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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is that time we get to wrap up roam

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Speaker 1: and we get to talk about the upcoming tournament called

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Speaker 1: the French Open or is it now Roland Garross? What

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Speaker 1: are they calling it? You know who wasn't happy about it?

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Speaker 2: Shaquille o'niel's calling at the French Open? No, did you know?

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Speaker 1: It was Charles Barclay who was given it the ship

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Speaker 1: Charles Barker was like, why would you change it from

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Speaker 1: the from French Open to Rolling Girls? Nobody knows who

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Speaker 1: rolling girls?

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Speaker 2: I'm not calling at that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's not a good way to get

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Speaker 1: off on the T and T foot And.

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Speaker 2: The other guy was like, uh, we won't be using

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Speaker 2: that as our broadcasting. Just a ting jingle for the

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Speaker 2: upcoming coverage, and which is hilarious. They have so many commentators,

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Speaker 2: but they didn't pick all the good ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not gonna stay out of that eye.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't dying about you. I was just

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Speaker 2: talking about the other guy.

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Speaker 1: I still out of that argument. Although if anyone is

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Speaker 1: listening to our podcasts, and who does work for Warner HBO,

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Speaker 1: Max who knows, people who know people, let them know.

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Speaker 1: I'd I'd love to do the French open for them.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like my rule, this is my rule,

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Speaker 2: this is Marinee's rule, but my rule is yes.

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Speaker 1: I just want to preface this. I had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with whatever's coming out of her mouth.

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Speaker 2: I just think it is time for us to assess,

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Speaker 2: especially when a new network gets a new gets a

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Speaker 2: new coverage of a slam. Yeah, it's time for us

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Speaker 2: to assess, like, hey, who are the people who are

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Speaker 2: already in the field doing great? Who are some new

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Speaker 2: voices we can emphasize. I was thrilled to see that

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Speaker 2: they got Chris Eubanks. I was, Yes, that's Salon Stevens

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Speaker 2: will joined their coverage under Agacy whenever he dropped by

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Speaker 2: the booth, which is not often but every time, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's going to do two or three days. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: doubt he's saying with Venus. I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: Venus is going to do. I think Venus is apparently

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Speaker 1: from what I'm hearing, I don't know, actually, but from

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Speaker 1: what I've heard, she's doing some features and stuff, not

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Speaker 1: really necess are really commentating. I don't know we'll find out.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch Venus do literally anything. I just think my

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Speaker 2: rule is, if you haven't played or coached, played or

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Speaker 2: coached at the pro level in this century, maybe.

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Speaker 1: In this century. That's what I'm saying. This century.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty wide ranging. I leave a lot of room.

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Speaker 1: I haven't made it into this century.

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Speaker 2: You've both played and coached in this century? Yes, I

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Speaker 2: just think there is a there is a benefit to

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Speaker 2: it's not where as a coach. I think maybe some

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Speaker 2: of the voices that have not played the century or

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Speaker 2: coach can just you know, they got enough money.

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Speaker 1: Like what do we do?

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Speaker 2: I just, you know, let's make some room for some

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Speaker 2: new uh from new voices.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, again, asterisk next to that, I had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with even we didn't even talk about this. We

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Speaker 1: and that did not come up. So for anyone who

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Speaker 1: and T wanna, it was not made that brought that up.

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Speaker 1: But then again, I am I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to watch all of it, and I am he

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Speaker 1: I will say this, and this might be a little controversial,

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Speaker 1: and I might get in trouble for this, but what's

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Speaker 1: comes to the one liners. But I love Jimmy Arius,

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Speaker 1: and I really there's certain people on Tennis channel that

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Speaker 1: I actually when I listen to them, I go, oh,

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Speaker 1: the content text is really good.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 1: Boy, oh boy, he was talking over the points a

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Speaker 1: lot in Rome and listen again, I am not perfect.

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Speaker 1: There are certain things about my commentary that I watch myself,

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Speaker 1: I talked too much there. I probably could have pulled

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Speaker 1: what you're saying was awesome. Everything that was saying was right,

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Speaker 1: Everything they said was good. Both of them are great,

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Speaker 1: But you got to have better discipline. You can't talk

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Speaker 1: It bothered me a lot this time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no shortage of critiques and kudos that

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Speaker 1: Petchy's like him. Both him and they were spot on

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Speaker 1: done the Olympics from Connecticut and I'm calling it in Tokyo,

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Speaker 1: Last one was in Paris. There are times we have

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, there is no excuses for you guys

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Speaker 2: I feel like with commentary lessu's more. If I noticed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really, That's why I like Lindsay Davenport so much.

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Speaker 1: I think Lindsay's great.

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Speaker 2: So friend Jubin has started actually the qualifying matches and.

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Speaker 2: Which is really cool. I watched Bibi Undrescue when her

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Speaker 2: up Rome because most people think about Rome, and we've

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about the clear seasons so far. We

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Speaker 2: You have been on I'm on the Paulini train since

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Speaker 1: She just got a thousand points this way.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna say she moves so well because she anticipates

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, Chinwin and Coco played the

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Speaker 2: Something tells me the chinmen have a hard time getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she's overly liked and that I

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Speaker 1: But let's go into the final. The thing that I

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Speaker 2: it's so clear what she needs to do against Disablanca

431
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Speaker 2: or somebody like Ego who's also sort of a counterpuncher.

432
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Speaker 2: But is an aggressor, certainly on clay, whereas you see

433
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Speaker 2: Coco hanging in the points, making herself a nuisance, making

434
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Speaker 2: them hit one more ball, and then she's able to

435
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Speaker 2: turn that defense into offense. I don't know that she's

436
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Speaker 2: I don't know that she did that against Paulini. And

437
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Speaker 2: as much as she may be needed to.

