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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For some in suscisable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake

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Speaker 1: what we try to do on Money Making Conversations. I

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Speaker 1: to you. My next guest caller, Hall is born in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Calor Hall grew up surrounded by soul food. So did

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Speaker 1: I six usters, two brothers. Okay. When time came from her,

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Speaker 1: you know, sold foods all over my house. When the

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Speaker 1: time came for her to select her career path, she

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Speaker 1: first opted for a business route. She graduated from Howard

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Speaker 1: Universities Business School and worked as an accountant for two

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Speaker 1: years before deciding to switch gears to work as a

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Speaker 1: runway model. Today, she's a trained chief another major shift

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Speaker 1: shift who has worked in several professional restaurant kitchens in

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Speaker 1: television personality and author. She's on the show today to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Food Networks Holiday Baking Championship. What Caller

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Speaker 1: Is a Judge is currently airing November through December on

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Speaker 1: the Food Network, and we also be discussing callers new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Say Yes There's Weekly that she has launched in mid September.

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Speaker 1: Now the table is set. Please welcome to money making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Call a Hall. Hell, Hey, come, I I said

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Speaker 1: the table? Did did that not set the table? Answer

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Speaker 1: that the table? I was like, Wow, I saw myself

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Speaker 1: coming to the double doors that you got all of

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Speaker 1: for me. I was like, wow, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: the seat was being pulled out for you because you're

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Speaker 1: a lady. You're all lady, and you're gonna be eased

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Speaker 1: into the table. And now we're gonna talk about your

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Speaker 1: life a little bit, what you're doing currently, but more importantly,

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Speaker 1: you know, on money making conversations, I always talk about

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Speaker 1: people about not allowing fear to stop your dreams and

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Speaker 1: then also not being shifted in one direction because you've

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Speaker 1: told that's where you should go. Because my degree is

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Speaker 1: and so but so when I decided to pursue a

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Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the early years when you went to Howard and

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Speaker 1: why do you chose to go to Howard? And then

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Speaker 1: when you went into the freshman world as an account well,

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Speaker 1: be surprised I accounting wasn't my first choice. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do theater. So I, um, I from twelve to seventeen,

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Speaker 1: And at that point, my sister was going to Howard.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't like this. You know, I

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Speaker 1: These girls were moving to Paris. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: You know, now I understand the theater background because your

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Speaker 1: a great story when you speak and when you when

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to learn as much as I

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Speaker 1: want to be constructive. I don't want to break your spirit.

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Speaker 1: I want to build you up, but I also want

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Speaker 1: to give you enough to learn so that when you

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Speaker 1: come back, you take my feedback, you add that feedback

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Speaker 1: to your to whatever you're doing, and you come back

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Speaker 1: stronger and better. If this is the last time you

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Speaker 1: see me, then you go home to your business or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you take this feedback to to get better and

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Speaker 1: you do a great job. Dude, I'm talking to call

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Speaker 1: the Hall. You know, we just wrapped up talking about

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Speaker 1: her career, which is ongoing. She's amazing. We talked about

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Speaker 1: the Halloween Baking Championship, but now we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Halloween Holiday Baking Championship, which starts Monday and airs on

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Speaker 1: the Food Network nine pms Eastern, n being Pacific a

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Speaker 1: PM Central. Uh. My man, Jesse Palmer. If you watch

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Speaker 1: He's a really really great personality. Duff Goldman is also

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Speaker 1: on the show Nancy Fuller and Calor Hall Carlor. When

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Speaker 1: you do these shows, as me as a viewer, what

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Speaker 1: do you what do you want us to take away

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Speaker 1: from it? I know it's entertainment and watching amazing uh

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Speaker 1: competition from a food perspective, What's what's our takeaway? Well,

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Speaker 1: listen to us and also get feedback and what they

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Speaker 1: could do at home. I try to describe not only

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Speaker 1: so that they can think of, Oh, I wouldn't I

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Speaker 1: they can use to do some of these creations. I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you though, and back to talking about

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Speaker 1: Sinai and Renee and Aaron. In this show, we saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of crazy, delicious I mean delicious, delicious dishes,

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Speaker 1: tell you, we saw a lot of uh like oh

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Speaker 1: my god that I don't want that, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to eat that in like, oh my gosh, that's delicious.

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Speaker 1: We saw a lot of ugly delicious things. Awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't I want to talk about someone that

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Speaker 1: think that's dear to your heart. It's your podcast that

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Speaker 1: you launched in mid September. Say yes. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I say that because you know what when I look

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Speaker 1: at the description of it is similar to something. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it's a negative of anything. I just know

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Speaker 1: similar passion, of similar desire to make people uh uplift

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Speaker 1: people with information. And that's what your podcast is all about,

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Speaker 1: because it shares and to me the reason it works.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I took the time for people who

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Speaker 1: know you only as a chief to hear your story,

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Speaker 1: because your story is about pivoting. Your story is about

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Speaker 1: when you see an opportunity, you go forward and you're

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Speaker 1: not and you're not stopping yourself or limiting yourself, and

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Speaker 1: so many people do that and basically that's the story

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Speaker 1: mantra is say yes, adventure follows them growth And sometimes

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Speaker 1: the hardest thing is to say yes to something that

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Speaker 1: is the unknown, because the unknown is your adventure. And

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Speaker 1: once you go through that that adventure, then you're going

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Speaker 1: to grow and then you move on to the other

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Speaker 1: the next yes. And so what I want people to

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Speaker 1: get out of this podcast is that a lot of celebrities,

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Speaker 1: when when you think that my life began on Top

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Speaker 1: Chef when my life began on the chew, there were

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Speaker 1: so many other things that happened to me that formed

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Speaker 1: at the tough times, the times that they're being built

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Speaker 1: for something greater. And if you but you're only going

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Speaker 1: to get to that greatness if you keep pushing forward

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Speaker 1: and saying yes, because we're all here for a reason.

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Speaker 1: Most people never get to that reason because they are

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Speaker 1: afraid or they're too safe, and they want everything to

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Speaker 1: a chance on yourself, and if you know that the

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Speaker 1: universe is so much smarter than we are that to

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Speaker 1: put you in a position to grow, then you will

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Speaker 1: up there. You know, she's a chef, she's a TV personality,

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Speaker 1: Arthur motivational speaker. But more importantly, she's calling Hall because

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Speaker 1: had with my biggest takeaway is trusting yourself and saying

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Speaker 1: yes because you all know, Carler, we're here the word

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Speaker 1: and so we have to push through the nose to

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Speaker 1: get to yes. And that's a testament to who you are.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: money making conversations. You know, I was always a fan

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Speaker 1: and now I'm a bigger fan and I'm gonna support

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Speaker 1: you are with with on my social media. You know,

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Speaker 1: club or with an eighty thousand fan club members. I'm

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Speaker 1: a post that so I always know what Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My platform is your platform. Okay, oh, thank you. This

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Speaker 1: has been so refreshing. And just to here you're your

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Speaker 1: recap of my life, I'm like, wow, you know what

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Speaker 1: just saying is that you know, just to hear from me,

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Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes people and you know you're I'm

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Speaker 1: telling this is your personality is very similar to mine.

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Speaker 1: Is that you're not a person who sits around bragging

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Speaker 1: what I've done, and you you move on to the

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Speaker 1: next step. And sometimes that's good and bad, because that

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Speaker 1: means you're always competing. You always drive into the next opportunity,

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Speaker 1: and you tend to forget your story. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I love that you created this podcast, because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: slow down and you're gonna do exactly what happened to me, Carl.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna find out how many people you've affected in

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Speaker 1: such a positive way over the years that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: bring you to tears sometimes because you are a special

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Speaker 1: young lady. Don't change, and God has put you on

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Speaker 1: this earth and you're doing the gifts that he gave

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Speaker 1: you to make people's lives better. So don't change. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Can I tell you one quick thing that

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Speaker 1: I said to us to and this is my mother.

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Speaker 1: This is how the calls are with my mother. She

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Speaker 1: you think she's saying goodbye, and then she starts over again.

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Speaker 1: But I said yes to Sherry Shepherd, but then to

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Speaker 1: do in comedy with Kim Um. I'm gonna Kim Kim Whitley.

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Speaker 1: So I did. I did a stand up. I thought

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Speaker 1: read the text. She was inviting me to actually perform,

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Speaker 1: because when you when you were saying about stand up,

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Speaker 1: it is one of the hardest things you could possibly do,

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Speaker 1: and you are so vulnerable being on stage by yourself

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Speaker 1: and looking at a bunch of people saying to you

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Speaker 1: make me laugh. Um that that has got to be

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Speaker 1: one of the most character building things ever. So my

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Speaker 1: hat goes off to you. And yes, my friend, my

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Speaker 1: hat goes off to you. And like I said, seres

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Speaker 1: Ship a good friend of mine, Kim Witley, I gave

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Speaker 1: Or as a clown. We always joke about that. So

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Speaker 1: I know the impact that I've had on people's lives,

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Speaker 1: and I'll just let you know that. As you go

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Speaker 1: into this podcast, you start to peel back the layers

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Speaker 1: of your life. You're starting to realize the people you

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Speaker 1: impacted at Howard, the people you impacted when you was

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Speaker 1: at Price Walter Hollege, the people you impacted when you

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Speaker 1: went to Paris, the people you impacted when you were

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Speaker 1: to calling their school, the people you impacted when you

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Speaker 1: was at restaurant, the people you impacted who watched you

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Speaker 1: when they watch you on repeat of the Food Network

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Speaker 1: or current episodes of the Food Network. You are an

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Speaker 1: impactful young lady. Don't change your your southern girl. You

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Speaker 1: got that. You went to d C. You know about that.

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Speaker 1: You or who you are is built on what people

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Speaker 1: made you to be, and that's some great parents and

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Speaker 1: the people who loved you. Don't change. Thank you. This

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Speaker 1: is really interesting. I just left talking to this guy.

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Speaker 1: It's cool. Really seriously, thank you good, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We will talk soon. You know I'm a fan. We

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Speaker 1: talked soon. Okay, call, we'll talk soon. Yes, and tell

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Speaker 1: your staff to give me some videos, some banners so

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Speaker 1: I can promote all your things, especially the podcast. Say yes,

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Speaker 1: especially your banners so I can promote so your your

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Speaker 1: your social media. They not become my social media. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's about It's all about you, girl, It's all about you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, all right, big time. We talked soon about calling.

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Speaker 1: All talk. We'll be right back with more from McDonald

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Speaker 1: and money making conversations. Don't touch that Dow Oregon. Donations

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Speaker 1: the host of Money Making Conversation. The Cafe Moca Swag

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest, Ali Brooks is a native of San Antonio, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Houston, Texas, so it's gonna be a good call.

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Speaker 1: All my calls are great, but when I get a

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Speaker 1: a multi platinum singer, songwriter, dancer, so with Dancing with Stars, actors,

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Speaker 1: and author of the newly released memoir which I have read,

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Speaker 1: Finding Your Harmony, Dream Big, have faith, and achieved more

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Speaker 1: than you can imagine. She's a former member of the

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Speaker 1: girl group Fifth Harmony, which kicked off her music career

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Speaker 1: when the group was formed during the second season of

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Speaker 1: the American singing competition The X Factor in twelve. She's

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Speaker 1: not pursuing her solo career. Alis on the show to

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Speaker 1: talk about the inspiration behind the book Finding Your Harmony,

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Speaker 1: and the process of putting this book together, the messages

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Speaker 1: about faith, how positive approach to life and determination she

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Speaker 1: is sharing with her story and being a remote and

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Speaker 1: being a role model. I'll tell you for young people,

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Speaker 1: please working to money making conversations. My dear friend, Texan

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Speaker 1: Ali Brooks. Hello, an awesome intro. I am so happy

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Speaker 1: to be on your show today. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time to be on

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Speaker 1: the show because you're young people young, but you're talking

657
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Speaker 1: like an old person in this book, which is a

658
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Speaker 1: good thing because that means it's a lot of maturity.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of maturity like this said the old spirit.

