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Speaker 2: Good Morning.

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Speaker 3: I have someone in here who I'm a genuine huge

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Speaker 3: fan of fourteen years on Blue bloods Our next guest

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Speaker 3: is leaving New York. He's shipping up to Boston appropriately

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Speaker 3: his newest show, Boston Blue on CBS. We're gonna play

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Speaker 3: a clip and then I'm just gonna gush about this.

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Speaker 4: Dude. Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: If anything changes, I'll call you right away. Yeah me

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Speaker 5: do do.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 6: Your lab connected the two we found in the alley

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Speaker 6: to scratches.

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Speaker 5: On Andrea Decker's desk. No identify a full fingerprints, but

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Speaker 5: they did track the logo to a local hardware store.

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Speaker 5: Lab confirmed kerosene and turpentine.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, now, that's a lead on the flag.

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Speaker 5: It looks like, yeah, nowhere, I'm the murder.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry you call that police work, detective. You confirm

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Speaker 6: two chemicals that any clown could purchase at any superstore

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Speaker 6: in the United States, and you throw it in our face.

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Speaker 5: Like it's evidence. You want to say that again. I

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Speaker 5: just said it to you and you didn't do a

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Speaker 5: damn thing about it.

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Speaker 4: That was Boston Blue. This is Donnie Wahlburg, My guy,

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Speaker 4: what's up, baby? How are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Finally finally here with them. I'm very happy about it.

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Speaker 3: We've tried to make this happen and I'm the one

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Speaker 3: pushing it and set the table for decades. You've been

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Speaker 3: a guy that I've loved. I'm talking about movies, the

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Speaker 3: TV show, The Burgers, like I go way back with

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Speaker 3: New Kids, man, like for real, like I was doing

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Speaker 3: all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I was life man. Busy, yeah, busy.

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Speaker 5: But blessed. You know.

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Speaker 6: It's just taking everything in stride and staying grateful for

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Speaker 6: like all the things you mentioned and more, you know,

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Speaker 6: my family, my kids, just you know, trying to put

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Speaker 6: my focus, attention, love and gratitude into doing the things

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Speaker 6: that I've always wanted to do.

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Speaker 5: Right Like we're on a football show right now.

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Speaker 6: This was something I always wanted to do and we

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Speaker 6: did it and not be happy. It's like you got

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Speaker 6: to get up early and talk to God. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: that's a problem, because what.

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Speaker 4: And you know what we do?

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Speaker 3: We immediately look to the top of the AFC East

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Speaker 3: leader board.

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Speaker 6: Dude, my first place, New England Patriots, Baby.

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Speaker 3: The Bills lose a national television last night. Unreal, the

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Speaker 3: Pats are cooking. What is the state of your emotions

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Speaker 4: For the Patriots?

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Speaker 5: Happy? Really for mister Craft.

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Speaker 6: I went to opening game this year and had the

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Speaker 6: I know there are high hopes and I know there's

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Speaker 6: also realistic you know thoughts there. They're like, we're kind

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Speaker 5: But the young guys are.

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Speaker 6: Clicking and the everything's kind of working, and you know,

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Speaker 6: I dropped mister crafton I'm not name dropping. He's just

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Speaker 6: one of the nicest guys in the world. He's just

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Speaker 3: Do you you've been after this, your Pat's man, your

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Speaker 4: Like, god, that was my favorite. Man.

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Speaker 6: Well, fortunately we get like a twenty year era with

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Speaker 6: You know, William McGinn as, Teddy, Bruce Key, those are

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Speaker 5: Four takes it to a different place.

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Speaker 6: And somehow that Patriots dynasty wasn't complete till they got

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Speaker 3: Six, and it had been almost ten years since they

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Speaker 4: Thinking, oh my god, they're gonna give it to Marshawn.

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Speaker 5: We're screwed.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna lose another one. And then Malcolm Butler's like,

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Speaker 5: I just didn't know what was gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm watching and I thought we had the

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Speaker 4: It's like, but.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't blame Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 6: Why because you figure, you know, if it goes incomplete.

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Speaker 5: See, I don't blame Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 6: I credit Bill Belichick because they practiced that play and

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Speaker 6: they didn't cheat, They didn't do illegal videotaping. They did

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Speaker 6: And you saw there's practice video out there when Malcolm

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Speaker 4: Never mind, this is a good old bass. There's a

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Speaker 3: You have so many new things going on, but so

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Speaker 3: many years blue book, so many years, fourteen years. It's

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Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of analogous to sports, where you

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Speaker 4: Of the Patriots. What was it like to say goodbye

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Speaker 5: It was very emotional, I bet, I have to say,

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Speaker 5: more so than I thought.

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Speaker 6: When you're in this industry, you kind of assume things

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Speaker 6: can turn on a dime, right, your show can go

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Speaker 6: away at any given moment, and I always thought Blue

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Speaker 6: I said, this is going to last a long time,

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Speaker 6: and you know, no one believed me, and I didn't

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Speaker 5: I just felt right.

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Speaker 6: But when it ended, it was hard because it's not

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Speaker 6: Like I wanted to see some of our crew members retire,

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Speaker 4: I feel it.

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Speaker 3: I could see it even in your face when you're

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Speaker 3: because there's people who watched that a few week for years.

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Speaker 3: But we move on, and I feel like the Drake

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Speaker 3: May in this situation is appropriately Boston Blue. We're in

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Speaker 3: a new era's have something new to watch? Tell us

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Speaker 5: Well, we hope it's the new era.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to It's fine.

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Speaker 5: We want to be in there.

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Speaker 4: Talking about Drake or the show.

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Speaker 6: No, there was a little lull in between Drake May

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Speaker 6: and the Breed was a new Queser was so I

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Speaker 6: would have personally stuck with Cam Newton a little longer.

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Speaker 5: Cam.

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Speaker 6: I think Cam could have could have turned things around

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Speaker 6: I love Cam's underrated. But okay, let's move on Boston Blue. Look,

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Speaker 6: when this opportunity came, of course, Boston was the hook

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Speaker 6: I wanted to make sure if we go forward into

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Speaker 6: this new world with Danny, that it's doing it with

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Speaker 6: to do as a playing a New Yorker in Boston.

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Speaker 6: All these New Yorkers taught me how to hate Boston

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Speaker 6: for the last decade and.

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Speaker 4: A half on Blue bloods Now.

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Speaker 6: I could take those lessons and I'll do you hate Boston?

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Speaker 4: What is nothing? Number one?

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Speaker 6: Oh, we go to a Red Sox game, second episode

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Speaker 6: where the Red Sox great and it's but Danny is

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Speaker 6: a Mets fan.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't let him be a Yankees.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't go that far. I have a limit how

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Speaker 6: Was like, listen, Mets, yes, Yankees, I can swallow Mets.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: We have so many other things to hit quickly. Your wife, Jenny,

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Speaker 3: people are not home. Jenny McCarthy also a huge fan.

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Speaker 3: I've been for years and just love energetic and crazy

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Speaker 3: and creative and just fun.

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Speaker 4: I'll go girl, Chicago girl like me? How is Jenny?

