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Speaker 5: I'm telling you I'm ready. And Darren Urban, how about

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Speaker 5: disturb kid. You know, as much as I despised Shakespeare

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Speaker 5: And that is why we are gathered here today for

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Speaker 5: this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 5: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert Miracle in the desert.

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Speaker 5: That is the title of tonight's episode, as we hit

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Speaker 5: time anecdotes, as we like to say, Cardinals folktales where

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Speaker 5: Paul calvic Here, Darren Urban was there covered the game

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Speaker 5: back in two thousand and three. This is the rare game, Darren,

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Speaker 5: not get. The Vikings do not get a playoff Berth,

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Speaker 5: Talking about this season finale two thousand and three.

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Speaker 5: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. Yes,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna learn in fact, you tell us since you

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Speaker 5: And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career

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Speaker 5: Miracle in the Desert. It's the final week of two

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Speaker 8: And the ball it is touchdown Tortinals.

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Speaker 9: An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field,

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Speaker 8: The five things are going home for the new year.

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Speaker 10: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that.

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Speaker 5: Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.

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Speaker 9: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're gonna be host.

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Speaker 7: It was that if the sun fell out of the sky.

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Speaker 5: That time that two teams played one game that stop

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Speaker 3: I think even the fans were like, now, let's just

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Speaker 7: they cost me, Nate pull Man. I'd never forgive him

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Speaker 5: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where

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Speaker 5: we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes

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Speaker 5: time when little known Nate Poole got the key to

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Speaker 10: We gotta win a game, and we haven't won a

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Speaker 5: You know, there are a lot of people I know

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Speaker 2: Obviously. Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room.

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Speaker 5: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.

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Speaker 15: I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day?

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Speaker 8: The ideas, and what they thought. So I gotta win

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Speaker 15: So you asking me to make up answer to something

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Speaker 8: Yeah, please, somebody tell you.

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Speaker 5: Such, Please thank you.

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Speaker 8: How about the spirit of John Inness and happiness?

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Speaker 5: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,

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Speaker 5: Here's voice of the Cardinals Dave Pash. It was in

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Speaker 3: And you endure that long of a season and you're

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Speaker 2: Balls like that whole year. You grow up fast in

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Speaker 2: I think when you look at their roster, uh, when

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Speaker 3: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from tenpe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.

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Speaker 5: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call

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Speaker 5: Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard

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Speaker 5: A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,

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Speaker 5: so it's seventeen to twelve. Vikings, a score echoed on

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Speaker 9: Jack Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way

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Speaker 5: That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Larrvie and Larry

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Speaker 13: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And

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Speaker 5: That's former Cardinals running back Damian Anderson. And that's the recipe,

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Speaker 2: We were all standing there, you know, waiting because that

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Speaker 9: The Arizona Cardinals trying an onside kick and Larry Loan

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Speaker 8: Then maybe they don't have a miracle. Keep talking about it.

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Speaker 9: You may be jinxing us into something good here. Maybe

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Speaker 10: You get to that onside kick and now all of

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Speaker 5: That's longtime voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. More from

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Speaker 9: Meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a little

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Speaker 5: There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in

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Speaker 3: Looking left, pup back of the pound, sacked back at

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Speaker 2: Eight Emmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh,

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Speaker 2: we got wow, Tom House, we gotta go. So we

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Speaker 3: The clock running down, under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth

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Speaker 2: Gonna come down to this.

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Speaker 5: They gotta throw it into the end zone.

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Speaker 7: This is it.

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Speaker 5: Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance

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Speaker 5: once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

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Speaker 10: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step

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Speaker 5: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?

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Speaker 9: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the

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Speaker 3: Here we go eight seconds seven six five four the

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Speaker 10: This will be the last play.

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Speaker 3: The count steps up, rolling far side.

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Speaker 12: Just so happened. He got flushed, He got flushed out

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Speaker 7: And the ball is.

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Speaker 8: Put touchdown Cardinals by Poole, and the Cardinals win the

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Speaker 12: Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running he's rolling,

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Speaker 5: What a great prow by Josh McCown. He threw it

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Speaker 7: And he did it.

