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Speaker 1: From the Toyota Patio here at SOFI Stadium side of

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Speaker 1: this week fifteen show down between the Detroit Lions and

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Speaker 1: your Los Angeles Rams. Welcome to a new episode of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers.

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Speaker 1: I'm JB. Long with my buddies Maurice Jones, Drew and

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Speaker 1: DeMarco Farr. Four games to go, the Rams control their

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Speaker 1: destiny in the NFC West and atop the NFC standings.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is this is the good stuff. I can't

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Speaker 1: look at him right now. If he brings up standings,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking off the show. Really, Detroit, Detroit, Detroit.

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Speaker 2: I feel the same way. I feel the exact same way.

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Speaker 3: We had a conversation before you got here, and now

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Speaker 3: we're gonna dive into that. But the first thing that

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Speaker 3: that's made me feel good, got me all excited, was

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Speaker 3: control your own destiny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I like.

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Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want anyone else to have

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Speaker 3: any control of what I'm doing. When I look at

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Speaker 3: all these scenarios, ir mouse to Marco, it says Rams

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Speaker 3: can clench with a win, not with the win plus

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Speaker 3: this or plus that. No we can control everything that

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Speaker 3: we need to control, and that, to me is the

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Speaker 3: most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Is how about control the Lions? How about clinch That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, how about clinch penny sewell and

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Speaker 2: get off and make a play. How about that? They're

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Speaker 2: pretty good? Yeah, take two.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a week fifteen edition of Between the Horns

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Speaker 1: present about your Southern California toy dealers. With a win

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Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions here at SOFI Stadium this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: your Rams can clinch a playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He did it again. There you go. Look, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be tough, it's gonna be fun, But this is what

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Speaker 2: you've been building for. When you think about it, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the NBA has an nd season tournament. You

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Speaker 2: might as well call this an n season tournament that

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Speaker 2: the next two weeks will determine pretty much everything, not

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Speaker 2: just for you, but for the rest of the league.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad it's Detroit and then followed by that

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Speaker 2: next team. But it's tough. Your focus has to be

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Speaker 2: on football. Your focus has to be on you and

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Speaker 2: what you guys do, forget about the opponent. But this

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Speaker 2: is a fun time of year to be a Rans fan.

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Speaker 1: It's like a dress rehearsal for January.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this Sunday's game is like a divisional round

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Speaker 1: contest that you earn the right to host, and we

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Speaker 1: don't want to have to go on the road for

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Speaker 1: the NFC championship game. But like ram Seahawks right now

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Speaker 1: projects as the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: So I completely agree.

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Speaker 3: And when you the funny part is when you look

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Speaker 3: at what Detroit does and how they play on both

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Speaker 3: which the playoffs are always going to be right and

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Speaker 3: demarc you talked about being built for it, Detroit is

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Speaker 3: banged up on the defensive side.

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Speaker 2: They have tight end issues.

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Speaker 3: This is a great opportunity for you to go out

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Speaker 3: And I listen, at the end of the day, if

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Speaker 3: you if you play well in this matchup, I think

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Speaker 3: comes Thursday, because this is going to be a great

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Speaker 3: setup for Thursday. Very similar team that wants to run

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Speaker 3: the football, very explosive receivers, physical defense, right, and so

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Speaker 3: it's just every game from here on out is going

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Speaker 1: You know, another way it's like a playoff game, is

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Speaker 1: Detroit is desperate. I mean, this is not a nation

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, how many times have we gone to Detroit

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I remember the last one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember they hit on Stafford that wasn't called

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Speaker 3: But this is a you want to play football, let's play.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what the mantra is going to

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Speaker 3: take for granted the privilege of playing meaningful football in December,

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Speaker 3: and we mentioned it going off the air in Arizona. Right,

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Speaker 3: seventh ten win season in nine years on the job

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Speaker 3: for Sean mcfaith. They're on the verge of clinching a

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Speaker 3: playoff spot for this seventh time. The challenge this year

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Speaker 3: was to get more explosive in the running game. Right,

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Speaker 3: you wake up here in mid December and you've got

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Speaker 3: much good and we don't know where it goes from here.

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Speaker 3: You can't always, you know, dictate the outcomes in January.

