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Speaker 1: It is Whinesday. August fourteen, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number twenty seven. This is our last and final show

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Speaker 1: from out here in Oxnard, California. Better be good. You

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Speaker 1: better make it good, Derek, our last show here. Let's

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Speaker 1: great show. We got a great show lined up for

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Speaker 1: practice this afternoon at three thirty Pacific time. It will

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Speaker 1: This is with being our last show here at training

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Speaker 1: So let's start with a little bit of blanket coverage.

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Speaker 1: I have, actually the day, have four statements that I'm

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Speaker 1: It's time to go home. I can't even play along.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I am I'm not playing. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is definitely definitely time to go home after a fifteen game,

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Speaker 1: fifteen practices. This is true, Uh, contract years or a

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Speaker 1: players of training camp, and if Malie Collins is at

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Speaker 1: Amber you're convinced of this one thing after fifteen practices

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Speaker 1: they've got He's Jamie Shower's two point er. He's playing

426
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: special teams, he's playing wide receiver. He's hanging out with

427
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: John Kidnon every day, like you know, trying my best

428
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: to read the tea leaves. He strikes me as a

429
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: practice squad all the way, like he's gonna be here.

430
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't, and I mean, Cooper Rush probably will be too,

431
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: but he looks like Cooper Rush and Mike White has

432
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: obviously not had a great camp. So and what that

433
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: means is that that's a roster spot right there, because

434
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: Mike White has shown nothing right now to say that

435
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the team. You've got all

436
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: these other positions that you need to go a little

437
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: heavy on. Two quarterbacks, one on the practice squad. And

438
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, maybe Mike White could be

439
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yeah, he could be mean if

440
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 1: he would be wild if they had two quarterbacks on

441
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: the practice squad. True, but you know with him doing

442
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: some of these other yeah, I mean Taren Christian's not

443
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: really a quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I think this one's easier.

444
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: I think Cooper has been you know, he's he's actually

445
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: been improving a lot so and I think the most

446
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: surprising has probably been Mike White of just not being

447
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: as good as I thought he would be. He would

448
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: take that least, that's the odd been out in your

449
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: guy's opinion, What are you guys? I mean, Cooper has

450
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: been better than him, for sure, But has either of

451
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: them surprised me? I'm not surprised by any of them. Okay, okay,

452
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about the running back position. Who's

453
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: been the best player? Ah, yeah, it's Tony Pollard. It's

454
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. But like, I don't want to throw shade

455
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: at the guy, but it's a hard position to evaluate,

456
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is like who's running with

457
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: the ones? So like how much of that is just

458
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: by design of the coaching staff that Tony Pollard's getting

459
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: all that work? Like if Alfred Morris was getting all

460
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: of those reps, he'd probably be kicking ass. And he's

461
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: flashed since he got here. He's done a lot of

462
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: nice stuff. And and Darius Jackson has as well. Da

463
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: Derris Jackson hasn't looked bad Like he ran with the

464
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: ones for five days and then all like, for no

465
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: reason that I can decipher, they were just like, that's

466
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: enough out of you, Tony, get out there. It just

467
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: looked like to me, and that I threw that question

468
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: out mainly because I think we all agree Tony Pollard's

469
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: been the best. But I do think over this last

470
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: week of camp out here, I actually seen a little

471
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: bit more from Alfred Morris. It seems like he's kind

472
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: of you're seeing him make some move. I mean, he's

473
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: looked very pretty loose, which I didn't remember that being

474
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: necessarily a great part of his game. But he looks quick,

475
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: he looks bry. I actually think this last week he's

476
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: looked really really good, and that may be rounding into

477
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: like you were talking about with these VET guys, like

478
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: the beginning of camp in that important to them. It

479
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: starts once you start getting into those last couple of

480
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: weeks before the season starts when they have to start

481
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: really picking it up and getting themselves ready to go,

482
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: because that's really their target is the first game of

483
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, and I can and I think that

484
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: they're you can tell that they have a role for

485
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: Jama Zola Wally uh time and I'm here for it. Yeah.

486
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: And now he's not He's not your You're Darryl Johnston

487
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: or even Keith Smith by any means. He's not that

488
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: kind of fullback. He's a fullback that's gonna be swinging

489
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: out of the backfield for twenty five yards. He's a

490
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: fullback that can beat a linebacker down the field if

491
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: you give him the opportunity to do. Somebody told me

492
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: that he was one of the fastest players on the team,

493
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: not running back or fullback or whatever. One of the

494
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: fastest players. And he's a big guy. Yeah, he is

495
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: a big guest, but he when he gets out there,

496
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: he and not big, like like fat big. I'm talking

497
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: like big tall, and he's big guy, but he's not

498
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: a lead blocker type guy that's gonna blow you up.

499
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Zeke Morris, Pollard, Ola Wally. Assuming Zeke comes back, I

500
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: just so you're saying, odd man out at this point,

501
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: is everybody Howeber Weber, Darius Jackson, You guys think those

502
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: guys probably I mean, you know, find your way back

503
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: to the practice squad. Maybe, But like I'll put I'll

504
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: put a fiver down on Zeke Pollard, Alfred Morrison, Jama's Ola.

