Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for
Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.
Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Whinesday. August fourteen, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number twenty seven. This is our last and final show
Speaker 1: from out here in Oxnard, California. Better be good. You
Speaker 1: better make it good, Derek, our last show here. Let's
Speaker 1: bring it like you kind of say something mean at
Speaker 1: the start of every time, how mean this? That's motivation?
Speaker 1: Remember what you said, my little Tony Robbins right said,
Speaker 1: do you want to host? You're like no, no, you
Speaker 1: got it? And then and then there you go, um No,
Speaker 1: it's our last show here in Oxnard. We are packing up.
Speaker 1: Better be good, Derek, Let's go better be good. It
Speaker 1: will be it will be very good. We got a
Speaker 1: great show. We got a great show lined up for
Speaker 1: you guys. But this will be the last show for
Speaker 1: the US, for those of you guys out here in Oxnard.
Speaker 1: If you want to catch a practice, today's your final
Speaker 1: day to DYBP able to do that. They have a
Speaker 1: practice this afternoon at three thirty Pacific time. It will
Speaker 1: be the last practice. Tomorrow is not a practice. That
Speaker 1: practice was canceled. We will be heading off to Hawaii
Speaker 1: tomorrow for the Cowboys to take on the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Rams on Saturday night UM in Honolulu. So we got
Speaker 1: a few things that we want to get into today.
Speaker 1: This is with being our last show here at training
Speaker 1: camp in Oxnard. Remember we do have training camp once
Speaker 1: we get back for another two weeks. But last day
Speaker 1: in Oxnard, I really wanted to give a big picture
Speaker 1: look at what we've said out here and kind of
Speaker 1: makes sense of it for our listeners from an overall
Speaker 1: perspective of all the fifteen practices that we've seen so far.
Speaker 1: So let's start with a little bit of blanket coverage.
Speaker 1: I have, actually the day, have four statements that I'm
Speaker 1: going to toss to you guys. You fill in the blanks.
Speaker 1: Statement number one. After fifteen practices, I'm convinced, convinced of
Speaker 1: this that this one thing is true. Fill in the blank.
Speaker 1: It's time to go home. I can't even play along.
Speaker 1: I mean, I am I'm not playing. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is definitely definitely time to go home after a fifteen game,
Speaker 1: fifteen practices. This is true, Uh, contract years or a
Speaker 1: real thing. It's a real thing. It really does happen.
Speaker 1: When you're in your contract year, you play better. I'll
Speaker 1: see where you're going with that. Elite Collins is playing better.
Speaker 1: I think Amari Cooper will play better if if he's
Speaker 1: gonna finish on a contract year. In saying with that,
Speaker 1: I bet Anthony Brown plays a lot better this year.
Speaker 1: I just think that's a real thing, and it happens.
Speaker 1: I've seen it with Spencer, I've seen it with Hatcher,
Speaker 1: seen it with I know there's been others. So because
Speaker 1: we're gonna come up with a list of our best
Speaker 1: players of training camp, and if Malie Collins is at
Speaker 1: number one, he'll be number two or three. He's been
Speaker 1: outstanding and it's hard to be outstanding as a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle and when you're not practicing, but he has been good.
Speaker 1: Amber you're convinced of this one thing after fifteen practices
Speaker 1: that you can never have a calm off season if
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys. I Honestly, going into this year, after
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence signing and all that, I was convinced that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. We're gonna go to camp,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. I'm ready this team can make
Speaker 1: it to the super Bowl. I'm not saying they can't
Speaker 1: right now or anything like that. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is now you have all these other layers of things
Speaker 1: that are starting to happen. The contract talks, you go
Speaker 1: seek holding out, you got different injuries popping up, and
Speaker 1: it's like, man, can we just enjoy this for a
Speaker 1: little longer? Can we enjoy the excitement a little longer?
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying things, are you going down to
Speaker 1: drain yet or anything like that, but I would like
Speaker 1: to be more hyped as of right now, Dave. As
Speaker 1: much football as we've watched and as long as we've
Speaker 1: been out here, like the real process of getting this
Speaker 1: team ready hasn't even started yet. And when I say that,
Speaker 1: I mean how many of this team's most important players
Speaker 1: have even done a ton of work out here. Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott's not here, Amari Cooper has been MA for a week,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Larns and Byron Jones are not yet off of pup.
Speaker 1: Zack Martin is resting his back. Travis Frederick is slowly
Speaker 1: inching his way deeper into the water. I just listed
Speaker 1: like six of the team's best players. They're they're not ready.
Speaker 1: And we've seen the young guys have done a lot,
Speaker 1: and the rookies are exciting. You know, we've learned about
Speaker 1: the depth, but like the guys that are going to
Speaker 1: be responsible for getting this team to the playoffs have
Speaker 1: not even really gotten to work yet. And so, like
Speaker 1: I said, and I'm I've said before, like I'm not
Speaker 1: concerned about it because we're talking about all pro players here,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of there's a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do between when you get back to Frisco and
Speaker 1: when you start playing real football games in regard to
Speaker 1: the actual guys who are going to play on Sunday
Speaker 1: and not the feel good training camp stories all right,
Speaker 1: after fifteen practices, my biggest concern for this team is
Speaker 1: blank amber biggest concern health. I think that obviously the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a ton of talent on the roster right now,
Speaker 1: both on the defense side and then on the offense
Speaker 1: as well. And one of the things that I think
Speaker 1: can really mess up this whole season is health and
Speaker 1: why happens with the guys on the old line and
Speaker 1: all that, especially if Seek is not here and he's
Speaker 1: not able to help you out that way to begin with.
Speaker 1: If something happens with one of these old linemen and
Speaker 1: things aren't going that great the backup guys, that's going
Speaker 1: to be really concerning. As far as the running game,
Speaker 1: Dave biggest concern is, I mean, health is always in
Speaker 1: this sport. Health is always huge. My biggest concern is
Speaker 1: probably just like, do these leaps actually happen? You know,
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to throw shade at Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: but I just remember how much we raved about him
Speaker 1: at safety in twenty seventeen, and it didn't show up
Speaker 1: when it actually mattered. You know, he was fine, He
Speaker 1: didn't you know, they moved they switched his position a
Speaker 1: year later, so he clearly wasn't amazing. And you know,
Speaker 1: I can go down the list. Malie Collins is having
Speaker 1: an amazing camp, Michael Gallup is having an amazing camp,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is having an amazing camp. Cheeto and Jordan
Speaker 1: are having amazing camps. Will they will it matter, will
Speaker 1: it translate, because that's what's going to be the difference,
Speaker 1: I think between this team taking that proverbial next step,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know Robert Quinn and Randall Cobber here,
Speaker 1: and there's rookies here, and you know, there's some interesting
Speaker 1: potential for this team to get better. But the big
Speaker 1: thing is going to be existing players taking another step
Speaker 1: in their game. And it's happening so far, but that's
Speaker 1: it's a different beast when you start playing other teams. Nick,
Speaker 1: biggest concern is he not being here his contract. Let on,
Speaker 1: that's it, all right. I mean, if he's not here,
Speaker 1: this team isn't as good. I don't care what they
Speaker 1: say about thirty six. They'll be scared to death if
Speaker 1: he has to play. He gotta get here with this contract,
Speaker 1: and the more he holds out, the more leverage I
Speaker 1: believe he has. So all right, after fifteen practices, the
Speaker 1: player that surprised me the most was blank Nick, I
Speaker 1: would say, Jordan Lewis. Jordan Lewis has been really good,
Speaker 1: really good. And is that surprise you or you just
Speaker 1: he was you were expecting to be that good. I
Speaker 1: think he's been I think he's We did a point
Speaker 1: counterpoint with brought us and myself and he said he
Speaker 1: should be a starter, and I said, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's in the top two. I still don't know if
Speaker 1: I believe that, because Cheeto has been really good. But
Speaker 1: he's been I think he's in the top three for sure.
Speaker 1: So he's been a really good player and to the
Speaker 1: point where you don't think about trading the depth away
Speaker 1: and to try to get something. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you have to cut a lumba if you have to,
Speaker 1: and just take your chances. But he's been so it.
Speaker 1: Yesterday he made what I think was the play of
Speaker 1: training camp in an interception that he got were literally
Speaker 1: laid out at a moment's notice and and got to
Speaker 1: pick great coverage and it was one of the best players.
Speaker 1: It's a bitter sweet play because it was really awesome.
