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Speaker 3: I could do this very very quickly. Kamala Harris won

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Speaker 3: This is really the crux of the issue. The Democrats

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's bring our panel back in to discuss

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Speaker 1: something that I've never thought i'd see, the day where

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Speaker 3: First, taxes are bad. Now, all right, cool, welcome to

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Speaker 4: In on your business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, the sane speak like that is not welcome

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Speaker 1: to if you enforce the freaking law in your state.

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Speaker 1: A lot of great points. Per really appreciate your insight there.

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Speaker 1: I would love to get your insight on Lee Zelden,

437
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Speaker 1: the head of the EPA, rolling back a lot of

438
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Speaker 1: the restrictions. EPA stands for Environment Protection Agency, which Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk says, well, the Employment Prevention Agency is also what

440
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Speaker 1: it could stand for, because they have been pointing to

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Speaker 1: things like the two thousand and nine Endangerment Finding finding

442
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Speaker 1: that refers to a bunch of the different EPA findings

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Speaker 1: regarding clean air that has obviously led to a huge

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Speaker 1: amount of restrictions and red tape for US companies all

445
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Speaker 1: over the place, which obviously limit and impede employers from

446
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Speaker 1: hiring people to do jobs that the company would like

447
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Speaker 1: to hire people to do jobs for, including doling out

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money. There was a story a couple

449
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago that a NGO, a nonprofit that was

450
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Speaker 1: involved with Stacy Abrams, got two billion dollars from the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration after having only received one hundred dollars the

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Speaker 1: year prior to that. Basically, Leez Elden is saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're kind of doing what Dose is doing, where we're

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Speaker 1: cleaning up a bunch of the waste, but we're also

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Speaker 1: going to eliminate a bunch of red tape. How welcome

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Speaker 1: of an operation do you think that'll be for the

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Speaker 1: American people, Chris?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it depends on what side of

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Speaker 4: the aisle you're on.

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Speaker 3: Right, the leftists will have an absolute hissy fit over it,

461
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Speaker 3: and conservatives will say promises made, promises kept. But I

462
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Speaker 3: mean the reality of it is, this is what we

463
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Speaker 3: campaigned on, less regulation, less government oversight, less government overreach,

464
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Speaker 3: and that's what lese Elden is doing at the EPA.

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Speaker 3: Every time the topic of climate change comes up, you

466
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Speaker 3: could just point to two countries, India and China, and

467
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Speaker 3: say what about them? And why are we limiting our

468
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Speaker 3: country when we're actually doing a pretty good job. I

469
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Speaker 3: don't know if you've looked around lately, but Los Angeles

470
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Speaker 3: is actually pretty nice. We don't have this smog that

471
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Speaker 3: they had back in the days. And I say pretty nice.

472
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Speaker 3: Ignore the poop on the streets and the beatles. But

473
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Speaker 3: but if you look up, if you look up, it's

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Speaker 3: actually it's not as bad as it once was. And

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Speaker 3: you can point to so many different areas and say

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Speaker 3: the exact same thing, whether it's in Appalachia or Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Promises made, promises kept. We got to re re rein

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Speaker 3: in some of this regulation, and that's what Lee Zelden

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Speaker 3: is doing. And I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think A big thing with conservatives too myself in

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Speaker 1: a huge part is I don't hate the environment. I

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Speaker 1: love the environment. I would like to keep the environment

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Speaker 1: as clean as possible. But the problem is the EPA

485
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Speaker 1: is not actually doing that. Instead they're doling out money.

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Speaker 1: IVY you know, is that is that true on your end?

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Speaker 1: Because like again, conservatives like the environment, we want to

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Speaker 1: conserve the environment, but the EPA just hasn't been doing that.

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Speaker 1: That's not the the lane that they've picked. Instead, they're

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Speaker 1: just doling out money. And I don't know, do you

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Speaker 1: think the American people are gonnaining that stuff in.

