1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: I just love that. 4 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: I can hit any shot. 5 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: I kind of want we're gonna be able to tell 6 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 3: some fun stories about what goes on here to help 7 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 3: golfers play better golf. 8 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Ping proven Grounds podcast. Shane 9 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 4: Bak and Marty Jersen got Eric anders Lang with us 10 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 4: and Eric, I was thinking about your journey the last 11 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 4: couple of days into golf. Did it start with adventures 12 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: in golf? Is that kind of your first step into 13 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 4: that space, like the media golf world. 14 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like the that's like the evidence that 15 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: exists in the world. But there's there was a couple 16 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: of years before that. 17 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Okay, what were you doing before that? 18 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: But you were a part of it? 19 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 20 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that at back nine Network? 21 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, that network, babe? 22 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: You remember that? 23 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? My fit that was my first step into TV 24 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: was back then. Word. 25 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: I didn't realize that you were that involved early into it. 26 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you'd had a part in it, 27 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: but what were you doing with that crew? 28 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Well? 29 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: The only reason I was on Back nine Network, which, 30 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: by the way, I can't believe that was your first 31 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: foray into being camera because you were such a professional. 32 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: Ill appreciate it. 33 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: And I had the best time over there. But that 34 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: was when we were talking about a film that is 35 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: this kind of it's this kind of piece of lore. Right, 36 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: So I was working on this documentary about golf and meditation, 37 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: which has never seen the light of day. It exists, 38 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: it's edited, it's sort of so they have a term 39 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: in Hollywood for a film that gets made but doesn't 40 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: get released, and it's called turnaround. And so basically, you know, 41 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the film exists, and we've actually had some conversations recently 42 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: with the PGA Tour, whom is a large you know, 43 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: they're entitled to a lot of the rights of the footage. 44 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of like mid twenty ten's kind 45 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: of archive. But anyway, so that film was about golf 46 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and meditation, and so we did an experiment where we 47 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: taught golfers of different skill levels to meditate with no 48 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: other swing instruction, to see if meditation alone could improve 49 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: your results in golf. And the answer was unanimous. All 50 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: the fifty golfers who went through the study got better 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: at the game. But that then then there's like a 52 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: dovetail within that where I made this trailer to raise 53 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: money for the film on like Kickstarter, and I got 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: a phone call from the PGA tour and they were like, hey, 55 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: you need to take this video down or we're gonna 56 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: sue you. Gotcha? And I was like, well, I'm a 57 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: child and I have no assets that you could get. 58 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: You if you want to assume me, you can have 59 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: like my shirts in a couple of kairs. 60 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Of I was like, my pants don't even fit, so 61 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: taking them away from it was a thrift store guy. 62 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: But then I got another phone call from a gentleman 63 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: from the tour and he said, hey, this is SO 64 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: and so from the PGA tour and I said, look, 65 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't know what to do. You know, 66 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of raising money and I apologize 67 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: and he was like, what are you talking about. We 68 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: want to hire you to be the face of a 69 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: new generation of golfers, right, golfers changing, and we think 70 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: your take on the game as a host could be interested. 71 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, no, thanks, I don't 72 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: want to be a host. And then he was like, well, 73 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll pay you to do whatever you want and I 74 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: was like, never mind, I'll do whatever whatever I have 75 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: to do to receive this job. So that was really 76 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, and Adventures in Golf was the first 77 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: thing that people saw, But there was a handful of 78 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: years of becoming fascinated by golf, falling in love with golf, 79 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, just watching golf clips, and there wasn't a 80 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: lot out there at that time in twenty ten. 81 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the interesting thing I want to ask 82 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: you about you and meditation, because I mean, you were 83 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: always trying different stuff and I'd love to know if 84 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: you've ever tried to, Marty. But you know, the interesting 85 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: about back in my network not to like talk about 86 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: our past, but kind of feels a little ahead of 87 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: its time now that you look back on it. I mean, 88 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: this is twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. I don't know how 89 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: much you new about it, Marty, but it was a 90 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: group of people that were trying to talk about golf 91 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: in a different way and bring in younger people. And 92 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: some of the videos and some of the even the 93 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: some of the stuff they bought in, like those are 94 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: the range Picker team and like the ones that would 95 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: go out on the swamps and stuff. 