1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: The following is the production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Dorset, De Montree More and new He scrugs. 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, the Players Lounges. Welcome back. 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: We in the house. 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: The Players Lounges brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming. And 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: you know it's just the player the place the players 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 4: come to play. I'm in here today with my man, 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: Demontre Moore, Yeah yeah, de Montra More that texas A 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: and m Aggie what Yeah, I like it and we 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: got yeah, man, I went to Florida and so so 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: you know, and now Anthony Dorr said, Junior, I went 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: to the University of Pittsburgh. And the reason we're talking 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: about these college is not just because we went there, 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: but it's March Madness time right now. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: It's marsh Madden. No that means yeah, what that means? 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: Hey? We we made it to the dance. Okay, okay, 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 5: did y'all make it to the dance? 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 6: Nah? 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: We in the n I t not in the tournament. 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 6: Dance right outside the oside the dope buy tickets. Yeah, 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 6: it's going down. 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: Hey man, But this is one of the most like 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: basket colls basketball has one of the best tournaments out there, 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: you know, in any sport. Okay, start off with it. 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: What is it, sixty four teams or something like that. 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 6: You got to play in s forts playing teams? Yeah, 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 6: with your players like I've seen. Ut didn't they win 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 6: the thing to get the players? 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Miami of Ohio. I think they went undefeated? 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 7: Yes, right, wow? 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: What was it the first one? No, they won they 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: I think I knocked out in the second round of 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: It was either first or second round of the tournament. 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: Somebody messed up their perfect season. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: Okay, well maybe their tournament. But they went through the season. 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: But season, yeah, understated. 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 7: They've only lost one game. 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: Yes, did it go, but they didn't make it last night. 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: They did make it in last We didn't make it. 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: They didn't make it in last night. Now, yeah for sure. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: And like you just said, did anybody else school make it? Unfortunately? 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: Minded minded? 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 6: I mean it's been wow since Floyd and them had 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 6: a play in situation. 49 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 50 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 7: Hello, I don't know, Yeah, a hundred years the Beardy school. 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: Make it Toledo. You know, I don't. 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: I don't know think they. 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: I don't think. 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: So what new he school? I mean, which? 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: Which? Which school? 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: He? 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: Sorry? Yeah, I was doing it last week. I'm getting 58 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 5: them all the way in San Diego out here. Did 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 5: you fill out a bracket? Anybody fell out a bracket? 60 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: No? 61 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 7: I didn't. I did, sir? 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: You ever filled out a bracket? I do, I normally do. 63 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 5: This was the first year that I did not. I 64 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: feel some type of way about it. 65 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: But going to get it. 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: That's why I said I might do it today. 67 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: I've tried to fill out brackets before. I've never come 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: close to win. 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: My last two years has been pretty been pretty piss poor. 70 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. 71 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: I mean like it's always going to be somebody in there. 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: Let it call it a Cinderella story or whatever it's 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: going to be. But like in the first few days, 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: it's always the number one seed somewhere. It's gonna get 75 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: knocked out of it. It's gonna trap everybody's bracket before 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 4: it even gets started for real, you know what I mean. So, 77 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: but needless to say, man, congratulations to all those young 78 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: men out there can continue to play in there and 79 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: follow their dreams and everything else like that. Now mm hmm, 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: there's been a lot of movement going on that free 81 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: agency started. 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: We'll talk about it, you know what I mean? 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: And so it all over the league. 84 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: It's been movement, but like right here in this building, 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: you know, we touched on it a few weeks ago, 86 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: and we're actually starting to see the transition that is 87 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: going on as far as with players, new coaches coming 88 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: in and just the I guess you could say the 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: influx of a whole new What do we like to. 90 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: Say, Is it going to be a new. 91 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: Just a rebuild you want to talk about? 92 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 6: It's a rebuild for me, young man, because I'm serious. 93 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 6: Who do you know besides Quinny? And on defense? I mean, 94 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 6: everybody either injured are they brand new? Think about it. 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 6: Our corner, the one corner we had, he injured, right 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 6: Damarrow Overshowing, the linebacker he injured. But now everybody else 97 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 6: who were talking about Quinny is the only one him 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 6: and there the other big kid that's playing going to 99 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 6: be playing to tackle. 100 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 7: Everybody else are either. 101 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 6: A new position, a new player free agency, are either traded. 102 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 6: This thing is new defensive wise, that's half your team. 103 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 6: If you get half your team I think you have. 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 6: This is considered to me now it's a rebuild. Can't 105 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 6: be a reset. How you reset off of seven and nine? 106 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 6: You can't reset, you rebuild it. 107 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: So let me ask you this, with this rebuild phase 108 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 4: that you're talking about, you are you looking at it 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: as far as the season being the same or as 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: last year? 111 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: Are they going to be middle of the road? 112 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 8: Is going? 113 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, look at it. Maybe one or two games better. 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe because everybody in the division has gotten better, everybody, 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 6: be it changing a coach, be it getting a better 116 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 6: player at a position, a young guy growing, like New 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 6: York quarterback is growing. 118 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 5: You think Philly got better? 