for this era of Knicks basketball. Given

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Speaker 4: the roster and give the coach. But then we got

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Speaker 4: our first taste of the Knicks back in the postseason

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Speaker 4: whenever it was a few years ago, and everybody liked

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Speaker 2: Like I was just getting ready to talk about.

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Speaker 4: How fun it is to have a good, competitive Pistons

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Speaker 4: same way, and that really pleases me. But the Knicks

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Speaker 4: mania when they were first getting back into the postseason

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Speaker 4: and Jalen Brunson's popping off, and it all feels good.

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Speaker 4: I can see why everyone always talks about the Knicks

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Speaker 4: the way they do. That was fun, and it's sad

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Speaker 4: that now we're realizing there's a very clear cap to this.

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Speaker 2: There's a very clear cap.

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Speaker 3: And I am nervous, Mikey, I'm nervous about them not

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Speaker 3: and listen, Gullick is right, it is nice to have

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Speaker 2: You are you are right, goun Joe.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who was yearning for the Pistons to

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Speaker 3: the Pistons to be back until you said it's good

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Speaker 3: to have the Pistons back. How about that stud Goots.

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Speaker 4: I watched like one March basketball game of the Pistons,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Duran Jacked love.

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Speaker 4: A basketball player that's built like a football player, and

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Speaker 3: I watched the game in March as well, and I

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Speaker 2: Was he on the t back in March?

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Speaker 4: Wasn't Dennis Schroeder the one that was the guy in

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Speaker 4: the middle of that lightning Rod conversation about US basketball

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Speaker 4: versus European basketball? Wasn't he the one that talked about

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Speaker 4: the American players? I believe so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But now we can say whatever he wants.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a Nick killer.

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Speaker 4: Is what is there a better killer in sports than

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Speaker 4: a Nick killer, given the stage, given the environ meant, like,

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Speaker 4: what other killers do we even have?

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Speaker 6: That is a uh, that's a great question. I don't

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Speaker 3: But I think despite whatever answers we give here, I

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Speaker 3: think Nick Killer at Madison Square Garden is the one

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Speaker 2: That's the killer that you want to be. In baseball,

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Speaker 2: there's there's Yankee killers.

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Speaker 5: Like, uh so there was Trot Nixon who had seventeen

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Speaker 6: Like you hate that guy, don't you?

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Speaker 2: Of course I do. His name is a verb.

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Speaker 3: But how do you feel how do you feel about

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Speaker 3: Jeter being the executive producer on a on a documentary

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Speaker 2: What a trader that guy is?

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Speaker 4: The Stutts is strong and Derek Jeter is what that

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Speaker 4: sounds like? Oh, no doubt, mikey A is a Yankee fan.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, come on, man, come on, like, don't

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Speaker 5: don't ruin this for us?

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Speaker 2: Like I said, my kid is getting into baseball.

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Speaker 5: And I'm trying to tell him all the glory days

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Speaker 2: Well he's doing it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it is crazy. And I don't

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Speaker 4: as we're getting into this range where athletes are increasingly

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Speaker 4: want Wesson Klin to get into coaching or anything like that,

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Speaker 4: and they want to own teams. They want to do

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Speaker 4: these projects. Like it's bizarre to me to see Tom Brady,

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Speaker 4: is how Tom Brady and the Tuck Rule ruined his life.

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Speaker 4: And now that guy is helping man the ship in

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Speaker 4: it feels like we're in line for more of that,

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Speaker 4: more of the Jeter stuff now because of the range

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'm all for Jeter making documentaries about the Rogers.

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Speaker 2: I really am.

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Speaker 3: It's listen, it's the boldest thing.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it's the first time Jeter stepped out and done

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Speaker 4: a little bit of the bad boy routine and he

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Speaker 4: kind of likes them.

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Speaker 3: How it feels he does like it. I think you're right, Gojum.

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Speaker 3: We have Todd McShay coming on the NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: Is this week.

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Speaker 3: We were discussing on the Levatard Show earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: NBA cams okay.

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Speaker 3: Like alternate, you know, viewing experiences, and you just have

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Speaker 3: watching how the NBA playoffs go down. So we had

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Speaker 2: Outraged at Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 3: We had Riley watching the Golden State Warriors, a Riley cam.

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Speaker 3: We have a Nico Harrison cam of him just of

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Speaker 3: him watching the Lakers and rooting against Luca. Of those

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Speaker 3: cams of the NBA cams, and there's a reason I'm

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Speaker 3: asking you about this as it relates to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 6: Which one of those NBA cams would you most enjoy?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I want to watch Nico just watch every Luka Doncic

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Speaker 4: important he was. Bat Man is cracking under all this

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Speaker 4: pressure right now. He looks and sounds shook, and so

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Speaker 4: to watch more of that because he wears it. And

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Speaker 4: wear it. I feel like Nico's the guy. So the

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Speaker 4: Nico cam is the cam that I chose.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was my contribution when we were having that discussion

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Speaker 3: the Nico camp, if there was an NFL coaches camp

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Speaker 3: or just an NFL camp for the NFL draft topic.

