1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Look to the folks at Farm Bureau Health Plans when 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: you need someone who knows the healthcare coverage game plan. 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee In's for seventy five years. Today 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: the OTP remains on the road. We welcome the ot 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: people to Western Kentucky University and the beautiful Hardball Club 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: Mike Keith amy Wells coach Dave McGinnis, and we welcome 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Todd Stewart, Western Kentucky's Director of Athletics, finishing his tenth year. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: Coach Mac what about that? Give me something there, He's 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: been the ad here for ten years. That's a plus. 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Anytime you can make it double digits in the football 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: world or in the athletic world, God bless you, it 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: means you can fool a lot of people. I guess 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: this is starting my thirty sixth year in the NFL, 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: so I fooled everybody for three decades. So you're good, Todd. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: It is so great to have here. But we have 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: to ask, you know where the Titans and you have 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: us in the hardball club. Yes, Now this is related 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: to the hardball of the Baltimore Ravens. But it's not 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: that Hardball, right, correct, that's his father. Okay, well, that's 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: won the national championship here. Well, he actually deserves an 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: enormous credit for us even being here in the form 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: that we're here today. He was our head coach from 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine to two thousand and two, and the 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: program early in his tenure went through significant budget cuts. 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: In fact, there was a time when it was leaning 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: towards being canceled, and he agreed to sustain the program 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: with major budget cuts and so led it through some 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: very very challenging times and obviously got it going again. 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: And in the final year that he coached was the 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and two season when we won the one 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: double A national championship which is now referred to as 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the Football Championship Subdivision the FCS sub Division. But his 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: last year was a national championship year, which is the 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: only team national championship in Western Kentucky history. Yeah. Well, 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the Harball family I'm very well acquainted with, very close 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: to I was with the Bears and Mike Dickon when 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: we drafted Jim. I had John up when he was 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: still coaching in college. Do a lot of our clinics, 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: and so I know Jack very very well, and it's 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: a football family, and you're right, he was very very 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: successful here, and this is nice. If he was responsible 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: for some of this, then this is really nice. But 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: I know the Hardball family very well. It's ironic. I mean, 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: long story short, but just to give you an example 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: of how lean it was then, I was actually with 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts when Jim Harball is our quarterback. He 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: joined the Colts after he was with the Bears, and 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: got to know Jim really well. And I remember this 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: is a true story. Jim would go through the Colts 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: locker room and had cardboard boxes and would ask our 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: players to put any thing that they didn't need in 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the box, whether it was receivers, gloves, shoes, practice helmets, 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: shoulder pads, jerseys, really any item of apparel that they 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: had that they didn't need to put in those cardboard boxes, 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: and he would mail them down here. I mean, that's 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: really how lean the program was in the early to 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: mid nineties here. And I never knew that I would 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: ever be here, but you know, to now be here 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: as the athletic director and see how far it's come 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: is great to see because I know, you know, it 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: was really in a tough stretch there for a while. 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Didn't Jim come down here to coach with his dad 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: for a little while? Didn't He didn't do that while 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: he was still playing. He did. He passed the Ncway 66 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: tests so that he could recruit, and then he became 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: one of the assistants during the offseason and recruited on 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: behalf of his father. There you go, and you work 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: for John Hardball with the Ravens, didn't you. I did 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: work for John Harball with the Ravens, so we've all 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: got a Ravens connection here, and also spent some time 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: with Colts. So yeah, and I've lost to him a bunch, 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: so beating him some too, and beating him some too. 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: How many young people go to Western Kentucky these days? 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: This school has continued to just blow up. Well, it's 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: really growing. It depends on how you measure it. If 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: you count everybody who takes a class in any form, 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: and online classes are obviously popular everywhere. Now it's well 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: over twenty thousand here in campus. You know, we have 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: six thousand students that live in the dormitories on campus 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: and in another six to seven thousand that live in 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: apartments just off campus. So we really have about thirteen 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: thousand full time students here in Bowling Green on a 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: daily basis, and there's still very much of a Tennessee 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee presence here. You have strong tentacles into Middle Tennessee. 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: We do. I mean, the two largest alumni bases that 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: we have are Nashville and Louisville, So we have a 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: heavy population in Nashville. We have a lot of students 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: from Nashville Rutherford County that come to Western Kentucky and 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: that seems to grow by the year. Also. Wow, now 91 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: we have to run this back a little bit because 92 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: there's also a connection between the two of you. Mike, 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Keith and Todd worked together. Correct, Todd, you were a 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: graduate assistant, you Mike were a student. So what can 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: you tell us about Mike? This is what I want. 