119 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 6: Brother, regardless of what I ever think about Philly, they 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 6: talent make them number one. 121 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 7: This talent alone. 122 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 6: Now, if they can find a offensive coordinator that can 123 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 6: mess with the quarterback, they back there. 124 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 7: They back there. 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 5: Bro. I mean, but you can easily say just to 126 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: play Devil's advocate like sir, you can say that about 127 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 5: the Cowboys. I mean you when you say rebuild, I 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 5: mean I would like to say reset. You had a 129 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: number one offense point in time when everybody was healthy. 130 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 5: You still have all your return and started coming back. 131 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: You got GP locked in right now. So like with 132 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 5: all your firepower over there, you got an up and 133 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 5: coming defensive coordinator that this is the first time that 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: we've seen like this, this switch up this dynamic right now. 135 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: So for this if there is any time to say 136 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 5: have the hopium, because they're staying it in the commons. 137 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: That big natives came in here and said pretty much, 138 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 5: you know, forget all the hopium that's there, but this 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 5: is the time to have it right now. You have 140 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 5: a lot of young guys. You do have the big 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 5: focal pieces that came back and changed the defense around 142 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 5: in Kenny Clark and big quh that's gonna be there. 143 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah Overrashan's he's he's hurt. Bland is hurt. But you 144 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: brought in the safety from a Z. I'm all right, Tom. 145 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 5: You got Jalen Thomas coming in right there, something like 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 5: a big dog like that is a leader and youth 147 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 5: on your side right there, and a guy like CP 148 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 5: you know, shout out to my new my frat brother 149 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: that is a leader of men and that has been 150 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 5: developing these dbs. Like I would say, this is reset. 151 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: It's not rebuilding, like rebuilding is if you gotta go 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 5: both sides from the office. 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 6: And be brother, have you and for all those reasons 154 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 6: you just gave for the reset, that is a rebuild 155 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 6: for all the think about it, for all those reasons. 156 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 6: The overshown injured, Yeah, it is a rocal injured, revel injured, 157 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 6: dran Bland injured healthy, Trust me, trust me, trust trust me. 158 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 7: What what I'm trying to say? Fellas? Do we have 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 7: a new defensive coordinator? 160 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, and his name is coach Christian Christian Okay, yeah, 161 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 6: he's he's saying he's putting in a new system. 162 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: Three four. 163 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 6: We have multiple nobody here that is played under this 164 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 6: guy's system. You said he was new. I didn't say 165 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 6: it was new. I mean you said he's up and coming. 166 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 6: That's what you said. He's up and coming. For all 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 6: those reasons. Half of your team is brand new. We 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 6: have not played together as an offensive line more than 169 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: six games. Everybody I'm talking about everybody in place, playing 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: new system, new coach, a bunch of new players. In 171 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 6: today's NFL, this is a rebuild, young man, I can 172 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 6: say it's a rebuilding. 173 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: Yes. Also with that being said, you know, as I know, 174 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 5: once you become a certain vet like, it's no longer 175 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 5: learning the scheme, it's just more to learning the terminology. 176 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: And some of these players that you have coming in. 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: Julian Thomas, he played in the three four scheme. Kenny Clark, 178 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: guess what him and Rashan Gary reunited. They were they 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: predominantly played in three four of their old degree. So 180 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: when you say, do you have the foundations that A 181 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: D you and you and new he talk about it 182 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: all the time, like giving the carpenter his tools. Well, 183 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: right now they're giving them the tools. They're starting to 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: do it. And not to mention, you still have a 185 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: lot to build off in this draft right now. So 186 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: when you say. 187 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 9: Rebuilding, rebuilding, he said, you said rebuild, build build you 188 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 9: can you brother bron One built all day. 189 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 7: Things that you're stating is a great to my defense. 190 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: Rest so defense, So this is so this is my 191 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: comeback to that, right. So my first year in Oakland, 192 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: not in Las Vegas Raiders, we had six new guys 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: on that defense. All right, Raiders hadn't been to the 194 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 4: playoffs since sometime in the nineties. Everything else like that, 195 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 4: And they also brought in rich Gannon as well. You know, 196 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: some changes on our too, But what we were able 197 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: to do because we had some vets and guys who 198 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: were able to be versatile. You know, even with six 199 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: guys on that on that defense for the first time 200 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: playing together, we still made it to the championship game 201 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 4: that year. 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right, So I'm sure. 203 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,119 Speaker 4: A lot of people look at it as the rebuild 204 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: or whatever the case we need said, a reset, But 205 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: at the same time, if you have vets in who 206 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: are familiar with it or can can actually be versatile 207 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: enough to play in different situations, just like Trey said, 208 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: from that standpoint, it's about getting familiar with people and 209 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: understanding the terminology and figuring out how everybody's going to 210 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: work in the system now here, Like like we talked about, 211 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: you know, you named all those guys, okay, and with 212 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 4: the injuries and everything else like that, there's nothing different 213 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: than the Cowboys have actually been doing over the past 214 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: few years. 215 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: From what I see. 216 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 4: You had Dak Hurd a few years ago, coming back 217 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 4: last year. You had DB's hurt as well. Rebel was 218 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: coming off of injury last year because he had missed 219 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: that he got hurt in college. Bland was coming off 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: injury trying to get right last year too as well, 221 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So when we look at 222 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: it structurally, these guys are pretty much some of the 223 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: guys are pretty much in the same position. 