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Speaker 3: But my goodness, everything the Rams did this offseason to

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Speaker 1: Now go cash it in.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Also, let's talk about getting wins early, right, starting faster.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a big one. Stacking wins, Like

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Speaker 3: if you start slow like last year, you're not in

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Speaker 3: this predicament you maybe where the Lions are trying to

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: You've done a great job of getting some tough wins early.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about it again the Colts for example.

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Speaker 3: Imagine like we played the Colts when they were at

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Speaker 3: to figure their way out. Like so, you've played some

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Speaker 3: really meaningful football early in the year, and you've played

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Speaker 3: the broadcast that the Rams have been in had a

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Speaker 3: every game we've played, we've had a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals, but they lost every single game they were

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Speaker 2: they lost. But you're gonna make me knock on some wood, man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we're talking about stuff that haven't

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Speaker 2: the inclusion of these tight ends, which changes so much.

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Speaker 2: This was the first game. Just going back to Arizona

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Speaker 2: wasn't a factor. I mean, when you put those three

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Speaker 2: it takes away the advantage for him. So there's so

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Speaker 2: much more to this offense. It has expanded. And like

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Speaker 2: to Sean McVay. He went right to DeVante Adams and

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Speaker 2: Their eyes all go to him, and the ball laces

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Speaker 2: and they're so I guess multiple it really on offense,

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Speaker 2: with Detroit is Detroit can score with anybody. Yes, this

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Speaker 2: what's behind you. Because Jared Goff knows where the end

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Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a fun, fun game, and

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Speaker 1: Let's start there. You see this as a shootout.

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Speaker 2: I do, I do. It just depends on what Detroit brings. Defensively.

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Speaker 2: They're so banged up, but you go back and look

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Speaker 3: I will say this, this is gonna be the fastest

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Speaker 3: Right with the speed of Jamison Williams and Jamiir Gibbs,

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Speaker 3: Forced Jared to throw outside that the numbers, that's like

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Speaker 3: that's always been the game plan. Like, don't don't let

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Speaker 3: You got to force them to run inside. You have

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Speaker 3: beating the Detroit Lions. The teams that have beating them,

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Speaker 3: that's what they've done, right, They forced these guys have

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Speaker 1: And so I would just add interior pressure, which is

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, interior pressure for sure. But offensively, I just

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Speaker 3: see the Rams. If you just run, if you execute,

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Speaker 1: Let me come back to that. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: contending with maybe the only other offense that's got as

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Speaker 1: much octane as you do. Right now, Okay, Defending the

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Speaker 2: This week is the one that you stay up all

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Speaker 2: So destroy blocks. Yes, that's that's number one with Chris Shula.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because I remember talking this

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Speaker 2: So it's so funny when you watch him so first

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Speaker 2: Levi Stadium. I mean, this dude will just wreck shop

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Speaker 3: So this is this is I went back and watched

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Speaker 3: In the running game. They were like, like, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: it was like, we're not rushing, We're not rushing on

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Speaker 3: they just dismantled them on It was it was a

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Speaker 3: That's what's going to be important in this game.

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Speaker 1: What element does this play in the matchup? This is

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Speaker 1: the past few iterations because they've only got one roster

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Speaker 1: tight end right now. Anthony Ferkser is the only guy

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Speaker 1: they may add and supplement by Sunday. They do play

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Speaker 1: no Brock Right. They've got the portfolio of receivers though,

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Speaker 1: And so if I'm a Rams fan saying I don't

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Speaker 2: What say you, you know I have confidence in em

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Speaker 2: you know how to play corner in this league with

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff loves a collapsing pocket. He hates it right,

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Speaker 2: So if you collapse the pocket, if you get around him,

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Speaker 2: That would be my thing. Get incrementally closer to whoever

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Speaker 2: get tired, and they get beat up. So keep trying

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Speaker 3: Would say, I would say for the DBS, it's less

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Speaker 3: because that's where their Lions beat you. They're gonna throw

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Speaker 3: That's like they're now putting him out at wide receiver motion,

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do if I had a lack

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Speaker 1: That way, I would just daydreaming about if I could

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Speaker 2: Yeah this game, Yeah, like the modern day game. That's all.