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: I want to hear all the best story. This is 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: a safe space. Now, this is a true story. It's 98 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a good story. You know. I wish I could make 99 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: some news here and make fun of him or something 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: like that, but this is the honest truth. I mean, 101 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: he was with the Vall Network and I was a 102 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: graduate assistance at Tennessee, and I remember it was very 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: early on when I was there, and we were at 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: practice together, at football practice together, and this would have 105 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: been the nineteen eighty nine football season, and I remember 106 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: he asked me a couple of questions about a couple 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: of players that I must say, I've only been down 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: there for a month and I didn't have an idea 109 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: of who they were. You know, you have over a 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: hundred players. What impressed me about mine, I'm not just 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: saying this. What impressed me about Mike was he knew 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: the whole roster. He knew every player, He knew every 113 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: number of every player, whether they were going to red shirt, 114 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: whether they were going to start. I'm not talking about 115 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: the guys. They were all conference type guys. They were everybody. 116 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: And so I'm standing there next to Mike and I'm like, 117 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I've got to do my homework. If I'm going to 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: be working on behalf of the athletic department and working 119 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: with the media at our practices, i better know everybody 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: on this roster like Mike does. So he sort of 121 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: set the tone there early on for me. Well, I 122 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: think Amy can tell you this with Titans radio that 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: hadn't changed. Yeah, I was gonna say, he's been like 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: this forever. It sounds what happens when you have no 125 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: social life. It sounds like a friend. Todd was great, 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: and I wasn't surprised that Todd went on and did well. 127 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: He mentioned that he left Tennessee when he finished his 128 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: masters and went to the Colts, and you were there 129 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: for nine years. I think it's so right before he leaves. 130 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Todd ruined one of my days. Why well, we had 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: a situation that came up in the Jackson, Tennessee area 132 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: where they had had tornadoes. And it was a really 133 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: unusual situation because I think they'd happened in like the winter. 134 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: They had happened in the winter, and you know, usually 135 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: don't have tornadoes in the winter. And so we had 136 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: just switched from the Oilers to the Titans, and we 137 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: had not played a game as the Titans yet, so 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: we're thinking what can we do to help Jackson, Tennessee 139 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: in a big hurry. So what we did is we 140 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: took every coat that had oilers on it because people 141 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: had lost everything down there. Man, it's winter, you need 142 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: a coat, sure, So we piled coats into the back 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: of my sedan to where I couldn't see out of 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: the back windows, and I drove the coats down to 145 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Jackson and the people there were very appreciative. Next day, 146 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Todd Stewart shows up with Peyton Manning and they hand 147 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: him a check. So who got all the publicity? Yeah, 148 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: here's what they said. They're there with the big check, 149 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: presenting the big check. And I'm looking at us, and 150 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: there's Peyton Manning, who I know, And there's Todd Stewart, 151 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: who I really know. How about this? This is great. 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I've driven the coats down there, dropped the coats off, 153 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: turned around, come back, you know, trying to be a 154 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: lot of help. And he's there and all the pictures 155 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and at the press conference they go, oh and by 156 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the way, thanks to the oilers for the coats, Todd. Thanks, 157 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: thanks Todd. Yeah, that was actually that came together really quick. 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Jim Mersey was the owner of the Colts then, and 159 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: it was one of the neat things I got to 160 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: be a part of. I flew down on his plane. 161 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: It was just me the only time in my driving 162 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: down to Sedan, the only time in my life I'll 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: ever be on a private plane by myself and flew 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: from Indianapolis to Chattanooga, and actually we picked Payton up 165 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: in Chattanooga because his now wife, Ashley was in Chattanooga, right, 166 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: and so we flew to Chattanooga and pick Peyton up 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: in Chattanooga, and then he and I flew on the 168 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Jackson and really spent the day there. Had delivered things, 169 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: and he was phenomenal. I mean, we went to the 170 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: hospitals where there were some children there that were injured, 171 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: some of them and actually lost their parents, and he 172 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: went in and didn't just do the photo op, I 173 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: mean went in there and visited with them, and you know, 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: it was it was just neat to be a fly 175 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: on the wall really and that and just seeing how 176 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: he interacted with those families. But hopefully, I know with 177 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: what you all did and what we did that, you know, 178 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: I think we made a different a different And that 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: was what I said, you know, seriousness to the people 180 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: back in our office. I said, Hey, for him to 181 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: be what he was at that point, just coming off 182 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: his rookie year and the folk key row that he 183 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: had become, I mean, basically like Davy Crockett after coming 184 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: back for his senior year and what he meant to people, 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: not only the money, but drawing attention to that situation, 186 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: which was so dire, was such a wonderful thing for 187 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: you guys to do. And I know spending your are 188 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: spending his rookie year with him, that must have blown 189 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: you away. It was neat. I mean it was really neat. 190 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: It was my last year with the coltson it was 191 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: his first year. So from a win lost adpoint, I 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: get the bad Timing Award because I leave Indianapolis to 193 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: go to Cleveland where we really didn't win a lot, 194 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: and then the Colts really took off in one under Peyton. 