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Speaker 5: Well, like Chris said, it depends what side of the

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Speaker 5: aisle you're on.

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Speaker 2: If you're our team, just.

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Speaker 5: Throw money at it and then we can check that

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Speaker 5: off the list. As long as we throw money and

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Speaker 5: call it environmental protection, then I'm doing my job. So

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Speaker 5: people who are for that are going to be upset

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Speaker 5: by this. But I love what he's doing. I think

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Speaker 5: that cleaning it up and cutting you know, just cutting

501
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Speaker 5: all the waste and stop stopping pretending, stopping the pretending

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Speaker 5: of well, this is going to the environment. That's not

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Speaker 5: what's going on. You look into each of these bills

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Speaker 5: and how much money and where the money is actually going,

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Speaker 5: and how much of it is actually going to the environment.

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Speaker 5: It's not what you think. Again, it is just like

507
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Speaker 5: pup plan parenthood. It's like MPR. You need to dig

508
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Speaker 5: in deeper. It isn't just what they're saying. And so

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Speaker 5: I think he's doing a good job of digging deeper,

510
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Speaker 5: cleaning it up, and that is exactly what a lot

511
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Speaker 5: of us voted for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say I personally love the fact that

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Speaker 1: they're gutting the EPA and not doling out free money.

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Speaker 1: But but there is a small part of me that

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Speaker 1: if a Lib president gets back into power and the

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Speaker 1: EPA starts doling out money again, I may want to

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Speaker 1: start Joe Bob's Clean Air Facility, in which I build

518
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Speaker 1: the government one billion dollars to clean up the air

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Speaker 1: inside my studio. Yeah, yeah, I'll send him an invoice.

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Speaker 1: I've you Vandus and Chris Hann thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us today. Really appreciate the insight and the commentary.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Coming up next on turning Point tonight,

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Speaker 1: we've got an amazing clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast.

525
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss it. And also segment

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Speaker 1: after that, we're gonna read some emails, have some fun,

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Speaker 1: look at some Instagram reels, tiktoks, whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. Don't go away. All that more coming up next,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: True or false.

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Speaker 7: Some people are just over wait because they're big boned false.

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Speaker 8: I was big boned as a kid. I was a

533
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Speaker 8: chubby kid growing up, And yeah, that is that is false.

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Speaker 8: You had another guest here.

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Speaker 2: Justin Gelband.

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Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, I totally agree with him in the sense

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Speaker 8: that you do have to treat your body according to

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Speaker 8: your body. You can't just do what everybody else is

539
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Speaker 8: doing and be like, well, I'm supposed to see the

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Speaker 8: same I did that right. So on my fitness journey,

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Speaker 8: I started off and I'm like in Flex magazine, I'm

542
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Speaker 8: seeing what Jay Cutler is doing. I'm on YouTube, I'm

543
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Speaker 8: asking the guy in the gym what should I be doing?

544
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Speaker 8: And I'm doing what everybody else is doing. You know

545
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Speaker 8: what I actually got in shape when I actually started

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Speaker 8: thinking about like what my body felt after I ate meals,

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Speaker 8: and like how my body responded when I did more

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Speaker 8: cardio versus less cardio, and like how I felt when

549
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Speaker 8: I got good sleep versus not good sleep, and you know, hydration.

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Speaker 8: I started thinking about what is my body. I started

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Speaker 8: listening to my body. That's when things changed for me,

552
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Speaker 8: instead of listening to everybody and their mother then on top.

553
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Speaker 8: Then it got solidified because I went back and forth,

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Speaker 8: it got solidified when I place Christ to the center

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Speaker 8: of Yeah, it really just takes you figuring out your

556
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Speaker 8: body and you know you can get help with that,

557
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Speaker 8: but you got to do it.

