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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, just before COVID hit,

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Speaker 1: I took my twins to New Orleans where were there

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Speaker 1: for crime con. We had the best time. We flew

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Speaker 1: in and we ate our way out. Okay, we ate everything.

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Speaker 1: We saw everything, We did everything. We listened to the music,

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Speaker 1: we looked at the people, we went in the shots,

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Speaker 1: the big easy right. Not for Jessica Easterly. This beautiful woman,

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Speaker 1: beautiful on the inside and out, is dead and I

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Speaker 1: want answers Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Serious Exam one eleven with

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Speaker 1: me an all star Palelm. But first I want to

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Speaker 1: introduce to you someone that cannot speak for herself today,

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Speaker 1: Jessica Easterly. Who is she? Take a listen to our

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Speaker 1: friend Tyler Hunt at crime online dot com. The thing

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Speaker 1: about siblings is that usually you get along or you don't.

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Speaker 1: Jessica Easterly Durning and her sister, Audrey Gutierrez got along.

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Speaker 1: The pair grew up in Mississippi, but now as adults,

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Speaker 1: live in different states, so they spent hours on the

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Speaker 1: phone or sharing long encouraging messages on Facebook. But it

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Speaker 1: was those phone calls that raised an alarm. Those phone

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Speaker 1: calls raised an alarm, you know. And I look at Jessica,

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Speaker 1: she just looks like everybody's best friend, the best sister

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Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. I do not want her death

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Speaker 1: to be lost in the sauce, lost in the shuffle

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Speaker 1: this file to that department, to this department, to that department,

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Speaker 1: and never any answers. Oh no, that is not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: With me an all star panel to make sense of it.

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Speaker 1: Crimeline dot com investigative reporter. You know her well, Lee Egan,

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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My

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Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, Death Investigator and start of a brand

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Speaker 1: new hit on the True crime network, Poisonous Liaisons. Joseph

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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan. He's been on literally thousands of death scenes.

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Speaker 1: Renowned psychoanalyst, joining us from Beverly Hills Featured and Netflix

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Speaker 1: as brand new hit Bleeding Empire. You can find her

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Speaker 1: at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Renowned a turn a

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Speaker 1: trial veteran, former prosecutor turned defense attorney. Daryl Cohen the

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Speaker 1: name of his law firm is Cohen, Cooper, Estep and Alan.

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Speaker 1: He's joining us today, but special guests joining us. Audrey Schmidt,

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Speaker 1: Jessica's sister. She is leading the battle at the forefront.

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Speaker 1: You can find all her information at Justice for Jessica

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Speaker 1: dot org. Also with me Jessica's best friend, Maria Creole.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've studied a lot about Jessica, Maria a lot, Audrey.

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Speaker 1: I know, she was a voracious reader. She would read

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Speaker 1: Am I right about at least that much, Audrey, Yes,

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Speaker 1: ma'am you are and know. And the pictures of her,

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Speaker 1: it's like happiness. My grandmother just used to say when

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Speaker 1: She's just so alive. What about it? Yes, yes, she was,

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Speaker 1: she was very happy, super happy. That's why I don't

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Speaker 1: Leasa count. It was Jessica's husband, justin Darning, asking if

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Speaker 1: his wife was with her best friend. Creel tells NBC's

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Speaker 1: day Line that she knew then that something terrible had happened.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Maria Creole, you state that that's when

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Speaker 1: What happened? Yes, ma'am, I was. I was very alarmed,

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Speaker 1: hold of crime stories with Nancy Grace. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what a photo of Jessica's phuton and headboard

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Speaker 1: have to do with this, Audrey with me, Audrey Smidt Schmidt,

427
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: this is Jessica's sister. Also with me, her very best friend,

428
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Speaker 1: Maria Krill. Why did you send us a photo of

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00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: Jessica's phuton and headboard because he was seeing throwing that

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Speaker 1: out after the cops that went to his house to

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Speaker 1: question him, and a couple hours later he threw that

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Speaker 1: out and they came by and took forensics of it.

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00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: And that was back in October of twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 1: we're still waiting on results for that. What if anything,

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Speaker 1: did you observe about the futon and headboard anything at all?

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00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: It was shocking to see it looks like blood is

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00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: on there. I don't know. I'm not an expert, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, why would you get rid of your phuton

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Speaker 1: that was in the bedroom and yeah, headboard, Darryl Cohen,

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Speaker 1: you're the defense lawyer, why would you? And let me

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Speaker 1: just point out that the husband has not been named

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00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: a POY president of interest. He has not been named

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00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: a suspect at all. And let me cars something up

444
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: before Daryl speaks. Maria Krill, when was it the husband

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Speaker 1: throws out the headboard. It was just this past October,

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00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: so a good fourteen months after she had gone missing.

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm very curious about that. Go ahead, Daryl, Nancy. That

448
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. If he had thrown it out immediately,

449
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: then it bothers me because it tells me there's forensic

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00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: evidence on that headboard. But I keep coming back to

451
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: is no one leaves on their own without their cell phone.