195 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: But because I had been at Tennessee and knew bud 196 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Ford really well, who Peyton obviously trusted, I was able 197 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: to really handle most of Peyton's media allegations his rookie 198 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: year with the Colts, and so we got to know 199 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: each other really well. And he was an easy person 200 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: to handle because he's he's like he is now. I mean, 201 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: it was almost like he was a well programmed CD. 202 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: There'd be about ten or twelve answers that he would 203 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: give and it really didn't matter what the question was 204 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: that was going to be the answer that he would, 205 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: but he was always on message. But he was also informative. 206 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean he would give good answers. It wasn't just 207 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, one sentence cliches. But he was just so 208 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: well prepared as a rookie. I mean, he was more 209 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: prepared than a lot of veterans are just I think 210 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: growing up with the Manning last name and just living 211 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: life in the fish bowl. And obviously at Tennessee, Tennessee 212 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: had more daily media coverage than Indianapolis Colts did. I 213 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: mean it was incredible. I mean the Colts would have 214 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: two or three beat writers at practice, you know when 215 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Peyton's rookie year, whereas Tennessee would have twelve to fifteen probably, 216 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: And so he was just enormously prepared when he got 217 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: to the Colts, and certainly his career speaks for itself. 218 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: What was it like taking over the Browns as an 219 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: expansion team when they came back into the NFL in 220 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: ninety nine, Well, it was exhilarating on one hand because 221 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: they went three years without an NFL team, so then 222 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: when they got one, there was an unbelievable amount of excitement. 223 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: It was the hardest time of my entire career, because 224 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: as you learned firsthand for everybody who went through that, 225 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: when you're an expansion team, you start from scratch, you know. 226 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: And even though the name stayed and the colors in 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: the history and the tradition state, I mean, everything else 228 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: was knew. All the players renew, all the coaches renew, 229 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: and so we were starting from scratch, and it was funny. 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: The excitement was just incredible among our fans, and we 231 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: wrote that we didn't want to settle that down at all. 232 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: But I just remember we beat the Dallas Cowboys that 233 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: year in the Hall of Fame game was the first 234 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: preseason game, but they did not play Troy Aakman, Michael Irvin, 235 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: or Emmett Smith in the game, and we beat them. 236 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: And I remember the next day, our fans are switchboard 237 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: lining up people calling and wondering what would be the 238 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: process for ordering playoff tickets. And you know, we knew 239 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: there was no way this expansion team is going into 240 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But that's just kind of how separated perception 241 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: and reality were at the time, and that continued all 242 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: through the entire training camp. In the preseason. There was 243 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: just like this frenzy of a team almost like coming 244 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: off a Super Bowl championship. I mean, we literally had 245 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: television production trucks from Youngstown and Erie and Toledo and 246 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Columbus coming every day to training camp and going live 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: just covering the team. Well, then we finally played a game. 248 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: We played the Pittsburgh Steelers the first game of the 249 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: regular season, lost forty three to nothing, and that sort 250 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: of broad reality back to it. It was a crazy 251 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: time early on, but it was a great thing to 252 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: be a part of it. I will still say, though, 253 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: and you remember this coach because you play Debtmer the 254 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: first game right quarterback memory, and the story was Chris 255 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Palmer was going to play him all year, all year, 256 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: all year, lose the first game and get hammered, and 257 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: the next week Tim Couch starts at Nashville. I will 258 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: always wonder if you'd been able to hold Tim Couch 259 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: off for that whole year, what his career might have 260 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: been like. He was put in such a tough situation. 261 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: It was because, I mean, it was an expansion team. 262 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: He did not have the supporting cast, you know, working 263 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning in nineteen ninety eight and then working 264 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: with Tim Couch in nineteen ninety nine. A lot of 265 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland media would say, hey, what's what's the difference, And 266 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's an enormous difference. I mean, Peyton Manning's 267 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: rookie year, he's handing off the Marshall Falk and he's 268 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 1: throwing to Marvin Harrison. Tim didn't have anywhere near that 269 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: kind of supporting cast, and I think he got sacked 270 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: close to sixty times that year, and it was really 271 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: it was almost like Tiger Woods just finishing the master. 272 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Tim Couch finishing the nineteen ninety nine season 273 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: in and of itself spoke to his toughness, because it 274 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: would have been probably better for him to not have 275 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: played early on, and that was the plan. And then 276 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: I think the first game got so out of hand 277 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: that our head coached, Chris Palmer, just felt, why have 278 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: him waste this year watching, Let's just get him in 279 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: there and let him learn. I don't know, you could 280 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: You could argue both ways whether it was the right 281 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: move or not, but certainly it threw him into the 282 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: fire right from the start. It had been better to 283 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: keep Tie in there because he could handle it. He 284 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: could handle that. Tim Couch, as he said, was really 285 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: in an untenable situation then and then it just went 286 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: from not real good to really not good, you know, 287 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: for quite a while. But that's that's the choice that 288 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: Chris maiden, so so he went with it. But I 289 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: really firmly believe that Tim Couch's career would have probably 290 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: gone on a better track had he been able to 291 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: sit for a minute. Well and you know, I mean 292 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: he just he got physically beat up, and that affects 293 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: your confidence, and I think that affects your decision making. 