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Speaker 1: You were he was premature born, you know. And and

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Speaker 1: when I was reading the book, and they was saying

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Speaker 1: that the number one fear is the lungs. The lungs camp.

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Speaker 1: But your lungs were strong, your strong LANs. So let's

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Speaker 1: talk about you as an individual, because I always find

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Speaker 1: out when a young person writes a book, I got

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna talk about. What they're gonna talk about life? Okay,

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Speaker 1: And then but you were a lot of life, starting

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Speaker 1: with you being a PREMI and let's let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: And and your parents. Your brother Brandon had already been

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Speaker 1: born and living his life. I think he was four

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Speaker 1: years four years older than You're correct, yes, and uh,

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Speaker 1: And you came out screaming your parents. Uh, and your

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Speaker 1: san Antonio. So I love the fact that your father

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Speaker 1: can cook. So tell us about your father, because I

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Speaker 1: have a daughter. So my daughter, I'm, you know, daddy's girl.

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Speaker 1: I got the impression that your father, you know, the

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Speaker 1: dad's great bond relationship father daughter relationships. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: your dad. Oh, my dual, I love my dad. So

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Speaker 1: my to me, my parents are are my everything, and yes,

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Speaker 1: so I yeah, so even though I'm I'm super young,

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Speaker 1: you can tell I've lived a lot of life home.

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Speaker 1: I've had so much to come my way and I've

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Speaker 1: learned a lot of lessons. My faith has been tested

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Speaker 1: but also strengthened in such extraordinary ways, and through me

685
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Speaker 1: sharing my story, you know, just like similar to you,

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Speaker 1: I have a purpose and and plan and just hope

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Speaker 1: to bring inspiration to people, to bring hope to them,

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Speaker 1: to bring um positivity, you know, in such a crazy world. Um,

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Speaker 1: but one of my foundations are my my parents and

690
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Speaker 1: my dad. He's so awesome. He's the life of the party.

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Speaker 1: He loves to you know, talk to everyone and be

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Speaker 1: everyone's friends. But he's also such a hard worker and

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Speaker 1: has a heart of old and um, both him and

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Speaker 1: my mom sacrifice so much for me to live out

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Speaker 1: my dreams as you as you've read in the book,

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Speaker 1: and I've overcome so much together. And my dad he

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Speaker 1: can cook. He makes comma see us right there, right

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Speaker 1: there when you say flower tortillas in the book. Now

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Speaker 1: see see My wife and I were getting the arguments

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Speaker 1: all the time because you know, you know, we're we're

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Speaker 1: based in Houston. She loves meal. I can care less

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Speaker 1: about meal. Flower tortillas, don't, girl. I'm telling you when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about he made the best in the world.

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Speaker 1: So you kind of made me mad that a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because see I love flower tortillas and I'm going, like,

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Speaker 1: what could he be doing? Ali that we're making them

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Speaker 1: the best in the way. It's I just love talk

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Speaker 1: family talk. Can your dad really throw down with the

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Speaker 1: flower tortillas like that? Oh? Yes, you can. I like, seriously,

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Speaker 1: he just knows how to make them. He makes them

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Speaker 1: handmade from scrites. They're the best or sears in the

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Speaker 1: world and aging every time. I'm like, oh, I like

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Speaker 1: seven or probably can just getting just a lot. You

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Speaker 1: put the warm off the coal and then you put

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Speaker 1: butter on. Life changing. Okay, Now can I ask you?

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Speaker 1: Of course, can you cook? Though? I can, so I'm

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Speaker 1: not you paused though, See you paused though. See See

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Speaker 1: that's always strategic. Go through that question. Now, I've been

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Speaker 1: listening for the boldness. You've been bold is entire interview.

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Speaker 1: Then I ask you, can you cook you with yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could cook. I can, I can throw down. I

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Speaker 1: made I finally learned how to make I FeAs during

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Speaker 1: quarantine and they are so good and not my dad

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Speaker 1: but awesome like more so bake. But I could make pause,

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Speaker 1: so I can make Okay, let's stop. Let's stop all

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Speaker 1: this right now, because because you just don't even know

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Speaker 1: who you're talking to when you used it, when you

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Speaker 1: say the word bake, I am an award winning baker. Okay,

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Speaker 1: absolutely see, So that's what I'm saying. You doing no

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Speaker 1: homework on your boy here, your boy in love with you?

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Speaker 1: You got. I read your book, I know it backwards

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Speaker 1: and forward. I know your family member, I know about

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Speaker 1: your cat Bobby, I know by everything. But did you

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Speaker 1: thought the word bake? Didn't realize you're coming over in

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Speaker 1: my territory. Territory now totally roasted me right now, absolutely

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Speaker 1: every night because it's a good roast. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: letting you know before you throw out that worried bake,

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Speaker 1: I'll just let your daddy. I'm just let your dad

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Speaker 1: with them flywer tortillas. See what did you just say?

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Speaker 1: I can but just not not not not as good

741
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Speaker 1: as my daddy though, So you have to realize that

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Speaker 1: you're talking to Rashaun and the award winning baker so

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Speaker 1: you can continue your conversation and brand to your faith

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Speaker 1: ends and everything. But no, you're talking to that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: continue with your beautiful interview. You know what you are,

746
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Speaker 1: so right, I apologize. Wait, I have to make a

747
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Speaker 1: trip that you can have your well, you know I can.

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Speaker 1: I can do anything. I can do. Uh, I can

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Speaker 1: do uh. You know. I'm a Southern guy, so I

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Speaker 1: do the peach cob was the Germans chocolate cakes, that

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Speaker 1: apple turn able, the peach turnovers. I'm a big cheesecake person.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big cheesecake person, you know. So I can

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Speaker 1: do the apple stuff, the cheesecake with apple on top,

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Speaker 1: with light layered, lined with pecans, and put caramel on top.

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Speaker 1: I put cherry strawberry, you know, so cheesecake because you

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Speaker 1: know Texas love cheesecakes. So I got the cheesecakes right

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Speaker 1: there downpat so you can't mess with me on cheesecake.

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Speaker 1: And then I throw it out with the apple pies

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Speaker 1: and I throw it out with the peach cob. Was

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Speaker 1: a good, good Southern stuff, and so so I that's

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Speaker 1: where I've come. I come from the southern exer side

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Speaker 1: of the table. Okay, So now I've thrown out my

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Speaker 1: little bity menu. I just threw out about six items.

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Speaker 1: My boy can do more because I got an app

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Speaker 1: with eighty recipes. Okay, lets you know that. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay, So what's gonna happen is I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go home and tex this. I'm gonna make a

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Speaker 1: trip to you and you're gonna bait nominal no problem.

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Speaker 1: I come out there were you're based in l A.

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Speaker 1: I'm making a hopefully so that's cool because I come

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Speaker 1: out there l A. My girl or Kelly Clarkson. Last year,

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Speaker 1: I did an entire Thanksgiving spread for Kelly Clarkson and

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Speaker 1: her staff because I know everybody Alex do the EPs.

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Speaker 1: I do all of them, and I did A shocked her.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't believe. She wasn't even gonna come over it,

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Speaker 1: and she was I did. I did four turkeys, I

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Speaker 1: did fifteen desserts, all the trimmings, potato salad, peing onion salad,

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Speaker 1: uh sweeper. Yeah. Everything. And we're not talking about those

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Speaker 1: tortio thereto that you're ate in the back of the bus.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you was frustrated them too, I would

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Speaker 1: just keep dropping a little nuggets on you. Let you know,

782
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: I read your book when you when you picked up

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Speaker 1: that twenty pounds and you said, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: five ft frame five twenty pounds, really show really, show man.

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Speaker 1: You literally deserve a medal for all of the notes

786
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Speaker 1: you're taking you, my dear wonderful cat Bobby. First of all,

787
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Speaker 1: your book was engaging. Let's let's go, and we're joking around.

788
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Speaker 1: But but I joke around because I'm fascinated by a

789
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Speaker 1: young mind being able to understand her value and why

790
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: she had to write this book, because it's inspirational faith,

791
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, being able to not not be um uh sex,

792
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Speaker 1: not being convinced that sex has to be the way.

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Speaker 1: You're write a passage for womanhood. Because I have a

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Speaker 1: year old daughter. She is just like you. She's saving

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Speaker 1: herself for her marriage. And so I was really I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to let you know that, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, my daughter isn't dort the unique.

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Speaker 1: She's not trying to win a medal. It's just here,

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Speaker 1: that's something she's chosen to do and not allowed it

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Speaker 1: to be forced as that's what you have to do.

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Speaker 1: That you have to have sex, you have to as

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Speaker 1: to big part of if you want to be a woman,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that part, because that's important to young

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Speaker 1: women young men too, because they feel sometimes that's the

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00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: only way they can gain manhood is by having a

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Speaker 1: relationship like that with a woman. Talk about that, Ali,

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00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: It's so true, and that's awesome of your daughter's shout

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Speaker 1: out to her. She we're not alone. Um, But for me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's true. You know a lot of people feel like

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Speaker 1: they have to do that, um, you know, sometimes to

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Speaker 1: get someone or whatever. And for me, that was something

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Speaker 1: that as you you already know about book, as you've

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Speaker 1: read everything, you probably mem right this. Yes, when I

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Speaker 1: was eighteen, I asked my parents for a true Love

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Speaker 1: Wakes ring, and I just decided to keep that vow

816
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: on that promise. And again, like I would never judge

817
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: anybody who's made any different choice, that's just something that

818
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I chose to share. And it's awesome to receive so

819
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Speaker 1: much support and love from people who have made that

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00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: same decision and people who haven't, you know. Just to

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Speaker 1: be able to own my truth and to be vulnerable

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Speaker 1: with my fans and to have them support me has

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Speaker 1: been so awesome. And I just want to encourage people

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Speaker 1: out there, no matter who you are, no matter how

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00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: old you are, just to own your own story whatever

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Speaker 1: that means to you, and your own truth, and to

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Speaker 1: to be proud you know of yourself really, and that's

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Speaker 1: what this book is about yourself, being yourself or standing

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Speaker 1: up for who you are in your own personal dreams.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Ali Brook Farmer actually has a solo

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Speaker 1: career fifth Fifth Harmony, member of Fifth Harmony group Finding

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Speaker 1: Your Harmony It which is appropriately named that she has

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Speaker 1: out right now, dream big, half faith and achieved more

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Speaker 1: than you can imagine. When I when when I read

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Speaker 1: that title, and I think about a young lady who

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Speaker 1: along the way, you had your teacher, Miss Meryll, Miss Merrill,

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Speaker 1: and then you had they had the coach, and then

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Speaker 1: you had the coach and had Dana so each one.

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Speaker 1: And I always tell people and people I was asking

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Speaker 1: me about my life, they I call those people bumps.

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Speaker 1: You know, people come into your life and they just

842
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: they just feel they need to push you in the

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00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: direction because you don't see what the gift that you have.

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Speaker 1: And and that's why I really I really impressed with

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Speaker 1: you because I would tell people despite all the success

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Speaker 1: I've had in my life up to that point. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't until I was in my fortage that I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it and understood who I was because the fact

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Speaker 1: that I was riding on those statements alley, you know,

850
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: right place, right time, you know, knock on wood. You know,

851
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: all those cliches that had nothing to do with faith,

852
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the talent that God gave you,

853
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the inspiration and your purpose.

854
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: And this book is about you have found your purpose.