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Speaker 3: Shay will join us here in just a second to

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Speaker 3: talk about the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Who would you want to cam up?

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Speaker 3: Would it beat Bill Belichick just watching and laughing at

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Speaker 3: all his selections of the NFL teams? Would it beat

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Speaker 3: Dion Sanders? Who would be a good NFL cam for

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Speaker 3: the draft? I would watch Dion Sanders over the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: I want to watch Bill, but only if it's with Jordan.

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Speaker 4: I only want it if it's him and his girlfriend

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Speaker 4: watching the draft together.

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Speaker 2: And I don't need him miked up.

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Speaker 4: I want her miked up because at this point, she

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Speaker 4: is the markedly more interesting character in the play.

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Speaker 2: That's a good man, that's good.

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Speaker 3: But watching Dion as his son drops and drops and drops,

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Speaker 3: I imagine d On like code calling teams.

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Speaker 2: I just imagine.

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Speaker 4: I just imagine him like and the excitement for Travis

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Speaker 4: being at equal levels because it feels like Travis is

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Speaker 4: a member of the family now, like it's basically Travis

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Speaker 4: Hunter Sanders at this point.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're right, Top Bicshay is going to join us

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Speaker 3: the McShay show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Man? How are you good?

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Speaker 7: How are you there? Are go?

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Speaker 2: Good? Man?

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Speaker 3: It's the busiest week of the year for Top Bigshay.

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Speaker 3: The McShay show was kicking ass. He is with the

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Speaker 3: Are you looking for How many interviews have you done

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's been a week, man, it's been a week.

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Speaker 7: It's good though. It's good to be back in the horse.

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Speaker 7: Picked the year off last year. Uh didn't feel right

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Speaker 7: good to join you. What's going on man?

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Speaker 2: Are you headed to Green Bay?

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Speaker 7: Hell? No, I was in Philly. I sat in the

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Speaker 7: not I'm not doing that again. I'm out in La.

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Speaker 7: I'm out in La enjoying it. We get studios out

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh something against Green Bay? I mean you

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, I love I love Green Bay. I

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Speaker 7: It's two hundred and fifty thousand people converging on a

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Speaker 4: Todd, I saw the reaction there and I feel like

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Speaker 4: we all go through this a bit where you got

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Speaker 4: most afraid of pissing off when this stuff comes up?

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Speaker 7: Oh, that's a good question. I feel Columbus. You don't

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Speaker 4: Well Todd because I was going to say the Midwest

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Speaker 2: Is that something you want to see stay the same?

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Speaker 7: It's funny when I was younger, I was like I

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Speaker 7: let's go somewhere warm. We can do this down in

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Speaker 7: It's a perfect place for it. It feels when you're there,

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Speaker 7: it feels because like if you did it in New York,

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Speaker 7: wouldn't feel like it's a big deal. There it feels big,

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Speaker 7: but it's spread out enough so I'm in favor of.

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Speaker 7: But I can honestly say there's a point in time

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Speaker 6: Are you ever going to get tired of the NFL Draft?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 7: Man, I think I'm more fired up this year for

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Speaker 7: some reason. And I know it's not like the elite

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Speaker 7: thrilled to be back. I'm thrilled to do it. I

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Speaker 7: right and this this is it, Like you know, you

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Speaker 7: can get done with the tape and printing out my

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Speaker 7: on planes landed here more phone calls, hearing each team

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Speaker 7: Who's going to go there? Text messages constantly. There's an

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Speaker 4: You know, what's your favorite part of that process? You

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Speaker 4: just described, Like, what's the part that keeps you coming

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Speaker 7: Honestly, and it sounds cliche and everyone, I'm a tape guy.

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Speaker 2: I love the tape.

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Speaker 7: But like when you can finally put your phone down,

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Speaker 7: have interviews to do, You don't have to write a

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Speaker 7: what's unbelievable, and talking to you. We had Nick Cassario,

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Speaker 7: It really is crazy to think of when we started this.

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Speaker 7: I think you'll appreciate this. It was like those old

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Speaker 2: I thought it was going to end right there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I know. But now it's like I've got

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Speaker 7: then the advancement that's gone beyond that where I can

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Speaker 7: see Matthew Golden on routes from eleven to twenty yards,

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Speaker 7: this is how I see. It doesn't matter what I hear. Yes,

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Speaker 7: if there's medical character effect, I don't care what anyone

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. It feels like cheating, Gojo. I

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Speaker 3: Listen, you have to sift through a beta or a

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Speaker 2: I feel had the twelve yard routes.

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Speaker 7: I remember one time, one time. So when we first

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Speaker 7: You'll appreciate the huge box to our offices, and it

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Speaker 4: It's I I've heard a lot of stories of my

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Speaker 4: That's where my eyes are most trained. It's what I

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Speaker 4: What's the hardest position for you to scout when you

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Speaker 7: Blocks safety because of exactly what you're saying, Like you

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Speaker 7: trickiest That has always been the trickiest position. But now

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Speaker 7: There's something every single play that you can you can

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Speaker 5: You've been doing this a while, You've got a lot

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Speaker 2: Everybody likes you.

