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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side hour three The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Why are you laughing?

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Speaker 4: It's just funny.

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Speaker 1: I have heard it in a few days because I

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Speaker 1: heard laugh a few days because it's funny when you

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Speaker 1: say muto obo and you said.

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Speaker 3: Hadn't heard any fake laughed to my stuff?

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I laughed for real.

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Speaker 3: That was fake.

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Speaker 4: No, I'll get it fake. Oh go ahead, say something.

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Speaker 1: Else, mets you you're so funny.

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Speaker 3: Sound of the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, that was a fake one. Harmony

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Speaker 1: was the other one was a real one. I'm caught

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Speaker 1: in a uh time time lapse in time continuum that's

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Speaker 1: been broken.

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Speaker 4: What the hell does that even mean? That's what I'm

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Speaker 4: trying to say. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: That. That was my response to, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: try to guess whether you're laughing or fake. You'd be

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Speaker 1: a great politician. Well, you're like pious thickness from Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. There's many things, my lord, whether the

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Speaker 1: truth is among them as yet to why there was

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Speaker 1: a nonsensical, true politician pious you will be well, I

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Speaker 1: will say this, no spoiler, no spoiler, no spoiler. But

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Speaker 1: you know Ray Findes is in twenty eight years later? Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: what he's what he's won that? Well, he's in the movie.

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Speaker 1: He's been doing a lot of promotion for it. He

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Speaker 1: said he didn't care. I don't know. He's he's been

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Speaker 1: in the movie. And the movie takes place in the

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom. Okay, so we know these things.

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Speaker 3: What's next. There's zombies?

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Speaker 1: No, no, there's actually it's a no zombie film. They're

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Speaker 1: Wizardy film. There's no zombies. Okay, yeah, they're they're all unicorns.

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Speaker 1: What except except all of the horns like are mechanical

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Speaker 1: and they kill people just by like just putting in.

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Speaker 1: It's like getting one of those big drills. Yeah, sho

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Speaker 1: show he is the one that has the Dodger's home

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Speaker 1: it on you see that? Yeah, and and the and

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Speaker 1: the actual the screwy thing comes out of the help

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Speaker 1: long Yeah, no yourself? When is showy Unicorn bobblehead nice?

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Speaker 1: So again knows again, I promise me no spoilers. But

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Speaker 1: Ray finds it and he and he has you know,

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Speaker 1: he speaks with a British accent because it's it's in

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Speaker 1: the UK, so obviously doesn't need to play someone you know,

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Speaker 1: from the United States or different places. And every time

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Speaker 1: he talks, I just keep waiting for him to say, like,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely a Voldemort kind of vibe that I hanging

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Speaker 1: in there, and I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting for him

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Speaker 1: to say something. I did that when I was watching

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Speaker 1: the menu for the first time in the theater, going

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Speaker 1: to kill you now, Harry, Yes, he actually plays Valdimore. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So how do they find the horse Crux? Well, the

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Speaker 1: thing is it's a zombie horse crucks.

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Speaker 3: You said there's no zombies.

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Speaker 4: Say I lied. There actually are zombies.

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Speaker 1: That's logic than the sentence I gave you no, look

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Speaker 1: I told you twenty eight years later. Is fun, it's

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Speaker 1: it's good, it's different, but there are definitely some plotlines.

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Speaker 4: I go, oh, okay, I got a question about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I gotta, I gotta, I got a question about that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I saw a movie over the weekend that included stuff

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Speaker 1: about unicorns too materialists. Oh I thought you're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: like my little Pony. No, I did not go down

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Speaker 1: that that well. But yeah, Dakota Johnson and Pedro Pascal

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Speaker 1: and uh Captain America christ Evans. No, that sounds to

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Speaker 1: me like a movie that was they shot like three

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Speaker 1: years ago and it's just been sitting around. You may

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Speaker 1: as well as well put it out.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Good, Let's take advantage of putting a Pedro Pascal movie out,

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Speaker 1: like a week before the Fantastic Four comes out. Let's

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Speaker 1: take advantage. Let's dump it right. I just got that field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, I just got that sense. It worked

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Speaker 1: for me, a little bit of a rom com. Kept

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Speaker 1: waiting for that a twenty four twist. Oh yeah, like

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like you know that the kid

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Speaker 4: A kid that shouldn't have chocolate cake, has chocolate cake,

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Speaker 4: and they gut to go to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go ahead. Frost for God. Is that where

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Speaker 1: Ronald Lacuna Junior saves the day and slays the Mets?