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was just there was a connection

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Speaker 3: Josh McComb Fen's made Poole in the back of the

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Speaker 5: Even more to Nate Poole, the guy who had been

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Speaker 8: Take LFL don't come back deal and next to y'all

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Speaker 5: two thousand and four draft franchise, quarterbacks going two different teams,

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well,

444
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Speaker 5: who might have gone number one overall, the Cardinals were

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Speaker 5: in that position, but they weren't. And the changes even

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Speaker 5: extended to the rule book years later. We'll get to

447
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Speaker 5: that when we come back. And don't forget Nate Pool

448
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Speaker 5: was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the

449
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Speaker 5: toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive

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Speaker 5: all that when we come back to this very special

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Speaker 5: Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in

452
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Speaker 5: the Desert, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. It's our

453
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Speaker 5: special Cardinals folk Tales edition of the Big Red Rage

454
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Speaker 5: was santan Ford in Gilbert. This is where we go

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Speaker 5: into Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell the

456
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Speaker 5: word history without the word story. And we're talking about

457
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Speaker 5: the final game of the two thousand and three season.

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Speaker 5: My name is Paul calvi Seen. We started by saying,

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Speaker 5: remember that one time, that one game played by two

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Speaker 5: teams in two thousand and three, that stop time in

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Speaker 5: three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and

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Speaker 5: was the in or out of bounds? We pose that question, Well,

463
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Speaker 5: he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most

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Speaker 5: definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out

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Speaker 5: of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that,

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Speaker 5: but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking

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Speaker 5: about a team that not only started six to zero

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Speaker 5: and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season,

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Speaker 5: the four worst teams in the league were the Giants,

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Speaker 5: the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished

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Speaker 5: four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings,

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Speaker 5: so you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side.

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Speaker 5: In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings,

474
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Speaker 5: Paul Allen, became a meme before there even were memes

475
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Speaker 5: in social media. And that's where we rejoined this edition

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Speaker 5: of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals

477
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Speaker 5: quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Looking back, like, you feel bad for the Vikings because

479
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Speaker 2: they were right there on the cusp, and to lose

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Speaker 2: that way, man, that's bitter.

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Speaker 5: Nate Pool's game winning playoff busting, last second fourth down

482
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Speaker 5: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture

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Speaker 5: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were

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Speaker 5: left in a state of utter disbelief.

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Speaker 10: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to

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Speaker 10: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were

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Speaker 10: just downtrodden. And you just don't lose like that. Nobody

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Speaker 10: loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not ang

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Speaker 10: Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect the dots,

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Speaker 10: you know, of the entire thing over twenty years, it

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Speaker 10: hits me so vividly because of how emotional it was

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Speaker 10: at that moment.

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Speaker 8: The season's on the line, two receivers left and right.

495
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Speaker 8: McCown takes a snap, he steps up, he's all by himself,

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Speaker 8: fires into the end zone.

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Speaker 14: DoD dods down.

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Speaker 8: No, No, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of

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Speaker 8: the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call.

501
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Speaker 10: He didn't let me know, but he let others know.

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Speaker 10: Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some

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Speaker 10: conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 10: you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out.

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Speaker 10: So I had to deal with that very young in

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Speaker 10: my career.

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Speaker 3: I understand where Paul's coming from. You get invested in

508
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Speaker 3: the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled

509
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Speaker 3: it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,

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Speaker 3: but that's how the fans feeling.

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Speaker 2: No, are you kidding?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 3: That was Paul's reaction.

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Speaker 10: One thing I remember about the call is I looked

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Speaker 10: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers

516
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Speaker 10: coach at that time, Pete Bursage, he could hear me

517
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Speaker 10: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, And then

518
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Speaker 10: I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out

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Speaker 10: of the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: The way he looked at me, it was not anger

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Speaker 10: at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god,

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Speaker 10: I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that

524
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Speaker 10: check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus,

525
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Speaker 10: it just went up into the tenpiece.

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Speaker 5: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.

527
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Speaker 5: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter

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Speaker 5: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network, and.

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Speaker 9: Here we go, this is if the season for the Packers.

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Speaker 9: On the line into the end zone, the count pack.

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Speaker 8: Hey got it.

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Speaker 9: Out, cutting down a cut down, It's out on Packers

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Speaker 9: by label.

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Speaker 5: The complete dead look from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron

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Speaker 5: reacting to a game they're not even calling, just watching

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Speaker 5: from two thousand miles away.

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Speaker 9: Patters the biggest maraicon on the Packers. Sadly, any reps Packers,

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Speaker 9: I finally realize there's any rep. I'm a final playoff

539
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Speaker 9: the regular season for the fight Kings. They lose eighteen

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Speaker 9: to seventeen. The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're

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Speaker 9: gonna be hosted a game true.

