1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from house 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm Holly Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. And Tracy 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: have a question for you. Sure when you were a kid, 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: did you love the freebees that came in cereal? Well, 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: my mother had very strong opinions on which cereals were appropriate, 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: so many of the cereals that were sold with toys 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: and them were not also serials we were allowed to eat. Ah. 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: That makes me so sad. So in case some of 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: our listeners do not know, sometimes cereal, particularly serial aimed 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: at kids, will sometimes come with a toy or another 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: novelty item in the box as part of like a 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: marketing promotion to boost sales. And I live for that 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: stuff as a kid, and I might still live for 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: that stuff as an adult. Uh. My husband and I 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of crazy things and toys, and like, 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: you put a Star Wars pen in a box and 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: we'll be eating that cereal for however long it takes 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: to get all the pens. But this is not a 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: new concept. Pretty early from about the middle of the 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: twentieth century onward, the serial Wars sort of really started 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: to heat up in different promotions were tried to outdo 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: one another, and at one point in the mid twentieth century, 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: one very famous company had a very wacky plan to 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: actually dole out land deeds as part of a serial promotion, 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to talk about today. Sergeant 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Preston of the Yukon was a radio show from the 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: fifties and then it made this transition into television. It 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: started actor Dick Simmons as the sergeant, and the radio 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: version had featured voice actor Paul Sutton. There was also 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: a husky dog named Yukon King and a trusty horse 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: named Rex, and the show's exploits were usually about exciting adventures, 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: most commonly with the Sergeant of the Royal Canadian Mounted 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Police taking his team of sleds through the Yukon in 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: pursuit of some bad guys. The TV series ran on 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: CBS TV from nineteen fifty five to nineteen fifty eight 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: and it was sponsored by Kuwaker Oats. So the actual 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: attribution of who had this idea for this extremely novel 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: promotion is a little bit fuzzy because different versions of 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: the story credit different people. In some versions. Ad executive 41 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Bobby Smith came up with the idea. For example, his 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: biography credits him. Uh, sometimes it said that it's actually 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: Smith's son who gave him the idea, and then yet 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: other tellings of the tale it was a last minute 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: bolt of inspiration to addmin Bruce Baker, who was a 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: partner at ad firm Werry, Baker and Tilden, which is 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: where Bobby Smith works. So they're all kind of linked together. 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: But it's not. There's not entirely um one version of 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the story that's consistently told. There's always a little bit 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: of wiggle in them. We do know that one of 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: these Chicago admin came up with the brainchild of offering 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: lay end deeds in cereal boxes. The previous ad campaign, 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: which they stated that the grains had been fired from guns, 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: was really no longer doing it for people. The idea 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: of guns firing the cereal was no longer appealing. Yeah, 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: and that that is actually uh, that ad campaign is 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of based in the chemistry of how the the 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: puffed wheat and puffed rice came to be made in 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: their puff form. But uh, the other thing that Quaker 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: was really having to deal with was that other cereal 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: companies were cranking up their own ad campaigns, and they 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: were adding sugar to the cereal, which is something that 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the Quaker company was not in favor of. And they 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: had these bounty cartoony mascots to try to appeal to kids. So, 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: for example, Tony the Tiger, which lives on today and 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: we all recognize, had debuted in the early nineteen fifties 67 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: and Kellogg's frosted flakes had become increasingly popular with kid consumers. 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: That part is really funny to me because if you've 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: heard our episode about John Harvey Long, you know he 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: was also not in favor of the sugar in the cereals. Yeah, 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: he lost control of that one. They have this in 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: common with my mom and a piece written for Canadian 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: magazine in the nineteen seventies by Jack McIvor. Baker is 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: the hero of this piece, racking his brain in a 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: bathroom at three o'clock in the morning to try to 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: come up with some way to salvage the Quaker account. Yeah. 