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Speaker 7: Is counting carbs, macros or calories a sure far away

559
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Speaker 7: to lose weight.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it's a surefire way to lose weight. Like,

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Speaker 8: it definitely helps to be aware of how much you're

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Speaker 8: taking in the balance of your macro nutrients, for sure,

563
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Speaker 8: because you could easily just overindulge on carbs and fats

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Speaker 8: and stuff like that. So I think most folks today

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Speaker 8: it is helpful to do it short term. And you know,

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Speaker 8: as a coach, I have people do this for periods

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Speaker 8: of time throughout their process with us because I loved

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Speaker 8: calorie tracking for the sense of the awareness that it

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Speaker 8: brings to a person. That being said, I don't think

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Speaker 8: it's a healthy thing to do long term, right, So

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Speaker 8: this is where you get folks that like they obsessed

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Speaker 8: over the numbers, and I'm just thinking about the whole person.

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Speaker 8: God wants you wholly, doesn't necessarily need you skinny. So like,

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Speaker 8: obsessing over those types of numbers can really ruin your

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Speaker 8: relationship with food and in terms of wholeness. I think

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Speaker 8: you got to have a good relationship with food. If

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Speaker 8: this is going to be something that, like, if you're

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Speaker 8: going to be healthy twenty years from now versus just

579
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Speaker 8: in the next six months you've got your beach body,

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Speaker 8: then we need to work on your overall relationship with food.

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Speaker 8: So I'm kind of going beyond your questions. Yeah, and

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Speaker 8: absolutely can help with you losing weight. And I have

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Speaker 8: used calory tracking on and off throughout my years in

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Speaker 8: this industry. That being said, I think you should use

585
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Speaker 8: it the right way, and you know, just be careful

586
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Speaker 8: not to go too far with macro and calorie tracking.

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Speaker 7: When I think about the American Church, I think about

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Speaker 7: all of the different activities and events that are built

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Speaker 7: around food, from the food that we're giving families right

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Speaker 7: before service starts, to whatever's being served at youth group,

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Speaker 7: small group food being served, whatever we're giving toddlers in

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Speaker 7: the nursery in Sunday school class, all of these different things.

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Speaker 7: What does food look like in the American Church currently

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Speaker 7: and what should it look like?

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Speaker 8: Well, it looks like America, like largely right, Like we

596
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Speaker 8: were instructed not to conform to the patterns of this world.

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Speaker 8: What we have in many ways. When it comes to nutrition,

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Speaker 8: we have right and so we see a lot of

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Speaker 8: fried food, We see a lot of you know, just

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Speaker 8: junk food. And the youth events, it's always pizza and

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Speaker 8: you know, chips and soda and stuff like that. At

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Speaker 8: our lockins and even sometimes in the nursery it's just

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Speaker 8: whatever we'll get the kids to be quiet, you know.

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Speaker 8: But if it really should look like we represent the

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Speaker 8: Kingdom of Heaven, it should look more like the Garden

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Speaker 8: of Eden and what he instructed Noah to do. So

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Speaker 8: we should see more whole food items. You know, put

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Speaker 8: out the donuts and people like, we have donuts the

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Speaker 8: beginning of every service. Fine have donuts, but also have

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Speaker 8: oranges and apples, Like, at least get people the option

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Speaker 8: I'm going to have a donut periodically.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to say that I never ever ever

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Speaker 8: have anything. And I think that's like where people get

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Speaker 8: into like legalism with this. I have two little kids.

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Speaker 8: I've got almost twelve year old and my daughter is

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Speaker 8: going to be ten this month. Every once in a while,

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Speaker 8: we're having ice cream.

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Speaker 7: Come on, man, guess what ice cream can be a

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Speaker 7: health food? You look at the ingredients if it is

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Speaker 7: just you know, milk and cream or and honey or whatever,

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Speaker 7: a little real shit ever.

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Speaker 8: To make it in school and elementary, yes, it was

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Speaker 8: so great with the ice bag and the saw and

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Speaker 8: like that was good. It was just cream and like

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Speaker 8: cane sugar and vanilla.