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Speaker 1: Well, give you an example, like the first game, obviously

439
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Speaker 1: with a double fault and then just a not a

440
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Speaker 1: good game at all. Then you know Paulina holds okay,

441
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: but okay, no big deal, right, let's just get our

442
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Speaker 1: service going. Let's just hang in there. She can get nervous.

443
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Coco then at fifteen thirty on her

444
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Speaker 1: serve had a backhand mid court. Paulini was all the

445
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Speaker 1: way over on the left side of the court, on

446
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Speaker 1: the backhand side of the court. And Coco's best shot

447
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: is her back end, and arguably your forehand back and down

448
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 1: the line or a back and cross court is arguably

449
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Speaker 1: the best on tour. She has a mid court backhand

450
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: and shows to hit a sliced drop shot like to

451
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Speaker 1: go like what you know, you hit the back end

452
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Speaker 1: down the line, like hit your shot. You know, and

453
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: then she double faults and then loses that game again.

454
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Speaker 1: So it's just like all of a sudden, she's down

455
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Speaker 1: three love and it's like there's panic. There was bad

456
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Speaker 1: shot selection. And I have to say, if you if

457
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Speaker 1: you know what your weaknesses are, and at the beginning

458
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Speaker 1: of that match, it's not going in you start just

459
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Speaker 1: your brain just starts kicking over a million miles an hour.

460
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Speaker 1: Oh my god is this and you're trying to fix it,

461
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: But it's because you made a really poor decision there.

462
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 1: You should have smashed that back and down the line.

463
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Speaker 1: She runs over and gets it back. Great, but you're

464
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Speaker 1: probably coming into the net. Like there are just little

465
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Speaker 1: decisions like that, And I think it's affected by when

466
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Speaker 1: she doesn't start a match well like that. Now she's

467
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: done it so many times. Was she's fought back, but

468
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Speaker 1: on this occasion she just she was playing a better player.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Coco's coaching retinue. We've talked

470
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Speaker 2: about this before and past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know them well enough. I'll be really honest, like,

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know her coaching crew at all. You know,

473
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Speaker 1: I've heard great things about a couple of them and

474
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Speaker 1: hard workers. And all that sort of stuff. But and look,

475
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Speaker 1: look she says, made two back to back finals, So

476
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Speaker 1: I'm not going I can't critique what they're doing. One

477
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Speaker 1: thing that I know, I know everyone talks about, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: the grip and her serve. There is one thing if

479
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Speaker 1: she would ever to listen to this podcast or anyone

480
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Speaker 1: that knows her, please get her to not go forward

481
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: on her serve before she's thrown the ball toss up

482
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Speaker 1: like she If you look at her service motion, she

483
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Speaker 1: goes onto the front leg as she's throwing the ball

484
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Speaker 1: toss up. There's nowhere to go there, right, So unless

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Speaker 1: you're serving and you feel really confident, you better hit

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Speaker 1: it well from that point because you are already coming

487
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: forward and down on the ball. Right, So there's no

488
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: she's got to get the rocking motion, you know, or

489
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Speaker 1: but the fact that she's on her front left foot quickly,

490
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Speaker 1: I'm like, good luck getting under the ball, good luck

491
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Speaker 1: getting kick, good luck being able to have any kind

492
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Speaker 1: of a three quarter serve. That's one thing. There is

493
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff. The grip is also not a

494
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Speaker 1: great thing. Her elbow she lunges, you know, falls to

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Speaker 1: the left. There's a lot of things that she does.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that I really would change immediately,

497
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Speaker 1: and I think it's it would not be that hard

498
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Speaker 1: for her to do is to not get on her

499
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Speaker 1: front leg as quickly as she does. That really, particularly

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Speaker 1: with the second serve.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting, I was teaching serve to my kid over

502
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Speaker 2: the weekend. We've done a family hit every now and

503
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: and you know, my wife and center now at a

504
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: place where they can rally pretty decently, and the thing

505
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: that they cannot do very well is serve because it's

506
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Speaker 2: really hard. And I was basically just like, look, the

507
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: basic idea, like you're throwing any kind of a ball,

508
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: is you go from the back lay to the front leg.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

510
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: It's a way of transfer, right. You just want to

511
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: start going backwards to your point. You want to rock back,

512
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: go up, and you want to come forward so that

513
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Speaker 2: your body weight transfer gets the power. And I think, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, imagine try try this. Imagine this. If you're at home, Okay,

515
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Speaker 1: get a tennis ball, go to throw it. Now, would

516
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Speaker 1: you when you go to throw a ball, do you

517
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Speaker 1: are you forward? Like, think about think about being on

518
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: your left leg? Okay, so think about your playing you know,

519
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: little league, or you're over there and like on the

520
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: outfield and you get a ball hit to you and

521
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Speaker 1: you go to throw it, and you're already on your

522
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Speaker 1: left leg to go and throw it. Where it's it

523
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Speaker 1: going to go. It's going to go straight in the ground.

524
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Speaker 1: So your brain is the thing about tennis players, and

525
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: this is the thing about technique, is that you randomly

526
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: know what's not going to work right. But then all

527
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's already forward so to get That's

528
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: why she falls to the left, because she has she's

529
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Speaker 1: trying to get, she's trying to get under it. She's

530
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: actually trying to get under the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's just like she's falling.

532
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Speaker 1: I think coaching stuff with your chicken is before your

533
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Speaker 1: egg is.

534
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Speaker 2: There so many things about her that makes her so good,

535
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: and then there's like fixable things that you're just like, ah,

536
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 2: there's fixable things here. You know. It's not like your

537
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: brain is scrambled eggs like half the people, certainly me

538
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: on the you know, on the court, where you're just like, well,

539
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: I can't help that. Forehands hey, my for you haven't

540
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: seen my beforehand. I cannot take time.

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Speaker 1: Christ christ Christy good forehand. So Christian her forend was

542
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Speaker 1: much better than mine.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Christie's Christie has but there's my full time coach.