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Speaker 1: You were just a dude. You're like Yankee fans. You're

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Speaker 1: obsessed with the Mets every single day. You're like more

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Speaker 4: Ls just keep coming, obsessed with a team that beats

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Speaker 4: you four out of seven already this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they set up the rest of the

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Speaker 1: league and then beat their ass because after that Dodger series,

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Speaker 1: if they have not been the same, Oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: well we're still trying to was the end of that

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Speaker 1: first game of that race series, which but you don't

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Speaker 1: sound but hurt at all by it. I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. We're still fifteen sixteen games over five hundred.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, We're not twelve games under. Then I would say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now things are getting really bad, but keep this up.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be I will have to say, Hey, how

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Speaker 1: about Grimace gets out there and throws out the first

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Speaker 1: bleep and pitch tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Hey, David Stearns. How about that? Huh, how about you

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Speaker 4: get him back?

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Speaker 1: But you know tomorrow is Silver Sluggers Tuesday and Silver

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Speaker 1: Surfer Tuesday. Is that what it is? No silver sluggers.

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Speaker 1: Evidently it's a special thing if you're fifty five years

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Speaker 1: old or older. Oh, it's a ticket package. You had

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Speaker 1: a cheap breakfast at I hoop? Is that what it

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Speaker 1: is for the silver slider? It's the Mets. I'd like

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Speaker 1: one silver slugger. I think the Mets don't have any

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Speaker 1: silver sluggers. We have lots of players that are good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just again, Yankee like, yeah, you're like Fabiano my dad. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're just obsessed with the Mets. I don't go to

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Speaker 1: bed at seven o'clock tomorrow. You get a warning track

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Speaker 1: salute whatever that means. I think if you bought the

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Speaker 1: ticket package, I think you get to go on the

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Speaker 1: warning track and the rest the crowd salute you forget

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Speaker 1: and reach it fifty five years old, the crowd collapse

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Speaker 1: when the Mets at the fly ball to the warning

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Speaker 1: say Gina played that. So Tyrese Halliburton about twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: his achilles tear. Uh, gonna miss maybe all of next season,

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Speaker 1: getting hurt in Game seven. Yes, you're like a big

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Speaker 1: topic we've been talking about, and uh, he's got a big,

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Speaker 1: long statement, right. He obviously obviously pays for a Twitter

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Speaker 1: premium because he puts out like seven paragraphs and it's

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Speaker 1: a great statement. It's a great thing of how he's

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Speaker 1: feeling right now, and you know, telling Indiana he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be back. But this is what I want to focus on,

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Speaker 1: is what he says. In the end of the first paragraph.

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Speaker 1: He types out, Man, don't know how to explain it

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Speaker 1: other than shock. Words cannot express the pain of this letdown.

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Speaker 1: The frustration is unfathomable. I've worked my whole life to

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Speaker 1: get to this moment, and this is how it ends.

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Speaker 1: Makes no sense. Read the next three lines. Now, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: now that I've gotten surgery, I wish I could count

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Speaker 1: the number of times people will tell me I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come back stronger. What a cliche? Lol, This blank sucks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good, right, So I guess you don't get

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Speaker 1: right to it again. And I'm always very cognizant of

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Speaker 1: when something bad happens to someone to want it to

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Speaker 1: not just say right away, you'll be fine, everything be fine. No,

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Speaker 1: I get there. You want to broadbrush and make everything

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Speaker 1: better right away. But understand that people are going through

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Speaker 1: stuff and you can't just say, oh, you'll be fine,

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Speaker 1: you'll be fine. You don't go to a funeral when

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Speaker 1: someone significant other dies and says, you know you'll love

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Speaker 1: the single scene. You know who's always had a crush

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Speaker 1: on you. Let me tell you. You don't do that right

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Speaker 1: to understand. I know it's awful, and you help people

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Speaker 1: that way. Don't just write away you'll be fine. It's

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Speaker 1: been less than twenty four hours and I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: a year of not playing basketball. And you gotta give

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Speaker 1: people a chance. You gotta get when bad stuff happens.

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Speaker 1: Understand that. Yeah, it's just an instinct though. It's just

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Speaker 1: to be positive. You mean, well, but you understand, and

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Speaker 1: they're They don't know what to say, but they want

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Speaker 1: to wish good things for you, but at some point

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Speaker 1: it's like, Hey, I'm in a really low place right now.