505
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: The likelihood is that they will have to. I would

506
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: assume there's going to be one of those guys that

507
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: at least will be on the roster when they make cuts,

508
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: because if Zeke's gonna show up, he probably doesn't show

509
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: up till the Tuesday of the first game. I would

510
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: suspect a Darius Jackson's probably not gonna This is not

511
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: gonna be great for him. He's already been one of

512
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: the had had a wild, crazy story. You know, it's

513
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: probably not over yet for him. But but that Morris

514
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: one's interesting because I say Zeke does come back, he

515
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: say signs a deal and all that. That's when I

516
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: wonder how much Morris is really going to be a

517
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: part of it. It's also fair because as the as

518
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: the veteran of the group, like, they have to guarantee

519
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: his salary if he's on the roster at the start

520
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: of the season. But it's not this ginormous salary that

521
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: I think that they'd be afraid to sign on to.

522
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: We know that they haven't already done that because I

523
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: don't feel like they've done something. I thought he got

524
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand dollars bonus to sign, but I'm not.

525
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a reason why they had to

526
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: sign him and say, you know, don't don't sign with

527
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,239
Speaker 1: the Saints, yeah, and sign here. So I think they

528
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: like the idea of having a well rounded veteran who

529
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: can step in if Seeks not available for whatever reason. Again,

530
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: there's three games to go and they're going to get

531
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Mike Weber can can actually

532
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: change a lot of our opinions. Jordan's Chunn can change

533
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: some opinions and cool thing. I think out of everybody,

534
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen flashes from everyone, including those

535
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: two that you just mentioned. The thing is we don't

536
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: get to see them getting much rep as opposed to

537
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: these other guys, so they don't have the chance to

538
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: maybe shine as much a thing. They all score, I

539
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: mean every single score. All of them have been good

540
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: out here, I think even I mean, yeah, Chun is

541
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: probably the one that gets lost in the shuffle the most,

542
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: but even he's been good. Ye all right, leton want

543
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: to the wide receiver position, who's been the best player

544
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: at training camp? My whole gallop ball in. I don't

545
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: want to say it, but yes, yes, sorry, he was

546
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: sort of rude to you one time, not just twice.

547
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Oh damn to the international fans. We don't mess and

548
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: messing around, you know what, don't mess around within go up,

549
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: get a toe touch touchdown like he did yesterday. You're

550
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna be as rude as you want. No, not true, no, no, no,

551
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: you can't walk around being rude to be all right,

552
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: all right, most improved or most surprising player at the

553
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver position, and this can be good or bad.

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: If there's a surprising player that you think you expected more,

555
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: you got Cop Randall, Cop I didn't. I obviously he

556
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: has experience and all that, but I wasn't expecting to

557
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: see him being so good out here and having that

558
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: connection with Dak as quickly as he's had it. So

559
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm honestly impressed with what he's been able to do,

560
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see it in the season and

561
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: how he's able to help the team. I said it

562
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: before I thought Tavon. I'm surprised that Tavon has has

563
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: been that productive and been as good as he has

564
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: been as a receiver um out here. But you know

565
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: they love John Vay too. Is that your guy? No,

566
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: I'll probably go with Tavon too, because everybody's trying to

567
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: get rid of him for more or less. I mean,

568
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: you signed Cobb, You're like, yeah, he's gonna be the

569
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: slot receiver. He you know, Aaron Rodgers, Pro Bowl, all

570
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: that good stuff, like you kind of penciled him on

571
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: the team immediately. Like Tavon. It's like, well, we can

572
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: get rid of this guy if we need to, and

573
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: he's out of here having a great camp. Once the

574
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: alarm went off. I really thought the alarm was going

575
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: to go off for him. You're talking about, Oh, I

576
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: don't remember. Oh, why do you bring that to the

577
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: seriously to say when the alarm went off, I thought

578
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: it was over for him. You're such like such an implier,

579
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, can't talk about what you're talking about. The

580
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: one thing, the one thing I'll throw out there about

581
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: particular about Randall Cop is I like what he brings

582
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: to the team. I like his veteran presence. I think

583
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good receiver for them. One thing

584
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: that I'm going to keep an eye on that I've

585
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: noticed out here. He's had a couple of days and

586
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: there's been that account in two different days where he

587
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: was dropping a lot of passes. One day he had

588
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: three drops, one day he had two, and they were

589
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: in every instance. There was a situation where he had

590
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: to extend a little bit, ball hit his hands and

591
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: just went straight through his hands. And that wasn't what

592
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: I thought I knew of Randall Cop. Obviously not watching

593
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: every Green Bay Packer game, I don't really know what

594
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: his history is with regards of drops, but I do

595
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: know that those two days happened and it put up

596
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: my antenna. So that's something I'm gonna be keeping an

597
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: eye on once we get into the regular season. Wide

598
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: receiver is so like running backs, hard to evaluate. Wide

599
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: receivers so easy to evaluate. Are you getting open or

600
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: you catching cans? Right? So for me to think you're

601
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: having a great camp as a receiver, you gotta bring

602
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: it and be awesome every day. And that's why I

603
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: go out of my way to sing gallops praises because

604
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: he has even you know, his drops have been one handed,

605
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, just crazy stuff where all these instances I'm

606
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: talking about, we're balls that were pretty readily catchable. There's

607
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He has been up and down,

608
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: Like he hasn't been terrible, but he's had at least

609
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: two or three pretty mad practices, and yesterday being one

610
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: of them. He I mean, he had to jump forward.

