1
00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:07,520
Speaker 1: The volume. Hey, this applies to ninety nine percent of

2
00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,520
Speaker 1: the world. I mean ninety nine percent of the nation,

3
00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,680
Speaker 1: not ninety eight point nine. I mean ninety nine.

4
00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,760
Speaker 2: Just like that Paternity says you took.

5
00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,600
Speaker 1: Okay, And if you the one percent, this is don't

6
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,360
Speaker 1: apply to you. But for the rest of y'all, ninety

7
00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,319
Speaker 1: nine percent. Man, tap in Boost Mobile coverage nationwide you

8
00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,560
Speaker 1: apply for this is great.

9
00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,080
Speaker 3: Tap in with boost Mobile.

10
00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,280
Speaker 1: If you switch over to Boostmobile right now, you can

11
00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,240
Speaker 1: get an iPhone fifteen with crazy camera work.

12
00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,160
Speaker 4: That is a forty eight megapistol camera for ninety nine

13
00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,520
Speaker 4: dollars and ninety nine cents.

14
00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,040
Speaker 3: That's right, ninety nine dollars and ninety nine cents on

15
00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,400
Speaker 3: a five G network.

16
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,880
Speaker 1: It's nationwide, and I'm ninety nine percent sure that Boost

17
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,840
Speaker 1: Mobile just gave us a crazy deal with this promo.

18
00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,839
Speaker 3: Now, this is crazy.

19
00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,960
Speaker 2: You are the father.

20
00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,879
Speaker 1: It does require credit qualification, ID verification and an activation

21
00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 1: on a six dollars plan. Taxes are extra and five

22
00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,200
Speaker 1: G speeds may not be available in all areas.

23
00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,000
Speaker 3: But they said it was nationwide. Just not your hood.

24
00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,480
Speaker 3: You're never good.

25
00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,680
Speaker 1: Though, Yes, sir Man, we back at it again.

26
00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:05,920
Speaker 2: Man.

27
00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,959
Speaker 1: Another episode of Club five twenty podcast. I'm the host.

28
00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,560
Speaker 1: My name is DJ Wells. Still got my brothers on

29
00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,480
Speaker 1: stage with me to my left and got my dog

30
00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,959
Speaker 1: Bi should be here out the pearles.

31
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,479
Speaker 2: How you what saying? And Nancy? What up? Fanatics?

32
00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,440
Speaker 3: What's happening fanatics?

33
00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:18,720
Speaker 2: Vest?

34
00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, to my right, my dog young Nacho,

35
00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,280
Speaker 1: young teag. How you what I'm chilling? I'll see you

36
00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,520
Speaker 1: back there, Fred, what's up? What's happening with it? For

37
00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,840
Speaker 1: shore man? Listen man? We had fanatics with it and

38
00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,080
Speaker 1: we got another wonderful guest man, long awaited guests man.

39
00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280
Speaker 1: We're very tocited about this episode. Hall of Famer. One

40
00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,959
Speaker 1: of the codis a duel we all grew up on

41
00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,399
Speaker 1: his shoes, pure Hooper man, the one that only mister

42
00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,759
Speaker 1: t mac trace, mcrady, Big.

43
00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,400
Speaker 3: Donald join us on stage. Up the long.

44
00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Hey, yes, sir Mack, make my younger get up and

45
00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,880
Speaker 1: read me man, turn my mic on in this smallfucker man.

46
00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,320
Speaker 2: What up, younger?

47
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,880
Speaker 3: What's up?

48
00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,080
Speaker 1: Bro?

49
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,280
Speaker 3: What's up?

50
00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,480
Speaker 2: Man?

51
00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,400
Speaker 3: You remember you punched me? Let's get this swing out

52
00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,000
Speaker 3: the south the way.

53
00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,359
Speaker 2: Just get it out the way right now.

54
00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,160
Speaker 5: This dude right here, he used to play so much.

55
00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,800
Speaker 5: I just want to beat his ass. I ain't too much, young, bro.

56
00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,080
Speaker 5: He just played entirely too much. Man, you're trying to

57
00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,600
Speaker 5: get back in the lead. This lea's playing around too much.

58
00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,160
Speaker 3: Say, I did play around a lot, but we had to.

59
00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,880
Speaker 4: Get your side of the story. You know what I'm saying,

60
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,400
Speaker 4: two sides of the story. So do you remember what happened?

61
00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,560
Speaker 2: Y'all? Really believe to you going that?

62
00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna tell you, I'm put it for you.

63
00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,840
Speaker 1: So I used to mess with back every day and

64
00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480
Speaker 1: he used to be like, man, shut them like shut up,

65
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,720
Speaker 1: always talking like so I used to mess with him.

66
00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,400
Speaker 1: He was the one day we was eating. I was

67
00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,079
Speaker 1: was in the thing and I was sitting back and

68
00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,120
Speaker 1: he walked up. He was like.

69
00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,600
Speaker 3: I was like, I was hot.

70
00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,920
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking nothing of it, Like, man, what the Marvin? Like,

71
00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,000
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? O? G initiate't a.