224 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: Now when you bring in a new guy. 225 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: And a new pieces like Thomas the safety from Arizona, 226 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: we got the young another young safety lock from I 227 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: think he went to ut as well, right right, okay, 228 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: And now we got your boy or front the guy 229 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: Gary Okay. Now, these guys have made plays in their 230 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: former places and made solid plays, been major contributors, you know, 231 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: and it doesn't take anything away from them coming here, 232 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 4: like them coming here learning a new system or being 233 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: part of a new system is not going to take 234 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: away from their athletic ability or they're just them being 235 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: football players in all. So with that being said, I'm 236 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: actually I can see where you're going with it, you 237 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 238 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: And I think that when people here rebuild or reset. 239 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: They automatically think, oh, man, like it's going to take 240 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: a while for that to come around, you know what 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean. But you know, like I know, it could 242 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: be along, it could take a little bit longer. But 243 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: then at the same time, this is something that depending 244 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: on how the coach is a coaching how the communication 245 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: is going in those rooms as well, and the accountability 246 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: of those guys to actually get better. 247 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: Man, it could reset like this if it has to. 248 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: Like Jake Bruden x eighty six said in the comments, 249 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm not gonna retrack my statement, but I 250 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: do agree with him. It's a soft rebuild. It's not 251 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 5: a rebuild. But I can say I can agree to 252 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 5: say soft rebuild. We can implement a new defensive coordinator, 253 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: all these new pieces, but my sentiments are still like 254 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: yours when you have a vet and good vets. And 255 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 5: I know Rashaun Garry. I've trained with him multiple times 256 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: through the offseason throughout his career. Got to see him 257 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 5: grow up from a pup to a big dog. Him 258 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: and BT Jordan the way that they break down, like oh, 259 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: by the way, if you don't know, they're gonna have 260 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 5: the pass rush retreat over here across the street, and 261 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 5: you bring the top pass rushers around the whole league. 262 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 5: We're not even just talking about in the league. We're 263 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: talking about collegiate at high school level. Breaking this stuff 264 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: down to a science, has attention to detail. You don't 265 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 5: think that he's already in here learning the scheme. You 266 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 5: don't think BT's over there doing that. So when you 267 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: say a soft rebuild, this is the if there's any 268 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 5: time to have the hopium. What is Dallas needed for 269 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: a long long time? Pass rush has been a big dimshansis. 270 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: Now that you have arguably one of the best pass 271 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: rushers in the offseason he went up there with Denver. 272 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 5: They broke the pass rushing or sack record for franchise history. 273 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: When you have that coming in there and this being 274 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: your weak point, this is the time that you say, 275 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 5: as a Cowboys fan, I'm excited. I want to see 276 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 5: how these young guys are going to develop over Shan 277 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: when healthy they're coming out. He has had a lot 278 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 5: of hype and so ken Dallas produced and developed their 279 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: in house talent. And if they can do with these 280 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 5: guys that have been developer BT Jordan being a developer 281 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 5: pass rushers, Christian Parker being a developer of the secondary, well, 282 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: guess what those are the two biggest areas of concern. 283 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 5: So that soft rebuild be happy about, because there's some rebuilds. 284 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: When you think about the Browns organization, they selected them, 285 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 5: but you say, man, it's a rebuild. This is gonna 286 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: be a couple of years, this one that could potentially 287 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 5: take off because, as Bear would say, if he was 288 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 5: here right now before, we trust when he's healthy, we 289 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 5: can go see anything. Well, now that you got these developers, 290 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 5: I'm excited, you know. 291 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: And and that being said, you know, like we kept 292 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: talking about last year, Cowboys, if they would just get 293 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: to the middle of the pack on defense, they don't 294 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: need to be in the top ten, they don't need 295 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: to be top five, you know, just let's let's just 296 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: get to the middle of the pack. And I think 297 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: that honestly, like from what I'm seeing, from what I'm hearing, 298 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: and I know just the guys that any anytime you 299 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: see any of the guys that they're bringing in, they 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: excited about being in the building first and foremost. 301 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm ready to be here. I want to be 302 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: a Cowboy. I'm ready to get to work. 303 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: And I think that these guys are already taking on 304 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: the responsibility and accountability of trying to change the culture 305 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: in this building, you know. 306 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: Mean, and that's one of the things that we always 307 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: talked about last year. 308 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: We always talked about the culture and different things being 309 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: established in here and also, and we're gonna touch on 310 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: this after break, because we're gonna take a break in 311 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: the second you brought up Gary, I want you to 312 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: talk about him a little bit. 313 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: But we've addressed certain areas. 314 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: We've addressed that D line, we've addressed some of the 315 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: past rush, we've addressed some of the secondary. We have 316 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: not got that middle backer yet, all right, And now, 317 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's something that you feel like, 318 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: And we'll talk about this after the break, but I 319 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: don't know if that's something you guys feel like that's 320 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: gonna be done in the draft, because right now, like 321 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: we're at that the middle of the second phase of 322 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: free agency. 323 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: You know, all the big names are already gone. 324 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: There's gonna be that push right before the draft, and 325 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: it'll be some movement after the draft too as well. 326 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: You know. 327 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: But how the Cowboys gonna address that? And will that 328 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: be a young guy that they figure, Hey, like you 329 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: just said, we're gonna mature him in house, we're gonna 330 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: raise him up in here, or is it gonna be 331 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: a name that they can go out there and get 332 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: that is gonna bring some accountability and respect to the 333 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: position as soon as they as soon as they get 334 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: in here. 335 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: Let's take this break. 