Speaker 1: And I know how many awesome photos and videos that
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman gets. I didn't get him, David. He just
Speaker 1: stood up from sitting down getting all the shots. He
Speaker 1: just would have been the greatest video. That video, I
Speaker 1: mean could have been like one of your it happened,
Speaker 1: would have been your heart. It happens without fail like
Speaker 1: when I when I let my guard up, that's when
Speaker 1: they do something awesome, which that's on me because you
Speaker 1: should never let your guard up. You gotta be relentless
Speaker 1: as Jason Garrett down down Sorry, sorry, yeah, when I
Speaker 1: let it down? Sorry? Okay? Making sure all right? Amber
Speaker 1: player that surprised you the most blank Um. This might
Speaker 1: sound weird because he was pretty good last year, but
Speaker 1: to me, I would say my league Collins just because
Speaker 1: he was battling with injuries last season. And to me,
Speaker 1: whenever an injury pops up, specially a reoccurring one, and
Speaker 1: not only on one side of the leg, on both sides,
Speaker 1: so it always concerns me and I'm always paying attention
Speaker 1: as to how well that player can hold up. And
Speaker 1: he's he's held up pretty good out here. A training
Speaker 1: came and not just held up, but exceeded my expectations.
Speaker 1: He's been playing really, really good. Dave. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Dorn's armstrong, not because he's not any good, but like
Speaker 1: I temper my expectations when it comes to those guys
Speaker 1: like I. I think people fall for this trap a
Speaker 1: lot where they're like, oh, he's in his second year
Speaker 1: and he's coming along and a lot of times that
Speaker 1: doesn't really pan out. Any defensive end is a typically
Speaker 1: a position where this studs at that position come from
Speaker 1: the first two rounds of the draft, Like you don't
Speaker 1: see a lot of like all pros coming from the
Speaker 1: fourth round. And he's not an all pro yet. But
Speaker 1: he looked exactly like people thought he would look like
Speaker 1: everybody that said like, oh he could he could take
Speaker 1: the next step, he could make that leap. He's looked
Speaker 1: exactly like that. And maybe it's my own shortcomings as
Speaker 1: a pessimistic person, but I didn't actually think that would happen. Sorry, Dorans,
Speaker 1: I'm throwing another guy in real quick. I think I'm
Speaker 1: surprised that Tavon Austin is having the camp he's having
Speaker 1: and that he is pretty much anything can change, but
Speaker 1: I feel like right now he's kind of locked into
Speaker 1: a position. I never thought that Tavon would be locked in.
Speaker 1: Didn't think that they even wanted him back, and they
Speaker 1: signed him to a one year deal, and I was like,
Speaker 1: let's see if Pollard can do. But is it more
Speaker 1: because of what he has done as opposed to what
Speaker 1: other guys haven't done. No, I think it's because of
Speaker 1: what he's I would argue that he's had a very
Speaker 1: good and I thought what you said, I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to start off that way, like let's see
Speaker 1: if someone can do it better. He's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: And the fact that we had somebody tell us that
Speaker 1: right now he's tied with Randall Cobb have having the
Speaker 1: best camp, is the third best guy behind Gallup and Cooper,
Speaker 1: you know, and not not having the best camp because
Speaker 1: Cooper has been baked up. But you know, like as
Speaker 1: far as making the team and all that, like he's
Speaker 1: right there. He's right there with Cobb. It's easy to
Speaker 1: forget that he had a really good camp last year too,
Speaker 1: and they were using him as a downfield receiver and
Speaker 1: it looked very similar. He got hurt in week two
Speaker 1: of the season. Maybe that was part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's looked good out here, all right.
Speaker 1: Final question from a blanket coverage. Jerry had a session
Speaker 1: with the media yesterday. He had some interesting things to say.
Speaker 1: He did say this particular nugget. He said, a deal
Speaker 1: could be done with someone that no one is talking about.
Speaker 1: I think, and this is you. I was putting your perspective.
Speaker 1: I think he's referring to blank Dave. First of all,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen, Like, I don't, uh number,
Speaker 1: If I had to pick my best, it's got to
Speaker 1: be somebody where like you can kind of control the price,
Speaker 1: I think. And so the names that come to mind MALIEK.
Speaker 1: Collins or maybe Antoine Woods, um, guys that like would
Speaker 1: maybe be happy to sign a new contract. Malik was
Speaker 1: the first guy I thought, I'm I'm gonna let them answer,
Speaker 1: but I've got more to say about that, and why
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say another name. Okay, all right, So I
Speaker 1: like I like the Antoine Woods. I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: Reminds me a little bit of the Jay Ratliffe situation
Speaker 1: the first time around, when they signed him and they're like,
Speaker 1: why would they sign him? He's still young and it
Speaker 1: turned out to be a steal um. But remember Antoine
Speaker 1: Woods's agents, Drew Rosenhouse, He's not playing that game. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't. You're not gonna You're not gonna sneak anything
Speaker 1: by you know that situation. Um, I I would say
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, I think would be the would be my
Speaker 1: guest there. I've seen him sign a player when he's
Speaker 1: been banged up before, and and you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: with Byron is a little bit worried about how this
Speaker 1: year is going to be and go for him, they
Speaker 1: might be able to get him maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: cheaper than the market would would say. That would be
Speaker 1: my guest, Byron Jones and Norm Byron. He also could
Speaker 1: be one of those guys that looks at it and say,
Speaker 1: as you know, I think what I got here now
Speaker 1: is a great situation for me. I think I could
Speaker 1: be my best here. I don't necessarily want to god
Speaker 1: in free agency. So if you give me a dear
Speaker 1: that deal I think is fair for me, I'm willing
Speaker 1: to maybe take it a little earlier and not test
Speaker 1: the free agency market. You got another one, Yeah, Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: I saw a fan. That's an interesting one. I saw
Speaker 1: a fan. I don't think they do, but that's an
Speaker 1: interesting one. I saw a fan suggesting that when this
Speaker 1: came out. But I Jason Garrett doesn't fall under the
Speaker 1: salary cap. I don't think Jerry would. I don't think
Speaker 1: Jerry would say that. I honestly think they want him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like the perception of make him hungry, right, I
Speaker 1: think like that if he was gonna do it, he
Speaker 1: would have done it way before, like the eve of
Speaker 1: the season, right, I think Amber, m Um, I don't
Speaker 1: have any other guys aside from those two that they mentioned.
Speaker 1: I could see my first thought would be in the league,
Speaker 1: and I could see Byron doing that because of how
Speaker 1: he is and his uh stage stage how do you
Speaker 1: say status right now or whatever? Um. Other than that,
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys, I mean you mentioned Antoine,
Speaker 1: I see him definitely being a guy like okay, because
Speaker 1: he's always striving to be great, and you know he's
Speaker 1: in that hot boy mode and you know they're you
Speaker 1: know how those people are looking for big money, and
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna do the same thing. And uh,
Speaker 1: you talk about Jalen, that's another guy that's definitely no.
Speaker 1: I kinda do that right now, No absolute way, So
Speaker 1: I think what I can get more money though, Lyle, Lyle, Jalen,
Speaker 1: and I think Byron. Although Byron is interesting because of
Speaker 1: the injury, maybe if they made him a fair offer,
Speaker 1: maybe he would agree to it, just on the off
Speaker 1: chance he doesn't have a great year because of that.
Speaker 1: But Lyle, Byron, and Jalen are all sixteen games away
Speaker 1: from FU money. And Jalen's not technically because he's headed
Speaker 1: for restricted free agency, but like he I don't know anything,
Speaker 1: but like, I won't be surprised if we're in this
Speaker 1: position with Jalen next summer that we already held up.
Speaker 1: I mean, if let's say they give him a first
Speaker 1: round tender, he could be playing on a five million
Speaker 1: dollar deal after back to back like Pro Bowl caliber seasons.
Speaker 1: He's at some point in his career he's going to
Speaker 1: be gunning for like the eighteen million dollar type of mark.
Speaker 1: It could be next year. I don't know, but those
Speaker 1: guys have a lot of money at stake. The thing
Speaker 1: like Antoine is an exclusive rights free agent, which means
Speaker 1: like the team doesn't even have to try to keep him.
Speaker 1: And Malik has had the injury history. He's also he
Speaker 1: strikes me as just being a low key guy. He's
Speaker 1: quieter than Tyron Smith um, so maybe he just wants
Speaker 1: to get it out of the way and not even
Speaker 1: mess with free agency. That's why I lean toward those two.
Speaker 1: The tricky guy. The tricky part for Lyle is if
Speaker 1: Lyle goes and signs somewhere else, for you know, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, eleven million, twelve million, you know, something like that,
Speaker 1: whatever the market is, you know, then you still got
Speaker 1: a Wow he makes more than tyrantsman, you know, that
Speaker 1: would be the story. But if the Cowboys signed him
Speaker 1: for that and now he's making more than ty Tyres,
Speaker 1: that can't happen. Right now, you got another problem on
Speaker 1: your hands. I just don't think. I don't think Lyle
Speaker 1: is going to command that kind of money, do you,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, Lyle has been Okay, he's been
Speaker 1: a good, solid player for him, Okay, great, if you
Speaker 1: keep in mind Yron is playing on the most absurdly
Speaker 1: team friendly deal in the NFL. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: I'm so saying, compared to what these other guys are making,
Speaker 1: I think Lyle be given his age and given his
Speaker 1: production and his position flex if you will, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be He's gonna make that kind of money.