96 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Like that. 97 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean some of that stuff now would would play 98 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: you know well. 99 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, actually, you're totally right. Back nine 100 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: was sort of this this really great like roll up 101 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: of golf content that right now you see it in 102 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: st Andrey, right, you see it in Roger Steel, right, 103 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: you see it even in Good Good almost like you 104 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: know you're a great player, you were involved. I think 105 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to make something grassroots and real, like you 106 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: think about music, right, like Nirvana that was started in 107 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: a garage, that was just pure passion. And when you 108 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: look at all the names I just listed, like individuals 109 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: taking advantage of the ability to you know, create and 110 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: post and host their own content, have their own POV, 111 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: that's hard to do from a corporate standpoint, right, And 112 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: so I think back nine it was totally ahead of 113 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: its time, but it would also be hard to really, 114 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: I think, maintain that sense of authorship, right. And I 115 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: think on some level it was also just too early content. 116 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: What content did you like? 117 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Eric? 118 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: Just of older content, older storytelling and golf, like even 119 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: before the two thousands, you don't do anything come to 120 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: mind for well. 121 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: I didn't get into golf until two thousand and nine. Ok. 122 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: So I was like, actually not even not into golf. 123 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: I was like anti golf, right, I did not want 124 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 1: to play golf. I was not interested in the game. 125 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: My brother, ten years older than me, was sort of 126 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: the traditional golfer and I didn't want to. 127 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: Be like him. 128 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: So really not. But when I got into golf, Matt Janella, 129 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: he was kind of this adventurer, storyteller, great writer, great photographer, 130 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: and I remember me one of my good good friends 131 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: from childhood. He and I had gotten into golf separately, 132 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: and I remember we were both talking one day and 133 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: we're like, there's this guy, Matt Janella who goes out 134 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: and just plays these great golf courses and takes photos 135 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and writes stories about it. And we were both so 136 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: inspired by that. And this was the time where Instagram 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: had no video, right yeah, and you couldn't zoom into 138 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: the photos and it was like I don't even know 139 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: if there were carousels. 140 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you only was like one picture, one photo, that 141 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: was it. 142 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: And so like Janella to posts a picture of the 143 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: ghost Tree and he would tell you about the ghost Tree, 144 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: and it was really like a really novel concept of 145 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: like how can I learn more about this game that 146 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: is like truly rich in terms of you know, personality, place, culture, 147 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: all these things. And so Janello was really for me 148 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: like inspirational figure in terms of what's possible. 149 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you think about golf now in your journey, 150 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: I mean twenty twenty five and you're doing so many 151 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 4: different things in terms of what you do around golf, 152 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: Like what is your relationship with it now? I mean 153 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: are you in love? 154 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: Like? 155 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: Is it something that you love? I mean, it's part 156 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: of your business, it's part of who you are. But 157 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: like do you get excited to go out and play still? 158 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: I mean is it something that you want to do 159 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: on a daily basis? 