611
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a great ball, but it went right through

612
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: his two hands. Yeah, so he was trying. He was

613
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: still getting acclimated to all good and again, like I said,

614
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: he's had he's had way more better good days and

615
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: he's had bad days. But my point is, I just

616
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: that's something that piqued my interest because it seemed like

617
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: it happened in bunches. And that's where I'm gonna wonder,

618
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, do you get into the season and do

619
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: those games show up where it's a game or two

620
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: here and there, Yeah, where he's just kind of not

621
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: completely on on. He's not catching the ball like he

622
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: normally does. Something to watch you know, who arrows going up?

623
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Devin Smith? Yeah he is after we've showing up here.

624
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: We tried our best to bury him yesterday, but he

625
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: like he had another great day of practice. Is it

626
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: possible for him to get back into the mix to

627
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: make this team? I still it's hard. Yeah, something happens injuries, obviously, Yeah,

628
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I can remember. There's sorry, no, I'm go ahead. There's

629
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are gonna get cut from

630
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: other teams, and all of a sudden, then you look

631
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: at all these other receivers and you're like, it's one

632
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: of them better than than Devin Smith, you know, and yeah,

633
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna you know, that's probably gonna be the case.

634
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: But this, this, the back end of the depth chart,

635
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: is all about like what what can what all can

636
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: you do? How many ways can you help us? Can

637
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Speaker 1: you play all three positions? Can you play on special teams.

638
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Devin Smith, I just I don't know that he has

639
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: the versatility to fit that bill, especially if you have

640
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: Cobb and Tavon. I mean, he would have had to

641
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: have been better than Tavon, or Tavon would have to

642
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: be kind of like, you know what, we don't need

643
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: him right now. We got other guys that can do

644
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: that because they're smaller guys that can run. You know,

645
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: you got your big guy and Noel Brown who's gonna

646
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: be here much like jay Len Guyden. Most of the

647
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: good stuff we've seen from Devin Smith has him been

648
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: running in a straight line down the field like that's

649
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: what he does. He's really good at it. So's Jalen?

650
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Is that enough? When you're talking about the last position

651
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: on the receiver depth chart? I think they wanted Jalen

652
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: guyten to be like this because he's got the build

653
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: of I mean, he looks like Terrence Williams out there,

654
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: just size wise and Terry Glenn and all that. You know,

655
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: just kind of a big you know, he looks good

656
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: in the pads and all that. But he hasn't he

657
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: hasn't been like Dave said, he hasn't had been you know,

658
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: hasn't the light bulb hasn't come on, just so he

659
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: looked big. He is big. Who's the best player at

660
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position that won't make the team? Oh wow,

661
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: um oh oh. I'm not convinced John Vay is gonna

662
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: make the team yet. Reggie Davis. Reggie Davis. Yeah, he's

663
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: been pretty good. He's just gonna be on the outside.

664
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a good answer, all right,

665
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: It's more on the tight end position. Who's been the

666
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: best player? This is an interesting one because you could

667
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: probably make a case for two or three guys as

668
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: the best player we've been. Whitten went out there and

669
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: made that one handed grab yesterday, looking like Witten is

670
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: he's This is the last couple I don't know, maybe

671
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: three four last practices. I've been like he's every day

672
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: it seems like he's making a play. I'm like, yeah, okay,

673
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I want us all right, I'll say I mean everything.

674
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: All in all, it's still probably Witten, but Jarwin's the

675
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: most improved. Like I mean, I kind of again kind

676
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: of like Dorn's armstring. I came armstrong, I came out here,

677
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: like okay, Blake Jarwin, I I hear you. I know,

678
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: you caught three touchdowns, big whoop. But he's looked awesome

679
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: out here, I think camp. I think Whitten has been

680
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: the most surprising, honestly, just because it's close of who's

681
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, our expectations are up here or down here?

682
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know. With Whitten, it's weird. What are

683
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: your expectations? Is it a guy that's coming out of

684
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: football for years or the guy that's going to be

685
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I mean, so I didn't

686
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: know what to expect both, right, It's like and I

687
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: asked him that, you know, I did an interview with

688
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: him and it'll go up in a couple or tomorrow.

689
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, rest versus rusty. You know,

690
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: that's what we always talk about. It is there is

691
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: a rest gonna help you or is it are you're

692
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: gonna be rusty? And he said combination of both. Yeah. Um,

693
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: but I think he's been. He's been pretty good. And

694
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a it's a it's a one

695
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: A and one B. But Jarwin's gonna play more than

696
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: any tight end that's ever played with Witten before. I'm

697
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm starting to believe that Jarwin might actually have a

698
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: significant snap count, which you can. I mean, I've been

699
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: saying a whole year that I didn't think that would

700
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: be the case. Yeah, Amber, what are your thoughts too?

701
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, we went in his last year here. I

702
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: was starting to see a decline with him, um as

703
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: far as just seeing him slow, slowing down a little bit,

704
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, not moving as well as we're used to

705
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: seeing him move. And my expectations with him coming back

706
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: after a year being out it wasn't that high. You know.

707
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I wonder if how

708
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: old he's gonna look out there when you throw him

709
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: in the mix of all these younger guys, And no,

710
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: he's been able to keep up with everyone. He looks

711
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: even better than the last year that he was here.

712
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: As long as his helmet's on, he looks younger, looks amazing.

713
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: He looks younger than he did. When he takes his

714
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: helmet off, You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, changed got a

715
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: few less here. But with then Blake Jarwin, I really

716
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: like him too. He still needs to improve in the

717
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: blocking game, but as you know, last year when Swain

718
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: went out, he started improving with all the reps that

719
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: they were giving him. You started seeing him an incline

720
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: in progress, and I'm glad that he's been able to

721
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: carry that into this year and keep improving and he's

722
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: doing well. All right, um, let's move on. Let's talk

723
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. Who's been the best player at

724
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line? Tyron? Yeah, that's pretty easy, all right?