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: I feel compelled to mention that I could not put 78 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: my hands on an official full text copy of this article. Uh, 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: it's reprinted sometimes an edited form by multiple tourism groups 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: in Canada, and I did find a citation for it, 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: so we know it existed, UH, but I never actually 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: got the full text document from the official UH magazine, 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: So just know that going forward. I just wanted to 84 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: acknowledge if you go looking at the show notes and 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: you go, hey, I never found this real article. That's 86 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: why Baker was interviewed for the piece, and he said 87 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: that he had the idea for the giveaway while he 88 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: was under pressure to come up with something that was 89 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: cheap and moved cereal. Once he had the idea, he 90 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: took the five am train to Chicago, grabbed his art 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: director and whipped up a presentation which he said to 92 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: have delivered to Quaker at eleven a m. That same morning. 93 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: And the Quaker company had some trepidation about this whole 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: wacky scheme. They envisioned the whole campaign becoming this nightmare 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: of paperwork and expense as they tried to parcel out 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: millions of tiny pieces of land, particularly to children, and 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: sort of the legal issues surrounding all of that. They 98 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: really were just very hard to sell on this idea. 99 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: It was pretty much the only idea on the table though, 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: so to complete with all the sugar and all the 101 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: cartoon characters. Bruce Baker and one of Quakers executives flew 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to Yukon to scout out the possibility of actually bringing 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: this wild idea to reality. Yeah, they were going to 104 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: tie in that whole Canadian mount story into this, this 105 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: idea of giving away land. Uh. And so once Baker 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: and the Quaker executive landed in Canada, UH, they met 107 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: with a lawyer in white Horse, and things got a 108 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: little bit smoothed over at this point because the Canadian lawyer, 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: whose name was George Van Rogen, who incidentally went on 110 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: to become a senator in Canada. He advised that it 111 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: was not actually going to be necessary to register each 112 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: individual square inch that they intended to give away in 113 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: this promotion. That they could just sell it in one 114 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: large parcel and then they're just such tiny increments you 115 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: didn't even have to bother with all of that. Ben 116 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Rogen was delighted to be working on a novel project 117 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: instead of just drawing up people's wills and whatnot, So 118 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: he helped find a lot for the visiting Americans to 119 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: look at and to consider purchasing. So the men headed 120 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: to Dawson City, which was a gold rush town, and 121 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: then they traveled by boat upriver to inspect property in 122 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Kwondike and the plot of land that they specifically looked 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: at was a lot fort to forty three grouped you 124 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: and it was nineteen point one one acres UH. It 125 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: featured six hundred and forty feet of riverfront on the 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: west bank of the Yukon River, and it was one thousand, 127 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and one ft deep. And the Klondike Big 128 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: Inch Land Company Incorporated was eventually established for the purposes 129 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: of this promotion, and it is that company that paid 130 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: a whopping and one thousand dollars for this tract of land. 131 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: So once the land had been acquired, deeds were printed 132 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: in Each deed was on a seven by five inch 133 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: piece of paper and that made it thirty five times 134 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: larger than the actual land pieces that they represented. UH. 135 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: And the wording on these deeds was really carefully written 136 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: to be entirely legal. I believe um van Grog van 137 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Rogen did continue to help them with this since they 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: were working on, you know, legal issues both in Canada 139 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: and in the States where the promotion was going to happen. 140 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: And this was the reason that they put so much 141 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: effort into making sure every word on this piece of 142 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: paper was at written legally sound was allegedly because the 143 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: serial industry at this point had become really rather cutthroat, 144 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and they were really concerned that a competing company was 145 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: going to try to like just comb through all of 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: this uh copy that was on the document to find 147 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: any incongruity or any way to call foul on this 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Quaker Klondike project and consequently shut it down. The deeds 149 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: also made it clear that they did not come with 150 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: mineral rights to the land. Nobody wanted anybody to be 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: showing up looking to mind their one square inch of 152 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: land for gold. The owners of these tiny parcels also 153 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: had to allow for easement, which is accessed by other 154 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: people who might need to find their one inch plot. 155 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: So basically it made it so that the deed holders 156 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: property could be stepped on without legal recourse. On January seven, 157 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: this promotion began, and they ran ads, of course on 158 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the television show, but papers across the United States also 159 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: ran ads touting that purchase is of Quaker puffed wheat 160 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: or Quaker puffed rights could lead to the ownership of 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: actual Yukon land, and these tiny land grabbers could fill 162 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: out a form and they could send it in with 163 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: a box top, and in return they would receive one 164 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: of these deeds that have been so carefully uh compiled, 165 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: issued by the Klondike Big Inch Land Company, and that 166 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: entitled the holder to one square inch of Klondike land. 