855
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: You've always known your purpose, what people had to push you,

856
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: like your teacher, like the coach, like Dana. So let's

857
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: start with the teacher and how she shaped your life,

858
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go to the coach, and then

859
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Dana, who got you to l A. Okay,

860
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: let's go through the stamach. Wow. Well, thank you again

861
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: so much for taking your time to to do the

862
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: research and to really um grab my book and to

863
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: cherish each in every moment and character and story. That

864
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: means the world to me. Sir, I really want to

865
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: say thank you because no one has done this amount

866
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: of um research and and and care about my book

867
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: as you have so God bless you, and I just

868
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: thank you, sir um. But also yes, so third grade,

869
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: I was singing in recess and then my teacher just

870
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: just just just just sing yes like that. I think,

871
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: don't don't don't tell that I get baked when I

872
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: can't sing. Okay, you can leave that to me. She

873
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: changed my life. And she asked my mom if I

874
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: could sing in chapel, and my mom was like, oh

875
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: my gosh. Of course she was so excited and flattered,

876
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: but she didn't really think anything of it until she

877
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: saw me in chapel and my you know, her and

878
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: my parents her, my dad were amazed and Mrs Merrill said,

879
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, you need to nurture her gifts, and um

880
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: changed my life. If it wasn't for Mrs Merrill, I

881
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: may not have ever really pursued singing. You know, my

882
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: parents may not have ever really seen oh, you know,

883
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: our daughter has a voy um From then I my

884
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: parents put me into a local organization in San Antonio

885
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: called Network for Young Artists, and this wonderful man named Coach,

886
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: another person to change my life. He ran this this

887
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: uh performing arts program and you had an audition to

888
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: get in and he welcomed me with open arms. He

889
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: saw the talent in me. I was super shy at

890
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: that age, and he encouraged me and pushed me to say, hey,

891
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: you know what, You're awesome, you have a gift. You

892
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: can do this, but you have to work on your shyness.

893
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: And he gave me that chance to perform um around

894
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: my hometown and you know, all over Texas. I went

895
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: to McAllen and Austin and other other places, and you know, again,

896
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: Coach gave me that opportunity to truly perform for the

897
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: very first time. And then it wasn't until I went

898
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: on the audition years later. Um with my friend. It

899
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: wasn't even my audition. I went with her to this

900
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: talent show and she auditioned. I wasn't going to then. Somehow,

901
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: I crazily enough ended up singing. And uh, an actress

902
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: named Dana Baron, who was the very first audrey in

903
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: National Lampoon's Vacation, was there and she pulled me aside,

904
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: you know she and she was like, listen, I'm not

905
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: a part of this, uh, this talent show. I'm just

906
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: filling in. But you moved me, and you brought tears

907
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: to my eyes. You're you're so incredible. I know that

908
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, mom, you know, mom and dad, but I

909
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: would love to take your daughter to l A and

910
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: introduced her to all these agents and casting directors. I promised,

911
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: this is real, legitimate it and then my parents prayed

912
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 1: about it, and we're so thankful. And I couldn't believe

913
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: they were meeting her because they were a fan um.

914
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: And then they said yes, and I, at twelve years old,

915
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: packed up and went back and forth from San Antonio

916
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to pursue a dream. And Dana Baron

917
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: got me to l A and that changed my life forever.

918
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald. Was we just she was

941
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Speaker 1: going back and forth because she had to get back

942
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: for Christmas to get those Tamali's. Yeah that's right, you know,

943
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean our house. It's not Christmas. Come on,

944
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: come on that girl, that corn meal. Put that little

945
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, something like the Tomorrow's a lot of people

946
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948
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Speaker 1: It's really it's really the simplest thing in the world

949
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, well, actually it's yes. So the ingredients

950
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: are simple, but the process it's hard. Hard. But I

951
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: was checking your just checking you won't like your deeper myself.

952
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: I gotta check you now on the food, not singing,

953
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: and you got me all day long. But on that food,

954
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm always checking if you're eater or maker. You know

955
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You are more of an eater to me,

956
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, but you're good watching. I could eat like

957
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: literally forty in one sitting, no joke. Okay, okay, let's

958
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: get to get these numbers right, twelve flower to forty

959
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: to the fifty to item five foot singing genius is eating.

960
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: So God, listen up, now, listen up. The girl can eat.

961
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: Don't let the frame fool you. You heard it all.

962
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: You heard it on my main conversation. Okay, she puts

963
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: some butt, No flower, did she go to work? Continue?

964
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: That's why you had to come back and texts you.

965
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm just living. Parents. They were there, Brandon the brother

966
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: was there, Grandma was there, Grandpaul, Grandpa was there too.

967
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: But it was them doing to molis to a little

968
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: meeting and put a little pork in between that cornmeal

969
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: you've you've closed it up. Then you wrap it up

970
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: in that little a little sale. Then you're dropping standing

971
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: on one end into this pot. You kind of like

972
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: you're steaming. You steam them and then you pull them

973
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: out and you put a little salsa on top of

974
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: green or red, whatever you prefer. Or if you're crazy,

975
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: you put a little chili on top of them too.

976
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Some people do that. I don't do that. I don't

977
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: do that. I don't do that. I don't want to

978
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: mess up a good to Molly. That's new challenge. Come on,

979
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: you weren't ready for this interview, Alick, you weren't really ready.

980
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why he puts you on this phone

981
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, yeah, Actually you're having a good time

982
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: talking to a stranger. That's what you're doing. I think

983
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: this is stand down interview I've ever done. I am

984
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: talking to Ali Brook from San Antonio. Listen up, guys,

985
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: she's five ft tall. She can sing. But boy, you

986
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: put a knife in fun in front of her, you're

987
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna get a beast. And if it's some Tomas Lord

988
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: had mercy gonna knock you out the way because she's

989
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: a beautiful person like that. I know, you know, because

990
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: of the competition. This is what I love about your book.

991
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: What I love about you. See, I knew I was

992
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna get along good with you because at the very

993
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: start of her book, you know, she thanks her mom,

994
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: says she's such a blessing. Then she thanks her dad,

995
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: and about a few more pages in after she you know,

996
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: talks about her being a premium didn't she get to

997
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: her dad and talks about everything he can cook. He's

998
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: the best cooking. That's all I mean, Like it almost

999
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: turns into it like a cookbook that really does. I

1000
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: was home on that page. I got home. Grab this

1001
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: girl can eat. She loves food. She has a passion.

1002
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: She might have a passion for singing, but she loves

1003
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: good food and text mix. I'm gonna tell you something,

1004
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Ah Blanco, that was your blank blanko? What's her name

1005
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: of restaurant? Meal for you? You get a medal? You

1006
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: know everything about this book? Yes, I know something I'm

1007
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: tired of. I'm tired of like you know, front, I'm

1008
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm just a stalker. I'm just a stalker. I'm a

1009
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: stalker for talented people who like tom It's flower. Oh

1010
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: my god, you know, you know, let's just get back

1011
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: to this book. And actually we've been talking about the

1012
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: book because she I told him too what she's coming

1013
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: back and forward. It's mentioned in the book to Molly's

1014
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: for Christmas. That's why I know about that. So that's

1015
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: why she's laughing. She can't believe I pulled that out.

1016
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: And when I pulled the restaurant name out, she can't

1017
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: believe I put the restaurant name. That really messed up.

1018
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: That messed up really bad. Right there, she said, he

1019
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: knew the name of my favorite restaurant. That is so obscure.

1020
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: It's only mentioned one time what he knew about the

1021
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Dorito's in the back of the bus hen about that

1022
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: you're eating? About that, okay? In twelve How it all started?

1023
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't want to audition your mom. It's

1024
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: a funny part of this book. Her dad, Dad, he's

1025
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: a great champion. Whenever he came around and he saw

1026
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get his daughter to the next left,

1027
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: he asked her to sing on the spot. Come on, baby, sing, Alice.

1028
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: Alice said, that made me so mad. My dad and

1029
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: I sing, girl, let the do God's work. Come on,

1030
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: do God's work. Do God's work. Come on. I'm like, okay, Dad,

1031
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: I had all these unprepared. I knew what he was

1032
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: up to. But you know what, you gotta cry the

1033
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: man bad. He got me. I just laughed. That made

1034
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: me laugh so hard. He said, every time my dad

1035
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: he did have me sing on the spot. I could

1036
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: be a Danny's restaurant. He didn't care. Corner. He my

1037
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: Dad's singer. Let's do the Lord to work through God's

1038
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: work right in front of everybody. Come on that, come

1039
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: on that right now? Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay,

1040
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: let's let's get back to your wonderful book. And that's

1041
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: also in the book. By the way, everything I'm talking

1042
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: about she's laughing so hard, but everything I'm talking about

1043
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: is in this book is an amazing inspirational book. She's

1044
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: laughing so hard. She's never heard anybody, you know, because

1045
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: she's famous. You know, that's some beauty of famous people

1046
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: like and and a lot of people want to interview

1047
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: because they're famous and and and then but they don't

1048
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: do they don't look inside and realize why this person

1049
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: is special. And Ali Brooks Alie Brook, excuse me is

1050
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: an amazing person. Uh kind of keep saying Ali something

1051
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: that once on the apology because a brother inspired her

1052
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: name because of Ali and so that she said he

1053
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: knew that too. Okay, I'm done with him. I'm done

1054
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: with him. Really your heart with I love it that

1055
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: you have permission to be like the Godfather at no

1056
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonn tell you, I'm tell you, thank you now.

1057
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Speaker 1: I will be read there for you to Like I said, uh, uh,

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Speaker 1: this is the thing about what I love about it

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01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: was it was a sad moment in the book when

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Speaker 1: it comes to uh, one of my all time favorite

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Speaker 1: singers and that's Selena is tragically murdered at the age

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Speaker 1: of three years old. And was it has been an

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: inspiration for your career. Reason I know because her to

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01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: well because at the Euston Livestock Show a Rod video

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: she said a record because on Sunday Night was Latino

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: Hispanic night on Sunday night, and it all and it

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01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: was always the biggest crowd every year, has always been

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Speaker 1: Sunday night at the Eastern Livestock Show Rodeo. And she

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01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: came down there and and look great and all get

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: up but she was. She was she was a crossover act.

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Speaker 1: That's what I loved about. She was crossed because she

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01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: appealed to me her talents, her graciousness, and let's talk

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01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. Even today in Houston, they had some

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Speaker 1: I think some some uh Selena candles. Uh. They sold

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: out in the hour you know, T shirt, They sell out.

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01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: Any type of memory barrewer is always always sells out

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Speaker 1: strongly in the uh the community. So she has been

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: inspiration to you at a young age. She died when

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Speaker 1: she was twenty three years old, and now you've been

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: inspiration now for women today. And I just think that's

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01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: hand in hand that that you're carrying on her legacy,

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01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: not only from from who you are, and also from

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: the fact that because she was born in the area

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01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: where you're where you're from, and just talking about her

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01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: as an inspirational person and your message that you're trying

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01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: to deliver from this fantastic book that I had such

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: a great time reading finding your Harmony book. Oh my gosh, Well,

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01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much for that. That means man more

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01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: than I could ever say. I just I just loved

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Felina so much. I have since I was literally in diapers.

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Speaker 1: And what I loved about her the most was her beautiful,

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: just radiant spirit. She shined so much light and love

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01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: to her friends, to her family. She made people believed

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01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: that they could shape their dreams. And for me, you know,

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: even a young Mexican American little girl, seeing someone who

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: looked like me, who was able to in a way

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: reach her dreams was so beautiful and powerful for me.

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01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: And her voice, her message she was She was a

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: positive role model for so many people. And I can

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: just go on and on about why I love her,

1101
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: and again, it's just all about her ordinary spirit. She

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: just shines so bright and it still makes me so sad.

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I know that her legacy

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: is being carried on generation after generation, and that's what

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: I felt. You know, when I was young, I always

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: said I want to honor her wherever I can, and

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: I sing you know, her songs and pay tribute to

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01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: her whenever I can. And the fact that I can

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: write about her in my book is an honor um

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just incredible because recently last year

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: I got to become friends with Suzeki Dania and her family.