160 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've gone up and down, as I'm sure you 161 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: guys have as well, right, I mean you spend every 162 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: day kind of thinking about some version of golf, whether 163 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: it's the business of golf or the golf swing or 164 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: the equipment right or the content. But yeah, right now 165 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: I am absolutely in love with golf, and I'm ashamed 166 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: to admit that it's because I watched a thirty second 167 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: swing tip that really just figured everything out for me. 168 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: And now you sound like my uncle right now, my 169 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: uncle's on Instagram like figuring out golf. 170 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: On the thirty second YouTube, it. 171 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Was it's a video of Rory. I've screen recorded it 172 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: so I don't lose it. And it's a video of 173 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: Rory at night, like after sunset, and there's even bleeps 174 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: in the video, like it's just a cell phone video 175 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: of him talking to maybe his friend about his takeaway 176 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: and how he's trying to keep his arms outside. And 177 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: then the swing really is just one move and so 178 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: and for me, I've got this. 179 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Problem the chicken for people listening, yeah, yeah, And. 180 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: This is why you never want to emulate Scheffler swing. 181 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: You don't even want to watch him swing. In my opinion, 182 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: him and Norman and everybody just like, don't even get 183 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: so anyway, this is this Rory. Rory's got the best 184 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: swing on tour, I think. So it's so compact, and 185 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: it's so the tempo is so nice, and he moves 186 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: so well through the ball that I just watched that 187 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: video about seventy times, and the last three rounds I've 188 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: played have gotten lower and lower and lower, and as 189 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: a six handicap, I can easily shoot mid eighties and 190 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: right and still kind of be satisfied. But now I 191 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm about to just sort of hit several 192 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: rounds in the seventies. 193 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: Marty. 194 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: Your love of golf, I mean, it's your business, and 195 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: I mean you've created golf clubs and it's been a 196 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: big part of who you are. Does how you play 197 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: kind of coincide with how much you like it at 198 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: the time? 199 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 200 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah. 201 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: No. 202 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: I think if it's like I get, I go in waves, 203 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: just like you Eric, like little highs and lows. Last 204 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: summer I was on a high, like I was into it, 205 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: My kids were into it, My equipment was good. You know, 206 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: I had a good groove on practicing, the scores were 207 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: were showing up with the works. I was getting rewarded. 208 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 3: I just got that momentum. 209 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 210 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, but I've had other times where you got 211 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: a lot of life, a lot going on in life, 212 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: and you just got to let it down. But what 213 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: I love about golf is a game for a lifetime. 214 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 215 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: So it's like it's okay if you have a bad year, 216 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: like you can get it back, just put the effort in. 217 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: I remember focus second twenty two I had that. I 218 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: had a good summer and like you know, qualify for 219 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: the amateur and do all this stuff, and then I 220 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: remember the next year, the first two tournaments I played in, 221 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: I played like a total dog and it's like. 222 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: Is this who I am now? You know, like is 223 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: this the golfer that I am now? And you have 224 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: to remind yourself that it's that's such a micro version 225 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 4: of who you are as a golfer, and like, look 226 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: at the macro and what you're able to accomplish. I mean, 227 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: you've done so many things, Eric. I want to talk 228 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: about the random golf club because when this popped up, 229 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: I remember it was a novel concept. 230 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: I was very interested in what you were doing with it. 231 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: And then it's you know, you were a guy like 232 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: you've talked about being a country club guy and then 233 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: kind of stepping away from that and wanting to following 234 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: what you're talking about. So when you do these mad 235 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: scrambles and you get all these people out of the 236 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: golf course like Dobson Ranch, I know you've done that 237 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: in Arizona. Like, what's the fulfillment for you at the 238 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: end of the day? 239 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, uh, well, it's interesting to come 240 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: off of the previous question, which is you know my 241 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: golf game right right, and I have this kind of 242 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: it's sort of a weird, weird take, but I actually 243 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: think golf is an inherently selfish game for sure, which 244 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: is okay. But the best example is you're playing mediocre. 245 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys are probably beyond this in 246 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: terms of a social awareness golf, I Q standpoint. But 247 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: for me, I've experienced this on my own, which is 248 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm playing below what I was expecting, and it's all 249 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: that it's about. Yep, no matter who's around me, no 250 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: matter who I'm playing with, Like. 251 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 4: You kind of get quiet, you're not talking like yeah, 252 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: and you're not being rude. 253 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: Nope, you're not being like mean to other people. 