294 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: And you know, when you're constantly only having two and 295 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: three seconds to throw, I think that speed you up 296 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: in a way that may not be good. And it 297 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: just it was a very challenging year. Well there's another 298 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: good example of it, and then we'll get on. But 299 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: I coached the Senior Bowl one year. I had the 300 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: South team and Mike Holmgren had the North team, and 301 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: I had David Carr, you know, was my quarterback in 302 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Courts of Texans. We're starting as an expansion team, and 303 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I met with those guys you know, 304 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: for quite a while asking me all about him. I said, 305 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: he's really good, and they took him and started him 306 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: and hit the same thing happened to him and probably 307 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: derailed his career because the sixty sack number was right 308 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: about where he was too. You gotta let these guys 309 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: have a chance to soak a little bit because this 310 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: is a hard league. Let's talk about, speaking of football. 311 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: What kind of success you guys have had in football 312 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: here since you've been the ad Coach Mack was talking 313 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: on the way up about all your current NFL players, 314 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: and you're gonna put some more into the draft this year. 315 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy is one at quarterback, D'Angelo malone outside linebacker. 316 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: I know there are others. Why all the success in 317 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: football since you've been here? What do you sort of 318 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: credit to that kind of success? Our people? Really? I 319 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: know it sounds simple, but we've just been fortunate that 320 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: we've had outstanding head coaches who have had a very 321 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: good coaching staff around them, who've recruited true student athletes, 322 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: who have been very focused on getting better as football players, 323 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: but making good decisions off the field as well. And 324 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: it's been a nice run. I mean, we've been to 325 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: a bowl game eight to the last ten years. We've 326 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: actually want it. We're not just about going to a 327 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: bowl game, we're about winning the bowl game. We won 328 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: it five of those years, including last year, blew out 329 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: a very good app State team in the Boca Ratone Bowl. 330 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: And you know, you referenced Bailey Zappy last year. It's incredible. 331 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: You think about the history of college football, and that's 332 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: a lot of great teams and a lot of great 333 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: players in the history of college football. Nobody's thrown for 334 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: more touchdowns and yards in a single season than Bailey 335 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Zappy ard quarterback hit last year, he broke Joe Burrows 336 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: record by throwing sixty two touchdown passes and he also 337 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: threw for five thousand, nine hundred and sixty seven yards. 338 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: And then we had a receiver, Jared Stearns, who had 339 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the third most receptions and the fifth most receiving yards 340 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: in a single season. So made a little bit of 341 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: history last year and won a lot of games in 342 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: the process, and that was a lot of fun. You 343 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: know his eyes with the Rams, we drafted Tyler Higbee. 344 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, I was there, and of course he's still 345 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: there playing for the Rams. I just made a list 346 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: of some of your guys that are current in the league. 347 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: Dion Yeller, the tight end that's the Cardinals, Devon Keith 348 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: Free safety at the Chiefs. You know who's done a 349 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: nice job. Of course, I mentioned Tyler Jordan Meredith, the 350 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: guard from the Raiders. I mean he's still active. Forrest 351 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: lamp another good guard from the Saints. George George George 352 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: fant is there, the offensive tackle with the Jets. Mike White, 353 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback, backup quarterback, just signed a new deal, just 354 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: signed a new deal at the Jets. Josie Igmanhani, the 355 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: linebacker from the Seahawks, got drafted by the Bears and 356 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: then how he just went with the Seahawks. So you 357 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: guys are putting some players in the league. Well, I 358 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you pointing that out Pathmack, And I think I 359 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: was talking to Mike earlier. You know, I do think 360 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: what we're proud of is we really feel like we're 361 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: nationally relevant with our football program because of the fact 362 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: that we are going to bowl games, we're winning bowl games. 363 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: We have players that are drafted, we have players that 364 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: are making NFL teams. You know, we've been on television 365 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: a lot, and nothing shes of brighter light on a 366 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: university than an athletics program does. And so the success 367 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: of our football program. I think is it's obviously it's 368 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: been great for football, it's been great for WKU athletics, 369 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: but I think it's shined a light on our university 370 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: and brought attention to Western Kentucky University in a way 371 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: that really nothing else on this campus can thirty five 372 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: conference championships in a variety of sports since twenty fourteen, 373 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: that's the most in Conference USA during that period of time. 374 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: Winning is a great marketing tool. Oh, it is. I 375 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: mean it truly is. I mean it validates I think 376 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that you have the right people when you're doing the 377 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: right thing. And you know what's nice about the thirty 378 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: five championships, Like you said, Mike, it is the most 379 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: in Conference USA since the time we've been in it, 380 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: but it's been won by twelve different sport programs. Sure, 381 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: so it's an across the board success that a lot 382 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: of people played a role in. And you know, there's 383 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: always challenges in sports. I mean every day we all 384 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: have challenges, but we we always say we'd rather have 385 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: the challenges that come with winning and the challenges that 386 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: come with losing. So hopefully we can keep that going. 