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Speaker 5: Brett Farv and the Packers would host the Seahawks at

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Speaker 5: Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave McGinnis shared with

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Speaker 5: the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark

545
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Speaker 5: Hatley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king

546
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Speaker 5: here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,

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Speaker 5: speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started

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00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 5: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,

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Speaker 5: almost somber. For all that we've been through, we never

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Speaker 5: quit on each other.

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Speaker 4: It was a constant, constant reminder of what character I've

552
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Speaker 4: got in this room.

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Speaker 5: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.

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Speaker 2: It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man,

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Speaker 2: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And

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Speaker 2: he was genuine with his work and you know, and

557
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Speaker 2: how I cared about guys, and so I think he

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Speaker 2: understood in that moment that that was probably, you know,

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Speaker 2: the last time or one of the last times he

560
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Speaker 2: was going to address us as a group.

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Speaker 5: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because

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Speaker 5: you've got my heart.

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Speaker 8: You've got my heart.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's a roller coaster really because you were just as

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Speaker 2: high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes,

567
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,

568
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Speaker 2: the business sets in.

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Speaker 11: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught.

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Speaker 11: What did I tell you last night? I cut this

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Speaker 11: man four times. I cut him four times, and every

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Speaker 11: time I did, he stood up in my office and

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Speaker 11: hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll

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Speaker 11: be back because you're the only man I want to

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Speaker 11: play for.

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Speaker 5: And that's the way I know that all of you

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Speaker 5: feel right now.

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Speaker 12: What was real motion on It was like you know,

579
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Speaker 12: your last family hug, you know, and you know, and

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00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 12: it hurt because we know, you know, he's a player's

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Speaker 12: coach and he loved the players. He want the players

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Speaker 12: to do, you know, to excel, to be really great.

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Speaker 5: You know what I feel for you, You know what

584
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Speaker 5: I feel for you.

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Speaker 4: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not

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Speaker 4: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, most of us felt like we let Dave down

588
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Speaker 12: because you know, we didn't come up on the winning

589
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Speaker 12: side of a lot of these games to keep him around.

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Speaker 5: I'll never ever give up on you.

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Speaker 9: I love you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: On the very next day, with a feign twelfth season

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Speaker 5: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.

595
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Speaker 5: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse

596
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Speaker 5: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,

597
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 5: the party was just starting and Nate Poole's celebrity was growing.

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Speaker 9: Nathan Pole of all people hopout that Nathan Cole may

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Speaker 9: become a household name.

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Speaker 8: In green Bay.

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Speaker 10: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I

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Speaker 10: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but

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Speaker 10: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of

604
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 10: course the next week he was given a key to

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Speaker 10: the city of Green Bay and he.

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Speaker 5: Got to go to their playoff game, and that is accurate.

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Speaker 5: Nate Poole, who going into the season finale had eight

608
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Speaker 5: catches all season and no touchdowns, was now Packers royalty,

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Speaker 5: to the point where he got a call from the

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Speaker 5: Mayor of green Bay.

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Speaker 12: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 12: here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking

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Speaker 12: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that

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Speaker 12: player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what

615
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 12: are you doing. Then I got a call right back

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00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 12: the same number and I'm like, okay, hey, how you

617
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 12: doing this in April?

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Speaker 5: And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, this is not

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Speaker 5: a joke.

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Speaker 10: This is Mayor Schmidt.

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Speaker 12: I love to get you out in a speed talking

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Speaker 12: I love to get you out to one of the games.

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Speaker 12: I said, oh no, I would love to come out.

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Speaker 5: And that's not the only call he got that week.

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Speaker 5: On The Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,

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Speaker 5: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.

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Speaker 3: Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, Joe.

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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to

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Speaker 14: wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to

631
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Speaker 14: give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started

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Speaker 14: off six and oh this year, I've been taking a

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Speaker 14: lot of grief or getting a lot of grief from

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Speaker 14: my friends who are Viking fans. And I would roll

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Speaker 14: my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you

636
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 14: ever learn the Vikings will find some way to implode

637
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 14: again this year? And sweet revenge. It has been a

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Speaker 14: wonderful couple of days, and I just want to offer

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Speaker 14: a great big thank you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking date out to dinner

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Speaker 3: when he gets up there.

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Speaker 14: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

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Speaker 14: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

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Speaker 14: He will have a lot of people who will take

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Speaker 14: good care of him.

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Speaker 5: Nate Poole laughed all the way to green Bay, an

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Speaker 5: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyer's

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Speaker 5: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand

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Speaker 5: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end

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Speaker 5: of that touchdown pass QB Josh McCown.