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Speaker 1: Understand that they would like somebody to talk to you

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Speaker 1: You'll be fine. I'm gonna go get to get a sandwich, Like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I understand this is really bad thing, dude, and I

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Speaker 1: get it. Sandwich can cure at least could really make

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Speaker 1: you feel better. Yes, how about how about I get

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Speaker 1: you a sandwiches? No, I'm so sorry about Can I

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Speaker 1: get you a sandwich? Can I get some? But this

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Speaker 1: week ago. So when you heard it today on the

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Speaker 1: radio or television, you were like, oh, remember we're ahead

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Speaker 1: of the curve. The latest player to blow is Achilles

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Speaker 1: this season in the playoffs Tyre's Holibary.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: We watch happen a couple other times watch with Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 1: The NBA playoffs are simply too long, and we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this because what the playoffs have become is not Hey,

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Speaker 1: here's a march to the NBA Finals and the two

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Speaker 1: best teams are playing. It's the two teams that are

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Speaker 1: at some point the NBA has got to realize, that's

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Speaker 1: not a great formula. Man, It's not all the other

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Speaker 1: sports are. We got the best of the best going

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Speaker 1: at it. Major League Baseball they find a way to

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Speaker 1: put a lot of teams and it doesn't take forever

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Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Best teams play right, hottest teams make

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Speaker 1: it right. Best teams. Same thing for the NFL. Yes,

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Speaker 1: injuries happen in the NFL, but generally, hey, the best teams,

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Speaker 1: they make it. We're playing our best football the best time.

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Speaker 1: Our game plan is better. But the NBA has simply

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Speaker 1: become a war of attrition. It's been we need to

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Speaker 1: win the series and stay healthy. And every year there

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Speaker 1: is a first team NBA All Star team where guys

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Speaker 1: get hurt and get knocked out for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs or part of the next season. It's just

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Speaker 1: too much. The NBA already he asked too much of

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Mets must have played today? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It ended, It ended and ended poorly for the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just see online there's a certain highly respected

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Speaker 4: No, maybe now because John Paul Morosi, like did.

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Speaker 4: You can do that now.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not like it used to be where

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Speaker 1: Do you like the pizza, Pizza and the Pope. There

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Speaker 4: Millions upon millions and millions. Forget about Joe Rogan people.

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Speaker 4: You would get fifty million people would listen to that podcast.

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Speaker 1: guy was at the World Series. There's video of him

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Speaker 1: at the World Series. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I think he knows. I think he knows. I

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Speaker 4: think I you know what, I think that probably.

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Speaker 1: Helped him, you know, because that helps you through a

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Speaker 1: lot of Hey, the Pope, Hey, the Pope is for

435
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Speaker 1: you know, lost causes, right, that's what you know. Hey,

436
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Speaker 1: the Pope is for lots of causes. He knows how

437
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Speaker 1: to help you through pain, suffering and longing. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: he was a Yankees fan, they'd never say said, beat it.

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Speaker 1: You're not making any Yankee fan, pope. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to see your pope hat with a

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Speaker 1: Yankee logo on the front, because you know that's what happened.

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Speaker 4: Forget it. Can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Put on a ball with Gena's number on the back,

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Speaker 1: like like in in h like in the White Chalk.

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Speaker 1: It's a special commemorative number is on the back, Gita

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Speaker 1: on the back, Gina, you might not know. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure he knows. John paulm Rossi is not going to

448
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Speaker 1: Italy to interview the Pope unless he knows he's gonna

449
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Speaker 1: be able to talk a little bit of baseball with him.

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Speaker 1: Oh baseball, sure, Yeah, Hey, white Sox, though, Yeah, do

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Speaker 1: you think like you think like the Pope would pull

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Speaker 1: one of those uh superstar things, like when uh, like

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Speaker 1: when we went to uh the Super Bowl a few

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Speaker 1: years ago and somebody's uh lost up the chocolate factor.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's PR team said to us, Okay, no questions about

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Speaker 1: the Heisman trophy, gave us a full sheet Elliott's people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I wasn't gonna say it, but you did. Okay, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it was the most ridiculous. No questions about Urban Meyer,

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Speaker 1: no questions about the Heisman Trophy. Then then why are

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Speaker 1: we talking to him?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you think like that?