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Speaker 1: Extract like good.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 8: I think in the church we should have multiple options,

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Speaker 8: and I think the majority of our food should look

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Speaker 8: like our lifestyle should look.

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Speaker 1: Which is that eighty.

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Speaker 8: Twenty ninety ten mentality of most of the time, I'm

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Speaker 8: eating what God created because it's what God wanted me

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Speaker 8: to be eating.

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Speaker 7: Everybody that thinks they're eighty twenty are really probably like

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Speaker 7: sixty forty or.

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Speaker 9: Fifty fifty or fifty fifty or worse.

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Speaker 8: D Most folks that are like trying to live a

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Speaker 8: balanced lifestyle are kind of saying they're saying that kind

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Speaker 8: of justifying the fact that, like they don't really keep

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Speaker 8: a track of what they're doing, but generally in their

643
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Speaker 8: minds are healthy. But it's like twelve years of coaching

644
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Speaker 8: folks forget what they snacked on, Folks for the exact

645
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Speaker 8: left and right, and then you have the conversation like, well,

646
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Speaker 8: I did have this and then oh well yeah, and

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Speaker 8: like you know, it's like.

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Speaker 7: Okay, some Christians believe that suffering and that includes with

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Speaker 7: health issues is part of God's plan or a test

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Speaker 7: of faith. So what do you say to those people?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's like a sketicism, like you suffering physically, And

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Speaker 8: that's what he was talking about in First Timothy four

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Speaker 8: to eight, like physical training is of some value, but

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Speaker 8: goudiance is the value for all things.

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Speaker 1: There were a group of people.

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Speaker 8: Who thought, like if I just put my body under

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Speaker 8: torture and suffering and don't eat and do all these things,

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Speaker 8: that's a way I can get closer to God. We

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Speaker 8: are saved by grace through faith in Christ alone, and

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Speaker 8: so we're not going to work our way closer to

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Speaker 8: God or work our way into being more righteous. We're

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Speaker 8: made righteous through Jesus.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 8: And so physically, it's not a whole lot you can

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Speaker 8: do to make yourself righteous or more righteous, because our

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Speaker 8: good works are as filthy rags.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 8: That being said, you can live intentionally to be a

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Speaker 8: better vessel for the works God has given you to do.

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Speaker 8: So you know how I think about that. I do

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Speaker 8: not think that you should approach health and fitness as

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Speaker 8: this rule that you've set so that you can bring

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Speaker 8: yourself to a higher state of righteousness, holiness. These are

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Speaker 8: all things that come through Christ and with God. And

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Speaker 8: at the end of the day, the way that you

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Speaker 8: treat your body just needs to represent your devotion to God.

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Speaker 8: That's it. That's all this is about. This needs to

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Speaker 8: represent my devotion to God for me, my relationship with Him.

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Speaker 8: And then also because of my I have an impact

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Speaker 8: as an ambassador for Christ as a city on a hill. Rightly,

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Speaker 8: we have a responsibility on this earth, whether we are

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Speaker 8: we categorize ourselves as introverted or whatever it is you

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Speaker 8: are as a believer now a disciple of Christ. Like

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Speaker 8: whatever you had going on prior to it's kind of irrelevant.

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Speaker 8: You are now called to be that gospel sharing witness

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Speaker 8: representation for the Kingdom of heaven.

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Speaker 7: Do you think somebody who is struggling with being physically

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Speaker 7: healthy it could hurt their witness? Is that we're insinuating

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Speaker 7: that is exactly what I'm in sin.

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Speaker 8: Yes, And and I say this not assumptively. I'm saying

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Speaker 8: this from the side of talking to non believers of like,

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Speaker 8: how can I listen to you and you're telling me

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Speaker 8: this and that, but like you clearly don't even care

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Speaker 8: about yourself. Like you're talking about like you serve God

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Speaker 8: and all that, but like like you're a glutton. Like

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Speaker 8: I have a friend who's like going through the process

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Speaker 8: and whatnot, and he had a kiosk in one of

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Speaker 8: the malls where he's selling like shirts and all, you know,

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Speaker 8: just Christian things, and person walked up and was like, dude, like,

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Speaker 8: how can I like take you seriously?