544
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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm talking about. There are mechanical methanical

545
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: things exactly. And for bull at home that darn't know

546
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: had to serve. You all can throw it a ball,

547
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: not well, I'm sure some of you can't throw it well,

548
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 1: but try and throw a ball and be on your

549
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: front leg as you're throwing it, like you go back

550
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: on your right and then as you're hitting you're throwing it,

551
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: you're then you go onto your front leg.

552
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about this is such a perfect

553
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: opening to talk about the Women's Devils Final Oh God,

554
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: which features truly, truly, truly one of the most atrocious

555
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: serves that ever existed in professionals.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of bad serves.

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Speaker 2: Holy moly. I mean, listen kudas to jas mcpalini. She

558
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: got the devil. That's incredible. She won it with Sarah Rani,

559
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: who you know is not everyone's flavor, but I mean,

560
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: I'll forever be indebted to her for giving us. You know,

561
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: the doping fellon to my mama's Tortelloni. The Tortilloni defense

562
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: when she got.

563
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Speaker 1: You know, it was the last time that someone was

564
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: in the French the Italian Open final as an Italian

565
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: was Sarahani.

566
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Speaker 2: Sarahani was years ago. Sarah and he has been playing

567
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Speaker 2: tennis on the pro circuit for a long time.

568
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Speaker 1: First, yeah, I played her many many times. That's how

569
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Speaker 1: long she's been out there.

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Speaker 2: God love her. She's she's like what four to eleven?

571
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, the two of them at height is maybe maybe

573
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Speaker 1: six foot.

574
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Speaker 2: I turned on the devils at one point because our

575
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: friend Soviet exit us and it was like, ladies, what's

576
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: going on with this Devil's final? And it was the

577
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Speaker 2: two of them at the baseline yea, And I was

578
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Speaker 2: just kind of like, you know what I triggered from juniors,

579
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Speaker 2: when you got two opponents at the baseline, I won't

580
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Speaker 2: know how much we want to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for me, listen. The first time that ever happened,

582
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Speaker 1: I was playing in Australia. I was playing with Lisa Raymond.

583
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Speaker 1: It was when we were making a comeback together as

584
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Speaker 1: a team and we played mari An Bartoli and Caroline Garcia.

585
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Both have very good serves. By the way, both could

586
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: bomb the serve down like one ten, one twenty, and

587
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: Lisa and I we see and I was like first

588
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: or second round, so it was a really tough first round.

589
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: And I look over and Bartoli's talking to her dad.

590
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: Now he was a mad scientist. Like the shit he

591
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: would make her do was I could write a book

592
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: about the things that he used to write. Maybe we'll

593
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: do a podcast on it one day. I can tell

594
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Speaker 1: you the stories, deept. Oh my god. The nonsense that

595
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: he would make her do was just out rayed.

596
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: What's an example of one.

597
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: One time he had tennis balls taped under her tennis shoe. Okay,

598
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: so think about putting a tennis shoe under your shoe

599
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: and then taping it so you're in like high heels essentially,

600
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: but it's not a heel, it's a ball. And he

601
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: would make her walk around on that and hit serves.

602
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: Then he had a fishing line to get her to

603
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: snap her wrist, like as if she was like throwing

604
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Speaker 1: out something and be doing.

605
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: This at the tournament in front of people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, one time I saw a running on a treadmill

607
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: and then he'd make her stop and come off the

608
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: back of the treadmill and do a split step and

609
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: then jump back onto the treadmill and do a split

610
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: step and go off the trip.

611
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Speaker 2: I wonder if they're still speaking.

612
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: The amount of ship he would make her do that

613
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: was crazy, was unbelievable. The first time I ever saw her,

614
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: he was doing a drill with her indoors in Strasbourg

615
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: and we're like, who's that. We're like, she's a young

616
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: French girl, and I was like, what is that drill?

617
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: He would literally just hit a ball over the net

618
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: that was like a drop shot, and she would have

619
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Speaker 1: to run in and try and smack it. And we're like, uh,

620
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: it's like, what is going You want to practice a drill?

621
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Speaker 1: Some of the god love her. She won Wimbledon. I

622
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: meant she was such a good player for considering what

623
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: she went through. But not not the point of this story.

624
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: Lisa looks at me and I go, I wonder what

625
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: those two over there coming up with with the mad

626
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: scientists about how to beat us? Right, I wonder what

627
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: the wonder what the game plan is?

628
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: We're kind of laughing about it. Right. We go out

630
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: in the court. First game, they win the toss, choose

631
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: to serve we're about about to start. All of a sudden,

632
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: I see Bartoli go back on the baseline with Garcia,

633
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: who has one of the best serves in the world.

634
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Two of them at the baseline, nobody's at the.

635
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: Net, two of them on the baseline. Lisa looks at

636
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: me and she goes, what do I do? I'm like,

637
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: what do you mean? What do you do? This is

638
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: the perfect situation for us. You get to hit the

639
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: ball with no pressure with anyone at the net and

640
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: come in. And now we're both at the net and

641
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: they're both in the baseline. Who's winning that battle? We

642
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: are winning that battle every single time. So I said,

643
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Just hit it through the middle

644
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: and come in. She goes, oh, okay, slices up the middle,

645
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: comes in, they try and hit We just go short Molly, yeah,

646
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: Bally right, that's all you have to do. Or I'm like,

647
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: what I would do if they stood back? So I

648
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: go pop and hit a drop shot off my return.

649
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: I do an osterbur drop shot and then bring them forward.

650
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: We would come in and then smack the ball of

651
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: it hip and dip. Why, I'm like, dud, you know

652
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: why people get away with it?

653
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 2: Now?

654
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Like them way because no one can volley, so they

655
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: are hitting return. These ding dongs are playing against them,

656
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: going big return. We're gonna stay back here. I go, Okay,

657
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: do you know how dumb you are because you know

658
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? Because Sarah Rounni can't serve. But I'll

659
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: tell you what she can do. She can volley, and

660
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: she's smarter than you. She's an old school doubles player.