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Speaker 4: You know, John Palmer Rosi goes in and he and

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Speaker 4: the Pope's pr like the like uh kind of Jordan

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Speaker 4: Hudson and says, okay, no questions about the White Sox,

467
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Speaker 4: no questions about Ryan Storm ride store phownership, no questions

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Speaker 4: about the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be strict religion podcast, right. You

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Speaker 1: even bring up Albert Bell's court back all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I can't ask the Pope any of these questions, I guess. Okay,

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Speaker 1: remember that was a laminated sheet they put in front

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Speaker 1: of us. Some questions we could not ask.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 1: If I were to tell you, I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of sign memo for that one.

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Speaker 5: It was one of the dumbest things I've foreseen. Signs

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Speaker 5: of him eating the spoon actually moves like a bobblehead.

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Speaker 1: And we did the inn.

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Speaker 4: We never aired it because it was like, Okay, we

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Speaker 4: can't talk about the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, here's all. Here's the five things people would

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Speaker 1: actually want to hear. I tell you we hear it. No,

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Speaker 1: we didn't wear it. We did not air it.

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Speaker 4: No we heard it.

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Speaker 1: No we didn't. Wait wait, do you need to say

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Speaker 1: that for somebody to keep something or asolutely aired it.

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Speaker 4: No, we didn't air it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving that stuff back. No, we didn't giving

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Speaker 1: back my head with the spoon on it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing that. But ye, that tattoos bob bobblehead. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about earlier. What's next? You're gonna have me return

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Speaker 1: my Sam Donald authentic draft hat. Wait you kept that.

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Speaker 1: You were supposed to give that to me poster. Now

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because he's you know, he's on his

496
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Speaker 1: fourth team since the Jets, So it's okay, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter if you don't have that. But if it makes

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, Jason, guess what he doesn't have? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think I'm okay with the possibility

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Speaker 1: of having to wear that if Sam Darnold goes to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And for all you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm saving it for you, buddy. Oh thanks, wow, for

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Speaker 1: all I look at that, but all you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is though a good line. For

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Speaker 1: all you know, Well, you know I'm saving it for

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Speaker 1: you when he goes. Here's your Sam Darkold unless I

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Speaker 1: don't wear it in good health. But look, you want

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Speaker 1: a hot take coming off again, we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: big NBA trade. This went down a few minutes ago

510
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Speaker 1: and coming up in a few minutes. But Game seven

511
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Speaker 1: of the Finals, right, Halliburton gets hurt and we spent

512
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Speaker 1: a lot talking about it. It's a big shocking story,

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Speaker 1: and the Pacers have a one point lead at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Halliburton gets hurt midway through the first quarter, and in

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Speaker 1: the second half the thunder do enough to win. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm generally not one of those guys it's gonna say,

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Speaker 1: oh man, if this guy didn't get hurt, everything would

518
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Speaker 1: have been different. Now, if Halliburton didn't get hurt, we'd

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Speaker 1: beat tonight talking about the Pacers winning the NBA title

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Speaker 1: and being the most unlikely NBA champion since either the

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Speaker 1: Pistons in two thousand and four or the Milwaukee Bucks

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight. Like we'd be going back talking

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Speaker 1: about where this ranks as far as most shocking champions

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Speaker 1: in a sport, because this game was going the Pacers

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Speaker 1: way right, and I don't mean it was going the

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Speaker 1: Pacers way up until Halliburton got hurt.

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Speaker 4: For the entire first half.

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Speaker 1: Even with Halliburton hurt, they were hitting their threes, they

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Speaker 1: were moving the basketball. This was one of those games

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Speaker 1: where the Pacers were getting the thunder to play their way.

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Speaker 1: And what the Pacers like to do, and we've seen

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Speaker 1: plenty of times in the playoffs, is they want to

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Speaker 1: get their third quarter, fourth quarter rotations to the point

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Speaker 1: where the other teams stars are tired and they're still

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Speaker 1: trotting out fresh guys and they're hitting threes who were

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Speaker 1: guys who were wide open because the other team is

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Speaker 1: tired and they're not as focused and not as locked

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Speaker 1: in defensively. This is what the page why the Pacer

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Speaker 1: were able to come back and win games because their

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Speaker 1: rotation goes eight to nine deep, right, and Halliburton was

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Speaker 1: going to be someone that was going to open that

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Speaker 1: up right in the third and fourth quarter. He's the

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Speaker 1: guy that sets up the threes, being as tall as

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Speaker 1: he is, being able to move in and out of

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Speaker 1: defenders the way he does, he's so light on his feet.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that makes the open shots the Nie