254 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm sulking. 255 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're kind of in your own little like bubble. Yeah. 256 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm allowed to salve for sure, because I 257 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: should have made that putt. And there's a story of 258 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Bill Murray story where he's playing in a prom. These 259 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: guys have paid ten thousand dollars to bee in his 260 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: group and he's on the tenth te box. So he's 261 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: halfway through the round and he says, look, if I 262 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: hit a good drive, I'll be happy in jovial for 263 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the round. But if I had a 264 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: bad drive. I'm not talking for the rest of the round, 265 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: and you know, you hit a bad drive and didn't 266 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: say another word. And I mean he's obviously, you know, 267 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: involved in some other type of experience of being a human. 268 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think golf has that inherent 269 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: selfishness too, where it's like my attitude and my ability 270 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: to kind of ask other people about their shots or 271 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: their lives or like what's going on at work, it 272 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: goes away the worst I play, which is sort of 273 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: I believe that maybe the biggest lesson in golf is 274 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: to let my score and my ball striking be secondary 275 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: to my experience. Yep. And so that's one side of it. 276 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: But the other side is your question about random Golf 277 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: Club is you know for me, you know, we host 278 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: these great events. It's one hundred people come out. Everyone 279 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: gets a chance to hang out and play and hit 280 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: and you know, we all are on the same team 281 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and so we pretty much birdy every hole except for 282 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: the holes we eagle. And you know, it's wild and 283 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: you can be a part of something without even really 284 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: contributing to whatever the score is. But but you're a 285 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: part of this kind of like really like a metaphor 286 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: of like, together we're greater than we are as a 287 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: as an individual and so. And really the crescendo of 288 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: that for me is at the end of those events, 289 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: when people come out and they're nervous and you're hitting 290 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: a ball in front of one hundred people. It's like 291 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: not normal. Most of us out there are you know, 292 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: high single digits, double digits, new to golf. And at 293 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: the end of it all, there's this kind of glow 294 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: where people realize they've found a group of people. 295 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: There's a kinship involved in all the Oh you're doing. 296 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: It totally and and and what's funny is very rarely 297 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: if we were playing golf, three of us were playing 298 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: golf and you topped it, I would laugh. 299 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: I would expect you to laugh. 300 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: And that's because that's something I've learned, right, is that 301 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: that is what should happen. 302 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: Well, I remember, you know, there's different cultures in the 303 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: way we react to golf, and America is probably the 304 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: most serious culture about it. But you know, if you 305 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: go to like Asian countries and you've traveled over the 306 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: world and played golf everywhere, but there is that laughing 307 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: about bad golf clups. That was something when I caddied 308 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: at the old course, you know, out of college, and 309 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 4: you'd get these groups of players from Korea and you're 310 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: being a bunker leaving in the bunker, and they would 311 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: be laughing at their friend, and the friend wouldn't be 312 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: taking it offensively, right, they would be kind of in 313 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: on the joke. And I just love that approach to 314 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: the game because again, I do feel like the moment 315 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: your buddy starts going south, everybody kind of wants to 316 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: step away from them because you know they're either going 317 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: to blow up or they're struggling, or they're kind of 318 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: going to that place we were talking about earlier. 319 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: And that's and that's the unfortunate thing is because then 320 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: as a spectator or a partner, you're co signing the sulk, right, 321 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: And that's what Random Golf Club really aims to, like, 322 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: you know combat, which is like, oh my god, you 323 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: missed the ball completely, that's amazing. You know, you get 324 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: a whole other shot and nobody cares. 325 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: It's all good. 326 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: That's where did you get inspiration? Where where do your 327 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: ideas come from? You know you see them from in 328 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: other places. 