661
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: So then you hit the return to Paolini or to her.

662
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, both excellents from the ground.

663
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: And if you're dumb enough to hit it to Paulini,

664
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: that's what you are dumb, because then you hit it

665
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: to Pauline and you know what Aruni does, runs into

666
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: the net. So now it's a Runi at the net

667
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Paulini in the baseline. You two dummies are on the baseline.

668
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: Net players always going to win that battle doubles. I

669
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: don't care who you are or what you're doing. The

670
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: team that are best of the net will always win.

671
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: They will always win. And Sarah RUnni knows how to

672
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: dink you and lob you and get the ball to

673
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: your feet at the net and take advantage of your

674
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: lack of ability to play at the net. She was

675
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: the best player at the US Open Mix S doubbles

676
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: final last year by a mile, because she was the

677
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: only one that actually knew how to play doubles. So

678
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: I'll give her shit for the serve and staying back.

679
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: But remember, Caitlin, this is a girl five years ago

680
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: or four or five years ago. Still to this day,

681
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, she's gotten better. Could not hit

682
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: a serve in the court. And when I say Baltos

683
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: was going twenty feet away from her, she was hitting

684
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: underarmed serves. You thought Sablenka had a bad problem. Nobody's

685
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: had it worse than a run. So the fact that

686
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: she's getting it in the court is a miracle. And

687
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: if she hits it under him, she gets the points started.

688
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: You dummies are stupid enough to hit that next ball

689
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: to Paulini. You should lose there you did there. It

690
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: is Well, I didn't know I was going to get

691
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: to that's.

692
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: Either I'm really glad, I asked Alcarez center.

693
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, well, let me just say there's a lot of

694
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: reasons why Alcarez is always not always. There will be

695
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: a time that Sinner beats him on clay. But I

696
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: would say It's kind of like a Roger Ruffer thing

697
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: to a lesser degree because Roger one handed backhand Nadal

698
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: clay court special list. Well, he's not a special, but

699
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: he was the greatest clay court player of all time.

700
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Alcoraz is a better natural. He's a better natural athlete,

701
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: and that's coming from someone like Janikhu's an incredible athlete.

702
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: He's a world class skier. He is an for his height.

703
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: No one moves better. He's unbelievable mover, but he is

704
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: not as good. He's taller, his center of gravity on

705
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: clay is not as good. His sliding ability is not

706
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: as good because he's got a little bit he's got

707
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: to move differently. He's like a like a he's like

708
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that Mexican boat in the Hudson. He's just like flinging

709
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: around out there, just hitting hitting bridges. I heard the

710
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: story behind that today. By the way, we're not.

711
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: Getting sack anyway, but they've got tragic but boat accident.

712
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: It's terrible. There's two people died on that was terrible.

713
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: But too you know, Alcaraz is lower center gravity. He's

714
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: a more natural sort of mover on clay, and he

715
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: has way more variety. Now on hard court, Yannick hits

716
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: you off the court. He just serves you off the court,

717
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: and he hits you off the court. He's serving is

718
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: so accurate. His ball striking, I mean he just smashes

719
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: the ball. He just hits the ball bigger than everybody.

720
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: But Alcarez hits the ball as big. Ken hit the

721
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: ball as big, but he chooses not to on clay

722
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: because he didn't have to, so he hits the spin.

723
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: He has more spin. The ball gets out of Alcarez,

724
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: out of Yanick's hitting perfect, hitting spot more. He's tall,

725
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: so he can kind of get away with it a

726
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: little bit. But it's the drop shot, it's the coming

727
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: into the net, it's the sliding, it's the slice backhand.

728
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: It's just the variety. And having said that, Yanick should

729
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: have won the first set. He had two set points

730
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: and the point at thirty forty was a bad decision

731
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: from sinner. He had a backhand. I don't know why

732
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the effing hell he decided to try and hit it

733
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: down the line. He bailed out of that point. He

734
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: should have hit now credit He hasn't played a match

735
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: in like three years three months, must have felt like

736
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: three years to him, but the fact that he got

737
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: to the final was incredible. The fact that he beat

738
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Rude oh and one, Rude just one Madrid people.

739
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: The best part of that was on Instagram, Uh Taylor.

740
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: Fritz added a comment to Casper Rude's profile, saying, you

741
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: almost had him. I don't know if he's a man.

742
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Almost, but you know, it's arguably the best match that

743
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Youanixen has ever played.

744
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, indistructive of the magic one point. And you

745
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: know casp Rude, who as you just said, one Madrid

746
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: just one, a master one thousand. He came in film,

747
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: but himself he just like got he just got dismantled.

748
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, all the big test is going to be Rude,

749
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: though you know he's coming in. He's a clay court specialist.

750
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: He just won Madrid oh and one, and it was

751
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: excited when he won a game.

752
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: He was so excited with the crowd was so excited.

753
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: I was excited. I was like, Fritz was excited.

754
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: And he went in the press conference later and he said, listen,

755
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm like that bad. You got

756
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: a little ship from people on Twitter, like, how can

757
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: you say that? I mean what kind of professional are you.

758
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, it happens.

759
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just playing a zoning opponent. They hit seed

760
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: to like you said, the bars as big as watermelon. Yeah,

761
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: you know, they find their groove.

762
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Carolina Plishko but lost oh and o in the finals

763
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: to a couple of years ago. She was hitting the

764
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: ball real way. Well, that's the thing.

765
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: You don't get finals without getting without having a go Urnamy.

766
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: You don't give the semis if you're rude having won

767
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: the last. So one thing I like about this matchup,

768
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: especially on clay, is the sort of really smooth, like

769
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: easy power of Cinner gets Negata get gets dealt with

770
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: in so many creative.