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Yes? Sorry? In another likee, how's Jenny?

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Speaker 4: How's life?

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Speaker 5: She's great.

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Speaker 6: She's just started season I don't know five hundred of

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Speaker 6: and there she is. She's a converted Boston sports fan.

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Speaker 6: I got her on board, man, she was we kind

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Speaker 3: I think you know what, when you go to a

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Speaker 4: Donnie, You're the man. I love what you do. I'm

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Speaker 2: Good mon football, good football. The Lions loss.

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Speaker 5: Left to right.

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Speaker 7: But they've chosen that Daniel Jones can keep this ball

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Speaker 9: I am leaving the Green Bay Packers off of my

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Speaker 9: Said, Todd Bowles, I understand what it was about. It

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Speaker 9: was more of like a I can't believe a Jets

441
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Speaker 9: coach is now being successful elsewhere. And he said, you know,

442
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Speaker 9: Todd Bowles fell into Baker Mayfield. I'm sorry what Bruce

443
00:18:19,228 --> 00:18:23,388
Speaker 9: arians fell into Tom Brady. Todd Bowles didn't fall into

444
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Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield. In fact, when they signed Baker Mayfield, I

445
00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:28,628
Speaker 9: went back and just checked to see what was happening,

446
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Speaker 9: and they said he was signing for one year, four

447
00:18:30,548 --> 00:18:32,668
Speaker 9: million dollars to compete with John.

448
00:18:32,468 --> 00:18:34,348
Speaker 4: Wolford and Kyle Trask.

449
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Speaker 9: Let's not forget that it wasn't exactly MVP level Baker

450
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Speaker 9: Mayfield at the time. And Todd Bowles has done a

451
00:18:40,308 --> 00:18:44,788
Speaker 9: great job hiring offensive coordinators to fit with Baker Mayfield,

452
00:18:44,908 --> 00:18:47,868
Speaker 9: coordinators who are now head coaches and has helped formulate

453
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Speaker 9: this whole thing around him and the identity of Baker Mayfield.

454
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Speaker 9: They are banged up, they are still producing. I love

455
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Speaker 9: what the Bucks are doing right now. Go ahead, tubbles.

456
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Speaker 3: I I have vivid memories of Sarah Walsh doing many

457
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Speaker 3: Kyle trast reports and like they were dead serious. They're

458
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Speaker 3: like Kyle Trask was going to be our guy, and

459
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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield came up and he looks like the best

460
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Speaker 3: player in the NFL.

461
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Speaker 4: All right, So.

462
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Speaker 3: Easy transition, by the way, Mike, I like the style

463
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Speaker 3: of not the paper, just write it quickly between each

464
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Speaker 3: one and there's not the mess. Guess so I have

465
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Speaker 3: it five. I have the Tampay Buccaneers of five. We're

466
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Speaker 3: talking about right now, Week seven. Okay, very good team,

467
00:19:22,788 --> 00:19:24,228
Speaker 3: very good record, very good quarterback.

468
00:19:24,788 --> 00:19:25,708
Speaker 4: All their guys are heard.

469
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Speaker 3: It feels like they're all hard and I know they're

470
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Speaker 3: coming back and they're training this way. The fact that

471
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Speaker 3: they lost the guy who's gonna win Rookie of the Year,

472
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Speaker 3: the fact that god Win again and Evans have been

473
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Speaker 3: banged up in Bucky. Like, I think they're a top

474
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Speaker 3: five team right now. Remember, fourteen teams make the playoffs.

475
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Speaker 3: It's not an insult that you're five or four for

476
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Speaker 3: the Love of God.

477
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Speaker 4: Number four. I have these guys.

478
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Speaker 3: If you can read this, I have the Rams at four.

479
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Speaker 3: I will always stick by the Rams. The Rams beat

480
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Speaker 3: the Colts. That does matter, and it's gonna matter on

481
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Speaker 3: this list as well. I went back and forth, Matti,

482
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Speaker 3: I know you had Seattle and Mike had Seattle.

483
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Speaker 4: I like both those teams in the West.

484
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Speaker 3: I would like San Francisco if they weren't a hospital ward.

485
00:20:01,988 --> 00:20:05,108
Speaker 3: I like the Rams at number four, number three, only

486
00:20:05,148 --> 00:20:07,468
Speaker 3: this team could get absolutely get their clock clean and

487
00:20:07,508 --> 00:20:09,108
Speaker 3: still be a top three team in the league.

488
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Speaker 4: I have the Lions. I know that was an ugly game.

489
00:20:11,828 --> 00:20:13,228
Speaker 4: I know Week one was an ugly game.

490
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Speaker 3: They've had two ugly games, and I still like them

491
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Speaker 3: that much because they're pretty.

492
00:20:17,068 --> 00:20:18,628
Speaker 4: Games are beautiful.

493
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Speaker 3: To go back to the Wayne's World Top ten list,

494
00:20:21,228 --> 00:20:24,548
Speaker 3: They're Klaudia Schiffer, the Babraham Lincoln, They're just they're rem brands.

495
00:20:24,588 --> 00:20:26,428
Speaker 3: They look really good, and I think their ceiling is

496
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Speaker 3: as high as any.

497
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Speaker 4: Team in the league.

498
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Speaker 3: Ing here we go, Yes, definitely swing number two. I

499
00:20:30,788 --> 00:20:32,548
Speaker 3: got a five hundred team at there's the second best

500
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Speaker 3: team in the league.

501
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Speaker 4: I have the Chiefs that display over Detroit was like,

502
00:20:37,588 --> 00:20:39,908
Speaker 4: oh crap, right like that.

503
00:20:40,828 --> 00:20:45,628
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, they can't keep getting away with this.

504
00:20:46,148 --> 00:20:47,548
Speaker 4: Yeah they can, now they can.

505
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Speaker 3: Are you any if there's any doubt right now that

506
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are gonna have at least one home playoff

507
00:20:51,828 --> 00:20:53,748
Speaker 3: game after you watch what they did and all, you've

508
00:20:53,748 --> 00:20:55,948
Speaker 3: already made the point about Rashid Rice. It's just like

509
00:20:56,108 --> 00:20:58,228
Speaker 3: they looked very good the other night, and they look

510
00:20:58,308 --> 00:21:00,628
Speaker 3: very familiar, and then number one, I'll just do it.

511
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Speaker 3: I would love to shock everybody and leave them off

512
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Speaker 3: the list, but I'm going with the coats of the

513
00:21:04,548 --> 00:21:07,948
Speaker 3: number one team right now in this moment. I know

514
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Speaker 3: they haven't played great competition when they played the bad teams.

515
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Speaker 4: They destroy the bad teams. They did beat Denver. They

516
00:21:15,628 --> 00:21:16,988
Speaker 4: blew it against the Rams.

517
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Speaker 3: The guy doesn't drop the ball before the goal line.