387 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: I like that, really proud of you touch Stewart. Knowing 388 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: you're for over thirty years, it's hard to believe, but guy, 389 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: you have you have done well here. This is a 390 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: great place. It really is and really cool. I'm gonna 391 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: tell you. Bowling Green and just this whole general vicinity 392 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: in western Kentucky has been so good to the Tennessee 393 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Titans since the start. This may not be in the 394 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: same state technically, but this is Titans country and we're 395 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: very appreciative well vice versas. We have a lot of 396 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: fans and a lot of season ticket holders that are 397 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: huge fans of the Titans and huge season ticket holders, 398 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of people that's been their weekend. 399 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: They come here on Saturday and they go to Nashville 400 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday or obviously if you're on the road, they 401 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: watching him on Sunday. But there's there's a lot of 402 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: cross pollination there and that's that's great for us. Anytime 403 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: we can be associated with the Tennessee Titans, that's a 404 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: good thing. Maybe just maybe a couple more Hilltoppers on 405 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: the roster hopefully, so that would be great. Dodg, We're 406 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna let you go visit. I guess you can visit 407 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: with Big Red. Big Red is actually here. I cannot 408 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: believe that. I'm so excited and asked Todds you can 409 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: visit with Big Red anti rack. That would be, that 410 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: would be. That's a photo right there. That is a photo. 411 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: That's a photo right there. The athletic director here at 412 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky, Todd Stewart, thanks for hosting us. We appreciate it. 413 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, So Todd Stewart is going to depart, 414 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: and we're going to do a quick review of the 415 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: OTP from Martin's Barbecue, which was stop number two. I 416 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: guess point one is we ate rather well? Oh my gosh. 417 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: I ate, and ate, and ate, and ate, and eight 418 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: and then home. We highly recommend Martin's Barbecue. We reviewed 419 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen wide receivers and twelve tight ends from the 420 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: coach Mac one fifty. Rhett guesses that eight wide receivers 421 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: go in the first round in two weeks. Coach Max 422 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: C six, Arkansas's Treylan Burks is a favorite of our 423 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: entire group. True yes, Coach Mac believes Western Michigan sky 424 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Moore could make an immediate impact on his team. There's 425 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: a lot of love for Tennessee's Valis Jones, especially if 426 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: he is available in day three. Moving to tight ends, 427 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: both Red and Coach mac Field Colorado States Trey McBride 428 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: is the top tight end on the board, but Greg 429 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Dulsich from UCLA is not far behind. San Diego States 430 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger is another really well liked tight end prospect, 431 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: especially for his blocking. Coach Mac is interested to see 432 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolinas Isaiah Likely and what he can be as 433 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: a receiver in the NFL. Coach Mac also interested to 434 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: see six seven Virginia product Jelaney Woods. The group agrees 435 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: that if you want to wait until day three to 436 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: take a tight end, you will still get a good 437 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: one that can help. Quick review. Did I hit everything? Yeah? 438 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: The only thing that you left out was Coach Mac 439 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: comparing all of the receivers in the draft two different 440 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: types of barbecue. I really enjoyed that analogy. It worked, 441 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: and I think we should use it more often. Work. Well, 442 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. All right, So we're 443 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: gonna move on to offensive tackles in the Coach Mack 444 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: one fifty. He's got sixteen on the list. Yes, Amy, 445 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: do you want to share them? Let me run through 446 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: this list. Do you have all sixteen potentially? And I 447 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: think so. I tried to get all sixteen this time. Good. 448 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start with Evan Neil from Alabama. He 449 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: is on this list. Ikey Ekwano is on the list, 450 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Charles Cross, Trevor Penning, Tyler Smith, Daniel Fala See I 451 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: got pretty close to that time. Sayer Munford from Ohio 452 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: State is on this list. Bernard Riemann, Nicholas Petite freer Fer. 453 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it's French. I'm not French, lou Getticky get Getticky, 454 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: Darien Kinnard, Max Mitchell, Abraham Lucas, Matt will let's go, 455 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: Rashid Walker and Caleb Jones coach Mac. There's a top 456 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: four there, Yes, there are. Amy Wells. You did a 457 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: nice job. Thank you. I appreciate your support. Neil, Aquanu, 458 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: Cross and Penning. Are all of those guys gone in 459 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the top twenty? Yes? Really? Yes? I mean this draft 460 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: is a flip completely from what last year's was. Last 461 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: year's it was quarterback heavy at the top, and then 462 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: you started working through your tackles and your edge rushers. 