329 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: Well, well, the. 330 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Random Golf club inspiration was really too experienced. One is 331 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: I was. They happened around the same time. One was 332 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to be married to a woman 333 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: who insisted that we joined a private club. I said, fine, 334 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford it on my own, but but we 335 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: joined and I thought it was great. And after three 336 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: years I realized I didn't need to be a member 337 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: there anymore because I just felt like there were so 338 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: many other types of people that play golf. And I 339 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: really liked the municipal golf courses in LA. They're so rich, 340 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: they're so real, and the golf was fine. Yeah, but 341 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: the golf was very The greens were great, and they 342 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: weren't the problem, right, My problem was the stuff, and 343 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: it's around the greens. And so I drove out of 344 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: the golf course after quitting one day, and I just 345 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: walked in the club and I said, I quit. I 346 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be a member anymore, and they were 347 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: like WHOA. I was like, you know, everything's fine, you 348 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: guys are cool. I'm cool. I'm just doing a different thing. 349 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: And on my way out, the door opened and I 350 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: was like, man, they're the gate. You know, there's a 351 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: gate to the parking lot. I guess you can't get it. 352 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: You can't sneak in, which is amazing. And I was 353 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: the gate open and I was like, man, it'd be 354 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: cool there was a club where anyone could play golf 355 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: with anyone else anywhere. And then I sort of chuckled 356 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: as I rolled over the spike strip, you know, and 357 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I was like, it'd be cool if it was called 358 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Random Golf Club. So that was kind of the original idea. 359 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: And then right after that, I was in Australia and 360 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: I had gotten a couple dms from some dudes that 361 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: wanted to play golf, and I said yes to everybody, 362 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: and after four days I had somehow accepted eleven invitations 363 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: to play golf, and I realized, I only have two 364 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: days left in this country. Let's all meet at Royal Park, 365 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: which is a little nine hole executive course right in 366 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: the middle of Melbourne. I was like, let's just all 367 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: meet there, and so we get to the clubhouse on 368 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Friday at five o'clock. I walked into the pro shop 369 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, what's your name, Tom, Tom? Look, 370 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: is there any chance the eleven of us could play 371 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: as one group? And he was like, no, ilet's say 372 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: a problem with that, And so first hole little awkward, 373 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: second hole less awkward. By the time we're at the 374 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: ninth hole were old friends. And Tom comes out of 375 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: the pro shop and he says, hey, I got glow balls. 376 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: If you want to keep playing, I'll join you. So 377 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: we play four more holes in the dark. We get 378 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: back to the clubhouse again. Yeah, and now we got 379 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: to twelve and then there were twelve and we get 380 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: back to the press shop and he says, hey, look, 381 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll open up if you guys want to grab some drinks. 382 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: We can hang out here forever, hung out till midnight. 383 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: We all exchange numbers. And that was when I first saw. 384 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: When I left the parking lot at Wilshre Country Club 385 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: in LA, That's when I first saw how a golf 386 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: club can be created in a truly random environment where 387 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: all of us had really one thing in common. And 388 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: that almost seemed richer than being a member of a 389 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: private club where there's a selection committee. You obviously have 390 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: a certain salary, you live in a certain area for 391 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: some reason. You also happen to sell insurance. Whatever it 392 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: is you know, whatever type of club you're at. Random 393 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: golf club really seemed like there was an opportunity to 394 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: just bring together people who really love golf. And the 395 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: difference is that we have actually strengthened what we can 396 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: learn from each other on the golf course. 397 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know, you did one of your mad scrambles 398 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: at Doobts and ran. So when I lived in Arizona, 399 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: I played in a money game. And we've talked a 400 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: lot about Friday Adopts and which has kind of gone away, 401 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: which is such a bummer, But there was a Friday 402 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: honey game every Friday adoptson and what you talk about 403 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: with random Golf Club is is very much like what 404 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: the Friday game was Adopts and where it would be 405 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: a group of seventy or eighty people and you'd have 406 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: private club golfers there that were coming down from the 407 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: Astantias and from you know, the silver Leafs in place 408 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: like that to play in this money game. But I 409 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: would play with a construction guy every Friday. And I 410 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 4: would play with a guy that was like he worked 411 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: in tech, and you could wear jeans, and you could 412 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 4: wear a T shirt, but you could wear your polo. 413 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: And all that stuff. 