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: There was a whole lot of romance around the marketing 168 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: of all of this. The promotion copy touted in the 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: gold Rush. Men fought the wildest country on Earth and 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: the most savage of climates to get to the Klondike 171 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: where your land is. During the winter, the only way 172 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: to the gold fields was by mushing for a week 173 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: after week. The more fortunate were aided by dog teams 174 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: pulling sleds. No one knows how many brave men died 175 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: along the frozen Yukon River that runs past your land. 176 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: And there was also a map of the Yukon territory 177 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: in these ads, and it had this arrow that pointed 178 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: to a spot in the words indeed makes you owner 179 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: of land right here, which just delighted me and sent 180 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: me into fits of laughter when I saw it. Also 181 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: included was a brief description of how a lust for 182 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: gold had driven men into this wilderness hoping to strike 183 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: it rich. And there were heroic descriptions of the mounties 184 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: that patrolled this land and how they always get their man, 185 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: so that also tied in with the television show. Additional 186 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: wording included talk of the harsh cold, the dangerous grizzly 187 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: bears and wolves, and the moose and caribou that might 188 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: traps across your land. The phrase your land was consistently 189 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: used in all the promotional materials, drawing kids into the 190 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: sales push with this empowering language that sparked their young imaginations. 191 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: And it is no surprise that this campaign worked Like 192 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: gang Busters. Stores were actually having this problem where they 193 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: would sell out of their puffed cereal style each day, 194 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: and kids were begging their parents to purchase multiple boxes 195 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: so that they could grow their land holdings. And I 196 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: can't help but think of like kids lying on their 197 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: beds dreaming about the huge plots of territory they were 198 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: slowly amassing through these minuscule, little one inch deeds. And 199 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: the first month of the campaign, Quaker received tens of 200 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: thousands of box top requests. But then there was a 201 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: snag In February nineteen fifty five, just weeks after the 202 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: campaign had kicked off, the Ohio Securities division, Quaker had 203 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: a large operations center in Ohio, ruled that the company 204 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: could not legally trade a box top for a deed 205 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: to Yukon Land without a state license to sell fore 206 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: in territory. And so at this point the promotion was 207 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: really in full swing and it was already seeing incredible success, 208 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: and so Quaker did not want to shut this down. 209 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: So instead of halting the promotion and distribution so that 210 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: they could wait for a license to come um, the 211 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: company kind of managed a little loophole. They opted instead 212 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: to give away the deeds in the boxes. And because 213 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: this eliminated the exchange of the box top, which could 214 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: be perceived as a sales contract, and when it came 215 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: along with the filled out coupon, this made it perfectly legal. 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: It was a free giveaway, they weren't selling land, and 217 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: it meant that this promotion could just keep right ongoing 218 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: because it was so successful that they really did not 219 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: want to stop the momentum. All in all, Quaker, through 220 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: the Klondike Big inch Land Company, gave away twenty one 221 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: million deeds to Klondike property, and while the enthusiasm for 222 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Quaker Puff cereals and their gateway to property ownership was 223 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: still fresh in the minds of kids, there was actually 224 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: a second tie in promotion that came up because as 225 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: they were running out of their land deeds, they wanted 226 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: to kind of keep things going. So kids could then 227 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: mail in twenty five cents to UH the Klondike Big 228 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Inch Land Company and they would receive what was called 229 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: a small quote poke pouch of genuine Yukon dirt. UH 230 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: and Van Rogen was also involved in this as well. 231 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: He assisted in the acquisition of this dirt. He basically 232 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: had like a business acquaintance kind of sift up lands 233 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: um