463 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: This draft will be edge rushers and offensive tackles, and 464 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: then you'll start working down through your quarterbacks. Those four 465 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: that you mentioned at Quando from NC State, Neil from Alabama, 466 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: Charles Cross from Mississippi State, and then Trevor Penning from 467 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. They've all got the requisite skills I think 468 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: to play left tackle in the National Football League, And 469 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: so those guys will be gone pretty quick. And to me, 470 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good group even down through it. 471 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: And I know that Mike's going to ask me about 472 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: some of these other guys, but even as you start 473 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: getting working through these guys, you're still gonna be able 474 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: to get some guys in the middle or the belly 475 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: of the draft, you know, which is the third round 476 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: through the fifth round that can help you. Well, forget Mike, 477 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: I want to talk about it. Okay, good, go ahead, 478 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: day you and I I've got our own podcast too, 479 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: right right, I'm just I'm in the groove. It's the 480 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: Titans Amy Coachmack Podcast. By the way, go ahead and 481 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: subscribe to that. We've got a million listeners right now. 482 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: You can be a million and about forty or fifty. 483 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, let's let's go it. Go Amy, So 484 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: who else do you think from this list? Could be 485 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: first round worthy. Well, Tyler Smith's right on the cusp. 486 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: He is right on the cusp from Tulsa. And again, 487 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: you start talking about first round and I know we're 488 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: just talking one position, but when you start adding all 489 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: the other positions into the rounds, then all of a sudden, 490 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: players when you're towards the bottom of the round, which 491 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: the Titans are, because they're a good football team. The 492 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: National Football League, if you're a good football team, you're 493 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: going to draft late in the draft. That's just the 494 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: way it works. It works in inverse order. If you're 495 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: a really bad football team, you're drafting early. So these 496 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: guys that are going to be gone early, we will 497 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: still have. And Tyler Smith, to me is a guy 498 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of sitting there that has kind of helped 499 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: himself in this post season process and pre draft process. 500 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: Who do you feel on this list is a true 501 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: left tackle or there are a couple of them one 502 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: I think I think all four of those guys that 503 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, Kuan who Kneel, Cross, and Trevor Penny 504 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: there are different types of tackles. They are different types 505 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: of tackles. They've all got different skill sets, but they 506 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: are different types of tackles, but I think they've all 507 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: got the capability to be able to play the left side. 508 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: And let me just say this about left and right side. 509 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: The delineation between those two has has really closed the 510 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: gap because you've got so much eleven personnel. Let's talk 511 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: a little ball here, y'all. It's one tight end, three wides, 512 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of your rushers now are coming from 513 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: the offensive right side because of where you're playing one 514 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: tight end, and so the gap between just delineating between 515 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: left and right tackle it's still there, but it's not 516 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: as wide a gap as it used to be. So 517 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: what skill set do you have to have to play 518 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: on the left side as opposed feet paying feet feet 519 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: Because the better rusher that you're against, the better feet 520 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: that you need to be able to counter act the 521 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: quick moves, the sudden moves, and also the counter moves 522 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: back inside. The right side has most teams are right 523 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: handed running the football the right side, especially now with 524 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: outside zones, you need your power tackle over there that 525 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: can move somebody off the edge, you know. But still 526 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: they're going to face really good rushers and defenses. Now, 527 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: I coach defense in this league, for thirty plus years. 528 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: You like to match up people, and if you've got 529 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: somebody that can flip from the other side and put 530 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: over there on, maybe not as good a pass protector 531 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: on passing downs every down in the National Football League. 532 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Now it's become a passing down right just because of 533 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: the way the game is going. So as I said, 534 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: that gap is closing a little bit. How many guys 535 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: on this list do you think may have had some 536 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: experience playing the tackle position but might actually be better 537 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: suited to be guard now, I think all these guys 538 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: we've talked about right now are tackles right now depend 539 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: on what team they go to. But when you look 540 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: at a player, let's talk about the top two, Ekwana 541 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: and Evan Neil. Those guys could move into a guard 542 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: their rookie year and perform very, very well. They'll probably 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: be going to be drafted to a place that needs tackles. 544 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: Charles Cross is a leaner guy. He will be outside 545 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: on the edge, you know. To begin with, I think 546 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: all of these guys are true tackles, the top ones 547 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: that we've just talked about. Is there a Day three 548 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: offensive tackle who you think has the most upside? So 549 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: you talk about day three. Let's talk about what we're 550 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: talking about. We're talking about day three. What are you 551 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: talking about? Just stop a minute, you and I. This 552 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: is how you and I get along all the time. 553 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: Day three talking about practice. Yeah, we're talking about practice. 