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Speaker 1: Smith happen, makes the open shots to Matherin have and

548
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Speaker 1: so there would they would have been better hitting threes

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Speaker 1: in the second half, which they couldn't do because they

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Speaker 1: started off pretty well hit in threes which they couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: So the Pacers, I know the game they would have played,

552
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Speaker 1: they would have they were getting the Thunder to play

553
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Speaker 1: their pace, and honestly, you look at the Thunder, this

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Speaker 1: was a poorly played Game seven. I can't I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there's a team that's won a Game seven

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Speaker 1: in the history of the NBA that's played as poorly

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Speaker 1: as the Thunder did. They didn't shoot well, they didn't

558
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Speaker 1: close out, they didn't find a way to really throw

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Speaker 1: the Hammer down. It was just okay. Third quarter, we

560
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Speaker 1: stopped the Pacers from hitting their threes were eventually going

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Speaker 1: to win. But this was a bad game shooting from Halliburton.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, you finally had a nice night

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Speaker 1: from Chad Holmgren. But there's nobody else to write home about,

564
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Speaker 1: to say, boy, this guy saved us. It was simply yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Pacers were reeling without Halliburton, and they did the

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Speaker 1: best they could, but eventually they were too hamstrung and

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Speaker 1: all the Thunder had to do was just not give

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Speaker 1: it away, and they almost did. Right, This is a

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Speaker 1: game they should have won by thirty thirty five points.

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Speaker 1: This should have been Hey, a ten to fifteen point

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Speaker 1: lead at halftime, a thirty point lead going to the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And they're all laughing on the bench for

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Speaker 1: most of it, watching guys come off the bench that

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Speaker 1: never play play six seven minutes the end of this game.

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Speaker 1: But it's not because the Thunder played terribly. They played

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Speaker 1: poorly in game six, they played poorly in Game seven.

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Speaker 1: They just didn't they They just happened to play not

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Speaker 1: as badly and were as hurt as the Pacers not

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Speaker 1: having Tyres Halliburton. I mean, if you told me before

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Speaker 1: the game, hey, what what are the final numbers gonna

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Speaker 1: look like for the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game seven, right,

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Speaker 1: you said, be okay, and the numbers are gonna look

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Speaker 1: like this. They're gonna shoot right around forty from the floor.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, they're not gonna hit their threes. SGA is

585
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Speaker 1: gonna go eight for twenty five? Is anybody gonna stand out?

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Speaker 4: No, you're gonna get ten from Caruso off the bench, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Chet Holmburn's gonna be okay. Anything else or anybody else? No,

588
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Speaker 4: not really.

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Speaker 1: I would say then they're gonna lose. This is we're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose by ten or fifteen points. Instead they won

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Speaker 1: by double digits. This was not a great game. They

592
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Speaker 1: were bad on Sunday night, but they just happened to be.

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Speaker 1: Have to outlast the team you're playing agains. You're not

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Speaker 1: playing another superstar stud a team. You're playing a team

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Speaker 1: that's minus its second best player and it's emotional leader

596
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Speaker 1: and a guy that's become a star in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and that's a hard thing to come back from if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get hurt. We're talking about the Pacers World

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Speaker 1: Champions battled back to a ten point deficit inside that

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Speaker 1: final two minutes. But okay, See holds them off to

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Speaker 1: your point forty percent from the field. I mean one

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Speaker 1: of the things that Indiana had done all regular season

603
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Speaker 1: and certainly during the playoff stretches feasting on turnovers and

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Speaker 1: making teams pay by going to pace. Well, they gave

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Speaker 1: up thirty two points off turnovers in this one. Right,

606
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Speaker 1: And while oka See wins the points in the paint

607
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: with Chad having a big game, he had disappeared several times.

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Speaker 1: And much to my sugar In and or two guys

609
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Speaker 1: I championed all along, they're champions. And now I'm like,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't play well. Right, they got their tunnel,

611
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Speaker 1: but it's like I feel less less than satisfied even

612
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Speaker 1: though they got to the finish line. Pacers got their big,

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Speaker 1: big points from McConnell. And I got to imagine anybody

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Speaker 1: who was a casual observer that came in, you know,

615
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Speaker 1: to get it to that sixteen or eighteen million threshold

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Speaker 1: at the high end for viewing, you're probably cheering for

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Speaker 1: Matherin and McConnell. Right. Mcconald's like a one man gang. Now,

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Speaker 1: one thing they couldn't do without Halliburton is like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: nobody distribute the ball right near right leads with six

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Speaker 1: right And that's not TJ mcconnald's thing. He is kind

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Speaker 1: of a drive and dish guy. But he's not someone

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Speaker 1: that's going or set up with a first pass at

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Speaker 1: great entry pass. But he's not someone that's gonna spread

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Speaker 1: the floor. And because you.