771
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: Ways, particularly on the return right. So he's not getting

772
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: the free points like he does on a hardcore as

773
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: much the variety that Carlos was trying to do. On

774
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: the turn of serve, he was trying everything. One time

775
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: he moved in because Carlos one Carlos told him to

776
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: move forward, and janikid a serve at the body and

777
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: he got tubed. And he turned around and looked at

778
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: one Carlos as me like, well that didn't work. Nope,

779
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm going way back now.

780
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: But I just love that he's willing to throw all

781
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: of it in there. And I think the to me,

782
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: the only downside to Center is that he's not as creative,

783
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: which I think you know again his his dividends on

784
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: the Australian Open and US Open, and just that's the

785
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: hard court because it's also the movement right.

786
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: So here he runs out to a forehand. He knows

787
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: if I crush this forehand down the line, it's more

788
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: than likely not going to come back, and if it

789
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: comes back, it'll come back with it'll come floating back

790
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: in the court. Whereas on clay he has that same

791
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to hit that fourhand down the line or whatever

792
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: it is, and he goes, man, if I don't hit

793
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: this perfect down the line, I'm going to have to

794
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: stop prop finish my slide and get back and try

795
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: and get back into the point again. Whereas on hardcourt

796
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: it's so simple. He just pulls a trigger boom, he knows,

797
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: but on clay you have to be patient, you have

798
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more strategic, and like someone

799
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: like Carlos for example, if he's out of position, he'll

800
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: hit a little bit more spin or he'll slice the forehand.

801
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: He plays with a little bit more variety. And that's

802
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: why on a grass court or on a clay court,

803
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: because he has that variety, he can get away with

804
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: it more on on on clay and on the natural

805
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: surface like grass, and he can on a hard court.

806
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: He also has to me, the thing that I love

807
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: so much about him is and this kind of gets

808
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: in his way sometimes when he gets too creative or

809
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: he surprises himself. He's got great powers of deception. YEA.

810
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: So he's got that great wind up for his forehand,

811
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: which like is a haymaker forehand. By the way, he's

812
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: not not hitting the h out of the forehand, but

813
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: he can hit the floating drop shot where he fakes it.

814
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: He can hit the looper, he can hit the buggy

815
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: whip up the line. Like he's got all of the things,

816
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: and he never know and sometimes you get the sense

817
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: he doesn't know until the very end. Like everyone's sort

818
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: of sharing. After Yannick failed to close that game out

819
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: when he was at forty thirty, a couple of points later, tiebreak,

820
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: Carlos Alpaerez, Everyone's of lards that incredibly athletic jumping inside

821
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: out Becker set point valley to set up the forehand

822
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: to the open court. Well, that was beautiful set point.

823
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: It was gorgeous. But what was amazing about it to

824
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: me was that he didn't know that that's what was

825
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: going to happen at all up until the minute.

826
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he did know when he had

827
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: the When he had it at six y four on

828
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: his own serve, he played incredibly passively. Is that word passive? Yeah, passively,

829
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: that's the word.

830
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: It's anighbor.

831
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. He was very very passive on that

832
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: And on that service point he did not go for

833
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: the ball. He sort of waited for an error or

834
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: maybe he was just tight and he wasn't trying to

835
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: get an error. He was just like not willing to

836
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: pull the trigger. And and and Yarnick hit two or

837
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: three unbelievable shots at six four like deep, like within

838
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: a couple of inches of the baseline, and Mark Petchy

839
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: actually said, oh he was. He was seeing that ball

840
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: and thing it's going to go out, it's going to

841
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: go out, and didn't go out. And Yannick played that

842
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: point beautifully to get back to six', five and you, thought, oh,

843
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: okay now it's going to be six, all and this

844
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: could turn around and you could lose his set now

845
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: because he got, passive kind of Like Chin ween. Did

846
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: but the difference Was alcharaz immediately knew IF i get

847
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: this serve back in the, Court he's, Like i'm not

848
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: going to be. Passive and he was so aggressive once

849
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: he got the serve back in the. Court on that,

850
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: point if you go and rewatch it, again he coll

851
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: locked the. Ball it's, like, OKAY i KNOW i wisked

852
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: out at six. FOUR i totally pushed. IT i got

853
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: to go for it because IF i, don't you, know

854
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: as a great, player it's just like. Rash you, Know

855
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: rauffa And roger And novak playing against each. Other they sense,

856
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: it they smell, it and they go for it once

857
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: they know that someone's got a bit, tight just like

858
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: when you Know novak won that incredible match Against roger

859
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: at the olymp at The wimbledon when he had two

860
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: match points and all of a sudden he gets the

861
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: juced and you, go, oh last time your brain. Changes

862
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of Like paulini when he's a double. FAULT

863
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: i got, you that's. Right and so so there's little

864
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: things like that that you hope for on the tennis,

865
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: court and you. Don't you don't go into it, hoping

866
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: but you see it. Immediately And carlos was, like, OH

867
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: i was a. Pussy THEN i get to go for,

868
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: it and he, did and he went for. It and

869
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: then he ends up coming into, there like you, said

870
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: hits that beautiful backhand vollie inside out and then he you,

871
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: know he reads the ball so well and he hits

872
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: that fourhand volley into the open court to win the first,

873
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: set and then it was over. Off that was kind of.

874
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i, mean you, KNOW i think you can

875
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: tail for.

876
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: Once janick was, like, AH i don't know IF i

877
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: can beat this guy.

878
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: Today, ALSO i, think you, know being away for three

879
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: months obviously he trained herd it.

880
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: Sound like he was you, KNOW i heard he had

881
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: a pretty bad blister on that foot.

882
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: Too i'm positive that something movement, wise. Fatigue you, know

883
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: he made it to the. Final obviously the home crowd

884
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen him win the match at.

885
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: Home that, said you, know tremendous. Effort another sort of

886
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: like amazing chapter in their. Match the last time they

887
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: played it was In beijing last. Fall yea on hardcourt.