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01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: You know, Selena's family, and that was just a highlight

1113
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: of my whole life. Um, but that's my goal, is

1114
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: to just continue to spread her beautiful legacy for as

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01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: long as I live, because she was that incredible of

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: a human. Well, I've been showing you are incredible. I

1117
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: had a such a fun time. My time is up.

1118
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, in our relationship is over.

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: That's alex Alec. Look, you know you probably need to

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01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: go well, you know, Los Angeles, so you can't do

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01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: anything there. But the tomores are in San Antonio and

1122
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: the flood of flower to tears in Antonio. But you

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01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: can't make something. But the beauty of why I brought

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: you on the show is to let people know beyond singing,

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: because a lot of people just see people as a

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01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: singer for the gift that they know. And I just

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01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: wanted people to know how fun you are, how relatable

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01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: you are, and how you have such a tremendous passion

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: to change lives. That's what you get when you read

1130
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: this book. You I I found it at the detail.

1131
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: I found the you know that I'm just gonna break

1132
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: it down. You know, she was she was she was

1133
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: a premi Okay, and um, we know the mortality rate

1134
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: on that for girls, they are stronger than boys. It's

1135
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: written in the book. I'm just you know, um, you know,

1136
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: she's from a Hispanic community, like I'm from a black community.

1137
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: A lot of people tell us we ain't gonna make it,

1138
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: and they tell us who what we can be in

1139
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: the stay in that lane. And her parents didn't do that.

1140
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Her parents didn't believe that, and uh, and and and

1141
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: so and even you know when she when she was

1142
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: blessed to get on the show X Factor and become

1143
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: a part of Fifth Harmony, she realized that wasn't her dream,

1144
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, and she living her dream now realized that's

1145
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: so much that it calls her to gain weight, it

1146
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: calls her to to uh as they say, you redirect

1147
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: her pain as you reread her pain to eating and

1148
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: she overcame there. So you have you have a discussion

1149
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: about that in the book, which is relatable to a

1150
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of young people, male and female. And then she

1151
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: talked about you know, going out on faith and going

1152
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: out there and when you go out on faith or

1153
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: you go out there and you're unknown, a lot of

1154
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: people don't because they the unknown is what it is,

1155
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, you have to trust yourself. You have to

1156
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: have people around you, and you've done that. Your parents

1157
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: around you, wheels around, your charms around you. You know,

1158
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: all these people have been around you, and I just

1159
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: I wish you much success. Now. I have a home

1160
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: in Houston and my headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. So if

1161
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: you ever get to Atlanta, I mean a mesta. Right now,

1162
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm feeling my very first movie. That's correct. My head

1163
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: is right here in Atlanta, right right in Atlanta. So

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01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: did Like I said, I've got to get your information

1165
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: and we've got to make them to happen. Because you

1166
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: are so awesome. I'm so blessed to even just talk

1167
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: to you. And the fact that you cherish and value

1168
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: my story and what matters to me and my family

1169
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: and those who who paved the way for me. It's

1170
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: it's it's a real blessing. Sir. Just just thank you

1171
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart for for knowing, um

1172
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: what's important to me and for sharing that with your

1173
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: audience and and understanding my heart. You know, it's not

1174
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: about oh, just a singer. No, it's about the heart

1175
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: and the spirit and the story. So I thank you

1176
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: for for valuing that and we have to keep in

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: stay in touch. So your info. Okay, well let me

1178
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: say goodbye everybody to hold on and we're spreading info

1179
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: after that. Okay, this has been money making conversations with

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01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: my fantastic guests. Ali Brook. That's Brook. Where to eat

1181
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: eat and finding your harmony. She's fantastic, dream big, have faith,

1182
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: which is very important. She's had has had it all

1183
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: in her family is tied to faith. Um, it's amazing

1184
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: to achieve more than you can imagine. That's important part

1185
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: of this conversation because you know, we tend to limit

1186
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: our dreams based on where we come from. And that's

1187
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 1: what that line is saying, achieved more than you can imagine.

1188
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: And if you have faith and you dream big, you

1189
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: can find your own harmony. My next guest I'm happy

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: to have on the phone. Uh. He's Rashid Wallace. He's

1191
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Sports Hall of Famer in sixteen year NBA

1192
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: veteran four time NBA All Star. He's a phillip philanthropists, activists,

1193
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: high school basketball coach, and co host Alex ga Technical

1194
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: podcast Where is MANBA teammate Buzzy Wells R. She's is

1195
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: dedicated to helping this community and bringing people together. He

1196
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: provides food and resources to underserve communities and cities including Philadelphia, Charlotte,

1197
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: during Flint, Detroit, and has been a leading voice into

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01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: the calling for an ind gun violence, police brutality, and

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01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: racial injustice. Please work with the money making conversations. Rashid Wallace, Hey,

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01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: thanks for having had a lot of sad. Had nothing

1201
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: to do basketball, just at the basketball at the beginning.

1202
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: But after that, man, you're all about the community. Man.

1203
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: Tell us about that transition man from the NBA to

1204
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: be a person that has a voice. There's not tied.

1205
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: You know, you always be known with sports, you always

1206
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: as part of your brand. But you know the step

1207
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: out there you can use six ft eleven almost seven

1208
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: feet tall, So you're always gonna make an interest in

1209
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: any room that you enter. But but your brand of

1210
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: what you're trying to be known for, now, what is it? Yeah? Um,

1211
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: just just being a good person to sum it up,

1212
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just try to be me.

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: You do what I can do, um the most highest.

1214
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: Put me in a position where I can help others. Um.

1215
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: As you mentioned on your intro, you know, different people

1216
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: have different different signs of success. And it's just a

1217
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: majority of people base their success, like you said, off

1218
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 1: of money, but I don't. I don't base my success

1219
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: off of money, because hey, just as fast as they

1220
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: coming can go to me. I I look at what what?

1221
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: What am I going to leave behind? What am I

1222
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: here for? What am I doing now? While I'm here?

1223
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 1: To me, that's my success. You know. I could just

1224
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: be sitting at home in couch Pertato, you know, retire,

1225
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: but I choose not to. I choose to be out

1226
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: there in the streets, in in the midst of it

1227
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: all to try to get to get life right, to

1228
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: get things right in our community, for our people, to

1229
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: make it better, you know, being And it's really interesting

1230
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: because you can't avoid who you are. You're nearly seven

1231
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: feet talk, so no matter where you go, you're gonna

1232
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: gain attention when you come in there. You're a good

1233
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: looking guy, you're tall, you dress right, and so with

1234
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: that attention, you can't and a vaud who what you've

1235
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: been or what you're trying to accomplish in life. And

1236
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: so when you talk about just right, money can't go. Man.

1237
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: Two thousand people found that out the stock market crash,

1238
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: and that money when left, right, and out of everybody's pods.

1239
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: And so that is a big old signal. And so

1240
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: when I see that you all over the country caring

1241
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: about different locations and places of needs, how does that

1242
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: exactly work? Do you have a staff, do you just

1243
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: you're watching television, you just have an urge to contribute?

1244
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: How does that work with you? With your with your organization, machid,

1245
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: it's not even the organization. It is just all from

1246
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: the muffle um. You know, I don't I don't have

1247
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: time to sit back and and get proper clearance to

1248
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: go here and then get this permit and that permit.

1249
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: Because by the time those things happen, you know your

1250
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: your cause is lass and people need these resources now,

1251
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: not a couple of months am round when people downtown

1252
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: decided to stamp it and now it's a permit. Okay,

1253
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: we could do it. No they don't. They need to

1254
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: help now. And that's that's always been the thing, is,

1255
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to trying to do what I

1256
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: could do. I've seen it growing up in my neighborhood.

1257
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: I got by, I guess you could say my community love.

1258
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: I got from my babysitter when I was a young fella.

1259
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: My babysitter was block casting, and so being that block captain,

1260
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: she was responsible for how to block Look, you know

1261
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: all the all the other homes, you know, the front houses,

1262
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: and you know how everything looks. And to me seeing

1263
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: that growing up was like okay, dad, Mr Core. She

1264
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: she really into you know, into her neighbors and this

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: and that. And then it just went on from there,

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01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, just showing different love and doing and doing

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01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: this and doing that. So I mean, I get a

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01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: joy out of it. Man, It's you know, I spent

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: my birthday up in Flint, Um a couple of weeks ago.

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: My birthday was on the seven Team. I spent my

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01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: birthday in Flint passing out resources to the people that

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: needed it. Man. And and to me, that was my

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: birthday present. You know when I knocked on them doors,

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, me and me and the other brothers and

1275
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: sisters that were out there, and we're knocking on them

1276
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: doors and we're dropping these packages off. And to see

1277
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: the smile on a lot of these people faces, like

1278
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: like Yo, that's that's it for me. That's that's that's

1279
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: what I do it for. I don't do it for

1280
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: no recognition. I could care less about the TV camera

1281
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: being out there or whatever. No, do it for the people? Well,

1282
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, so would you? Would you being there tell

1283
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: us my listeners and sometimes in some situation viewers what

1284
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: what is going on in Flint right now? He was

1285
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: up there passing out care packages. So there's feel a

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: need to be doing that. So what exactly from from

1287
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: a social standpoint, political standpard, what are they doing for

1288
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: those people up there? Well, everyone thinks that it's settled

1289
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: because the state of Michigan gave the residents to Flint

1290
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: six hundred million dollars. But that's that's not a lot

1291
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: of money because breaking it down, it's only gonna come

1292
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: out to something about I think liked hundred per person

1293
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: who was affected by this. And then you have to

1294
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: prove that you lived in this community or you know,

1295
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: through doctor's notes or whatever. I guess that you have, uh,

1296
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: you know, these illnesses from the lead being in the water,

1297
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: So you pretty much got to prove it to me.

1298
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: I see it all. I see, I see the kids

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: up there, you know, when it first happened, I'm up

1300
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: there in the community, and I really wish I still

1301
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: had the picture. I know, my cousin Mike. But we

1302
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: we took samples of the water, like, man, this this

1303
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: water was sober. Just imagine if you lived out in

1304
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: the field, right it's a big rain storm and you

1305
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: went out there and you got some mud from the

1306
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: mud hole and you put it all in the bottle

1307
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: on that and that whole muddy water. That's how this

1308
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: was up in Flint. And this is a yes, this

1309
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: is a capactrophe, like it wasn't allowed. When you saw

1310
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: pictures of this contaminated water looking lime green and you

1311
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: know do do brown and all that, that was real.

1312
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: And this is what they're trying to tell the people

1313
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: that you gotta bathe in, you gotta drink it, you know,

1314
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: just taking out our kids the elementary scores, cooking, you

1315
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: know every day like we take we take it for

1316
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: granted how much we use water every day. You know,

1317
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: when you wake up, what's the first thing you do,

1318
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, you take your shower, bright teeth and all that.

1319
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: Right right then, as you just mentioned water for your cooking,

1320
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, your coffee or your tea, you know, every

1321
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: day and they have about with bottle waters, with gallon

1322
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 1: bottle waters, you know, and you gotta heat this up.

1323
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: This is how you gotta watch and watch it up

1324
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: taking bird bass, you know. And it's just a certain

1325
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: area in Flint now. So so you know, I'm kind

1326
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: of tapping to your emotions because I know you always

1327
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: in the NBA, You's always show me you an emotional guy.

1328
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: And you're seeing this because a lot of this stuff

1329
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: is out of your hands. You know, you can't do

1330
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: anything or so you can go up there and you

1331
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: can passer that, but you know, this is only lack

1332
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: of like they say, a band band aide over a gunshot. Really,

1333
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: that's all it is. And so how do you how

1334
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: does do you want away from that? And and how

1335
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: do you maintain some degree of I just wanted to

1336
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: punch somebody in the face for being stupid because they

1337
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: see the same thing you see and they have the

1338
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: power to correct that problem. Yeah, in fact, but the

1339
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: people that they have the power to correct the problem

1340
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: are dragging their feet. You know why because them, their

1341
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: family and loved ones don't live in this area here.