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Speaker 5: Bro?

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Speaker 8: Like, look at you, Like you're just as bound up

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Speaker 8: as everybody else.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to hear.

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Speaker 8: It's hard to hear, and it's not right, Like that's

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Speaker 8: very shallow. Like I have amazing brothers and sisters in

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Speaker 8: the Lord who truly love Jesus Christ and are doing

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Speaker 8: a great work for him, but they're not physically where

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Speaker 8: they should be because of like their lifestyle and and whatnot.

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Speaker 7: You know, think about you know, the pastor who's great

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Speaker 7: and his wife's great and all that, but then their

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Speaker 7: kids are a mess. You know, the kids are out

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Speaker 7: partying drug addicts and like, why what's going on in

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Speaker 7: the house. He's obviously plugged into church and leading his congregation,

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Speaker 7: but he's not leading his own family times but now, and.

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Speaker 8: That's in scripture, Like that's the qualifications of an elder,

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Speaker 8: Like he must be a good leader. He has to

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Speaker 8: be able to manage his own home, Yeah, is what

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Speaker 8: the scripture says. So yeah, like people do look at

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Speaker 8: our life and they say like, okay, well you've got

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Speaker 8: these parts straight, but like are you doing something about this?

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Speaker 1: And like there's nothing.

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Speaker 8: Wrong with being overweight or struggling in that way if

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Speaker 8: you're doing something about it, Like you don't have to

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Speaker 8: have a six pack to be honoring God, right, Like

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Speaker 8: he doesn't care about whether you have ablines or snatched wastes.

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Speaker 1: Or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 8: But God does want you living in a way that

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Speaker 8: it like if somebody were to imitate your life, they

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Speaker 8: would be in a good place mentally, spiritually, and physically

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Speaker 8: five years from now. Like when I think of Paul

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Speaker 8: saying follow me as I follow Christ, the great mindset

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Speaker 8: to take on is if somebody were to imitate my

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Speaker 8: life the way I live it now, where would they

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Speaker 8: be next year physically, mentally, in spiritually, wherever they be

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Speaker 8: in five years, wherever they be in ten years. If

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Speaker 8: somebody were to actually be discipled by me, and like

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Speaker 8: that's what discipleship looked like. These twelve followed Christ.

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Speaker 1: And they did what he did.

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Speaker 8: They imitated him, right, and then they became the people

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Speaker 8: that others imitated. And now we're supposed to do the

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Speaker 8: same thing. Like that's each one teach one like you

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Speaker 8: keep This is how the church has grown over the years,

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Speaker 8: is that we disciple others. We follow Christ and then

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Speaker 8: folks follow us, and then we introduce them to Him

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Speaker 8: and then they do the same thing for other people. Well,

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Speaker 8: the way that I live my life, I can't be

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Speaker 8: conformed to the world in any way. I can't be

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Speaker 8: like prone to to binge watching Netflix, because if you

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Speaker 8: were to imitate my life, then you might see you

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Speaker 8: might find justification in that. And instead of doing things

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Speaker 8: for the kingdom, spending more time with your family, I'm

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Speaker 8: like stuck on football all Sunday instead of like discipling

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Speaker 8: my kids. Or I'm over eating oreos at the end

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Speaker 8: of dinner because I have to have something sweet and

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Speaker 8: then my family's following along with that. Like I need

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Speaker 8: to make sure that I'm being a good disciple and

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Speaker 8: a representative because I do have a responsibility to witness

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Speaker 8: and demonstrate that for other people.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where we are charting

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Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. My name is job

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for sticking with us. Remember you can

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Speaker 1: always email the show TPT at tpusa dot com. Glenn,

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Speaker 1: our producer, reads every single line of every single email,

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Speaker 1: so send that email to TUT at tpusa dot com.