72
00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,079
Speaker 4: Young fellow's my little homie Mann.

73
00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,000
Speaker 2: Y'all doing good things up here, Bro. We've been watching y'all.

74
00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,040
Speaker 3: Man were trying to man long awaited episode.

75
00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,840
Speaker 1: Man. We're happy you could pull up Man, Like we said,

76
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,400
Speaker 1: we all big fans of you for show Man grew

77
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,040
Speaker 1: up with the sea man's man, We're gonna start first

78
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,680
Speaker 1: and foremost we all love the good feet game, and

79
00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,800
Speaker 1: you got some legendary kicks, right, So what's it like?

80
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know how you came

81
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,240
Speaker 1: into the league. But what's that moment where teammate it's

82
00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,560
Speaker 1: his first signature shoe.

83
00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,240
Speaker 5: It's like that that kid man you know ship We

84
00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,240
Speaker 5: always a kid playing on a playground and you was

85
00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,720
Speaker 5: out there with your favorite player hooping in them shoes.

86
00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,440
Speaker 2: And for me it was MJ's, it was pips.

87
00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360
Speaker 5: And then Penny came along, and that's all I wore

88
00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920
Speaker 5: when I had, you know, opportunity to get some pennies.

89
00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,360
Speaker 5: But then when I it came along with I got

90
00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,120
Speaker 5: my shoe, and then it wasn't. It wasn't to the

91
00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,840
Speaker 5: point I saw my shoe.

92
00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,080
Speaker 2: Had it in hand, award.

93
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,120
Speaker 5: But when you go out in public and you see

94
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,119
Speaker 5: kids or your fans with your shoe, that's the validation

95
00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:06,720
Speaker 5: right there.

96
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,120
Speaker 2: That's like, damn dog, I made it.

97
00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,760
Speaker 1: What's crazy is seeing somebody with your jersey, or see

98
00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,640
Speaker 1: somebody with the sneaks.

99
00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,840
Speaker 2: Song ah, the sneaks.

100
00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,280
Speaker 5: Because anybody in the NBA gonna have a jersey. Everybody

101
00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,080
Speaker 5: can have them sneaks, everybody can have it on.

102
00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,640
Speaker 4: See that black and blue colorway, crazy og color way.

103
00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,159
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is you know what I'm saying, you

104
00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,920
Speaker 1: had like eye kind of moments in your shoes, Like

105
00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the t MAC once, the

106
00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,640
Speaker 1: All Star moment off the backboard, Like yeah, when you

107
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,400
Speaker 1: see that, you just see like moments, Like when we

108
00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,240
Speaker 1: look at other people's shoes, we think of moments. So

109
00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,039
Speaker 1: for you to have your first couple of signatures are

110
00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,240
Speaker 1: like crazy moments in them. It just kind of like

111
00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,919
Speaker 1: submitted it all in. Our moms want to ask you,

112
00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,760
Speaker 1: what's your favorite shoe that you design or what's your

113
00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,679
Speaker 1: favorite TMAC shoes?

114
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:44,480
Speaker 3: Uh?

115
00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 5: For me, it's the three point five and a lot

116
00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960
Speaker 5: might not know about the three point fives. I ward

117
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,880
Speaker 5: those when I was on a USA team was a

118
00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,840
Speaker 5: qualifying team, but by three point fives. But because they

119
00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,640
Speaker 5: don't know, I'll say the t Mac threes, My threes

120
00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,719
Speaker 5: was the most the fire.

121
00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,880
Speaker 2: That we still selling to this day.

122
00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the team Act three, you know what I'm saying,

123
00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,920
Speaker 1: always got me a whooping in my household because I

124
00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,680
Speaker 1: asked my mama about two pair of shoes so I

125
00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,360
Speaker 1: can missmash them. And she was like, yeah, we ain't

126
00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960
Speaker 1: going for that most definitely.

127
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,120
Speaker 2: Man.

128
00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,760
Speaker 1: But listen, man, before we get to the episode we

129
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,599
Speaker 1: got to get for you. Man, shoutut to Tommy John

130
00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,040
Speaker 1: Johnmmy John. Yes, sir, be here. Tell the people they

131
00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,240
Speaker 1: need to do for you, sir.

132
00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,640
Speaker 4: Man, just wear them draws them draws.

133
00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, no white drawn they not.

134
00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,040
Speaker 1: Then they got the elastic fan extendo Ben pull Man

135
00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,360
Speaker 1: for today. It's how it takes the ball handling matters

136
00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,760
Speaker 1: Pauls on the court.

137
00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520
Speaker 3: But I'm talking to get draws. Keep your balls hand

138
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,039
Speaker 3: over to me.

139
00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,440
Speaker 2: A little pouch in the front.

140
00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,720
Speaker 3: Hey, yo, just to get him together right there.

141
00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,640
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Great draws is like great

142
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,760
Speaker 6: sweat pants. You shout out to Tommy John. Hey, hold up,

143
00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,840
Speaker 6: shout out to Tommy dumb bro.

144
00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:00,760
Speaker 3: Man.