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Speaker 2: This is a modern day I'm a ros Saint rovers

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Speaker 1: Same guy the one they got right now, and Jayson's

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Speaker 1: So the offense for the Lions right there with the

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Speaker 2: They're susceptible. They're banged up, but Godly hutch And is

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Speaker 2: And that's what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna play press man and They're gonna try to

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Speaker 2: That's their game.

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Speaker 1: They still play man this week, even as they are.

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Speaker 3: They they did they That's who they are, That's who

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Speaker 3: that's why play action passing will be so important, right

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Speaker 2: You have to do what you've done.

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Speaker 2: which is get after you and try to be man coverage.

437
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,520
Speaker 2: Once you start losing to Puka and they start making

438
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 2: you pay and Davante and things are moving, I think

439
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,680
Speaker 2: they'll do what the Cardinals did. They'll drop seven, back

440
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,920
Speaker 2: off and force you to be patient and hope mat

441
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is greedy that day. You think that's gonna happen?

442
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Speaker 2: Have you do? You know who their head coach is

443
00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to know, what I mean, if you're

444
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,960
Speaker 2: getting beat, if you're good, they do that again, Dallas,

445
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to I think, Yeah, I don't know.

446
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Speaker 1: The Rams have a pretty demonstrated ability and willingness to

447
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,400
Speaker 1: mash you at the running game too, if you want

448
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,880
Speaker 1: to play light you.

449
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Speaker 3: When you watch the Lions, like against the Cowboys, they

450
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,639
Speaker 3: were like, oh, we know Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens,

451
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,959
Speaker 3: they're gonna get theirs, but we're okay with that. We're

452
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,439
Speaker 3: gonna still continue to get after you and blitz and

453
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,199
Speaker 3: do different things. So I just if you watch the

454
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 3: tape and see how they play, it's just they're gonna

455
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 3: be aggressive. That's what they That's who they always been, right, Like, right,

456
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 3: you can't change who you are two years ago. You

457
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 3: were in the NFC Championship game, right, and so it's

458
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 3: like that's what that's what we were to get there.

459
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,399
Speaker 3: Like I expect Dan Campbell to go for it on

460
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Speaker 3: fourth down. He will every time.

461
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 2: I hope you're aggressive on defense when you're short handed,

462
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 2: that's gonna be fun.

463
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: They're in an incredible fourth down drought right now, though,

464
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: So that's one of the weird things about looking at

465
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 1: and scouting this Detroit team is they they're still trying

466
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Speaker 1: to be who they've always been. But you can see

467
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 1: why they're on the outside of the playoff picture looking

468
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: in right now because it has not gone their way.

469
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Speaker 3: And that's the part of being aggressive, right. When you're aggressive,

470
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 3: you have to live and die with it, Right, There's

471
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Speaker 3: gonna be times when you're gonna be twelve of twelve

472
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Speaker 3: on fourth down or eleven of twelve on fourth down

473
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Speaker 3: right now, where they like, oh of eight right on

474
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Speaker 3: fourth down in the last what three or four weeks, yep,

475
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Speaker 3: And that's they lose to Philly in Philly because they

476
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Speaker 3: didn't take a field goal. They went for a touchdown

477
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Speaker 3: on like a fourth and two from the three or

478
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Speaker 3: whatever it might have been, and they didn't get it.

479
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Speaker 3: And that field goal they would have had would have

480
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 3: made that game a one score game. They could have

481
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,439
Speaker 3: went down and scored late, right, but otherwise they got

482
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 3: a PI. But like, when you're aggressive, if that's who

483
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 3: you are, if that's your DNA, you have to say

484
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 3: you have to stay with that. And that's why I

485
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Speaker 3: believe defensively, yeah, that's what they're gonna be. They're gonna

486
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Speaker 3: be an aggressive defense. They're gonna hold and they're gonna

487
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 3: try to whatever they can to get Hutcheson a chance

488
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Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback.

489
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Speaker 2: And he's gonna get there. If you getting those obvious

490
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: passing downs, you respect him. He is a great pass rusher.

491
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Speaker 1: But nobody's been better at staying out of those obvious

492
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Speaker 1: passing downs save for one game, save for one game

493
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Speaker 1: that was against Seattle, than the Los Angeles Rams. And

494
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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of maybe time to take a

495
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: deep dive on the state of this running game. We

496
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Speaker 1: talked about it off the top. This is as good

497
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: as it's been since probably twenty eighteen for the Rams

498
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: rushing attack. The offensive line is winning, they're getting removal,

499
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Speaker 1: and you've got two backs basically taking a fifty to

500
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Speaker 1: fifty split.