888
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: So if they play In beijing this, YEAR i can

889
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: guarantee You sinner.

890
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: Wins i'm Sure i'm positive Sin it wins that match

891
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: because you can see the things that he does that

892
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: on that Dismantled carlos and make his incredible brilliant improvisation

893
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: on the natural surfaces look impetuous and stupid on the hard. Court,

894
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: like it's just really interesting how the same, matchup the same,

895
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: technique the same, too you, know personnel just get exploited,

896
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: differently and how you're just sort of which Is that's so.

897
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: Cool that is the beauty of.

898
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: Love this is the greatest thing about our. Sport is

899
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: that surface. Temperature like if you Played rafa on a

900
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: in rome or any clay court when it was, hot,

901
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: yeah you were praying you could win a, game right

902
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: if you played him on a really, slow muddy, court

903
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: maybe at a chance if you're a big hitter like

904
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: a you, know that's the one match that he lost

905
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: The french you, know.

906
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Hit him off the, court you.

907
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah but like you've got to hope for those.

908
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Things whereas WITH i think That yannick would have had

909
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: more of a chance if it had been really hot

910
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day, Maybe BUT i just

911
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: think that the Way carlos, plays he hits that beautiful

912
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: kicks of he doesn't Give yannick a chance to rip

913
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: the return because he hits. IT i, Mean Mark petchi

914
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: get a great stat where he said. THAT i think

915
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: the last time they, played he did not hit one

916
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: serve to the forehand on the second. Court he hit

917
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: every second serve as a. Kicker So yannick has to

918
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get around, that AND i

919
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: don't know. How maybe he bum rushes him and rips

920
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: it and comes in and prushures, him BUT i don't.

921
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: Know it's a hard one to.

922
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Attack the last thing we talked about him a little

923
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: bit on the, podcast but the other semi finalists Besides

924
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: rude and the two we've been talking about for a

925
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: minute deserves mention Was Jack, draper which you, KNOW i

926
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: don't think there's a lot of scenarios in which he

927
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: Beats Carlos alcaraz in the semifinal At, Rome BUT i

928
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: like the fact that he's in. THERE i like the

929
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: fact that he's. CONTENDING i like his left the. GAME

930
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: i like the fact that he's kind of, chippy Like i'm.

931
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: Thrilled just the way that the women's game has really

932
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: filled out in the last couple of, years with all

933
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: these different casts of. CHARACTERS i feel really excited about

934
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: the men's game at the. MOMENT i will, Say zverev

935
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: losing two to the world's sexiest, man but guess what

936
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: Happened Lorenzo Lorenzo, Messetti.

937
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: But guess what happened with the? Balls guess he's not

938
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: going to be number two in the.

939
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: World zverev doesn't.

940
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: Deserve REMEMBER i said he doesn't deserve to be number

941
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: two seed to The. French WELL i was, Right he's

942
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: not going to Be thank. God, now thank god we're

943
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: going to Have carlos And sinner on the opposite. Sides that's,

944
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: right finally at A Grand. Slam but, Yes zverev is

945
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: JUST i mean complaining about the, balls like what are you?

946
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: Get come?

947
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: On and then he goes on this like bizarre press

948
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: conference diatribe where despite the fact that he and we

949
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: said he both hit the same amount of, winners like

950
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: he was, like, Oh i'm such an. Aggressor you know this.

951
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Your, forehand you're a bigger pusher on that, shot and

952
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: you hate Playing messeetti because he slices to your forehand

953
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: and you're seventeen feet, tall you have the worst, grip

954
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: you can't get underneath, it and you're a pussy when

955
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: it comes to a big point and you don't go for.

956
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: It that's why you're never going to be a great.

957
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: PLAYER i, mean you're a great, player but you're never

958
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: going to win A Grand slam if you want to

959
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: complain about the. Balls it was the last Time raphael And,

960
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Nadala Roger, Federer novak djokovits complained about the. Balls it's

961
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: like what the defense rests, guilty ist, charge giltest. Charge we,

962
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: need we need sound.

963
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: Stuff, actually we just launched a newsletter On, friday a

964
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: Hilarious australian writer Named Mel we're funny taking etiquette. Questions

965
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Speaker 2: and she poses the question in her very first column

966
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Speaker 2: and she's actually taking questions from readers and. Listeners is

967
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968
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Speaker 2: Wild it's wild at.

969
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: There, WELL i, mean, listen there's the whole concept of you,

970
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: know when you get elect cord and putting your hand up.

971
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: And then fist. Pumping, yeah this whole.

972
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: THING i got to move my leftover food from my

973
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: lunch today because your cat is going to eat.

974
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: It Jeff. Nutty, okay so we've already talked a little

975
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: bit about the seedings that are we're looking. At it's

976
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: going to be.

977
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Excited oh my, god someone in the top four in

978
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: the world is going to have to play if she makes,

979
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: it Uh egerontech in the. QUARTERS i MEAN i, hope, like, look,

980
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: look seating gods, whatever please pull out of the. Draw

981
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: not playing someone like Sabal aanka in the, quarters, like

982
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: let her play somebody, else like just, well actually, no you,

983
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: know a fuck. It if she's gonna win the, tournament

984
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: she has to beat one of them. Anyway, yeah and

985
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: at this, point let's she needs to get. There BUT

986
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: i would assume she's going to get. There she's arguably

987
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: the best player in clay we've had in donkeys'? Ages

988
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: is that in an actual? Freeze donkeys? Years actually donkeys. Years

989
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: you've never heard.

990
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: That, no half the things that you say That AUSTRALIAN

991
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: i don't even take as Many i've.

992
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: Never heard donkeys.

993
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: Years that's not a.

994
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,440
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995
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: twitter and let me know if you know That Donkeys

996
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: years is a thing because it is A.

997
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: Caitlin, now we're going to Activate Australian.