145
00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,159
Speaker 1: You know we're rocking heavy with y'all. Man, but you've

146
00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 1: met going crazy recently. Man, we got to talk about

147
00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,240
Speaker 1: it instantly. You about to say it. Hey, you brought

148
00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,880
Speaker 1: up and we ain't gonna get to it in shape

149
00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 1: be messy, but you brought up Indiana paced the legend.

150
00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800
Speaker 1: Man hold it's a lesson up at the CT for

151
00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,680
Speaker 1: the Pacers. Our dog Jama intend sir. We heard the

152
00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,200
Speaker 1: back and forth conversations about Kyrie.

153
00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,599
Speaker 3: That's cool.

154
00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,479
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna get to that, but it's dope to

155
00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,800
Speaker 1: hear players, especially who is around show love that people

156
00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,640
Speaker 1: who don't get like recognition.

157
00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:27,720
Speaker 3: All the time.

158
00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,960
Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that because that was the sole

159
00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,640
Speaker 5: reason for me saying that.

160
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,719
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna trust me.

161
00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,719
Speaker 5: I know basketball, bro, and I know Kyrie is the

162
00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,200
Speaker 5: best when it comes to handles.

163
00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,480
Speaker 2: It's two of my best.

164
00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,520
Speaker 5: And I'm on record of saying this, it's Kyrie and

165
00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,120
Speaker 5: his skipped to my loop, my old teammate, then the

166
00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,760
Speaker 5: two best like for me. But yeah, when I get

167
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:55,359
Speaker 5: an opportunity to highlight somebody that's in my generation of basketball,

168
00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000
Speaker 5: my era, I'm gonna take the time to do that.

169
00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,160
Speaker 5: The thing is, people don't know my agenda when I

170
00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,520
Speaker 5: said that, so of course I expect that reaction, and

171
00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,239
Speaker 5: it's the reaction that I wanted, right because I'm highlight

172
00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,360
Speaker 5: somebody like when you look at Jamal Tinsley, bro people

173
00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,600
Speaker 5: and comparing him to Kyrie. Yeah, they gonna laugh at that,

174
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,080
Speaker 5: But you go over and really see what that motherfucker

175
00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,080
Speaker 5: did when he was a rookie. It ain't too many

176
00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 5: casts that had twenty three assists when they was a rookie.

177
00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,800
Speaker 5: So although you might laugh that he's not compared to Kyrie,

178
00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,960
Speaker 5: he's still somebody you can learn to and appreciate his game.

179
00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,840
Speaker 2: So using Kyrie was my main goal. You gotta use

180
00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,560
Speaker 2: somebody like that.

181
00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,280
Speaker 5: And then the trigger words is, yeah, he better he

182
00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,800
Speaker 5: got bad at him this right, It's it's the internet game, bro.

183
00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's all I did. So shout out to

184
00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,760
Speaker 5: Jamal Tinsley. Man, Now these young joks know who he is.

185
00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,840
Speaker 1: Like looking in the crowd and you still see people

186
00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,560
Speaker 1: with T Mac jerseys.

187
00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,120
Speaker 3: And stuff like that.

188
00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,880
Speaker 2: What is that like?

189
00:07:53,920 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 1: Because I don't never see a team, but like.

190
00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,680
Speaker 3: To see that, Like, what's that like?

191
00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,080
Speaker 2: You know what team?

192
00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:04,400
Speaker 1: Man?

193
00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,560
Speaker 5: I I it's love, bro, you know, And I don't

194
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,800
Speaker 5: take it for granted. I appreciate every time I see

195
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,640
Speaker 5: somebody with a T Mac jersey on anything T Mac.

196
00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,240
Speaker 2: You know, even twelve years.

197
00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,800
Speaker 5: After being retired, that shit still does something to me because.

198
00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

199
00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,720
Speaker 5: I appreciate their appreciation of me, and I'm always gonna

200
00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,200
Speaker 5: show love.

201
00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 2: That's the best one right there?

202
00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:28,640
Speaker 3: Which one?

203
00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,320
Speaker 2: That stripe right here to Buddy strikes was tough.

204
00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you the next one, what's your

205
00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,160
Speaker 1: favorite jersey? Because you got a lot of iconic jerseys,

206
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the Raptors, you got Orlando,

207
00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,079
Speaker 1: you got Houston. What's your favorite jersey?

208
00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 5: Me that that purple, That purple Raptors jersey is fire.

209
00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm talking about like, out of all jerseys,

210
00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,560
Speaker 5: that Purple Raptors fire the rookie year. Yeah, yeah, that's

211
00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,040
Speaker 5: the one.

212
00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the one.

213
00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,800
Speaker 3: That's that's that one.

214
00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,800
Speaker 1: Now you look at today's the NBA, right A little

215
00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,360
Speaker 1: bit of a difference between you play a little bit

216
00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,559
Speaker 1: more freedom. We've got the finals going on right now,

217
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,400
Speaker 1: Game seven. Okay, as I want to ask you if

218
00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,400
Speaker 1: you could play for either one of those teams right

219
00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,719
Speaker 1: now where you pulling up to Indiana?