518
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Speaker 3: I think the ANFLS Colts win that game. They have

519
00:21:21,828 --> 00:21:24,148
Speaker 3: the best points differential in the league by far. It

520
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Speaker 3: means they're blowing teams out. They've had the best running

521
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Speaker 3: back in the league. I think they may already have

522
00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:30,348
Speaker 3: the best tight end in the league in a rookie

523
00:21:30,388 --> 00:21:32,748
Speaker 3: who's played just a handful of games in Tyler Warren.

524
00:21:32,988 --> 00:21:35,308
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones looks like he did that one year when

525
00:21:35,308 --> 00:21:37,268
Speaker 3: they want a road playoff game. N Er Brian dabl

526
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Speaker 3: The defense is great. I know it's there. It's the yeah,

527
00:21:40,308 --> 00:21:42,828
Speaker 3: but the yeah. But they played the Chargers next, we

528
00:21:42,908 --> 00:21:44,828
Speaker 3: will have a look. The Chargers are a very good team.

529
00:21:44,868 --> 00:21:46,628
Speaker 3: We probably expect to be in the playoffs.

530
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Speaker 4: When do you believe if not? Now?

531
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Speaker 3: They can only play who's on their schedule? Just what

532
00:21:51,508 --> 00:21:54,108
Speaker 3: is the week where if they beat them, then we'll believe.

533
00:21:54,428 --> 00:21:56,428
Speaker 3: This is not one in one anymore. It's not two

534
00:21:56,428 --> 00:21:57,868
Speaker 3: in one. It's oh what or not? Want a cute

535
00:21:57,868 --> 00:21:59,668
Speaker 3: little story with Danie Jones. They are a very good

536
00:21:59,748 --> 00:22:02,628
Speaker 3: team who are smashing people on the schedule most weeks.

537
00:22:02,628 --> 00:22:05,188
Speaker 3: And I have the Colts right now, says right there,

538
00:22:05,308 --> 00:22:06,908
Speaker 3: Week seven is the best team in the NFL.

539
00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:08,548
Speaker 8: All right, everybody hold up your board so we can

540
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Speaker 8: get a nice little fancy screen grab on October fifteenth.

541
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Speaker 8: That's what it looks like.

542
00:22:13,668 --> 00:22:14,948
Speaker 5: All right, this is cool.

543
00:22:15,068 --> 00:22:17,668
Speaker 8: Just a refresher exercise on how we do top five

544
00:22:17,708 --> 00:22:19,588
Speaker 8: lists on GMFB, or at least this is a rule

545
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Speaker 8: that Kyle lives by. Everybody puts their list up and

546
00:22:22,148 --> 00:22:24,868
Speaker 8: then we have to acknowledge those left off lists. For example,

547
00:22:24,908 --> 00:22:27,188
Speaker 8: I did a top five foot injuries list a couple

548
00:22:27,228 --> 00:22:29,148
Speaker 8: weeks ago, and Kyle was like, where's gout? Like we

549
00:22:29,188 --> 00:22:31,708
Speaker 8: always have to talk about going on there. You guys

550
00:22:31,708 --> 00:22:34,868
Speaker 8: have quite the list of four win teams that you

551
00:22:34,988 --> 00:22:37,828
Speaker 8: all ignored. I got that on my board right here.

552
00:22:38,188 --> 00:22:42,948
Speaker 8: There is no Denver, there is no Buffalo, no Jacksonville Chargers,

553
00:22:43,028 --> 00:22:47,148
Speaker 8: New England, forty nine Ers, Philly, Pittsburgh All those four

554
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Speaker 8: win teams the three of you do not have in

555
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Speaker 8: your top five.

556
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Speaker 4: So can anyone speak.

557
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Speaker 8: Up for the fact that these guys are not top

558
00:22:56,188 --> 00:22:58,068
Speaker 8: five powerful enough for you to be on your list

559
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Speaker 8: At four wins? You have a five hundred team, You've

560
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Speaker 8: got a team that's not looked great over.

561
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Speaker 4: Last couple of weeks. You have a super defending.

562
00:23:05,388 --> 00:23:08,308
Speaker 8: Champion on this list, and none of you in fifteen

563
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:10,428
Speaker 8: slots didn't put these teams on there.

564
00:23:10,508 --> 00:23:13,588
Speaker 3: RYKB, I love the list because this is the statement

565
00:23:13,588 --> 00:23:15,228
Speaker 3: about this year in the NFL, is that.

566
00:23:15,428 --> 00:23:17,388
Speaker 4: I don't know who it's going to be. It could

567
00:23:17,388 --> 00:23:17,828
Speaker 4: be wild.

568
00:23:17,868 --> 00:23:19,348
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a lot of teams right there that

569
00:23:19,348 --> 00:23:22,508
Speaker 3: are really good teams. Now Buffalo looks terrible right now,

570
00:23:22,508 --> 00:23:24,268
Speaker 3: and they know, I think even Bills fans, I don't

571
00:23:24,268 --> 00:23:25,268
Speaker 3: know if they have them in the top five.

572
00:23:25,308 --> 00:23:27,788
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll get there, but not now. Philadelphia does not

573
00:23:27,828 --> 00:23:29,188
Speaker 4: look good right now at all. They do't look like

574
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Speaker 4: a top five.

575
00:23:29,588 --> 00:23:29,708
Speaker 5: Two.

576
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Speaker 3: We can just take those off and then we have

577
00:23:31,668 --> 00:23:33,268
Speaker 3: another guys, you can join me here.

578
00:23:33,468 --> 00:23:34,268
Speaker 4: The rest of them.

579
00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:36,868
Speaker 3: Are this conversation of teams that are kind of knocking

580
00:23:36,948 --> 00:23:40,308
Speaker 3: in the door, knocking on the door, like New England's

581
00:23:40,788 --> 00:23:44,228
Speaker 3: and Denver with young quarterbacks, or there teams that maybe

582
00:23:44,268 --> 00:23:47,308
Speaker 3: we just don't trust yet. And I'll put Jacksonville there. Yes,

583
00:23:47,348 --> 00:23:49,268
Speaker 3: they did beat the Chiefs, it was great, and then

584
00:23:49,268 --> 00:23:51,468
Speaker 3: they follow it up with kind of a disappointing loss.

585
00:23:51,508 --> 00:23:53,188
Speaker 4: So we only get five spots.

586
00:23:53,548 --> 00:23:56,708
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's an interesting one, too many, Like take your pick,

587
00:23:56,748 --> 00:23:57,268
Speaker 3: what do you think?

588
00:23:57,428 --> 00:23:59,948
Speaker 7: Well, when I look at Pittsburgh, I'm looking at a

589
00:23:59,988 --> 00:24:03,068
Speaker 7: team that that's the team that I flirted with a

590
00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:05,508
Speaker 7: little bit. Right, They're trajectory is going to higher, whereas

591
00:24:05,588 --> 00:24:07,468
Speaker 7: if you look at the Bills, it seems.

592
00:24:07,148 --> 00:24:08,148
Speaker 5: Like they hit a stall.