554 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Day three means the fourth round. Okay, day three is 555 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: the fourth round because day ones first first round, second 556 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: day is two and three. We're talking about day three, 557 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: fourth round. Okay, here we go. All right, all right, 558 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's go with this. Two of the guys 559 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: that you just talked about, Nicholas Petit Frere from Ohio State, 560 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: and then Rashid Walker from Penn State. Those two guys, okay, 561 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: are sitting there. Those are kind of the guys next 562 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: in line, and I think those are possible bottom of 563 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: the third, top of the fourth round names that you. 564 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: I think we'll see them. All right, Let's move on 565 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: to guards. Mike, you read this list. I watched the 566 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: first whatever you say, the secondary. So the guards on 567 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: the coach mac one fifties got eleven guards on the list. 568 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: Kenyan Greene, Texas A and m Zion Johnson Boston College, 569 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Cole Strange, Chattanooga. Jamari Salier Georgia, ed Ingram LSU, Dylan 570 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: Param Memphis, Chason Hines, LSU, Justin Schaefer Georgia, Marquis Hayes Oklahoma, 571 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Josh Reevus Kansas State, Xavier Newman Johnson Baylor, Mike, you 572 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: did that really well, thanks coach. Who's plugging playing? Who's 573 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: somebody you take on April twenty eighth, April twenty ninth 574 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: and May. First they're a starter Zion Johnson Okay. And 575 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: then the Texas A and M player. Those are your 576 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: two right there that right now, plug and play. Let's go. 577 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: Put them in there at guard. You're good. Just sit 578 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: them in there and let's go. So like the tight 579 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: end situation, is this another group of guys that you 580 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: can maybe wait until later in the draft, say day three, 581 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: the fourth round to pick some guys, because there's a 582 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: lot of depths on this no, and it's a relevant question, 583 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: and you ask it very very well. I'll tell you 584 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: a guy that I really likes, ed Ingram from LSU. 585 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: Ed Ingram from LSU is a guy that I really 586 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: like sitting there on that third day. I mean, I 587 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: like what he does. Justin Shaffer from Georgia is another guy. 588 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Probably a fourth round player, depends on what you've got, 589 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: what you're looking at, and what happens with a draft 590 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: to a draft board, so that everybody understands you're not 591 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: just picking off on one side vertically. You're picking vertically 592 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: and horizontally across the board, comparing it now to the 593 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses of other players in the commensurate part 594 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: across the draft. Anytime you're about fifteen minutes out from 595 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: your pick, what you do is get a bullpen together 596 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: of players from all different positions and put them up 597 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: on the board. And so some of these names I'm 598 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: naming now will probably be there that will be in 599 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: the bullpen for somebody. What about guys on the guard 600 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: list who can potentially snap and who could move to center? 601 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: Anybody jump out to you on that list? Well, first 602 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: of all, you were down at the Senior Bowl, right 603 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: and they use Zion Johnson down That's all he did. 604 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: That's all he did down there, and he had not 605 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: done that. Could he do that? Absolutely? He could do that. 606 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: And you know what else he told me about not 607 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: to interrupting, he told me he said I really like 608 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: that because he said, I'm running the show and he 609 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: said as an offensive lineman. He said, it's a nice feeling. 610 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: Ben Jones talks about this. Yeah, And in talking with 611 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Tanner about Ben Jones, it's one of his favorite 612 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: things about his center and is one of the reasons 613 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: he's so glad ben Jones's back is if you've got 614 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: a guy who can really run the show up front, 615 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: it makes the job easy for everybody. Zion Johnson has 616 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: the right personality and the right brain and the right 617 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: talent to potentially be able to do it. Cole Strange 618 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: at Chattanooga did it at the Senior Bowl too, and 619 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: he struggled some, and Zion Johnson struggled some. But what 620 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: I liked about him coaches they wanted to do it. 621 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: They weren't afraid to fail. Yeah, And to me, you 622 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: bring up a great point. And you know, for our 623 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: listeners the OTP and for this crowd here, your center 624 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: is your second quarterback on the offense, because the most 625 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: important thing is identifying fronts, identifying protections. And once the 626 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: plays are check with me at the line of scrimmage, 627 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback and the center are both responsible for those 628 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes the center is only responsible for the check with 629 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: mes at the line of scrimmage. So those guys have 630 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: to be on top of their game mentally, and they 631 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: have to want to do it. That's a task that 632 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: you have to want to put on your shoulders to do. 633 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Cole Strange is a guy I think could move in there. 634 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: I think Param can move in there too. That's Rhett 635 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Brian's favorite guy. He loves Dylan Parry for a lot 636 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: of reasons. I'm sorry, the ever reliable Rhett Brian is 637 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: not here with us at Western Kentucky today for the OTP, 638 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: But one of the reasons is he didn't get to 639 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: talk about Dylan param who he thinks is a super 640 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: super value for somebody in the mid round. Well. And 641 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: the reason he thinks that is because the guy can 642 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: play both. And when you're only suiting up seven offensive 643 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: lineman mostly on your active roster on Sundays, you're gonna 644 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: have to have some people that can swing. You need 645 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: a swing tackle and you certainly need somebody that can 646 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: swing on that center guard triangle. All right, let's talk 647 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: centers on the coach Mack one fifty. You've got four 648 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: on the list. Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa, Luke Fortner, Kentucky Alec Lindstrom, 649 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: Boston College, cam Jerkins, Nebraska. There are a lot of 650 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: people who think Lenderbaum goes in the first round. Do 651 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: you agree? Yes, absolutely, Linderbaumb reminds me right now and again, 652 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: I've seen a few centers in my time in this league. 653 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: He reminds me of the center we had at the 654 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: Great Bears teams. I was on Jay Hilgenberg, another Iowa center. 