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Speaker 5: But you're on the phone with all these guys and

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Speaker 5: some How much are you being lied to? And how

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Speaker 5: much do you know when you're being lied to? How

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Speaker 7: Even this week, So like, all right, so there's a

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Speaker 7: I I've kind of but here's the thing that I've

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Speaker 7: It's the questions they ask you. Because why is this

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering who's lied the most over the years the

441
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: topic Shay like I would try.

442
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 7: I've got a couple of bad ones. Maybe I'll write

443
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 7: a book later. I've got a couple of really bad ones. Man,

444
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 7: I do, and I just can't. I can't now. But yeah,

445
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 7: there have been a couple where I'm like, you, son

446
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 7: of a bitch. You you set me up, you know,

447
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 7: And especially when I was younger, I took debait more

448
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 7: than more than hopefully I do.

449
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 2: Now.

450
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: Well, when you feel like you can give us that information,

451
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 3: I mean, or save it for a book, it's that's fine.

452
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: I understand that.

453
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: But if you want to give it to you, I mean,

454
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: I think I think you understand that. I don't actually

455
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: Stanz it does, though you can talk to him about it.

456
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 7: Hey, let's get to a couple of things here, because

457
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 7: we got to run in a little bit. Unfortunately, there's

458
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 7: some fascinating stuff I just want to empty the bag

459
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 7: for you a little. Okay, Okay, here's here's some stuff

460
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 7: we're hearing. Okay, Yeah, I think it's it could go

461
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 7: Chalk one through four, cam Moored's going one. Travis Hunter,

462
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 7: I believe, is going to be Cleveland like everybody else. Uh,

463
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be Abdul Carter at three. And

464
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 7: I do think it's gonna be Will Campbell, even though

465
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 7: I think everyone, including probably New England, knows that it's

466
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 7: a little bit high on offensive tackles. Everyone I talked

467
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 7: just about everyone I talked to in the league is

468
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 7: like the top offensive tackle this year is like the

469
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 7: fifth best tackle from last year. Okay, but their offensive

470
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 7: tackles premium position, and they're they're gonna go higher than

471
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 7: they they're graded because when it runs out like six deep,

472
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 7: there's nobody else, So expect more tackles to go than

473
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 7: than than probably they should. That's not the interesting part.

474
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 7: The interesting part is everyone in the world, including myself,

475
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 7: had Mason Graham mocked to Jacksonville at five. Right, you

476
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 7: get this new GM James Gladstone, who came in from

477
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 7: the Rams, really integral part of the scouting process there.

478
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 7: They drafted two defensive tackles in Braden Fisk and Kobe

479
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 7: Turner with thirty two and thirty one inch arm legs, respectively.

480
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 7: And now you've got Mason Graham. The only real knock

481
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 7: on him is the shorter arms, right, So everyone kind

482
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 7: of assumed for a while, and it's a big position

483
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 7: of need. I'm now hearing because it's Liam Cohen. His

484
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 7: job is come in here and fix Trevor Lawrence, and

485
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 7: we're gonna it's going to be an offensive weapon with

486
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 7: this pick. At first, everyone was like O Ashton gent

487
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 7: and there was a lot of buzz and maybe it

488
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 7: will be dining okay, But there's a lot of smoke

489
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 7: right now about Ted McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona,

490
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 7: who I am not the biggest fan of. I recognize

491
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 7: the talent. He's six', four former volleyball, player goes, up acrobatic,

492
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 7: catches all those sorts of, things and so it got

493
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 7: me thinking Why and it didn't take long go. Back

494
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 7: what were the best two years Of Trevor lawrence's career

495
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 7: dating back to? College twenty eighteen twenty nineteen In clemson

496
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 7: was on. Fire he had two receivers and T higgins

497
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 7: And Justin, Rocks Justin ross who combined for four thousand

498
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 7: receiving yards and forty two touchdowns in those two. Years,

499
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 7: right they did a lot of. Winning and they're both

500
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 7: six foot Four TETs six foot. Four they've had guys

501
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 7: Like Calvin Ridley Christian, kirk smaller. Receivers his accuracy can

502
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 7: be good at, times but he's not like that pinpoint,

503
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 7: guy big target catch. Radious so if that, happens that

504
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 7: throws kind of a wrench in all of. This like

505
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 7: the earliest people Thought pet could go would be. Twelve

506
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 7: so then you're sitting that pick six with The jets

507
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 7: and everyone's Saying Tyler, warren, Right.

508
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: Raiders at.

509
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 7: Six, No, No i'm, Sorry, yeah The raiders at. Six

510
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 7: everyone was, Saying Nashal. Gent so If JiTT doesn't go,

511
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 7: five then of course Your jets have jumped right in

512
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 7: with the. Six we'll get to The jets. Seventh so

513
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 7: doesn't go, five then then he's sitting there at six

514
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 7: and everyone Expected. Gent i'm now hearing its offensive tackle

515
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 7: Armand membu From missouri or one of these edge. Rushers

516
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 7: But i'm the closer we, get the More i'm Hearing.