593
00:24:08,428 --> 00:24:12,108
Speaker 7: Philadelphia doesn't look to look too good to kb's point,

594
00:24:12,428 --> 00:24:16,308
Speaker 7: But then you got you got teams like San Francisco

595
00:24:16,428 --> 00:24:19,348
Speaker 7: where they just lost Fred like that, losing your general

596
00:24:19,348 --> 00:24:21,308
Speaker 7: in the middle of that defense with a team that

597
00:24:21,348 --> 00:24:24,788
Speaker 7: already has so many injuries, that's hard. The Chargers they

598
00:24:24,828 --> 00:24:27,308
Speaker 7: have no old line right now, which is very concerning

599
00:24:27,348 --> 00:24:30,548
Speaker 7: for me to keep Justin Herbert healthy and safe. So

600
00:24:30,828 --> 00:24:32,468
Speaker 7: and they don't have both in the runnebacks, so that's

601
00:24:32,508 --> 00:24:33,228
Speaker 7: also difficult.

602
00:24:33,268 --> 00:24:34,668
Speaker 4: The guys that I actually.

603
00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:37,588
Speaker 7: Did flirt with was Denver and New England. I really

604
00:24:37,628 --> 00:24:41,588
Speaker 7: like how New England is playing, especially, but Denver, I

605
00:24:41,628 --> 00:24:43,948
Speaker 7: think there are some concerns with how they're playing offensively.

606
00:24:43,988 --> 00:24:45,028
Speaker 4: Defensively there's like.

607
00:24:44,988 --> 00:24:47,908
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's they're the best defense in the NFL.

608
00:24:47,948 --> 00:24:50,548
Speaker 7: But offensively I think there's still there's still some hurdles

609
00:24:50,548 --> 00:24:52,988
Speaker 7: for them to kind of jump over, you like thoughts.

610
00:24:53,468 --> 00:24:56,828
Speaker 9: Two things I struggle with with this list. One injuries

611
00:24:57,028 --> 00:24:59,828
Speaker 9: and two recency bias. I didn't want to be like, Wow,

612
00:24:59,868 --> 00:25:02,348
Speaker 9: this thing happened on Sunday and it kind of impacted me.

613
00:25:02,508 --> 00:25:04,068
Speaker 9: Don't forget what happened two weeks ago.

614
00:25:04,108 --> 00:25:06,148
Speaker 4: It's a marathon, not a sprint. Types up. The other

615
00:25:06,148 --> 00:25:06,948
Speaker 4: thing is injuries.

616
00:25:07,308 --> 00:25:09,908
Speaker 9: When you look at San Francisco, Nick Bosa and Fred

617
00:25:09,908 --> 00:25:12,548
Speaker 9: Warner are not coming back. You may say, my number

618
00:25:12,548 --> 00:25:15,468
Speaker 9: one team here, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is ravage at

619
00:25:15,508 --> 00:25:18,148
Speaker 9: the receiver position. Although Sterling Shepard may be listening to

620
00:25:18,228 --> 00:25:20,228
Speaker 9: us because he's coming up. They're totally fine at the

621
00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:21,028
Speaker 9: receiver position.

622
00:25:21,108 --> 00:25:23,908
Speaker 4: Sterling. Everything's great. But by the way, the top.

623
00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:25,668
Speaker 9: Five at five is a reference to you. I'm struggling

624
00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:27,908
Speaker 9: at eight am right now. It's five am out on

625
00:25:27,908 --> 00:25:30,108
Speaker 9: the West Coast way to go out there. So yeah,

626
00:25:30,188 --> 00:25:31,908
Speaker 9: that's what I struggle with there, and that's why I left.

627
00:25:31,748 --> 00:25:33,868
Speaker 4: Some of them. I want to shout out to Philadelphia.

628
00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:35,988
Speaker 3: One of these teams are like, hey, they would have

629
00:25:36,028 --> 00:25:39,588
Speaker 3: been number one on in this list. Philadelphia has beaten

630
00:25:40,148 --> 00:25:41,988
Speaker 3: two of the teams on my list.

631
00:25:42,068 --> 00:25:44,868
Speaker 4: They have beaten Kansas City, they have beaten the Rams

632
00:25:44,868 --> 00:25:47,428
Speaker 4: and Eagles Fans like, what the hell, guys.

633
00:25:47,388 --> 00:25:50,268
Speaker 3: You just lost by three scores to the Giants, Like

634
00:25:50,428 --> 00:25:52,388
Speaker 3: I have to go with what I just saw, Like

635
00:25:52,588 --> 00:25:54,588
Speaker 3: you did not compete in the second half of that

636
00:25:54,668 --> 00:25:57,708
Speaker 3: game to a rookie quarterback and the andandrothal rookie running back.

637
00:25:57,708 --> 00:25:58,148
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

638
00:25:58,948 --> 00:26:00,708
Speaker 3: Maybe you're the eighth team or the ninth You're not

639
00:26:00,748 --> 00:26:01,428
Speaker 3: in the top five.

640
00:26:01,588 --> 00:26:02,188
Speaker 4: Right now.

641
00:26:02,388 --> 00:26:05,068
Speaker 8: No, Kyle, the most entertaining thing is been happening in

642
00:26:05,148 --> 00:26:07,868
Speaker 8: my ear in the last seven minutes. You can't imagine

643
00:26:07,868 --> 00:26:10,348
Speaker 8: the amount of screaming that's been happening might from the

644
00:26:10,388 --> 00:26:12,028
Speaker 8: production booth into my ear.

645
00:26:11,868 --> 00:26:13,348
Speaker 4: While these lists are unfolding.

646
00:26:13,788 --> 00:26:16,188
Speaker 8: As you were going, they were like, there's.

647
00:26:15,948 --> 00:26:19,068
Speaker 4: No egels, there's a level, and then.

648
00:26:19,028 --> 00:26:21,148
Speaker 8: You just said, oh, the Eagles have beat two of

649
00:26:21,148 --> 00:26:23,868
Speaker 8: my teams, and then the symphony that just came into

650
00:26:23,908 --> 00:26:25,908
Speaker 8: me they've actually beaten three of your teams. Kyle, you

651
00:26:25,988 --> 00:26:29,348
Speaker 8: forgot about the bucks because if nothing else, the guys

652
00:26:29,348 --> 00:26:31,108
Speaker 8: in the booth like to make that gals in the

653
00:26:31,108 --> 00:26:34,308
Speaker 8: booth like to make sure that we all stand corrected

654
00:26:34,348 --> 00:26:37,468
Speaker 8: with our teams. But Kyle, you think it's annoying.

655
00:26:37,108 --> 00:26:38,788
Speaker 4: When my little whiskers.

656
00:26:40,948 --> 00:26:44,668
Speaker 3: Trying to stay unbiased with a passionately biased production booth

657
00:26:44,828 --> 00:26:46,828
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, I mean, guys of all things.

658
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Speaker 4: Now you're writing.

659
00:26:47,748 --> 00:26:48,268
Speaker 5: For the Eagles.

660
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Speaker 4: Did you watch the game last day? And I didn't

661
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Speaker 4: bet an eye.

662
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Speaker 9: You're leaving the Eagles off of my time.

663
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Speaker 4: I'm very sorry.

664
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Speaker 7: I'm very sorry to check out.

665
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Speaker 4: I watched them, as did.

