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And when you head to curetor dot com, 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: that cur at eur dot com, you'll receive an exclusive offer. 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: in Heels. This show is all about celebrating the most 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: extraordinary superwoman who will be sharing their incredible journeys to 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: the top, all while staying former. 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: We're back this week with part two of my Innerview 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: You with Molly Sims. 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: As you've heard in part one, Mollie is truly a 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: force and has accomplished a lot in her career. She's 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: been working on some incredible new projects that we get into. So, 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: without further ado, Miss Molly Sims, how did you meet 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: so she calls her husband by his last name. I 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: just want everyone to know Elizabe that don't know, and 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: it's still weird for me. So I actually still call 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: him Scott, but Mollie refers to her husband as stuber So, 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: which is very like, it's very high school, it's very college. 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: It's very like he's the football player, which I think 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: he actually was, right. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: I kind of you know, listen, I grated. I dated 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: great people. I had a really you know, long relationship 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: with someone that I thought I was getting it married too, 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: which is when I'm made and when you met me, 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: and he's amazing, but ultimately it didn't work out. 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: But I was really cross and so. 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. We just kind of. 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Really the life out of me for a long time, 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: and I ended up dating people I shouldn't. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: Have dated, as we all do. As we all do. 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: I finally got out of the codependent relationships and I 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: started dating. 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: And I hate to say this, but like I never 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 4: really dated. 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: I always had. 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: Long term monogamous whatever you want to call it, relate. 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 3: I could be in Paris, I can amulre, like I decided. 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: I broke off a really long, terrible relationship after that, 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 3: and I forced myself actually with the therapy. 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, can you hold me accountable. 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: So I cannot repeat my patterns and try to pick 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: a dead bird off the side of the road and 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: change them, because you know, when you're like a Gemini 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: like me, you're like, oh, but I'm so light and 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: you're so dark, and the lightness can ring me. 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: It's like I'm in Star Wars. Have to face people. 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Nope, can't face people. Cannot cannot And so I actually 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: met him. 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: He was in a really significant relationship and he was 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: coming out of it. 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: And I met him. 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: At the beginning of the year, and all I knew him, 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: I knew I thought he was dating Mary parents with 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: whose gry parents, like his book producing partner. But you 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: know when you're young and you're like, he's living with 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: a girl like I don't know, he married the shit, 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: probably one of the producers out there. But and then 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: I met him, and my agents were like, oh, Scott Stupor, 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: he's got his he's just send a breakup and safe 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: out and like all these different. 68 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: Things, and I was like, oh, okay. 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: So I met him and then we kind of, you know, 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: we started talking about other things. And after that meeting, 71 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: which it's funny, someone saw us at the Chateau Marmont, 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: which at the time was a really cool place. And 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: I didn't really do dinners or drinks, but I did 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: like an early dinner and and someone saw him having 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: dinner with me or like a drinks with me. And anyway, 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: he texted me after he got my name and he 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: got my number from my agents, and uh, and he 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: was like, I had a really good time. You know, 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: if you ever, you know, want to go grab a 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: COSI or go to which aka is hitting on me? 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: And so I was like, oh my god, thank you, 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: but I'm I just can't get involved with. 83 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: You right now. 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: You just got out of something and I'm an absolute 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: mass and so I literally needed other people. 86 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: I went on dates. I really like this one guy. 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: He broke up with me, and then I dated this 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: other actor who I thought I loved and he broke 89 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: up with me. 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: And then it was so fun. 91 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: They all come back, trust me, I all come back, 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: and so and I always thought I would go back 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: to the first one, like very deep down. 94 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: And then one day. 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: He didn't call me. 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: In August, he lost his phone. 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 2: He was shooting in Ireland and something happened. 98 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: I was like, well, that's weird. He hasn't called because 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: of course every girl likes to chase. And so something 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: had happened. And I was dating this guy and he 101 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: was being a dick and he asked me on so 102 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: many times super then I was like, fine, fuck it, 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: let's just go for a drink or like go to 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: dinner or something. I'm like, nowhere, fancy know that no 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: one will know who we are, but where we are. 106 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: And know nothing like fabulous, right, And so that was 107 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: that was the beat. 108 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: That was December thirteen, fourteen years ago. And so I 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: went on that date and I was like, huh, so 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: my where do he take you? 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: Austin a low love it? 112 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god, no no, because he was in the valley, ye, 113 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: butting with you like it had Stewie how getting this 114 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: like a name? 115 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm like, oh my god, Jude. 116 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: And I wasn't. 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I love executives and I love you know, 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: people in the suit, but I wasn't. I wasn't used 119 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: to like someone having it all together well by the way, 120 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: and it's alarming. 121 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: You're like waiting for like the bomb to drop, Like 122 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: what do you mean you have your shit together? 123 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 124 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: You're tall and handsome? What's happening? Like you check every 125 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: freaking box. 126 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: And it was weird because he would constantly follow up, 127 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: I mean like and then I was kind of started 128 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: going back to the guy I was dating, and he 129 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: just kind of kept very consistent, very like, okay, well 130 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: let's do this. 131 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 4: I'm like, I mean okay, but I really wasn't used 132 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: to that. 133 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: I sure, I wasn't used to someone with a calendar 134 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: like I will say I'm used to Like, I'm like, wow, 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: you're very scheduled, goes what a fucking studio. I was like, okay, 136 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: well that's cool, Like you know, I'm like, I don't know. 137 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: I just wasn't. 