336 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: Stay tuned. We'll be right back. 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We have to have the players 402 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 6: that can adjust mentally. I'm talking about your intelligence level 403 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 6: to make adjustments, because our defense last year could not 404 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 6: make adjustments on it. 405 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 7: So we need that type of player. 406 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: So these guys that we brought in, I hope they 407 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: are that type of guys, veteran guys like you said, Demontree, 408 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 6: it's the terminology. Last year, evident of the day, they 409 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: couldn't get the terminology because they stayed in disarray. 410 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 7: Okay. The second thing fellas we as former players know. 411 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 6: This, will these dudes when they put on the pads practice, 412 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 6: come together unity. 413 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: People don't. 414 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 6: People underestimate team chemistry, and that is what I've been 415 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 6: preaching for the last twenty years, Missus Jones. 416 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 7: Players have to practice. 417 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: They have to know. I have to know where Demantre 418 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 6: is gonna be. I have to know when I'm blitzing 419 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 6: up the middle that my man gonna be back deep 420 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 6: in that whole, and I know he's gonna be there competing. 421 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 6: That don't means might not gonna catch a past. That 422 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 6: don't mean that the quarterback ain't gonna complete something. But 423 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 6: I'm hey, he was there. The guy just came up 424 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 6: with the play. We didn't have enough of that. Guys competing, 425 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 6: guys are practicing guys understanding where to be, you know. 426 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 7: And so that I believe that, Brothers. 427 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 5: I'm and to piggyback off what you said. I I 428 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: agree wholeheartedly with that. And the one thing that I 429 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 5: could say to answer your question is and that's gonna 430 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: give you hope. RG my dog, Rashan Gary. Yeah, that 431 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 5: man is about to compete. Man. Like I can tell 432 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 5: you it was only two years ago that I was 433 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 5: out there with him. He said, I don't care how 434 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 5: old you are, I don't care how young you are. 435 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 5: Line it up and it was like yo, it was 436 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 5: that compete. We bark on each other every offseason when 437 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: you see him work out. Cowboys fan, if you want 438 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: to get hyped, if you want to have some opium, 439 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 5: go to Rashaun Gary's page, go to BT Jordan page, 440 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 5: and you will see the way that that man trains 441 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: during the offseason. When he lines up, he's barking on 442 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 5: you like he's going to bring that tenacity. And so 443 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 5: for him to come in and be a competitor, I 444 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 5: think he's going to challenge this offensive line. I think 445 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 5: it's going to go back and forth. Kenny Clark has 446 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: already set the tone when he came in here and 447 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: said that I'm that alpha male and I'm working so 448 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 5: to have those two guys, having BT Jordan back there 449 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: like he's a competitive guy. Hey, let's line this up. 450 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: If it's something as simple as get off drills, who 451 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 5: has the smoothest feet. RG is going to bring that there, 452 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: and so if everybody can galvanize behind him, I promise 453 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: you that you're going to have that competitive factor. You're 454 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: going to have Like thin think of d Law when 455 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 5: we still hear d Lau talking and really barking on 456 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: people and stuff like that, but going every single play 457 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: like I, as long as I know RG, he does 458 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: not take one rep off when it comes to competing. 459 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: So that's what you should be excited. 460 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: So when we talk about past and we talk about 461 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: the defense scoring to a three four, and we talk 462 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 4: about also changing up, I guess you could say the 463 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: players in that three four because you're going to have 464 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: to have bigger guys. All right, He's already fitting that 465 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: mode of that outside longbacker, right, he's what six five seventy. 466 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 5: To seventy doing it rolling and and what another thing 467 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: as former players that we you know how it is 468 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 5: as a competitor. You you talk about adjusting on the fly. 469 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: For a while, he was the face of that defense. 470 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 5: You had Michael Parsons that came in and we didn't 471 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: hear too much negativity coming out there RG being disgrunt 472 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: older doing this that he adjusted on the fly. Well, 473 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 5: him being a competitor, you don't think that he said, oh, well, 474 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 5: guess what, Mike is at my spot over there, and 475 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 5: that now I'm at Dallas, and let me show you 476 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: how to really take this over. Let me show you 477 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 5: how to come in there with that swagger. So that 478 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 5: chip on his shoulder like Kenny had is, is about 479 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: to be. It's about to be a chef kiss and 480 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 5: I as long as he's healthy, I'm excited. 481 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: So let me ask you a little bit about about 482 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: RG down now when we talk about pass rushers. 483 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: Is he a dimensional guys? 484 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 4: Does he have that bag? Does he have several past moves? 485 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: Is he just gonna be a speed Guy's your bull 486 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: rush guy? 487 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: Like? 488 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: How do you see him and what does he bring 489 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: to that? 490 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 5: He brings uh speed to power, speed, to power and relentness. 491 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: Of relentlessness, that is his three components. When he for 492 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: him to be so big, he can get up off 493 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: the edge, he can go and he can do that 494 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: his bull's he's explosive, he's aggressive, that's how he plays. 495 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: And then he just has a motor on him right now. 496 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 5: So when you talk about just not giving up. Past 497 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 5: rushing is cool. You got guys that have their their niches. 498 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 5: But the most sacks come is off that second effort. 499 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: It's not the first guy that's gonna win. It is 500 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 5: somebody getting the pressure, but somebody that's being relentless and 501 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: chasing them down. And that's gonna be his X factor. 