666
00:27:18,428 --> 00:27:20,388
Speaker 3: All right, this is the best you can take your pick,

667
00:27:20,628 --> 00:27:25,028
Speaker 3: Walter Peyton, Kobe Bryant, Brett Favre, the nineties Cowboys. Our

668
00:27:25,068 --> 00:27:27,108
Speaker 3: next guest has written about all of them, and he's

669
00:27:27,108 --> 00:27:30,148
Speaker 3: written prolifically. And guess who's writing about now? Take a

670
00:27:30,188 --> 00:27:34,428
Speaker 3: look at this. He is writing about Tupac Shakur. That's

671
00:27:34,508 --> 00:27:39,028
Speaker 3: the book only God can judge me by. Jeff Pearlman.

672
00:27:39,108 --> 00:27:41,108
Speaker 3: Will he be judged by this book? I hope so,

673
00:27:41,148 --> 00:27:45,028
Speaker 3: because it's amazing as always. An old friend, an incredible writer.

674
00:27:45,388 --> 00:27:47,148
Speaker 3: Jeff Perlman and studio here in New York, say what's up?

675
00:27:47,188 --> 00:27:47,468
Speaker 4: Jeff?

676
00:27:47,788 --> 00:27:49,868
Speaker 10: Do you get tired of having guests come here talking

677
00:27:49,868 --> 00:27:50,468
Speaker 10: about Tupac?

678
00:27:50,508 --> 00:27:52,308
Speaker 5: Second little old for you do it every single.

679
00:27:52,548 --> 00:27:55,468
Speaker 3: It never gets old. That's why we have you here.

680
00:27:55,868 --> 00:28:00,308
Speaker 3: It brings us to the first question. So I start, sweetness, Kobe,

681
00:28:00,508 --> 00:28:05,028
Speaker 3: far of all that Tupac? Why the zag two things?

682
00:28:05,108 --> 00:28:06,668
Speaker 3: Number one? This is going to sound weird.

683
00:28:06,748 --> 00:28:08,628
Speaker 10: My mother in law is named Laura Cole and she

684
00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:11,628
Speaker 10: loves Tupac and for years she's been like, you should

685
00:28:11,628 --> 00:28:14,188
Speaker 10: do this book. I swear to God. So lives in Florida.

686
00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:16,468
Speaker 10: She's a huge hip hop fan. It was like, do

687
00:28:16,548 --> 00:28:19,468
Speaker 10: a Tupac book? Number two. I love Tupac and I

688
00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:21,748
Speaker 10: always wanted to write the book. It's a book I

689
00:28:21,788 --> 00:28:24,148
Speaker 10: always wanted to write. And I've done sports, done sports,

690
00:28:24,228 --> 00:28:26,068
Speaker 10: don sports. I just want to break out of my

691
00:28:26,068 --> 00:28:27,388
Speaker 10: cell a little bit and try something different.

692
00:28:28,028 --> 00:28:29,868
Speaker 4: When is the Laura Cole book coming out? Yeah?

693
00:28:29,948 --> 00:28:32,788
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's next, that's next.

694
00:28:32,868 --> 00:28:33,028
Speaker 4: Yeah.

695
00:28:33,068 --> 00:28:33,508
Speaker 5: She's awesome.

696
00:28:34,188 --> 00:28:38,188
Speaker 9: When you start, I mean, you'd written a lot about sports,

697
00:28:38,188 --> 00:28:40,628
Speaker 9: so it's sort of you have that structure and.

698
00:28:40,508 --> 00:28:42,508
Speaker 4: That roll of dex.

699
00:28:42,548 --> 00:28:44,348
Speaker 9: I guess you could say this had to be a

700
00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:46,588
Speaker 9: whole new world, Like how do you dive into that and.

701
00:28:46,908 --> 00:28:48,828
Speaker 5: Say, Okay, we've got to build this up from the ground.

702
00:28:48,908 --> 00:28:50,588
Speaker 5: That's hard and it's interesting.

703
00:28:50,748 --> 00:28:53,228
Speaker 10: The thing you have with athletes when you're writing books,

704
00:28:53,228 --> 00:28:54,148
Speaker 10: that's an underrated thing.

705
00:28:54,308 --> 00:28:55,708
Speaker 5: You have a schedule where they were.

706
00:28:56,148 --> 00:28:58,708
Speaker 10: So I write Bo Jackson from this year to this year,

707
00:28:58,748 --> 00:29:00,948
Speaker 10: I know everywhere he was for eighty percent of the year.

708
00:29:01,108 --> 00:29:03,628
Speaker 10: Same with far, same with all these people Tubac, except

709
00:29:03,628 --> 00:29:05,308
Speaker 10: for touring, you don't know. So it's a lot of

710
00:29:05,308 --> 00:29:08,468
Speaker 10: finding old high school yearbooks, elementary school yearbooks, going through

711
00:29:08,468 --> 00:29:11,188
Speaker 10: liner notes of albums, and just calling, calling, calling, and

712
00:29:11,228 --> 00:29:13,548
Speaker 10: trying to recreate where he was, what he was doing.

713
00:29:13,628 --> 00:29:17,788
Speaker 5: It was daunting, this incredibly morbid question.

714
00:29:17,828 --> 00:29:19,348
Speaker 3: There's so many amazing things about his life, but a

715
00:29:19,348 --> 00:29:21,028
Speaker 3: lot of people who know about Tupac know about the

716
00:29:21,108 --> 00:29:22,828
Speaker 3: end of his life and have questions about it. So,

717
00:29:23,508 --> 00:29:25,548
Speaker 3: in doing the research the way that only you do it,

718
00:29:25,588 --> 00:29:26,668
Speaker 3: what is something that you learned?

719
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Speaker 4: Or maybe they were surprised about the death of Tubac?

720
00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:30,988
Speaker 10: All right, and there are people who disagree with me

721
00:29:31,028 --> 00:29:33,748
Speaker 10: on this too, bout Diehearts. I think what's surprising is

722
00:29:33,788 --> 00:29:38,828
Speaker 10: how all the conspiracy theories to me fall totally flat. Basically,

723
00:29:39,108 --> 00:29:41,868
Speaker 10: it's a Mike Tyson Bruce Seldon fight. Tyson's at this

724
00:29:41,908 --> 00:29:45,388
Speaker 10: fight's a terrible, terrible fight. Tyson kills him. After the game.

725
00:29:45,468 --> 00:29:47,988
Speaker 10: After the fight is over, Tubac is in the lobby

726
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Speaker 10: of the MGM Grant and he's with a bunch of

727
00:29:50,148 --> 00:29:52,228
Speaker 10: guys from Death Row Records Show Knights label that he's

728
00:29:52,268 --> 00:29:54,948
Speaker 10: signed to, and they see a guy Orlando Anderson, who

729
00:29:54,988 --> 00:29:57,228
Speaker 10: is a Compton crip, and a guy next to Tupac

730
00:29:57,428 --> 00:29:59,468
Speaker 10: is with Tupac says, that's a guy who stole my

731
00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:01,828
Speaker 10: chain because there have been an altercation in a mall recently.