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: But I mean it's funny though, because I think for us, 139 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: like powerful and successful as Scott is, I think that 140 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: the role, the way that your relationship works is just 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: so incredibly even, you know what I mean, Like, it's 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: so like you really support each other. 143 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: You're both clearly very hands on parents. 144 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you and I kind of we always talk 145 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: about we kind of the way that our life rolled 146 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: out is we did career. We still do career, but 147 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: like kids, were. We were on the late plan, right, 148 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: And I don't think it was planned. I think that's 149 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: just what happens, right, And and I think bifth of us. 150 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: Don't have that. 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Listen. 152 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 3: My one of my very best girlfriends, her name's Lauren 153 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: because yeah, yeah love, she's been my publicist ye for 154 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: about ten years. He's still in my bad like she 155 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: just had that when we were lying. She had that 156 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: somo right, like she had that ner and we always 157 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: you know, I had it a little bit. I was 158 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: never like, oh it's fine, I would rather say no, 159 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: but but you always want to do those things, whether 160 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: it's go to this or gone by that or be 161 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: a part of this. 162 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: But I think having that not checked off. 163 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: No, I mean sort of, it's not. 164 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Like you feel like you're missing out. That's what I 165 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: always had kids like later. I think being a later 166 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: parent makes the decision to parents so hard a bit easier. 167 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't have that fomo, you know. And I think, listen, 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're dead, It doesn't mean you don't 169 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: do things. You still live a very big life and 170 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: a very full life. But those choices is not that 171 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: hard to make the choices. Whereas you know but again, 172 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's no right recipe for this, right, 173 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: there's no exact path. And you know, climbing and heels 174 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: for me is really about sort of exposing sharing the 175 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: different paths and narratives of amazing women, because I mean, 176 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: you've had a long path. You've been working since you're 177 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: what twenty, right, I mean nineteen. 178 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: Well, I started working when I was forts, yeah, I 179 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: mean my parents. 180 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: My dream was to be a waitress at the dairy Queen. 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Mine was to be a hostess and open a restaurant 182 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: and live happily. 183 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: Ever after oh, I would slept books and have to 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: organize them in the warehouse, which by the way, was 185 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: nine hundred degrees. And then when I was in college, 186 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: I worked at Quickly. 187 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: Sorry. Actually, when I went, I thought I wanted to 188 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: be a lawyer, and girl. 189 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: I am I getting such sweet home Alabama vibes right now. 190 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: So I went to beca on the hill and my 191 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: parents were like, well, you're going to have to have 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: spinning money. And so I was a waitress at Quickly's 193 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: across from the American University, and I was terrible, and 194 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: I ended up becoming a hostess because I would always 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: forget the soup and salad. But I was pretty and 196 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: then I like to talk in the New York aliends you. 197 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: I got great tits. But then they changed me to 198 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: a hostess because I could never get. 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: The order right. 200 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: And yeah, but I was really I was. 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: I was really my favorite job, my favorite job, being 202 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: a hostess. 203 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wore that. 204 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: I you know what I loved about the fucking out 205 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: and that I was a white sir with THEE. 206 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: And you get to greet everybody. I love the people. 207 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: I loved meeting people. I loved greeting people. I loved 208 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: seating people. I loved the whole process. Yeah, but most 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: you know, so you you get married, it all happens 210 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: fair like, I want to say, fairly quickly, right, I 211 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: mean fairly quickly right like sort of, Yeah, I mean, 212 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: Brooks's eleven. 213 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: Brooks is going to turn eleven in a few weeks 214 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 3: and he's in fourth grade. So we celebrated his first 215 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: birthday in my fortieth I remember, and you know, listen, 216 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: I I remember. I did not want kids young. It's 217 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: not that I didn't love kids, I just I just 218 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't know my mom had any older. Maybe she 219 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: would talk about like not, you know, you're not getting pregnant. 220 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: So constantly that that was like drilled into my ear. 221 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: You're not getting Molly actively try not to get pregnant. 222 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: I mean honestly, but the thirty five I think she 223 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: was like, listen, are we sure? 224 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: Like this is gonna happen? 225 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: But I was playing pregnant on Vegas and something. 226 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Something happened and I ended up going to freeze. 227 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: I met this. 228 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: I met doctor Sangadier, really good friends of ours, and 229 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 3: I remember going to his office and I was like, listen, 230 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: I would like to freeze my eggs. I and I 231 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: remember him turning to his computer, which we laugh about this, 232 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: and he was like, okay, so I think we should 233 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: do embryos. We can find you a person. It's not 234 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: going to be hard to go. Listen, have you have 235 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: you looked at me? I don't think I have expired completely. 236 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: And I got just so unpset. I did not speak 237 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: to him for like two years, and he said I 238 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: was geriatric, right, You're geriatric. We're geriatrics, Like you're different. 239 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: I was like what anyway? 240 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: Just that that was definitely like a turning point where 241 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I've got to kind of like start 242 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: to figure it out. But you know, I had Brookes 243 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: and then I had scarlet in twenty fifteen, and then 244 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: I had gray in twenty and seventeen. 245 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: Oh I remember, I remember where I was when you 246 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: told me you were pregnant. 