502 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: So speed to power is gonna be from him, and 503 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 5: then you're gonna have him chasing stuff down. You need 504 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 5: to get finesse on the other side. And he's that 505 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 5: still in the young age at twenty eight. 506 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: Man, he's still hit and that was gonna be my 507 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: next thing. Okay, because we're talking about the past rush. 508 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: But of course you know they run the ball too, 509 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: So at the point of attack on the run, is 510 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 4: he going to be that guy that's going to chase 511 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: the ball down to it? 512 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: And is he that type of player. 513 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 5: In my opinion. Honestly, I think he plays the run 514 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 5: better than he does the pass rush. Like people talk 515 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: about him being a pass rush guy working with BT 516 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 5: Jordan and doing those things, like, yes, he's successful, but 517 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 5: I think he's more of a TfL guy getting back 518 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: there causing that disruption to where he's chasing the ball 519 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 5: down and stopping everything at the line of scrimmish. But 520 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: that's just me and what I think when I watch 521 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 5: him as an outside linebacker, like he's going over there, 522 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 5: making contact and shedding the play. He's been more successful 523 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 5: on the run and he's more he's more of that 524 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: guy versus the pass rush dominant guy that you think of. 525 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: Right now, Nate, we touched on your offense and we 526 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: know how how powered the offense was last year, you know, 527 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: but are there any places that you see on this 528 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: offense right now, whether it be at any position, whether 529 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 4: it be the old line. Okay, and we're talking about 530 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: now we got the running back signed again, right but like, 531 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 4: where's the depth at and do you see any places 532 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: you know on this offense where there might be a 533 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: hole here or there that they still need to fill? 534 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 9: Uh? 535 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: You know, I hate to keep coming to this, but 536 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 6: I'm true to the game. When it comes to offensive 537 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 6: linea I left tackle Tyler Guiden has to come through 538 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 6: a training camp. Number one, he has to conqueror a 539 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: training camp. Number two, he has to play more than 540 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 6: six games in a row. 541 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 7: It's funny, man, brother, Yeah, but. 542 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 6: You you have to be He has to be dedicated 543 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 6: this offseason to his body of taking care of his body, 544 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 6: whatever it may be, restructuring his body, building strength, flexibility, 545 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 6: whatever it may take. Because we have to know Dak 546 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 6: had a great year, but Dak in his thirties ain't 547 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 6: too many more great years. He along with them two 548 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 6: wide receivers in that good running back. 549 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 7: They kind of told it. 550 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 6: The team, our offensive line did not toe the team 551 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 6: who well missmash for guys, nobody. They never played six 552 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 6: games together, never has one unit the start and five 553 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 6: that they started in training camp. 554 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: They gonna have to fix that left tackle. 555 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: And then the reason I say that because if you 556 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: fix the left tackle now we can help the right. 557 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 6: We don't have Grade A tackles. We have C plus 558 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: some games a B. You can't play in this league 559 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 6: like that, and you got these great weapons. We don't 560 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 6: know where George at in his situation, but we got 561 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 6: these great weapons. We got a running back that's ready 562 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 6: to come downhill. Everybody else is said, we got TJ. 563 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 6: Bass on the on the tender, a second year tenders. 564 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 6: Somebody may try to snatch them up, but you know, 565 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: we'll see. So that is what we need. We can't 566 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 6: think about depth until we are solid at that left tackle. 567 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: Can I can I ask you this? Or we got 568 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 5: we got a great od in the Hall of Fame 569 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: mar here, So would you say that they are one 570 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 5: player away on this office line? If there's one big 571 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 5: signing or one good draft pick like a Tyler Booker, 572 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 5: it's this tackle. If you if you get one of 573 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 5: those tackles field, do you think that would solidify and 574 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: have this old line? Because growing up, I'm a Dallas kid. 575 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 5: Oh Cliff baby, you know when the offense was really 576 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: good is when you had that great wall right there 577 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: like it's always been. When Dallas is awful that you 578 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 5: got to see it. I saw that. That's what the 579 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 5: thing to More to your question, sir, is. 580 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 6: I tell people you don't you don't have to go 581 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 6: out and get a lineman in the first round great 582 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 6: if you do not even the second round. But the 583 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 6: guy you get got to be a guy that's willing 584 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 6: to work. I mean, offensive linemen don't have a choice 585 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 6: when it comes to work. When I look at you 586 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 6: and I'm saying, okay, he's a tackle, the first thing 587 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 6: I want to know is you are you willing to work? 588 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 6: Because a lot of times everybody that we face, it's 589 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 6: rare as office lineman that this guy's not gonna have 590 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 6: equal a better. 591 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 7: Talent than you. I'm talking about raw talent. 592 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 6: I ain't talking about what's upper here, because that is 593 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 6: what separates office line from most guys is your ability 594 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 6: to comprehend and to be able to jest on the move. 595 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 6: I'm not talking about I'm talking about just raw athletic ability. 596 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 6: You always facing the majority of time somebody's better, So 597 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 6: you got to always be constantly thinking and working. And 598 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 6: so when I look at a guy that if you're 599 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 6: injured all the time, how are you working? I mean, 600 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 6: you can look at film, but your own task on 601 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 6: the field. That is what I'm asking from Tyler Goiden. 602 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: You gotta conquer OTAs you gotta conquer mini camp, then 603 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 6: you gotta conquer training camp, then you gotta get into 604 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 6: the season. That's big with me, Office Liman. 