732
00:30:01,908 --> 00:30:04,788
Speaker 10: This guy was wearing a medallion, Orlando Anderson rip it off.

733
00:30:05,068 --> 00:30:06,828
Speaker 5: Two bucks? Is which guy? He goes?

734
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Speaker 10: That guy right over there, and this guy, Orlando Anderson,

735
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Speaker 10: who's affiliated with the Compton Crips, Tupac walks up to him,

736
00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:14,228
Speaker 10: says hey you and punches him.

737
00:30:14,708 --> 00:30:16,308
Speaker 5: All the Death Row guys pounce.

738
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Speaker 10: Later on, Orlando Anderson is they're driving around looking for

739
00:30:21,708 --> 00:30:23,228
Speaker 10: a two buck. They go to Shook Clubby's not there,

740
00:30:23,228 --> 00:30:26,308
Speaker 10: and they see Tupac leaning out of sug Knight's car

741
00:30:26,628 --> 00:30:29,108
Speaker 10: kind of hollering at women as they walk by. Lano

742
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Speaker 10: Orlando anders Is like that that's him.

743
00:30:31,868 --> 00:30:33,068
Speaker 5: That's that's Tupac.

744
00:30:33,548 --> 00:30:35,668
Speaker 10: And I interviewed one of Orlando Anderson's best friends and

745
00:30:35,708 --> 00:30:38,908
Speaker 10: he said something that has actually stuck with me. He's like, Orlano,

746
00:30:39,148 --> 00:30:41,748
Speaker 10: Orlando Anderson could not go back to Compton and just

747
00:30:41,788 --> 00:30:44,548
Speaker 10: be like I got my ass kick by a rapper,

748
00:30:44,748 --> 00:30:46,748
Speaker 10: Like I got my ass hit by a rapper, like

749
00:30:46,788 --> 00:30:47,948
Speaker 10: the embarrassment of that.

750
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Speaker 5: Couldn't do it.

751
00:30:49,068 --> 00:30:52,068
Speaker 10: So I just think it's more straightforward than people think.

752
00:30:52,188 --> 00:30:53,868
Speaker 5: Hmm, that's incredible.

753
00:30:54,668 --> 00:30:57,028
Speaker 9: Are any reason, I mean, any resistance You're starting to

754
00:30:57,028 --> 00:30:59,628
Speaker 9: ask questions about you know, it's not a football game.

755
00:30:59,668 --> 00:31:02,388
Speaker 9: It's not a sport that you're asking that's a murder

756
00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,028
Speaker 9: that you're asking about. You ever get so far into

757
00:31:05,068 --> 00:31:05,628
Speaker 9: this you going.

758
00:31:05,548 --> 00:31:09,068
Speaker 10: Like, well, oh yeah, yeah, I mean it was I

759
00:31:09,068 --> 00:31:11,468
Speaker 10: found the first police officer, I interviewed the first police

760
00:31:11,468 --> 00:31:14,828
Speaker 10: officer who got to the scene. I interviewed the coroner afterwards,

761
00:31:15,188 --> 00:31:17,428
Speaker 10: like I interviewed his family members who were in the

762
00:31:17,428 --> 00:31:19,948
Speaker 10: hospital with him. And the closer you get to something

763
00:31:20,148 --> 00:31:22,988
Speaker 10: like people like the sexy myth right, especially with young

764
00:31:23,108 --> 00:31:27,588
Speaker 10: Young Death Marilyn Monroe, Jim Steve, they love the mythology,

765
00:31:27,908 --> 00:31:30,108
Speaker 10: but the closer you get and the people who know best,

766
00:31:30,628 --> 00:31:32,908
Speaker 10: they sort of break it down and they're actually exhausted

767
00:31:32,908 --> 00:31:34,788
Speaker 10: by it all because they've heard it over and over

768
00:31:34,828 --> 00:31:36,668
Speaker 10: and over again. And I just think the truth of

769
00:31:36,668 --> 00:31:39,668
Speaker 10: the matter is he punched the wrong guy. He was

770
00:31:39,708 --> 00:31:41,908
Speaker 10: the wrong guy to do it. It was crazy that

771
00:31:41,948 --> 00:31:44,508
Speaker 10: death Row let him do it. He had all these

772
00:31:44,508 --> 00:31:48,188
Speaker 10: guys who are experienced gang bangers, experienced security let him

773
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Speaker 10: just walk.

774
00:31:48,588 --> 00:31:53,228
Speaker 5: Up and punch this guy and it ended his life.

775
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Speaker 3: This is a tiny, tiny half of a percent of

776
00:31:56,268 --> 00:31:58,948
Speaker 3: what is in this It is page after page of

777
00:31:58,988 --> 00:32:02,508
Speaker 3: stuff like this that is completely riveting. The one subject

778
00:32:02,508 --> 00:32:05,668
Speaker 3: that you definitely have not written on that. Somebody needs, Jeff,

779
00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:08,748
Speaker 3: what is the book? I'm the New York what You're

780
00:32:08,788 --> 00:32:11,228
Speaker 3: an East Coast guy, You're like a jest.

781
00:32:11,148 --> 00:32:13,548
Speaker 4: Dude, Where do you go? What do you? How many

782
00:32:13,588 --> 00:32:15,508
Speaker 4: volumes is it? You're an author?

783
00:32:15,588 --> 00:32:17,148
Speaker 3: How would you even approach a project like that?

784
00:32:17,228 --> 00:32:17,468
Speaker 5: First?

785
00:32:17,468 --> 00:32:19,228
Speaker 10: I would take this mug and slam it into my

786
00:32:19,268 --> 00:32:23,708
Speaker 10: head as hard as possible. Okay, just the futility and

787
00:32:23,748 --> 00:32:26,428
Speaker 10: the student I honestly got this year is the word.

788
00:32:26,428 --> 00:32:28,108
Speaker 10: I've been a Jeff fan, my whole h only team

789
00:32:28,148 --> 00:32:30,948
Speaker 10: I care about. I've been through, obviously the butt fumble.

790
00:32:31,268 --> 00:32:32,868
Speaker 10: I've been through Aaron Rodgers.

791
00:32:32,628 --> 00:32:33,788
Speaker 5: And the Achilles. I've been through a j.

792
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:37,908
Speaker 10: Dewey five intercept, three interceptions. I've been through not drafting

793
00:32:37,908 --> 00:32:40,668
Speaker 10: Warren Sapp and drafting Kyle Brady. I've been through not

794
00:32:40,788 --> 00:32:43,308
Speaker 10: drafting Marino, drafting Ken O'Brien, on and on and on.

795
00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:46,148
Speaker 10: This is the worst year I've ever seen in my life.

796
00:32:46,388 --> 00:32:49,268
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm not kidding. I can't even fathom.

797
00:32:49,268 --> 00:32:50,428
Speaker 4: What is it about it? Can you put a finger

798
00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:51,268
Speaker 4: on with the record is bad?

799
00:32:51,308 --> 00:32:51,628
Speaker 5: Obviously?

800
00:32:51,628 --> 00:32:52,148
Speaker 4: But is there anything?