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Speaker 1: We have a nice one today from Irene. Irene said, Jobob.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you I'm seventy two years old

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Speaker 1: and now that you guys have taken over the ten

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Speaker 1: PM slots, I stay up every night and watch you

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Speaker 1: and Charlie after. Irene really appreciate you, you know, doing that.

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Speaker 1: We love doing the show for you and really appreciate

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Speaker 1: the nice note. There's several people that have emailed some

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Speaker 1: very gross and disgusting things, and maybe we'll read tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But again Glenn goes through every single one of them

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Speaker 1: TPT at tpusa dot com. But without further ado, it

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Speaker 1: is Wednesday, which means today is woke Wednesday. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: that we love more than making fun of it, mocking

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Speaker 1: the woke. Uh you know this is this is actually

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Speaker 1: this is actually very difficult to present to you, but

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Speaker 1: we are on Nazi alert. We have another clear Nazi,

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Speaker 1: uh judging by this photo, go ahead and click that

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Speaker 1: first graphic. This clearly is a Jasmin Crockett, the congresswoman

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Speaker 1: from the Lib side of the aisle, clearly doing a

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Speaker 1: Nazi salute. Therefore, she is in fact a Nazi. No

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Speaker 1: questions asked, no context whatsoever. That's, of course the standards

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Speaker 1: that the Left uses. So just want to alert all

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Speaker 1: of you find folks that well, this clearly is a

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Speaker 1: National Socialist which interestingly enough funny words that are used there,

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Speaker 1: but clearly a Nazi. No other reason why anyone would

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Speaker 1: be doing that with their hand. Excuse me, continuing on

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Speaker 1: with Wednesday. I you know, there's so much that we

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Speaker 1: want to play. It's some of it is just so

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Speaker 1: weird and just if you're squeamish, I guess don't close

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Speaker 1: your eyes, but go ahead and play clip too on

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Speaker 1: woke Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Haying my fellow ladies out there, So men think they

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Speaker 4: own own you take it from somebody that used to

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Speaker 4: be a man.

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Speaker 1: You got boobed, you got a a JJ. Guess what, honey,

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Speaker 1: you own them? Trust me?

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Speaker 4: They want it, make them own it, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I no comet it. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: the being a married man, there is some truth to

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Speaker 1: the message there, maybe not the right messenger, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how often that dude is well approached,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, in that way. Man,

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Speaker 1: But what happened to the menstal institution institutions? Maybe we

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Speaker 1: need to bring this back. Here's another woke Wednesday, or

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Speaker 1: we leave you tonight. Go ahead and play that last clip.

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Speaker 9: Women, when we do the same diets as white women,

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Speaker 9: we lose less weight, and we lose it slower.

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Speaker 1: The racism that you're experiencing and the struggle to make and.

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Speaker 6: Meet actually means the diet don't work for.

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Speaker 1: You to say, I don't know if that was our

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Speaker 1: team that clicked that confused little kid in there, Like,

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Speaker 1: what in the world are you talking about? Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: calories are racist. The diet doesn't work exactly the same

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Speaker 1: for all races. I guess then it's racist. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if you eat less calories, you will lose weight. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what race you are. Kind of a just

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Speaker 1: a scientific fact, especially talking to the crowd that loves

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Speaker 1: the science. We gotta trust the science. Well, trust that science.

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Speaker 1: Less calories equals less weight gain. It doesn't really matter

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Speaker 1: what your skin color is, but that's going to do

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Speaker 1: us for us here at turning Points. And I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you sticking around tuning in. Remember you can email

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Speaker 1: the show anytime TBT at TPUSA dot com. Stick around.

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Speaker 1: Charlie's going to take us out of this episode. And

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Speaker 1: then you see the re air of the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow, same time, same place. God

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Speaker 1: bless America.

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Speaker 9: For those of you that have not been closely paying

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Speaker 9: attention to the news over the weekend, there was a

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Speaker 9: military strike against the Hooties in Yemen. It is part

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Speaker 9: of the ongoing Yemeny civil war, a Saudi proxy war.