725
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: Who's been? You want to go second? All right, I'll

726
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: give you unto baby. Let's go third? Best ball, come

727
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: up a third best? Probably Lyle? Is that documentary coming up?

728
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: Put her on the spot? Look at her face? Snipe

729
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: fest between you two. I wasn't trying to put her

730
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: on the spot. Taking one takes a shot, then the

731
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: other takes a shot. What are we doing? More about promotion? Yeah, well,

732
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: if you want to promote one, there's one that's coming

733
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: out today to promote there's actually a deep Blue documentary

734
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: coming out in just a few hours call own it.

735
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Who's this guy on? Oh? J Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones. Yeah,

736
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: now that's coming out today at one o'clock Pacific three cluck. Guys.

737
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: You know what, there's been a you know, I know

738
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: that there's been a lot of stuff on Jerry Jones,

739
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, even the last couple of years with him

740
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame, a football life and

741
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Here are a lot of stories in

742
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: this documentary that that are a little bit different too.

743
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: And Stephen Jones told some really good stuff and brought

744
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: us has a story that's pretty funny there at the end.

745
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: So there there are some good, uh, some nuggets that

746
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: you have things that I don't think there were things

747
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I had. Probably a story you've heard better if Brian

748
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: told it. I bet I've heard it's cell phone story.

749
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's actually one. That's one good. Yeah, it's

750
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: it's in the cell phone, all right. So who's who

751
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: is the so we say most improved player is? Would

752
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: you say that's it's hard to think that anybody has

753
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: not been more improved than Connor from where he was

754
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: last year to where he is now. The way his

755
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: bodies build, his strength, his ability to play the position,

756
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: he is ten times better. That's another one that, like

757
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: I've said it about a million other guys though like it.

758
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: He has to play like that now. Like it's one

759
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: thing for us to rave about how he looks in camp,

760
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: but it's got to translate when it's freaking Fletcher Cocks.

761
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: On the other side, Well, what you love about it

762
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: is you see him up against these guys like MALIEK. Collins,

763
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: and when when he plants and he settles in, they

764
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: are not moving like that. He is stopping guys. No,

765
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: that's not what he was doing. Last year. Scott the

766
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: nutritionist and and Brett Besch, this strength and conditioning guy, like,

767
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: they gave him a binder in January and it was

768
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: called the Zach Martin How to guy eat this? How

769
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: you Martin do these drills? I mean it's something like

770
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he plays like Zach because nobody does,

771
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: but he looks exactly like yeah, and this he's even

772
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: growing like kind of a beard situation za yeah, yeah, yeah.

773
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: The left. The disappointing part of all that is that

774
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: he did he got that binder, and then he also

775
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: went to Connor McGovern and said, hey, come with me,

776
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: because we're gonna do this thing becomes zat if you

777
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: saw every day it was both of them, the two Connors,

778
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: out there doing stuff. And then in January or February,

779
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: hopefully Connor's going to go back to those guys and say,

780
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: all right, where's the tyrant Smith binder? Can that one? There?

781
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: You go? But but I it's been disappointing that the

782
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: peck injury has prevented Connor McGovern from doing anything that's

783
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: low key disappointing storyline of camp because but who knows

784
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: what he might have been able to do if he

785
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: was totally healthy. Something tells me that they they aren't.

786
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: They're not gonna keep ten linemen, and maybe they don't

787
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: even keep eight. You think seven? No, No, I mean

788
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: maybe they only keep eight. Eight was It's like you

789
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: can go back and look like they kind of stick

790
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: to a pattern, like for the longest time it was eight.

791
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: They've carried nine a couple of times, but like I

792
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: would say, in Garrett's tenure, they've carried eight way more

793
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: often than any of your three backups are going to

794
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: be looney. Yes, he's been really good. He's been good. McGovern, Fleming, Fleming,

795
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: get it's gotta have a tackle. Yeah, right, there's not

796
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: a better tackle backup tackle. So who that's my question.

797
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: You want to keep nine? You can't. I would too,

798
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if they're trying to figure out ways

799
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: to maybe not keep Fleming and I'm okay if you

800
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: want to trade, if you're trying to do a roster

801
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: cut trade, that's fine. So who becomes your your tackle

802
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: out here? Do you trust to be your swing tackle

803
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: right now? Right? Unless you want to use Connor Williams.

804
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm wondering. We just raved about, is

805
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: a right like that? Don't move him? If that's what

806
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: I think, Maybe they might do that. But he's exact.

807
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: But the issue maybe looney issue with tackle in practice yesterday,

808
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: he issue with that becomes then you're you're talking about

809
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: unless it's going to be Looney, you're talking about now

810
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: one position injury now affects two or three positions, and

811
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever a good Let me clarify,

812
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: Looney was jumbo like. He wasn't playing the right tackle.

813
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: He was in the jumbo package, which is different. Yes,

814
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: and he's been doing that. He's done that in the past.

815
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: That's really more of a tight end, is what that is?

816
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: Ye place to tight end? Yeah, I would be I

817
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: would be surprised if Fleming, So I would keep n

818
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: eye because I don't be shot. I don't know what

819
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I can get out of the government that would be

820
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: one of the most surprising cuts. I think you could

821
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: make it in my opinion, just knowing what else they have.