605 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: Do you think Tyler Garden is that guy or dude? 606 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 6: Right now he's not because he cannot get past training camp. 607 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: Do you think he has the potential to get asked? 608 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: The potential? 609 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 5: Okay, yes, yes, that's all I want to know. We 610 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: all been on the roster where we've seen those guys 611 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 5: where we're like, man, I can't get right just if 612 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: he just does do this or do that. That's really 613 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: like you said, the mental part is the small difference 614 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: in a starter and somebody that's out of the league 615 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: in the year to you, like, he just couldn't get 616 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 5: out of his own way. 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Like just from our perspective, now, 705 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 4: we went out and got Gary, you got you got 706 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: some pass rush, you got the outside guy, you got 707 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: somebody who can set the ads to as well, like 708 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: you said, he's great against the run. Also, now we 709 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: have to look at the inside backer position, and that 710 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: is something that definitely needs to be addressed soon because 711 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: we know as players, you know, especially on the defense 712 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 4: side of the ball, your your middle backer and your 713 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: free safety typically your quarterbacks and of your defense. 714 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: All right. 715 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: And so with that being said, like as I structurally 716 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 4: look at the Cowboys and then in the transition and 717 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 4: the reset that they're going through, I don't see that 718 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 4: position being the young guy I honestly see that see 719 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 4: that position, and from my perspective as a player who's 720 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 4: actually been in the league, who could come in and 721 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: command that respect in that huddle immediately. And when you 722 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: got guys in there like Kenny Clark Quinnen already and 723 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: guys like that who are playing at this high level, 724 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: they want to look at a dog in the huddle 725 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: with them as well and know, okay, like he, we 726 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: all on the same page. So when you guys look 727 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: at that, is there is there a player that you 728 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 4: think that is still out there available at that position 729 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: or is it just going to be that the Cowboys 730 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 4: are going to take one of those first round picks 731 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: and try to fulfill that position and try to get 732 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 4: somebody in the house and keep them in the house 733 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 4: for years. 734 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 6: You said earlier that we're in the second phase of 735 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 6: the free agency. If it's still someone out there, I 736 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 6: would like, Like I told you guys off matter, I 737 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 6: would like to see. I wish you could have got 738 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 6: su twenty eight, twenty nine, maybe even thirty, who's a 739 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 6: veteran guy that can get guys lined up but still 740 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 6: have enough juice to be in the proper place to 741 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 6: make the plays. 742 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 7: I want a veteran guy. 743 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 6: Belichick used to always say, you know, let them draft 744 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 6: them and we'll sign them to a free agent contract, 745 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 6: because by that time they got they got the mental 746 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 6: capabilities to understand what the league is about. So I 747 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 6: would like a veteran guy that can get there, not 748 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 6: a veteran guy that you know, can point that. 749 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 7: We can't you know, you know, line you up, but 750 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 7: he can't get there. 751 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 6: We need a guy that can get there, make a 752 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 6: few plays, and now you can go out and get 753 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 6: that young guy if you choose to. But but you're 754 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 6: acting a lot. You're acting a lot me. 755 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: I don't think you have to. I don't think you 756 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 5: necessarily have to just go get a veteran guy. Would 757 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 5: it be nice, Yeah, but most of the veteran guys 758 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 5: that are middle linebackers and doing the job though they've 759 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 5: been signed already. Yes, when it comes to something like 760 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 5: this and been in the three fourth system, it gives 761 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 5: you the flexibility of not just depending on one linebacker, 762 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 5: you depend on all your linebackers. Like when I think 763 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 5: about those great schemes, like my time back in Seattle, 764 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 5: when I played there, you had guys like Bobby Wagner 765 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 5: that made the call. But mind you, Bobby Wagner was 766 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 5: a young guy that came in there doing the thing. 767 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 5: But you had guys like Mikey mo kJ Williams. So 768 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 5: you have some veteranship that went at the outside linebacker 769 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 5: position to where everybody was kind of learning off each 770 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: other and was able to grow. Now, I think where 771 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: the flexibility comes in at to where there's not such 772 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 5: a big demand on getting a older linebacker. Is you 773 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 5: got a guy like Rashan Gary that has been in 774 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 5: the league, that has played years in the three fourth system. 775 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 5: You have a veteran like Kenny Clark that's the big 776 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 5: dog back there. You got Dron Bland that is a 777 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 5: proven Pro bowler back there that's trying to coach up 778 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 5: these young guys. So now with this young guy, honestly, 779 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: give me a young guy. Give me a guy like 780 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 5: you said Rodriguez that's coming out of Texas to give me. 781 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 5: I believe I've seen law Nation who reports on the Cowboys. 782 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 5: He was watching AJ. The kid's name AJ, that was 783 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 5: a linebacker. He's a little stiff in the hips. 784 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 7: But give me, no, he can't he said, he cannot play. 785 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 5: I can't I'm not saying him he's hot, he's hype 786 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 5: right now. But I'm saying, give me a young guy 787 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 5: and let him go out there and hunt. And I 788 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 5: got a lot of vets around him that can help 789 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 5: him go and say, hey, young boy, you got the 790 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 5: potential right here, let me coach you. Because I've been 791 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 5: around these guys right there, like, Okay, I won't say. 792 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 7: You can't say to me. 793 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 6: When you say stiff in the hips, you are fired 794 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 6: with me, you are fired. 795 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 7: Football players cannot. 796 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 5: Have what stiff it is. But I've seen some guys 797 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 5: be stiff. 