517
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 7: Membo so now you've got two offensive tackles that don't

518
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 7: belong in the top six and a wide receiver that

519
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 7: doesn't belong in the top. Six so now The jets

520
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 7: are sitting back, right And carolina and every team beyond,

521
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 7: that The saints at, nine The bears especially at, ten

522
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 7: and are, like wait a, Second so you're telling me

523
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 7: these two tight ends that everyone in the. League i've

524
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 7: talked To Tyler warren And Colston lovelin our top seven

525
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 7: to nine players are just about every board in the.

526
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 7: League they're still. Available now we're at pick. Seven we've

527
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 7: got the edge rushers put you, Know Jayalen walker's pushed

528
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 7: down a little. Bit Ashton, genty who was considered by

529
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 7: a lot of teams in the. League is what the

530
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 7: third or fourth best player in this strip still? Available

531
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 7: i'm hearing with The. Jets it may not Be Tyler.

532
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 7: Warren maybe it could Be Jalen walker edge. Rusher maybe

533
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 7: it could Be Jade barron's the Name i've. Heard i'm

534
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 7: not certain on, that but keep an eye on. That

535
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 7: and then and Also Mason graham is still. Available so

536
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 7: you get all these players that are bumped. Down so

537
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 7: then you get to you get to picked, eight they're

538
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 7: gonna take the best addresser available to, you na be

539
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 7: one of the Two georgia. Guys, okay then at nine

540
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 7: everyone's Talking Derek carr out for the year. Quarterback it's

541
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 7: it is not Shure Door. Sanders at pick, nine it's

542
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 7: not Sure Door. Sanders it pick forty for The. Saints,

543
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 7: Wow Kellen moore is think of the last three OH c,

544
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 7: jobs he, Said Dak, Prescott Justin herbert And Jalen. Hurts

545
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 7: Jackson dart would be their. Guy but it's not going to.

546
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 7: Be at, Nine they'll Go Edge. Rusher they, needed they

547
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 7: needed the Next Cam. JORDAN i think it could Be

548
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 7: Michael williams. There so now this is the fascinating part to.

549
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 7: Me if you're A bears fan and you get to

550
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 7: pick ten In ashton there And Tyler warren's there And

551
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 7: Mason graham is, there, like we could have three or

552
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 7: four of the top nine players in the draft still

553
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 7: sitting there at, ten and they can they can only

554
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 7: take one of. Them so that's gonna be the fascinating

555
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 7: part of the draft BECAUSE i think picks, five four and,

556
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 7: five and potentially six could go to players that that,

557
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 7: truly if you go like league consensus on, grades they

558
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 7: don't match up with the, fourth, fifth and sixth best

559
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 7: player in the.

560
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 6: Draft that was an amazing. Breakdown, Seriously, WOW i get.

561
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 7: IT i could take beta tapes In, indianapol that's all we.

562
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 7: Want BUT i would HAVE i wouldn't have been happy

563
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 7: with myself if we got off this this uh this

564
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 7: call AND i didn't get that to.

565
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: You, no because you know as well we could do

566
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes with you without talking about the draft

567
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: at all or anything meaningful as it.

568
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: Relates that's why that's WHY i cut you. Off you grab.

569
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: Control thank. You you're a host THAT i, mean that's

570
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: what you.

571
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: Do, Yeah i'm Learning, todd the guys that we just

572
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: talked about, There who was your favorite of that group of,

573
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 4: players whether It's jen T Warren, loveland who's the guy

574
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: that if you were in that spot and you were

575
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: in THAT gm chair For, chicago you'd be banging on

576
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: the table for.

577
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 7: That's a great. Question, Mason graham and genty would be

578
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 7: the highest. Two you're great. PLAYERS i just think About

579
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 7: Ben johnson and, Honestly i'm kind of torn Because i've

580
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 7: Gotten warren slightly ahead Of Colston, loveland but there's something

581
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 7: inside of me just like AND i don't think they're

582
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 7: going to do, this but could you Imagine Ben johnson

583
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 7: cooking up in the lab like he's got your Cole

584
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 7: kmet brought in three offensive, lineman trying to get his

585
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 7: young quarterbacks so, talented trying to get him. Right and

586
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 7: now you get twelve personnel With comet And, loveland who

587
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 7: are two very different, players and all the things he

588
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 7: could do with that and that kind of the security

589
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 7: blankets in the middle of the. Field loveland and is

590
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 7: more in That gronk mold everyone, does like The gronk Versus, kelsey,

591
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 7: right he's in the and it's essentially a why versus

592
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 7: an appt tight, end as you Know. Gojo SO i

593
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 7: Just i'd be fascinated By, Loveland but if you're sitting

594
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 7: there And genty's, There i'm also fascinated, by Like Jamier,

595
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 7: gibbs what he had In detroit and taking the pressure

596
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 7: off the. Quarterback SO i don't know that you can

597
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 7: go wrong with one of those three. PLAYERS i think

598
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 7: you would probably See genty as the. Pick but BUT i,

599
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 7: LOVE i love all those guys and to think that

600
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 7: they would all be available with Potentially Mason graham at.