822
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: But if they didn't have Fleming on this team. I'm

823
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: telling though, I'm not cutting Suafilo at all. I don't

824
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: cut him all year because I really believe if you

825
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: don't sign lyle and you have to do something, maybe

826
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: when I move Connor out there. I mean, this is

827
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: a four fifth year guy, right he's in his fifth year,

828
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: sixth I think six the same draft class is Zach

829
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: I think, okay, I mean he's relatively young. I'm looking

830
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: at him here right here. I mean he's he's his

831
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: body looks a lot different than it than it did

832
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: like maybe six weeks ago, because he was banged up

833
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: a little bit in the offseason, didn't do a lot.

834
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: He you can just put him in regardless. I mean,

835
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: he's got that old man you know, Hawaiian strength or something.

836
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: I even know where he's from, man, oh man, He's

837
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: a lot of his families from Hawaiian. He's not remember

838
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: that time writing it right now. Oh, He's got a

839
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: lot of tickets he had to get for this game.

840
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: He's got like sixty people coming telling all right, let's

841
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: go and take our final break. We'll come back. We're

842
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna get into the defense to talk about some of

843
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: those positions. We'll do that when we come right back.

844
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Speaker 1: Today back to the break, Welcome back. It's the final

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Speaker 1: segment of the Great Blackamoxs dot California Cowboys are taking

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Speaker 1: the field right now. They're doing their little uh the

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Speaker 1: yoga session. Special teams walk through and yoga while Special

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Speaker 1: are confident that they've got a roster spot are over

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Speaker 1: here and the guys who are still working on it

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Speaker 1: are over there. Cody Wenchman. Right there. Oh he's hurt

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Speaker 1: right now, Kody Wenchman, all right, quite right there. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's jump back into I was just trying to make

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Speaker 1: a joke, sorry that you daved me right there, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, well, actually that's kind of true. Yeah, true.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the defense. Uh, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the defensive line. Who's been the best player on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line throughout training camp Mailie Collins. Yeah, yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's on I was like, looking down the line,

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Speaker 1: he has been the best defensive end Dorance Armstrong, carry Hyder?

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Speaker 1: Ok okay, maybe carry Hyder all right, imper sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I just love what he's done against the good players,

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Speaker 1: Like he's I mean, Lyle's been giving him, like they've

911
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: been going back and forth, but he's been giving Lyle fits.

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Speaker 1: He beat Tyron a few times, like he's not beaten

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Speaker 1: up on you know, the third and fourth string tackles.

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Speaker 1: He's playing well against the studs. Yeah. What Garrett always says,

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Speaker 1: as injury provides opportunity, and the fact that the d

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Speaker 1: Law and Quinn are now out and and you know,

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Speaker 1: at least for this time, and it's it's somebody has

918
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Speaker 1: to go up against Tyrant. You know, Tristan Ta He's

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Speaker 1: a troublemaker. Tristan do till do tell No. I'm just

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Speaker 1: still I was. I was looking through footage to put

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Speaker 1: together a little clip, and I run into several times

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Speaker 1: that he has tried to punch somebody like he He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be really good. I don't think we'll see much

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Speaker 1: this year, but next year, I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of the best here. He has that I don't

926
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Speaker 1: know edge to him, and he doesn't like being thrown around,

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Speaker 1: not that anybody does. But when he gets up, he

928
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: gets pissed. You know. He doesn't do the headshake like

929
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Speaker 1: some like get up and just shake their head and

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Speaker 1: walk off. He gets pissed. And and that's good for

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Speaker 1: what he's trying to do because that pushes him for

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Speaker 1: the next rep. He's going all out and giving everything

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Speaker 1: that he can. Exactly right about that. And somebody told

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Speaker 1: him a long time ago, don't get punked and whatever

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Speaker 1: it was, You're not gonna punk me. And so even

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Speaker 1: though it happens, you know, he has to go up

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Speaker 1: against the Zack Martins and Travis Fredericks and those in

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams, but you're not gonna do it twice, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and if you do then it will just fight

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Speaker 1: lost once. I mean, he's just he's and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like Connor Williams is if you talk to him

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Speaker 1: over here, at nice guy, but he's really nasty. He's

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Speaker 1: a nasty player, very nice off the field. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he's but several of those guys are Look at Joel Learney, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't you gotta be you gotta be

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Speaker 1: like that, you gotta be a bastard. For my favorite

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Speaker 1: player of all time for the Cowboys, Darren Woodson, was

948
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: exactly like that. He was a beast on the field,

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Speaker 1: get him off the field. Is the nicest, most articulate

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Speaker 1: guy you ever want to meet and spending half conversation with.

951
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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna play in the NFL, those guys

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Speaker 1: are meat on the field. I saw to be One

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Speaker 1: time Darren Woodson came off the field and cussed out

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Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, like right to his face, like

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Speaker 1: you know, this guy's sixty something. Your sold just cussed

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Speaker 1: him out, And I'm just like wow, And then the

957
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: game was always like yeah, probably yeah, talk Jason witten Man. Yeah,

958
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Speaker 1: gonna be savage on the field, jerk out there. It's awesome.

959
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a whole different thing. I was telling somebody

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Speaker 1: the first time I was ever on a sideline doing

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Speaker 1: an NFL game. Like the stuff you hear down there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it ain't men for kids, Like they're they're going at

963
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: each other physically, but they're also talking to each other

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Speaker 1: and the stuff they're saying, they're challenging, you're you know,

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Speaker 1: they're challenging each other. Yeah, mentally challenging each You know,

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Speaker 1: we always say that about people, whether or not they're

967
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Speaker 1: players or whatever, when they're when they're new that we

968
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: always make that statement, you don't know what you don't know.