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Speaker 4: Don't have to worry about you don't have to roll

626
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Speaker 4: defenders to him because it's TJ McConnell.

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Speaker 1: And he's just gonna go off to dribble and create

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Speaker 1: and make his own shot, Like how many times is

629
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Speaker 1: he going? He's like, what's he? He made the shot?

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Speaker 1: All right? He goes in amongst the trees and hits

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Speaker 1: a layup. This is where you're looking at chet Holm

632
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Speaker 1: going what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: How's that guy scoring the ball on you? On there?

635
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Speaker 1: And I thought that the moment after the game, and

636
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Speaker 1: I know it was much publicized the way that Tyreus

637
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Speaker 1: Halliburton was meeting the teammates and in the embrace he

638
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Speaker 1: and McConnell where they they got too close with the

639
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: camera and they shoot them away. But just the emotion

640
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Speaker 1: of it, and can't just you can't help but feel

641
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Speaker 1: for for that run, and you would have liked to

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Speaker 1: see it play straight. But I like the fact that

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Speaker 1: Indiana didn't quit. If anything you saw, OKC might have

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Speaker 1: been more shell shot at Halliburton's departure than the Pacers were,

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Speaker 1: because their whole mantra has been next guy up, and

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Speaker 1: they played with the bench with Matheren, with McConnell coming

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Speaker 1: up as big as they did at least gave us

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Speaker 1: to where it was never an easy and comfortable run

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Speaker 1: for the Thunder as you might i'd have expected it to.

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Speaker 1: So while you didn't get the runaway victory, they get

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Speaker 1: the parade exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios,

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Speaker 1: Time how to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world of sports from special delivery Steve de Sager, who

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Speaker 1: has everything in Major League Baseball tonight, except there were

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Speaker 1: no games in New York, so you can start outside

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Speaker 1: of there. Well, one team showed up in New York tonight.

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Speaker 6: Everything is final because the Padres have just lost at

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Speaker 6: home ten to six to Washington.

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Speaker 1: You may recall that at.

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Speaker 6: One point Juan Soto was on the Padres and when

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Speaker 6: they acquired him from Washington three years ago. The Padres

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Speaker 6: gave the National six players, including pitcher Mackenzie Gore, infielder c. J. Abrams,

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Speaker 6: and an outfielder who starred tonight in San Diego. James

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Speaker 6: Wood had three hits, three runs, scored four RBIs for

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Speaker 6: the Nats, including a home run.

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Speaker 1: James Woods the action just one of him.

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Speaker 6: He's singular twenty two home runs for Wood sixty one

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Speaker 6: RBIs in this season. Former Padres draft choice, by the way.

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Speaker 6: The Angels beat Boston nine to five with four runs

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Speaker 6: in the bottom of the eighth, but Angel closer Kenley

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Speaker 6: Jansend left in the ninth inning with an apparent shoulder injury.

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Speaker 6: Great stat from the Elias Sports folks at the Angels

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Speaker 6: tonight are the first team since nineteen ninety one to

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Speaker 6: use eight of their own first rounders in a game.

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Speaker 6: Walker Buehler was the Boston starting pitcher. The ex Dodger

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Speaker 6: allowed five runs in the first, including a couple bases

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Speaker 6: loaded walks and a bassis loaded hit batter. He lasted

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Speaker 6: four innings seven walks, did not get a decision. Arizona's

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Speaker 6: Corbyn Carroll, star outfielder was out again tonight for their

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Speaker 6: ten to nothing win at the White Sox. Bruceed hand

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Speaker 6: has been the problem, they say, missing a fifth straight game.

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Speaker 6: MLB Network says tonight it's a fractured wrist and he's

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Speaker 6: due to go on the injured list for the Diamondbacks

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Speaker 6: and Arizona slugger a Uhenneo Suarez left tonight's game hit

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Speaker 6: by a pitch on the hand. X rays were negative, however,

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Speaker 6: He one National League Player of the Week for a

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Speaker 6: third time this year. The AL Player of the Week

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Speaker 6: is the Mariners Col Rally, who homered his thirty second

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Speaker 6: home run of the season Seattle one at Minnesota eleven

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Speaker 6: to two. Rally has hit six home runs in his

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Speaker 6: last six games. Pittsburgh's Nick Gonzalez went five for five

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Speaker 6: and a five to four win at Milwaukee Saint Louis

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Speaker 6: over the rival Cubs eight to two, and it was

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Speaker 6: Atlanta beating the Mets, Yes three to two the final

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Speaker 6: in New York. The Mets have lost nine to ten.