501
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Speaker 2: Now I'm Jay and tight ends and tight ends if

502
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Speaker 2: help the running game big time, good good, big a

503
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Speaker 2: bag time. So it's funny bringing up the Buddha Baker thing.

504
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: H t Ferg got himself a pancake on Buddha Baker

505
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: frame that that's awesome. Colby Parkinson has assumed that inline

506
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 2: tight end role and he's been blocking well Davis Allen

507
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 2: got a few pancakes in there, plus the old line

508
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: have They've done a good job of sifting through and

509
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: getting the right guy and giving these running backs a

510
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 2: chance to be successful. But you know, Kyen Williams is Kiren.

511
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't trust any running back more than

512
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Speaker 2: him for a complete down running back or an all

513
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Speaker 2: three down. But Blake Korm is on one right now.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah he is. See look at that face. He knows

515
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: what he is on one right now, and I would

516
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Speaker 2: I would ride that, but you have to be you

517
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 2: have to massage that out, not to mess it up.

518
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: To see what I mean, See he's on one right now.

519
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: Go ahead and ask the question, JB. I'm looking at

520
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: it from a defensive perspective. Nobody wants to hit that

521
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: guy asking question, JB. It's December.

522
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Speaker 1: Are you start him? Are you giving them more carries?

523
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm going to continue to be fifty to fifty

524
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Speaker 3: because again, you have to I don't think Karen Loss

525
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Speaker 3: is starting job. I think Blake Korm has done an

526
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: awesome job with his opportunities, and I think that with

527
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Speaker 3: this fifty to fifty split, it's important to keep that

528
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Speaker 3: going because that's going to run you through the playoffs, right,

529
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 3: And so when you're sitting here in this situation, you

530
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Speaker 3: still you still ask Blake Korman And I told Jamie

531
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Speaker 3: this before the show, like if that forty yard runs

532
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Speaker 3: not there, it's the same guy. That's the difference. That

533
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: forty yard run made that big of a difference. They

534
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: have the same numbers, similar numbers. They both scored a touchdown,

535
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Speaker 3: Like you're good, right that forty yard numbers just it's like,

536
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: oh right, he broke in. It was wide open. But

537
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Speaker 3: that was late in the game. I think I felt like,

538
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: you know, Cardinals were gone. They kind of was like

539
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 3: all right, where we had enough, right, Like let's go,

540
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: let's go home. But what I will say is the

541
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Speaker 3: play action, pass, the running game all looks the same.

542
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: The drop back, it all looks the same. So you

543
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: don't have a beat on what's going on.

544
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Speaker 1: I give Stafford so much credit for that. Yeah, the

545
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: way he's been willing to play this season. I think

546
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this with him before, Like he probably

547
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 1: prefers the shotgun or at least the pistol, but like

548
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: the under center rates and the amount of play action

549
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Speaker 1: that he's thriving on if you're gonna get man from

550
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: Detroit like you said, and they will and they're susceptible

551
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Speaker 1: to play action. This is a good matchup for the

552
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Speaker 1: Rams offense.

553
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: But going to the running game, for whatever reason, defensive

554
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: defensive coaches think man stops the run. No, all have

555
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: to do is break one tackle the guy that's covered

556
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: me and I can go the distance.

557
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: And that's where Blake Korm comes in. Right after Kiren's

558
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 2: warmed down, We're hits you with play action pass. We're

559
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: all over the field.

560
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: We got you running, and then boof, we have just

561
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: a duo play that goes to the house because the

562
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: guy is out of his gap right and you have

563
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 3: that distance. And so when you can do all the

564
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: things that we've talked about from the screen game that

565
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: we've seen come back in to play with the tight ends,

566
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: the tight ends catching the ball, the receivers catching the ball,

567
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: the running backs on the checkdowns, the running game, the

568
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: play action pass, have one eye violation and man to

569
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Speaker 3: man and see what happens. Like it's over, it's a touchdown.