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Speaker 1: And I think Tristan Hill's kind of it. That's, you know,

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00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what he doesn't know. You know. Charles

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Speaker 1: Haley comes to try to help him, and he's kind

972
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: of like a little stand office, you know, like what, no, No,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. You know, I'm Charles Haley. Hill might not register,

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Speaker 1: you know, admitted to the Hall of Fame and that

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Speaker 1: might not register yet either. No, he's just up. My

976
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: name's on the stadium, right, Yeah, A bet ring of

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Speaker 1: honor doesn't really, but it's okay, all right. Who's the

978
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: best player on the defensive line that will not make

979
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: this team? The odd man out? Daniel Ross. You don't

980
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: think Danie Ross makes it good. I can't get him

981
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: on the roster. It just depends on how many they keep,

982
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: and that it's hard. I mean, they've gone with as

983
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: few as eight in the past. I don't think that'll

984
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: happen this year, but they have. They've also carried as

985
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: met eleven. I'm gonna float a name out there that

986
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Speaker 1: Nick brought up in practice yesterday. Oh gosh, I was

987
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Speaker 1: just I know, it's just it really is. It's just

988
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: for conversation purposes, because I don't think I would be

989
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: absolutely shocked if it happens Tyrone Crawford. I would, yeah,

990
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. I'd be shocked. And you know,

991
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I just I just said it because I'm you know,

992
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: you're you're looking to see what you know, what they've got.

993
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Can you still be shocked though, with all the things

994
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: on this team? Yeah, yes, yeah, there's something that get right,

995
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of Bailey does Brian. That was shocking to

996
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: me expecting I hear what you're saying, but you make

997
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: good points. But if we don't get shocked, then it's

998
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: not fun. So let's get in a while, right uh Um?

999
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Speaker 1: I just you know, that's interesting. He's a captain, He's

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Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen. I'm not suggesting it

1001
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: or anything. I was just it was awful just looking

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00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: at it. It was just a conversation. Yeah, he's not here,

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Speaker 1: and and really, like what I don't know is what

1004
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: is he right now? That's what's the body hard part?

1005
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: Where do you got him a hard part? His body

1006
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: type is impressive. He looks yoked and haven't seen him play,

1007
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: But where are you gonna put him? Are you gonna

1008
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: put him at defensive And he's not starting at either

1009
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: defensive end or defensive tackle? So where does he play?

1010
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: Is he your guy that comes in on passing downs?

1011
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: He becomes your three technique on passing down? Big ask

1012
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: because he's not even off of pup. But he could

1013
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: be your starting defensive end week one. Robert Quinn's not here.

1014
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Good point. So I mean it all like the big

1015
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: question with him is his health and maybe he'll start

1016
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: the season on PUP. I mean at the way, the

1017
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: way it's trending right now, which, like I said, DeMarcus,

1018
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: we've sort of known this about DeMarcus since like April,

1019
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: right and we've like they've been saying. They said it

1020
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Speaker 1: at the draft, they said at OTAs mini camp. When

1021
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: we got here, they're like, he's working, he's fine, he's

1022
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: on target for week one. We haven't heard any of

1023
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: that stuff about Tyrone, So maybe we need to be

1024
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: digging around a little bit more and find out just

1025
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: what maybe the timetable might what their expectations are. I

1026
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: think that Taco Charlton will make this team and by

1027
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: week two or three, maybe cut or traded if he

1028
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: hasn't playing well, and whenever win Quinn comes back. And

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Speaker 1: I think, if you know you've got to make a

1030
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: move for somebody now, then again, somebody could get hurt

1031
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: in week one or two and that changes some things.

1032
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: But I think I feel like they're ready to call

1033
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: that a loss too. I feel like they would tell

1034
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: you that he's picked up his play here in the

1035
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Speaker 1: last few days week or so, and I honestly think

1036
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Speaker 1: that's gonna make them say we're gonna give him this year,

1037
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: this full year to see what he can do and

1038
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, then next year is the year

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Speaker 1: that he has out. I think he may have done

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Speaker 1: enough to at least peak their curiosity to say keep

1041
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: him around for another year. Personally, I think I think

1042
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Speaker 1: I can cut this roster down right now with a

1043
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: high with a high degree of accuracy. But I don't

1044
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: know what to do with the defensive line. It's like,

1045
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: it is hard. It is the toughest one to kind

1046
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: of try to figure out how they're feeling. Even if

1047
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: you do all the other ones first and you get

1048
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Speaker 1: to forty two and you're like, wow, I got eleven,

1049
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Speaker 1: get to go here. That's a lot. That's probably too many.

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Speaker 1: It's still tough. Getting into eleven is tough because you

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00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: gotta cut the Daniel Ross. You gotta cut maybe tackled,

1052
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: you gotta cut Jalen Jelks, you gotta cut. You gotta ask. Yeah,

1053
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: you're like, are they really gonna carry like four rookies

1054
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: on their defensive line. Yeah, that's something that I remember

1055
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: you and Rob were pointing out yesterday about the second

1056
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: team defensive line was all rookies all across the board,

1057
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: and it wasn't Tristan Hill, who was playing with the

1058
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: first team because Malik was out, but it was Jolkes

1059
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: and Joe Jackson and then the tackles were helped me here,

1060
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: why yeah sixty eight that guys like, no one's talking

1061
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: about Ricky Walker at all. For William, I don't, well, yeah,

1062
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: because he went to Tech. I don't know what to

1063
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: do with the defensive line. And we'll see, we'll see

1064
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: all right, linebackers, who's been the best player at linebacker? Mmmm.