247 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: I asked if you were joke. Yeah, I was. I 248 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: was worried. I was, you know, thinking I was just 249 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: it was all a joke, but it wasn't. And when 250 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: he say about white and blonde, Scott was like, is 251 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: he mine? 252 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: Mine latinum? But at the latinum, I think he's actually 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: going to be a blondie. I don't know how in 254 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: the world the whitest hair of all hair. 255 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: And listen to wis becoming. 256 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 3: I think an older mother you would say at the time, 257 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: like I remember walking out of doctor Silverman's office. I'm like, 258 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: here's who you're never going to see because I've been 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: going to you now for eleven years and I've been 260 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: eleven years. 261 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: Gary Atrick. 262 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: It's not funny, I know, but I think listen with 263 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: ups and downs. 264 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: I ended up having a thyroid problem after Brooks yep, 265 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: meaning that like somehow my body kind of kicked into 266 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: hear that it was gonna not produce enough formal So 267 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: with the help of you know, great doctors, we figured 268 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: that out. I started having you know, fisti acne when 269 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: I was in my thirties, and then I really started 270 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: having hyper pigmentation and maladsma. 271 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: And you know which. 272 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: By the way, Mollie, you're a queen at makeup, because 273 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I've been next to you 274 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty thousand times in the last twenty years and I've 275 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: never seen a pimple or hyper pigmentation that you speak of. 276 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: Which I got really good with my mac pot concealer 277 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: that I would have. 278 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: I still have it, by the way. 279 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: I'm not actually might even have it in my bag. 280 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: But listen, I mean I think you know, when you're 281 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: the queen of no makeup makeup and all of a 282 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: sudden you got you know, and locked is and then 283 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: you know, years of sun all kind of hit it one. 284 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: You know, I did what everyone else does. 285 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: You go get a really strong peel, you go get 286 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: a great laser, you go on hydroqnon and. 287 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: You know it would leave me maybe not dirty and patty, 288 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: but it would leave me red. 289 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: Dry and irridated, and I would have to have serious downtime. 290 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: And then in twenty nineteen, two years after Stuart said 291 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: I had a little dirt on my faces, was a. 292 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: Little dirty, and I was like, I'm done. 293 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm freaking done, Like I can't, And so I stopped 294 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: Tiger conone, I stopped going and getting any type of laser. 295 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: I would still get botox or whatever. 296 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: But and I I started agree, not really not then 297 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: it was more about trying to figure out what I 298 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: could do. I was really on a roller coaster. I 299 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: was really feeling insecure and emotional, and you know, I 300 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: was just like, how is everything like goding blown off? 301 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: I started with one product that I still love. It's 302 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: it's pretty lethal and it's probably going to cause cancer, 303 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: but it was one relates strong products. 304 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: You can't use it when you're right big. 305 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: But I got off the hydro pronound that the rescription that. 306 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: I used another product, and then I used another product, 307 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: and then I would do this two times a week, 308 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: then one time a week, then four times a month, 309 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: and I ended up having like an arsenal of like 310 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: assisting products. 311 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: And this is only for like melasma, or is this 312 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: for like like sun? Is this like placause I want 313 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: women to understand what this is. 314 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: This is true when are you looking on it all 315 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: the mirror and you're like patsy or you've got like 316 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: posting inflammatory pimple, you've picked it. 317 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: It's a dread. 318 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: It's red, it's brown, it's. 319 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: You've got a little bit of chic unevenness, forehead, uneven, 320 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: your psychistic coloration. 321 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: It's color and it looks dull, right right, like patchy. 322 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: That is what Wise was really made for, to have 323 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: the brightening but not have the downtime. Right And I 324 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: I did everything so drastic, right, so most women made 325 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: more and did not mean better. Right again, like you, 326 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: we have tremendous access, which to all the products you know, 327 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: sometimes gets us in trouble. I mean the dermatologists that 328 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: we interviewed over the past year, the number one thing 329 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: that they're seeing in women is that they're fucking their 330 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: their barrier, their skin, meaning that you can't keep makeup on. 331 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: It's irritated, it's dry, and more importantly, it's red. It's 332 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: an overused of retinal retinee retinoid and overused the pydro quanona. 333 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: Because the moment you do anything really really really strong 334 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: and you walk out into the sun. It makes you 335 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: super hyper sensitive and all that will come back. 336 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: All this was such a bad And. 337 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: My neighbor during COVID, she would Right before COVID in 338 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, there's this great pleth in. 339 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: Surgeon named doctor Carmenougian. 340 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: And if you're on the west side of la or 341 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: you need a really good pluth and surgery to sell 342 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: your kids up, think he does chintz, he does, knees, 343 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: he does and he's also We've got our. 344 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: Kids sewn up so many times, so many times. 345 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: Or you could do Roddy if for more in the 346 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 3: North Beverly Hills area. But he's also just an overall 347 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: incredible plastic surgeon. And my neighbor in Annie Blange, she 348 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 3: was like, your skin looks really good. And I've started 349 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: getting compliments about three months in and I even and 350 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: on my own. 351 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: I noticed it. I noticed. I said it, you, Kim does. 352 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: Look a butters And then I did a little bit. 353 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: And so during COVID, I like would drop off boxes. 354 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, use this once a week, use this 355 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 3: three times a week. And again everyone was different, but 356 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: I tried to put the system with Then I narrowed 357 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 3: down to like ten for each one, like I physically 358 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: got the products, put it in the box and. 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: Delivered it course. 360 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: Of course. 361 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: And then in twenty twenty, right before the strike, I 362 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: was thinking about. 