414 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: And I always found that Friday game my favorite golf 415 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: because it felt it felt inclusive, but it didn't feel 416 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 4: like it was forcing everybody to be inclusive. It was like, 417 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: you're coming out because you want to play golf and 418 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 4: you want to play with this group. You might win 419 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 4: a hundred bucks, you might not, but we're all gonna 420 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: sit around and have some beers after and enjoy it, 421 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: you know well. 422 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: And I think also there's there's something about mindset when 423 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: you look at you know that when you when you 424 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: bring together that group of people, that there tends to 425 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: be an optimism and that's really valuable. And I found like, look, 426 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: I just as much as anybody else, Like I love 427 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: a nice private course, ye for sure. I love great greens. 428 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: I love like yesterday. We were at San the other 429 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: day thanks to John, and I remember I was on 430 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the range and I hit I put my wedge away 431 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: and he goes, can I wait clean that for you? 432 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 4: And I was like, they like happened upon you at 433 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: times and You're like, who's this guy? 434 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: He's a cleaner guy, clean my club between shots on 435 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: the range. 436 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: Sweet. 437 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: But there's honestly some part of that that I think, 438 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's not really golf, that's that's service, right. 439 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: That's that's like a hotel or a restaurant. Golf is 440 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: is just sort of going out and being like, where's 441 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: the ball gonna go? And who do I want to 442 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: walk with? And and that happens I think more often 443 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: at places like Dobson Range, and I think that's why 444 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: Matt and the team there has done such a great 445 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: job and why I hope the next ten years seems 446 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: sees even more places like that. It's probably like grass clippings. Wow, yeah, 447 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: really cool, love it. 448 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: Eric. 449 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: Now, you started your journey here in partnership with with Paying. 450 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: You talked about John John K Solheim, our president CEO. 451 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: You guys started off kicking off with the break ninety 452 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: at Pinehurst last summer. Tell us a little bit about 453 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: that and what are you excited about with your relationship 454 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: now with with us hare Ping? 455 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Well, Ping for me has long been h you know, 456 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: a product and a brand and and kind of like 457 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, you know, I don't know 458 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: if you guys remember when before before you had the 459 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: keys to golf, you know what I mean, when you 460 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: were just like on the outside, you know, you're looking 461 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: at all these brands and for some reason, ping always 462 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: resonated with me. And it was the first set of 463 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: clubs I ever bought. And which were they? What were they? 464 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: I had? I had, I was misfitted. I got black 465 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Dot iTunes off Crankslist. Yeah, I had to regrip them. 466 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: They were wrapped in a rubber band, you know. But 467 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: I want to tell stories in golf, and I want 468 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: to you know, be a part of talking about why 469 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: I care about what I care about, right, And you know, 470 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: going back to all the random golf club history moments 471 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: like those are things that are about authenticity. Those are 472 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: things are about real experiences. And you know, the more 473 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: I learned about the golf industry, the more I learned 474 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: that paying really is unique. But a lot of people 475 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: didn't know that. And so that was really where I thought, man, Like, 476 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity to create great content with a company 477 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: that cares maybe more about their customer than any of 478 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: their competitors. And it shows up in all these different ways, right, 479 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: whether it's the commitment to engineering, the commitment to design, 480 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, the commitment to the team, right, the staff 481 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: that makes these products, the customers, the retailers that sell 482 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: the products. You know, they're all treated differently, and so 483 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, the more I learn about all this stuff, 484 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: the more I just got really really excited about it. 485 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: But I kept hitting dead ends, and so finally I 486 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: was like, I need to meet John. I need to 487 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: meet John K. Solheim. And so we had dinner. It's 488 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: almost exactly a year ago, and he didn't know I was, 489 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about what I do, and I was like, Hey, 490 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to propose something to you. And so that 491 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of began this process where I was able to 492 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: get a foot in the door here, which you know, 493 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: for me was really exciting and it reakes me really 494 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: proud because I care so much about not only the 495 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: things that we look at when we're filming, but also 496 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: how people respond when we share it. Right, So we 497 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: have this community that watches our content, right, it's like 498 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: and it's like so rewarding for me to see that 499 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: people get it, people get why Random Golf Club and 500 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Paying make a great partnership. And I think it's because 501 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: of that authenticity and that commitment to quality. And so 502 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: it's been really fun to learn more. And this is 503 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: probably I guess I had never been to this location. 