1342
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: It is like like it's it's one specific area where

1343
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: we go to and Flint where it's uh, it's a

1344
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: majority of elderly people living. So you know, of course

1345
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: they can't get out there to that grocery store. You know,

1346
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: no matter if they got younger people in their family

1347
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: or not, you might might not be able to get

1348
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: out there. Or you know, you live, you and your husband,

1349
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: or you and your wife. You know, y'all live. Everybody

1350
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: out there. That takes y'all, you know, some time to

1351
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: be able to go out and do things. Well, that's

1352
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: why we're here, you know, and we we I don't

1353
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: have no problem with going door to door, you know,

1354
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: because it's it's first, it's all the peaceful matter. And

1355
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: if the people like the one of the resources boom,

1356
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave them on sentiments oiude of the door.

1357
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: It's not it's no problem. You know, I still hope

1358
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: you have a blessed day, right, So it's it's it's

1359
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: all about. It's all about just just as you mentioned,

1360
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: to look on those people's faces when we leave, and

1361
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: for us to say like, yo, we'll be back up

1362
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: in a couple of months. You know, we're gonna get

1363
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 1: the resources together again, like like they look forward to that.

1364
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: It's like almost like you know, a Christmas to some people,

1365
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: because it's like through the city, through the state. They

1366
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: don't care about this, but we gotta let them know. Hey,

1367
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: look y'ast of our brothers and sisters, we care about y'all.

1368
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: We care what's happening to y'all. And that's why we're

1369
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: here now, you know. That's what There's a number of

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01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: Citi is I miss you know, Clinton is pretty obvious.

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01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: What's gonna Flint, excuse me, pretty obviously going to I

1372
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: met you Philadelphia, Charlotte, Dorham and Detroit as some of

1373
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: the cities that you you went in and underserved communities.

1374
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: Can you tell us what you're doing in Philadelphia, what

1375
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: you've been doing, because I like to really the people

1376
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: to hear your story, because you know, man, you're all

1377
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: over the country, you know, and and and and participating

1378
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: and trying to make change. And I know you say, man,

1379
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't care for camera out there or uh, somebody's

1380
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: not that take picture, but I wish they are. I

1381
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: hope they are. I've seen your so for me, I've

1382
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: seen it. Because we need to have this story told

1383
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: because you're you're living it and it needs to be documented.

1384
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: And and that's one of the reasons I wanted to

1385
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: bring you on the show. Hey man, I know, I'm

1386
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: a big fan of your NBA cariber Man. What you're

1387
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: doing in the community is amazing, man. And so what

1388
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: do you what was the challenges in Philadelphia? Well, the

1389
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: first thing we're doing, um coming up Octolder sixteen and seventeen,

1390
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: UM the sixteenth, myself U Leonard Stewart, who was the

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01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: coach at Simon Gratz High School and all the powers

1392
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: to be at Gras High School. We're trying to put together,

1393
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: um a memorial for a former player who got killed

1394
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: to some senseless gun Violet and um. Until we're gonna

1395
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: put a rally together, you know, to drop the guns

1396
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: and get some hugs or you know, any type of

1397
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: sloking like that. But the main catches it's all about peace,

1398
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: you know for us to we're always talking about all

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01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: the white man is the white man that well guess what, Well,

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01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: if you help yourself out first, you know, you can't

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: blame them for everything. You can't blame the white man

1402
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: for everything because we do a lot of it to ourselves.

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01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: So if we if we gain that knowledge and and

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01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: and one thing I'd like to say is positivity is power.

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, even though negatively travel faster, everybody spreading it

1406
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: more and saying it more. But guess what, the power

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Speaker 1: of positivity can travel just as fast. All you gotta

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Speaker 1: do is get that right moment with the right people

1409
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: to touch other people. And what we have going on

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: is the drop the guns. In October seventeen, we're going

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Speaker 1: up to Lonnie Young Recreation Center in East Germantown and

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Speaker 1: we'll be stationed there and we're gonna do the same

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Speaker 1: things that we do and Flint and in other place

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. It's hard right here, man, I know it

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Speaker 1: really is. It really is. And then when you when

1439
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Speaker 1: you want to be a vorce to end gun violence,

1440
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: police brutality and racial injustice. You know we all know

1441
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: doing the pandemic. They uh. I would tell people that

1442
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: you know I'm older than you, and so I don't

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Speaker 1: you know the affect that I'm not comfortable when a

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Speaker 1: police officer pulls me over even though i know I've

1445
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: got nothing wrong. That that's not fair, that's not fair,

1446
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: or shed and and and and what happened to George

1447
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: Floyd kind of ignited not just black people, white people

1448
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Speaker 1: finally kind of salt and you know, it's like a

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Speaker 1: perfect storm pandemic. They're at the house, They're getting to

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Speaker 1: watch something that everybody kind of knew, their parents knew

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Speaker 1: for sure. The young people were being shielded by. They

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Speaker 1: open their eyes and go, okay, that's why I George.

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Speaker 1: Seeing so many white people march, I like that. That

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Speaker 1: brings up, That brings joy to my heart. And So

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about battling or trying to bring a

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Speaker 1: tenchtion to it, how what what role are you playing

1457
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: in all that? Rashida just just being there for the people.

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01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: Um As I mentioned, it's not about the cameras or whatever.

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: If I know I have some celebrity friends, you know,

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Speaker 1: ex teammates or whatever that can spare their time, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily need money. Like I

1462
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 1: tell everybody, they always oh, man, how can I how

1463
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Speaker 1: can I donate this? And that? I say, Hey, first off,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a foundation. I'm not an organization.

1465
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: I do this from the muffle. So what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do is I'll let you know the story

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Speaker 1: that we're using. Like when I was going up to Flint,

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Speaker 1: we used the Walmart that was in Detroit. Everybody who

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Speaker 1: wanted to who couldn't be there to want to chip in,

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Speaker 1: you know, to get the water and resources. Okay, call

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Speaker 1: of Walmart is purchased, and then we're putting it on

1472
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: our truck, on one of the pallets on our truck

1473
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: to go up there. So is that way you know

1474
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: you're getting it right there? It's not. It's not UH

1475
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: have to go through this funnel or that funnel. No,

1476
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: the resources going right there. If you want to buy

1477
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: uh two hundreds worth of baby diapers, then guess what

1478
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: it will be there, two hundreds worth of baby diapers.

1479
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, if and a buck about it. You know,

1480
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to become an organization to

1481
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: where I have people doubting me, doubting what I'm doing

1482
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: and thinking that their money like, oh man, you know

1483
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: that money ain't doing nothing. They just that's a scam. No,

1484
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a scam. You know, I'm right there with it,

1485
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: and it can't be right. You know, it's important that

1486
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: you say that because people do question you, you know.

1487
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 1: But you're a successful person. He's just out here temporary.

1488
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: That's why I like what you said. You tell the

1489
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: people you come back, because people don't. They think it's

1490
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: a one off and you are celebrity, your star, and

1491
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: so oh he's down here just to make himself feel

1492
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: good this week. But when you come back, that validates

1493
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: you to the community. It really does. And I've been

1494
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: in that position. I've been in a position with I've

1495
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: spoken just average students that these are one step away

1496
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: from going to jail if they make one more mistake.

1497
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: And their biggest cry to me was, now, you ain't

1498
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna come back? Yeah, what You're gonna get up out

1499
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: of here and you know, you know your time's up. Okay,

1500
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: And they get a little half clap, you know, sheet

1501
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: that you and so. But but I had to come

1502
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: back every week before I got them to believe that

1503
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: I cared about them. And that's really hard. And that's

1504
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: why you know what I'm talking to you. You understand

1505
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, that's why I understand why

1506
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: you went to high school coaching. I'm sure because you

1507
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: wanted to reach these kids and show that you care.

1508
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: Plus you have a your your success story in the

1509
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,839
Speaker 1: sport that they want to play. You went to college

1510
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: and then you proceed into the last an NBA for

1511
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: sixteen years, US an All Star. So so that's really

1512
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: you're an example you're using in your life as an

1513
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: example to them. I'm assuming correct, definitely, because I'm definitely

1514
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: not coaching for the pay. I'll tell you that, Well,

1515
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: you just had the muzzle. Now come over, you said

1516
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: the muzzle. Now you know that that high school basketball.

1517
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: It's not I love it, you know, it's I have

1518
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: the sense to mold and guy these young kids into

1519
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: becoming something in their lives. You might not necessarily be

1520
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: a pal athlete, but you would be a professional. Uh.

1521
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: This is actually the past season. I had had five fingers,

1522
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: So I don't I can't take credit for the three

1523
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 1: of them for the simple fact that they were playing football,

1524
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: so they already were. I was just the fact that

1525
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: they're athletic and could play basketball. But I had two

1526
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: guys on it who were seniors and in college, and

1527
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't a big college do whatever,

1528
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: but guess what it was the college to help them

1529
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: advance their life, to get that preparation and That's that's

1530
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: what it's all about. That's what I love. You know.

1531
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: It's a hard road, really, that's what Hey, that's why

1532
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: I coach here, absolutely, you know. And like I said,

1533
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: like you said, the thing that to your mantra has

1534
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: always been is not about the money. And so I

1535
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: didn't expect it when I was talking about high school.

1536
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect you just say they're paying you, because

1537
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: we know that's not the case. We know that you're

1538
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: there to change lives. And when I look at your

1539
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: whole agenda is about changing lives. Now, now you have

1540
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: a podcast and and it's called Let's Get Technical. Um,

1541
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's uh tied to some things you you

1542
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: did in your care uh. She since you set the record,

1543
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, because cause I tell everybody about the record.

1544
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: You're sett in two thousand and two thousand and one

1545
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: received forty one technical files over a span up eighty games,

1546
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: about one technical file for every two games. What was

1547
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: going through your mind that season? But she, um, I

1548
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: had a lot of things. You don't have them, some

1549
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: family things and you know, just just some of the

1550
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: pressures of just just playing and wanting to win, and

1551
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, playing against great adversaries at that time. Um,

1552
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: it was. It was also a fact of you know that,

1553
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion, they tried to control me, and like,

1554
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: I know, I'm a grown man. You're not going to

1555
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: control me. I'm respectable. I'm not gonna do nothing stupid

1556
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: to jeopardize my job. But but damn, let me be me.

1557
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my work. And then you know it

1558
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: all it all came out in the end when you know,

1559
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I was vindicated through certain actions and you know it's

1560
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: really important, like you know on that with Bondsy Well,

1561
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm based in Atlanta right now, but I'm

1562
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, So I know Bonds it well ball

1563
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: state baller. You know when he was ust Rockets and

1564
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: you ranging him up in Portland when he was in Portland,

1565
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: right when he was drafted by the Trail Players, Right,

1566
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: So did your body immediately just a relationship they kind

1567
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: of like grew out and you guys just because you know,

1568
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: you got traded several times and so did he. How

1569
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: did you has maintained this relationship? Well, it was the

1570
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: first bonds of my rookie. You know, that's that's my

1571
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: guy right there. Absolutely, Um, he was my rookie in Portland.