363 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Did I want what did I want to do? 364 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: And I always loved to be like beauty, and I 365 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: wanted to change my sight to have more beauty everywhere, 366 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: to not just have fashion or makeup or spinkcare, but 367 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: also travel and just the lifestyle of of what I 368 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: love and what we love, traveling. 369 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: You name it. 370 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: And I had started writing a third book about women 371 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: would always ask me for advice, and it was tentatively 372 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: titled Unstuck, meaning that how do you kind of get 373 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: where you want. 374 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: To be when you're stuck or if you want to 375 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: do something? 376 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: And I ended up, and I said, but I ended 377 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: up meeting my partner at the same time, and I 378 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: brought all the sin. 379 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, is there any whale? 380 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, why does everything that is really strong and 381 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 3: either dermatologists or just ugly, like really ugly and you 382 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: don't want to sit down on your counter or like 383 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: the millennials like they get all the beautiful products that 384 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: there's no efficacy whatsoever? 385 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: Right, right, well, by the way, you know, Jenny Mullen goes, wait, 386 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: I tried you know, a very prominent model's products, and 387 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: she's like, I tried them. She goes, of course they 388 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: look amazing on her, isn't she twenty five? It's like 389 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: a twenty five Any dewey product face made my skin 390 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: look better? 391 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: Right, So yes, point. 392 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: Out of you know, meeting them and thok us three 393 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: years we did befores and afters, and we came up with, 394 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: whether you want to call it her system or routine. 395 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: And that's what we're finding with in our Canean is 396 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: that I actually was only going to launch three products 397 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: really two. 398 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: One which is called the Problem Solver, which was which is. 399 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: So my mode to to hydroqnone, meaning that it's really strong, 400 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: it's really efficacious. 401 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: You could use it as an. 402 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: All over treatment to get really even skin, or you 403 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: can spot treat it for like I still have my 404 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: cystagaphne or just I don't even know sunspots like, and. 405 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 4: It's in a gold tube. 406 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: And this was my ode to solving a problem that 407 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: I had, And it was my ode to a clean 408 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: version of hydroqunone that actually worked, but that didn't. 409 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Give you any downtime. As you know, so many women. 410 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: Don't exfoliate, or so many women over exfoliate. And so 411 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: it started with this product, and then it started with 412 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: your favorite xpad. And we've got ninety six percent skin luminosity, 413 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: ninety percent skin texture, ninety percent visibly resextured skin. 414 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: And I explain it like this. 415 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: Everyone always compliments my hair color, meaning that they're like, 416 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: clown is, your hair. 417 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: Color looks really good. I'm like, I know, I have 418 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: a really good. 419 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: Hairdresser, Tracy hairsil is Tracy cutting hair or live on 420 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: like the team that does it. I go, But the 421 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: reason why my hair color looks good is because they 422 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: make me do a step before I go to get 423 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: my hair color it. They make me either use a 424 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: clarifying shampoo I clarifying crystal treatment for about fifteen minutes 425 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: and it gets all the yucky wanger bad or Joe 426 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: Lee has a great silter head now to clean the 427 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: water to get all that shit out of your hair. 428 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: It's the same with your. 429 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: Face if you don't exfoliate. 430 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: And that's what those pads are. 431 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: What we didn't want was, oh, you can use it 432 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: twice a week or you can only use it short 433 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: times a week or you can only so we made 434 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: seven days, seven pads consistency that you can use and 435 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: you can expoli it because what you don't I see 436 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: women when they don't get their makeup off. 437 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: I can see makeup on makeup. 438 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: And what you do is you really have to. 439 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: Exfoliate and to cleanse it, and you have to get 440 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: in there and kind of mess up the barrier, but 441 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 3: don't kill the barrier. And so there's incredible properties and 442 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: act is that there's ektu Win, which is a lord 443 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: did a really good article about this ingredient in the 444 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: pads and it's kind of like a secret service agent 445 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: where it's like you can exfoli it, but it helps 446 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: save the barrier right. 447 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Right, it's protecting it. It's exfoliating it, but it's protecting it. 448 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: It's like sealing it almost. 449 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: And with the line, so all of the. 450 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Things and you know, oh wait, Mollie, how scared are 451 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: you to do this? Because I remember being with you 452 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: just before the launch and this is you know, I 453 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: want to talk about this because you've done so many 454 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: different things in your life. 455 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: You've done so many different things in your career. 456 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I think like sitting here today, to me, this is, 457 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, such an organic, synergistic, logical step for you, 458 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: because the same way I eat, sleep and breathe fashion 459 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: is the same way you eat, sleep and breathe beauty. 460 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Because I feel like the one thing that I would 461 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: say if I didn't know you, right, if I didn't 462 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: know you and you were like walking down the street 463 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: and I was just being introduced to you, I would 464 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: the first thing that I would say is, she looks. 465 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: So like healthy. She looks so even even though you're exhausted. 466 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: But the point is, like, let's be real, I know 467 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: what's going on the inside, but the point is is 468 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: that like you have this very like strong, healthy, vibrant, 469 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: dewey fresh thing about you no matter what. 470 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: And every time I see you, it's like you walk 471 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: in and I. 472 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: Think, part because you're tall and obviously beautiful, but I 473 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: think you always have this like this glow. You always 474 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: have this glow, and I think to do products like 475 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: this first of all taking it to a very superficial level. 476 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: The packaging is so beautiful, so she it sits on 477 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: my vanity, it's gorgeous, So I think that's obviously really 478 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: important that great product does not look clinical right with. 479 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: Doesn't the clinical and awesome you think about it like 480 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: credit to see, which I didn't want to do. I'm like, 481 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: oh my god, there's so incredible and retinols on the market, 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: but they were what don't you like? 483 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: What don't you like about the vitamin c's on the market. 