655 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: It was a great center, wrestling background, and then a 656 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: lot a lot like Amy's center at the Colts Jeff Saturday. Yes, 657 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: was he really your son? No, he was before me, 658 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: and also I was in a quarterback so he wasn't 659 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: my center per set. All right. I want to talk 660 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: about lender bamb again for a second though, because he's 661 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: he's like six two two ninety. He's not the biggest 662 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: guy in the world, and that's fine. You don't care 663 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: for being for being a center, that's fine. Because he 664 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: can't play guard, you think, I don't think so. I 665 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: don't think he's a guard. You don't want to put 666 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: him in there over those you know, those big hogs 667 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: that are down there in the middle. But what he 668 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: can do is, especially if if somebody's going to run 669 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: a zone offense where the center has to make combination 670 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: blocks and then work up to the second level. He 671 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: can do that all day, and plus he can make 672 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: all of the calls. I like the player. So if 673 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: the Titans had not resigned Ben Jones, could you have 674 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: seen them taking lender Baum in the first round at 675 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: twenty six and just plugging him in as the starter. Yes, 676 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: I can't think he'd ever make it down there, but 677 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: yes I do, Yes, I do. Okay, So that's the 678 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: type of situations. Talking absolutely, I think I think this 679 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: guy is a bring him in and he's playing immediately, 680 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: all right. So the backward question from the one about 681 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: the guard snapping is do you think Fortner, Lenstrom or 682 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: Jurgens can play guard if needed? I think Jurgons might 683 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: be the one that possibly could. But all of these 684 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: guys are pretty much set ass centers, and I think 685 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: that's pretty unusual. Now here's the thing. If they go 686 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: to a team that they're not the starter, then they're 687 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to learn to swing a little bit 688 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: until they're the main guy. Okay, Jurgons, you know, I 689 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: just got through all of my write ups on him. 690 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: He had a really nice combine. You know, he's kind 691 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: of moving himself up into this process. But I think 692 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: there are enough guards in this draft right now. But again, 693 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: it goes to the point that I made about the 694 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: active roster. When you finally get your active roster pulled 695 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: down to what it's going to be during the season, 696 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: and then who's going to be up on Sunday, Somebody, 697 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: especially a young one coming in. It's gonna have to 698 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: be able to swing. All right. So let's review as 699 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: we've talked about the offensive line. Offensive tackle. You think 700 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: four go in the first twenty, maybe even in the 701 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: first fifteen. Let's go twenty. Okay, first twenty, and you 702 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: feel like if the Titans want to take one at 703 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: twenty six, they probably can, but they could wait until 704 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: day two. The same way at the guard or center position, 705 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: because they have the two fours, they have the five, 706 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: they have the two sixes. They could get quality alignment 707 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: on day three. Absolutely, yes, the answer is yes, yes, 708 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: and yes. Big recap. Thank you, Amy Wells. Anything you'd 709 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: like to say. I'm just excited. I'm excited to be 710 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: here at Western Kentucky. I'm excited to be talking about 711 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the draft. I'm just I'm fired up. 712 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: It's first class set up, right, here's a great set up. 713 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I really like. There's big Red. There's big Red, 714 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Big Red. Where is Tres? Come up here? I have 715 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: to get a picture. Come on, I think about mascots 716 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: in college. Get back here, behind one of the Get 717 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: back here behind this big red. Come on, Trac. Let's go. Okay, 718 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: how about this. He's gonna take pictures while we're live 719 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: doing Yes, I know we're still talking to is fine here? Okay, 720 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: we just not bother going to take a photo? Go ahead, 721 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: they can't talk? Go ahead? All right, here we go. 722 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: This is mildli yes, because the people who are listening 723 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: to the when we play this, they won't be able 724 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: to see it because it's not a video pod is on. No, No, 725 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: it's really not. But that's MAC doesn't care that this 726 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: is not a visual medium. We were just doing coach 727 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: max stuff. We were just doing coach max stuff. That's 728 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: what we do here on the OTP when we are 729 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: on the road. That's good stuff. Okay. The OTP is 730 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: presented by our great friends at Farm Bureau Health Plans 731 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: veter rates better coverage in better service. That's why Tennessee's 732 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: have been relying on Farm Bureau Health plans for their 733 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage for seventy five years. Next up we go 734 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: to Tennessee Tech. Yes, I'm excited to go to cook Fill. 735 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: Our old friend Larry Stone, Randy Wilmore, Randy Wilmore health 736 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: plane played at Tennessee. His family will be there. I mean, 737 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: they've got big to live up to. After how nice 738 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: Western's made it. It's gonna be hard to beat this 739 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: set up right here. Truly, it's gonna be really hard 740 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: to beat this. What are we gonna talk about? From 741 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: the coach Mack one fifty tomorrows. Let's go edge rushers 742 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: in the big lineman defensive front. Let's do that. I 743 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: like the edge rushers, Let's do that. Titans could take 744 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: an edge rusher at twenty six and there's plenty there. 745 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: There'll be a really good one. There's plenty there. Yeah, 746 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 1: you're right. A lot to talk about for Coach Mac, 747 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: for the athletic director here at Western Kentucky, Todd Stewart, 748 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: and for Aby Wells, for Big Red and t Rak 749 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: and the OT people. This is the OT feed never 750 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: gotten knows it's our house thoughts making three greenness,