1065
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to evaluate. I think I think

1066
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: and this, this is this kind of describes them to

1067
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: a t Like Jalen is the flashier. Jalen stands out

1068
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: the most. You can watch the games. Like I've said

1069
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: it before, like when he hits people, it looks different,

1070
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: like he's physical, he knocks people back, his dreads are flowing,

1071
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: and he looks just like the baddest mofa in the world.

1072
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: And then comes the celebration. But I think, and this

1073
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: isn't to say, this isn't to say Jalen's not good,

1074
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: but I think like Layton is quietly the better player

1075
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: and just quietly does freaky stuff like cover running backs

1076
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: in the open field and make tackles four yards short.

1077
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be. If he looked at the roster

1078
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl and the All Pro Team, Yeah,

1079
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't so quiet. I mean, yeah, for Shore, the

1080
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: same thing. And I think people think that too. So

1081
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't. No, Jalen doesn't. And let's be honest though,

1082
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: too he does some of those same things when he

1083
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: gets guys, they don't get extra yards. No, he is

1084
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: a he's a big guy, and he comes, he comes

1085
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: with the heat there and exactly like they're both super good.

1086
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: But I think I think Layton's entire body of work

1087
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: has been better over the course of camps. Chamber. I

1088
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: don't say like I sound hesitant when I say that,

1089
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: but that's how I feel. I agree with that. But

1090
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean a guy that definitely called my eyes was

1091
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: fifty seven look good for? I mean, I'm like, oh,

1092
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: who's fifty seven over there? Huh? Makes play all he does?

1093
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know what they're planning on doing with

1094
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: him after this injury that I mean, he's gonna be

1095
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: out at least a month, that's like at least four weeks,

1096
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: and what do you do with him? Because he has

1097
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: been pretty good this whole camp and he's made his

1098
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: name known. So all you all you need to know

1099
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: about him is that he's gonna make the team after

1100
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: getting hurt on August tenth, was it? Which I sort

1101
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: of suggested that to Jason Garrett the other day you

1102
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: got He got mad at me. He was like, I

1103
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: mean more or less. I was like, well, yeah, like

1104
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: a you're gonna put him on ir what are you

1105
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna do with him? Like how are you gonna keep

1106
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: him here? And he was like, whoall, we're let's not

1107
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: get so far ahead of ourselves, like we got a

1108
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: lot of time left. I was like, okay, Jason, that's cool.

1109
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with him? Because he's on

1110
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: the team. It actually worked out perfect for him when

1111
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: you think about it, like he got a pick, he's

1112
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: been playing well, he got a pick, he made a tackle,

1113
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: he got hurt. He's done. He can't eve out, he can't,

1114
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: can't get anymore, can't truck, he can't, but I can

1115
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: bad play. He's done, Like his evaluation is done, and

1116
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: he's you know what I mean I said this on

1117
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: Monday though, is you can't I r him because it

1118
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: ends his season. So you're just stuck carrying a guy

1119
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: that can't practice and also can't help you get through

1120
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: these games. But he may the team do they actually

1121
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: need that this year though? That would be My thing

1122
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: is the likelihood where he is right now, even though

1123
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: he's had a good camp, the likelihood that he actually

1124
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: plays you other than special teams year is really really

1125
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: small him and in his season, like he can't practice

1126
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: for you. He get all that. In that, I get

1127
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: all that. My point is, if they're looking at it as, hey,

1128
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: we want this guy, it's more important for us to

1129
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: have this guy for next year. So retaining his rights

1130
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: is important to us because we may not have Sean,

1131
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: we may not have you know what, other other other

1132
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: other guys may be unavailable because they're free agents or whatever.

1133
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: The point is, they may look at it as we

1134
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to play a ton this year.

1135
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: It's more important to keep his rights. Maybe, But also

1136
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the coaches are like, when he gets healthy,

1137
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: which would probably be in October or whatever it is,

1138
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe maybe September, we want him out there practicing and

1139
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: learning the defense. And I mean, you're not getting better

1140
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: by taking a year off of absolutely, but but we've

1141
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: seen him do this before. With we have with rookie.

1142
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: So but it happens, I think they will put him

1143
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: on IR on August thirty first. Yeah, that's what I think. Okay,

1144
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: we'll see all right, um, let's go and get the

1145
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: defensive actual quick before the end of the show. Who's

1146
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: been the best player out here at defensive back? Now

1147
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: that's tough. That is tough because you got two guys

1148
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: in Cheetos don't have time for that and Xavier Woods

1149
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: both of them have played I think, extremely well out here.

1150
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: If you had to catch one, who's been the best

1151
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: bed too, But he absolutely has very simple three Cheeto

1152
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: very very similarly to Jalen and Layton. Like Xavier, you know,

1153
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: safeties make the splash plays, they get picks, that's what

1154
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: you noticed. But Cheetos just out here covering everybody. He's

1155
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: like he and he actually he made a play yesterday

1156
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: that I think, I mean, picks are what you want.

1157
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: But it was almost as impressive as it was Byron Jones.