504 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, we're at the headquarters here as of January 505 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: of last year. I've been here like seven times since, 506 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And James got me fitted 507 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: and like I've just really enjoyed the journey. So I 508 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: don't know if I answered your question, but yeah, for me, 509 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: it's just it. It just feels good. 510 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Marty. 511 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 4: The wall always stands out to me. When you go 512 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: on the wall and you see the years that employees 513 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: have been here, it's always just so crazy, like twenty five, thirty, 514 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 4: forty years, you know, and we talked so much. We 515 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: have so many players on here that talk about the 516 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: Ping family. Yeah, you know what, And it does feel 517 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 4: I don't know if you get the same vibe, but 518 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: I felt it for a long time. It's like you 519 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: feel like you're a part of the Ping family now, 520 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: you know, like like now you're in here and you 521 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: know people's names and you know who does what, and 522 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: you know when you come back, they're still gonna be here. Yeah, 523 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: because they care about it as well. 524 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: There was a there was a moment yesterday during the 525 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: pro am where we were playing and you know, on 526 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: on the our eleventh hole, the first t came out 527 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: and joined us and they carried MATV mcneely's bag and 528 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: at the end on the green one of the kids 529 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: said to me. 530 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: Are you part of the Ping family? 531 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: And I looked at John and I was like, and 532 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: John goes, I have the adoption paperwork at my desk. 533 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Clothes. It's gonna work out before we let you go. 534 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: I did want to ask one thing about adventures in golf, 535 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: and I know you to get this question a lot. 536 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: Is there one destination, one place that kind of stands 537 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: out above the rest for you? 538 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, we have been trying to get to South America 539 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: for the last five years, and there's a whole like 540 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: we we have like every episode scripted out. We know 541 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: who's in the episodes. You know, we're down on New 542 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: Shuaia at the southern tip of like kind of Tira 543 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: Dope Weggo. There's a nine hole course we're in. You know, 544 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: in Buenos Aires there's a an Alistair McKenzie course. You know. 545 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: Uruguay you know has these like there's like these links courses. 546 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: There's a course at the highest course of the world. 547 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: In Bolivia, yep, there's an Amazon course right when you 548 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: get a machete at the tea box. And we have 549 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: literally scripted out these episodes we've were on WhatsApp. I 550 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: know everybody in these locations, they're all aware of us. 551 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: It's been hard to do because of the hemispheres. So 552 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: you need to shoot these episodes in you know, December, January, February, March. 553 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: If you go in this in our summer, it'd be 554 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: too cold in these places. So but for some reason, 555 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: the time, you know, it ever works out. I don't 556 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: know when we're gonna go. I've never been to South America. 557 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: It feels like a total tragedy. But yeah, no, I 558 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: cannot wait. I speak just enough Spanish to get myself 559 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: in trouble, so I'm really looking forward to that. Part 560 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: of it too, is it's like, if I'm gonna go, 561 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: I don't want to go for eleven days, right, I 562 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: want to go for like a month and a half, correct, 563 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: you know? And so that's that's my white Well, okay, 564 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: South America. 565 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: South America. Did not expect that to be the answer. 566 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: That's cool. 567 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: I know that no Lane up voice just win and 568 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 4: the videos looked unbelievable from there, so yeah, that makes 569 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: a lot of sense. Well, Eric, I appreciate the time 570 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: as always a good catching up with you so cool 571 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: that you're kind of what you're doing and your involvement 572 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: with ping, and we appreciate it. 573 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: This is the Ping proven Grounds podcast.