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Speaker 6: The Idol Phillies are first in the NL East, game

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Speaker 6: and a half over the Mets. The Mets sent luis

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Speaker 6: An Hillecunya to triple A today joining catcher Francisco Alvarez,

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Speaker 6: who went to Triple A.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, Baltimore shout.

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Speaker 6: Out Texas six to nothing, Jackson Holliday with three hits,

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Speaker 6: four RBIs os. Infielder Jordan Westbroog still out with a

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Speaker 6: sprain finger. Pacers guard Tyrese Haliburton had surgery tonight for

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Speaker 6: his torn achilles. He could miss next season. The Celtics

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Speaker 6: traded guard Drew Holliday to Portland for Anthony Simons, who

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Speaker 6: has an expiring contract, and two second rounders WNBA off tonight.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Yes, we had the Kevin Durant trade yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Another big deal has gone down. Is one title contender

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Speaker 1: saying maybe we're waving the white flag on next year already.

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Speaker 4: That's next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: It's never a bad time for Shaboozie Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: So we've had all of like eight hours to celebrate

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City thunder championhip. Congratulations. Now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: trades and getting ready for the draft and two nights,

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Speaker 1: two nights Wednesday, starter, Remember two nights because we needed

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Speaker 1: to have that second night showing of Brownie James.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's gonna get drafted again. He's getting drafted again.

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Speaker 4: That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: So, uh did he up his drafts from last year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna go early in the second round. The Celtics

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Speaker 1: are trading Drew Holliday to the Blazers for Anthony Simons

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Speaker 1: and two second round picks.

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Speaker 4: Shamsterrani are reporting this earlier tonight. Now.

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Speaker 1: The plan right now, according to multiple reports, is for

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Speaker 1: the Blazers to keep Drew Holliday, who's thirty five and

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Speaker 1: signed that big three year, one hundred and five million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract with the Celtics, and try to compete in

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Speaker 1: the West. Okay, great, anytime a franchise it's way off

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Speaker 1: the beaten path. Hey, we're gonna do this and compete. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I want to compete to get back to the ten.

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Speaker 1: But or try.

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Speaker 4: This tells you that and this is tough.

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Speaker 1: This tells you that the Celtics have realized we need

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Speaker 1: to rebuild, not rebuild, not suddenly get rid of everybody,

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Speaker 1: but we need to retool and rebuild because we're already

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Speaker 1: spending next season mostly without Jason Tatum. You had the

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Speaker 1: torn achilles during the series against the Knicks, which seems

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Speaker 1: like it was like eight months ago, because you know

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Speaker 1: that's how long the season is. And now they realize, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get we won the title, we didn't get

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Speaker 1: out of the second round, and our best player is

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Speaker 1: going to be out most of the year. Why are

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Speaker 1: we paying Drew Holliday this kind of money?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: So, which again, uh, you know, this is the Celtics saying,

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Speaker 4: all right, is it really worth it to keep Drew

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Speaker 4: Holliday around? We don't know if we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna even be a title contender next year. Then we're

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Speaker 1: getting to another year. No, let's go get some offense

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Speaker 1: and every Simons could play a little bit, right, scores

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Speaker 1: twenty a game, he's a twenty a game, he's ten

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Speaker 1: years younger, he's a thirty point shooter, all that, and

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Speaker 1: it gets done, and it gets them almost twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars under that second apron. Yeah, and look and the

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Speaker 1: Blazers were actually pretty good down down the stretch last

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Speaker 1: half of the year. They played much better, so I again,

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Speaker 1: and they have a young core, so I understand what's

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Speaker 1: going on there. But the Celtics, really, okay, this is

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Speaker 1: the begin You're gonna see some moves. I'll be surprised

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Speaker 1: if you saw Porzingis getting moved. And you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: some other things happening this offseason because the Celtics, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's time to We won, right, we won the title,

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Speaker 1: but now things happened, and Tatum getting hurt is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the domino that starts all of this. So now