484 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, summer sticky, most peel under makeup months 485 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: smell either vitamin C or hot dog. 486 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and definitely they're. 487 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: Not efficationous, So that I think is why it's selling 488 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: so incredible. And like with the retinal like again, it's 489 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: you don't need to burn off your face. You're you're 490 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: you're you're making yours. When you're burning and you're drying, 491 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: that means you're drying, and that means you're making yourself. 492 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 4: Like course, so again, our retinol is hydrate. 493 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: It's but it does the job, you know, and it 494 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: does it over a time release, you know, a release 495 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: at night. 496 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, Molly, that goes back 497 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: to every single thing you do in your life is 498 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: a step toward the next thing. 499 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 4: Really, you know, for me, like. 500 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 2: The glow is not in the makeup. 501 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: The glow is in your it's in your soul, right, 502 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: like you know you can attest, But how scared are 503 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: your most about this? I was scared you were scared 504 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: because why though, because you're launching your own business. I 505 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: think product I had got the cast in the world, 506 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: and I had taken a big step on doing the 507 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: podcast because they originally, you know, in our world, they 508 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: want you to either do it on your own or 509 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: be with some actor or someone. I'm like, there's no 510 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: there's no there's no fun, there's no like, there's no laughter. Sure, 511 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: And so I said to dear Media, said, is there 512 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: any way you would chemistry test my best friend? 513 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: They're like, can we? She go was like, oh, she 514 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: lists in New Jersey, she has three kids. 515 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: She used to be English and they were like no. 516 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: I was like no, but just trust me. 517 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, do you want to know how I talk 518 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: about beauty and fashion and all things. I'm like, just honestly, 519 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: put us on the zoom, listen in, and you tell 520 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: me what you. 521 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 2: Sing and how you are. 522 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: They're gonna They're never gonna go for it. I was like, 523 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: tell me, I was sling imish. I'm like this be Hugh, 524 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: don't do anything else. We weren't fifteen minutes in and 525 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: they were done the tests, and they're like done because 526 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: we this is what we do. When you have guests along, 527 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: you're like, we're talking, We're having a good time. 528 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not gonna lie. I saw Rachel. 529 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: She was doing an incredible Covetour collab with Chryssell Len 530 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: and I was in the middle of starting the pre 531 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: press of it all and really and I think at 532 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: their three years starting a podcast clinicals exurbitance and not 533 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: of Leney flying out of your bank account. I have 534 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: to say I haven't internally YEP in a long time. 535 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: But doesn't it feel good? Though in a weird way, 536 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: like it's that panic. I know it's terrifying, but I 537 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: actually think I do come from the school if it 538 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: doesn't scare you, it's not worth doing, you know, I 539 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: do because I think it's I think life still has 540 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: to scare you, things like that. Business still has to 541 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: scare you a little bit. Or we get complacent in 542 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: what we do and I think this is such a 543 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: big move and it's so beautiful, and you work so 544 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: hard on it and you believe so much in it, 545 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: and it's proven right, so it's like. 546 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely, you know, I knew what it 547 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: had done for me. And I was telling Bethany Brangkle 548 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: like I felt like you, It's like one part of 549 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 3: my head was this, one part of my forehead was this, 550 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: like different strengths, Like I'm I'm here today at the Chemist. 551 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: The Chemist is like four doors down and I'm testing 552 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: your product. I'm testing formula fifty percent silver pearl. 553 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: Nope, Like it's You're a guinea pig, Molly Dry I 554 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: drive them. 555 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: Crazy, I like, and so, but I think because I 556 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: I do have so much writing on it, and you know, 557 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: I didn't whether you want to say this or not, 558 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: Like I didn't want to just put my name on 559 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: something or just be another celebrity. 560 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: Of course skincare. 561 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: I would have called it Molly's Sims if I wanted 562 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: it to be that. I'm actually the same consumer, customer 563 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: or in the community as the wise is, Like I 564 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: am that girl, Like I'm trying to solve a problem 565 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: for me just as I am for everyone else. It's 566 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: just yeah, I'm like having like a nervous breakdown pretty much. 567 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, And are you breathing now? Like I like, 568 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: how does it feel post launch? Right, like, are you 569 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: still an anxious mess? 570 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: Or are you? 571 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: Like I don't even know if I've said this out loud, 572 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: but in two days we hit what we were supposed 573 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: to in too much. 574 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: Hollie. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, but I will say, 575 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: but I'm with that plan break. I was like, oh, wow, 576 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: you know it's scary about. 577 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're about to be sold out of two products, 578 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: which we're kind of freaking out about. 579 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: But it's gonna I think we're gonna hit the. 580 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: Two week wind No, but listen, the response has been incredible. 581 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: I think I knew I had something from the before 582 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: and afters and from the clinical. 583 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: I knew I knew when. 584 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: So I didn't know how I never I don't know 585 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: how beauty companies work. I didn't know how testing work. 586 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: And so you have to send your products. You can't 587 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: have anything to do with what they do, what they say, 588 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: and they upload them onto site like Yappo or something 589 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: like that. 590 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, I was like, oh my god, and they can. 591 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: Say anything and they can be brutal. And so those 592 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: started coming in about twenty four. 593 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 4: Hours before launched. 