801
00:32:52,268 --> 00:32:54,868
Speaker 10: Yeah, there's no hope whatsoever. And they're going to get

802
00:32:54,868 --> 00:32:56,428
Speaker 10: the first pick of the draft and there's not even

803
00:32:56,468 --> 00:32:59,748
Speaker 10: a marque quarterback today. And make it even worse in

804
00:32:59,868 --> 00:33:03,748
Speaker 10: the same city and stadium. Oh, the other team found

805
00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:06,748
Speaker 10: a franchisequarterback. It looks like has an exciting young running

806
00:33:06,748 --> 00:33:12,388
Speaker 10: back and roll Oh, and this is go on Tupac.

807
00:33:12,588 --> 00:33:15,428
Speaker 10: This is when this is when the Patriots are supposed

808
00:33:15,468 --> 00:33:17,748
Speaker 10: to be down and the Jets were supposed to be No,

809
00:33:17,868 --> 00:33:20,108
Speaker 10: we skipped that one altogether. That was a year like

810
00:33:20,388 --> 00:33:23,188
Speaker 10: it's just my numbingly so I don't know what happened

811
00:33:23,148 --> 00:33:24,988
Speaker 10: and start writing the book. It's got to be like

812
00:33:25,028 --> 00:33:26,508
Speaker 10: six boys. Wait all the things you just said as

813
00:33:26,508 --> 00:33:27,788
Speaker 10: the book, I just want to say one thing, I'm

814
00:33:27,828 --> 00:33:30,348
Speaker 10: not curious. I'm i'm I think I was five years old.

815
00:33:30,828 --> 00:33:33,188
Speaker 10: My brother was seven Mayo pac New York. My brother

816
00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,668
Speaker 10: at the table says, I'm going to root for the Giants,

817
00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:37,588
Speaker 10: and I say, okay, I'm going to root for the Jets.

818
00:33:37,628 --> 00:33:39,668
Speaker 10: My brother would not recognize that Eli Manning if he

819
00:33:39,708 --> 00:33:41,388
Speaker 10: came up to him and said, I am Eli Manning.

820
00:33:41,708 --> 00:33:44,068
Speaker 5: And that is what has caused me to be a

821
00:33:44,108 --> 00:33:44,508
Speaker 5: Jet fan.

822
00:33:44,628 --> 00:33:46,668
Speaker 10: My brother, David Pearlman, has caused me to be a

823
00:33:46,748 --> 00:33:47,868
Speaker 10: Jet fan and ruined my life.

824
00:33:48,388 --> 00:33:49,788
Speaker 4: Only God can judge the Jets.

825
00:33:49,908 --> 00:33:51,988
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is judging the Jets.

826
00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:56,748
Speaker 9: Joe Fleckough once played for the Jets, now going to

827
00:33:56,788 --> 00:33:57,268
Speaker 9: play tonight.

828
00:33:57,508 --> 00:33:59,988
Speaker 5: Let's go were you in You both went to Delaware. Yeah,

829
00:33:59,988 --> 00:34:01,188
Speaker 5: I'm older than him. You are older.

830
00:34:01,268 --> 00:34:02,508
Speaker 4: Jeff. Jeffs a blue Hen.

831
00:34:02,748 --> 00:34:03,948
Speaker 5: I am a Della blue Hen. Yeah.

832
00:34:03,988 --> 00:34:06,068
Speaker 9: So in the field to night, your thoughts on Joe

833
00:34:06,068 --> 00:34:07,988
Speaker 9: Flacco is still out there slinging it.

834
00:34:08,148 --> 00:34:09,948
Speaker 10: As you get older, I mean, you guys might appreciate

835
00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:12,028
Speaker 10: this too, right, You root for the guys who last

836
00:34:12,228 --> 00:34:14,308
Speaker 10: because you feel like they're at least kind of sort

837
00:34:14,308 --> 00:34:17,028
Speaker 10: of in a way in your age range. Look, but

838
00:34:17,108 --> 00:34:19,708
Speaker 10: people don't know about the University of Delaware. We had Flacco,

839
00:34:19,948 --> 00:34:22,148
Speaker 10: we have rich Gannon, we had former Giants Scott Runner,

840
00:34:22,188 --> 00:34:25,188
Speaker 10: we had former Lion Jeff Kamla, all starting quarterbacks in

841
00:34:25,228 --> 00:34:27,668
Speaker 10: the NFL. Yeah, Delaware one of four schools to have

842
00:34:27,708 --> 00:34:30,108
Speaker 10: a US president and a Super Bowl winning.

843
00:34:29,948 --> 00:34:34,428
Speaker 4: Quarterback and a head coach quarterback. He went there too.

844
00:34:35,668 --> 00:34:37,868
Speaker 4: It's a cool thing we're talking about today. So tonight

845
00:34:37,988 --> 00:34:39,188
Speaker 4: on Amazon, which.

846
00:34:39,028 --> 00:34:41,428
Speaker 3: Is geared towards young people, the two quarterbacks are both

847
00:34:41,468 --> 00:34:41,988
Speaker 3: over forty.

848
00:34:42,268 --> 00:34:43,668
Speaker 4: It's Flacco and it's Rogers.

849
00:34:43,948 --> 00:34:46,508
Speaker 10: Does that make you smile or I mean I'm not

850
00:34:46,548 --> 00:34:48,988
Speaker 10: a huge Rogers guy, but understood not everyone is.

851
00:34:49,068 --> 00:34:50,228
Speaker 5: Yeah. I love it.

852
00:34:50,308 --> 00:34:52,548
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just think it's great, and I think it's crazy.

853
00:34:52,588 --> 00:34:54,068
Speaker 10: I think it's crazy that Joe Flacco is still a

854
00:34:54,068 --> 00:34:56,788
Speaker 10: starting quarterback in the NFL, but as a Blue hen.

855
00:34:57,748 --> 00:34:58,788
Speaker 5: Yes, I love it all right.

856
00:34:58,828 --> 00:34:59,868
Speaker 4: So here's what I know about you.

857
00:35:00,028 --> 00:35:01,868
Speaker 3: There's a passing comment that Jeff will make about it.

858
00:35:01,868 --> 00:35:04,588
Speaker 4: I'm not a huge Rogers guy. That is such a low.

859
00:35:04,748 --> 00:35:07,668
Speaker 3: Comment based on years and years of books and relationships

860
00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:09,668
Speaker 3: and research, that is not just the throwaway. So to

861
00:35:09,668 --> 00:35:11,908
Speaker 3: that point, let's do it. Jeff Proman's the perlative greatest

862
00:35:11,988 --> 00:35:14,668
Speaker 3: hits question. All of the books you've written, in all

863
00:35:14,708 --> 00:35:17,348
Speaker 3: of these figures that we've mentioned throughout this interview, who

864
00:35:17,388 --> 00:35:19,668
Speaker 3: do you think, including Tupac, who do you think is

865
00:35:19,668 --> 00:35:22,628
Speaker 3: the most interesting subject you've ever researched and written about.

866
00:35:22,908 --> 00:35:24,428
Speaker 10: I'm not just saying this because the book's coming out.