601
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 7: Ten it's just it's hard to comprehend at this. Point

602
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 7: that's probably Why i'm jumping out of my.

603
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Skin we know you just have a few minutes left.

604
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: Here what's your evaluation of Cam?

605
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 7: WARD i like him a. Lot the conversation would have

606
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 7: started last. YEAR i think AT qb four that that

607
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 7: would be their, Earliest BUT i still, LIKE i can

608
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 7: still like him a. LOT qb six last year had

609
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 7: the hell of the rookie, year didn't he and to be,

610
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 7: honest outplayed WHAT i thought he. Would he would do Bon.

611
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 7: Nix SO i think he needs to be in the

612
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 7: right spot with the right. Coach and the MORE i

613
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 7: study kind Of Brian callahan and the MORE i study

614
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 7: the snaps that matter with camp, LIKE i do love the,

615
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 7: instincts And i'm, LIKE i hate saying the Name mahomes

616
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 7: because then it becomes this viral. Clip but the one

617
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 7: trait that is similar between these two And mahomes is

618
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 7: at this level And ward is at this, level is

619
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 7: there they have this innate like poison instinct in the

620
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 7: pocket that most guys when they start to sense pressure

621
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 7: it's dripped, back it's climb quickly and all. That they'll

622
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 7: wait an extra. Tick it's kind of their secret. Sauce

623
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 7: wait an extra tick so that the defender is that,

624
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 7: close so the movement is just one side step for

625
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 7: one one. Adjust he has that points but to bottle

626
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 7: up and this is the same thing With mahomes coming,

627
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 7: out he wasn't as he wasn't the polished product to

628
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 7: bottle up the clips that you see where he gets

629
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 7: to the top of his drop plants is put, down

630
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 7: drives the ball in. Time he's an absolute sniper when

631
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 7: he does those. Things And callahan sees. That And callahan's

632
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 7: been With Peyton manning when he started his. Career he's

633
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 7: been With Matthew stafford right he was there and Developed Joe.

634
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 7: Burrow they went to a Super bowl. Together SO i

635
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 7: think it's the right fit In. Tennessee AND i think

636
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 7: he's going to do really good. Things it's going to

637
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 7: take a. Minute he's not there yet in the. Organization

638
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 7: the roster is not there. Yet BUT i do like

639
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 7: to fit a lot With Brian callahan and cam Orton.

640
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: Tennessee where Does shador? Go does he fall all the

641
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: way to twenty.

642
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 7: One IF i had to bet now and you told

643
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 7: me that no one's trading up for, Him, Yes and

644
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 7: the most recent Information i've, gotten AND i will See

645
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 7: Mike commlin does really like, him bording Everyone i've talked

646
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 7: to that would be in the Note pittsburgh is not

647
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 7: holding to taking a quarterback at twenty. ONE i Think

648
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 7: pittsburgh had its choice in the. Matter they would trade

649
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 7: back in the first round and try to recoup a

650
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 7: pick they gave up their second round pick FOR. Dk

651
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 7: i'm told it's everyone said that's the floor For, shudor

652
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 7: AND i don't disagree, necessarily BUT i will, say according

653
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 7: to What i'm, hearing it's a softer floor Than. Shador's

654
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 7: can't probably wants to hear. About and if it's not twenty,

655
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 7: one where's he? Going and the more important thing, IS

656
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 7: i don't know how it's going to play out with

657
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 7: in The giants, building but there are some people on

658
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 7: this scouting, side the personnel department, side that really Want.

659
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 7: Shudor by all, accounts it's not going to be at,

660
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 7: three but they would like to maybe move up and

661
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 7: go get. Him unfortunately for, them the guy in the

662
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 7: building WHO i would trust the, most and one of

663
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 7: like less than fifteen people in the league THAT i

664
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 7: put them in a list of about fifteen people in the,

665
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: league maybe less THAT i trust the most when it

666
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 7: comes to quarterbacks and offensive minds is the head, Coach Brian.

667
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 7: Dable and IF i don't care if the quarterback out

668
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 7: lasts my head, Coach i'm going to lean on my

669
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 7: head coach who's one of a handful of guys in

670
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 7: the league that truly understands that, position how to develop

671
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 7: it and what to look. For And i'm told, that

672
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 7: And i've been saying it for two weeks. Now you

673
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 7: can go back and look If Brian dable should be

674
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 7: A Jackson dart. Guy And i'm now starting to hear

675
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 7: That Brian dables not necessarily A shadoor, guy and is

676
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 7: it is more of A Jackson dark. Guy and the

677
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 7: same thing AS i just told You Kellen moore In New.

678
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 7: Orleans so you've got two teams at thirty four in

679
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 7: The giants and forty In New orleans that, may if

680
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 7: my information is correct and just my football sense, too

681
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 7: be interested In Jackson. Dark so what do they go

682
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 7: trade up for him late in the first is trying

683
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 7: to find that spot to go up with late in the.