1572
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 1: We drafted him and when he came, like truth be, so,

1573
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about bonding because at the time,

1574
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, the powers to be that we're in the

1575
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: front office wasn't pretty much sharing who they had ideas

1576
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 1: of drafting or any of that. They didn't share that

1577
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: with us. So what was fine with me? Hey, I

1578
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: had no problem with it. But when Bonds he first

1579
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: came in there and the first practice that that we had,

1580
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, he was a little timid. He was a

1581
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: little timid because he didn't know quite what to expect

1582
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: because it was all new for him because six months

1583
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: before he was just watching this on TV. Here it

1584
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: is now he's in practice with it. So you know,

1585
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: that really does affect players like that, you know, to

1586
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: come in and see you guys and realize they are

1587
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: on the floor old with you guys. Does it really

1588
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: affect players like that? Oh? Yes, it does. It does.

1589
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: It's it's it's everybody gets star struck, especially if it's

1590
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: a player you like. Like when I first came into

1591
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: the league. Man, let me tell you this, Patrick Guillen

1592
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: was my guy, all right, And so I came into

1593
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the League. Playing against Pat Pat bust my ass. I'm

1594
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: mainly I'm mainly still in all like yo, and I'm

1595
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: playing against Pat ewing be dunking on me. I'm playing

1596
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: against and he hitting the little fade away jump shot.

1597
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, So yeah, we get star struck. But

1598
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: he snapped out of it within the first week though,

1599
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: and once he came around, we've seen he was a dog.

1600
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, young fellow, you you're gonna be good on

1601
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: this team coming right now. You know, I'll be remiss

1602
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: to talk about you. You got to play against Michael

1603
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Jordan's You know, I didn't all. I was just a

1604
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: fan just watching the guy. And dude, give us your

1605
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: impression of playing against this guy and his his abilities

1606
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: and his talents on the basketball court. We're just talking

1607
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: about the basketball court and Michael Jordan's um. I would

1608
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: say he's probably one of the top competitors that I've

1609
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: ever seen and played again, you know, and and and

1610
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: literally he wants to beat every game I'm talking about.

1611
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 1: It could be anything like you guys can be playing

1612
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: pig or horse or like, oh, I bet you that

1613
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 1: I could throw this this football further than you know,

1614
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: you can't he wants to be. He's that competitive where

1615
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: he wants to beat every game, and that's what that's

1616
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: what drove him, That's what that's what drove him to

1617
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: be the player that he was throughout his career. Because

1618
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best. You better be ready because

1619
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm gonna be the best. And playing against him,

1620
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: it was the same thing I just mentioned about. Boy.

1621
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: I was in all too the first time I played

1622
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: against Mike when I was in Washington, you know, because

1623
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: again I'm I'm watching this man, you know, up an

1624
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: adult contest and in the championships and boom now here,

1625
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: I got a front row seat to see his brother.

1626
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: So it was it was definitely fun. But he's a

1627
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 1: hell of a competitor. Cool. Now, now you've got a

1628
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: hell of a contetitor, competitor on your podcast show. Let's

1629
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: get technical now. We talked a lot of things about

1630
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: the community. What is your podcast show and what is

1631
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: your interview angling what is your approach? What is what

1632
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: is the point of view of your podcast show? Let's

1633
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: get technical with Bondsi Wells Well Bonds and I are

1634
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: our main thing is to get information out there and

1635
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 1: have fun with it to be different. You know, there

1636
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: are a lot of professional athletes who have their own

1637
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 1: lane in dealing with podcasts and you know, some YouTube

1638
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: stuff and all of that. But Bonds and Now, of

1639
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 1: course we're different, two different personalities, but we're gonna let

1640
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: the people know from our point of view. You know,

1641
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: we're there, We're we're there in the community. You know,

1642
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: bondsy dust community work as well up there in Indiana

1643
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: where he lives at um Our Our our whole show

1644
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: is just more than basketball, Yes it is. We're more

1645
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 1: than even though that's our that was our job. But

1646
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, we want to be known for having some

1647
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: insight on football, boxing, baseball. Uh, you know, a whole

1648
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: lot of social injustice that's going on now. Um, just

1649
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things. We touched on every topic. Now

1650
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: the interesting things like now, Bonds as a as a hoot,

1651
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: as they say, my as my mom was. He's a hoot,

1652
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: he's funny, he's entertaining. Uh you know, he's sarcastic. And

1653
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: so their personality is blind because you know, uh, Rush's

1654
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more edgier than Bonds. But they're both passionate,

1655
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: but they have different ways to get to the passion.

1656
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: And that's why I enjoyed seeing seen a couple of

1657
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: episodes that laugh because of the fact that you know,

1658
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: even in the in the in the booth, there's a

1659
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: hype difference. Okay, in the and it's really cool. But

1660
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: I have you read the book yet, Rushi. I have

1661
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: a couple of children's book Okay, cool. The reason I

1662
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: want to bring up this famous line ball don't lie

1663
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: first time I heard it, and and and the reason

1664
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I want to close the show talking about that because

1665
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: it's more than just about basketball. When I really broke

1666
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: it down, and and it's about life. Don't lie. It's

1667
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: a boy the effort. And I don't want to get

1668
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: too far into the description because I wanted to be

1669
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: say it out of your boards, out of your tone,

1670
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: out of your language, because of the fact that you

1671
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 1: know you And when I first heard you said you know,

1672
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so profound. And then I did

1673
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: by research, I went, wow, this is really applies to

1674
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: corporate America. This doesn't just apply. This apply to education.

1675
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: This applies to what the what the what America is

1676
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: going through right now? It doesn't lie, you know, brutality

1677
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 1: in the COVID and eighteen, the economy, then difference between

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01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 1: racial and differences that we have in America. Because the

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01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: ball don't lie in the end, it tells the truth.

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Speaker 1: Tell us how you come up with that phrase, ball

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01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: don't lie? And tell us if you if you ever

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01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: write a book for adults, that has to be the

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01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: title of that book. But let's go talk about ball

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01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: don't lie because I'm just telling I know you, I

1685
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: know you've talked about it, talking to have talked about

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01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: it a lot in your life. But it's so profound man,

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01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: and and it means so much to so many different people.

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Speaker 1: When you go to Flint, ball don't lie. It don't

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Speaker 1: lie that that young man dying being shot. Ball don't lie,

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Speaker 1: drop these drugs. But let me say I'm not still

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Speaker 1: in your thunder Rashid. Tell us what ball don't lie?

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Speaker 1: How did it tell? How did it come about? And

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01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: how did you realize it was a unique phrase? You

1694
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 1: have to hold on too well? Truthfully, I first heard

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Speaker 1: it on the schoolyards the Philly like basketball um, And

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Speaker 1: it was just something you know, we always said, along

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Speaker 1: with a whole lot of other you know, trash talking

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01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: right right, So when um it's It's like, okay, say,

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01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: say you and I are playing right and you try

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01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: to take me to the basket, but and you think

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01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: I found you, but we both know I didn't foul.

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01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: You can foul because the game point and you missed

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01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: the shot, all right, and then so boom, so you

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01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: get the ball back and you missed the shot, and

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01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: I get the REBA. Hey that ball don't lie. So

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01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: come on, and now it's my turn. You know what

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01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it just carried over to the n

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Speaker 1: b A. And you know, I was mainly saying that

1709
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: when the rest were called the you weat cheesy fouls

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01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: on me and the guys that go to the style

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Speaker 1: line and they missed that first. Hey, ball don't lie.

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01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: It's karma. It's a basketball guy, right right. That's hot. Man.

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01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: You know I wanted this is the first time we've spoken. Um.

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01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: I hope you keep me in your in your memories

1715
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: about any opportunities if you ever want to do a documentary. Man,

1716
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: ball don't lie documentary, because that's what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: For she one thing about my gift. Man, I see stuff, brother,

1718
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: and I see it come to truth. And you are

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01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: special man. You're special because your story what I need

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01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: to people see your story. I want your story worry

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01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: on tape. I want your efforts on tape. I want

1722
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Speaker 1: your blessings that you're sharing with America, no matter what color,

1723
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Speaker 1: on tape because you're out there doing what you say. Man,

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Speaker 1: Ball don't lie, brother, you're the truth. Man. I appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: good brother, for sure. You know I'm just playing my part,

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01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: doing what I'm supposed to do. You're just coming off

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Speaker 1: the bench. Brother, that's all. Coming off the bench and

1728
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: doing what you gotta do. Or thank you for calling

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Speaker 1: my show man. And we're gonna talk soon, man, And

1730
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a call from me, man, because I'm serious. Brother.

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Speaker 1: You might not want tape on you, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put some tape on you, Okay, you anybody by Rushan McDonald,

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Speaker 1: I say what I'm gonna do. Man. You two special, brother,

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Speaker 1: You weren't you special? Man? Be sitting about here talking

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Speaker 1: about he made muscle up. Now we're gonna muscle up

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Speaker 1: together and put you on tape because you change this

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Speaker 1: world man by what you do, and you are a

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Speaker 1: to be That story needs to be told because if

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Speaker 1: we don't let you tell the story, man, then guess

1743
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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation dot com. I's Sean McDonald, I'm your host.

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Speaker 1: off screen and the stories that I write and create

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Speaker 1: and curate. I always want to come from a place

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money Making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is Vivian Wild. Her fine jewelry business

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01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: was founded on the belief that jewelry should be luxurious.

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01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: I love that uxurious. That company, however, came to an

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Speaker 1: abrupt end following her divorce, and the main producer of

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01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: the stones was her former husband, who refused to provide

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Speaker 1: the material for her to continue her venture. Thus she

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01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: had to reinvent herself. Vivian stories about being a single mother,

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01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and bedding on yourself and when you look

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01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: at and taking a leap of faith with a plan.

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01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 1: That's key, right there, leap of faith with a plan

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01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: and invested every diamond her new fine jewelry venture. She's

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Speaker 1: on the show to tell her story and will motivate

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Speaker 1: us with her story. Please work with the money making conversation.

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Speaker 1: They're fantastic. Vivian, Wow, thank you so much for having me. Rashan,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing being here with you today. Well you know,

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Speaker 1: I really you know in the industry because I have

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01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: a good friend she's in Arizona. She's in the dining business,

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01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 1: and she told me, how, let's go how you know,

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Speaker 1: very few females have uh in the in the jewelry business,

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Speaker 1: especially in the dining business. So we're talking about an

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Speaker 1: industry and you can always correct me from wrong that

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01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: is male dominated. And because it's male dominated, women who

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01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: come into the business are find it difficult to break in.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, it is a very

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Speaker 1: male dominated industry and when you are a woman's people

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01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 1: look at you like you're not gonna make it. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's changing a little bit now with the whole you know,

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Speaker 1: e commerce online world that's becoming you know, the most

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Speaker 1: prominent uh jewelry uh market right now because of everything

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Speaker 1: that's going on with the world. Um, so a lot

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Speaker 1: of entrepreneur world. Uh it's entrepreneurial minds. Females are coming

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Speaker 1: in and are able to really get their space in

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Speaker 1: the business. But you're you know, it's really and it

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Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of and I'm glad you're saying

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Speaker 1: that because of technology, because the way e commerce works

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Speaker 1: now and also when we look at what the COVID

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Speaker 1: has done the way it shut down this country, and

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Speaker 1: brick and mortars really had to reinvent themselves and people

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01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: are now shopping online more than ever. In fact, they

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Speaker 1: entrust the process more than ever. And so with that,

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Speaker 1: with that whole shutdown, how did that affect your approach

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Speaker 1: to business? Did you change your model or did you

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of people are spoken to big corporation

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Speaker 1: and small entrepreneurs, they said they benefited from the COVID shutdown.

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Speaker 1: That's me definitely, because we never actually had any brick

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Speaker 1: and motor stores. My my new jewelry line, which Isual,

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Speaker 1: did this. We'll actually launch at the end of last year.

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Speaker 1: So when we launched, COVID was already like kind of

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Speaker 1: taking place, not you know much, but it was already

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Speaker 1: like coming to the States. So everybody already had that concern.