570
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: And so I just think everything is starting to come everything,

571
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: everything that we thought a couple of years ago when

572
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 3: you drafted Kyra in when you were going in this route.

573
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Speaker 3: All the thirteen personnel coming this year, it's all for

574
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Speaker 3: games like this one. Oh yeah, because this game is

575
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: gonna be one of those, you know, double chin shraft

576
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: type of games.

577
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Speaker 1: Adan Hutchinson's a guy you don't want to beat you

578
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: on Sunday. How do you take him out of the

579
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: game plan.

580
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: Same way you take Byron Young and Jared Verse out.

581
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: You get the ball out fast, and you run the

582
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: ball and you stay out a third long. But I mean,

583
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. And I mean, they're they're gonna make

584
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: plays Azelonis around forever. Yever, he's smart too, so they're

585
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: gonna make plays on you. But I mean, and I

586
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: hope that conversation wasn't so tough with Matthew Stafford about

587
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: being under center. This will help you, This will protect you.

588
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: This will make it so you can open up and

589
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: go to shotgun and fillay the field, you know what

590
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: I mean, and not get hit so much.

591
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Speaker 1: If you want to collect checks to forty boom, let's

592
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: get you there that hard.

593
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: But man coverage versus the run. Uh, the reason defenses

594
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: do that, the reasons we did that when I was

595
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: playing was it just gets you closer to the blocker,

596
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, You're not off he he

597
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: doesn't have a dead run, and then you have to

598
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: make up that space. You are right there in his face,

599
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: so when he engages you, you can lock up and

600
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: go make a play. So it's not an end all

601
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: cure all for the run game. It just helps you

602
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: a little bit. We used to love that in Jack. Absolutely, yeah,

603
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: come on, come on, come on, this is what we need.

604
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: The problem is is you think it's run and it's not. Yeah,

605
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: and that's what the problem.

606
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Speaker 1: And then in the passing game, DeVante is killing man

607
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: end zone. Yes, but to always have a quick answer

608
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: to Man because he can win from any position.

609
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: Well that that goes back to last year and and Detroit, right,

610
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: who is that no one could win off of Man

611
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: that quickly? Right? And so the release of Devonte Adams

612
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: makes it like, oh, oh, you want to play this

613
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: man game. Everybody on the right, Davante on the left.

614
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: You rolled whatever roud you want to run.

615
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Speaker 1: He will also mentioned a name earlier that I want

616
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: to circle back to, which is Terrence Ferguson, and I

617
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: think probably his subtle improvement in competing without the ball

618
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: in his hands is why he continues to get more opportunities.

619
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Speaker 1: But when I think about playing a press man opponent

620
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: man across the board, he's the weapon that he might

621
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Speaker 1: need to make a big third down catcher. Two on Sunday,

622
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Speaker 1: Terrence Ferguson, we who's.

623
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Speaker 2: Going to cover him?

624
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Speaker 3: I mean they when they come out in thirteen personnel

625
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: and they're in an ace formation and Terrence Ferguson is

626
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Speaker 3: the wide receiver, who are you going to have cover him?

627
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 3: Both of those dbs for Detroit aren't the biggest guys, right.

628
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: I want to say Roberson is what five nine? And

629
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Speaker 3: I think rock you Sin is what six foot maybe?

630
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Speaker 3: And that's a that's a that's a six to six

631
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Speaker 3: tight end that you're gonna have cover. Like to me,

632
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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that, Like give me that.

633
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: Film. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I mean. You're gonna catch

634
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: them slipping every now and then. Just be accurate.

635
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Anything else on the offensive side against the lines deep.

636
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: We have to talk about their version of Landman Jack Campbell.

637
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my god, mister punch out, miss mister punch out.

638
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: When he punched the tight end from from Dallas. I

639
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: thought that was as salt. His knee was down. He

640
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: didn't have to hit him like that. Ball popped right out.

641
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: So you got to make sure you have ball security

642
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: in this situation too, because they have a guy that

643
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: does the same thing that your guy can do.

644
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: It sounds like you guys are both talking around the

645
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: point that the defenses don't need to pitch a shutout

646
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: in this game. Who can win an extra possession for

647
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: their quarterback and their offense might come out of here victorious.