867
00:35:24,428 --> 00:35:27,028
Speaker 10: It's two bok By tell us why, because there was

868
00:35:27,068 --> 00:35:29,668
Speaker 10: a guy. I think what people don't understand about Tupac

869
00:35:29,988 --> 00:35:33,908
Speaker 10: is he grew up an absolutely abject poverty, Baltimore row

870
00:35:33,988 --> 00:35:37,268
Speaker 10: house rats, running up and down the base sports Marin City.

871
00:35:37,948 --> 00:35:40,468
Speaker 10: His mom is addicted to crack and he is basically

872
00:35:40,548 --> 00:35:44,268
Speaker 10: kicked out of the house and living with friends. Poverty, poverty, trauma, trauma,

873
00:35:44,388 --> 00:35:46,188
Speaker 10: trauma across the board.

874
00:35:46,908 --> 00:35:48,748
Speaker 5: Had his first sexual experience at fourteen.

875
00:35:48,548 --> 00:35:51,828
Speaker 10: Years old with a cousin, his second and fifteen with

876
00:35:51,908 --> 00:35:54,268
Speaker 10: a friend of his mother. Like everything about his life

877
00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:57,028
Speaker 10: was traumatic. And people look at him and they see

878
00:35:57,108 --> 00:35:58,388
Speaker 10: thug life and they see.

879
00:35:58,508 --> 00:35:59,188
Speaker 5: I get around.

880
00:35:59,588 --> 00:36:04,228
Speaker 10: But what he overcame is unlike anything anything I've ever written.

881
00:36:03,988 --> 00:36:06,148
Speaker 4: About, and you've written about it at all.

882
00:36:06,268 --> 00:36:07,388
Speaker 5: I've written about many people.

883
00:36:07,988 --> 00:36:13,588
Speaker 3: Let me follow that your books are loaded with details, anecdotes, stories,

884
00:36:13,628 --> 00:36:15,508
Speaker 3: I mean some of the things now, A lot of

885
00:36:15,508 --> 00:36:17,788
Speaker 3: the things in the Cowboys documentary we first learned about

886
00:36:17,788 --> 00:36:19,468
Speaker 3: in your book About the Cowboys years ago.

887
00:36:19,628 --> 00:36:23,188
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's fun for you. What is not I got?

888
00:36:23,548 --> 00:36:27,268
Speaker 3: What is the single most interesting little tidbit story or

889
00:36:27,308 --> 00:36:29,668
Speaker 3: anecdote that you have ever are craziest and ticketing where

890
00:36:29,668 --> 00:36:29,828
Speaker 3: you want?

891
00:36:29,908 --> 00:36:31,668
Speaker 5: Jeff, you know what I'm looking for, all right, I'm

892
00:36:31,668 --> 00:36:33,668
Speaker 5: going to go actually USFL.

893
00:36:33,428 --> 00:36:35,908
Speaker 3: And Jeff loves the FSFL wrote whole bok about. It's

894
00:36:35,908 --> 00:36:36,548
Speaker 3: incredibly thorough.

895
00:36:36,588 --> 00:36:37,708
Speaker 5: You bring Football League nites.

896
00:36:37,828 --> 00:36:39,788
Speaker 10: Yes, I just what was the story? I was thinking

897
00:36:39,788 --> 00:36:42,428
Speaker 10: about this? You gave me a heads up on this one. Yeah, okay.

898
00:36:43,108 --> 00:36:47,308
Speaker 10: They had the San Antonio gun Slingers or this dysfunctional franchise.

899
00:36:47,828 --> 00:36:48,428
Speaker 5: You need to look up.

900
00:36:48,428 --> 00:36:51,188
Speaker 10: Their helmets are like Woody from Toy Story. Yeah, and

901
00:36:51,228 --> 00:36:53,268
Speaker 10: they signed a defensive lineman named Greg Fields.

902
00:36:53,828 --> 00:36:55,068
Speaker 5: And Greg Fields was a kid out.

903
00:36:54,988 --> 00:36:56,908
Speaker 10: Of Grambling played with the Colts for a brief period

904
00:36:56,948 --> 00:36:59,708
Speaker 10: of time, was about to be cut by the Atlanta Falcons.

905
00:36:59,748 --> 00:37:01,468
Speaker 10: Would not leave the hotel room. They had to bring

906
00:37:01,508 --> 00:37:03,388
Speaker 10: a police officer to get him to leave. After he

907
00:37:03,428 --> 00:37:03,708
Speaker 10: was cut.

908
00:37:03,708 --> 00:37:04,348
Speaker 5: Here refuse leave.

909
00:37:04,908 --> 00:37:08,068
Speaker 10: He joins the gun Slingers, and the owner of the

910
00:37:08,068 --> 00:37:11,428
Speaker 10: gun Slinger stops paying players. He just stops paying Greg Fields,

911
00:37:11,428 --> 00:37:14,428
Speaker 10: and Greg told me the story. Follows him home to

912
00:37:14,548 --> 00:37:17,868
Speaker 10: his mansion in Texas, pulls a baseball bat and out

913
00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:21,308
Speaker 10: of his trunk of his car. Clinton Mangus sees in

914
00:37:21,348 --> 00:37:23,148
Speaker 10: the owner and says, Greg, what are you doing here?

915
00:37:23,268 --> 00:37:27,068
Speaker 10: He's like, I'm here to get paid. Manga says, wait

916
00:37:27,108 --> 00:37:29,988
Speaker 10: here one second, goes into the house, comes back out

917
00:37:30,468 --> 00:37:32,868
Speaker 10: with a paper bag stuff with I think it was

918
00:37:32,908 --> 00:37:36,468
Speaker 10: eighteen thousand dollars and he says, are we good? And

919
00:37:36,508 --> 00:37:38,988
Speaker 10: Fields goes, we're good, and you guys.

920
00:37:38,708 --> 00:37:41,148
Speaker 4: Off, He'll come at baseball batpoint.

921
00:37:41,188 --> 00:37:42,788
Speaker 5: It was a very Tuo poc moment for Greg Field.

922
00:37:42,788 --> 00:37:44,788
Speaker 3: You know what it all seems to come back, guys.

923
00:37:45,468 --> 00:37:48,148
Speaker 3: Only God can judge me. Jeff, tell them quickly to

924
00:37:48,268 --> 00:37:49,748
Speaker 3: where they can get it and how and all that

925
00:37:49,748 --> 00:37:50,308
Speaker 3: great stuff.

926
00:37:50,348 --> 00:37:53,348
Speaker 10: Oh online everywhere and it comes out of Fish twenty first.

927
00:37:53,908 --> 00:37:55,828
Speaker 3: October twenty first is five days.

928
00:37:55,828 --> 00:37:58,108
Speaker 4: Get this book. You will absolutely love it. I think

929
00:37:58,148 --> 00:38:00,068
Speaker 4: the absolute best in the game. Jeff prom and only

930
00:38:00,108 --> 00:38:01,548
Speaker 4: God can judge me. Go get it, guys.

931
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Speaker 2: Good morning football,