smooth sand from the bottom of the Yukon River, 234 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: and he made it clear like there couldn't be anything, 235 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: no pebbles in it, no um, nothing dangerous. It really 236 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: just had to be the cleanest possible sand. And then 237 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: they had to have this soil and sand truck to 238 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: Alaska because they couldn't mail it from Canada without a 239 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: lot of postal complications, so the postmark was actually from 240 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Alaska and not from UH Yukon Territory, but no one 241 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: seemed to mind. And in one interview, I noticed that 242 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: Van Rogen said, like, I think a lot of Americans 243 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: think Yukon is part of Alaska anyway, So nobody seemed 244 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: to notice that the postmark wasn't from the area where 245 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: they said that the dirt was coming from. Ten years 246 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: after the promotion, on January twenty second, nineteen sixty five, 247 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: the Klondike Big Inch Land Company was dissolved. The Canadian 248 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: government took possession of the land due to non payment 249 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: of thirty seven dollars and twenty cents worth of back taxes. Yeah, 250 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: that figure shows up in a lot of various sources, 251 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: although it never says where it's whether it's Canadian or 252 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: u s currency. Not that there's a huge issue at 253 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: that point anyway, It's such a small amount, and the 254 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Klondike Bigas Land Company had really just been maintained kind 255 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: of to deal with these various queries that people would 256 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: send periodically about their land. But it really after just 257 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: a few months of this big promotion, it had ended, 258 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't really they weren't continuing to give away 259 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: deeds after that point, which is why there's that big 260 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: gap between when they give away the dirt and then 261 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: when the Klondike Company is dissolved and none of those 262 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: individual one inch plots were ever officially registered, so those 263 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: serial box deed holders were never really recognized as having 264 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: property in the eyes of the Canadian government. The land 265 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: that was once owned by Quakers Clondike Holding Company has 266 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: since been used for the Dawsons to a golf course. 267 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: So what's interesting is that, uh, these Klondike deeds continue 268 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: to sort of rear their heads. Uh. The land Title 269 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: office in white Horse, Yukon continues to get a handful 270 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: of inquiries each year from people who have held onto 271 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: their deeds or they found them in you know, a 272 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: family uh box. And there was an article in the 273 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Montreal Gazette in nine six that characterized these inquiries as 274 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: pretty much come being grouped into one of these four 275 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: major types. There are general inquiries wondering if the land 276 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: has any value, tax queries from people worried that they're 277 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: not up to date on any taxes owned on their 278 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: square and land parcels, lawyers who find deeds from the 279 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Klondike Bigage Land Company in the papers of the deceased 280 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and are trying to settle estates, and hopeful types who 281 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: are wanting to know if they can rent the land 282 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: for income. Yeah, it's interesting, and I wonder how this 283 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: whole thing would play out if they attempted it today, 284 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: where it's like you have land, the one inch piece 285 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: of land. No you don't, not really. I think it 286 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: would maybe meet with some some bigger resistance. But um, 287 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: there have also been these various wacky efforts made around 288 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: these teeny parcels. At one point there were a couple 289 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: of men who had a combined four square inches of 290 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: land uh, and they attempted to declare it as free 291 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: and independent land under the name the Republic of Zandido, 292 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: which did not really play out. Another person sent Quaker 293 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: string and toothpicks so they could build a fence around 294 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: his property. Uh. One man had three of these deeds 295 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: and so he had a three it's three square inch 296 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: land parcel and it was really his intention that it 297 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: should be donated and used as a national park. According 298 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: to Verne Thomas, a representative from a Quakers legal department, 299 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen seventies, one man collected deeds from 300 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: all over, eventually amassing ten thousand eighty of them, and 301 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: this added up to about seventy five square feet. He 302 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: then tried to have the square inches consolidated so he 303 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: could take possession of his tract of land, and he 304 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: requested that his parcel be carved out near the water. 305 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: But these were all of these various requests of what 306 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: to do. We're pretty much met with a form letter 307 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: that said, hey, that was a promotion. You're really paying 308 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: for the excitement. Uh. And in ninety one Thomas, who 309 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: we mentioned just a moment ago, told a reporter quote, 310 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: the deeds are worthless. They have never been of any 311 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: value except as a promotional gimmick by our merchandizing people. 