WEBVTT - It's Only a Paper Milk Over a Corn Silk Sea 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:09.880 It's four five am in Humboldt County and you're listening tonight. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:26.639 Call Welcome Tonight, Call a podcast for your rain soaked 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.440 days and moon soaked nights. I'm Molly Lambert and joining 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.200 me here in Los Angeles is Test Lynch. And guess 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.920 what That's all you get? That is it? That's what 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.320 you get. Emily Yoshida is in the snow at Sundance. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.560 She's been doing some really good reporting from Sundance on 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.040 all the movies she liked. I'm just picturing her waist 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:53.159 deep in snow, trudging between weird branded opportunities. You have 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.880 to fill in the gaps because she hasn't been giving 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.280 us that visual content. It's true. I feel I feel 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.440 like maybe she's also Emily is a connoisseur of bad 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.320 branded experiences, but I feel like maybe she's she's taken 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.280 taking a step back this year from the branded experience branded, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:12.840 from the full immersion of the the nightmare world. I'm 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.720 excited for when she gets back and we can grill 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.360 her on everything that is no longer embargoed. Yeah, we 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.119 were going to talk today about a documentary called Murder 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:27.399 Mountain on Netflix. After disparaging true crime documentaries on streaming services. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.160 We're going to just talk about one the whole time. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.360 We shan't disparage today. We ant disparage because we both 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.240 loved Murder Mountain. I watched the whole thing and testes 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.800 halfway through. And then we're going to talk about the 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.959 madness caused by the sea, which is related to space madness, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.800 which I think we've kind of touched on before, but 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.320 I got super into the idea of c madness and 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.840 now I know when someone asked if I would rather 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.960 go to the bottom of the ocean or two outer space, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.280 the answer is no longer so clear cut. It's a 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.480 deep investigation coming up. It's a deep dive. It's a 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.840 deep can you tell how silly we're feeling? Very Then 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.960 we're going to talk about food trends. Yeah, what's what's 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.320 on the way out and what's on It's called food Moods. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.240 It's a new segment we're debuting today, What's on the 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.519 way out and what's on the way in. Uh, let's 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.320 start with Murder Mountain. Okay, So I am going to 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.840 go ahead and say that so far I'm enjoying Murder 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.640 Mountain more than I did the Sun Yahson documentary, which 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.520 I just referenced last week. I believe when we were 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.040 talking about if you can leave um cooked dumplings out 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.440 for hours an hour right, and you said we can't 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.360 get well, I'm the only person who's concerned. I've had 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.720 food poisoning. It's not pleasant. But also you don't want 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.400 to eat a cold dumpling. Yes, but Test has been 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.519 concerned about serving food at our live show was that 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.120 it might give people salmonella, and then we would be 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.799 didn't specifically say salmonella, we did say food poisoning. They're 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.600 very different, like Sheila from giving people that's the thing, 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.600 but she did it on purpose. We would be doing 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.480 it accidentally. We're not going to do it because I 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.640 put my foot down and I was like, only having 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.040 Boston cream pie or cake or something that's shelf stable. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.160 It's crazy that you think Boston cream pie is shelf stable. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.480 It is because if you put enough sugar in something, 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:14.600 it actually acts as a preservative for milk. No, it's 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.040 for real, because think about things like think about you know, 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:22.480 baked goods that sit out. I think it like muffins. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.680 It is weird that the sugar acts as a preserve it. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.880 You can't do it forever, but you could do it 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.040 for good twenty four hours. This is a great introduction 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.840 to Murder Mountain because what makes Murder Mountain a great 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.600 documentary is that it is about a variety of people 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.720 who live in Humboldt, California, the weed growing capital of 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:45.200 the world, maybe America at least. But it's very rambly 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:52.560 and stony and features a wide variety of niche California 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:59.400 dirtbag archetypes. I heard about this documentary from Willie Staley 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.760 of New York Times fame and my brother Ben Lambert 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.880 of Lambo Lambo Fame. My brother told me to watch 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.720 it because he was like, gets a true crime documentary, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.280 but it doesn't really get to the point very much, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.160 but in a way and if they really have a 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.039 more compelling ambiance than I used to with such rambling stories. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.240 It's very rambling in everybody who's interviewed, well, there's a 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.400 lot of old hippies getting interviewed. First, for instance, Douglas 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.120 for yes, there's a gentleman named Douglas. For it is 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.600 about the story of how Humble became the weed capital, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.359 and the story is essentially like a bunch of hippies 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.520 moved there as part of the back to the Land 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.920 movement in the seventies and built a nonagone shaped building, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.280 a nine sided building. For some reason that has not 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.839 made clear. They were like, it had to be a 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.560 nine time. We all built it together. We built it 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.720 naked while wearing I was saying, there's like a bunch 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.400 of photos of just like naked hippies. It seems like 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.479 a very chill atmosphere that could not last because then 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.640 the money started rolling in. Well, I mean it's a 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.920 multilayered story because I think there's a certain type of 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.560 man who ages to look exactly like Stephen King does 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.720 now where it's like, you know, it's just the untamed eyebrows, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:19.040 the untamed ear hair. It's just a very fuzzy caterpillar 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.120 looking man. I'm very fond of this archetype. Everybody was 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.880 seemed very chill from the old guard. I mean that 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.160 is again maybe Test and I are the boomers at 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.520 heart of this podcast for but we were like very 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.960 enchanted by the old hippie whose name was Douglas for 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.760 Douglas for and then his friend whose name I forget, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.200 but Douglas Fur was the most charming Douglas for was 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.599 the drug smuggler who went He went to Pakistan. Oh yeah, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.560 that's right, and he got the seeds and they were 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.520 sewn into garments and little like jewelry bags and stuff 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.520 and brought back. But I think all of the old 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.840 hippies kind of make the distinction of we weren't criminals, 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.640 we were outlaws, like we just wanted to be self 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.599 sufficient and we just needed to like grow what we 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.360 needed and what we really really needed, what kind of 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.400 starts in the way, like wild wild country starts start. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.000 It's like we just like we were rejecting society and 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.560 we had to start our own society. But I could 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.080 totally understand where they were coming from much more easily 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.320 joined them back to the land movement immediately and just 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.120 like build nine sided buildings naked with a bunch of comrades, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.440 It seems fun, grow your own food. And then they 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.120 were like, oh and yes, we'd also one of ours, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.760 a staple of ours. I mean. Also, I think they 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.840 made kind of a good case for the fact that 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.960 a lot of people had served in Vietnam came back 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.840 and really didn't feel at home. In society, but we're 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.960 kind of just like peaceful, wanted to live in a community, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.920 and they were able to find this like understanding community 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.159 and then of course everything imploded with the War on drugs. Right, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.960 It's like the idea of the first preppers of people 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.480 being like, let's go be self sufficient and like live 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.040 off the land, and seemingly it went fun for a 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.080 little bit and then yeah, the War on drugs comes in. UM. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.000 I was saying, this is a lot like the there's 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.680 the Thomas Pynchon book Vineland is kind of about some 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:10.840 of this stuff. Uh, this was a great California documentary, everybody. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.720 It's also about like so it's a true crime documentary. Technically, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.960 the true crime element is the fact that so in 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.400 the Emerald Triangle, which is this um specific area of 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.000 Humboldt County in the southern part, there is I forget 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.400 what it's actually called, but all of the locals refer 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.080 to it as Murder Mountain because I mean, first of all, 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.080 the geography makes it really impossible to kind of you know, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.040 find people who have been lost, and also people will 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.920 come up for the harvest season and they already are 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.960 kind of like drifters a lot of the time. It 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.160 starts with that that there's like an economy of drifters 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.080 coming in and out to trim weed because it's like 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.120 a job you can take and like theoretically make a 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.040 bunch of money in a year or summer or whatever. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:57.240 But Murder Mountain also has a really heavy like criminal component, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.400 and everybody's armed, and there are these guys on a 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.080 TV is with you know, their own guns. Even when 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.080 when the police come up to Murder Mountain, um, these 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.160 like they're almost like security for Murder Mountain will kind 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.200 of escort the police, and the police were like, no thanks. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.600 So the police hate going up there. So it's kind 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.040 of like this lawless area. Um. But it was interesting 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:21.280 because when they interviewed some of the residents, like a 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.160 lot of the missing person's posters are put up by parents, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.040 and like a lot of the people who live up 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.560 a Murder Mountain our parents. So these two moms were like, oh, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:34.000 hell no, we're gone. That is the true crime element 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.360 of Murder Mountain is a kid who went from San 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.880 Diego Ocean Beach Ocean Beach, And it's also like this 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.960 was very tragic, but also like interesting because so many 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.880 true crime documentaries are about missing women, you know, where 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.680 you see a million pictures of them and maybe some 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.560 like video footage, but you never hear their voice. And 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.520 that was like this but with the dude, and I 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.719 wasn't very I was like, oh, I'm so unused to this, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:01.920 Like I kept waiting to be like, what is this 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.600 guy like? And then it was just like he was 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.199 just a chill, so cow bro. I don't know. I mean, 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.319 it sounds like he wasn't like perfect, but not not 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.160 that anyone needs to, but he was so San Diego 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.839 and whenever they showed footage of him, for all the 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.480 stuff they had where there was like a tribute to 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.679 him and it was like a Sublime cover band. It 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.600 was all very Sublime. And so that was funny to me, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.120 just because it was not like funny that you abductive, 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.480 but funny. But like there was all this stuff about 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.280 the nor Caw like so called divide know where they 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:36.040 were like he didn't understand the culture around here. Ye. Well. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.480 Also it should be noted that Humboldt County, I think 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.400 has a higher percentage of missing people than anywhere else 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.400 thinks that's what they say. Also They're like, people come 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.000 through all the time, and people go missing all the time, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.280 so it's very hard if you're like pursuing a specific 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.440 missing person. They were just like and it's like a 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.160 pretty small place, so they only have a sheriff anything. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.520 The department is overextended or whatever. But this documentary also 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.640 ends up being about the fallibility of the police and 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.079 I got to go to the private investigator. Yeah, it's 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.440 about how the cops don't do anything to help. Yeah, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.680 And also, I mean the divide between the police and 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.760 the residents is very it's obviously pretty intense. I mean 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.080 they also showed a town hall where now the people 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.880 have been harvesting weed on the black market, are trying 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.640 to go legit, and it's just cripplingly expensive. They're all 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.960 losing all of their savings, and they're doing it because 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.480 they want to be able to not feel as though they're, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.040 you know, living under this threat that they're constantly going 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.720 to be exposed and sent to prison or whatever. But 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.360 it's so prohibitively expensive that they're just risking kind of 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.800 everything they have. And I think the police have this 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.480 animosity towards people who are in any way involved in 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.000 the black market. So they were super dismissive of this 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.960 guy's dad. They didn't want to help at all, so 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.199 he had to go to a private investigator, which, by 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.000 the way, quick pause, Molly, would you ever be a 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.480 private investigator? Oh? I think we fantasized about this every day. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.280 I think about it all the time. I call is 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.280 a p I firm. Would you drive around? They would 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:10.160 be like the private investigators. She is great because that's 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.440 what happens is then like a cool lady who wants 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.120 to get to the bottom of things coming. It's just 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.840 a great assortment of characters. It's like a big ensemble, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.800 which I enjoy. I loved it. I'm also I usually like, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:27.080 don't admit this, but I've never been to northern California. Right, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.560 I'm just gonna say, I'm really been into Northern California. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.120 I've been. I've been to Napa and that's it. It does. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.920 But it was like brief. I mean, it was super brief. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.439 I'm so deeply ashamed now. I just and I've been 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.400 to Big sir, but I've never like really spent any 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.920 I mean I've been here for however many years, been 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.880 to San Francisco. Yeah, Okay, I'm dancing around never to 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.440 San Francisco. But I've also I never like spent any 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.240 like large chunk of time. I mean when I went 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.440 to Big Sir, it was for my honeymoon. So I 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.679 just kind of like planted myself in a hotel and 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.719 was like big trees. Right, I did, But it's like 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.240 I took one walk, you know what I mean. Looking back, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.040 I have these pictures and I was like, there's that 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.880 on her honeymoon. She's like, I kind of get back 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.839 to work. Wait, I started remember this happening to you. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.400 There were I have pictures on my computer. Somehow you 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.840 had a problem being off the grid. It's such a 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.720 huge problem being off the grid. I mean, it's it really. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.640 That's what this documentary really kind of drove home for 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.120 me on a personal level was I was like, man, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.120 look at them like they're just of the land. Like 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.800 when I was out in that same beautiful, majestic forest, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.760 I was like, I don't know, I mean, they're not 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.840 of the land, because well that's what they get to. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.679 I mean, first of all, then they get to like 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.720 it's being legalized, which is what is so weird is 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.840 then they're like now it's like this entire industry that's 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.960 thrived because it's like an outlaw industry is gonna go legit. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.959 And there's like the split between the people that embrace 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.760 legalization and the people that are like it's rigged, Like 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.280 we got to keep selling it on the black market 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.960 to the rest of the states that don't have legalized 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.440 weeds still and we can sell them weed. People say 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.480 the word outlaw more than I've ever heard. They say 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.640 outlaw and vigilante. Every other word out of everyone's mouth 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.400 is like you got to be an outlaw up here. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.600 But it's like the Waylon Jennings kind of outlaw. It's 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.000 not like the outlaw. It's a real like Boomrie outlaw 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.960 that they are talking about, and that's like that's the 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.120 first thing that happens. It's like, so the hippies who 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:37.400 like founded the commune and created the weed growing economy 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.640 get forced out by the like once there's money involved, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.680 they get forced out by sort of like scary drug dealers. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.480 I saw my dad about this documentary and he was like, Oh, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.280 I knew a woman who like moved to Mendocino or 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.560 whatever to to grow weed on a weed farm and 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.760 then left because she was like everybody had to sleep 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.160 with a shotgun at night. Yeah, And I mean that's 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.679 the other really crazy thing about this documentary is they go, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.800 is it uh a guy whose last name is Dookie 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.800 do brothers? Okay, So yeah, there's a secondary storyline about 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.600 a guy who is like this horrible part of there's 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:16.800 like the new generation of weed growers are like the worst. Yeah, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.880 California like a TV. Maybe it'll be charming later, t bros. No, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.600 it's so bad because that guy they introduced him and 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.240 then he immediately is a dick to like these workers. Well, 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.560 he takes eight bond rips, he has three cups of 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.240 came meal T. He's talking about how professional he is. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.440 Then his workers come with just a new businessman like here, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.160 I am selling my product that is wed. Yeah, I 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.800 have to drink came meal T and take on my 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.800 bad rips. Yeah, and then the workers come in. One 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.479 second later, the workers arrive. Absolutely, he's not the professional 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.800 camemeal drinker. He pretends he's a total dick to them. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.280 And he's a white guy, and he's a dick to 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.400 these like migrant farm workers and you're like you need 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.160 to so they're pretty justified when they throw a rock 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.320 through his window. Yeah, So then he's like a second later. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.760 That's also like, that's a great part of the documentary 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.160 because it's very relatable seeing somebody who's clearly very stressed 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.320 out be like, I'm going to smoke more weed and 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.120 this will solve the problem. So he does like five more. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.720 He's like, I guess I better take a big bong 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.200 rip now to chill out. Ha ha, and he like 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.880 does all these bong hits compulsively, and then he just 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.160 makes them more paranoid and weird. And then they throw 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.200 a rock through his window because he blames them for 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.520 his crop getting screwed up, and they're like, it's not 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.440 our fault that like mold grew on your crop, but yeah, 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.880 I'm not paying you anything. It's super gross. So his 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.720 name is like Jeff Dukey. It's it's either Jeff or 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.960 Mike or exactly that kind of thing, and he's like, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:48.440 it's the Dukie Brother's weed company. So he is another character. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.960 And then there are these two women who are just 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.400 like local yokels who seem really cool. One of them 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.080 she died before the documentary was completed. It was made 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.160 so it's her friend talking her name was Sherry, who died, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.800 and then her friend is kind of talking about how 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.120 um Sherry got interested in the missing person's case and 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.320 kind of took it on herself to go stick in 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.680 her nose where it didn't belong. And they look like 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.680 real like just dust bowl. Love it, love it, like 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.080 those photographs of women in the dust bowl where just 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.800 like people have just been living in, like like their 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.640 mouths are just a line. They all look real craggy. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.800 We were saying, everybody in this documentary kind of looks 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.960 like a redwood. Do you think it's the altitude. I 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.240 don't know, it's also the style. I'm kind of embracing 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.200 that style. The women all looked really cool. There were 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.320 a couple of women they show. There's this one woman 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.920 who's a grower who's so cool. Are you talking about 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.200 pink hair? Yeah, she's so really cool, right, And then 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.600 there was like another woman who they kept showing who 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.160 had kind of like a big sunglasses and oh, yeah, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:59.200 so that's the missing person's aunt. She seemed also, I 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.520 was like, what, it's her. A lot of interesting faces, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:07.199 just some good like kind of California weird archetypes, and 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.800 then all these bros and like board shorts and valcom hats, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.240 who are the new generation of weed growers? 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You really cannot know what to feel 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:48.520 guilty about if you partake in the business of weed. Yeah, 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.600 this will make thee This documentary doesn't even really go 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.960 into like it talks about the War on drugs a 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.760 little bit, but it's like it's a pretty white documentary. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.520 It's of an extreme, extremely white document entering, so they 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.760 don't they don't even talk. It's like some of these 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.040 people being like, oh, yes, we were just outlaws growing 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.360 our weed and like living our lives. It's like, well that. Honestly, 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.720 I felt as though the just how white it was 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.680 kind of told its own story. I felt it was 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.600 intentional of just the threat of what happens to you 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.399 if you're a white person in California getting in trouble 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.960 for weed is very different than yeah, otherwise, it doesn't 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.960 even really go into that. It's just sort of about 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.080 like the specific the specificity of like the humblet weed market, 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.359 and then it's like, yeah, it's all like crazy like 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.720 white meth heads with guns and it's terrifying. It is 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.280 because Dan, that's what they show you. It's like Murder 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:45.280 Mountain is just like a bunch of crazy, tweaked out 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.320 people with weed farms and shotguns and they talk a 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.280 lot about like everybody's like, oh, here's my gun. Just 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.480 got my gun out, like like somebody shoots somebody later 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.400 on in the documentary spoiler alert, just because they're like, oh, 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.639 he took his gun out like he always does. In 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.720 the other the guy was like tweaking out and thought 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.639 it was a threat, so he shot him in the face. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.640 And you're like, that probably happens a lot. Everybody's really 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.600 paranoid because they're like trying to grow a crop that 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.960 like if it fails, they're going to go broke. Uh. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:17.960 And there's a lot of like looting. Also. It is 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.680 very painful to me to see the archival footage of 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.399 the police in the In the I think it was 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.639 three was when they started using helicopters to find the 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.800 farms and the police would just come down and just 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.600 harvest all the weed and lighted on fire and it 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:37.720 just was so unbearable stupid. Uh. Anyway, good documentary. No, 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.320 I mean I think I also like the war on 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.080 drug stuff again, just to put that stuff in historical contexts, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.960 especially now that they're like repealing weed or making weed legal, 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.439 to be like, yeah, yeah, but look what also we 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.560 did too people, Oh yeah, sold weed. And so that's 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.320 the thing in the documentary to is sort of like 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.200 the police trying to deal with like, well, now it's legal, 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.040 so we have to help them, and then they're suddenly 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.320 sort of interested in helping solve the case. There was 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:07.200 at least one ex law enforcement officer who expressed remorse 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.359 about what had happened um during the eighties drug bus 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.240 and like how he had kind of been complicit and 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.000 driving up the cost of weed and like making it 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.719 a really unstable whereas before it had been kind of 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.960 just like this you know, community of farmers who were 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.240 trying to make enough money to live off of, but 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.040 had turned it into this kind of like race of 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.920 just greedy people and this influx of I keep talking 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.280 about the green rush, like the gold rush for weed, 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.680 And they also talked a lot about like all these 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.080