648
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think, like I said, if you the closer

649
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 2: you get to Jared and the more you speed him

650
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: up and the tighter you get coverage, wise you may

651
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Speaker 2: run into one and in the run game, just keep

652
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: trying to swipe at it. You never know when the

653
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: ball's coming out. And shout out to Kiren. And I

654
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: didn't say I didn't want to, you know, say Stark Korum,

655
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: I just like the competition. Shout out to Kiren with

656
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 2: ball security around the goal line. We see that he

657
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 2: almost They grabbed the football on him and he held

658
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: it so tight they whipped him around. Yeah yeah you

659
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: saw that right, Yeah, ultra important. So I mean running

660
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: the ball's great ball security. More important, they've done a

661
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: great job, all right.

662
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: I got to circle back and apologize to MJD. Last

663
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: week on this show, I said, I don't know if

664
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: you really want the Packers to beat the Bears, and

665
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I still think that argument holds. We'll see how it

666
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: finishes down the stretch. But your contention was just get

667
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: the Rams in control of their playoff faight right, which

668
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: is what they have now. And then this week when

669
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: headlines circulate that a grandfather is going to be playing

670
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: quarterback against the Seahawks and the Rams the next couple

671
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: of weeks, it said, Okay, I could see why MJD

672
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: just wanted control, because who knows what can happen with

673
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: the Colts, and you know, the Seahawks, and this league

674
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: is within San Francisco going to Indy next.

675
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: This league is weird.

676
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: I just I don't think I've ever seen a season

677
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: like this season, but I've seen others where it's like, oh, yeah,

678
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: this team is really good and then like Peyton Manning's

679
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: neck like falls apart, and then all of a sudden,

680
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: the Colts is like you may want these things. As

681
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: that happened, it's always best to have to control your

682
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: own destiny, though, Like I would hate to be the

683
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Cowboys right now. I would hate to be the Cowboys.

684
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: The Cowboys need all this help for them to go,

685
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: and then the Colts get hurt.

686
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: It's like the football guys don't love you as much.

687
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: Does Philip Rivers have any chance at forty five?

688
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Come on, old Sam, you got it? Yes, sir, who

689
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: knows more football than Philip Rivers? Right now? Come on

690
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: off the couch, Marco and beat Seattle? Yes, come on, Philip,

691
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: I got you.

692
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: Joe Flack right with you thirty nine and he was

693
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: off the He was on the couch for like six months.

694
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: My dog has been on the couch for five years.

695
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: He was about to go into the Hall of Fame?

696
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Like I told you, I believe, deep

697
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: down inside I can go out there and give you

698
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: a hundred easy.

699
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: I believe. It doesn't mean my body can do.

700
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's true.

701
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's true just because I believe. Because

702
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: there's the everyone's delusion on their own right, And I

703
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: know Philip Rivers is probably out there a practice throwing

704
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: the ball, doing all this trying to be all good or.

705
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: Give me one more opportunity here is no you did it.

706
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: You did it. That was different, though that was different.

707
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: Those are a whole different reason. Yeah, I just wanted

708
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: to hit Mike Martz, but that's all different too.

709
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: You know the value of being the one seed not

710
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: just the buy and the home rights throughout the playoff,

711
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: but when you look at the current picture, you would

712
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: be set up to face the winner of Tampa Bay

713
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: or Seattle, which if the Rams are the one seed,

714
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: maybe that becomes Tampa Bay or San Francisco or Carolina

715
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: or San Francisco. Like, that's a pretty good pathway. That's

716
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: what We've already played Tampa Bay here at SOFI Stadium.

717
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: We know what that looks like. Rams have already beaten

718
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Seattle here at Sofi Stadium. They know what Sam Darnold

719
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: against this crowd looks like. I think those are prizes

720
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: worth fighting for. And not that anyone's disagreeing with that,

721
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: But this Sunday can clinch a playoff spot next Thursday,

722
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: can put you in the driver's seat for all your

723
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: big goals.

724
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: Don't shy away from it. This is what you want, right,

725
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: this is what you build for. Absolutely, there's no shame

726
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: in talking about it, it's not I mean, cats out

727
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: of the bag. Now you know what's happening, and we

728
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: both all we all feel the same way about this.