998
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Twitter we're going to activate it so you your takeaway

999
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: from this clay court. Season obviously there's a tournament going

1000
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: on on both the women's side and the men's. Side

1001
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Novak djokovic is playing this week trying to Get.

1002
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: Geneva, yes and.

1003
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: Isn't Didn't severiev go and play In germany or?

1004
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: Something he's In. Humberg oh my. God, yeah he.

1005
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Only wins In. Germany so the only place that like.

1006
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: HIM i can't believe he desca gets. ENDORSEMENTS i, mean it's,

1007
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: crazy like the only people that like him Are.

1008
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: Germans AND i have to, say, LOOK i stuck up

1009
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: for him last week On twitter when he kind of

1010
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: was a bit salty with the question that was asked

1011
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: to him on The World feed and it was a dumb. Question,

1012
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: yeah we talked about.

1013
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: IT i think you freezed it in a much more elegant.

1014
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: Way you pat someone on the back before you stab

1015
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: them in the, back right when you ask a, question

1016
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: you make them feel great about themselves and then you,

1017
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: go but what's happening? Here like you don't go in and, go,

1018
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: look you stuck At master's one, thousand so you're. Terrible

1019
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: are you happy you won your first?

1020
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Round that's not a good Fel, no You're you're going

1021
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: to get a just fable shitty.

1022
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Response, YEAH i Mean Roger federer would have answered it very,

1023
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: diplomatically because that's Just roger and.

1024
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: This agent would have called behind the scenes and gotten

1025
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: that gafad.

1026
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: Probably but also at the same, time you know a

1027
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: player a, salty so you don't ask those. Questions i'm

1028
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: not going to ask a player THAT i know is

1029
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: salty and give salty answers the question like, That Like

1030
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: i'm not going to have to say To serena so

1031
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, mean BECAUSE i know she's just

1032
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: gonna look at me, like oh, really maybe not me

1033
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: because we're, friends BUT i don't.

1034
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: KNOW i THINK i don't.

1035
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: Know she still give me some. Shit for.

1036
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: Sure she's.

1037
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: Trying met you under the bus a couple of.

1038
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: TIMES i saver of.

1039
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Man, yeah just get over, yourself, bro just fix your

1040
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: forehand and then you might win a match of. Importance

1041
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: we're talking finals Of, slams we're Talking masters one.

1042
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: THOUSANDS i think WHAT i like so much about the

1043
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: finalists that we had at this past tournament is they're

1044
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: all committed to humbly working their asses, off, yes to

1045
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: get such a great. Finals blame everybody. Else they're not

1046
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: talking about the, balls they're not screaming at their, box

1047
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: none of none of them congratulating each. Other they're they're

1048
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: not corporate and. Boring they're they've got personalities that but

1049
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: they're they're, yeah they're just you, know we had a

1050
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: great we had embodiments of what we, had.

1051
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 3: Four incredible human beings in the finals Of, rome AND

1052
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: i mean Even sinner was so he said to his,

1053
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: team you, know we're you, know it's been a hard

1054
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: three three months and you Know i've worked my butt

1055
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: off to be, here AND i thank you And alcaraz

1056
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: and he goes and then he thanks his family and

1057
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: everyone there and he goes except my brother who's WATCHING.

1058
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: Emmla he was at THE f one. Race it was, like, thanks,

1059
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: bro thanks for supporting.

1060
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Me totally related supporting him.

1061
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: It but then Even, coco you, know she Congratulated jasmine

1062
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: and she, said you, know wished to well in the

1063
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: doubles the next, day AND i just just for uh,

1064
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: PEOPLE i really like genuinely with those, four.

1065
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: AND i think the reason that you, know AND i

1066
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind.

1067
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Seeing them all in the finals of The FRENCH i

1068
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: think definitely would like to See alcrez go out it

1069
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: in five. Sets AND i do think that there is

1070
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: a real chance That coco and A pauolini could be

1071
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: in the. Finals agree the way they play their. Game

1072
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: there is five contenders for me on the women's, Side, Coco, Sable, Anca,

1073
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Eager paulini and Chin win.

1074
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: Chin, win who has won a gold medal on those.

1075
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: That's, right and she's found her, Form, Phelip she's found a.

1076
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: Form she's going to go back to Rolland garos and, go,

1077
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: oh that's, RIGHT i beat all you bitches.

1078
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: Here that's.

1079
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: RIGHT i know how to win, here do you know

1080
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: WHAT i? Mean so THAT i would not have put

1081
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: her in that category a week, ago but there is

1082
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: no question she is one of the best players on.

1083
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: Clay the, game the clay suits her game and the

1084
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: way she hits are perfectly SO i would say those

1085
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: five without question are in can win the. Tournament. Definitely Madison,

1086
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: keys maybe because she's done well in the past and

1087
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: maybe she finds reform at The french and The Grand.

1088
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Slam you just made a semi. There and, Listen madison

1089
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: on any given day can beat. Anyone you, know Astar,

1090
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: penko you never. Know, look she once stood, guards she's One.

1091
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: French so there are arguably five to seven women that

1092
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: can legitimately win WHERE i wouldn't be like what yeah men? Two?

1093
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so setting Aside carlos And, sinner what do you

1094
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: think about The, Runa, Rude Cambo. Runa up until this,

1095
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i was, like, oh, YEAH i feel like he's In, WELL.

1096
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I Think runa is going to have a hard time

1097
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: because he's dealing with this sickness and you, know best

1098
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: of five sets mate that Against you, know we're talking

1099
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: about having to beat A, runa A rude and Al,

1100
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: chirez A sinner And. Zvere you don't have to beat

1101
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: those guys over five. Sets you better be physically. Ready,

1102
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: YEAH i just don't know physically he's going to be ready.

1103
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: Enough could he was at peak? Performance? Yes could he

1104
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: get to the final? Yes DO i think that he

1105
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: could win?

1106
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: It?

