WEBVTT - You Almost Had Him 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.239 Hello everybody, and welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.599 It is that time we get to wrap up roam 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.759 and we get to talk about the upcoming tournament called 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.160 the French Open or is it now Roland Garross? What 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.000 are they calling it? You know who wasn't happy about it? 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.239 Shaquille o'niel's calling at the French Open? No, did you know? 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.360 It was Charles Barclay who was given it the ship 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:38.879 Charles Barker was like, why would you change it from 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.199 the from French Open to Rolling Girls? Nobody knows who 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:41.800 rolling girls? 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:42.720 I'm not calling at that. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.279 I was like, that's not a good way to get 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:46.680 off on the T and T foot And. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.880 The other guy was like, uh, we won't be using 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.159 that as our broadcasting. Just a ting jingle for the 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.480 upcoming coverage, and which is hilarious. They have so many commentators, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.200 but they didn't pick all the good ones. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.760 Oh well, I'm not gonna stay out of that eye. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.840 I mean, it wasn't dying about you. I was just 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:02.680 talking about the other guy. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.160 I still out of that argument. Although if anyone is 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.600 listening to our podcasts, and who does work for Warner HBO, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.400 Max who knows, people who know people, let them know. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.960 I'd I'd love to do the French open for them. 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.600 It just feels like my rule, this is my rule, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.000 this is Marinee's rule, but my rule is yes. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.840 I just want to preface this. I had nothing to 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.440 do with whatever's coming out of her mouth. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:30.840 I just think it is time for us to assess, 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.440 especially when a new network gets a new gets a 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.600 new coverage of a slam. Yeah, it's time for us 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:37.959 to assess, like, hey, who are the people who are 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:39.560 already in the field doing great? Who are some new 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.840 voices we can emphasize. I was thrilled to see that 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.200 they got Chris Eubanks. I was, Yes, that's Salon Stevens 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.840 will joined their coverage under Agacy whenever he dropped by 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.080 the booth, which is not often but every time, it's amazing. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.400 He's going to do two or three days. Yeah, I 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.040 doubt he's saying with Venus. I don't know how much 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.880 Venus is going to do. I think Venus is apparently 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.400 from what I'm hearing, I don't know, actually, but from 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.400 what I've heard, she's doing some features and stuff, not 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.800 really necess are really commentating. I don't know we'll find out. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.200 I'll watch Venus do literally anything. I just think my 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.320 rule is, if you haven't played or coached, played or 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:14.080 coached at the pro level in this century, maybe. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.600 In this century. That's what I'm saying. This century. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.919 It's pretty wide ranging. I leave a lot of room. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.320 I haven't made it into this century. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.079 You've both played and coached in this century? Yes, I 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.600 just think there is a there is a benefit to 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.960 being to staying close to the game, either as a no, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.440 it's not where as a coach. I think maybe some 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.120 of the voices that have not played the century or 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.799 coach can just you know, they got enough money. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:36.440 Like what do we do? 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.760 I just, you know, let's make some room for some 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.880 new uh from new voices. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.160 Anyway, again, asterisk next to that, I had nothing to 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.000 do with even we didn't even talk about this. We 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.680 have our little thing that we're going to talk about, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.880 and that did not come up. So for anyone who 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.800 listens to our podcast who is working for A T 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.840 and T wanna, it was not made that brought that up. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.760 But then again, I am I'm. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.919 Going to watch all of it, and I am he 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.480 excited about some voices and not excited about it. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.679 I will say this, and this might be a little controversial, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.600 and I might get in trouble for this, but what's 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.919 fucking new in the world of Rene stops when it 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.800 comes to the one liners. But I love Jimmy Arius, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.960 and I really there's certain people on Tennis channel that 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.600 I actually when I listen to them, I go, oh, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.880 you know, that makes sense or whatever. And some of 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.360 the content text is really good. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:22.639 But. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.560 Boy, oh boy, he was talking over the points a 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.600 lot in Rome and listen again, I am not perfect. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.960 There are certain things about my commentary that I watch myself, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.680 and I am hard on my soul and my oh geez, 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.240 I talked too much there. I probably could have pulled 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.520 out there. YadA, YadA, yadda. But one rule I have is, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.000 even if I'm in the middle of a conversation, I 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.920 will stop before the start of the point. And you know, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.120 if anyone says I don't do that, that is crap. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.440 I'm a big believer in not talking over the point. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:51.200 Now. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.080 I might talk in between first and second serves every 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.040 now and again, but that's rare as well. But I 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.720 don't know what was going on him and Mark Petchy 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.200 would just having a waffle on for a lot of 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.800 the points that were going on. I'm like, guys, you've 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.040 got to have more discipline than that. Your context and 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.560 what you're saying was awesome. Everything that was saying was right, 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.360 Everything they said was good. Both of them are great, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.520 But you got to have better discipline. You can't talk 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.280 over the point. It really it really bothered me this time, 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.599 Like I was like, okay, once I can handle it. Okay, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.840 twice we've all done it. Maybe we want to get 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.840 that point out. It kind of sounds dumb to just 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.320 stop in the middle of this particular comment, but it 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.320 happened over and over and over again, and I was like, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.200 what is happening? Are they having seizures? It was bothering me. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.520 It bothered me a lot this time. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:39.800 I mean, there's no shortage of critiques and kudos that 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.039 we can spread and sprinkle around the contrary because Mark. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.839 Petchy's like him. Both him and they were spot on 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.680 with their analysis. They were great with the analysis, but guys, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.479 you got to you can't talk over the points. It 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.159 was pissing me off. And sometimes it happens when you 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.200 were calling from a booth in another country, like I've 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.640 done the Olympics from Connecticut and I'm calling it in Tokyo, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.400 I'm calling in Brazil or whatever. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:01.680 You know. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.919 Last one was in Paris. There are times we have 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.000 a time lag and the same thing happens to us 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.839 in Australia. We have a bit of a time lag 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.279 with it going back to Connecticut and coming back to Australia, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.159 and so we have to be really conscious of like 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.599 getting our words out because the points already started. But 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.440 in the States the point hasn't finished. It's like it's 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.920 not easy to do it right. But they were in Rome, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.400 they were actually there, so they were watching the match live. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.760 So I'm like, there is no excuses for you guys 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:26.919 to be talking over the point. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.000 I feel like with commentary lessu's more. If I noticed 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.800 the commentary, I want it to be insane film. Then 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.440 I don't want to think about it again. I wanted 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:34.880 to only enhance my viewing. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.160 Yeah, I really, That's why I like Lindsay Davenport so much. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:38.960 I think Lindsay's great. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.520 Yeah, she does a great job. Yeah, and she's commentating. Okay, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.400 So friend Jubin has started actually the qualifying matches and. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.880 It was on Max, so if you have Max you 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.360 can see even callfying. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.560 Which is really cool. I watched Bibi Undrescue when her 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.480 first round, yes, in a very tidy fashion. I think 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.800 it was yesterday morning. And uh yeah, I've been watching Strasbourg. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.640 Watched Little Out of Canu this morning playing Daria. Kassakina 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.640 got her first win in four tries over Daria. Just 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.240 I love tennis. I love that it's on. I love 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:08.680 that it's on in the morning, and the French Open 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.920 is and pon us I'm so excited. Yeah, let's wrap 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.320 up Rome because most people think about Rome, and we've 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:15.880 talked a lot about the clear seasons so far. We 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.680 talked about Monto Carlo, we talked about Barcelona, obviously Madrid 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.200 which had both the men's and women's, but really the 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.440 precursor and the best indicator is Rome. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.839 Yeah, I've always said it. It's always been for me 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.800 the best indicator of you know, it's just very similar 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.240 the conditions to Paris. So for the fact that we 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.760 saw Carlos and Paulini is really interesting because you think 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.000 about it, you've got last year's winner in the men's 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.120 and then you've got the last year's finalists who was 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.120 probably absolutely out of her mind going into that final 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.200 last year, going what the air am I doing here? 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.000 But this year, look out, little Jazzy, and you know 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:58.560 how I feel about Jasmine. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.919 You have been on I'm on the Paulini train since 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.159 well before last year's French Opens, certainly well before last 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.440 year's Wimbledon and last year's Olympics. She's got a lot 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.400 of points to defend, and now it's looking like, hey, 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.920 totally feasible scrambling around takes. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.560 She just got a thousand points this way. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.840 I gotta say, and we should talk a little bit 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.760 about EGA in this coming tournament, because now that EGA's 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.800 ranking puts her out of the top four, she's not 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.640 going to be seated in the top four, which means 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.800 she's going to be in somebody dangerous' quarter of the draw, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.280 which is in and of itself interesting. But I got 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.600 to say, like, yeah, to your point, Paulini going into 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.120 the final of Roland Garros last year against Ego, who's 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.360 won it so many times, starts to look a little different. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.240 Now that Paulini has gotten this not only single title, 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.480 but also doubles title at home in front of a 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.960 home crowd in Rome, just like so so so excited. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.040 Back to back. They won the doubles last year as well, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.000 and so they got another win there. It kind of 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.680 feels like, you know, the French, where she did so 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.240 well at the French was she won the doubles and 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.800 then she losing the finals of the doubles of the French. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.120 So she won I think she wanted last year, or 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.720 if she didn't, she was definitely in the final. So 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.920 she's gone back to back, you know finals there. Look, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.040 she plays great on clay, her variety, her not missing, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.320 she has a great serve, a great kickserve, and so 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.520 and she is teeny tiny, peeny piece. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.000 It's gonna say she moves so well because she anticipates 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.480 really well, and even though she's little, she moves around 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.120 the court so well. And she gets around. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.679 Yeah, she gets around. She's a great mover. She slides 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.480 really well on clay. She utilizes that ability so well. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.400 But she pops the ball too. She really clocks the forehand, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.640 she hits a big backhand. There are so many things 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.760 about this particular match that showed you how important it 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.360 is to have such good technique on every shot. And 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.400 not only that, she has this joy about her that 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.760 is so infectious. Like there was one particular shot where 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.720 she slid up to a Coco hit a really good 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.880 little drop shot and she hustled her ass up to 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.560 this ball and she slid to it. And sometimes you 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.480 slide so much, you actually slide like out of your 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.359 not out of your shoe, but you slip and fall. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.840 And she fell on the ground. Didn't hurt herself, She 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.840 just kind of fell on her butt, and she was 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.920 she was smiling through the slide. She she smiled, smiled. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.440 After she fell, she looked at Coco, gave her the 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.400 thumbs up, went to the towel, looked over her. People smiled, laughed, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.360 and it was actually a massive point in the match. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.680 And I thought to myself, Oh my god, if I'd 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.520 only had that joy, Like everything is a joy for her. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.480 Even when she was she'd get a little bit tight 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.760 or not, she would step up, she was smiling. She's 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.880 just I have I have loved this kid forever, Like 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.640 I told you, I saw her play for the first 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.040 time in Prague at a really small like one twenty five. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.319 It was during COVID times, and I remember her playing 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.760 collies at this tournament. I was like Who is this kid? 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.400 She's so good, there's not a weakness. She had. Backhand's great, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.760 forehand looks good, serves good. Wow, she hits the ball well, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.880 she moves well. Why is why's she in qualifying? That's 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.440 what I thought. And then slowly over time she has 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.280 just chipped away, chipped away a lot of work with 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.360 her coach, Ronzo Fulan, and now has a new coach 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.560 in her, which I thought was an interesting move because 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.599 she had been with Ferland for years and years and 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.520 years and had stuck with him forever, and then she 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.240 had a change and is now with Mark Lopez. Of course, 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.320 of Ruffia and Nadal fame. Who was you know, Ruffia 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.840 and Nadal's doubles partner when he won the gold medal 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.800 doubles at whatever Olympics it was. And then he was 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.520 with Rafa in his coaching box sort of helping as 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.120 a hitting partner. Played a lot of doubles with Rafa. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.040 I mean, what a great person to have in your 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.760 player's box now and teaching you and new things and 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.040 work ethic and all that. And Ronzo Furlan was a 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.640 great player himself. But then you sort of get a 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.920 little bit stale you're hearing the same thing, and so 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.400 many great coaches, Darren K. Hill will say the maximum 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.400 that you should work with somebody's probably four or five years, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.040 because at some point you're just you're telling them the 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.760 same thing and you need afresh and she has gotten 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.720 that from Mark. She was not well at the side 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.400 of the year and now all of a sudden, bom 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.640 wins the biggest tournament of her career. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.680 But you know, and didn't have a waltz to get 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.839 there either. I mean she beat a red hot Peyton 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:16.320 Stearns who had taken out tons of everyone. Madison, he's 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:17.840 Elenis Videlina. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.199 I think, I don't know. But she made a couple 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:22.440 of Grand Slam champions back to. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:29.000 Back, and uh, you know her she had a Diana 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.880 Schneider and a tight three setter, like you know, she 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.079 had a she had a she battled, she battled. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.480 She battled away, and she was playing doubles. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.679 Yeah, she played a ton of ton of tennis and 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.360 she battled really well. I do want to talk about 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.320 some of the before we talk about the Coco Final. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.800 I do want to talk about two exceptional matches that 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.240 I thought were probably like contenders of matches of the year, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:55.880 which is Coco taking out Chenuen Jung seven six and 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.800 the third Oh my god, that was one of my 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.240 favorite favorite matches ever for ever in the semi and 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:06.000 that was just a brutal but incredible showing on the 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:06.720 part of Coco. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.400 Yeah, I mean that showed Coco's resilience as well as 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.760 I've ever seen because you know, and and it also 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:17.400 showed Chinwin's vulnerability because she had that match. She should 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.280 have won that mad at the end and Coco had chances, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.320 she didn't get it done. And then chin Win had 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.000 her chances and she didn't get it done, and then 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.199 got into a tie break and I think it was 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.280 four two in the tiebreak, and all of a sudden, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.280 you really saw a chin When really get nervous and 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.360 she stopped attacking the ball and she got way passive. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.600 And that's where Coco was like, because Coco's very observant 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.240 out there, she saw, she saw an opportunity to jump 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.960 on that, and she jumped on it and she was 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.720 aggressive and she got back into that tie break and 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.400 then Chinwin just went era eerror. It was crazy. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.240 Yeah, she fell a home. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.480 Yeah, she fell apart. And that that's a little concerning 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.520 because really Coco's the one with the pressure on her 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.280 there you you got to step it and finish that match. Yeah, 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.839 and they play really similar. They do play really so 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.160 I heavy four hands, flat backhands, and. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.360 They both have no problem going to the high looper, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.079 which I thought was interesting, like seeing those guys both 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:09.480 max it out and I went not on Clay it's 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.679 smart and Chinwin had just come through and beaten Sabolenka 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.600 in the first try. I mean, granted, it's a lot 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.880 easier on Clay in Rome than it is the other 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.040 times they've played each other on that courts, but yeah, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.600 I thought that was really chin One's match to lose. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.480 In credit to Coco, I think really just getting a 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:29.040 hugely confidence inspiring like battle, yeah, to get to get 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.800 through it. And I think that's something that I think 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.760 you're right. She's not only very observant, but she's so 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.800 match tough that even as you were saying, like Paolini's technique, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.800 she's so so good. Pauline's technique is so much better 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.520 than Coco's, but Coco's just got so much fight in 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.440 her and I think that that is what makes for 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.719 a really sort of compelling, you know, matchup in that 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.679 in that way. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.480 I think that you know, Chinwin and Coco played the 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.200 most similar to each other on tour. They both have heavy, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.959 top spinny fourhands. They can go off at times. Particularly 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.439 we know Coco's backhand is flat and really good. Cocos 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:08.679 is better, her back end is much better, but Genuine's forehand, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.960 in my opinion, is much better. And the second the 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.360 serves are a little bit all over the place as well. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.800 They're big when they're going in, they're working, they're awesome. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.720 When they're off, they're off. That both of them can 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.960 double fault. I mean, we saw it over and over 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.520 and over and over and over and over and over 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.760 and over and over and over again in that match 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.440 where it was a double faults that kill Coco, I mean, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:31.880 and in the end it was just her resilience and 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.280 her ability to fight through those difficult moments that were 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.720 able to get the win. You know, now going into 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:43.520 the final, it's a different situation because you know, Pauolini 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.720 is going to have the crowd, she's not going to quit, 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.520 she's not going to give up, and she can match 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.480 it power for power on both sides with Coco and 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.880 arguably much better, more reliable forehand that can change directions 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.920 so easily, and she's not afraid to come into the 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.720 and her volleys and her volley skill is excellent, clearly 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.400 playing a lot of doubles, but it's just about the technique. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.920 Coco's pretty good at the net as well, because she 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.720 likes to move forward, but her technique on Volli's is 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.760 nowhere near as good as Paulini. So under pressure, she's 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.160 going to come in and you know she has a 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.560 basic sort of forehand volly or back and volley, she's 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.640 going to make that. Whereas Coco, you're not quite sure 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.400 she's I mean, she pulled off this one point that 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.440 was incredible against chin Win. It was like a back 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.120 and forth at the net, and she won it. Because 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.800 she plays more doubles, I would argue that Chinwinn should 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.440 play little doubles. But look at the two of them. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.240 You know they both did great and doubles, and they 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.080 both did great and single, So I would suggest more 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.360 women play doubles. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.560 Something tells me the chinmen have a hard time getting 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:44.000 a partner. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.120 Yeah, I don't think she's overly liked and that I 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.240 love her. She doesn't know. She doesn't want to be 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.840 friends with anyone. She's actually said it in public. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.240 She's like, she's really, I'm not here. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:52.400 You know. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.760 This is flavor of love, no flavor of friendship. Yah. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.200 She's like, I'm not out here to make friends. I'm 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.360 out here to beat people. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.680 But who's not the friends we've made along the way. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:05.840 But let's go into the final. The thing that I 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.480 was worried about immediately for Coco was the very first point. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.480 I was like, this is not going to go well 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.560 for her today, because when you step up to the line, 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.000 everybody's nervous. So that's where you have to have that 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.400 three quarter pace first serf to be able to get 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.160 an in and start the point. Because Coco, arguably, when 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.240 she gets her serve in the court, can beat anyone. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.560 But when you are giving someone free point after free 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.040 point after free point, that's a free point. You mustle 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.680 just walk to the other side. It's like a point 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.600 penalty's first point. Double faull I was like, oh my god, no, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.600 that set the tone for me immediately. If I'm playing 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.800 against her and I'm Parolini and I'm like, I'm hitting 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.240 the ball good, I'm seeing the ball like a watermelon. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.040 I know how well I can play on this court. 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.680 I'm going to have the crowd on my side. What 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.440 do I need to do to beat Coco? I need 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.520 to break her foehand down and I need to hope 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.360 she doesn't serve well, which she did against Eager for example, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.720 she served unbelievable in that match. First point, I'm standing now, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.280 I'm nervous myself. Double fault. I'm like, oh, okay, well 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.359 you're way more nervous than me, and you're arguably one 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.240 of your weapons. Her first serve isn't going in. I'm 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.479 gonna I'm going to kick your ass today, Like that 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:24.440 would have been my first thought, immediate immediate release of 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.000 is she going to come out playing like she did 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.239 against Coco? Or is she going to come out a 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.000 little bit unsure? And that's what we saw a first point. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.120 And you know, I sort of wrote a few things 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.119 down as I was watching the match, because you know, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.160 I want people to understand how important one or two 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.880 points is in a match and why having a weakness 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.040 on a side, and particularly on a second serve is 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.399 it's so detrimental to her in these big matches. And 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:49.919 you know when you double fold that first point. It 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.280 just sets the tone. You know. She just made some 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.760 just some rash decisions as well, like trying to hit 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.520 one drop shot when she was up in the next 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:01.560 game and Paolini ran in, And you got to know, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.880 you're playing against someone who slides well, who moves well 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.800 in clay. You hit drop shots against Danielle Collins, against 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.000 Saber Lenka, you get the ball below the net, short 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.040 in the court. Against someone who can't slide on clay, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.159 things are going to be pretty good for you, especially 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.320 with Coco, because she hits the ball so good when 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.159 someone comes in. She uses that lob really well on 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.680