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Speaker 2: You know, they flying Nate up to Green Bay and

652
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Speaker 2: they give him a kitha city or whatever they did,

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Speaker 2: and they're sending us We were getting Christmas cards from

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00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card

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00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: and you know it was, you know, scratched out. Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for beating the Vikings. Go Pat go

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00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: and we got loads of Christmas cards mail to the

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Speaker 2: house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese basket

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Speaker 2: you've ever seen in your life.

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Speaker 5: That was two thousand and three. But even to this day,

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Speaker 5: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for

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Speaker 5: both school Nation and America's dairy Land.

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Speaker 2: Walking through an airport or whatever, and there will be,

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Speaker 2: you know, a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you

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Speaker 2: know you owe me, you know type of thing. Or

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Speaker 2: it'll be a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you

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Speaker 2: for getting us in the playoffs that year, you know,

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Speaker 2: we owe you.

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Speaker 7: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,

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Speaker 7: and I did not like Napole because I thought I

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Speaker 7: had a chance to be the number one pick, and

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Speaker 7: I used to always mess with Nate.

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Speaker 5: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald, not only a former Vikings

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Speaker 5: ball boy and their number one fan at the time,

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Speaker 5: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall

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Speaker 5: in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 12: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he

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Speaker 12: would have been the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 5: We're talking in the receiver room before the.

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Speaker 12: Meeting about being him being an number one pick. You know,

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Speaker 12: as I think back to what inside the bonus was,

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Speaker 12: he didn't do too bad at the number three pick.

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Speaker 2: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the

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Speaker 2: number one pick, and I go back and go, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he

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Speaker 2: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and

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Speaker 2: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately

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Speaker 2: for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise,

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Speaker 2: you know, through a lot of things to become a

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Speaker 2: you know, a competitive franchise, and you know, to really

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Speaker 2: what they are today.

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Speaker 3: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what

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Speaker 3: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 3: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,

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Speaker 5: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll

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Speaker 5: never know who knew head coach Denny Green would have

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Speaker 5: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says

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Speaker 5: at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection.

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Speaker 7: Then he said, I would have been That's what he

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Speaker 7: told me. I would have been but you know what,

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Speaker 7: it all works his way out. I was able to

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Speaker 7: still get here and play for him. I know we

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Speaker 7: didn't have the success I'd love to have for him.

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Speaker 7: You know, he gave me my first two jobs I

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Speaker 7: ever had as a ball boy and then as a

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Speaker 7: professional athlete, and so I I owe him a huge

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Speaker 7: debt of gratitude and I'm just so very thankful for

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Speaker 7: you know, the doors he open for me and my family.

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Speaker 8: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win the game.

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Speaker 12: The Cardinal I brought my heart head to practice in

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Speaker 12: the games every day, and I knew, you know, that's

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Speaker 12: what it was about as growing up as a youngster.

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Speaker 12: That was about, you know, bringing your hard hat and

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Speaker 12: working out and just pushing to make the team.

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Speaker 3: You know, coaches say, run every route it's if it's

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Speaker 3: your last one. Nate Pool really did it. But it

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Speaker 3: was like comical, like he went so hard. So it's

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Speaker 3: pretty cool to see a guy that worked that hard

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Speaker 3: have one of the biggest plays of the season, not

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Speaker 3: just for the Cardinals but for the entire league.

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Speaker 12: I got to you, hey, you can only do it

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Speaker 12: one play at a time. I got you on that play.

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Speaker 5: And needless to say, it's the play in Nate Poole's career,

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Speaker 5: one of the most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history.

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Speaker 8: The Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And Nate Pull's a good person, He's a great person

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Speaker 2: to be around. And you look back at that and

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Speaker 2: that's a special moment for me in my career as well. So,

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Speaker 2: but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And they's

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Speaker 2: a good dude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, who says good dudes finished last?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 5: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then, with a

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Speaker 5: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on

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Speaker 5: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,

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Speaker 5: we had Nathan Poole.

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Speaker 10: So there you have it.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two

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Speaker 5: Souls for producer Jim O. Mahundro, I'm Paul Calvic and

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Speaker 5: that's the story of how an unknown receiver won that day,

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Speaker 5: but a Hall of Fame receiver was on his way.

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Speaker 3: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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Speaker 3: and one of the greatest receivers of all.

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Speaker 16: Time, with the third choice In the two thousand and

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Speaker 16: four NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald, wide

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Speaker 16: receiver University of Fitchbird.

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Speaker 5: That was the red seat Cardinals fans at the official

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Speaker 5: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to

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Speaker 5: the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few

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Speaker 5: months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against

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Speaker 5: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out

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Speaker 5: on the number one pick overall, ostensibly a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 5: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.