220
00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Indiana, I mean I first of all, they got

221
00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,080
Speaker 5: a freaking great coach.

222
00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,040
Speaker 2: Rick Carlyle is probably.

223
00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,360
Speaker 5: One of the best basketball minds in the game right now,

224
00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,120
Speaker 5: and we're seeing that every night. But I like that cohesive.

225
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,880
Speaker 5: They don't have a superstar, so I like that cohesive.

226
00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,880
Speaker 5: I like that they do it by committee and integrate

227
00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,080
Speaker 5: somebody like me that could.

228
00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,400
Speaker 2: Get buckets consistently.

229
00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,040
Speaker 5: With what they already have great shooting, You got great

230
00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400
Speaker 5: prenurtraders and ask someone that could get buckets.

231
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,160
Speaker 2: I like my.

232
00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,280
Speaker 3: Chances most definitely. And you got both those teams.

233
00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,080
Speaker 1: Obviously, with all stars superstars, you have a lot of

234
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,199
Speaker 1: role players. Do you see the league gravitate more towards that,

235
00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,080
Speaker 1: because I know back y'all that you had the higherarchy

236
00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,599
Speaker 1: was a little bit different. You had like two or

237
00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 1: three guys took the majority of the shots. Everybody on

238
00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,160
Speaker 1: the field their roles. Now with both these teams, you

239
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,600
Speaker 1: got some off there bitch who can go shoot six

240
00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,720
Speaker 1: threes and it's all gravy.

241
00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,079
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I love it.

242
00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,040
Speaker 5: I love it because in today's game, there's a lot

243
00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,319
Speaker 5: more hoopers, you know what I mean, Not guys that

244
00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,880
Speaker 5: just do one specific thing right, one thing that's really great.

245
00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,160
Speaker 5: You got these guys, man, they could score on both

246
00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:08,960
Speaker 5: sides of the body.

247
00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,800
Speaker 2: They could do multitude of things on the basketball court

248
00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,160
Speaker 2: coming off your bench. When I you know, when I played, shit, you.

249
00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,400
Speaker 5: Had somebody that Joe can only he's only a guy

250
00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,520
Speaker 5: that could shoot in the corner.

251
00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,319
Speaker 2: That's it. Like you just stationary pieces.

252
00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,240
Speaker 5: Now you could interchange with these type of players that's

253
00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,160
Speaker 5: playing the game today.

254
00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,360
Speaker 3: I like how you said that.

255
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,440
Speaker 1: Would you think your game obviously you could score in bunches,

256
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,600
Speaker 1: you could score any kind of way. You think your

257
00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,360
Speaker 1: game would have translated better now than it did back then.

258
00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, come on, team now, I'm being really.

259
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you Avay, so you probably would have averaged forty.

260
00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,000
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be arrogant to say forty in my mind,

261
00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:46,439
Speaker 5: yet I.

262
00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,600
Speaker 2: Feel I can score forty.

263
00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,720
Speaker 3: I mean realistically, I think.

264
00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,439
Speaker 5: I Shay average thirty two this year in a wide

265
00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 5: open league, wide open game. I average thirty two when

266
00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,240
Speaker 5: that shit was tight score with seventy, he ate the eighty.

267
00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,440
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, and only shot like four

268
00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,079
Speaker 5: or five threes. Put me in today's game where I

269
00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,320
Speaker 5: can shoot ten, eight to ten threes, and I'm gonna

270
00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,360
Speaker 5: get to the free throw line.

271
00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,520
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna get to my spots.

272
00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,960
Speaker 4: That's deb near a forty piece yeage, that might.

273
00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,920
Speaker 3: Be a forty and you had that mid range.

274
00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,720
Speaker 1: I who was in Atlanta used to shoot the MIDI

275
00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,520
Speaker 1: used to like, yeah, he probably average forty.

276
00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it like thirty two back yeah you

277
00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,559
Speaker 3: probably gonna average yeah.

278
00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,760
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's an easy game, now, bro, you

279
00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,680
Speaker 5: defensively like now I They want to try to add

280
00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,040
Speaker 5: the physicality to it. But if you can't touch me

281
00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,040
Speaker 5: when I got the ball in my spot, like you

282
00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,840
Speaker 5: gotta back up and get me. Nah, I'm gonna shoot

283
00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,120
Speaker 5: right up. I ain't even gotta put the ball on

284
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,600
Speaker 5: the floor. I'm gonna shot right on your right in

285
00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,120
Speaker 5: your face.

286
00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040
Speaker 1: People don't realize how tall you are.

287
00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,360
Speaker 2: You you like sixteen?

288
00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,200
Speaker 3: No way, y'all know. They had me guard him one

289
00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,240
Speaker 3: time when he was in Detroit.

290
00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,679
Speaker 2: Did you lock it Ship up?

291
00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,880
Speaker 1: He no, he went straight to the block like just

292
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,960
Speaker 1: speaking al d Ship.

293
00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 2: Smart man, I can move. Really you didn't? You said.