Speaker 1: And so if the Cowboys signed him to what the
Speaker 1: market is, it's going to be more than what Tyrant is.
Speaker 1: And that's when I don't think. If he signs with
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers or whoever or Falcons for this, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, you can't believe he's making more than
Speaker 1: Tyrant and it's not that big a deal because it's
Speaker 1: not here. But if it's here, no, that ain't gonna happen. Trym.
Speaker 1: Brown is the guy I keep going back to, and
Speaker 1: he's making like seventeen million a year. Lyon might not
Speaker 1: even hit that, but like it just seems realistic to
Speaker 1: assume Tyrons like ten. He signed a ten year contract.
Speaker 1: That's but also, like I talked about that with somebody yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think he cares. Tyrant is
Speaker 1: the rare guy that I don't think cares. Now. I
Speaker 1: think Tyron thinks I'm making a lot of money. I
Speaker 1: can take care of myself. He might next generation, he
Speaker 1: might care if his not as good linemate is making
Speaker 1: almost double his salary. Though maybe you know, yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's tough, especially okay for those positions that you are
Speaker 1: always you'll see hit the break, go ahead, sorry, keep going,
Speaker 1: and you just say I'm keep going. That's funny. Okay,
Speaker 1: what was I saying? Oh that that position you know
Speaker 1: you were, especially a guy like him is constantly getting
Speaker 1: hurt and he's had healthy issues or with his back
Speaker 1: and all that, and you start looking at other guys
Speaker 1: making more money than you. I mean that turns a
Speaker 1: light on you know, you want to be able to
Speaker 1: get the most money that you can, especially when this
Speaker 1: is something that's gonna affect you for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life. I mean, your body's not gonna get any better.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, I don't want to work. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be at work. The day that they
Speaker 1: announced a contract extension with Antoine Woods and the Big
Speaker 1: Three remained unsigned, like that doesn't sound fun for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be a s show. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go and take our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through our position evaluation. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: through each position. We're gonna talk about three different things.
Speaker 1: Who's been the best player, who's been the most improved
Speaker 1: or surprising player, And who may be the odd man
Speaker 1: out that veteran or player that was a starter or
Speaker 1: a player last year that may not be on the team.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come right back. This
Speaker 1: is Dallas Cowboys Dot Radio. If you're like me and
Speaker 1: you love I mean, if you have a thing, then
Speaker 1: cutting the chord is scary. But then I found out
Speaker 1: I could switch it or actv now and still get
Speaker 1: the live sports I love. No satellite needed, no Bolky hardware,
Speaker 1: no annual contract, just that the live sports. You try
Speaker 1: direct tv now for ten dollars a month for three months.
Speaker 1: Visit DirecTV now dot com direct tv now more for
Speaker 1: your thing that's out our thing he's called really a
Speaker 1: limited time price for little page if three months when
Speaker 1: he's monthday full price currently mad him in forty dollars
Speaker 1: and less cans. Prices may change. We subscribers on cance
Speaker 1: leting time. Content varies by package and maybe limited your
Speaker 1: sixtens the plaff. You want the most interesting, up to
Speaker 1: the minute Dallas Cowboys news straight from the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: How about exclusive and on command. That's right news and
Speaker 1: nuggets you can't find anywhere else. With our exclusive Cowboys
Speaker 1: content on Alexa, you can have all the answers, secrets,
Speaker 1: stories and more. What's Stephen Jones thinking during a game?
Speaker 1: What's Joe Looney's favorite pregame meal? We take your questions
Speaker 1: to Cowboys players and coaches and you can hear the
Speaker 1: answers directly back to you. Just say Alexa Open Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Star Sports Tours is the only official fan travel partner
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages
Speaker 1: with sideline access and photo ops with current players, alumni,
Speaker 1: and cheerleaders. That's not all, though, You'll get to talk
Speaker 1: x's and os with Senior Director of Player Personnel Will
Speaker 1: McClay and of course with yours truly, me, Brian broad Us.
Speaker 1: You can trust the official fan travel partner of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and with us, you'll travel like a pro.
Speaker 1: Visit Cowboys Travel dot com to book your travel package today.
Speaker 1: While a player could look good on paper, it's when
Speaker 1: he's out on the field that you really find out
Speaker 1: what he's made of. That's why the Cowboys rely on
Speaker 1: more than just stats and scouting reports when building their team.
Speaker 1: When picking a tractor, it's why you should rely on
Speaker 1: more than just specs and features. You've got to take
Speaker 1: it out and put it to the test. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: did when they named John Deer their official tractor experience
Speaker 1: one for yourself. Visit my John Dear Dealer dot com.
Speaker 1: Slash Football Back to the Break Welcome Back. It is
Speaker 1: the second segment of a great live from Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: Is our final show before we head out going through
Speaker 1: Hawaii for the second preseason game, and then heading back
Speaker 1: to the Star next week for our shows to continue
Speaker 1: there those do a position evaluation. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: each position and we're gonna talk about the best player,
Speaker 1: the most improved or supplies, the surprising player, and then
Speaker 1: who may be the odd man out. Let's start first
Speaker 1: with the quarterback position. Obviously we know who the best
Speaker 1: player is, so I don't want to labor that. But
Speaker 1: from the standpoint, the most improved or surprising player, who
Speaker 1: would you say it's been outside of Dak, of those
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, who's been the most surprising or most improved? Okay,
Speaker 1: most surprising and most improved. Gimme arn Christian because he
Speaker 1: showed up here as like a camp arm who i'd
Speaker 1: never heard of two days before a camp and now
Speaker 1: they've got He's Jamie Shower's two point er. He's playing
Speaker 1: special teams, he's playing wide receiver. He's hanging out with
Speaker 1: John Kidnon every day, like you know, trying my best
Speaker 1: to read the tea leaves. He strikes me as a
Speaker 1: practice squad all the way, like he's gonna be here.
Speaker 1: I don't, and I mean, Cooper Rush probably will be too,
Speaker 1: but he looks like Cooper Rush and Mike White has
Speaker 1: obviously not had a great camp. So and what that
Speaker 1: means is that that's a roster spot right there, because
Speaker 1: Mike White has shown nothing right now to say that
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the team. You've got all
Speaker 1: these other positions that you need to go a little
Speaker 1: heavy on. Two quarterbacks, one on the practice squad. And
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, maybe Mike White could be
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yeah, he could be mean if
Speaker 1: he would be wild if they had two quarterbacks on
Speaker 1: the practice squad. True, but you know with him doing
Speaker 1: some of these other yeah, I mean Taren Christian's not
Speaker 1: really a quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I think this one's easier.
Speaker 1: I think Cooper has been you know, he's he's actually
Speaker 1: been improving a lot so and I think the most
Speaker 1: surprising has probably been Mike White of just not being
Speaker 1: as good as I thought he would be. He would
Speaker 1: take that least, that's the odd been out in your
Speaker 1: guy's opinion, What are you guys? I mean, Cooper has
Speaker 1: been better than him, for sure, But has either of
Speaker 1: them surprised me? I'm not surprised by any of them. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about the running back position. Who's
Speaker 1: been the best player? Ah, yeah, it's Tony Pollard. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. But like, I don't want to throw shade
Speaker 1: at the guy, but it's a hard position to evaluate,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is like who's running with
Speaker 1: the ones? So like how much of that is just
Speaker 1: by design of the coaching staff that Tony Pollard's getting
Speaker 1: all that work? Like if Alfred Morris was getting all
Speaker 1: of those reps, he'd probably be kicking ass. And he's
Speaker 1: flashed since he got here. He's done a lot of
Speaker 1: nice stuff. And and Darius Jackson has as well. Da
Speaker 1: Derris Jackson hasn't looked bad Like he ran with the
Speaker 1: ones for five days and then all like, for no
Speaker 1: reason that I can decipher, they were just like, that's
Speaker 1: enough out of you, Tony, get out there. It just
Speaker 1: looked like to me, and that I threw that question
Speaker 1: out mainly because I think we all agree Tony Pollard's
Speaker 1: been the best. But I do think over this last
Speaker 1: week of camp out here, I actually seen a little
Speaker 1: bit more from Alfred Morris. It seems like he's kind
Speaker 1: of you're seeing him make some move. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: looked very pretty loose, which I didn't remember that being
Speaker 1: necessarily a great part of his game. But he looks quick,
Speaker 1: he looks bry. I actually think this last week he's
Speaker 1: looked really really good, and that may be rounding into
Speaker 1: like you were talking about with these VET guys, like
Speaker 1: the beginning of camp in that important to them. It
Speaker 1: starts once you start getting into those last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks before the season starts when they have to start
Speaker 1: really picking it up and getting themselves ready to go,
Speaker 1: because that's really their target is the first game of
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, and I can and I think that
Speaker 1: they're you can tell that they have a role for
Speaker 1: Jama Zola Wally uh time and I'm here for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now he's not He's not your You're Darryl Johnston
Speaker 1: or even Keith Smith by any means. He's not that
Speaker 1: kind of fullback. He's a fullback that's gonna be swinging
Speaker 1: out of the backfield for twenty five yards. He's a
Speaker 1: fullback that can beat a linebacker down the field if
Speaker 1: you give him the opportunity to do. Somebody told me
Speaker 1: that he was one of the fastest players on the team,
Speaker 1: not running back or fullback or whatever. One of the
Speaker 1: fastest players. And he's a big guy. Yeah, he is
Speaker 1: a big guest, but he when he gets out there,
Speaker 1: he and not big, like like fat big. I'm talking
Speaker 1: like big tall, and he's big guy, but he's not
Speaker 1: a lead blocker type guy that's gonna blow you up.