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Speaker 9: President Donald Trump authorized a military strike and now we

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Speaker 9: have learned more and more about the background.

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Speaker 1: This is an.

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Speaker 9: Ongoing story and it gets more and more suspicious and

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Speaker 9: urgent the deeper we dive into it. We have new

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Speaker 9: signal text messages from the Atlantic, and of course the

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Speaker 9: big story is how did the editor in chief of

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Speaker 9: the Atlantic magazine, the anti Trump hoax peddling Atlantic magazine,

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Speaker 9: how did he end up in a very private discussion

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Speaker 9: with the Secretary of Defense with the Director of National Intelligence.

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Speaker 9: How did that happen? Well, first, I want to read

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Speaker 9: all the new text messages that we have. I want

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Speaker 9: to read all of them piece by piece, and you

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Speaker 9: can be the judge of whether or not this is

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Speaker 9: war plans attack plans. So this is from Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 9: These are some new signal messages. Team update time now

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Speaker 9: eleven forty four eastern. Whether is favorable? Just confirmed with

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Speaker 9: scent come, we are a go for mission launch twelve

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Speaker 9: fifteen eastern. F eighteen's launch first strike package thirteen forty

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Speaker 9: five trigger based F eighteen first strike window starts target

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Speaker 9: terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.

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Speaker 9: Also strike drones launch. Now let me just pause. I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna say the obvious that Jeffrey Goldberg, being involved in

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Speaker 9: this group chat seeing this, had a little bit of

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Speaker 9: a heads up that a military strike was going to happen. Thankfully,

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Speaker 9: this could have been a lot worse. That it could

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Speaker 9: have been somebody that would have live tweeted and potentially

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Speaker 9: thwarted a military operation. Thankfully that did not happen. Fourteen

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Speaker 9: ten more, IF eighteen's launch second strike package fourteen to

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Speaker 9: fifteen strike drones on target. This is when the first

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Speaker 9: bombs will definitely drop, pending earlier trigger based targets fifteen

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Speaker 9: thirty six F eighteen. Second strike starts also first, and

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Speaker 9: that message cuts off. Michael Waltz writes in the group,

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Speaker 9: Chatty continues, Team, you should have a statement of conclusions

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Speaker 9: with taskings per the President's guidance this morning in your

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Speaker 9: high side inboxes State and DoD, we developed suggested notification

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Speaker 9: list for regional allies and partners. Joint Staff is sending

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Speaker 9: this AM a more specific sequence of events in the

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Speaker 9: coming days, and we will work with DoD to ensure

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Speaker 9: Chief of Staff, the Office of the Vice President, and

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Speaker 9: POTUS are briefed. Jade Vance responds here, Team, I am

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Speaker 9: out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan,

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Speaker 9: but I think we are making a mistake. Three percent

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Speaker 9: of US trade runs to the Suez, forty percent of

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Speaker 9: the European trade does. This is a real risk. The

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Speaker 9: public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary. The strongest

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Speaker 9: reason to do this, as potas said, is to send

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Speaker 9: a message, but I'm not sure the President is aware

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Speaker 9: how inconsistent this is with the message on Europe right now,

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Speaker 9: there's a further risk that we see a moderate to

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Speaker 9: severe spike and oil prices. I'm willing to support the

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Speaker 9: consents to the team and keep these concerns to myself,

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Speaker 9: but there's a strong argument for delaying this a month,

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Speaker 9: doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where

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Speaker 9: the economy is, et cetera. Pete Heseth responds, but we

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Speaker 9: can easily pause, and if we do, I will do

892
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Speaker 9: all we can to enforce one hundred percent OPSEC operational security.