294
00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,679
Speaker 3: I got out the game all quick as ship.

295
00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,199
Speaker 2: Now, who's so the game? Who y'all got? Who you

296
00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,880
Speaker 2: all got in the game?

297
00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,160
Speaker 3: Pacers? Okay, faces paces to win now?

298
00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,440
Speaker 1: But the bias answer to you from Indiana, Yes, sir,

299
00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,640
Speaker 1: I got a hard pacer.

300
00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,080
Speaker 2: Wow. Why tell me why they're gonna win? Why are

301
00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,920
Speaker 2: we gonna win? How? How?

302
00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,160
Speaker 1: How?

303
00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,560
Speaker 2: How are you gonna win. Tell me that how we're

304
00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:35,920
Speaker 2: gonna win.

305
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,560
Speaker 1: So when this drops, you know, saying, we'll already be

306
00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,440
Speaker 1: raising a banner, So give me my props. What I

307
00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,040
Speaker 1: liked in Game six and recard is the second half

308
00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,160
Speaker 1: when he went away from the full court pressure and

309
00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,040
Speaker 1: we just got to him in a half court setting.

310
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,079
Speaker 1: We doubled a lot heavier and congested the lanes. It

311
00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,240
Speaker 1: saved our role players because we need everything right. We

312
00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,120
Speaker 1: don't have the most sounded team, but we played the hardest.

313
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,360
Speaker 1: We can serve some energy, made some shots at home.

314
00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,360
Speaker 3: I feel like we can carry that over.

315
00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,520
Speaker 2: Okay, see, I feel if.

316
00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,319
Speaker 5: They do it by committee, like if the committee struggles,

317
00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,920
Speaker 5: Shiakam is gonna have to have thirty five or forty

318
00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,920
Speaker 5: points right even be in the game, and then the

319
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,760
Speaker 5: committee can add to that. But if Siakam huffles around

320
00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,559
Speaker 5: the fifteen to twenty, everybody else the other guy's gotta

321
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320
Speaker 5: be in that same rim for them to have a

322
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,240
Speaker 5: chance to win this.

323
00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,560
Speaker 2: But I got a prediction.

324
00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,880
Speaker 5: I think because the Game six was so subpar by

325
00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,280
Speaker 5: Shaye and Jalen, I think they're gonna have a Kyrie

326
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,680
Speaker 5: lebron In type moment in game seven. I kind of

327
00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,199
Speaker 5: I feel like we're gonna have that moment in game seven.

328
00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,679
Speaker 5: Now I don't have too much doubt, but that did

329
00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,280
Speaker 5: scare me. I'm like, we put belt to Ass in

330
00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,599
Speaker 5: game six at they're going back to ok see the

331
00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,840
Speaker 5: role players and game sliders is up. Yeah, it's gonna

332
00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,640
Speaker 5: be a tough fight for show sure with all the

333
00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,640
Speaker 5: pressure on ok See though, Yeah.

334
00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,559
Speaker 2: No doubt it is.

335
00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,559
Speaker 5: So that's why Indiana has to hit first. They have

336
00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,679
Speaker 5: to hit second, and it's got to maintain that throughout

337
00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,800
Speaker 5: the whole game. It can't be no slippage where you

338
00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,240
Speaker 5: get down ten twelve, because when that slippage come, no,

339
00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,360
Speaker 5: Ass might be in trouble.

340
00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,119
Speaker 2: What's your take on Tom Ree's being a superstar?

341
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,640
Speaker 1: Hotels and Vegas might be books sold this weekend, but

342
00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,760
Speaker 1: it's one Vegacy left.

343
00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,760
Speaker 3: That's right, it's gonna be filled.

344
00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,040
Speaker 1: At UFC three seventeen, a new lightweight champ will be crowded.

345
00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:19,800
Speaker 2: Grab your old.

346
00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,600
Speaker 4: Crowd in a Draft Kings sportsbook, the official betting partner

347
00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,480
Speaker 4: of the UFC.

348
00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,440
Speaker 3: You know What's going on?

349
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,640
Speaker 1: Man two three takes on Charles Olivera to fel the

350
00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,000
Speaker 1: vacant Men's lightweight title as a headliner of the International

351
00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,440
Speaker 1: Fight Week. First time betting on Draft Kings on the

352
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,800
Speaker 1: UFC fight All you gotta do is pick one of

353
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,000
Speaker 1: the fighters is easy. It's an easy win. If you

354
00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,880
Speaker 1: knew the Draft Kings, all you gotta do is bet

355
00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,600
Speaker 1: five dollars. New customers, If you bet that five, you

356
00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,080
Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty dollars and bonus bits instantly.

357
00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,760
Speaker 1: Listen that load the Draft Kings sportsbook app now and

358
00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,360
Speaker 1: use that Cold Club five twenty.

359
00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:48,760
Speaker 2: That's right.

360
00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080
Speaker 1: Cold Club five to twenty gets you one hundred and

361
00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 1: fifty dollars and bonus best instantly when you bet just

362
00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,760
Speaker 1: five bucks.