Speaker 1: Zeke Morris, Pollard, Ola Wally. Assuming Zeke comes back, I
Speaker 1: just so you're saying, odd man out at this point,
Speaker 1: is everybody Howeber Weber, Darius Jackson, You guys think those
Speaker 1: guys probably I mean, you know, find your way back
Speaker 1: to the practice squad. Maybe, But like I'll put I'll
Speaker 1: put a fiver down on Zeke Pollard, Alfred Morrison, Jama's Ola.
Speaker 1: The likelihood is that they will have to. I would
Speaker 1: assume there's going to be one of those guys that
Speaker 1: at least will be on the roster when they make cuts,
Speaker 1: because if Zeke's gonna show up, he probably doesn't show
Speaker 1: up till the Tuesday of the first game. I would
Speaker 1: suspect a Darius Jackson's probably not gonna This is not
Speaker 1: gonna be great for him. He's already been one of
Speaker 1: the had had a wild, crazy story. You know, it's
Speaker 1: probably not over yet for him. But but that Morris
Speaker 1: one's interesting because I say Zeke does come back, he
Speaker 1: say signs a deal and all that. That's when I
Speaker 1: wonder how much Morris is really going to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. It's also fair because as the as
Speaker 1: the veteran of the group, like, they have to guarantee
Speaker 1: his salary if he's on the roster at the start
Speaker 1: of the season. But it's not this ginormous salary that
Speaker 1: I think that they'd be afraid to sign on to.
Speaker 1: We know that they haven't already done that because I
Speaker 1: don't feel like they've done something. I thought he got
Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand dollars bonus to sign, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a reason why they had to
Speaker 1: sign him and say, you know, don't don't sign with
Speaker 1: the Saints, yeah, and sign here. So I think they
Speaker 1: like the idea of having a well rounded veteran who
Speaker 1: can step in if Seeks not available for whatever reason. Again,
Speaker 1: there's three games to go and they're going to get
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Mike Weber can can actually
Speaker 1: change a lot of our opinions. Jordan's Chunn can change
Speaker 1: some opinions and cool thing. I think out of everybody,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen flashes from everyone, including those
Speaker 1: two that you just mentioned. The thing is we don't
Speaker 1: get to see them getting much rep as opposed to
Speaker 1: these other guys, so they don't have the chance to
Speaker 1: maybe shine as much a thing. They all score, I
Speaker 1: mean every single score. All of them have been good
Speaker 1: out here, I think even I mean, yeah, Chun is
Speaker 1: probably the one that gets lost in the shuffle the most,
Speaker 1: but even he's been good. Ye all right, leton want
Speaker 1: to the wide receiver position, who's been the best player
Speaker 1: at training camp? My whole gallop ball in. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say it, but yes, yes, sorry, he was
Speaker 1: sort of rude to you one time, not just twice.
Speaker 1: Oh damn to the international fans. We don't mess and
Speaker 1: messing around, you know what, don't mess around within go up,
Speaker 1: get a toe touch touchdown like he did yesterday. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be as rude as you want. No, not true, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can't walk around being rude to be all right,
Speaker 1: all right, most improved or most surprising player at the
Speaker 1: wide receiver position, and this can be good or bad.
Speaker 1: If there's a surprising player that you think you expected more,
Speaker 1: you got Cop Randall, Cop I didn't. I obviously he
Speaker 1: has experience and all that, but I wasn't expecting to
Speaker 1: see him being so good out here and having that
Speaker 1: connection with Dak as quickly as he's had it. So
Speaker 1: I'm honestly impressed with what he's been able to do,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see it in the season and
Speaker 1: how he's able to help the team. I said it
Speaker 1: before I thought Tavon. I'm surprised that Tavon has has
Speaker 1: been that productive and been as good as he has
Speaker 1: been as a receiver um out here. But you know
Speaker 1: they love John Vay too. Is that your guy? No,
Speaker 1: I'll probably go with Tavon too, because everybody's trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of him for more or less. I mean,
Speaker 1: you signed Cobb, You're like, yeah, he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: slot receiver. He you know, Aaron Rodgers, Pro Bowl, all
Speaker 1: that good stuff, like you kind of penciled him on
Speaker 1: the team immediately. Like Tavon. It's like, well, we can
Speaker 1: get rid of this guy if we need to, and
Speaker 1: he's out of here having a great camp. Once the
Speaker 1: alarm went off. I really thought the alarm was going
Speaker 1: to go off for him. You're talking about, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't remember. Oh, why do you bring that to the
Speaker 1: seriously to say when the alarm went off, I thought
Speaker 1: it was over for him. You're such like such an implier,
Speaker 1: you know, can't talk about what you're talking about. The
Speaker 1: one thing, the one thing I'll throw out there about
Speaker 1: particular about Randall Cop is I like what he brings
Speaker 1: to the team. I like his veteran presence. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good receiver for them. One thing
Speaker 1: that I'm going to keep an eye on that I've
Speaker 1: noticed out here. He's had a couple of days and
Speaker 1: there's been that account in two different days where he
Speaker 1: was dropping a lot of passes. One day he had
Speaker 1: three drops, one day he had two, and they were
Speaker 1: in every instance. There was a situation where he had
Speaker 1: to extend a little bit, ball hit his hands and
Speaker 1: just went straight through his hands. And that wasn't what
Speaker 1: I thought I knew of Randall Cop. Obviously not watching
Speaker 1: every Green Bay Packer game, I don't really know what
Speaker 1: his history is with regards of drops, but I do
Speaker 1: know that those two days happened and it put up
Speaker 1: my antenna. So that's something I'm gonna be keeping an
Speaker 1: eye on once we get into the regular season. Wide
Speaker 1: receiver is so like running backs, hard to evaluate. Wide
Speaker 1: receivers so easy to evaluate. Are you getting open or
Speaker 1: you catching cans? Right? So for me to think you're
Speaker 1: having a great camp as a receiver, you gotta bring
Speaker 1: it and be awesome every day. And that's why I
Speaker 1: go out of my way to sing gallops praises because
Speaker 1: he has even you know, his drops have been one handed,
Speaker 1: you know, just crazy stuff where all these instances I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, we're balls that were pretty readily catchable. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He has been up and down,
Speaker 1: Like he hasn't been terrible, but he's had at least
Speaker 1: two or three pretty mad practices, and yesterday being one
Speaker 1: of them. He I mean, he had to jump forward.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a great ball, but it went right through
Speaker 1: his two hands. Yeah, so he was trying. He was
Speaker 1: still getting acclimated to all good and again, like I said,
Speaker 1: he's had he's had way more better good days and
Speaker 1: he's had bad days. But my point is, I just
Speaker 1: that's something that piqued my interest because it seemed like
Speaker 1: it happened in bunches. And that's where I'm gonna wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, do you get into the season and do
Speaker 1: those games show up where it's a game or two
Speaker 1: here and there, Yeah, where he's just kind of not
Speaker 1: completely on on. He's not catching the ball like he
Speaker 1: normally does. Something to watch you know, who arrows going up?
Speaker 1: Devin Smith? Yeah he is after we've showing up here.
Speaker 1: We tried our best to bury him yesterday, but he
Speaker 1: like he had another great day of practice. Is it
Speaker 1: possible for him to get back into the mix to
Speaker 1: make this team? I still it's hard. Yeah, something happens injuries, obviously, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can remember. There's sorry, no, I'm go ahead. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are gonna get cut from
Speaker 1: other teams, and all of a sudden, then you look
Speaker 1: at all these other receivers and you're like, it's one
Speaker 1: of them better than than Devin Smith, you know, and yeah,
Speaker 1: probably gonna you know, that's probably gonna be the case.