729
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: If we're driving cross country, I want to make sure

730
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 2: I'm driving because I know what we're gonna get there,

731
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: that type of stuff. I trust me, I trust me,

732
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: and I would I hope this RAMS group trusts themselves

733
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: enough to put themselves in position to be great. If

734
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: you go back and look at just the last two weeks, Carolina,

735
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: how would you describe that environment and that game, Yeah,

736
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: wet nuggie. Then you go to Arizona, where everything's perfect,

737
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: you get a completely different, nine, completely different result. You

738
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: you almost run Arizona out of their own building.

739
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: So, oh, I see where you're going with this equation.

740
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Correct. If anything screams, if we want to get to

741
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: where we want to get to and everything every team

742
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: talks about that, then what you need to do is

743
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: keep it right here. And you got two weeks to

744
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: do it.

745
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to my side. I've been I'm telling you

746
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: I'd rather be at home. I don't want to have

747
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: to sleep in no one's hotel. I don't want to

748
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: have to get on the flight and go. I want

749
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: to be right here and do what I my routine.

750
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: If I wake up every morning and I like to

751
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: brush my teeth and have a coffee in my uh

752
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: and look out of my balcony, that's what I want

753
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: to do. I don't want to go and do something

754
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm not comfortable with. And that's why the one seed

755
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: is so important, because we get to do what we

756
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: want to do in our building. There's no weather, we

757
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: know the surface, we know everything. It's familiar. And then

758
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: you go and play then and then when we have

759
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: to go and do other stuff, we'll do it. But

760
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: if I have to go to like if you have

761
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: to go to Carolina to play, you just don't know it.

762
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Carolina is freezing and it's raining.

763
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: It is It's like I control the thermostat in my

764
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: house exactly.

765
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium is kind of on one right now too.

766
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: The win against Seattle, the home win against Tampa Bay.

767
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: See if they can bring it again this Sunday against

768
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: the Lions. The finale in Week eighteen against the Arizona Cardinals.

769
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: You've given LA what they wanted. You've got yourself the

770
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: best team in the league that everybody loves you, they'll

771
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: be here. It'll be a lowed, it'll be rackets, and

772
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: it'll be fun to be the a side. Like in boxing,

773
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: I get to pick the size of the ring, the

774
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: referee and the gloves keep it here. Oh yeah, the

775
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: next two weeks absolutely, and I get to pick the weight.

776
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: I want to catch weight. I want to be it's

777
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: your weight, better fact, lose ten pounds.

778
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll end with this, Like we said in Carolina,

779
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: learned a lot about yourself in Carolina, right, you learned

780
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: a lot about being too aggressive or not being where

781
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be and all these things. Remember that feeling,

782
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: remember that flight home. That that's that's what's going to

783
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: carry you throughout all these next couple of games, is

784
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: remembering what that felt like, because that just half a

785
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: step being out of space or out of place versus

786
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: this team. That's gonna be a touchdown, right, and so

787
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: just make sure that you're where you were supposed to be.

788
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 3: I think the Rams will take care of business.

789
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: Good luck on Saturday.

790
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a big one. You're nervous. Come on, man,

791
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: you got to be nervous. If I could, if I

792
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: could be honest with everyone here. I don't even know

793
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: where my single is up there it is. We got deuce, baby, Duce,

794
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: I trust me?

795
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: What you would you say?

796
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: You trust you? Absolutely? Trust me, Duce. Take me home,

797
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: Take it home, babe. We'll see how it goes, but

798
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a good one for sure.

799
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: What's the what's the stakes this weekend?

800
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: Uh, Santa Margarita State Championship. I don't I don't know

801
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: the spread. I don't know if there's a spread around.

802
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: But uh, Carson Palmer's over there and they have a

803
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: lot of he commits on that on that team, which

804
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: is funny, like it's weird, like Carson Palmer's there and

805
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 2: everyone's going to see. I thought we were not supposed

806
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: to do that. But that's neither here nor there.

807
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: For Maurice Jones Drew for tomorrow, go far, I'm JB. Long.

808
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Saturday the appetizer in the high school ranks before the

809
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: huge buffet here Sunday at Sofi Stadium. We've come to

810
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: you from this Toyota patio to preview it on between

811
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: the horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota dealers. Be

812
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: here where your royal rock The Rams House feel loud

813
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Bee loud