363
00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,320
Speaker 2: Only on Draft Kings. The crown is yours.

364
00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,320
Speaker 7: Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler in New York

365
00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,960
Speaker 7: called eight seven eight Hope and Why, or text hope

366
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,600
Speaker 7: and why four six seven three six nine. In Connecticut,

367
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,000
Speaker 7: help is available for a problem gambling called eight eight

368
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360
Speaker 7: eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit

369
00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,760
Speaker 7: CCPG dot org. Please play responsibly on behalf of Boothill

370
00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880
Speaker 7: Casino when resorting Kansas twenty one on over agent eligibility

371
00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,240
Speaker 7: varies by jurisdiction. Voyden, Ontario, bonus bets Ekspire one hundred

372
00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,560
Speaker 7: and sixty eight hours after richuins four additional terms and

373
00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,720
Speaker 7: responsible gaming resources see dknng dot co slash audio.

374
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he's superstar. I though, shit, superstar.

375
00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,000
Speaker 1: No, they killed me when I said it. Oh man,

376
00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,400
Speaker 1: I can't walk around anything.

377
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,800
Speaker 2: But no, no, no, no, he know superstar. He's not.

378
00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,800
Speaker 2: He's not a superstar.

379
00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,640
Speaker 5: I think he's a really good basketball player on a

380
00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,640
Speaker 5: really good basketball team, Coach bar, really brilliant basketball mind.

381
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,080
Speaker 2: Superstar. He won a championship in Indiana. He deserve a benner.

382
00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,800
Speaker 5: And you're not saying he huh he said a sash.

383
00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, give time. It's a statue if he wins. I

384
00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,600
Speaker 4: just superstar playoff run. He had been an unbelievable playoff

385
00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 4: run in this in.

386
00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,840
Speaker 2: This series right here, he's been unbelievable.

387
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying his playoff run run to.

388
00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,480
Speaker 4: Get him here, it's been a great run. You're playing

389
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,240
Speaker 4: for the chip though, and if I win, I deserve

390
00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,480
Speaker 4: a statue.

391
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,720
Speaker 5: Even even though, like even though you're probably like the

392
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,600
Speaker 5: fourth and fifth best players in this series.

393
00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,760
Speaker 1: Who whoters Pascal been the best for the Pacers?

394
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 4: You said the fourth and fifth best player in this series. No,

395
00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,200
Speaker 4: he's number two in this series. Yes, it's Shane Tyrese Pascal.

396
00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,080
Speaker 2: Now you from Indiana to.

397
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,320
Speaker 5: It makes sense. It makes sense. No, Tye is a

398
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,120
Speaker 5: rich you know. You know what's crazy Tie For him

399
00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,920
Speaker 5: to be so good, I identify him. When I look

400
00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,400
Speaker 5: at Magic Johnson play basketball, I see Tyres little bit.

401
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I mean by that.

402
00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,680
Speaker 5: When you watch Magic play dominant right hand player, dominant dominant,

403
00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,080
Speaker 5: you don't really see them do too much on his left.

404
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,720
Speaker 2: Side of their body. Tyres is the same way.

405
00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,440
Speaker 5: If you only could be dynamic on the right side,

406
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,760
Speaker 5: and you got two killers that can play both sides

407
00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,600
Speaker 5: all over the court, you think you're gonna beat me

408
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,960
Speaker 5: being dominant on one side. So for him, for Tyre's

409
00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,240
Speaker 5: to be great, Tyree's gonna have to If you're gonna

410
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,920
Speaker 5: have four points, damn it, you gotta accumulate for your

411
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,000
Speaker 5: team at least forty points. That has to be the accumulation.

412
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,800
Speaker 5: You can't have four points and only accumulate like twelve

413
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,000
Speaker 5: points for your game. Now, if you want to be

414
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 5: a superstar, I'm fine with four points, but give me

415
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,199
Speaker 5: fifteen assists. Give me eight rebounds. That right there, to

416
00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 5: me is like a Jason Kidd. That's like that's having

417
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 5: an end print and you don't have to score that much,

418
00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:02,160
Speaker 5: But you can't give me four seven six, nah man, nah,

419
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,280
Speaker 5: I respect.

420
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,199
Speaker 3: It tack when I'm making on this.

421
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,240
Speaker 1: You know, two years ago, they trying to make their

422
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,400
Speaker 1: jokes about Jaylen Brown. They saying his left hand isn't

423
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,120
Speaker 1: the strongest. But you know what he did, He went

424
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 1: and got paid and got a chip. They all about

425
00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,639
Speaker 1: got he got a left hand. He ain't gonna left cool.

426
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,480
Speaker 1: They ain't gotta have a left hand to raise that

427
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,520
Speaker 1: banner up. Speaking of Jaylen Brown, I noticed, like your

428
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 1: little brother. It's like, who reminds you of you in

429
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 1: the league right now? Like me, The only person I

430
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 1: really see that kind of remind me of you was

431
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 1: like Kevin Durant. The way y'all score the ball is

432
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,400
Speaker 1: really kind of similar.

433
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 2: That's that's that's really it. I mean, it ain't too many.