Speaker 1: But this, this, the back end of the depth chart,
Speaker 1: is all about like what what can what all can
Speaker 1: you do? How many ways can you help us? Can
Speaker 1: you play all three positions? Can you play on special teams.
Speaker 1: Devin Smith, I just I don't know that he has
Speaker 1: the versatility to fit that bill, especially if you have
Speaker 1: Cobb and Tavon. I mean, he would have had to
Speaker 1: have been better than Tavon, or Tavon would have to
Speaker 1: be kind of like, you know what, we don't need
Speaker 1: him right now. We got other guys that can do
Speaker 1: that because they're smaller guys that can run. You know,
Speaker 1: you got your big guy and Noel Brown who's gonna
Speaker 1: be here much like jay Len Guyden. Most of the
Speaker 1: good stuff we've seen from Devin Smith has him been
Speaker 1: running in a straight line down the field like that's
Speaker 1: what he does. He's really good at it. So's Jalen?
Speaker 1: Is that enough? When you're talking about the last position
Speaker 1: on the receiver depth chart? I think they wanted Jalen
Speaker 1: guyten to be like this because he's got the build
Speaker 1: of I mean, he looks like Terrence Williams out there,
Speaker 1: just size wise and Terry Glenn and all that. You know,
Speaker 1: just kind of a big you know, he looks good
Speaker 1: in the pads and all that. But he hasn't he
Speaker 1: hasn't been like Dave said, he hasn't had been you know,
Speaker 1: hasn't the light bulb hasn't come on, just so he
Speaker 1: looked big. He is big. Who's the best player at
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position that won't make the team? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: um oh oh. I'm not convinced John Vay is gonna
Speaker 1: make the team yet. Reggie Davis. Reggie Davis. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been pretty good. He's just gonna be on the outside.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a good answer, all right,
Speaker 1: It's more on the tight end position. Who's been the
Speaker 1: best player? This is an interesting one because you could
Speaker 1: probably make a case for two or three guys as
Speaker 1: the best player we've been. Whitten went out there and
Speaker 1: made that one handed grab yesterday, looking like Witten is
Speaker 1: he's This is the last couple I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: three four last practices. I've been like he's every day
Speaker 1: it seems like he's making a play. I'm like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I want us all right, I'll say I mean everything.
Speaker 1: All in all, it's still probably Witten, but Jarwin's the
Speaker 1: most improved. Like I mean, I kind of again kind
Speaker 1: of like Dorn's armstring. I came armstrong, I came out here,
Speaker 1: like okay, Blake Jarwin, I I hear you. I know,
Speaker 1: you caught three touchdowns, big whoop. But he's looked awesome
Speaker 1: out here, I think camp. I think Whitten has been
Speaker 1: the most surprising, honestly, just because it's close of who's
Speaker 1: you know, our expectations are up here or down here?
Speaker 1: I don't even know. With Whitten, it's weird. What are
Speaker 1: your expectations? Is it a guy that's coming out of
Speaker 1: football for years or the guy that's going to be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I mean, so I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to expect both, right, It's like and I
Speaker 1: asked him that, you know, I did an interview with
Speaker 1: him and it'll go up in a couple or tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, rest versus rusty. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what we always talk about. It is there is
Speaker 1: a rest gonna help you or is it are you're
Speaker 1: gonna be rusty? And he said combination of both. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think he's been. He's been pretty good. And
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a it's a it's a one
Speaker 1: A and one B. But Jarwin's gonna play more than
Speaker 1: any tight end that's ever played with Witten before. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm starting to believe that Jarwin might actually have a
Speaker 1: significant snap count, which you can. I mean, I've been
Speaker 1: saying a whole year that I didn't think that would
Speaker 1: be the case. Yeah, Amber, what are your thoughts too?
Speaker 1: You know, we went in his last year here. I
Speaker 1: was starting to see a decline with him, um as
Speaker 1: far as just seeing him slow, slowing down a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, not moving as well as we're used to
Speaker 1: seeing him move. And my expectations with him coming back
Speaker 1: after a year being out it wasn't that high. You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I wonder if how
Speaker 1: old he's gonna look out there when you throw him
Speaker 1: in the mix of all these younger guys, And no,
Speaker 1: he's been able to keep up with everyone. He looks
Speaker 1: even better than the last year that he was here.
Speaker 1: As long as his helmet's on, he looks younger, looks amazing.
Speaker 1: He looks younger than he did. When he takes his
Speaker 1: helmet off, You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, changed got a
Speaker 1: few less here. But with then Blake Jarwin, I really
Speaker 1: like him too. He still needs to improve in the
Speaker 1: blocking game, but as you know, last year when Swain
Speaker 1: went out, he started improving with all the reps that
Speaker 1: they were giving him. You started seeing him an incline
Speaker 1: in progress, and I'm glad that he's been able to
Speaker 1: carry that into this year and keep improving and he's
Speaker 1: doing well. All right, um, let's move on. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. Who's been the best player at
Speaker 1: the offensive line? Tyron? Yeah, that's pretty easy, all right?
Speaker 1: Who's been? You want to go second? All right, I'll
Speaker 1: give you unto baby. Let's go third? Best ball, come
Speaker 1: up a third best? Probably Lyle? Is that documentary coming up?
Speaker 1: Put her on the spot? Look at her face? Snipe
Speaker 1: fest between you two. I wasn't trying to put her
Speaker 1: on the spot. Taking one takes a shot, then the
Speaker 1: other takes a shot. What are we doing? More about promotion? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if you want to promote one, there's one that's coming
Speaker 1: out today to promote there's actually a deep Blue documentary
Speaker 1: coming out in just a few hours call own it.
Speaker 1: Who's this guy on? Oh? J Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that's coming out today at one o'clock Pacific three cluck. Guys.
Speaker 1: You know what, there's been a you know, I know
Speaker 1: that there's been a lot of stuff on Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: you know, even the last couple of years with him
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame, a football life and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Here are a lot of stories in
Speaker 1: this documentary that that are a little bit different too.
Speaker 1: And Stephen Jones told some really good stuff and brought
Speaker 1: us has a story that's pretty funny there at the end.
Speaker 1: So there there are some good, uh, some nuggets that
Speaker 1: you have things that I don't think there were things
Speaker 1: I had. Probably a story you've heard better if Brian
Speaker 1: told it. I bet I've heard it's cell phone story.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's actually one. That's one good. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's in the cell phone, all right. So who's who
Speaker 1: is the so we say most improved player is? Would
Speaker 1: you say that's it's hard to think that anybody has
Speaker 1: not been more improved than Connor from where he was
Speaker 1: last year to where he is now. The way his
Speaker 1: bodies build, his strength, his ability to play the position,
Speaker 1: he is ten times better. That's another one that, like
Speaker 1: I've said it about a million other guys though like it.
Speaker 1: He has to play like that now. Like it's one
Speaker 1: thing for us to rave about how he looks in camp,
Speaker 1: but it's got to translate when it's freaking Fletcher Cocks.
Speaker 1: On the other side, Well, what you love about it
Speaker 1: is you see him up against these guys like MALIEK. Collins,
Speaker 1: and when when he plants and he settles in, they
Speaker 1: are not moving like that. He is stopping guys. No,
Speaker 1: that's not what he was doing. Last year. Scott the
Speaker 1: nutritionist and and Brett Besch, this strength and conditioning guy, like,
Speaker 1: they gave him a binder in January and it was
Speaker 1: called the Zach Martin How to guy eat this? How
Speaker 1: you Martin do these drills? I mean it's something like
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he plays like Zach because nobody does,
Speaker 1: but he looks exactly like yeah, and this he's even
Speaker 1: growing like kind of a beard situation za yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The left. The disappointing part of all that is that
Speaker 1: he did he got that binder, and then he also
Speaker 1: went to Connor McGovern and said, hey, come with me,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna do this thing becomes zat if you
Speaker 1: saw every day it was both of them, the two Connors,
Speaker 1: out there doing stuff. And then in January or February,
Speaker 1: hopefully Connor's going to go back to those guys and say,
Speaker 1: all right, where's the tyrant Smith binder? Can that one? There?
Speaker 1: You go? But but I it's been disappointing that the
Speaker 1: peck injury has prevented Connor McGovern from doing anything that's
Speaker 1: low key disappointing storyline of camp because but who knows
Speaker 1: what he might have been able to do if he
Speaker 1: was totally healthy. Something tells me that they they aren't.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna keep ten linemen, and maybe they don't
Speaker 1: even keep eight. You think seven? No, No, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe they only keep eight. Eight was It's like you
Speaker 1: can go back and look like they kind of stick
Speaker 1: to a pattern, like for the longest time it was eight.