684
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 7: First maybe It's, minnesota maybe It's, pittsburgh, right but that's

685
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 7: Not shador right In cleveland's sitting there thirty. THREE i don't.

686
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 7: KNOW i still think there's a good shot he could

687
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 7: go twenty one To. Pittsburgh but if he gets to

688
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 7: twenty one and we're on the, CLOCK i can't sit

689
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 7: here and tell, you, oh this is gonna Be. SHADOR

690
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 7: i don't know that for, sure and.

691
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: You're flatly telling us it's not going to be The. Saints, yes, Wow,

692
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: uh he's gonna be waiting a.

693
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: While.

694
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 8: Man it's uh, YEAH i mean it only takes one you,

695
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 8: know there's there's always you, know like we didn't know

696
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 8: about The, ravers the ra the ray The.

697
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 7: Ravens and uh And Lamar. Jackson we didn't know About

698
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 7: atlanta and. Panic so like it only takes one team

699
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 7: kind of sneaking around the chicken coop waiting and flying

700
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 7: up there to go get. Him but, uh right, NOW

701
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 7: i can't identify that team that is so eager that

702
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 7: they would move back into the first to go get.

703
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: Them i'm gonna take your word that you said that

704
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago or a couple of months.

705
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 6: Ago we're not gonna Have mikey listened to the.

706
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: Tape, okay we're not gonna go back and find, it all,

707
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: RIGHT i trust him, time we believe.

708
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 7: YOU i believe.

709
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: You you send me the beta.

710
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 7: Tape it's not that you trust. Me got it's too

711
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 7: damn lazy to go do.

712
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 6: It, well, LISTEN i would Have mikey do, it BUT

713
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: i don't want.

714
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: To THEN i have to pay, him AND i don't

715
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: want to do.

716
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: That so it check out the McShay. Show he's with the.

717
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: Ringer what are you Doing Draft? Night promote what you're

718
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: doing On Draft?

719
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: Night you're doing? Anything you're just sitting back and.

720
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 7: Watching, Yeah i'm sitting back and. Watching who are you?

721
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 7: Talking come, on, MAN.

722
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: I thought like this whole new Like todd McShay. Cathartic

723
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: i'm not going to Green, Bay bleep Green.

724
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: BAY i got five. Hours i'm gonna sit. Back i'm

725
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy this.

726
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: Thing just put bleep Green bay in his.

727
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Mouth he said that he hates.

728
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 7: The, pleep, bleep the, weather sleep the. Weather come, on,

729
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 7: Man the mcshage. Show we're live one hour Before i'm

730
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 7: streaming the whole. NIGHT i want all of your audience

731
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 7: come join. Us we want one hundred thousand. People can,

732
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 7: fine put a network on the background and all, that

733
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 7: but like we got the, phones we got, iPads whatever

734
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 7: you're gonna, do get a second, screen but we're gonna

735
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 7: be on the entire. Night first night of the, draft

736
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 7: we're gonna live stream and. Uh and then the second

737
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 7: night we're doing the second. Round and Then, saturday we're

738
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 7: Invading risillo's. House you'll appreciate. THIS i. CALL i texted

739
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 7: him AND i was, like, listen like the, town you

740
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 7: know the. MOVIE i was, LIKE i was, like you

741
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 7: can't ask. Me you know what we're about to go,

742
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 7: Do like we're probably gonna have to hurt some, people

743
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 7: blah blah. BAH i THINK i need you to answer

744
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 7: whose car are we take? It and so he called

745
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 7: me back and he's, like all, right whose car are we?

746
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 7: TAKING i was, like we're taking over your. House we're

747
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 7: invading his. House On, Saturday i'm gonna try to Get

748
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 7: risillo to run a. FORTY i think he wants to

749
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 7: do the two twenty five bench. Reps, instead we're gonna

750
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 7: review the whole draft from from three Pm eastern until five,

751
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 7: pm kind of just having a blast Of rosillo's man.

752
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: CAKE i Imagine risillo having nothing but alcohol and beer

753
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 3: in house.

754
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: Furniture, yeah we're not in protein broke and a bench.

755
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: Press and when you said, THAT i was, like of

756
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: course he's got the space for all of this in that.

757
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: HOUSE i.

758
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 7: SAID i, Said i've been telling People i'm gonna try

759
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 7: to get you to run. Forty it's, like, YEAH i.

760
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 7: Heard and he and he's like a few BECAUSE i

761
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 7: heard you Said i'm gonna run a six, Flat so

762
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 7: MAYBE i will do. It he, Goes BUT i do

763
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 7: have a squad rack here and we can we can

764
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: put up to twenty. Five, yeah that's. That that, translates.

765
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: You got you got me in off that. Alone i'm

766
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: ready to go. Now so all, right we'll check it.

767
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: Out we're happy for.

768
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: You. Man the podcast is doing. Great he'll be live

769
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: an hour before the. Draft i'll take you through THE nfl.

770
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: Draft he is the.

771
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 6: Best he is top. Mcshak thank, you. Buddy you're a new.

772
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: PERSON i got to tell you you have never mother,

773
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: anyone and now you told the whole city Of Green

774
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: bay to go for.