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Speaker 1: But when when we decided to UH launch a sale

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Speaker 1: because I was actually going to close the store, the

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Speaker 1: store was going to be closed for good because it

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Speaker 1: wasn't doing well, we launched a fifty fifty percent off

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Speaker 1: discount UH store closing sale, and then the store exploded.

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Speaker 1: And I truly believe, I truly believe that the main

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Speaker 1: reason for that was the us of COVID because we

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Speaker 1: got to at that specific time, there were a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that were stuck at home, and now we're

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Speaker 1: putting this incredible, incredible, sustainable eighteen carrot diamonds jewelry line

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Speaker 1: in front of them, in also the social media and

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Speaker 1: marketing techniques and all of that, and it's dis percent

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01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: of now and people are like, Okay, I need to

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01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: buy online anyway. So that's that's what kind of a

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01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 1: made us like it. It was, it was it was

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Speaker 1: a life saving time for us. Okay, Vivian, Okay, you

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01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: sound upbeat, sound like a person who's got good things

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Speaker 1: happening in her life right now. Was it always like this?

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01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: Was it always just upbeat? What were the struggles? Because

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Speaker 1: when I talk about jewelry, because we said look jurious,

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01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: which means already that's that's that's an elevated the word,

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01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: the word that elevated above another price tag this out there.

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01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: So what is your market share? Who are you trying

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01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: to reach in your market share in your jewelry business? Yeah?

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01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: So for my jewelry, basically I have a luxury jewelry line,

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01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: but with very affordable and attainable prices. So when I

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01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: when I wanted to launch my jewelry line, I wanted

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01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: to create a line that I would be able to

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01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: create everything that I would like to wear. So I'm

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Speaker 1: from Brazil, right. I do not wear sporteen carry goals,

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01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: So all of my jewelry pieces are made in recycled

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01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: sustainable eighteen carry goals. I do not wear natural diamonds.

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01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 1: I only wear love grown diamonds because of all the

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01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: conflict that comes with mauch with mine diamonds. So all

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01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: of my jewelry is made with with love grown diamonds

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Speaker 1: and all of that. So the people that I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to read are women, are the Mordern woman. The women

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01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: that are conscious about what they wear. They want to

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01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: they want to pay a fair price, they want to

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01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: get good quality, they want to get luxury. Um. So

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01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: my business model when I started this jellery line was

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01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 1: like I could create a brand and then I could sell,

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01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: you know to retail, and then I could go ahead

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01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: and sell to big wholesale stores. But why should I?

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01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Why would I do that? So what what I decided

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01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: to do was like I'm gonna cut off the middleman

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01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sell this amazing jewelry to people directly online.

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01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: So it's a juristical summer brand. It's affordable and it's luxurious.

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01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 1: So I'm looking for the model, the woman. I'm looking

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01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: for the people that are conscious about quality and their

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01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: conscious conscious about about how they send their money as well.

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01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 1: We know, like you said, crafted from eighteen care gold

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01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: and ethnically crafted diamonds and gemstones, offers the one to

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01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 1: calm jewelry experience designed for the modern one, as she

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Speaker 1: stated earlier, compromising a unique series of collection, each Jason's

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01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: aired by women of the world, travelers, adventure seekers and dreamers,

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Speaker 1: with each distinct piece corresponding to transcendent, elegant journeys. You know,

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Speaker 1: I make that statement because as a buyer, I'm gonna

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01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: tell you right now, Vivian, I know nothing about yours,

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01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: and it scares me when I look at jewelry because

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01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a reference. And I know about clothes.

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01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I know my tailor Bay clothes, I know about love

1893
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: the bags, I know by cars, I know by houses.

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01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: When it comes to jewelry, vibe, you're looking at a

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01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: big dummy right here, and that most people, How how

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01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 1: can you help me too, because I'm serious. I go

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01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 1: into jeworldy, I will walk past, I look at the watch.

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01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: I look when it comes to them, those diamonds and

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01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 1: ear rings, and how can you how can you help

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Speaker 1: a guy like me that really doesn't as small as

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Speaker 1: a whip? Now, when it comes to economics, comes to planning,

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01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 1: comes to building careers and setting market Campcaigne. When it

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01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: comes to what you're talking about, I'm like a baby. Yeah, well, um,

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01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: and that's most people. That was me before I actually

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Speaker 1: got into you. And it's it's one of those things

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01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 1: because you know, the diamonds industry is controlled by some

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Speaker 1: really big powerful corporation. I don't want They don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know the boody, you know, they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know that the bad aspect of it. They

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01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: only want you to know the diamonds are beautiful and

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Speaker 1: they should spend a lot of money on them. They

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Speaker 1: want you to think the diamonds are rare. They are

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01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: not rare. Mind, diamonds, they're not rare. That's all a lie.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that as well. I thought that as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: the diamonds industries is basically made by uh phenomenal marketing strategy.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is diamonds are not rare. UH. Gold

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Speaker 1: mining destroyed communities UH in a way that you can't

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Speaker 1: even begin to understand. And diamond mining destroys many communities,

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Speaker 1: and and and there's a massive, massive history of slavery

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Speaker 1: that goes with it and child labor, and people just

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01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 1: don't know about it because of the marketing strategies and

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Speaker 1: also because it's easier not knowing about it. Right. So,

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01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 1: when when I launched you I divid Um, even though

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Speaker 1: I already had I had lunch with storms. I was

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Speaker 1: doing amazing with my first jewel Religne, which was the

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Speaker 1: one that that you know, I was a business partner

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Speaker 1: with my ex husband. And then when I had to

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Speaker 1: read them myself and create this new jewel Relne that

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01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 1: did include diamonds and gold and all of that, I

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Speaker 1: had to dig in deep. I had to educate myself

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Speaker 1: to understand exactly what I was gonna do with my

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Speaker 1: materials and where they were coming from and what kind

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Speaker 1: of practices were being uh used on getting them here

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Speaker 1: to my studio for me to be able to make

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Speaker 1: my jewelry to my clients. And at that point when

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Speaker 1: I dug in I learned how boody and disgusting this right,

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01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 1: and it's it's as like it's disgusting. So that's when

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Speaker 1: I want. I was like, Okay, if I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do jewelry, I need to find a way to do

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Speaker 1: it the right way. So for example, we have a

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01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: history of you know, gold mining destroying communities and that's

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Speaker 1: that's not just like it Africa, No, that's also here

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Speaker 1: in not a stay. We have like a massive gold

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Speaker 1: mine uh in in in Utah that if you if

1945
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: you look it up, it's like communities around it have

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01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: been devastated and people have been poisoned. It's it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Um So. I all of our jewelry is made with

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Speaker 1: actual recycled gold. Um so, that is basically uh lowering

1949
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: the need of mining new gold. Um so that that

1950
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 1: was one way that we found to to help with

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Speaker 1: that issue. Then what the what the mind's diamonds? And

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01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 1: then you know today there's so much availability of a

1953
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Speaker 1: fine jewelry a line and you go into a lot

1954
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: of these stores are very affordable and they're gonna they

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Speaker 1: always have ethical minds diamonds And when they say say that,

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Speaker 1: they basically say, um, they use diamonds to have they

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Speaker 1: Kimberley process certification. But basically, when I started learning about

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Speaker 1: the Kimberley process, what they do is that they will

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Speaker 1: certify a batch of diamonds, and then you really don't

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01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: know where those diamonds are coming from. You don't know

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Speaker 1: who minded, you don't know how they were minded. You

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01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know if he was a child, if he was

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Speaker 1: an adult. So even though there's a certification that ethical,

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Speaker 1: is it really ethical? It's if there's no way for

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01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,839
Speaker 1: you to know all. So that's when I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: today the etc. Have said that you cannot call a

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01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: diamond uh natural or unnatural anymore. It's either mind or

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Speaker 1: live love grown, because they are the same. If it's

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01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: a love grown diamonds, it's a it's a diamonds grown

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Speaker 1: in a chamber in a in a in a high

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Speaker 1: pressure chamber, exactly like the one created you know on Earth.

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Speaker 1: So so the thing is we have something that's exact

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Um, people still don't understand that. It's

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01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: a challenge actually educating people to understand who have grow

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01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: diamonds are real diamonds. So why are we using the

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01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 1: die mean that that that destroy communities, that cure kids,

1977
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: that that use child glavery. While are we using those diamonds?

1978
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: Why are we using the diamonds that we don't know

1979
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: where they're coming from. So that's where I started working

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01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: directly with the diamond uh makers. Now you know our

1981
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: grown diamond growers to be able to make our diamonds,

1982
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 1: and with that, we're able to track the diamonds back

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Speaker 1: to exactly it's the exact uh beginning. So when it

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01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: was a little a little seed and it goes into

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01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 1: a chamber, who is working on that chamber, what's the

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Speaker 1: name of that person, How long it took. We know

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Speaker 1: everything about the diamonds from from beginning to end, So

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01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 1: that gave us a traceability uh process that we really

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable with the products products that we're selling. But

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Speaker 1: again I didn't know any of that until I started

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Speaker 1: making it right, so most people don't and that that's

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest challenges in the industry. What we're coming,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we're talking about sustainable fine jewelry, because

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Speaker 1: we need to advocate people. But what's come a long way.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually very confident that in the next few

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Speaker 1: know the thing about because a lot of people come

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Speaker 1: to mind. So I rarely have jewelry people on my

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Speaker 1: show because because I did the backstory and I found

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01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: a very honest person, a very person who cares about

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Speaker 1: the community, a person who makes impactful gestures about her

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01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: brand and what she tries to do if success comes away,

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01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: she shares in in for instance, October is Breast Cancer

2027
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: Awareness Month, and you can say off statewide on her

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01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: website and ten percent of all October sales to the

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01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: National Breast Cancer Foundation. That's what that's important to me

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01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 1: to say to people because my part of my life

2031
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: since I was eighteen years old has always been getting back,

2032
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 1: has always been tied to uplifting. I don't know why

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01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: I did it, Vivie it it was just part of

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01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: my DNA, and I feel it's important that we understand

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01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: that with success it has to be a shared experience.

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Speaker 1: To me, because everybody does not get it, and everybody

2037
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: is not going to be a millionaire. Our thousand. There

2038
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there just going to

2039
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 1: struggle all their lives, and so the ones we have

2040
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: figured it out that I figured you're one of those

2041
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 1: people who has figured it out. And I'm not saying

2042
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: you Bill Gates, but you figured it out enough to

2043
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 1: be able to share and be responsible in your goals

2044
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 1: of sharing and being a philanthroper when it comes up

2045
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 1: philanthropists when it comes to being able to share your

2046
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: wealth talk about the importance of October breast cancer want

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01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: to your brand and to you well, uh, for me,

2048
01:55:54,960 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: I have a very personal uh relationship or west with

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 1: bread cancer because I've had in my life several people

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01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: that uh I had to struggle with with bread cancer.

2051
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 1: And to me, as as you just mentioned, I mean,

2052
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 1: there's no point of chasing success in life if when

2053
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: you find it, you're not going to share with other

2054
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: peoples that needed UH. And And for me, like since

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01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 1: I started my my jewelry line, you know before it

2056
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: was the Stormcline Dewlry A knowledge what did you know

2057
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: the first month for the storm Sine Jewelry, we actually

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01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: donated I think like thirty thou dollars to make a

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01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: wish uh, and to help you know, kids the need

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01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: out there, like and we do it all the time. UM.