434
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 1: I used to think Paul George, but then when I

435
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 1: watched PG, y'all kind of a little different. But you

436
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 1: and KD y'all do the rocker hanging dribble pull up?

437
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 2: Why why? Why? PG?

438
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 1: What he was a little more like pinned down cut

439
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 1: and shoots. He tried men, he tried pond today funny.

440
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,360
Speaker 3: I try to like that.

441
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: I like that.

442
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 3: I like you fright.

443
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 1: But speaking of comparison to some of the youngsters coming up,

444
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people do a lot of

445
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 1: you know, comparisons for as Bailey to say, you know,

446
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 1: best case scenario, he could be a really he could

447
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,479
Speaker 1: be close to Tracy McGrady. How you feel about that?

448
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: I like the Bailey's game. I actually want to see

449
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 1: him hm play this year. Kid has tremendous upside, smooth

450
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 1: about six six seven six eight, got a nice shot,

451
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400
Speaker 1: tough shot maker. You gotta be a tough shot maker

452
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 1: if you want to be compared to me, you got

453
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 1: to be able to make tough shots.

454
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,719
Speaker 2: And I think he.

455
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 5: He's going to be able to developing that creativity off

456
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 5: the dribble. Needs to get better, but he has the

457
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 5: potential most definitely.

458
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: Obviously, you know you went straight out of high schpital

459
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 1: to the league with the nil situation. Now, you know

460
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 1: you do a lot of mentoring you around these kids.

461
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 1: What's the advice that you give them now? With you

462
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you could possibly make more money

463
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 1: going back to school than being a first round pick.

464
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: You saying what would I do?

465
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 3: I know what you do. I'm saying, what advice did

466
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 3: you get to youngest man?

467
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,959
Speaker 5: I honestly, I think you got to have people around

468
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 5: you that understands finances. You know what I mean, because

469
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 5: given high school kids, you know, to five million dollars,

470
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,959
Speaker 5: that's tough to have for them on their mental I

471
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 5: was eighteen years old coming out of high school, signed

472
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 5: a twelve million dollar deal, but I still kept my drive,

473
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 5: like I didn't let that effect where I wanted to

474
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 5: go with my game. And I think a lot of

475
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 5: these kids now, man, I'm hearing them, it's like they

476
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 5: feel like they made it.

477
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 2: When they get their money, bro, it takes a little

478
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: bit of that drive away.

479
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 5: And I don't think these kids have that same type

480
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 5: of drive or you know, and to enthusiasm to reach

481
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 5: the highest level of basketball within themselves.

482
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

483
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 5: When they get this money, I think they lose a

484
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 5: little bit of that, and it's strong and important that

485
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 5: they have people around them that can understand the money

486
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 5: and what to do with it, but also keep them

487
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 5: level aheaded and keep them focused on the task that hand,

488
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 5: and that's improving as a basketball player, because you nowhere

489
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 5: near where you're going to be in five to ten

490
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 5: years definitely.

491
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: And you talk about this all the time because Segue

492
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: is a coach right now then and I, Yo, it

493
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: looks good, but it could stunch your growth where you

494
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: you get this money now, you get jeopardize some money later.

495
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: But it's crazy how y'all talk about as professionals, but

496
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: they take advice from other people who ain't even got

497
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: to that level yet. It's like they forget the main thing,

498
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: Like the goal is to make it to the NBA.

499
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: Like that's the goal.

500
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: I tell all the kids that I come in contact with, like, Okay,

501
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: you can get this money. That's great, you can help

502
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: your family right now, but the goal is to make

503
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: it to the league. Like two million dollars. Believe it

504
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: or not, it go kind of like, yeah, it's not

505
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot. I used to think people was crazy when

506
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: they said that. I'm like, two million dollars, you crazy,

507
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: that'd be good for life. But in that world it

508
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: goes kind of quick though.

509
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're trying to keep up with the Joneses.

510
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: Then when you run out your money, then your family

511
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: looking at you, like, what's the next? Now you don't

512
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 4: fuck your whole self up in your career, so I'll

513
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 4: get that.

514
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be the first thing is they take care

515
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: of everybody else with that money. They stressed out. Now

516
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: they don't get no more money.

517
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 5: It's scary, man, It's a scary situation, you know what

518
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 5: I mean, because these guys are so fragile, and it's

519
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 5: glorified on social media, so that's all they see. Yeah,

520
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 5: they're consuming all this information being social media, and they think, damn,

521
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 5: I'm getting this money.

522
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: Like I got a lot of money in my pocket.

523
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm rich.

524
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 5: Now, Nah, bro, you you ain't nowhere near that. You

525
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 5: can blow that shit tomorrow.

526
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: Now you talked about you came into the league at eighteen.

527
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, got you some chicken. But

528
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: now you're responsible. But what was your first like wildout purchase?

529
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: Was like, all right, I'm on that today.

530
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: My first wild out purchase. Honestly, my wife like because

531
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 5: listen on look man, man, now look.

532
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: Let me explain. All right, let explain the missplain.