775
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Themselves, oh, gosh what you get out of?

776
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 7: Here i'm from hanging out goodbye.

777
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: See it to see you CAN i?

778
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 4: CAN i just say he looks a lot Like rossello now,

779
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: too he. Does there's a little there's a little bit of.

780
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: That but let me tell, you the least surprising thing

781
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: in the world is him being able to Get rosillo

782
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: like that little bit of challenge there and Now ryan

783
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: immediately ready to go that all. TRACKS i would kill

784
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: to see it as someone that's worked out in the

785
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: same gym As Ryan rosseillo a few times when we

786
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: were all out in The East coast AT, espn there's

787
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: like one gym, that you know, what everyone kind of

788
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: went to In West, hartford And i'd See rossello in

789
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: there all the. Time and the dude's built and the

790
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: dude can move some. WEIGHT i want to see him

791
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: get under two twenty five and see what we got

792
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: under the hood.

793
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: HERE i need.

794
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 6: This, yes no one loves a sports radio challenge Like Ryan.

795
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: ROSILLO i mean, well.

796
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: And know, what, like there are very few people in

797
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: our industry physically capable of doing this ye in the

798
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: way That ryan.

799
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: Is at this point in. Time It's risillo And. Mike you.

800
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: SEE i, mean that's.

801
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 5: It the best part About rossello is he knows he's

802
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: being played with that. Challenge he doesn't care he's going

803
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: up in. It he doesn't. Care you challenge, Me i'm

804
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: going to do. It and he knows he's being he

805
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 5: knows he's being.

806
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: Baited, well this is The Mike tomlin school of press.

807
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: Conferences Mike tomlin always talked. About he's, LIKE i don't

808
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: care what Question i'm being. ASKED i know what information

809
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: i want to get out to our fan, base our,

810
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: organization our. Players and With ryan it's the same. Way,

811
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: hey you can ask me to do the forty or

812
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: any of this. STUFF i want to get under the,

813
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: bench preps bar and show you guys What i'm about.

814
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: Here so he's he's playing the forty chess with this

815
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 4: to get exactly what he wants out into the.

816
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: Universe AND i love.

817
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: It so you have McShay now working at The, ringer

818
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: living out IN la and he is morphed Into Ryan.

819
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: Riscilla is that what you're accusing him? Of like he

820
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: physically looks Like.

821
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: RISILLO i don't, Know it's just maybe it was the

822
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: angle or the lighting. There maybe it's BECAUSE i had

823
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: that Like ringer. Association but, no it's it's cool to

824
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: See todd back doing this, Too like you, said you,

825
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: know wasn't around last year for, it but you, know

826
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: hearing him, out you, KNOW i heard him talking about

827
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: mel a little bit in this.

828
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Draft it just feels.

829
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: Right like for better or for, worse they are always

830
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: going to be just in tandem and. Rotation and so

831
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: IF i know that My Mel kiper And todd McShay

832
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: are both covering the, draft the world feels a little

833
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: more in.

834
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: Balance he dropped that with.

835
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: Confidence by the, Way saints not Taking Shador sandanz like

836
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: that guy whoever was texting him back.

837
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Was not lying To todd.

838
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: Bigshay, yeah that's, uh that'll be the one to, watch.

839
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 4: RIGHT i know a lot of people are starting to

840
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: talk About Tyler shuck a little. More there's some people

841
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: that are curious Because Jalen milroe From alabama's going to

842
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: the draft and people are wondering if that means he

843
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: knows something or believes he's going higher than. That but

844
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: the story everyone's gonna be watching is if we get

845
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: out of the top five and all of a, sudden you,

846
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: know really nine will be the spot if we get

847
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: past nine and there's No Shador sanders, movement that's gonna

848
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: be a far cry from a guy who listened between

849
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: him and the conversation his dad about going we're coming

850
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: back to go number. One, overall they've made no bones

851
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 4: about their desire to do. THAT i Know dion softened

852
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: some lately through the draft process and it has been

853
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 4: a little you, know played the game a little bit.

854
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: More but that's what everyone's going to be queued up.

855
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 5: Watching we're talking About shador falling in the, draft but

856
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: what if he's not even the second quarterback.

857
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: Taken that's, like how much of a chip is going

858
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: to go on to.

859
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 6: Stability, yes obviously it's a.

860
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 5: Possibility it's this is the kind of draft where there's

861
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: such a dichotomy of people's opinions of these quarterbacks that

862
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: you could see somebody being, like, listen we need a,

863
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: quarterback BUT i just don't want that skill.

864
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: SET i want that skill. Set it's so.

865
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: Crazy Like Charlie weiss is my first head coach At Notre.

866
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 4: Dame his, Son Charlie, junior has been the offensive coordinator

867
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: At Ole miss for a while now and has worked

868
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: With Jackson dart And Charlie senior has been since the

869
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 4: end of the fall telling anyone who will, Listen Jackson

870
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: dart's a first round.

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00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: Quarterback Jackson dart's going to be a.

