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Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Ron, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, thanks for being there. I was calling because

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Speaker 1: I've maintained it top form and always even when beyond

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Speaker 1: in some cases. You know, I overheard the other caller

429
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: about the oil change. I always changed the oil on

430
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: or before the time frame, and in fact it's basically

431
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: based in more mileage than than time. Right. Uh, you know,

432
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: so as far as the truck, the truck's running great.

433
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I don't see any significant loss

434
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: in in mileage. Change the spark plugs, efficiency or anything

435
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: like that. Change change the spark plugs. Here's why you're

436
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: you're you're you're not gonna see any loss in efficiency

437
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: from the seat of your pants. But but what's going

438
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: to feel the effect and the loss of efficiency is

439
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: the way the vehicle runs at the let's call it

440
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: the atomic level um the way the way the mixture

441
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: goes out the tailpipe with the catalytic verders are going through.

442
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: What what sort of carbon deposits are increasingly being created

443
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: in the cylinders from in complete combustion from poor spark plugs.

444
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: You know it all, it all tends to snowball and

445
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: build up. And you know, there's a reason they call

446
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: for plugs at a designated mileage interval. And I honestly

447
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I got a call it like I see it, George,

448
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: just because these are tough to get out. And you

449
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: know at the time you didn't want to spend the money.

450
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: You can't use that as the excuse, you know what,

451
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: I don't need spark plugs the trucks running. Okay. You

452
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: know that's like me saying I'm sixty years old and

453
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take up smoking, but I don't

454
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: have to worry. We're worrying about the effects of it

455
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: on my health because I'm sixty and I'm in good health.

456
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, who cares what happens tomorrow. You know, it's

457
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: you don't start having irrational behavior at the point after

458
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: you realize you could be creating a problem somewhere else

459
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: down the point. I guess it's my point, and maybe

460
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing a bad job of explaining it. No, I

461
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: got you. And again I was kind of leading that way.

462
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: Like I said, it really wasn't even at this point.

463
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: It's a it's a mood situation with Ford trying to

464
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: give me money. Now, you know, I would still have

465
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: the conversation with Ford. I would still go in there

466
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: and you know, bang on the drum about I bought

467
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: a Ford product. You guys have a problem. You scared

468
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: the Jesus Oude of me getting get me out of

469
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: here two years ago and now here I am, uh,

470
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, can we do something? Can you do something

471
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: for me? The numbers I'm hearing at the national level.

472
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm hearing stories from four dealers that the cost of

473
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: spark plug replacement on this particular motor and this is

474
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: the this is the four six or the five four,

475
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: this is the three valve motor? Is what this? Right? Uh?

476
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: This is a five four three valve. You know, I'm

477
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: hearing dollars in the amount of somewhere between eight hundred

478
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: and thousand bucks. All right. You know, Now I read

479
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: things online at some of the mechanics forums that I

480
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: that I watch, and you know, believe it or not,

481
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: what some guys talk about is the easiest way to

482
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: do these plugs is cold with a three eights impact gun,

483
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: and they're pulling them right out of the heads. I

484
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen that work every time I try. Every time

485
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: I try that, every time I do one, the plug

486
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: breaks off in the head and I gotta get out

487
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: the special tool and go through the drama. So you know,

488
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: they are they are a little bit of a nightmare

489
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: to do. Haven't had the experience yet of having to

490
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: pull ahead um, which can happen too, and Ford should

491
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: make you aware of that. That's the reason they're getting

492
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: money up front, because they're preparing you for when you say,

493
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: g I don't want to fix it, you know, and

494
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell you, well, you know, driving a seven

495
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: cylinder and that doesn't work too well unless you pull

496
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: the head. It gives them, you know, it puts them

497
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: in the power, the seed of power. So I think

498
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: it's back to the Ford dealer. It's what's your best

499
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: guest for an estimate, and you bite the bullet and

500
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: you get them done, all right. Now. Also keep in

501
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: mind that there are a couple of spark plug manufacturers

502
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: out there that have gotten away from the two piece

503
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: spark plug design, which is what these are. And I

504
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: believe one of them is Champion, and I think the

505
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: other one is auto Light. I am not I am

506
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: not only present certain that Motorcraft has one as of yet,

507
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised because Ford realizes what

508
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: a problem these plugs are. Yeah, I looked that up.

509
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: I only call the brand. I believe it was probably Champion.