312 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: They really made a very clear pr going forward that 313 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: they were really selling the romance and the excitement of 314 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: this concept, not the actual land. While the official statements 315 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: made by Quaker indicate that the deeds were never meant 316 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: to have any intrinsic value and we're really meant to 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: just be a fun promotion. If you do still have 318 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: an original certificate, it does have some value because the 319 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: Stalgia dealers and eBay purchasers will take them off your hands. 320 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: And the last several years the certificates have gone for 321 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: anywhere from ten dollars to forty dollars on the secondary market, 322 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: and in the early two thousands a man named David 323 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: McDonald who had collected several of the deeds on the 324 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: many plots as a child, and he held onto them 325 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: into adulthood, and a lot of people did. There were 326 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: people that really squirreled these away, uh, you know, in 327 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: their safe papers, thinking that they were going to pay 328 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: off one day. Uh. But David McDonald set out to 329 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: make a documentary about the Klondike Land and the Quaker 330 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: Company's ad campaign after he had inquired with the Canadian 331 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: government about the whole thing and got the same form 332 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: letter as everyone else. When McDonald started researching his film, 333 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: he discovered that many kids just like him had grown 334 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: up hanging onto their deeds in the hopes that one 335 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: day they would make some money off of them. And 336 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: those adult kids or sometimes their families. In the cases 337 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: where the original deed holders have died, we're told by 338 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Quaker that they had no actual Yukon property. Yeah. I 339 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: tried to hunt down a chance to see McDonald's film, 340 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: which is called Serial Thriller, but I did not manage 341 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: to um to get to see it, which is a 342 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: big foodie on my part. Because it sounded so fun. 343 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: I just love this idea that there were there was 344 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: such an odd little giveaway, like here's some land for you, 345 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: but not really. Uh. You'll often hear it or see 346 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: it written up in the various articles that have come 347 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: up through the years, because periodically they will sort of 348 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: rise to the top. Someone will make an inquiry and 349 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: get re irritated and say I was promised land, but 350 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: they'll get the form letter this is not really I 351 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: think Quaker wishes this had never happened, like it was 352 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: very good for sales uh at the time, but it 353 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: really has been kind of an ongoing paint and it 354 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: took us for them. They fought. Like I said, they 355 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: continue to get mail every year from people thinking that 356 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: it's time to cash in on their land. It reminds 357 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: me of I think it was a soft drink promotion 358 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: within the last decade or so in which people were 359 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna send in bottle tops, and you know, the more 360 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: bottle tops they could get bigger prizes. And as a 361 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: joke in the ad, there was one that was a 362 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: like a fighter jet or something and that cost fourteen 363 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: million bottle tops or something, and people actually took it 364 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: seriously and tried to get that many bottle tops to 365 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: get their fighter get. Yeah, that's crazy if it's the 366 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: promotion I'm thinking of. I think they capped the number 367 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: of bottle top like you had to digitally enter it, 368 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and they capped the number you can enter each week, 369 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: so that you could really never get to the magical 370 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: number to cash in. Uh. But yeah, it's It's one 371 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: of those things people love a free giveaway. I love 372 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: freebees as much as anybody I send away for all 373 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: the crazy stuff because it cracks me up when it 374 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: comes in the mail. But it's one of those things 375 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: where you cut Most people kind of go into it 376 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: knowing this isn't really worth wild stuff, like it has 377 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: no actual value, it's just fun. Or like if you 378 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: if you adopt a wild animal at a wild animals 379 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't belong to you, you don't get to go 380 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: pet that animal. It will bite your faith. We don't 381 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: want that. I'm just I'd laugh so hard with people 382 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: thinking about their one inch of land and what they're 383 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna do with it. I actually kind of like the 384 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: guy who tried to make the seventy five ft of 385 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: the land be a real thing, because you could build 386 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: a tiny