594 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't think anybody I was, you know, 595 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: And then there responds I had one woman right that 596 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: I have a moisturizer called Extremely Rich, and as much 597 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: as I love like a really thick fond, doesn't really 598 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: love me because I still the whole line of non 599 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: commission because I still get acne. But it's really weightless 600 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: and velvety. It's got seramids in it. You can put 601 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: it on with makeup, without makeup. It's just like an 602 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: all day night moist roather. And she was like, I 603 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: was literally she was like, I love the fucking packaging 604 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: and she's like cursed in it. She was like, I 605 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: love the packaging, but this was in a zip bloc 606 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: bag that I could take with me and my purse 607 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: on a daily basis. 608 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: I would, so like, you know what, you got to 609 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: do trial sizes quick, You got to do many right. 610 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: We're trying to figure that out for holiday for but 611 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, listen, we everything was really thoughtful, Like I 612 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: love a phone cleanser, like my friend makes an incredible 613 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: phone cleanser from say So, but for me at Pham 614 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: cleanser was too stringent and too kind of and you 615 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: can't start stripping if you're dry right, so it's almost 616 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: like a double Clints. 617 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: We have a gel oil which leaves you super hydrated. 618 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: You can do Gasha, you can get in there, you 619 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: can do a massage and it gets it all out 620 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: and you feel like you've. 621 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Already done a skincare treatment because it leaves you super soft. Molly, 622 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: you're going to be a dermatologist by the end of this, by. 623 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: The way, but Helen, really, I'm really, I really, henan. 624 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: Going to be like a doctor because you have three kids. 625 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: You're going to be a dermatologist from doing this. 626 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: You're I mean, we deal with a lot in the family. 627 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: How do you feel, Malls, now about here's the thing, Like, 628 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: I think anyone obviously who follows you knows how hard 629 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: you work, how crazy you life is. But I also 630 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: just want to quickly touch on the fact that you are, 631 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: if ever, I have seen one you and another friend 632 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: of ours a sports mom of another proportion, like a monster, 633 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: like to a degree that I'm I'm not. I don't 634 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: know that in my life I knew existed. And I 635 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: don't think anyone realizes the fact that being a sports 636 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: mom is actually its own full time job because you 637 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: dedicate multiple nights a week and without fail, every weekend 638 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: to your kids and traveling all over the place. 639 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: This is not like around the corner. So I just 640 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: want to add on top. 641 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Of that that being all the things, the hands on mom, 642 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: the handsome wife, the hand like that is another job. 643 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: I think. 644 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: I think sports, you know, whether it's singular like what 645 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: my brother did, yes, really focusing. I mean he played 646 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: baseball and basketball and all the things, but when he 647 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: got into middle school he really loved and fell in 648 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: with golf. 649 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: But also the importance of being on a team sport, 650 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: whether you play for the school, whether you play for 651 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: your local reck, whether you do club or take it anyway. 652 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: These are lit of skilled right to be able to 653 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: work with seven other people, ten other teammates, to be 654 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: able to be a leader, to be able to come back. 655 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: When you're down. 656 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: It helped me even in developing my company, Like what 657 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: if the attitude you know, when you get something, you're 658 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: like I had this one for us. She was like, 659 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: really down a us and I'm like, we. 660 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: Made a mistake. Ookre is moving on? She's like you're not. 661 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not happy you got a movie. We 662 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: got to pick ourselves. It's like, you know, it's like 663 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: I talk, you know, not the drop thing, but I talk. 664 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: You know, if you ever watched Tom Brady play in 665 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: twenty years that he played, the number one thing about 666 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: Tom is when he's down, he can come back. Yeah, 667 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: and the mental strength and takes. And that's what I 668 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: show woroks, Like it doesn't matter that he's down twenty 669 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: seven to three. Yeah, like in the fourth quarter with 670 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: ten minutes to go, what does that come back? 671 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: What is it picking you up and bringing it back? 672 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: And I really think a for their bodies and development 673 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: to play different sports, but to really be on a team. 674 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: I think coaches are instrumental in use in developing them. 675 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: And I for better for work, by the way, so 676 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: better for worse. 677 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: Like I you know, all the coaches are like you know, 678 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm single sport, like you play one year around, like 679 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: you know in one year out together. 680 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: We're not doing that. 681 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: But so I do think and you love it. You 682 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: love it. I also have fun. 683 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: I mean it's like what are we going to do? 684 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: Go to dinner and hang out at Georgio ball And 685 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: like I don't. 686 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: Mean that in a bad way, No, No, I know 687 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: what you mean. I do know what you mean. What 688 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: did I really want to drive to Carl's Bad for. 689 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Two and a half hours, which you're probably doing. You're 690 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: doing it today, right, Yeah, of course. 691 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: I have to have seven gay as at one, two, three. 692 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: I have six games tomorrow, but six games tomorrow with 693 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: Jess Bruggs between your three kids. 694 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 3: No, she's playing. She played at eight, he played at 695 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: eight fifty. She played the nine forty. 696 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: He plays it. 697 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: They're doing a lacrosse tournament. 698 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: Not gone Clinton, grind Bray. He's going along for the 699 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 3: Wide Bally. Let me just tell you this. I would 700 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: say that you've had a long career. You've done a 701 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: lot of different things, You've pivoted. I would say it's 702 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: funny because I've known you through almost all of them. 703 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: You really are very tough, and I me and that 704 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: in a really good way. What I mean is you're 705 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: very resilient because you're very happy, you're very smiley or 706 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: all the things. You're very positive, but you're also tough. 