452
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Their idea. They may leave, they may leave their car keys,

453
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: but their cell phone is attached at the hip, at

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Speaker 1: the hand, at the ear. I still have a problem

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Speaker 1: with throwing out the futon. And was it Maria or

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Speaker 1: Audrey that said there was a substance on the futon

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Speaker 1: and it was tested at the crime lab. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for all I know it came back as ketchup. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It hasn't came back yet. We hadn't gotten

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Speaker 1: results on that yet. And when was it? When did

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00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: they said it into the crime lab? How long has

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00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 1: it been? October twenty two? But we always know it

463
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: takes over a year for anything to come back from

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Speaker 1: any crime lab. That's ridiculous. On a good day, that's

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00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: absolutely a resert. What about it? You just got Morgan,

466
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: you're working at the crime lab and with forensics every day. Yeah,

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00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: first off, it's it's nothing to test. Let's just take

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00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: the futon, for instance, this soft malleable fabric. You're just

469
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: going to test it for fluids and specifically we're gonna

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00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: be looking for blood or what we think might be blood,

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00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: and either you're going to get a positive or negative result.

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00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about typing, Nancy. I'm just gonna say, look,

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Speaker 1: we've got the presence of blood here. Now how do

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Speaker 1: we explain that? I don't know, But just not to

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Speaker 1: simply have a response. And let me tell you one

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Speaker 1: more thing that's very troubling to me as a death investigator.

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00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: It's this headboard. I can't tell you how many cases

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00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: I've worked over the years where the headboard has become

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00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: involved in blood staining. Because when you think about head trauma,

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00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: there could be cast off, there could be actual radiating

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00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: spray that comes onto a headboard. So you want to

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00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: put as much distance between yourself and that headboard as

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Speaker 1: possible and get it out of this environment contextually. Because

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00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: if we go back in and reconstruct this crime scene

485
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: and it's the headboard, we think the head is adjacent

486
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: to that, and we see blood on there, you're damn right,

487
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at this thing and trying to

488
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: figure out the dynamics of what actually happened. You know,

489
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: when I was you know, I was floored again. You know,

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00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: I covered this initially, but I was floored again when

491
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: I heard it was I was reminded of this fracture

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00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: that she had of the jaw. People talk about getting

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00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: their jaw fractured periodically. You'll sit in the news and whatnot.

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00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Nancy and the jaw itself demandable,

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00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: is a very robust bone. It is difficult to fracture.

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Speaker 1: You see boxers that sustain tremendous impacts, they don't get

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Speaker 1: their jaws fractured. It takes specific trauma, It takes directed

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00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: trauma to fracture that bone. It's created that way in

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00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: the body. Again, let me say the husband, his name

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00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Justin Joseph Darning Junior, has not He has not been

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00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: named a suspect or a person of interest in this case.

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Maria Krill, the best

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Speaker 1: friend of Jessica Easterly Darning. You also got a text

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Speaker 1: from her something about I don't know what's going to

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00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: happen when I go home. Yes, ma'am, that's correct. She

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00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: was um on Monday afternoon. Um she was at a

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00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: doctor's appointment with her stepdaughter, and UM. She she had

508
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: called me earlier and UM we had we had made

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00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: some tentative for the following day and I I was

510
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: messaging her about those plans and she called me because

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00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: while while she was away from the home and using

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00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: her cell phone to contact me through Messenger, her Messenger

513
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: account was also available there at the house via her

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00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: tablet or their or their laptop. So she didn't want

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Speaker 1: anything to be in writing that could be read from

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Speaker 1: the house while she was away, because you know what,

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00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I would just I couldn't care less he reads my

518
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: phone or my iPad, the twins read it, my husband

519
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: if he wants to. Anybody can read it. I don't care.

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00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: So why did she not want anyone to read what

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00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: she was writing? You, Nancy? The plans that we had

522
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: discussed for the morning of the thirteenth were for me

523
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: to drive to New Orleans and pick her up for um,

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00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: for her to come and stay with me in Alabama.

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00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: And um if she were a visit for a vacation, No, ma'am,

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00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: she was. She was she was hoping and planning to

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: leave the relationship. Why, Um, well there was there was,

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00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: um a fair amount of chaos and I would even

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00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: dare say abuse in the relationship, and um a whole

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00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: lot of control going on. And um, she was just

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Speaker 1: not happy anymore. And she was also very afraid of

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00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: moving on. Um she felt like that would not be

533
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: met well, UM, certainly not with enthusiasm. And she was

534
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: afraid that she would be in danger in attempting to

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: move on with her life and leave the relationship back

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00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: to Audrey Schmidt. This is Jeff because sister has a

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00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: husband already started dating again, I believe. So we have

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00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: heard that he has What about it, Maria? Um, yes,

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00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: we we've I mean, you know, I hate, I hate

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00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: to call anything a fact when you've heard it secondhand,

541
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: But we have. We have been told that he has

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00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: been seen with other individuals since she passed. How soon