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01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 1: So I have a specific, very specific foundations that are

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01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: very close to my heart. One of them is make

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01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: a Wish uh And every time we do a donation,

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01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 1: we get a little clique called the Story of the

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01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: Kids that we're able to give that wish, and it's

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 1: just it just fills my heart, uh that we were

2067
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: able to help with with that. Um. The second one

2068
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 1: is Send You and what they do for kids with

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01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 1: cancer and critical conditions, there's like I don't even have

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01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: words to explain, um, how grateful I am for what

2071
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: they do. And the third one is when it comes

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Speaker 1: to breast cancer, and we do support several breast cancer foundations,

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01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: this one is the one that we we we picked

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01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 1: for this year, but we try doing you know, as

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01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: much as we can. Um. And Yeah, I think that

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01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: it's important that in October, you know, smaller and bigger

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01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: brands come together and bring awareness to this issue. And

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01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 1: it's able to to to to raise enough money to

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01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 1: help with their research. So maybe possibly one day we

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01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 1: we can get ahead of it, you know, and find

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Speaker 1: the cure and and and help Uh. This woman and

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: that have to go through it. And sometimes they are

2083
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: able to beat it. Sometimes they're not. And these women

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01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: are mothers, their sisters, they are you know, their daughters,

2085
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: and and it could be me and and my sister.

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01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: She was a person who was a victim of breast

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Speaker 1: cancer and a good friend of mine recently was a

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01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: victim of it. And you know, I'm not just saying.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm a big fan of Vivian. It's just

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Speaker 1: stuff I'm talking about because of the fact that you

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01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 1: it's the fact that you care, the fact that you

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01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: think about other than buying a car or house. That's

2093
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 1: not at the priority list of your everyday thought process.

2094
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: It's about running your business, being a powerful mother, and

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01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 1: being also being able to share your success by offering

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01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: opportunities for other people to have a good life. And

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Speaker 1: that's what this conversation is about. And you know you've

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Speaker 1: been you know, your your story has been sharing Vanity

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Speaker 1: Fair and for Forbes, Town and Country, your whole life.

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Speaker 1: You know it's in You're the best sustainable jewelry brand

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Speaker 1: you can buy. To day when they say that about

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Speaker 1: your company, I know it's a big smile come across

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Speaker 1: your face, but it also has to be I told you,

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Speaker 1: I told you. Yeah, It's like I got good bumps

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Speaker 1: right now, because I mean I truly believe that, you know,

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Speaker 1: life is a working in progress. I think that we

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Speaker 1: never we never stopped growing, right, And uh, you know

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Speaker 1: a year ago today, when we were launching this brand,

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Speaker 1: Rushan like it was a disaster. We did not sell

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Speaker 1: a dime for six months. We were like, literally I

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Speaker 1: put a million dollars of my money every time that

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Speaker 1: we had. I put a million dollars into this brand.

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Speaker 1: And then in six months we had no sales. We

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Speaker 1: did we had a massive team, we had a phenomenal team,

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Speaker 1: and nothing was happening until one day that I said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna do something else because

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Speaker 1: now I you know, I have a million dollars year,

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Speaker 1: had I hundred thousand dollars of that, and and I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a serio entrepreneur, so I've being there several times.

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Speaker 1: I know what I have to do to get out

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Speaker 1: of the whole. But you know, you still you still,

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Speaker 1: you still shake when you get there. And and then

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Speaker 1: that's when I opened my my other company. I own

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Speaker 1: a financial company as well, ID a financial group and

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Speaker 1: then my other other company took off like a rocket,

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Speaker 1: and that's when I decided that I was gonna close

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Speaker 1: you other Vivien, even though it's my second child. For me,

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Speaker 1: it was very hard because I was like, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is not working. I'm gonna close them, gonna put a

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Speaker 1: fifty percent off discounts, I'll sell everything out, and then

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Speaker 1: I'm going to concentrate on this company of here because

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Speaker 1: it's doing really well. And then when the company took off,

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Speaker 1: and now to see how amazing it's doing, when we

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Speaker 1: really really really hit rock bottom and we thought there

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Speaker 1: was no getting back from that, it's truly it gives

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Speaker 1: me goose bumps to think that, Um, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: all about your mindset, it's about how hard you work,

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Speaker 1: it's all about you believing in yourself. And now when

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Speaker 1: I get these unbelievable uh you know, brands and media

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Speaker 1: and editors writing things like we're the best sustainable brand

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Speaker 1: you can buy today, I have no words to explain

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Speaker 1: how grateful I am. Because you're saying you started in December, correct,

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Speaker 1: we we we did a soft lunch in October um.

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Speaker 1: The actual lunch was in December UM. And in it

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Speaker 1: was actually around the April that were like, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: closing in and that's and that's when we exploded. And

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Speaker 1: so that's the exploded now because whenever I, whenever I

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Speaker 1: invite people on the show, I would like to go

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Speaker 1: to their websites, because the website tell a story about

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Speaker 1: their brands and how they market in there the story

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Speaker 1: they're trying to tell about this success. The reason I

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Speaker 1: brought up the fact that she says soft launch in

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Speaker 1: October December kind of rolled out April frustration set in. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this time to go to another direction. Now we're talking

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02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 1: and celebrating them and and donating the charities. Right now,

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Speaker 1: on her website, she has real reviews from real customers.

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Speaker 1: Right she said April it really kind of took off.

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Speaker 1: She has five hundred and three reviews. Look, did y'all

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Speaker 1: hear me? Did y'all? Did y'all hear But I just

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Speaker 1: said five hundred and three. This says she's not selling

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Speaker 1: toilet paper, she's not selling Hamburgers, she's not chelling Chick

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Speaker 1: fil a wings, she is lux re jewer Line necklaces, rings,

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Speaker 1: you know, five hundred and three reviews. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I love it is the fact that you know, like

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Speaker 1: one of them just three hours ago, one was two

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Speaker 1: days ago, what was five days ago? So what means

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Speaker 1: that she is bold enough to tell you when they're

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Speaker 1: coming in? That's our confidence. She isn't our praying to

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Speaker 1: let you know, I have a reason to lack about

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Speaker 1: what I do. I have people who believe in my brain.

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Speaker 1: They post about my brain. They tell them they are

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Speaker 1: positive customers. That is really see, there's an openness about

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Speaker 1: you viving that I just love. Where did they come from? Well,

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Speaker 1: I really truly believe that we need to be a

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Speaker 1: transparent in everything in life, right and I and I

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Speaker 1: think that word of mouth is still the best market

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Speaker 1: marketing you can have. So for me, and I mean

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Speaker 1: just so you have an idea that the percentage of

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Speaker 1: people that actually write reviews after they receive a product

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Speaker 1: is really only about five The majority of the people

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Speaker 1: that buy our jewelry don't write reviews. Right now, we're

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Speaker 1: selling anywhere from five to seven hundred pieces and months

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Speaker 1: and the majority of those items people are awaiting four

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Speaker 1: till six weeks, six to eight weeks to receive them

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Speaker 1: because we can't make them. I know that I'm just

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Speaker 1: letting you know, and people need to understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: In April she was frustrated. So we're talking really May, June, July, August, September,

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Speaker 1: five hundred and three reviews, roughly a hundred and three

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Speaker 1: people of a hundred people a month screaming that they

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Speaker 1: loved this woman, love her jewelry, love what she's doing,

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Speaker 1: love her brand. That's an incredible number. I know you're

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Speaker 1: selling seven hundred pieces of a month, but for a

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Speaker 1: hundred people a month to come back one of them

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Speaker 1: just three hours ago, three hours ago, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, talking about how they love this, that is important.

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say that because publicly people

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Speaker 1: don't do this. People don't people don't expose themselves on that.

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Speaker 1: You could just go, you know, yelp. I'm talking like

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Speaker 1: things like yep, this is the same thing here. Ye have.

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Speaker 1: People go to the restaurant, they don't like it, they

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Speaker 1: tell you they don't like it, the jenor they love it.

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Speaker 1: Five hundred and three in less than five months. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'm just saying. I'm just complimenting you. It's all.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan conversation.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: it because it's transparent because people actually get to write

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Speaker 1: what they feel and then other people and then and

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Speaker 1: then it's awesome when people actually bles videos and pictures

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Speaker 1: as well help other people see how they look on

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Speaker 1: on their hands and their not and everything. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important that there is that transparency

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Speaker 1: factor in there so people understand how the item and

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Speaker 1: the jewelry is in real life. So so now we're

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Speaker 1: now we were all we have a level of planing

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Speaker 1: field with this online business. We e commerce type business.

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Speaker 1: What's the future of your brand? The future is um,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. We are working on a few different things

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Speaker 1: right now. I actually just got engaged that I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: And uh, we were launching an engagement ring collection on

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Speaker 1: which I I'm reading the very first one of them, um,

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Speaker 1: which was made by by my brand and dying there.

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Speaker 1: Uh So we're launching incredible engagement ring collection coming January.

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Speaker 1: Then we're launching another collection of every janry pieces that

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Speaker 1: are a bolder heavier as well as well as a

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Speaker 1: collection with assassires and rubies and and and we're creating

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Speaker 1: amazing purpose, but women and suppliers that we want to

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Speaker 1: empower and we want to work with as well as

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Speaker 1: black owned business because it's it's a very big passion

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Speaker 1: of mine to work with women and and minorities. I'm

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Speaker 1: a minority, I'm a Latina, I'm a woman, and I

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Speaker 1: work very hard and I'm getting where I want to.

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Speaker 1: So I want to empower as much as I and

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Speaker 1: amazing people around me that are doing the same. Um So,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, we have some new collections coming up. We

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Speaker 1: are working on on on working with some big, big

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Speaker 1: publications that are gonna be writing and talking about us

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Speaker 1: as well, and possibly some collaborations with some unbelievable people

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Speaker 1: that I can't really talk about just yet. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Future Rights were very excited. Uh. We think two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty one is going to be an incredible year.

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Speaker 1: And right now we're getting ready for to four for holidays,

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Speaker 1: Christmas and um and I have a feeling that this

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Speaker 1: Christmas done very different than one last year. Awesome. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: Hey Vivian, Uh, uh, you know, I'm just a marketer.

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Speaker 1: I don't I want to post your story on my

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Speaker 1: social media. I want to post your story Uh, in

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Speaker 1: mya newsletter that goes out twice a month, and uh,

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02:07:57,560 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stand put a big den in your

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02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 1: you would sell. But I think it's all about branding.

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Speaker 1: It's all about people letting people know about your story.

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02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 1: And if you don't mind money making conversation, tell your

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Speaker 1: story to my my my fan base, because I welcome

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02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 1: your personal who you are and I want to continue

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02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: to be a fan. A fan because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're doing more than just luxury jewy lines. You're recycling.

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Speaker 1: You're concerned about the health of our young people, about

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Speaker 1: the future of our environment, and that needs to be

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Speaker 1: be excited. And also, community involvement is about empowering women,

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02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: is about empowering people who are less, who don't have voices,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, serving part of your success to people

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Speaker 1: who need it financially. Applause. I love it, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you you. I would love that. And yes, I

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Speaker 1: think that if we all put our heads together and

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Speaker 1: work together to make the world a better place, so

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Speaker 1: we can do it. You know, one person at a time,

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Speaker 1: one hands together, you know, two hands together at the time,

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Speaker 1: and we can really uh make a difference. But we

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Speaker 1: have to go ahead and do it right. We will

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Speaker 1: be we will be there. I'm a friend. Please give

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Speaker 1: me some banners. My newsletter goes on Wednesday. Get some

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Speaker 1: banners to me and uh so I can put it

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Speaker 1: in there and uh put on on social media. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for taking the time. I know it's I know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna through some great times these these days here,

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Speaker 1: and I want to thank you for blessing me with

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Speaker 1: this interview. And I'm a fan Vivian, I'm a fan girl,

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Speaker 1: I'm a faid. Thank you so much for having me

2278
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 1: at any time. You know I'm here. I'm here for you.

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02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me in your show. And I'm

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Speaker 1: blast you being able to be here with me today.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Okay, more importantly, my promoting promotion will

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Speaker 1: starts on Wednesday for a video. Okay, look, okay, bye bye,

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Speaker 1: Thank you say bye. If you hear my Making Conversation interviews,

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Speaker 1: please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm wis

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonnell. I'm your host. Thank you, Bo