Speaker 1: They've carried nine a couple of times, but like I
Speaker 1: would say, in Garrett's tenure, they've carried eight way more
Speaker 1: often than any of your three backups are going to
Speaker 1: be looney. Yes, he's been really good. He's been good. McGovern, Fleming, Fleming,
Speaker 1: get it's gotta have a tackle. Yeah, right, there's not
Speaker 1: a better tackle backup tackle. So who that's my question.
Speaker 1: You want to keep nine? You can't. I would too,
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if they're trying to figure out ways
Speaker 1: to maybe not keep Fleming and I'm okay if you
Speaker 1: want to trade, if you're trying to do a roster
Speaker 1: cut trade, that's fine. So who becomes your your tackle
Speaker 1: out here? Do you trust to be your swing tackle
Speaker 1: right now? Right? Unless you want to use Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm wondering. We just raved about, is
Speaker 1: a right like that? Don't move him? If that's what
Speaker 1: I think, Maybe they might do that. But he's exact.
Speaker 1: But the issue maybe looney issue with tackle in practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: he issue with that becomes then you're you're talking about
Speaker 1: unless it's going to be Looney, you're talking about now
Speaker 1: one position injury now affects two or three positions, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever a good Let me clarify,
Speaker 1: Looney was jumbo like. He wasn't playing the right tackle.
Speaker 1: He was in the jumbo package, which is different. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he's been doing that. He's done that in the past.
Speaker 1: That's really more of a tight end, is what that is?
Speaker 1: Ye place to tight end? Yeah, I would be I
Speaker 1: would be surprised if Fleming, So I would keep n
Speaker 1: eye because I don't be shot. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I can get out of the government that would be
Speaker 1: one of the most surprising cuts. I think you could
Speaker 1: make it in my opinion, just knowing what else they have.
Speaker 1: But if they didn't have Fleming on this team. I'm
Speaker 1: telling though, I'm not cutting Suafilo at all. I don't
Speaker 1: cut him all year because I really believe if you
Speaker 1: don't sign lyle and you have to do something, maybe
Speaker 1: when I move Connor out there. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a four fifth year guy, right he's in his fifth year,
Speaker 1: sixth I think six the same draft class is Zach
Speaker 1: I think, okay, I mean he's relatively young. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at him here right here. I mean he's he's his
Speaker 1: body looks a lot different than it than it did
Speaker 1: like maybe six weeks ago, because he was banged up
Speaker 1: a little bit in the offseason, didn't do a lot.
Speaker 1: He you can just put him in regardless. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got that old man you know, Hawaiian strength or something.
Speaker 1: I even know where he's from, man, oh man, He's
Speaker 1: a lot of his families from Hawaiian. He's not remember
Speaker 1: that time writing it right now. Oh, He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of tickets he had to get for this game.
Speaker 1: He's got like sixty people coming telling all right, let's
Speaker 1: go and take our final break. We'll come back. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get into the defense to talk about some of
Speaker 1: those positions. We'll do that when we come right back.
Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. We can look
Speaker 1: good on pay It's when he's out on the field
Speaker 1: that you really find out what he's made of. That's
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys rely on more than just stats and
Speaker 1: scouting reports when building their team. When picking the tractor,
Speaker 1: it's why you should rely on more than just specs
Speaker 1: and features. You've got to take it out and put
Speaker 1: it to the test. The Cowboys did when they name
Speaker 1: John Deer their official tractor experience one for yourself. Visit
Speaker 1: my John Deerdealer dot com. Slash football. It's time for
Speaker 1: tailgate with the Autobox Boys. Auterbox the makers are those
Speaker 1: crazy protective phonecases so one and only. They're also wild
Speaker 1: about protecting parking lot parties from sad drinks. It's why
Speaker 1: they made elevation tumblers room around the crock pot, as
Speaker 1: they're made from stainless steel with a copper lining to
Speaker 1: keep tempts hot or coal true. They even come in
Speaker 1: seven different sizes up to sixty four ounce the growler.
Speaker 1: I like how Auterbox drinks. I mean thanks, and that's
Speaker 1: been tailgating with the autobox boys. Check out all the
Speaker 1: colors and sizes of their elevation tumblers at auterbox dot com.
Speaker 1: Want to use what the pros use? How about the
Speaker 1: official men skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys, Jack Black.
Speaker 1: Right now you can get the Jack Black Playmaker, a
Speaker 1: curated collection of Cowboys locker room favorites, or just ten
Speaker 1: bucks with free shipping. The Playmaker includes four Jack Black
Speaker 1: skincare favorites, plus a full sized Intense Therapy lip bomb
Speaker 1: and a Cowboys can cooler. Go to get Jack Black
Speaker 1: dot com, slash Cowboys and use the code word Cowboys
Speaker 1: the Jack Black Playmaker ten bucks free shipping. Star Sports
Speaker 1: Tours is the only official fan travel partner of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages with sideline
Speaker 1: access and photo ops with current players, alumni and cheerleaders.
Speaker 1: That's not all, though, You'll get to talk x's and
Speaker 1: os with Senior Director of Player Personnel Will McClay and
Speaker 1: of course with yours truly me, Brian broad Us. You
Speaker 1: can trust the official fan travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and with us, you'll travel like a pro Visit Cowboys
Speaker 1: travel dot com to book your travel package today. A
Speaker 1: man's steps and doesn't just protect him from life's elements.
Speaker 1: It projects an unstoppable and legendary spirit, just like the
Speaker 1: men wearing silver and Navy on the field every Sunday.
Speaker 1: Since eighteen sixty five, Stetson Hats are American made with
Speaker 1: pride right here in Texas. They are still the official
Speaker 1: crown of all self prospecting Cowboys, and Stetson is proud
Speaker 1: to be on the field with America's team. Find Stetson
Speaker 1: Hats in the pro Shop or at Stetson dot Com.
Speaker 1: Today back to the break, Welcome back. It's the final
Speaker 1: segment of the Great Blackamoxs dot California Cowboys are taking
Speaker 1: the field right now. They're doing their little uh the
Speaker 1: yoga session. Special teams walk through and yoga while Special
Speaker 1: Teams goes on the vets do yoga yeah, and then
Speaker 1: the special team will do their yoga. The guys who
Speaker 1: are confident that they've got a roster spot are over
Speaker 1: here and the guys who are still working on it
Speaker 1: are over there. Cody Wenchman. Right there. Oh he's hurt
Speaker 1: right now, Kody Wenchman, all right, quite right there. Let's
Speaker 1: let's jump back into I was just trying to make
Speaker 1: a joke, sorry that you daved me right there, and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, actually that's kind of true. Yeah, true.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the defense. Uh, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the defensive line. Who's been the best player on
Speaker 1: the defensive line throughout training camp Mailie Collins. Yeah, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean he's on I was like, looking down the line,
Speaker 1: he has been the best defensive end Dorance Armstrong, carry Hyder?
Speaker 1: Ok okay, maybe carry Hyder all right, imper sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I just love what he's done against the good players,
Speaker 1: Like he's I mean, Lyle's been giving him, like they've
Speaker 1: been going back and forth, but he's been giving Lyle fits.
Speaker 1: He beat Tyron a few times, like he's not beaten
Speaker 1: up on you know, the third and fourth string tackles.