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Speaker 9: I welcome other thoughts. Michael Waltz responds the JD Vans

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Speaker 9: and says, the trade figures we have are fifteen percent

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Speaker 9: of global and thirty percent of container. It's difficult to

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Speaker 9: break down to the United States specifically because much of

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Speaker 9: the container either going through the Red Sea still or

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Speaker 9: around the Cape of Good Hope, are components going to

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Speaker 9: Europe that turns in manufactured goods for transatlantic trade to

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Speaker 9: the United States. Whether we pull the plug or not, today,

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Speaker 9: European navies do not have the capacit capability to defend

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Speaker 9: a against the types of sophisticated anti ship cruise missiles

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Speaker 9: and drones. The houties are now using, So whether it's

904
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Speaker 9: now or several weeks from now, it'll have to be

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Speaker 9: the United States that reopens the shipping lanes for the

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Speaker 9: President's request. We are working with DoD and State to

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Speaker 9: determine how to compile the costs associated and level levy

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Speaker 9: them on the Europeans. Michael Waltz then added Stephen Miller

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Speaker 9: to the chat. Very important. We only have evidence of

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Speaker 9: Michael Waltz adding people to the chat. As we stated

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Speaker 9: in the first PC, we have a fundamental decision of

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Speaker 9: allowing the sea lanes to remain closed or to reopen

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Speaker 9: them now or later. We are the only ones with capability. Unfortunately,

914
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Speaker 9: from a messaging standpoint, we absolutely add this to the

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Speaker 9: horribles on why the Europeans must invest in their own defense.

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Speaker 9: The last of the chat that we have from the

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Speaker 9: Atlantic continues from Joe Kent. There's nothing time sensitive driving

918
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Speaker 9: this timeline. We'll have the exact same options in a month.

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Speaker 9: The Israelis will likely take strike and therefore ask us

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Speaker 9: for more support to replenish whatever they use against the huties,

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Speaker 9: but that's a minor factor. I will send you the

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Speaker 9: unclassified data we pulled on bam shipping. John Ratcliffe then

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Speaker 9: chimes in from the CIA perspective, we are mobilizing assets

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Speaker 9: to support now, but a delay would not negatively impact us,

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Speaker 9: or additional time would be used to identify better starting

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Speaker 9: points for coverage. On Huti's leadership, Pete Hegseth says, quote

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Speaker 9: Vice President JD. I understand your concerns and fully support

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Speaker 9: you raising with potus important considerations, most of which are

929
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Speaker 9: tough to know how they play out, Economy, Ukraine, piece, gods,

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Speaker 9: et cetera. I think messaging is going to be tough

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Speaker 9: no matter what, no matter who knows. Nobody knows who

932
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Speaker 9: the uties are, which is why we would need to

933
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Speaker 9: stay focused on Biden failed and around funded. Waiting a

934
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Speaker 9: few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus.

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Speaker 9: Two immediate risks on waiting. One this leaks and we

936
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Speaker 9: look indecisive to Israel takes action first or Gaza ceasefire

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Speaker 9: falls apart. Then we don't get to start this on

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Speaker 9: our own terms. We can manage both. We are prepared

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Speaker 9: to execute, and if I had a final go or

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Speaker 9: no go vote, I believe we should. This is not

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Speaker 9: about the hooties I see it as two things, restoring

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Speaker 9: freedom of navigation a core national interest, and re establishing deterrence,

943
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Speaker 9: which Biden cratered. Okay, that is the latest messages out

944
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Speaker 9: of the Atlantic. The Atlantic never should have had eyes

945
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Speaker 9: on this, and we are still trying to figure out

946
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Speaker 9: exactly how on earth this occurred. And I want to

947
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Speaker 9: reiterate what I said yesterday on the program. Behind the Curtain,

948
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Speaker 9: we see a robust, open debate. We see that Jade

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Speaker 9: Vance is actually America first behind closed doors as he

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Speaker 9: is in public. That is refreshing, that is authentic. That

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Speaker 9: is a good thing to see, but it does leave

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Speaker 9: us with a more fundamental question, how did this happen?

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Speaker 7: Then being