798 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: I was. 799 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 5: I was a stiff guy that could be in like 800 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 5: there's certain levels that they might look stiff. And we've 801 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 5: seen some guys that are stiff in drills. But when 802 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 5: you go out there and you be like, bro, he 803 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 5: is he's a doll, he's a he's a baller. He 804 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 5: doesn't look the part, or he doesn't have the measurables, 805 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 5: but there's something you can coach. I think about the 806 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 5: guy from Miami. He got short arms, but what does 807 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 5: everybody want a long range? You guy, man, I will 808 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 5: put Ruben Foster at this outside line game and we hunting. 809 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 5: He reminds me of Elvis Duomerville. Don't have the longs. 810 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 5: But when I say that, he can go hunt and 811 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 5: he's been a technician. Oh by the way, he was 812 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 5: coached up by Jason Taylor, who's a Hall of Famer 813 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 5: that has taught him. When Big Og Newton just say 814 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 5: that mental capability, you don't think that he's coming out 815 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 5: there with that type of capability. So that's why I say, 816 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: go get a young guy right now. 817 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 4: And I think that another thing that helps the Cowboys 818 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 4: out is being getting players that are versatile players as well. 819 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 4: All right, now, we haven't talked about the safety as much, 820 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 4: but that Thompson kid, Toms kid they got from Arizona. Man, Listen, 821 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 4: I've been able to have the chance to watch him. 822 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 4: All right, this dude can play safety. 823 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 824 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 4: He could play the free Okay, he can play the strong. 825 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 4: He can slide down into the slide and even play nickel. 826 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 5: All right. 827 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 4: He can help out with the brush because he blitzes 828 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 4: has several sacks last year. 829 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: And he's rangy, you know what I mean. And so 830 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 3: what he's able to. 831 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: Show, Like we had a situation last year in the 832 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 4: secondary where like you didn't see a lot of communication. 833 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: You didn't see a lot of versatility amongst those players. 834 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 4: You know, you got you got two safeties in here now. 835 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 4: And not to take anything away from Locke and not 836 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 4: speaking about him, but he's the same way too as well. 837 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 4: May players can play in the box, can play up high, 838 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 4: you know, and and anything else like that. And then 839 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 4: when we talk about the range of a safety, it's 840 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 4: not just being able to get from the middle of 841 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 4: the field to sideline the sideline, No, you actually got 842 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: to come downhill sometimes too as well and meet that 843 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: ball that the line of scrimmage or in the backfield 844 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: if you can. 845 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: So having these players and trying to drive players. 846 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 4: Like you're talking about, like the Rodriguez kid if he's 847 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 4: available or say it inside back or that is versatile 848 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 4: enough and can play that game like that, and if 849 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 4: he's a young guy. What you said was was was 850 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 4: totally correct, And it's the same way I see it 851 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 4: as well, when you have that vet, those vets around 852 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: him at every level D line, you know what I'm 853 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 4: saying secondary as well. Yeah, so like that will help 854 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 4: with a young inside backer if that's the way they 855 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 4: choose to go with the drift with it right. 856 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 7: The thing is, my friend. 857 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 6: But what I'm looking for now today's NFL is you 858 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 6: got to have some cover skills and you definitely have 859 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 6: to have the ability to tackle in open field because 860 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 6: there's so much situation of football. It's third and five, 861 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 6: you got to tackle him when it's at four yards, 862 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 6: you got to bring him down. Are your skills like that? 863 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 6: Can you bring this guy down? Can you cover this 864 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 6: guy coming out of the backfield? Because every time we 865 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 6: got punished last year at our lineback it's somebody open field, 866 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 6: whether he got the ball open field or whether they 867 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 6: catching the ball. So well, that's where other teams had 868 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 6: better linebackers than us. And so that's why I'm saying 869 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 6: I need that veteran guy. But he's got to be 870 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 6: able to run. 871 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 5: So you don't think Dylan is that guy because I 872 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 5: want you to. I want you to tell me why, 873 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 5: because I can tell you I feel. Let me say 874 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 5: this right now, I feel the same way. I'm not 875 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: gonna discredit him like this because I've seen stiff guys 876 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 5: out here, but it makes me nervous when I watched 877 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 5: him and he opened up his hill to go rotate. 878 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 5: When you got guys like say Kwan Barkley doing these 879 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 5: things out here and doing the way he is, like, 880 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to be able to run and open up. 881 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 5: And when I think of linebackers my tenire here, I 882 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 5: think of Sewn Lee. That was a guy that went 883 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 5: out there and he turned to open up a run. 884 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 5: You think of Jaylen Smith when he was healthy, well, 885 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 5: guess what he was long range and can do that. 886 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 5: I want to know what do you see from dying 887 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 5: When you. 888 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 6: Say no, no, I haven't checked out a whole lot 889 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 6: of guys, but I tell you like her young blood. 890 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 6: When when you tell me that a guy got stiff hills, 891 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 6: that scares me? 892 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 5: That does. 893 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 7: I was. I was a free agent, So that means 894 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 7: I had a lot of bad grades. You know what 895 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 7: I'm saying. 896 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 6: I had a lot of grades that did not check 897 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 6: the box and to give an opportunity to play. 898 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 7: So I'm that guy. You you would hear that. I'm 899 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 7: adamant about what I see, sir. 900 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 6: You know so, uh, the combine don't impress me the 901 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 6: way your film can. The combine can say, oh yeah, 902 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 6: but I saw this on film. Oh he ain't you know, 903 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 6: he's just a player. Some guys are just players. They're 904 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 6: not testing guy. So I'm with that. You know when 905 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 6: you talk about Bain, you know, you know, you know, 906 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 6: short arms, but somebody gonna get a gym. 907 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 7: So I believe this right here. I'm not gonna make no. 908 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 6: Remarks on a guy that I haven't studied in this system. 