872
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: GUY i had a former like first, round top ten

873
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: overall quarterback come up to me the other, day just,

874
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: randomly and we were talking about quarterbacks in the. Draft

875
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: jackson And dart was the first name that he brought.

876
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: Up SO I i've been slower to The Jackson dart

877
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: party than, Most but it does seem that a lot

878
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: of people who have been around the, league or a

879
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: lot of people in there now are kind of into

880
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: that skill.

881
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Set you're, right still got did you catch that?

882
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: Flex how many top ten overall pick quarterbacks just walk

883
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 5: up to you to talk to you about their picks About?

884
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, NO i don't get that too many. Times. YEAH

885
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: i want to be, you Michaelict, JUNIOR i want to be.

886
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: You you guys still want the cam With belichick and his,

887
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: girlfriend and you want The Dion sanders.

888
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 2: CAM i, mean come, ON i still want The Jordan hudson.

889
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: Cam. MAN I i really think that she's she's in

890
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: her moment right.

891
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: Now she's got.

892
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 4: The juice for The dion's were we See dion, Everywhere

893
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: we're we're over exposed On.

894
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: Dion we need More. Jordan i'm gonna feel bad.

895
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: For shador, though if he's if, yeah, YEAH i feel

896
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: bad for any guy who just sits there and slides

897
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: and slides and, slides And dad's.

898
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: Getting upset and he's getting. Upset it's an emotional.

899
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: NIGHT i feel badly for. Him but, listen at least

900
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: he got his, jersey he. Retired this could be his

901
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: villain origin.

902
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: Story and you know, what honestly like Because i'm with,

903
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 4: You Steve.

904
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Gotts he's been so off talked.

905
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: About for his personality and for the association With dion

906
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: and all these things that aren't, football and some of

907
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: it is what you invite when you make your program

908
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: a reality television, show the Way dion wanted to do With.

909
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: Colorado chador certainly doesn't lack, confidence Which i'd expect for

910
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: someone who's the son of the greatest defensive back to

911
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: ever play. Football but he's still a human being getting

912
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: ready to go through. This he's had this dream since

913
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: he was a little. Kid he's on the custom but

914
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: and if he, slides that's gonna. Suck but it is

915
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: always that reminder that the further back you, get the

916
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: better situation you're usually sliding. Into and, yeah being a

917
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: top five pick is, great and having a one next

918
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: to your name is something that's going to give you

919
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: more opportunities than. Most but, man you slide back and

920
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: all of a sudden wind up in these situations like

921
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: we Saw Jackson dart a while, back mock to like

922
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 4: The rams at the end of the first.

923
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: Round, yeah being in a top five pick would have been.

924
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: Great being set up in an organization that is, healthy

925
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: has the structure around you to help make you, successful

926
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: has one of the it coaches in the league that

927
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: you get from the playoff teams further back into the

928
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: back end of the first round or the early second.

929
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Round it can end up being a.

930
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: Blessing and it won't feel like that on draft night

931
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: if he, falls but it could end up being a

932
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: great thing that happens to your career without you realizing

933
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: at the.

934
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Time we'll get out here in a.

935
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: Second but if you were just drafting on name, alone

936
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 3: And i'm talking all time here, right just name, alone

937
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: you could watch any, beta you could watch any, vhs

938
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 3: tape you could watch no. DVDs, okay just drafting on name,

939
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: alone you would Take Jackson dart number one overall, right

940
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: built in the lab to be a great quarterback, man

941
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: no question sprinting to the podium.

942
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: One one to take that guy one.

943
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: Overall, absolutely you're not taking your full fifteen.

944
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: Minutes, nope not even thinking about. It it's just however

945
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: long it takes me to write dart and remember that

946
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: isn't is it AN Xs jackson in the dart or

947
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: is it just an Ex jackson IN i think it's AN. Xs,

948
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: yes it. Isn't it isn't. Excess so however long it

949
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: takes me to probably get that wrong the first, time

950
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: have to erase it and then put THE s in The,

951
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: jackson that is how long it takes me to get

952
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: to the podium before drafting just off.

953
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 6: Name, mike is there another? Name or are you Going Jackson?

954
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Dart that's? IT i, Mean Jackson darts number.

955
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: One but If i'm picking, TWO i probably go with

956
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: a Cult colt, McCoy Colt. BRENNAN i probably go with

957
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: one of those. Guys that's probably my number two.

958
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: Pick how long before we get to Arch MANNING i, mean,

959
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: oh Arch manning's Arch manning might be an undrafted free. Agent,

960
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: yeah Cam ward's up there by the WAY i mean

961
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: it is they have a little Cam.

962
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: WARD i like.

963
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: That it's a good. Court it's a good quarterback. Name

964
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: i'm a big the kid that's going to be the

965
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: starter At Ohio state this, Year julian saying that'll register

966
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: with some anime, people but that, one for me immediately

967
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: jumps off The page's good quarterback, Name.

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00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 2: Gudge we appreciate you doing, this. Man that was. Fun

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00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: the draft is this. Week thanks To tom mcshafe for joining.

970
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: Us Dennis shrewder it's a. KILLER i thought he retired

971
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: five years. Ago