533
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: So I'm crazy like you.

534
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: Married, Yeah, you broke bread. You broke bread. Let me

535
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: tell you. So.

536
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 5: I always like Biggie was my favorite artist back then,

537
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 5: and Biggie used to talk about Lexus land Cruiser. Okay,

538
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 5: so I always wanted a Lexus land Cruiser.

539
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: Bro.

540
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: So when I graduated high school, I drove to Raleigh

541
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: because that's I was in Durham, North Carolina. I drove

542
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 5: to Raleigh. I'm at the Lexus JYP dealership looking to

543
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 5: get my land Cruiser. I see this this female that's

544
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 5: the receptionist.

545
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, So I had to go talk

546
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: to him to see what's up.

547
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 5: After that, this is the time where before the draft,

548
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 5: I'm driving. I'm going around touring all my teams. Man,

549
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 5: So I got connected with her. The Bulls are playing,

550
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 5: we go to dinner watch in the NBA Finals.

551
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: I felt like, this is gonna be my wife.

552
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 5: Bro I'm traveling from city to city calling her on

553
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 5: the on the flight, on my flight checking in.

554
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: That's when they had phones on the plane.

555
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 5: So I'm swiping my credit card calling this woman. This

556
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: was nineteen ninety seven, fan, it's what twenty twenty five, still.

557
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Married as far kids later. So yeah, Louisa invest him

558
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven, ninety seven, dog old was ten ninety seven.

559
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: How old are you?

560
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven ninety seven. I was seven, Yeah, I

561
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: was ten. Now I gotta ask a questions. Did you

562
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: still buy the car? I still bought the car?

563
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Where is it a now?

564
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

565
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: I sold?

566
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 5: That's just man, That motherfucker probably crushed somewhere in the

567
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 5: junk yards.

568
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you, did you and Vince ever

569
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 6: have any one on one matchups?

570
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: Nah?

571
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: Never?

572
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: Nah, we didn't. What d uh tell me about your

573
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: one on one league? Man?

574
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 5: So I started my one on one league in twenty

575
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 5: twenty two, and it's really just based off of my

576
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 5: story and how I got to where.

577
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: You know.

578
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 5: I ended up being nineteen ninety six junior in high school,

579
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: one of the best players in Central Florida. No one

580
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 5: really knew about me and outside of my region. This

581
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 5: guy from Adidas comes to my high school and he

582
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 5: has a camp that wants me to attend. This camp,

583
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 5: I go to ABCD. We all know about the ABCD camp.

584
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 5: Lamar Oldham top high school players. I'm make a name

585
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: for myself on this platform.

586
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: Right.

587
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: It's not that anything changed about me. It's just a

588
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: platform that I got on and it created you know,

589
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 5: some buzz for me, ended up being the number one

590
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: player in the country.

591
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: Well, for these kids.

592
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: Out here that it's being overlooked, probably had some you know,

593
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 5: turbulent times in there on their journey to play basketball.

594
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 5: Who knows, somebody in the family probably died. They had

595
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 5: to step up as a man and take care of

596
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 5: the family. You just don't know what their role was.

597
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 5: For these casts. I wanted to create a platform for

598
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 5: those type of dudes that get overlooked. And one on

599
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: one basketball is not for everybody. There's a lot of

600
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 5: talent out there, Jeff. You know it's some casts on

601
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 5: your block where you come from nice as hell at

602
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: one on one so and to me, we all grew

603
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 5: up playing one on one basketball. That's the pure essence

604
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 5: of our sport. So creating that that foundation for these guys,

605
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 5: that platform, I want to create stars through one on

606
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 5: one basketball. And that's what OBL is really about, just

607
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 5: really giving guys another chance, giving them.

608
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: A hope to live out their dreams. Because we all

609
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: come from places. It's like such and such could have

610
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: made it, but such as such could have did this, But.

611
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 3: So from somebody else have another outlet.

612
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Maybe not the most traditional rouck because you never know

613
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: what they got going on, but a chance to make

614
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: it to feed their family from basketball.

615
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: Always a good look show. So check us out. OBL

616
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 5: started a YouTube channel week. We're on our five part

617
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: series right now. We got four episodes out and you

618
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: can see what I'm doing with these guys. Man, they

619
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 5: I think they appreciate that. So we need to come comment.

620
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 5: Tell you one of them, bro.

621
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: Y'all, come do it.

622
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Brot's come out here and act the food.

623
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: Next one. I'm for real pull up, all right, So

624
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: I love that.

625
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: So most definitely Man Max, some Moist and team at

626
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: one time for the one time Mac wear.

627
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: Them drums man the size boy and they ain't thing

628
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: and that little pouch.

629
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 5: Should I walk around the beach with them? Walk around

630
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: the beach? Well that's on you saying, don't shirt on

631
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 5: just these just the drunks.

632
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: You out of podcast on respect Man coun wearingdom boxes

633
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: for show man.

634
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: What talk about Mowaukee doing your appreciate y'all?

635
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, give it up, give it up, give it up again.

636
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: Club five twenty is

637
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: The volume