909 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 6: Once I understand what Coach Parker won't once I start 910 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 6: seeing guys play, not what they're saying. 911 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 7: Because Evil Flues was gold until we hit training camp. 912 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 7: He was gold. He was gold, bro think about it now, 913 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 7: he was gold. 914 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 6: So I want to see you play in this system 915 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 6: before I make a comment on a guy. 916 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I definitely agree. 917 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 4: So that with this Cowboys this year and it has 918 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 4: been over the past few years, is to consistently get 919 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 4: over that hump or the hurdle. You know, they found 920 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: places and they always get a place where like you 921 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 4: think it's on the endcline and then it seems to 922 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 4: just off and it's dapping back down, you know what 923 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 4: I mean. And so hopefully what we're seeing with Jerry 924 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 4: from you know, we've heard him say I'm all in before, 925 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: but like the restruction of these contracts. 926 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 3: You know the fact that. 927 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 5: He's showing, he's showing the possibility right now that he's 928 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 5: doing He's he's doing, he's going outside the box. He 929 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 5: spent he spent some money in free agency. Now I 930 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: know Cowboys fan because you know I read the comments. 931 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 5: A lot of people are upset and saying that they 932 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 5: didn't spend the money the right way. You wanted to 933 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 5: go get a trade Hendrix or these big names. But 934 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 5: you gotta think back to last year when he said, Hey, 935 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go trade or pay Michaeh do this 936 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 5: and do that, because guess what he was able to 937 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 5: bring in these key parts William Kenny Clark build around him. 938 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 5: He was able to spread out this money with this 939 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 5: free agency and bringing in a good pass rusher. There 940 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 5: has been a pro bowler. You've been able to bring 941 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 5: in the guy which I actually wanted to at least 942 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 5: me into my next question to asking you a d 943 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 5: I want you to elaborate on the Julius kid. When 944 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 5: you said that he can play three different positions safety, 945 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 5: coming in and playing outside linebacker. I think of Jamal Adams, 946 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 5: I think of Landon Collins. These guys like this, they 947 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 5: were great blitzers, they were pro bowler safeties. But do 948 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 5: you think that he's going to be like a Jamal 949 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 5: Adam or is he going to have the Jamal Adams 950 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 5: slayer of blitzing and coverage. 951 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 4: So I will say this, I think that Jamal was 952 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 4: limited as far as what he could do in the secondary. 953 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 4: He was a great tackler, he was a big body guy, 954 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: but he wasn't that well. He wasn't really a coverage guy, 955 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 4: all right. So what I'm saying from Thomas is that 956 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 4: he can cover. He can actually cover, all right. He 957 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: gets down the slot, he's not afraid to get impressed. 958 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 4: He looks very comfortable, and a lot of times that's 959 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 4: where you start to get a dropping safeties in the 960 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 4: versatility of a safety. He might be a big hitter, 961 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 4: he might be rangy, but can he actually cover? And 962 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 4: that's what you always hear about safeties and he cover? No, 963 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: this dude right here can cover, and he could come 964 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 4: out the middle of the field and he can blitz. 965 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 4: So when we look at as a Cowboys structure, you 966 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 4: start to look at the draft and say, if they're 967 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 4: going to go find another dB, like you got one 968 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 4: guy in house, they kept Hooker here, all right, yeah, 969 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: and they bought lock In. So what I'm seeing that 970 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 4: possibly what they're looking at doing is if Bland is 971 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: not healthy, he can still stay outside. He doesn't have 972 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 4: to come inside. You bring Thomas down, all right, you 973 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 4: got Revel outside as well. Everybody's staying at home, being 974 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 4: in their positions, and you got a monster coming down here. 975 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 4: Now that the Cowboys have not had a safety that 976 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 4: looks as versatile as this guy in several years, all right, 977 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 4: always had big guys. And as I was breaking down 978 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 4: tape watching different safeties coming out from the draft, I 979 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 4: watched Caleb Downs. Caleb Downs was like when you think 980 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 4: about Cowboys safeties, he puts you in the mindset of 981 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 4: Darren Woodson, just the consistency and the efficiency that he had. 982 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 3: But he ain't gonna be there, all right. 983 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: So now you got to go out there and you 984 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 4: got to find somebody who is equivalent to that, you know. 985 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 4: And that's what they were able to do with Williams 986 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 4: and I'm sorry with Thomason Locke, all right. 987 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 5: Like that. Look, so that means that the pressure now 988 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 5: is on for O line and line and linebackers. From 989 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 5: what it sounds like the. 990 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: Pressure is on everybody in this building right now. Don't 991 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 4: get it twisted. They put them in the like, the 992 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 4: team has to get better, the culture has to change. 993 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 4: And from what we're seeing right now, it looks like 994 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 4: everybody's heading in the right direction, you know. And and uh, 995 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna see if y'all gonna make that 996 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 4: bet again. 997 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 5: That man, they both of them guys is on vacation now, 998 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 5: so you know they got time to think. Why one's 999 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 5: in Cabo and the other one in the and the 1000 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 5: Sunshine State Cali or whatever. 1001 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 6: So Hey, you know one thing I love about Barry 1002 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 6: what's up? He would not fail to treat himself by 1003 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 6: family to a good vacation. 1004 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 3: Boy, I love it. 1005 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 5: Man, I said, spring break makes it cool. 1006 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,959 Speaker 3: There's one commodity that we don't get back, and that's time. 1007 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 8: It. 1008 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 4: Like I tell people all the time, don't waste it 1009 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 4: and take advantage of it every time you get a 1010 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 4: chance for it. 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