1107
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: No BUT i think That yannick And alcarez will probably

1108
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: play each other in the. Finals unless you get a Hot,

1109
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Massetti unless you get a you, know a hot you. Know,

1110
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: Look kesper could come back and play out of his.

1111
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: Mind he plays really well In, paris so we'll, see

1112
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: BUT i don't the women are way more open as per.

1113
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: Usual but, yeah we'll see over five. Sets it's just

1114
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: very different the best of.

1115
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: Three, YEAH i think you're. It it definitely favors less disruptive.

1116
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Outcomes i'm.

1117
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: EXCITED i Feel i'm so sad peak.

1118
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: One woman and one man of The. Americans, wait, wait

1119
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: of The, americans This american BECAUSE i just wanted to

1120
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: throw that.

1121
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: Out who are making? Me oh?

1122
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: God did he play well in that first set Against?

1123
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: Sinner that's, right he played. Great all of a sudden

1124
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: he just stopped going for it. Though oh, yeah he

1125
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: got he Was.

1126
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: Redlin did you think he just kind of like went?

1127
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: Hard AND i don't, know he's won the juniors super.

1128
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: FIT i agree with. You you're going to Say tommy Pauland.

1129
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Coco, NO i was going to, Say.

1130
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Cooker what you think An american is going to do

1131
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: better Than?

1132
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: Coco, yeah somebody tells me it's not going to do

1133
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: it this. Here oh BUT i don't know who Would?

1134
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: Madison Maybe?

1135
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: Madison, YEAH i don't think it's going to be An.

1136
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: AMERICAN i think it's going to BE i think Actually

1137
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: chine's gonna win.

1138
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: It oh, okay that's my, car all.

1139
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: RIGHT i THINK i think SHE'S.

1140
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: I think she will definitely be. IN i think she

1141
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: can be in the.

1142
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: SEMIS i Think pauline is going to have a, letdown

1143
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: even THOUGH i think she's playing.

1144
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: Great, no she's too. Solid that's the greatest thing about.

1145
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: Her she's. SOLID i, mean and she's. Solid she's that,

1146
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: little stucky little. Solid she just love. Her but and

1147
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: she's as you, know everybody knows, this anyone who's listened

1148
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: to the. Pod she's my. FAVORITE i love.

1149
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: Her so you're Calling, PAULINI i.

1150
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: AM i don't.

1151
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Know now you have to call An american for no?

1152
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: Reason, no, WELL i THINK i Think coco could win

1153
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: The French. Open, yeah but you, KNOW i honestly don't.

1154
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Know there's so. There it just depends on the day

1155
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: with the. MEN i Think alcaize is going to win it.

1156
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: Again, okay but you have to pick An american for no.

1157
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: REASON i ain't gonna Pick tommy paul to do the,

1158
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: best Not. Klayla, no he's stinking it. Up right. NOW

1159
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: i think he needs a change of coaching. Situation, actually,

1160
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: YEAH i think he's sort Of this is the point

1161
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: That Dan kaye was making about he's been With Mike

1162
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: russell and he's done a fantastic. Job micha will find

1163
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: a job in one second with somebody, else because he's

1164
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: that kind of guy and he's. Professional BUT i think

1165
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: a new, idea is a new, vibe might be a

1166
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: good thing for. Him And i'm not asking for people

1167
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: to go and Tell Michael RUSSELL i want him to get.

1168
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: FIRED i just think he's done such a good. Job

1169
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: BUT i think he's at his max now AND i

1170
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: think maybe it's time for a new voice for him

1171
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: and then move on to another guy and improve his,

1172
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: game because he's done a great job With. Taylor BUT i.

1173
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: Can see something. Insane what About, Armstraber.

1174
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: No no, chance she can't, Physically she's just not mentally there. Anymore.

1175
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: NO i would love to see, Her, NO i just

1176
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: don't think she's going to reach that upper echelance of

1177
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: The Grand slams. Anymore she could do it on, grass

1178
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: because that's her best, surface that's, true BUT i don't

1179
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: THINK i think that's the LAST i Think eager might.

1180
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: SURPRISE i Think eager might come and get To paris

1181
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: and be, Like, OKAY i know how to do this,

1182
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: here you. Know and unless she gets a really tough drall,

1183
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: early she's going to get deep into the tournament and

1184
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: she's going to find her form a little. Bit AND

1185
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: i think that she'll probably be the one that she's

1186
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: still the favorite odds on, favorite so you can't bet

1187
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: against her. Anyway i'm getting so. Excited i'm getting.

1188
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: So Excited mattery players from the early qualifying, Right, yeah that's.

1189
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: What we should. Do we Should AND i want to

1190
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: give a shout out to my lunch dates, Today Carolyn

1191
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: mano And Erica, hill BECAUSE i SAID i was coming

1192
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: to do the pod after, this And erica, said you know,

1193
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: What i've getting into tennis after listening to your. Podcast

1194
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: so that anyone who else is out there who's actually

1195
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: gotten more interested and wants to play more tennis from

1196
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: listening to the, podcast let us, know write us on

1197
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: the socials and, again please like and subscribe.

1198
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: And subscribe and.

1199
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,880
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1200
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,720
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1201
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,960
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1202
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: listening to, us drivel on today was a long, one

1203
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: but we were so excited About. Rome we were just

1204
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: so excited about all the awesome tenis and we cannot

1205
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: wait for The French. Open are you going over?

1206
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: There?

1207
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: No, no? Okay should we do a live podcast In New? York?

1208
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: YES i mean we.

1209
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,000
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1210
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,279
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1211
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: a live podcast In New York city in the in

1212
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: the either the middle weekend or the final weekend of

1213
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: The French. Open let's do maybe we can do two we.

1214
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: OKAY i don't know what you. Said THEN i, said why?

1215
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: Not Okay. Onniva, okay, guys we'll see you next. Week

1216
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: thanks for listening to. Us we'll talk to. You oh

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:21,360
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