510
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: I saw some article about using the one piece versus

511
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: theft problem one and then if if you want, if

512
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: you can get your hands on it and you want

513
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: to read it, there's a sixteen page bulletin uh all

514
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: about this from Ford bulletin number eight dash seven dash

515
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: six that gives specific spark plug removal instructions and oh,

516
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: eight dash seven dash six seven dash six, all right,

517
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of like every time I'm

518
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: in a dealership doing something, I always I'm always amused

519
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: by the customer that walks in with the bullet in

520
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: in my hand and says, look, you've got a problem.

521
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: You know, well, no, I I think knowledge is power,

522
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: and I think it's I think it's very effective. I

523
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: think um standing there especially. You know, I always tell

524
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: somebody if you're gonna make a scene or you want

525
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: to go in and you know, make a subtle scene,

526
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: you always go in to complain either between the hours

527
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: of eight and nine in the morning or four and

528
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: five in the afternoon, because that's when the crowds the

529
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: largest and people are either dropping off their cars or

530
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: picking up their cars, and nothing clears, nothing clears and

531
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: solves the problem faster than the guy going I'm losing

532
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: ground here. I better make this guy happy, because I'm

533
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: gonna have people watch this show. People are very in

534
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: tune to how people are treated in an order repair facility,

535
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: and it's very important. So all right, sir, all right,

536
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: after the hunting season. After the hunting season, he had

537
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: the bathroom work done. I appreciate it. George. You take

538
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: good care of the rist of the weekend. Thank you,

539
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: Thank you you too, George. Happy Thanksgiving to you and

540
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: yours up that way. Five zero nine zero zero. The

541
00:27:50,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: car doctors coming back. Don't go away. I ain't ever

542
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: being with the woman MoMA noo, the car doctor again.

543
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Time for day. Hey, welcome pack Ron meeting the car

544
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: doctor special shouting hello to our special studio guest. In

545
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: studio guest. And she there, Yeah, she's there. Wave little lady, Hello,

546
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Wave you're on the air. Smile. There she is. She's waving.

547
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: Mom's here with us today in studio. And she looks

548
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: great sitting there. She's recovering from telling me stories about you, Embloyer.

549
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: You in trouble. Well, let me tell you she knows

550
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: all the stories too. Uh but you know that's can

551
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: mom say hello? Is that mom yelled hello? Hello? There

552
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: you go. Mom's mom's waving saying load everybody, Yeah, there

553
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: you go. Look, twenty six years, I finally got you

554
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: on radio with me. He's twenty six years. He's finally

555
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: got you on the air. Ye true, yeah, there you go.

556
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: So ye, well you're just I just love your smoothness.

557
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: That's thank god I inherit that chain from you. Okay,

558
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Matt Columbus, Ohio. Ninety

559
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: four Buick Roadmaster, Love you mom, and see what's going

560
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: on here, Matthew? How can I help running any of

561
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: the car? Docorate your service? Hey, Ron, thanks for taking

562
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: my love the show man. You welcome in. What's going on? Uh? Okay?

563
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: Uh ninety four Buick Roadmaster. I have a check engine

564
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: light that kind of comes on whenever it wants to.

565
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: And I found out through the climate control you can

566
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: find a trouble codes. What number they are? Found out

567
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: it's a crank sensor code and these crank censor, two

568
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: of them. They were both changed about a year ago.

569
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: I changed him about a year ago because I had

570
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: to drain the whole block because the was mummy water

571
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: looking what what what? What? What? What? What number of

572
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: code is that? Matt? Yeah, that's a that's a knock sensor.

573
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah sorry, that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, forty three

574
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: is a knock sensor. Um, so go ahead. Yeah. So Um,

575
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: I had to train, I had to take and I

576
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: replaced them and uh, and I torked them back down

577
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: to fifteen foot pounds like with inspect fifty UM that

578
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: it's about a year later now, and they the check

579
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: engine life is kind of coming on there. Middle. It's

580
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: just that one code, right, let me ask you this.

581
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's diagnose it like this, all right? If

582
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: if you disconnect both sensors and and by the way,

583
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: isn't this an engineering marvel? How they buried the knock

584
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: censor down under the exhaust manifolds. That's that's that's where

585
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: I put them. But I can't pick on engineers because yeah,

586
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to upset any engineers in this world,

587
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: because I just whatever, UM disconnect the knock sensor. You

588
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: should have five vaults keyon, engine off. There should be

589
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: five vaults on those wires, all right. The way that works,

590
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: the College word is that's a p z O electric sensors.

591
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: This generates its own signal and it's it's it's listening.