1158
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: He did the Byron like He literally just sort of

1159
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: positioned his body around the receiver, didn't touch him, and

1160
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: just poked the ball away. By the way, it was

1161
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: a whole crossing route which is the hardest time an

1162
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: in breaking route. He's just like, you're not going to

1163
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: catch that. Uh, and we've seen Byron that's Byron Jones's move,

1164
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: Like that's what he does and we haven't seen And

1165
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't the first time we've seen Kito do that

1166
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: out here. He's done that. He like he's been the

1167
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: tough luck loser for the last two years where it's

1168
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: like his coverage was so good, but the guy still

1169
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: caught it. Like that hasn't been happening out here. You

1170
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: have an unbelievable coach. Yeah, he's just he's still good.

1171
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: He's making I mean, you talk about there's gonna be

1172
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: some good players cut and that might be your next Yeah,

1173
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: that is final question, my best player. Yeah, I mean,

1174
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: so he talked about him, Jordan Lewis, Okay, why you

1175
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: guys talked about it at the beginning of the show.

1176
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: But to me, he's been the one player that literally

1177
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: every time I look up, I see twenty seven. Everywhere

1178
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: I looked, twenty seven, twenty seven, twenty seven, he's everywhere,

1179
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: And I mean there's no way that you cannot not

1180
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: notice him on the field. I will happily reiterate that

1181
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: I would like to have seen more consistency from Dak

1182
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: Prescott out here, But I think you have to give

1183
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: some of that credit to how well the dbs have played,

1184
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: Like some of that is the secondary being very good.

1185
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: Some of it, yep. So who's the odd man out,

1186
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: who's the best player at defensive back that's not going

1187
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: to make this team. I'm concerned about Cavan, definitely concerned

1188
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: about him. And he's a guy that has been playing

1189
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: for you and he's a veteran, But I don't know,

1190
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: things are not looking that great for him right now. Okay,

1191
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: Cavan's a good one and Donovan that would be the

1192
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: one I throw out if they don't find a way

1193
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: to keep him on this team. I think that's a miss.

1194
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: And because I think he is a really good player,

1195
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: and I think he's only going to get better and

1196
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: you're veteran, your most veteran player who's played the most.

1197
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: That won't make it, as I looka right, but I

1198
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: think that's I think we've all kind of seen it.

1199
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: When he got into camp and he's running with the

1200
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: third team, that's not a good sign for it. Would

1201
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: you be willing to pull hr various ward with a

1202
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: lumba and trade him for something else you might want. Yeah,

1203
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: because if I have to cut him and hope and

1204
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: hope I can get him on the practice, but I

1205
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: probably I wouldn't. The reason why is because right now

1206
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: I look at this, I look at him as next year.

1207
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: That's true. You have to think there are a lot

1208
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams. I don't know about the

1209
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: quarterback position for next year. Yeah, I would. I would

1210
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: say that's a guy I think is up on the

1211
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: on the rise. I think he's it's necessary to keep

1212
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: him around. So I don't think. I don't think they

1213
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: can afford to let him leave. Can you keep Darien

1214
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: Thompson and C J. Goodwin? Because I mean special teams

1215
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: that on that that will probably that right there is

1216
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: like an indicator of how much sway keith ou. Why

1217
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't they because Dearien Thompson is the best, He's the

1218
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: third best safety you got on this team, right And

1219
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: Goodwin is a special teams guy. He's hands down their best,

1220
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: hands not even close their best special so right, so

1221
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: you're really keeping a third safety that can play some

1222
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: special teams and then you're keeping a special team days. Right,

1223
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: But so all right Byron and going anywhere Cheeto Jordan

1224
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: ab all here assuming nothing crazy, like if they were

1225
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: to trade Jordan, but he's been so good, Why the

1226
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: hell would they do that? Uh, Mike Jackson just it

1227
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: seems No, Mike Jackson, I think is almost a lot.

1228
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: Is he better than a Loomba? No, I don't think so.

1229
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: If you're gonna let Alumba go and not keep him,

1230
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: keep him, you're talking. You're talking about the future here,

1231
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: right I am. I'm talking about the future. I still

1232
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: lean tour Mike Jackson, and I know he didn't play

1233
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: well in San Francisco. Alumba has played better than I

1234
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: would take a Loumba. I certainly would take a lot.

1235
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That that's that's probably where it's

1236
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 1: gonna come. Those are gonna be the kind of things

1237
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: that you're gonna look for that when they release their

1238
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: final cuts, those will be some of the first names

1239
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, is what happened? What did they do

1240
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position? Because that's gonna be a tough cut.

1241
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: Draft picks have a pretty hefty track record here. Yeah,

1242
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they kept a Lumbo out around.

1243
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: I think they fifth round. They just always seem to

1244
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah right, I mean, am I missing something?

1245
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: Fifth round? They cut Ryan Russell a few years ago,

1246
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: but that was it and okay, but Marinelli like cussed

1247
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: him out everything he was. Yeah, it was amazing how

1248
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: mean they were to him. All right, guys, we appreciate

1249
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: you joining us. It's been a great show. And then

1250
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: we have time for specialists and I think we kind

1251
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: of know how that's gonna work. I appreciate you guys

1252
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: joining us from out here at Oxnard for these last

1253
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: three and a half weeks. We'll be back into at

1254
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: the Star next week starting on Monday. Check this with

1255
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: a website for schedules. We'll let you know once we

1256
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: figure out the team schedule what our podcast schedule will be.

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Speaker 1: Until then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I

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Speaker 1: am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on

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