Speaker 1: He's playing well against the studs. Yeah. What Garrett always says,
Speaker 1: as injury provides opportunity, and the fact that the d
Speaker 1: Law and Quinn are now out and and you know,
Speaker 1: at least for this time, and it's it's somebody has
Speaker 1: to go up against Tyrant. You know, Tristan Ta He's
Speaker 1: a troublemaker. Tristan do till do tell No. I'm just
Speaker 1: still I was. I was looking through footage to put
Speaker 1: together a little clip, and I run into several times
Speaker 1: that he has tried to punch somebody like he He's
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. I don't think we'll see much
Speaker 1: this year, but next year, I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of the best here. He has that I don't
Speaker 1: know edge to him, and he doesn't like being thrown around,
Speaker 1: not that anybody does. But when he gets up, he
Speaker 1: gets pissed. You know. He doesn't do the headshake like
Speaker 1: some like get up and just shake their head and
Speaker 1: walk off. He gets pissed. And and that's good for
Speaker 1: what he's trying to do because that pushes him for
Speaker 1: the next rep. He's going all out and giving everything
Speaker 1: that he can. Exactly right about that. And somebody told
Speaker 1: him a long time ago, don't get punked and whatever
Speaker 1: it was, You're not gonna punk me. And so even
Speaker 1: though it happens, you know, he has to go up
Speaker 1: against the Zack Martins and Travis Fredericks and those in
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, but you're not gonna do it twice, you know,
Speaker 1: and and if you do then it will just fight
Speaker 1: lost once. I mean, he's just he's and it's kind
Speaker 1: of like Connor Williams is if you talk to him
Speaker 1: over here, at nice guy, but he's really nasty. He's
Speaker 1: a nasty player, very nice off the field. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's but several of those guys are Look at Joel Learney, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't you gotta be you gotta be
Speaker 1: like that, you gotta be a bastard. For my favorite
Speaker 1: player of all time for the Cowboys, Darren Woodson, was
Speaker 1: exactly like that. He was a beast on the field,
Speaker 1: get him off the field. Is the nicest, most articulate
Speaker 1: guy you ever want to meet and spending half conversation with.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna play in the NFL, those guys
Speaker 1: are meat on the field. I saw to be One
Speaker 1: time Darren Woodson came off the field and cussed out
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, like right to his face, like
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's sixty something. Your sold just cussed
Speaker 1: him out, And I'm just like wow, And then the
Speaker 1: game was always like yeah, probably yeah, talk Jason witten Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gonna be savage on the field, jerk out there. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's it's a whole different thing. I was telling somebody
Speaker 1: the first time I was ever on a sideline doing
Speaker 1: an NFL game. Like the stuff you hear down there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it ain't men for kids, Like they're they're going at
Speaker 1: each other physically, but they're also talking to each other
Speaker 1: and the stuff they're saying, they're challenging, you're you know,
Speaker 1: they're challenging each other. Yeah, mentally challenging each You know,
Speaker 1: we always say that about people, whether or not they're
Speaker 1: players or whatever, when they're when they're new that we
Speaker 1: always make that statement, you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1: And I think Tristan Hill's kind of it. That's, you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what he doesn't know. You know. Charles
Speaker 1: Haley comes to try to help him, and he's kind
Speaker 1: of like a little stand office, you know, like what, no, No,
Speaker 1: it's okay. You know, I'm Charles Haley. Hill might not register,
Speaker 1: you know, admitted to the Hall of Fame and that
Speaker 1: might not register yet either. No, he's just up. My
Speaker 1: name's on the stadium, right, Yeah, A bet ring of
Speaker 1: honor doesn't really, but it's okay, all right. Who's the
Speaker 1: best player on the defensive line that will not make
Speaker 1: this team? The odd man out? Daniel Ross. You don't
Speaker 1: think Danie Ross makes it good. I can't get him
Speaker 1: on the roster. It just depends on how many they keep,
Speaker 1: and that it's hard. I mean, they've gone with as
Speaker 1: few as eight in the past. I don't think that'll
Speaker 1: happen this year, but they have. They've also carried as
Speaker 1: met eleven. I'm gonna float a name out there that
Speaker 1: Nick brought up in practice yesterday. Oh gosh, I was
Speaker 1: just I know, it's just it really is. It's just
Speaker 1: for conversation purposes, because I don't think I would be
Speaker 1: absolutely shocked if it happens Tyrone Crawford. I would, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. I'd be shocked. And you know,
Speaker 1: I just I just said it because I'm you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're looking to see what you know, what they've got.
Speaker 1: Can you still be shocked though, with all the things
Speaker 1: on this team? Yeah, yes, yeah, there's something that get right,
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of Bailey does Brian. That was shocking to
Speaker 1: me expecting I hear what you're saying, but you make
Speaker 1: good points. But if we don't get shocked, then it's
Speaker 1: not fun. So let's get in a while, right uh Um?
Speaker 1: I just you know, that's interesting. He's a captain, He's
Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen. I'm not suggesting it
Speaker 1: or anything. I was just it was awful just looking
Speaker 1: at it. It was just a conversation. Yeah, he's not here,
Speaker 1: and and really, like what I don't know is what
Speaker 1: is he right now? That's what's the body hard part?
Speaker 1: Where do you got him a hard part? His body
Speaker 1: type is impressive. He looks yoked and haven't seen him play,
Speaker 1: But where are you gonna put him? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: put him at defensive And he's not starting at either
Speaker 1: defensive end or defensive tackle? So where does he play?
Speaker 1: Is he your guy that comes in on passing downs?
Speaker 1: He becomes your three technique on passing down? Big ask
Speaker 1: because he's not even off of pup. But he could
Speaker 1: be your starting defensive end week one. Robert Quinn's not here.
Speaker 1: Good point. So I mean it all like the big
Speaker 1: question with him is his health and maybe he'll start
Speaker 1: the season on PUP. I mean at the way, the
Speaker 1: way it's trending right now, which, like I said, DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: we've sort of known this about DeMarcus since like April,
Speaker 1: right and we've like they've been saying. They said it
Speaker 1: at the draft, they said at OTAs mini camp. When
Speaker 1: we got here, they're like, he's working, he's fine, he's
Speaker 1: on target for week one. We haven't heard any of
Speaker 1: that stuff about Tyrone, So maybe we need to be
Speaker 1: digging around a little bit more and find out just
Speaker 1: what maybe the timetable might what their expectations are. I
Speaker 1: think that Taco Charlton will make this team and by
Speaker 1: week two or three, maybe cut or traded if he
Speaker 1: hasn't playing well, and whenever win Quinn comes back. And
Speaker 1: I think, if you know you've got to make a
Speaker 1: move for somebody now, then again, somebody could get hurt
Speaker 1: in week one or two and that changes some things.
Speaker 1: But I think I feel like they're ready to call
Speaker 1: that a loss too. I feel like they would tell
Speaker 1: you that he's picked up his play here in the
Speaker 1: last few days week or so, and I honestly think
Speaker 1: that's gonna make them say we're gonna give him this year,
Speaker 1: this full year to see what he can do and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, then next year is the year
Speaker 1: that he has out. I think he may have done
Speaker 1: enough to at least peak their curiosity to say keep
Speaker 1: him around for another year. Personally, I think I think
Speaker 1: I can cut this roster down right now with a
Speaker 1: high with a high degree of accuracy. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with the defensive line. It's like,
Speaker 1: it is hard. It is the toughest one to kind
Speaker 1: of try to figure out how they're feeling. Even if
Speaker 1: you do all the other ones first and you get
Speaker 1: to forty two and you're like, wow, I got eleven,
Speaker 1: get to go here. That's a lot. That's probably too many.
Speaker 1: It's still tough. Getting into eleven is tough because you
Speaker 1: gotta cut the Daniel Ross. You gotta cut maybe tackled,
Speaker 1: you gotta cut Jalen Jelks, you gotta cut. You gotta ask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, are they really gonna carry like four rookies
Speaker 1: on their defensive line. Yeah, that's something that I remember
Speaker 1: you and Rob were pointing out yesterday about the second
Speaker 1: team defensive line was all rookies all across the board,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't Tristan Hill, who was playing with the
Speaker 1: first team because Malik was out, but it was Jolkes
Speaker 1: and Joe Jackson and then the tackles were helped me here,
Speaker 1: why yeah sixty eight that guys like, no one's talking
Speaker 1: about Ricky Walker at all. For William, I don't, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he went to Tech. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with the defensive line. And we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: all right, linebackers, who's been the best player at linebacker? Mmmm.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to evaluate. I think I think
Speaker 1: and this, this is this kind of describes them to
Speaker 1: a t Like Jalen is the flashier. Jalen stands out
Speaker 1: the most. You can watch the games. Like I've said
Speaker 1: it before, like when he hits people, it looks different,
Speaker 1: like he's physical, he knocks people back, his dreads are flowing,
Speaker 1: and he looks just like the baddest mofa in the world.
Speaker 1: And then comes the celebration. But I think, and this
Speaker 1: isn't to say, this isn't to say Jalen's not good,
Speaker 1: but I think like Layton is quietly the better player
Speaker 1: and just quietly does freaky stuff like cover running backs
Speaker 1: in the open field and make tackles four yards short.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be. If he looked at the roster
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl and the All Pro Team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't so quiet. I mean, yeah, for Shore, the
Speaker 1: same thing. And I think people think that too. So
Speaker 1: he doesn't. No, Jalen doesn't. And let's be honest though,
Speaker 1: too he does some of those same things when he
Speaker 1: gets guys, they don't get extra yards. No, he is
Speaker 1: a he's a big guy, and he comes, he comes
Speaker 1: with the heat there and exactly like they're both super good.
Speaker 1: But I think I think Layton's entire body of work
Speaker 1: has been better over the course of camps. Chamber. I
Speaker 1: don't say like I sound hesitant when I say that,
Speaker 1: but that's how I feel. I agree with that. But
Speaker 1: I mean a guy that definitely called my eyes was
Speaker 1: fifty seven look good for? I mean, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: who's fifty seven over there? Huh? Makes play all he does?