house on that be pretty happy out in 387 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. Yeah, there was allegedly. I didn't 388 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: research it deeply. I saw it in my research and 389 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: didn't look terribly hard at it. There was allegedly a 390 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: game show at one point that had people try to 391 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: find the square inches, like a specific square inch of 392 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: one of these deeds. Like it's like the challenge of 393 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: the game show, Like this wasn't the regular thing. It 394 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: was a random challenge as part of their regular series 395 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: of challenges. But uh, they had laid out the parcel 396 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: of land where basically they just did like a simple 397 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: numbering scheme where they started at like the top left 398 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: corner of the land if you were looking at it 399 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: on a map, and went, you know, one through however 400 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: far it could go by inches, and then started a 401 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: second row and just kind of went chronologically. So theoretically 402 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: people that went looking for their particular inch, because each 403 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: inch was numbered on these certificates, could theoretically find it. 404 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: But to the best of anyone's knowledge, no one ever 405 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: actually did that, Like, no one ever pinpointed their one 406 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: square inch of land. It makes me almost want to 407 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: go looking for one of the the certificates just for 408 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: my own collection of weird things because it's so funny. 409 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: But you can't see images of the certificates online. Uh, 410 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: And we will link to some of those in the 411 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: show notes. And also one of the things I wanted 412 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: to mention that will be in the show notes is 413 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: um Um the commercial for Quaker where they talk about 414 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: the cereal being shot out of guns. Because it's quite 415 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: wacky cartoon featuring a cannon and some kind of revolutionary 416 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: style costuming, and it's worth a look. But now we're 417 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: going to move on to listener a Hill and this 418 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: comes to us. It is about our Suliman the Magnificent episode, 419 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: and it comes to us from a listener named Suleiman 420 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: and he says, greetings ladies. Finally an episode drives something 421 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: to add. I have so many connections to your last 422 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: episode on Suleiman the Magnificent. First among them, my name 423 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: is also Suliman. I was named partially after this Sultan. 424 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: It's strange to hear my name spoken so often, not 425 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: about me, as I almost never run into anyone with 426 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: that name. I also was fortunate enough to visit Istanbul 427 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: when I was a boy, and later would live in 428 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Vienna for five months in college for a study abroad. 429 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: You briefly mentioned that Suliman's architect made two mosques in Istanbul. 430 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: I was able to visit both and have some interesting 431 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: facts about the Sulimani mosque. It is a very large 432 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: mosque which has six minarets or towers for calling to prayer. 433 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: This number is very high and strange. Our tour guide 434 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: told us that this was because Suliman had actually asked 435 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: his architect to make gold minarets. At the time, however, 436 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: the words for gold and for six were either the 437 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: same or very similar, and Sulimans are architect knowing that 438 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: someday the city might be sacked and gold towers would 439 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: be destroyed for the value, decided to make six instead. 440 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: From what I remember, mid Mar Snon had a host 441 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: of other architectural innovations and works that would make him 442 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: a great podcast topic. I love the show and really 443 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: enjoy the way YouTube present material. I would love a 444 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: podcast on the history of cookbooks. Julia Child, one of 445 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: my heroes, has a small video on this which I 446 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: find hilarious. I also love Julia Child, and as a 447 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: random factoid there, I think it no longer exists. There 448 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: used to be a video game online, an MMO, in 449 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: which you could hear my voice in one of the 450 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: way background characters, where you would concoct things for your costumes, 451 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: doing a very bad Julia Child impersonation, because I love 452 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: Julia Child and I used to watch her episode with 453 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: the Chicken Sisters over and over. But that is so cool, 454 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: suliman one, that you have a connection to our episode 455 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: by name and to you. I certainly would never have 456 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: known the gold and six combo of you know, sort 457 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: of language juggling on the part of the architect, which 458 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: is so fun. So if you would like to write 459 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: to us with any such fascinating facts or to talk 460 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: about Julia Child, which I will happily do at anytime, 461 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: you can write to us at History Podcast at how 462 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: stuffworks dot com. 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