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Speaker 5: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A

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Speaker 5: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,

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Speaker 5: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole,

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Speaker 5: who only had one foot down in the end zone

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Speaker 5: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated

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Speaker 5: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren Rman, would the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it

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Speaker 5: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when

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Speaker 5: we come back with this very special Cardinals Full Tales

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Speaker 5: edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert

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Speaker 5: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert, and we're wrapping up

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Speaker 5: this very special Cardinals Full Tales edition of The Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert Paul Kelvicy

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Speaker 5: joined by Darren Irvan. Darren Irvan covered the game. Miracle

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Speaker 5: in the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folk

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Speaker 5: Tales where we're going to the archives in some great,

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Speaker 5: rarely heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from

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Speaker 5: the Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio

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Speaker 5: we heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGuinness Josh McCown

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Speaker 5: all talking about not only the end of the game,

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Speaker 5: but the start of a new era of Cardinals football

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Speaker 5: in so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,

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Speaker 5: because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game?

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Speaker 5: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they

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Speaker 5: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone

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Speaker 5: franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 6: You know, if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 6: because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.

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Speaker 6: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading

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Speaker 6: up to the draft. Denny wasn't like a lot of

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Speaker 6: coaches there were. Oftentimes when he was he said more

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Speaker 6: than maybe then maybe he should. And I remember in

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Speaker 6: those days, I was covering the team for the East

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Speaker 6: Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day in

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Speaker 6: the off season sometime in April, and I was the

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Speaker 6: only writer here and the only other media member who

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Speaker 6: was showing up was brad Cessmett, who was working for

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Speaker 6: one of the local stations that day, and he had

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Speaker 6: an interview apparently scheduled with Denny Green. And all they

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Speaker 6: did was bring Denny Green down to the media area

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Speaker 6: and then they just had a camera and they were

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Speaker 6: sitting there and they're having it. So as a media member,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to listen to the interview and take what

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Speaker 6: I can get from it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.

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Speaker 6: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to

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Speaker 6: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning

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Speaker 6: and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals

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Speaker 6: picking third, and at this point, the Cardinal's quarterback was

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Speaker 6: Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and

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Speaker 6: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.

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Speaker 6: He would talk him up all the time, and at

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Speaker 6: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take

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Speaker 6: a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had

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Speaker 6: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I

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Speaker 6: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously the

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Speaker 6: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the

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Speaker 6: next day I came back. There were other writers here.

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Speaker 6: Ken Summer showed up, Bob bomb from the Associated Press,

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Speaker 6: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk

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Speaker 6: and they're trying to get him to say the same

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Speaker 6: thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob

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Speaker 6: Bam says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying

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Speaker 6: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday,

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Speaker 6: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Today is today.

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Speaker 5: I tell you though, that was back in the days,

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Speaker 5: and we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't

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Speaker 5: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity

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Speaker 5: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way

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Speaker 5: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and

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Speaker 5: fits as it came to be Once he did get drafted,

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Speaker 5: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there

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Speaker 5: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that

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Speaker 5: he cost him the number one pick overall.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made

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Speaker 6: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But

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Speaker 6: you do wonder a little bit what, Okay, Eli Manning

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Speaker 6: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.

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Speaker 6: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take

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Speaker 6: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 6: how different does life with the Cardinals? You know happen?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 6: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl

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Speaker 6: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance

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Speaker 6: throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 6: And the Cardinals don't make the Super Bowl unless Larry

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Speaker 6: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide

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Speaker 6: receiver ever.

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Speaker 5: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals if Eli Manning and end up with the Giants.

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Speaker 6: A true. So, although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants,

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Speaker 6: he was drafted by the Chargers and they had to

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Speaker 6: make the trade for Philip Rivers. There was a lot

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Speaker 6: of intrigue without draft.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much

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Speaker 5: of a career after that. No always remembered for what

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Speaker 5: he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all

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Speaker 5: expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because

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Speaker 5: he got a key to the city and everything else.

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Speaker 5: But they ended up changing the force out rule in

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Speaker 5: large part because of how that went down in the

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Speaker 5: end zone at Sun Devil Stadium.

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Speaker 6: I had no question that it was a force out play.

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Speaker 6: And now you have to get feet down and if

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Speaker 6: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that

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Speaker 6: touchdown does not count in today's NFL.

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Speaker 5: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.

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Speaker 5: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and

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Speaker 5: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special Thanks to

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Speaker 1: presentation of the Arizona Cardinals football Club