707 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: You also, like, had a very serious back surgery this 708 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: year and was I would like to announce she was 709 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: trick or treating on her feet. Five days later, stubur 710 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: and I were like, she's stubor. You can't let her come. 711 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: She can't, she can't walk. She can stay at the house, 712 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: but she can't. And there you were, right next to me. 713 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: Then that came back down hall of me. Yeah, okay, 714 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: so there you go, and. 715 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: Doctor Rodney, now listen. I had a very hard year medically, Yeah, 716 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 3: which affects you emotionally, which something bad happening. And then 717 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: my back was the cherry on top. And I had 718 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 3: backed out of this surgery backed out. 719 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Literally, I had no. 720 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: Pun intended a year before because I had had such 721 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: a hard year and a bad summer. I felt like 722 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: I just had to do it. I just I had 723 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 3: I I didn't. I mean, for those of you who 724 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: don't know, I had an lf L five S one 725 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: disc replacement, and I was so bad. I'm a little 726 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: OCD and I would not pick up sing because I 727 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: physically could not been down. 728 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: I could not I could not exercise anymore. 729 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: I was in almost And we share the similar doctor 730 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: is doctor Baker, who's an incredible GP. 731 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: She looks at me and she goes, I just feel like. 732 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna get used to this pain. And when I 733 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: woke out of surgery. I was like, are you kidding me? 734 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: What have I done? Because I was in like the 735 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: worst most the most amount of pressure. 736 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 3: But I think I did it at the end of 737 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: October and in Janet. 738 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: No, I think it was in like March. There was 739 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: a day where I was like, I didn't think about 740 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: my back right. 741 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 4: It wasn't odd because you know, you're. 742 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: You're used to thinking about it all the time. 743 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 3: Well, and also it's like a phantom thing. I can 744 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 3: explain better than I can. It's like your nerves get 745 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: used to being in pain and show almost like even 746 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 3: though you're probably still not in and it's almost like 747 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: you still. 748 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 2: Feel it because the nerves have it. They have they 749 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: have memory and habit. 750 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: And see you said, he's like someone loses an arm, 751 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 3: they still feel like and he said that will ultimately, 752 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: you know, stop And I don't even want to like it. 753 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: I don't even want to say it out loud because 754 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: you don't say it. 755 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: But now you're doing pilates and you're exercising and like back. 756 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 4: To line, so and listen, you know, I'm lucky. 757 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 3: I'm lucky that I'm able to have surgery and have 758 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: incredible doctors and when something you know, when the ship 759 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 3: hits the fan, you know. 760 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: But of all these things, malls in your life now 761 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: because you have a lot you have, you have your 762 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: hands and a lot of things. What's what is your 763 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: greatest life challenge? And what keeps you awake? Like when 764 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: you go to sleep at night, what is the thing 765 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: that's keeping you awake? 766 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: If anything? 767 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: You're like, actually, I'm a beautiful sleeper. Oh no, don't cry, 768 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: and just really happy with my life. Oh my god, 769 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: because she's happy. I'm going to finish this and tell 770 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: me if I'm if I'm wrong, I'm just really. 771 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 2: She's really blessed and really happy. And she's just really 772 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: grateful and really blessed. And I you know, I worry 773 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: about them, and you were about your kids. 774 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: I do you know, it's like it's nor if it's 775 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: a normal mom made I think when you lose. 776 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 4: A mom, yeah, and you become a mom. 777 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 778 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 3: The dichotomye is so real and all the things they 779 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 3: just they're white and you grew up as. 780 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: And having that and I hope I am that with them. 781 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: You are. 782 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you are. You're already you're already winning. 783 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: You win so hard at mom life. And it's true. 784 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: Someone asked me the other day what I worry about, 785 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: and everybody thought I was going to say like a 786 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: thousand business things, and all I said is like, I 787 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: just worry about my kids and if they and if 788 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: they're good, I'm good. 789 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: Right. 790 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: If they're good, we're good, they're healthy, they're happy, we're good. 791 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 2: We can sort out the rest, right, right. 792 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I and I'm also you want to get 793 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: into like a good place of not thinking like the 794 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 3: the shoe is going to drop, right Like that's also. 795 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: Like course not a great you can't live like it's not. 796 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 3: A great headspace to exist from, right, So of course, 797 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 3: you know, I think COVID helped because we got to 798 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 3: say no without having full apologize. I learned the power 799 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: of no because I said no to this and I 800 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 3: got I said yes to something else with my family 801 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 3: or not, or just being able to say less. I 802 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 3: think it's been a really powerful thing for me to 803 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: not feel like I'm. 804 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: Southern, so I always feel bad about everything. And I 805 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 2: was interviewing this girl the. 806 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 3: Other day and she was like, you know, I'm just worried. 807 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just think you're overqualified. I think you're 808 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: a bad ass, Like I think I can get you 809 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: this give me a second. And she was like, but 810 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: you're not in charge of my happiness and I was like, oh, no, 811 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 3: I know that, but see I do. That's just who 812 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: I am. So once you know who you are, you 813 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: have to accept that. But I will worry about your 814 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: happiness if you were for me. And she kind of 815 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: like looked at me like weirdly, and she was like, yeah, 816 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 3: I'm used to the corporate world. 817 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm like not, We're a startup, so I'm actually gonna 818 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna worry about you. It's so interesting. She was younger, 819 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: I mean she was I think early. She was like 820 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: confused a little. I was like, I know, but I'm 821 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: just gonna be really honest with you. 822 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 3: I I think you're I don't even know if this, 823 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: but I'm like, I could probably get you a job, 824 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 3: like I just think you're overwollified, like she just so 825 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: she was like, well, why don't you let me make 826 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: that decision, And I'm sure that's what she was thinking. 