592
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: It's an audible ear that's listening to the sounds inside

593
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: the engine. And if it hears knock in the form

594
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: of UM engine full or um uh timing like spark knock,

595
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: and you know timing over advanced in an older car

596
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: or cheap gas or carbon deposits, sometimes internal engine mechanical

597
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: noise knocking and so on. Um it will trigger its

598
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: own voltage signal using that five volt signal supplied by

599
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: the PCM andvariate and create a signal. Now, what the

600
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: forty three says is the forty three says that it's

601
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: a circuit fault or it's receiving a signal at an

602
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: incorrect time. So you know, the question now is what's

603
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: wrong with the circuit disconnected? Both knock sensors put a

604
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: five voltmeter on each wire. You should have five vaults.

605
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: If you don't have five vaults, then you've got to

606
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: check that wire or wires back to the PCM to

607
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: see if they're open or if there's a problem with

608
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: the harness. All right, now, what I have seen. What

609
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: I have seen is I have seen because of where

610
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: those harnesses are located, I have seen those harnesses start

611
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: to have higher resistance and that creates an issue. And

612
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: I've also seen those sensors themselves. Depending upon the quality

613
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: of them and how well they're connected, you should see

614
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: about four thousand omens resistance across those sensors. Okay, all right, Ron,

615
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: do you think it's possible that uh, since that the

616
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: cooling was really disgusting when I drained it out, is

617
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: it possible? Is that could kind of clogged on the

618
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: other side of it, like the block of it, and

619
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Speaker 1: cause any problems? Well? Can you can you take up um?

620
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: Not likely? I mean, listen, it depends on how badly

621
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: it's corroded. You know. Why don't we try this. Let's

622
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: let's go through testing the wires first, like I'm talking,

623
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: and the last thing is what the sensors connected. You

624
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: should see that volts voltage signal dropped to about a

625
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: vault and a half. Let's do that. So let's do this.

626
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Let's call this a functional test. Let's go through this

627
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: first and when you when you come up with those

628
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: exact numbers and it's work, then we'll talk a little

629
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: bit further about possibilities with cooling. Is that a deal? Yeah, okay,

630
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Stay on the phone. I know

631
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: you got one more part to your question. Matt. The

632
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: clock is gonna take me here for a second. Let

633
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: me pull over and do this thing. And I'll finish

634
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: up with you at the top of the hour. Ronading

635
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: the card doctor eight zero coming back right after this,

636
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: m Ron and Adian, welcome back. When a naming of

637
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: the car Doctus back to Matt and Columbus, Ohio. Matt,

638
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: you're there, sir, Yes, sir. You had a front suspension question. Matt, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: only turn sharp left or right. I hear a loud

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Speaker 1: metallic popping the clean noise? Have you and I've had

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00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: to have the ball joint the ball joints out do

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00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: not to be any play in the hip at Looking

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Speaker 1: at the coil springs, um, I don't see any. I

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00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: didn't get any rubber buffers from the top or bottom

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00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: of the coil springs that I started thinking probably that

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00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: could watch somebody stall doing They didn't put the rubber

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00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: seals on them. Yeah, if they're new springs, there's there there.

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Speaker 1: If memory shows me correct, I believe on the top

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Speaker 1: there was a rubber pad that the spring sat against.

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Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this. Have you looked at

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Speaker 1: you must be aware that there is you know, the

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Speaker 1: stop turn or the turn stopped down at the bottom.

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00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: It's built into the control arms. So when the spindle

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00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: cranks all the way to one side or the other,

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00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: it hits the control arm that's the physical stop. And

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Speaker 1: if you're doing this out of a driveway, the trick

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00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: would be that you'd go down the driveway, you'd make

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00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: the turn and it would hit the stop and because

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00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: it would drag the metal across that that played at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the control arm. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking Do you know the area of the car

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00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the front suspension. I know the part

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Speaker 1: you're talking about because I saw them on a parts

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Speaker 1: list but looks online and I didn't even look on

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00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: them on the actual car. Though I didn't think too

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: much because after market didn't really Yeah, they they should

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00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: be greased, you know, back in the old days when

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: we greased things and changed oil and went through front

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: suspensions as part of an oil change. You just take

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00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: a dab of wheel bearing or have a yellow grease

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00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: and grease that stop and it will prevent it from

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00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: dragging and making loud metallic noise. As the as you're

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00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: turning the wheel on a hard left or right turned

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Speaker 1: this could be the stops that's making the noise too.

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Speaker 1: So take a look at that. Matt I'm Marn eating

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Speaker 1: the car. Doctor. Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you