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00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: did he wait before he started dating? Um? We were

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00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: made We were made aware of another relationship as soon

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00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: as January of twenty twenty, if I'm remembering correctly. We

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00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: were not sure who it was with, but apparently there

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00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: was a young lady being seen in and out of

548
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: their How about four months? About one? Four months? Altiga Terres,

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00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: What can you tell me about photos of Jessica that

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00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: her husband, Justin Darning Junior released well after my sister

551
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: went missing. Um, before we had found her. He was

552
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: releasing videos and pictures of her, you know, naked pictures

553
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: and saying that if you donate, then I will send

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00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: you clothes, shoes, underwear, lingerie of hers. Okay, I really

555
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: can't even respond to that right now. I'm just so

556
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: taken aback of course, Just Darning Junior Jessica East, Julie

557
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Durning's husband is not a person of interest. He is

558
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: not a suspect. Why in the world, but he released

559
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: naked photos and videos of his now deceased wife, Jessica.

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00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it, Maria Creel Nancy. We were pretty

561
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: horrified just at the level of disrespect. But it goes

562
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: further than actually just releasing the photos and videos. He

563
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: actually went so far as as to pretend that he

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00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: was her, communicating with individuals on the internet and soliciting,

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00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, compensation for the videos, as if he were her,

566
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: when in fact she was. She was just down the road,

567
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: lying in the sun, dead, decomposing. I mean, you know,

568
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: you've got this guy, justin Derning Junior, Jessica's husband, and

569
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: he's offering to give away her clothing and her I

570
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: guess what would you say, her clothing, her pajamas, her underwear.

571
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: What's he giving? What's he offering to sell or give away? Audrey,

572
00:39:52,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: He was wanting for donations to help bury her clothes, shoes, lingerie.

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00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: You may underwear, underwear and bras, okay, But at the

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00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: same time, Maria Krill, you're telling me he was I guess,

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Speaker 1: disseminating videos of her, photos of her naked, as if

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00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: she were still alive before he revealed to before he

577
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: revealed to their followers, I guess you would say that

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00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: she was no longer with us. He was still carrying

579
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: on as if she was alive and well and active

580
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: on adult sites and selling videos and photos of her,

581
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: or at least attempting to people as if nothing was wrong. Guys,

582
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: the disappearance and then discovery of Jessica Easterly Darning has

583
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: devastated her family. And again, I don't care what the

584
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: woman did for a living. We're not here to judge

585
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: her morally. We're here to solve a crime. Help solve

586
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: a crime. And in that vein, is it true? Audrey

587
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Couterrez and sister Maria Krill best friend you guys have

588
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: gone online at change dot org and raised over sixty

589
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 1: eight thousand signatures to get the case another look, Yes, ma'am.

590
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: Whose idea was that it's brilliant? That would be mine?

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00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: Is that? Audreya, Maria Audrey Audrey, Well, I gotta tell

592
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 1: you something. It's brilliant. It's a it's a sorry day,

593
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I might add, when you have to get out there

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: and beat the streets and get people to sign a

595
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: petition and change dot org to get the district attorney

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00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: to pay any attention. But the good news is this

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00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: district attorney, Jason Williams has reached out and spoken to you,

598
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: has he not, Audrey, Yes, ma'am, he has, and he

599
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: is investigating it. So what can you tell me about

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: what the district Attorney Jason Williams has said? Audrey and

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00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: Maria H. Nancy, We actually we've we've had a very

602
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: productive conversation with him, and we're very optimistic. We don't

603
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: want to get too far into the details because at

604
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: this point we're trying to show some faith in the

605
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: level of interest that we've been thrown. And it was

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00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: it was somebody on your program, Nancy, when we when

607
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: we first started this conversation that recommended we reach out

608
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: to him, and we really appreciate that guidance. Well, it

609
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: was our friend Joe Scott Morgan death investigator that actually

610
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: said that, and he and I talked about it a

611
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: great deal off the air, and I'm glad to hear

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00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: that the district attorney who says he is the quote

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00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: people's da is re examining the case, so now let's

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00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: see if he puts his money where his mouth is.

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00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: If you have information, please call crime Stoppers at eight

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Speaker 1: seven seven nine zero three seven eight sixty seven. There's

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Speaker 1: also the New Orleans Police Department, Third District five zero

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Speaker 1: four six five eight six zero three zero. Let me

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Speaker 1: give you Crimestoppers again eight seven seven nine zero three

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00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: seven eight sixty seven, or go on Twitter at Justice

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Speaker 1: for the Number four jess jess Underscore, or Justice for

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00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: Jessica Easterly on Facebook and again at crime online dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Our crack reporter Lee Egan has reached out to the husband,

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00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Justin Derning Junior. Still no response, but oh how I

625
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: would love to talk to him, but I want to

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00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: be clear. He's not a suspect, he's not a person

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00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: of interest. I still want to talk to him. We

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Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds, so Jessica Easterly may finally rest

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Speaker 1: in peace. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,