827 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, I love you so much. 828 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: I cannot believe you have to go to Carlsbad today. 829 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: But I love you. You are my hero. 830 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: Listen, You're my hero in so many ways. I've known 831 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: you for almost my entire adult life at this point, 832 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: and in so many ways, you're exactly the same as 833 00:40:59,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: the day. 834 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: And you know, I'd be like, I'm not wearing that. 835 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: She'd be like, just put it on. 836 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: Molly used to come into my studio for a fitting, 837 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: and I'll leave you all in this note. 838 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: She's to come in to my studio. 839 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: And used to be like, First she would go, okay, which, 840 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to be here. I'm not big enough. 841 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: Just leave me with someone. Just leave me with an assistant. 842 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: Anyone could just show me a dress, Just tell me 843 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: what you want to wear. Right, And then I'd be like, 844 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying right here. Don't stay 845 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: And literally, in less than ten minutes, Mollie would leave 846 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: with three lucks. 847 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 4: Literally, and her fastest client. 848 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 2: She would come back to me. 849 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 4: She would come back to me. 850 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: I would still be that's why, her oldest client, but 851 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: her fastest client. 852 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: Yes, And literally, I would look at my team and 853 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: be like, if everyone could be like Mollie, we could 854 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: literally I could be like the Tracy Cunningham of stylists. 855 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: I could do thirty people, forty people good you. 856 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 3: Know, the one the one thing that you know, I 857 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: hope you know you had always said great girls and 858 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: they learned from you. They that's why you did feel 859 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 3: comfortable because you hired well, talk them well and then 860 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: you know, and I think that is set to skill 861 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: now again, leaving you with something else. 862 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 2: But you don't have to talk about them like it. 863 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: But that is your superpower because you I've never you know, 864 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 3: for fifteen plus years, you had some of the best 865 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: of the best girl you know working for you and 866 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 3: being creative. It's hard, yeah, but it was always so good, 867 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: and I have to say it was always so it's 868 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: so much fun blattering to be like, no, I'm going 869 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 3: to stay with you, even though there was like honestly, 870 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 3: like Bree Larson in the fucking Next Way, more like Inhappible, 871 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna. 872 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: Say, I'm like, I don't love that. The smartest idea 873 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: we'll make it quick. 874 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: Really still my favorite, always my favorite, always professional, always kind, 875 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: always pro. 876 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 877 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: You're just going to come on them, Yeah I am, hell, yeah, 878 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: yeah of course I am. 879 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: And wait and you guys, fought. Why is beauty? It's 880 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: y see you. 881 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: Guys get it, get wise beauty and it's why s E. 882 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: By the way, why s E? The packaging is beautiful. 883 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: The products are so good. They're so good and they 884 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: feel so good. They work and they're beautiful. You will 885 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: not want to stick them in your cabinet. You'll want 886 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: them to sit on your vanity. 887 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: But I'm like my freak out. 888 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 4: Yes, my breakout was hard, but that's normal. 889 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: The freakout's normal. You have to freak out. This is 890 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: another baby. This is another baby that you just had, honestly, 891 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 1: and you're gonna and you're gonna keep raising this one. 892 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: By the way, I know so I love me. I 893 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: love you. I will not see when Carl, but no, 894 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: you will not. 895 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: But you'll see me on Sunday. You'll see me Monday. 896 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: You'll see me Monday Tuesday. I know all the things 897 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: and all. 898 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 2: Summer, all summer. I love you, Love you, guys, have 899 00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: the best weekend, Love you, Wise, beauty, worry. Hi. 900 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, it's time for Ask Rachel, and this week 901 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: I'll start with the first question, which is what staples 902 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: should be in every man's closet. It's funny, I've actually 903 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: never been asked that question before, but I would say 904 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: definitely the classics, like a really good pair of dark washed, 905 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: polished jeans that they can dress up if need be, 906 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 1: a good pair of black or brown ankle boots or both. 907 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: I would say, some kind of version of a driving 908 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: loafer that you can wear with or without socks, dress up, 909 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: or wear casually. Obviously a pair of sneakers. And I 910 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: would say a blazer that you can wear a T 911 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: shirt or sweater under, or a button up and a 912 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: tie if need be. And of course a few suits 913 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: that are tailored and actually fit well, because I actually 914 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: find the biggest challenge for men, at least from where 915 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: I sit, is that they're clothes don't fit them properly 916 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: because they're too lazy to get them altered and they 917 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: just are ill fitting. So I think a really good black, brown, charcoal, 918 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: navy pinstripe, any of these versions of a blazer are 919 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: great for a guy, And of course a casual jacket 920 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 1: that they can throw on with a T shirt or 921 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: a sweater or polar shirt anytime. Yeah, I mean, I 922 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: think that should pretty much get a guy anywhere in life. 923 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: Don't forget to submit your questions for next week's episode. 924 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: All you have to do is dm us your questions 925 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: to at Climbing in Heels pod on Instagram and I 926 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: might just answer your question. Thank you again to my 927 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: beautiful friend Molly Sam's for being on Climbing in Haels 928 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: twice technically. 929 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 2: In addition to Mollie. 930 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: Being incredibly hard working and ambitious, she's also an amazing 931 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: friend that really shows up when I need her most. 932 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to watch her sore with this new 933 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: product line and all the other things she has coming up. 934 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: Truly my hero as a sports mom, as you may 935 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: have seen on her social media, but Mollie juggles a lot. 936 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: It's very impressive and she also has an incredibly huge heart, 937 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: as you learn in this podcast too. 938 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: If you want more on. 939 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: Climian Heels, follow me at Rachel Zoe and at Climing 940 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: Hills Pod on Instagram for more updates and upcoming guests, episodes, 941 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: and all things paritor I will do next week. 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