Speaker 1: And I don't know what they're planning on doing with
Speaker 1: him after this injury that I mean, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: out at least a month, that's like at least four weeks,
Speaker 1: and what do you do with him? Because he has
Speaker 1: been pretty good this whole camp and he's made his
Speaker 1: name known. So all you all you need to know
Speaker 1: about him is that he's gonna make the team after
Speaker 1: getting hurt on August tenth, was it? Which I sort
Speaker 1: of suggested that to Jason Garrett the other day you
Speaker 1: got He got mad at me. He was like, I
Speaker 1: mean more or less. I was like, well, yeah, like
Speaker 1: a you're gonna put him on ir what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do with him? Like how are you gonna keep
Speaker 1: him here? And he was like, whoall, we're let's not
Speaker 1: get so far ahead of ourselves, like we got a
Speaker 1: lot of time left. I was like, okay, Jason, that's cool.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with him? Because he's on
Speaker 1: the team. It actually worked out perfect for him when
Speaker 1: you think about it, like he got a pick, he's
Speaker 1: been playing well, he got a pick, he made a tackle,
Speaker 1: he got hurt. He's done. He can't eve out, he can't,
Speaker 1: can't get anymore, can't truck, he can't, but I can
Speaker 1: bad play. He's done, Like his evaluation is done, and
Speaker 1: he's you know what I mean I said this on
Speaker 1: Monday though, is you can't I r him because it
Speaker 1: ends his season. So you're just stuck carrying a guy
Speaker 1: that can't practice and also can't help you get through
Speaker 1: these games. But he may the team do they actually
Speaker 1: need that this year though? That would be My thing
Speaker 1: is the likelihood where he is right now, even though
Speaker 1: he's had a good camp, the likelihood that he actually
Speaker 1: plays you other than special teams year is really really
Speaker 1: small him and in his season, like he can't practice
Speaker 1: for you. He get all that. In that, I get
Speaker 1: all that. My point is, if they're looking at it as, hey,
Speaker 1: we want this guy, it's more important for us to
Speaker 1: have this guy for next year. So retaining his rights
Speaker 1: is important to us because we may not have Sean,
Speaker 1: we may not have you know what, other other other
Speaker 1: other guys may be unavailable because they're free agents or whatever.
Speaker 1: The point is, they may look at it as we
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to play a ton this year.
Speaker 1: It's more important to keep his rights. Maybe, But also
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the coaches are like, when he gets healthy,
Speaker 1: which would probably be in October or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe September, we want him out there practicing and
Speaker 1: learning the defense. And I mean, you're not getting better
Speaker 1: by taking a year off of absolutely, but but we've
Speaker 1: seen him do this before. With we have with rookie.
Speaker 1: So but it happens, I think they will put him
Speaker 1: on IR on August thirty first. Yeah, that's what I think. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see all right, um, let's go and get the
Speaker 1: defensive actual quick before the end of the show. Who's
Speaker 1: been the best player out here at defensive back? Now
Speaker 1: that's tough. That is tough because you got two guys
Speaker 1: in Cheetos don't have time for that and Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: both of them have played I think, extremely well out here.
Speaker 1: If you had to catch one, who's been the best
Speaker 1: bed too, But he absolutely has very simple three Cheeto
Speaker 1: very very similarly to Jalen and Layton. Like Xavier, you know,
Speaker 1: safeties make the splash plays, they get picks, that's what
Speaker 1: you noticed. But Cheetos just out here covering everybody. He's
Speaker 1: like he and he actually he made a play yesterday
Speaker 1: that I think, I mean, picks are what you want.
Speaker 1: But it was almost as impressive as it was Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: He did the Byron like He literally just sort of
Speaker 1: positioned his body around the receiver, didn't touch him, and
Speaker 1: just poked the ball away. By the way, it was
Speaker 1: a whole crossing route which is the hardest time an
Speaker 1: in breaking route. He's just like, you're not going to
Speaker 1: catch that. Uh, and we've seen Byron that's Byron Jones's move,
Speaker 1: Like that's what he does and we haven't seen And
Speaker 1: that wasn't the first time we've seen Kito do that
Speaker 1: out here. He's done that. He like he's been the
Speaker 1: tough luck loser for the last two years where it's
Speaker 1: like his coverage was so good, but the guy still
Speaker 1: caught it. Like that hasn't been happening out here. You
Speaker 1: have an unbelievable coach. Yeah, he's just he's still good.
Speaker 1: He's making I mean, you talk about there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some good players cut and that might be your next Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is final question, my best player. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: so he talked about him, Jordan Lewis, Okay, why you
Speaker 1: guys talked about it at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: But to me, he's been the one player that literally
Speaker 1: every time I look up, I see twenty seven. Everywhere
Speaker 1: I looked, twenty seven, twenty seven, twenty seven, he's everywhere,
Speaker 1: And I mean there's no way that you cannot not
Speaker 1: notice him on the field. I will happily reiterate that
Speaker 1: I would like to have seen more consistency from Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott out here, But I think you have to give
Speaker 1: some of that credit to how well the dbs have played,
Speaker 1: Like some of that is the secondary being very good.
Speaker 1: Some of it, yep. So who's the odd man out,
Speaker 1: who's the best player at defensive back that's not going
Speaker 1: to make this team. I'm concerned about Cavan, definitely concerned
Speaker 1: about him. And he's a guy that has been playing
Speaker 1: for you and he's a veteran, But I don't know,
Speaker 1: things are not looking that great for him right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: Cavan's a good one and Donovan that would be the
Speaker 1: one I throw out if they don't find a way
Speaker 1: to keep him on this team. I think that's a miss.
Speaker 1: And because I think he is a really good player,
Speaker 1: and I think he's only going to get better and
Speaker 1: you're veteran, your most veteran player who's played the most.
Speaker 1: That won't make it, as I looka right, but I
Speaker 1: think that's I think we've all kind of seen it.
Speaker 1: When he got into camp and he's running with the
Speaker 1: third team, that's not a good sign for it. Would
Speaker 1: you be willing to pull hr various ward with a
Speaker 1: lumba and trade him for something else you might want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if I have to cut him and hope and
Speaker 1: hope I can get him on the practice, but I
Speaker 1: probably I wouldn't. The reason why is because right now
Speaker 1: I look at this, I look at him as next year.
Speaker 1: That's true. You have to think there are a lot
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams. I don't know about the
Speaker 1: quarterback position for next year. Yeah, I would. I would
Speaker 1: say that's a guy I think is up on the
Speaker 1: on the rise. I think he's it's necessary to keep
Speaker 1: him around. So I don't think. I don't think they
Speaker 1: can afford to let him leave. Can you keep Darien
Speaker 1: Thompson and C J. Goodwin? Because I mean special teams
Speaker 1: that on that that will probably that right there is
Speaker 1: like an indicator of how much sway keith ou. Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't they because Dearien Thompson is the best, He's the
Speaker 1: third best safety you got on this team, right And
Speaker 1: Goodwin is a special teams guy. He's hands down their best,
Speaker 1: hands not even close their best special so right, so
Speaker 1: you're really keeping a third safety that can play some
Speaker 1: special teams and then you're keeping a special team days. Right,
Speaker 1: But so all right Byron and going anywhere Cheeto Jordan
Speaker 1: ab all here assuming nothing crazy, like if they were
Speaker 1: to trade Jordan, but he's been so good, Why the
Speaker 1: hell would they do that? Uh, Mike Jackson just it
Speaker 1: seems No, Mike Jackson, I think is almost a lot.
Speaker 1: Is he better than a Loomba? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna let Alumba go and not keep him,
Speaker 1: keep him, you're talking. You're talking about the future here,
Speaker 1: right I am. I'm talking about the future. I still
Speaker 1: lean tour Mike Jackson, and I know he didn't play
Speaker 1: well in San Francisco. Alumba has played better than I
Speaker 1: would take a Loumba. I certainly would take a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That that's that's probably where it's
Speaker 1: gonna come. Those are gonna be the kind of things
Speaker 1: that you're gonna look for that when they release their
Speaker 1: final cuts, those will be some of the first names
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, is what happened? What did they do
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position? Because that's gonna be a tough cut.
Speaker 1: Draft picks have a pretty hefty track record here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they kept a Lumbo out around.
Speaker 1: I think they fifth round. They just always seem to
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah right, I mean, am I missing something?
Speaker 1: Fifth round? They cut Ryan Russell a few years ago,
Speaker 1: but that was it and okay, but Marinelli like cussed
Speaker 1: him out everything he was. Yeah, it was amazing how
Speaker 1: mean they were to him. All right, guys, we appreciate
Speaker 1: you joining us. It's been a great show. And then
Speaker 1: we have time for specialists and I think we kind
Speaker 1: of know how that's gonna work. I appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: joining us from out here at Oxnard for these last
Speaker 1: three and a half weeks. We'll be back into at
Speaker 1: the Star next week starting on Monday. Check this with
Speaker 1: a website for schedules. We'll let you know once we
Speaker 1: figure out the team schedule what our podcast schedule will be.
Speaker 1: Until then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I
Speaker 1: am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production
Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.