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Speaker 1: this isn't the first trade you're gonna see. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: see the Celtics try to get younger. They're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to keep all of their guys. How are

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Speaker 1: we gonna compete? We need some off we need we

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Speaker 1: have a whole in our offense right now without Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 1: So here Simon's in theory to come in and pick

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Speaker 1: up some of that slot.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The best thing to do, hey, when you're missing offense,

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Speaker 1: bringing a shooting guard, a small forward, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you have. So this is gonna be This is a

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Speaker 1: good move for the Celtics. I really like it. I

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Speaker 1: mean I like it more for the Celtics, honestly than

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Speaker 1: I do for the Blazers, even though the Blazers are

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Speaker 1: going to hey, maybe we're gonna try to win now

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But for the Celtics, it's okay. We

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Speaker 1: got rid of a big contract, we got younger, we

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Speaker 1: got some offense. We've got a guy that's gonna hit

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Speaker 1: some threes. So yeah, I mean, this is a really

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Speaker 1: good move for the Celtics. But this is also what

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Speaker 1: you have come to enjoy and love about the Celtics

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, This big championship corps. This

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: is now getting broken up well, and you're also looking

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Speaker 1: at a retool on the fly, Leaner, meaner, younger, take

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Speaker 1: some of the high salary out. If you get rid

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Speaker 1: of Porzingis, bring back a couple of bodies, go back

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Speaker 1: to you know, a deeper rotation. The East is a mess.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it a lot, right Orlando, retooling a

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Speaker 1: bit and bringing in Desmond Baine is actually a big

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Speaker 1: winning move potentially right now. As we talked about go

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Speaker 1: find the podcast, as we broke down that deal when

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Speaker 1: he showed up in Orlando because of all the injuries

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Speaker 1: and all the uncertainty from your would be contenders, even

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Speaker 1: your Nicks, what the next iteration of their squad looks like.

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Speaker 1: Still waiting on a coach, Still still waiting on a coach.

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Speaker 1: But there are right now one of the favorites to

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Speaker 1: win the NBA title in early odds released. So you're

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Speaker 1: looking at the opportunity with one or two moves in

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, you can be a contender and be

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Speaker 1: up there fighting with Cleveland for a top seed just

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Speaker 1: that fast. So this move, I think is a good spot.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's a starting point. We've been waiting to

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Speaker 1: see what the Celtics look like for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a completely different roster by time

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Speaker 1: we're done. Yeah, I mean, and look then that's just

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Speaker 1: the way it goes, right. It's sad because you think, well,

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Speaker 1: the Celtics lose, all right, but they just want to not.

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Speaker 1: But this is how fast windows close last year with

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Speaker 1: teams right even before last year though, there were a

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Speaker 1: lot of rumors in conjecture and speculation. All right, you're

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Speaker 1: just celebrating winning a title, but that they wouldn't bring

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Speaker 1: back the core that they had even last year, again

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Speaker 1: owing to financial constraints. So now you're a year removed

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Speaker 1: and notatum. Not only do you still have the money

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Speaker 1: part to work out, you still want to be competitive.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to just punt. So this is first

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Speaker 1: downmano to fall. Yeah, I mean, look, sometimes teams are

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Speaker 1: teams are going to find their way in this offseason,

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Speaker 1: the ones dealing with with bad injuries, they're caught halfway

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Speaker 1: between do we do we just forget it and and

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Speaker 1: and play for the year after, do we say screw

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Speaker 1: it and go for it? Do we try to go

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Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle. And you're talking about the Pacers

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Speaker 1: are gonna do this, and the Bucks are gonna do this,

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Speaker 1: and now Celtics are doing it. Like there's teams that's okay.

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Speaker 1: What are we absolutely know where we are in the draft?

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Speaker 1: Isn't a day okay, we don't know. Now we're now

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Speaker 1: we're already looking ahead. What's the twenty twenty sixth draft

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Speaker 1: look like? Mm hmm, I mean it's it's uh. It

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Speaker 1: sometimes gets it gets late early, right, big Yogi better

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Speaker 1: than gets l and it got late for the Celtics early,

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Speaker 1: and now this team is gonna be unrecognizable when you

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Speaker 1: get into next season. Exit out about a Fresca exit

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Speaker 1: Swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmonou.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, we get back into a big shocking.

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Speaker 1: Story that just broke a little bit ago about Game

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Speaker 1: seven of the NBA Finals. Keep it here, Jason and

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Speaker 1: Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Jason Haliburn pomped his Achille sign now